What really bothers me is that during Urahara's explanation as to how he's able to give the captains back their stolen bankai's he mentions that hollow reiatsu is pure poison to a Quincy as its the polar opposite of them. So it would stand to reason that using hollow powers would be the easiest way to defeat all the Quincy yet they never even try it once.
@olo703
3 ай бұрын
Hollow Reiatsu is not poisonous to Quincies in the way people make it out to be. Kirge received loads of Ichigo's attacks without any issue, and Ichigo makes the Vaizards look like Vice-Captains.
@themrmezbah
3 ай бұрын
@@olo703Quilge is stronger than the people that the vizards fought (minus Gerard) in tybw. He was their mentor. He was keeping up with Ichigo In his bankai. An Ichigo who would speed blitz all these opps.
@olo703
3 ай бұрын
@@themrmezbah Kirge was explicitly _NOT_ keeping up with Ichigo. He literally says those words. And this same Kirge implied that Uryu was stronger than him _before_ becoming a Sternritter.
@GrumbleThe1st
3 ай бұрын
They simply didn’t use their Hollow powers because of their pride. I believe this was stated in Klub outside. I could be wrong though. However due to them not fully developing their Hollowfication it is more taxing on them physically so it’s reasonable to assume that they simply didn’t want to risk getting attacked while in a vulnerable state like Zaraki after his fight with Gremmy.
@iwatchstuffs7933
3 ай бұрын
@@GrumbleThe1st No, its because they are forbidden to use any hollow power on Soul society as it will be easily detectable by other noble families
@Forsakianity
3 ай бұрын
Because Urahara went "First one to use their Vizard mask against a quincy is gay." offscreen.
@anibal5845
2 ай бұрын
This is canon
@levisergio2116
Ай бұрын
@@anibal5845 I can't agree more with both...
@blueflare3299
2 ай бұрын
People also forget that White was literally only acting in favor of Ichigo. We have no idea what the Hollows of the other Visored are like
@ftsvectors2164
2 ай бұрын
Well seeing as the Hollows are still from the Visoreds souls, they should also want to help them, but the Visoreds probably refuse to accept that part of themselves seeing as it was forced upon them by Aizen. And that’s caused a rift.
@kannan07
2 ай бұрын
@@ftsvectors2164 zangetsu is a part of ichigo's soul and is his zanpakto,he's not the white aizen created, the hollows in the visards aren't zanpaktos like zangetsu, but they themselves are hollows, it's not the same thing
@ftsvectors2164
2 ай бұрын
@@kannan07 I never said the Visoreds Hollows were their Zanpakutous did I? I said that Hollows were from the Visoreds soul. Kisuke explained it and it was shown that it’s like a two compartment drink. Smash the liner between and the drink mixes. And usually this destroys the drink, but the stopped it. The Hollow portion was just a different compartment of the soul. But the soul always housed that compartment. So in the end, the Hollows are just pieces of the Visoreds’ souls. This is no different than Zanpakutous. The Inner Hollows are not independent like Tailed Beasts. So for the Visoreds, their inner world is no different than Ichigo’s in having two spirits. It’s just that for Ichigo, one spirit represents his Inner Hollow and Zanpakutou and the other represents his Quincy. For the Visoreds, they have one to represent their Zanpakutou and one to represent their Hollow.
@stayfro5ty214
Ай бұрын
@@kannan07 actually white zangetsu is actually the hollow white, it was passed on from his mom
@kannan07
Ай бұрын
@@stayfro5ty214 no, white died with masaki, zangetsu can essentially be considered White's kid, white was fully a hollow and just a hollow, zangetsu isn't, and every one of masaki's descendents have a hollow in them
@LuvStarburst
3 ай бұрын
Kubo said he forgot about the masks in 1000 year blood war
@xelnagavoid8195
3 ай бұрын
Im press X for doubt on that one.
@ShinjiHirako13667
3 ай бұрын
He forgot the control xd
@Kay0Bot
3 ай бұрын
@xelnagavoid8195 very possible he is old
@DDJFilmss
3 ай бұрын
Makes sense
@janosd4nuke
3 ай бұрын
@@xelnagavoid8195 I'd wager he indeed said it. But more as a copout troll than a real answer.
@livonlord
3 ай бұрын
The way I see it, their masks are fundamentally different. With the Visored group, it's like borrowing power from a curse inflicted on them. For Ichigo it's more like using his innate abilities as a hybrid. With the Visoreds it takes a bigger toll and is harder to recover from. Unless they can end the fight quickly and are sure they won't get attacked afterwards (as they would expect to happen in a war), using the mask isn't worth it.
@ikuzo5847
2 ай бұрын
Yes this what I thought as well
@RaffiPrima23
3 ай бұрын
And in tybw arc Yamamoto forbid the vizard member that back to the gotei to use their hollowfication.
@Bell_Jingle
3 ай бұрын
I think alot of people forget that hollowfication is illegal in soul society, them developing masks and losing control is why they were kicked out in the first place
@DaGiantStud2576
3 ай бұрын
Maybe but even if that was the case by the 2nd invasion Old Man Yama is already dead meaning Shunsui could've changed that rule esp since they were in a war where anything goes. My guess is exactly what the narrator mentioned that Rose, Shinji and Kensei couldn't use Hollow bc it wouldn't do them any good esp.if they had to use Bankai, unless you have Ichigo's spirit energy you're basically fxcked and they have way more experience using their Hollows than Ichigo, plus we all saw how they did vs. Mask who was at captain level if anything using Hollow would've been a disadvantage!
@Sanci777
3 ай бұрын
@@DaGiantStud2576 exactly, in a war situation anything goes. Why would they hold back when most of seireitei is being destroyed and a lot of their mates are being killed.
@cameronmcmaster7563
3 ай бұрын
Except kensei literally had shuhei train for Bankai against mashiro hollowfied
@Richboyking
3 ай бұрын
@@cameronmcmaster7563 maybe because Yamamoto was not around anymore.
@kennethaizn1763
3 ай бұрын
Maybe one of the conditions for Shinji, Rose, and Kensei to return to captaincy is that they cannot hollowfy anymore.
@iwatchstuffs7933
3 ай бұрын
Yes they cant hollowfy inside Soul society grounds
@kennethaizn1763
3 ай бұрын
@@iwatchstuffs7933 yes, only the captains. Mashiro hollowfied during Hisagi’s training. The other visoreds hollowfied during their battle with Gerard.
@xegin1572
3 ай бұрын
@@iwatchstuffs7933 Pure speculation. Just the most popular theory to explain why they didn't use Hollowfication in TYBW, at some point people just forgot it was a theory. Probably because that theory is pretty much the president of the "It was stated in CFYOW" meme club. (For those who don't know, there was a time where very few people had actually read CFYOW, so many people wanting to impose their theory/headcanon as actual canon would just say "it was stated in CFYOW"). Now it's still a thing but with the lesser known novels.
@guima4659
2 ай бұрын
Masahiro hollow form was used in the woods, outside soul society, The other Vizards used it in the soul king castle which is also not the fucking soul society. Above all, NONE OF THEM were affiliated with the gotei 13 anymore or more specifically with the central cucks(the senators)
@Zac_Frost
2 ай бұрын
Nah, because Mashiro still used hers. Kubo revealed the reason was because they couldn't use Bankai and Hollowfication at the same time, as unlike Hollow Zangetsu, their Zanpakutos weren't naturally Hollowfied from birth. With enough training, though, it'd be easy. They could even attain Ressurccion like Tosen did if they went that route.
@LordOfEssex
2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile full hollow ichigo* "Bankais....are more of a suggestion, wanna see how far i can throw it?"😈
@11fabace
3 ай бұрын
hollowified + bankai would look so cool reminds me of toshi
@scarletevans4474
3 ай бұрын
In short - "Ichigo is a monster" and we can't measure others based on his fighting style.
@kingban1613
3 ай бұрын
Damn, great points I hadn't thought of.
@LygarZeroX
Ай бұрын
they gained it later in life. ichigo was born with it. even though he started out with less time, he was born with it.
@gabrieldevoogel6225
2 ай бұрын
We actually see the less control part with Hichigo’s porcelain lizard look gets more feral and spikes in the anime when he goes bankai
@AuraTale
2 ай бұрын
To be fair, we saw two new Vizard using Bankai... Toshirou and Soifon used Hollow + Bankai to get their Bankai back. Neither were able to fight after that for quite some time though. Sad we never see them use it again.
@Xieru
3 ай бұрын
bro always cooks
@iwearredties1317
3 ай бұрын
The Mask during the TYBW… for Mashiro to beat the shit out of Hisagi
@DDJFilmss
3 ай бұрын
Hollowfication doesn’t leave the user that exhausted after use and Mashiro’s mask breaking could be due to other external factors or she’s just wrong. And amp wise it’s equivalent to a bankai or resurrecion
@bluknight6944
3 ай бұрын
I love Bleach but I always wanted more from the Vizards. I was excited to see that some of them went back to the Gotei 13. I even thought that they would play a major role once it was revealed that hollows had a negative effect on Quincies
@00yiggdrasill00
3 ай бұрын
I do wonder if there's some real misunderstanding involved for the vizard harshly limiting their ability. Given even Ichigo had to go to the royal palace to fully understand his zanpakuto's nature...do the vizard even realise that monster they are suppressing is an aspect of, or outright is their zanpakuto? Even by the end of the blood war they may well still be approaching their hollow power in the completely wrong way. We see Ichigo getting longer and longer use in his fights with less drawbacks as he goes. And the vizard say bankai interacts with the mask so I see no reason to think it's completely different to Ichigo outside the old man. Of course it would be very taxing to be using something in so completely the wrong way
@TrevorTucker-n4t
3 ай бұрын
I think the difference is the source of the Hollow power. In Ichigo's case, he was born with it whereas the Vizards were transformed during the Hollowfication experiment. They had no choice in the matter. Kiske saved their lives with the use of his Hogyoku, which also might have affected the Vizard's connection while they were clinging on to life during the process of suppressing the Hollow inside of them. Additionally, and this is a detail that I think is important, they have no interest in working along with their inner Hollows. It was one thing during the fight with Aizen, when they were assisting the other members of the Gotei 13 because at that point they were still considered outcasts, criminals but after Aizen was defeated, those who were already of Captain status were reinstated while others were free to return to the Soul Society having their names cleared. During the agreements of return, there could have been conditions that they were not allowed to use their Hollow powers on a regular basis, perhaps even a limiter was created to prevent them from doing so freely as well much like when they do battle in the world of living but I think it's just a personal choice. As Shinigami, they probably feel their own power is more than sufficient to not have to rely on the strength of an enemy. It might have been useful if they were to train with Bankai and Hollow powers after returning to the Soul Society by the time of the Thousand Year Blood War but I doubt it would have been allowed and I'm sure many in the Seireitei would be in fear of them potentially losing control. Could be wrong on all fronts there but that's always been my thought behind why we didn't see the Vizards use their Hollow powers more, especially during the war.
@00yiggdrasill00
3 ай бұрын
@@TrevorTucker-n4t you raise a good point that they may just not want to use it accept that power, but I don't personally see laws as the primary stopping force. At the least shunsui is exactly pragmatic enough to order it's use in the war... unless there is a deeper and very personal reason the vizard would really hate that order. They were hollowfied in quite a traumatic method and over 100 years only seem to have done enough to survive. 4 lieutenants and no new bankai or noticeable increase in power from the captains. They may well still be healing and just not ready to even consider the step Ichigo took. I accept that the hogyoku may have interfered with it all, but I come back to "the blade is me" in that a zanpakuto is not really a separate spirit, but themselves (at least to my understanding). Meaning the hollow that was merged with their souls is now part of them and reflected in the zanpakuto. At least that's my thinking on it but hey only Kubo has any idea if it's remotely accurate.
@menharawatson
3 ай бұрын
The hollows aren't part of their bankai They already had a different zanpakuto soul While Ichigo's zanpakuto soul was the hollow it self
@Roblox_AC
Ай бұрын
Thing is, the vizards are artificially hybrids, Ichigo was born with white and therefore their powers act diffirently
@00yiggdrasill00
Ай бұрын
@@Roblox_AC so people are saying, but I'm not finding evidence to support that. My thinking is that the zanpakuto is a part of the soul, so it reflects the state of the soul as we see in Ichigo. Now you may be absolutely correct and it's very different for them but I can only go on the information I have.
@Goremejy
Ай бұрын
I think the vizoreds main problem is their relationship with their inner hollows, likely due to the association with Aizen. I think Kubo stated they could achieve a ressurcion like Tosen, they just need to train for it
@muhdsyabil93
3 ай бұрын
Well ichigo's hollow would gladly fight for him while protecting him ofcouse🤣
@shawnneal9297
2 ай бұрын
It makes sense that the mask of a hollow Will strip away the person. It adds a lot of power but the user risks giving into the hollow when they give it all of their power.
@kyleanderson449
3 ай бұрын
Bankai doesn't normally add strain to the user. However that loss of control can be very bad and should never be done with allies around. Ichigo can also use his more because he is naturally part hollow and didn't need hollowification.
@robertsiemon410
2 ай бұрын
Actuality. Prior to tybw ark. The vizirds were all given clemency by Yamamoto. But they were banned/ agreed not to use their hallow powers. Shinji states it at some point. It all transpired after aizen was defeated by mugetsu ichigo. And the shinigami learned the previous captains lieutenants where alive, and didn't betray seiteti.
@wolfsaints
Ай бұрын
Also for ichigo his hollow powers are actually apart of his soul reaper powers and not something that was added later
@athosgomesfonseca
2 ай бұрын
Simple, Kubo wrote himself into a corner and couldn’t figure out a way to balance writing captain class Shinigami using such an amp. After Ichigo’s Ulquiorra pseudo-vasto lorde transformation, I sorta hoped that would be the the next step for the Visored, to train and master such a beyond Bankai power but Kubo simply dropped it. I know he was dealing with a lot of health and emotional issues which is why I hope now that’s he’s had the time to heal, maybe Bleach could get an anime reboot with him leading the writing to fully realize his vision without the insane pressure of weekly publishing.
@Missure_E
2 ай бұрын
Not to sure about that. Kubo said that all Vizards can use Bankai and Resurrección at the same time. So having their masks "restrict" their Bankai time doesn't add up.
@lwandomadikizela2213
2 ай бұрын
It's like using the Kaioken or going Super Saiyan 3. Yes the Vizards could use hollowfication while at bankai, the problem lies with stamina and the amount of Spirit Energy needed to use and maintain. Unless they're like Ichigo with high Spiritual Pressure and stamina, they have to put on and take off their mask to save what power they have.
@novatheavenger3314
3 ай бұрын
It depends on the bankai. If Yamamoto had a visor mask he's on need 5 seconds
@Phantica
3 ай бұрын
I’d rather see my goat lose to exhaustion over getting one tapped 🙏
@doriankamanzi6874
Ай бұрын
See I understand the logic and it makes perfect sense, but at the same time it was so cool and the fact that we didn't get to see it as much as we could have. He's still sad
@adradox
2 ай бұрын
Not all Visored returned to Gotei 13. Maybe because one of the condition was to completely abandon usage of hollowfication. It could also be the case of scientists like Urahara and Mayuri just removing "hollow" part of their power entirely. I mean if Mayuri can stitch up an arrancar and make it work why can't he extract hollow out if a visored?
@theloneshadow14
3 ай бұрын
The reason Hiori said he doesnt wanna use Bankai is because since theyve been watching him they know his Reiatsu becomes more unstable while in that state likely associating it with his ability to suppress Whites influence in that state, not that Bankai well, in Ichigos case at least is harder to maintain but i believe their case is different in why why cant use it for as long where as Ichigo can keep it on like second nature after Grimmjow, Halibel did say its like watching two Espada fight, he was getting more used to it
@byesonineedmilk
3 ай бұрын
Long Answer Short For them to return back to soul society they must not use the mask because of the possibility of them losing control
@12hollobollo
Ай бұрын
Also in a war situation vizard would be pretty useless cuz it isnt a one battle thing
@lCaptainCanaryl
Ай бұрын
Real answer: Kubo was rushing during the original release of the Blood War, so he simply forgot about it in preference for other things.
@esyt3639
2 ай бұрын
Actual good info
@Samantha517
Ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense now
@mr.morningstar9252
2 ай бұрын
And another factor is that White is both ichigo's hollow ans shinigami powers whereas if I'm not wrong then the hollows in the visoreds are a seperate entity than their shinigami powers.
@CaptainKirkZ1LLA
3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Bankai thing was unique to Ichigo. Because the big thing about that was when White hijacked Ichigo in the fight with Byakuya, he was the one that made "proper" use of the Bankai, even as far as using Getsuga in Bankai first, and had essentially claimed it as his own (which we find out is technically true anyways). That being said, Ichigo's Hollow powers were intrinsically tied to his Bankai, and would fight harder to surface when he used it as a result.
@soulman9018
3 ай бұрын
It was never explained. Even in Ichigo’s he at first could only use the mask for eleven seconds at most in both his shikai and bankai. Nor was it even implied as Hyori taughted that that Ichigo’s inner hollow would take over him if goes bankai not that it would strain him.
@ChaosInsurgentEvelyn
2 ай бұрын
Okay but why did some of the vizard captains take the kisuke's "hollow pill" like they already are part hollows their bankai can't be stolen
@theunknown7441
Ай бұрын
Visors are the super saiyan 2 of bleach
@tater8960
3 ай бұрын
Its simply not true that after you use it it leaves u exhausted. That is only if u leave it on and perform multiple large scale attacks and are also new to using it. Love and rose use their masks and literally fight starrk for an extended period and dont even pant when they are done with their masks. It isnt nearly as taxing as u make it out to be. Also not all bankai put a huge strain on stamina. Ichigos bankai isnt one that leaves you exhausted becuase its mainly physical and just a overall stat boost to basic skills. Many examples are shown where bankai doesnt leave a user exhausted: byakuya, kensei, komamura. Also you are making a huge assumption as to what hiyori meant. She was speakjng strictly as to for ichigo. She was not saying that "bankai in and of itself makes hollowfication rampant". That statement was directed towards a noob, not an experienced user.
@soul8648
3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. At least someone actually remembers this part instead of: "there was a law forbids them from using the Hollow mask." Which is false as we see Mashiro uses it in the SERRITEI training Hisagi after Kensei told her to. And in THE MANGA we some visored using their masks as well
@jbstarkiller4626
2 ай бұрын
That’s outside the seretei🤦🏻♂️
@soul8648
2 ай бұрын
@@jbstarkiller4626 there's no way of knowing. But the point is, the Visoreds DID use their masks against Gerard. So there is no VALID PROOF that it is a rule, just a head canon of others to think of a reason why they didn't use it. Also, ASSUMING that it WASN'T there, (which it's 90% is), they did NOT get punished by it. And also, IF there WAS a law like that, they wouldn't allow them taking the captain seats REGARDLESS of them missing captains
@jbstarkiller4626
2 ай бұрын
@@soul8648 Well we could ask Kubo🤷🏻♂️ doesn’t he have club outside for this exact reason? When the Visords fought with Gerard, they were in the newly transformed Soul Palace.
@soul8648
2 ай бұрын
@@jbstarkiller4626 they fought him in the manga way later spoilers, and no. It was in the Soul Society more like the Gotei 13, but was changed to Yhwach's liking but it is still the Serritei. And if THAT was the LAW, don't you think they would forbid the visoreds to become the captains or heck. Even to Ichigo to help them
@jbstarkiller4626
2 ай бұрын
@@soul8648 The place was called the Warwelt, it was outside the seretei.
@GSmonty
3 ай бұрын
One would imagine they'd train to do one powerful strike like one deep breath before going back to a neutral fighting state for awhile
@Caernunnos
3 ай бұрын
Mashiro's clame was her own
@mehwishsa4226
3 ай бұрын
good video man
@hendrikmoons8218
3 ай бұрын
Most sword duels in real life lasted about 30 seconds. The same for random swordfights. So in all, train shikai/bankai + mask as much as possible. Because if you cannot win with that power up, guess what, you would have lost anyway.
@Overvoid7
3 ай бұрын
Plus hollow in ichigo is a good guy
@obitouchiha6439
3 ай бұрын
I would've liked to see a plot where Ichigo's progress inspires the other Visored to truly master Hollowfication so that they can use it with their Bankai.
@alexsantiago3181
3 ай бұрын
Ichigo could use his Mask fobso long because he was truly parr Hollow, while the Vizards were simply failed experiments who could use a mask for a bit, essentially borrowing a hollows powers. Ichigo wasn't borrowing power, it was truly his.
@alberth8125
3 ай бұрын
"Blah blah blah they can't last" Bro they didn't use it so the Quincy wouldn't lose quickly.
@zygx47
3 ай бұрын
If you wear vizard but getting lot of dmg and wear it due the combat fight it drains so fast and will take only 3-4 minutes
@mp6640
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but we are talking about people who had their mask way longer than Ichigo and some were captains in the Gotei 13 so I’m not buying the whole because using bankai as well taxes the user. They are shinigamis who even had decades and centuries to perfect this ability.
@ChenulaKumburegama
3 ай бұрын
Mask+bankai would be wild if you had enough reiatsu and control.
@alludedt
3 ай бұрын
still stupid shinji, rose and kensei were seen taking the pill for the anti bankai stealing quincy thing in the anime (pretty sure it wasnt in the manga tho) also insane kubo didnt add a scene of one of them fighting before the pill was created, i deadass think kubo just didnt know a work around and wanted to make the first invasion a heavy defeat
@corruptangel6793
3 ай бұрын
According to Kubo, their hollow powers aren't fused with their Zanpakuto like Ichigo's are.
@mythrixx_world
2 ай бұрын
bruh ichigo spamming that stuff like crack with steroids
@vipercrb5622
3 ай бұрын
The Visored members of the gotei were also the only members who didn't get their bankai stolen, meaning that they couldn't be stolen due to the hollowfication being poison to the Quincy, so they must still have the capacity to use hollowfication but do not under some strange restriction. Perhaps as to prevent insulting other members or in solidarity.
@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu
3 ай бұрын
They were getting absolutely railed by the quincys bro wdym. Its just bad writing they should have used hollowfication
@Nerthos
3 ай бұрын
In TYBW, they're working under Yamamoto, a shinigami puritan. Pretty sure they're just not allowed to.
@jasonabokhai4626
2 ай бұрын
Wait I we talking about the same mask that ichigo was wearing like 24/7 and spamming it every time ulquiorra broke it 🤨 this goes to show how strong ichigo actually is
@Allalos-s2l
2 ай бұрын
I think it's because they learned how to use there hollow powers without using a hollow mask like Ichigo had some hollow fications on him
@starcatouter6129
2 ай бұрын
this guy makes a 1 minute long theory and tries to explain why they didnt use their vizard masks . the actual reason: they just forgot they have vizard 💀
@SeveredEverlastingWorldLore
2 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think there is a legit reason to why the captains didn't use Cero or Hollowfication. A minute boost could be a decided factor in a battle. Kensei in particular definitely could've used his mask in a last ditch effort. He claims that he has a hard time holding back after all. Rose's situation wouldn't have made a difference. Shinji never even got started. Hyori, Lisa, and Love used them against Gerad in that single panel in the Blood war if I recall. So if it's a spiritual pressure and strength boost, then it makes the most sense for Kensei to have used it during the war.
@yunan9610
3 ай бұрын
Ichigo is just built different
@KurosakiK
2 ай бұрын
Потому что советом 46 было запрещено использовать маски на територии Сейрейтея. Кенсею пришлось вообще в руконгай идти чтобы тренировать Хисаги
@raohkenbroly
3 ай бұрын
This explanation bothers in the sense of in telling the story they couldn’t tell it well because they decided to give the Quincy’s the ability to steal Bankais which wouldn’t work against the visoreds. And then still try to make it some discovery when they realized they couldn’t take Ichigo’s Bankai. None of the strong characters from the Arrancar war did much because the story telling defeated itself.
@delmarhi
3 ай бұрын
The mask represents a person covering their true self. Internal conflict manifested outwardly. The total polar opposite of a shinigami and zanpakto.
@animelivetv6223
2 ай бұрын
The halliw mask was use in the blood war you just forgot 😅
@najiib605
3 ай бұрын
Probably cause hollowfication speeds up making them more hollow than soul reaper which would hurt them
@xenosaga8436
2 ай бұрын
Wasn't the whole reason Ichigo trains with the Visoreds so he could extend the time he could use his mask for? Just because the increased power had a time limit is no reason not to use it. Hitsugaya's bankai had a time limit on it, so he trained to increase that limit. Didn't Rukia's also have a limit because it dropped her temperature so much that it was dangerous to use it too long?
@astralasher8700
3 ай бұрын
What a complicated way to say kubo forgot
@bobby31723
3 ай бұрын
Kubo made ALL the non gotei vizards use masks in the TYBW and Mashiro also used it outside of the seireitei . He clearely did not forgot what are you on about ?
@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu
3 ай бұрын
@@bobby31723ur saying they didnt use it although they were getting absolutely doggy walked by the quincy because of some rules? Its bad writing bro
@bobby31723
3 ай бұрын
@@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu considering how important rules are in the seireitei and you can easily get executed for breaking them , no it is not bad writing.
@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu
3 ай бұрын
@@bobby31723 what rules lil bro? Literally all captains were getting killed, yamamoto became toji 2.0. Who would carry out the punishment? Dead people?
@bobby31723
3 ай бұрын
@@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu All captains getting killed ? damn, you must have watched Clorox, because 90% of them are still there.
@mashrafus
3 ай бұрын
Why do i like this 😭
@tonyjahbob3214
3 ай бұрын
Ichigo can put on the mask multiple times during the hueco mundo arc
@RossNerdyScotsman
3 ай бұрын
in the anime 2 of the captains used their masks
@SSAS939
3 ай бұрын
I legit think that kubo forgot or smth Cuz they used masks against Aizen! That was a drawn out fight from the get go And they can refresh marks like they did in fake karakura This is down playing vizards imo
@kennethwilliams8696
2 ай бұрын
I thought the whole point of the Vizard captains, from a story perceptive, was to teach Ichigo how to control his hollow powers. Shouldn’t they have already done the necessary training to offset these drawbacks? They’ve all had hollows for a 100 years?
@TheHumanShitpost
3 ай бұрын
Also ichigos hollow doesnt actually wanna hurt him. So ichigo probably jas an easier time than the others
@oniichan3537
3 ай бұрын
kisuke telling everyone with a bankai to touch the black pill to hollow it. me: why tf is shinji doing it ????? u have the premium version ????😭
@deathpawn5966
3 ай бұрын
You have to remember in the world of bleach hollows and soul reapers are on an opposite spectrum, the only reason why Ichigo can perform hollowfication with bankai and stay sane is because he’s a mix breed , the power repel each other and it’s not practical to use them together
@vince6918
3 ай бұрын
Then why do they showcase the ability when fighting against Aizen and the Arrancars? It still didn't make sense when they willingly used it before and then decided not to use it against the Quincies.
@ThomasOwOD
3 ай бұрын
Where does this come from? They do use their masks in tybw, it’s just later on
@unrealgamer6054
3 ай бұрын
What is the soundtrack you use for bleach
@myjesusfair777
3 ай бұрын
Hear me out! Spoilers The hollow that infected the captains was still a Early Specimen,and in the case the hollow that infected ichigo,was the best Specimen Aizen had, and,it infected ichigo when His mother was pregnant, because it is able to transfer hosts ,so ichigo having insane amounts of Reatisu and being Infected at such a age made him almost grow with the Hollow everyime he got stronger,sooo i would say Ichigos hollowfication being from such a age that basically means he was nearly Born half hollow meaning the hollowfication of the captains seems to be at 25-50 % while Ichigos he was born a hollow basically
@brnt8702
3 ай бұрын
Probably because they haven’t filled their vizard bar yet
@bradenwilliams2480
3 ай бұрын
At the same time weren’t the visored actually weaker during the fight vs aizen due to them being in gigai?
@shukei26
3 ай бұрын
How did the Visoreds use their Zanpakuto and Masks while their Gigais that Urahahra gave them? Also they originally said thay the Visoerd used forbidden methods to gain hollow powers but we later learn that easnt the case
@akuokami1677
3 ай бұрын
The captain level characters don't need the mask their power is already higher than "mask" feats
@toxi6836
2 ай бұрын
They both require high amounts of reiatsu. Why would anyone but the mc be able to hold it?
@himekomurata72
3 ай бұрын
If they're going to lose and possibly die, then they should've just used the mask as a last resort. It's honestly just a plot hole
@Sam_Miller
3 ай бұрын
Mashiro said she could use it for 15hrs. She didn't say she could fight with it on for that long
@glanced9684
3 ай бұрын
Too bad bc the masks are really cool
@williamboehler5119
Ай бұрын
Vizard were wasted. So cool, so much potential, and then... Almost nothing?
@oof8911
2 ай бұрын
Well Ichigo wasn't hollowfied, it is part of his real power
@joshklein5070
3 ай бұрын
So in other words, Mask = super saiyan 3. At some point, it's not worth the risk.
@WilliamColeman-v8g
3 ай бұрын
So unless you’re Ichigo you’re cooked if you use a mask
@FGFDHBDYFL
2 ай бұрын
The reason why they didn't use it in 1000bw is because central 46 forbidded vaizards to use them in soul society.
@issqsskatingclips9108
3 ай бұрын
So visored is basically like kaioken
@Watashi-Wa-Kat-Desu
3 ай бұрын
Honestly pretty bad writing. It doesnt matter if it drains u of all ur stamina. If youre about to die, you would use ur strongest move no matter the cost. Ichigo never used his vastoLorde form after beating ulqiourra and it was never even mentioned in the story afterwards and was forgotten like it never existed. He also magically never used his mask in lost agent arc and tybw arc. We were never given a proper explanation of this. Bleach could be 1000x better if not for these plot holes. Its quite infuriating
@mgeezylaslo7054
3 ай бұрын
why would kubo even let shinji return to being a captain when yamamoto forbid the use of vizard masks and he can't use his bankai
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