The day 1 player thing is real. Most of the harsh genshin critics are actually just long time players that got burned over time due to the game not really changing.
@elfireii328
2 ай бұрын
yep, Tectone is a perfect example of understanding everything that was wrong with genshin. But ofcourse there is Envi who goes the other direction picking mint instead.
@sutishati9503
2 ай бұрын
@@elfireii328never followed Enviosity, what did he say?
@yuukisen1404
2 ай бұрын
I am one. Prolly think we just critiquing for no reason.
@lunaticyoshi1
2 ай бұрын
@@sutishati9503 "I SHOULD BE PRAISED!!!" and "Do you think complaining will fix anything?" Enviosity is popular for being "f2p", but pulling on other people's accounts for content. He got flak a few months ago because he refused to cover the Genshin anniversary drama.
@sutishati9503
2 ай бұрын
@@lunaticyoshi1 oh I see
@Re_RealSuke
2 ай бұрын
Thankyou for reviewing my video! Your takes make me have better view toward the discussion! Ig: the concept of people who are heavily emotionally/financially invested into the game didn't cross my mind while making the video. I admitted that some of my takes are exaggerated here and there a little bit XD. PS: the Nikke thing was about 3 months ago.
@grymns
2 ай бұрын
I started Genshin during the patch Navia was released, I've played a few gacha games before, and after playing for a few months and especially after that 3rd anniversary shenanigans, i immediately quit, that game does not care for their player base at all
@beasthaven1571
2 ай бұрын
What hurt the most about how they treated their player base? I never played genshin
@nightstalker1112
2 ай бұрын
@@Lopaloos it’s not hyo that is the issue it’s the Director for Genshin that’s the issue. Each game has their own Director
@SOSmania
2 ай бұрын
@@Lopaloos Yup thats what it suck .But i will not complain if they hear the player base or the honkai director take the control of genshin. If they improve everything what we want then i will go back for sure thats a promise. Because genshin is a nostalgia for me. I remember i started during 2nd liyue quest . Man years has passed.
@SOSmania
2 ай бұрын
Oh you r one of my kohai . Sure mate i really feel vey bad for the new players.
@devilkazumi578
2 ай бұрын
@beasthaven1571 genshin does nothing for their anniversary it's just a daily login rewards and they don't communicate with the playerbase or listen to feedback and they gave the players 3 pulls for 3 years of support
@lezardex6335
2 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest i didn't hate Genshin the game itself at first, BUT the Hoyo fanbase as a whole, loud minority or not made me absolutely HATE any Hoyo games. I truly don't want to interact with any of them or the compagny. It's often like this, the bigger the fanbase is, the more toxic it become too.
@juli99329
2 ай бұрын
I can agree with this very hard, and that is sadly the reason why I can't even play hsr or even ZZZ in the future because exactly of this. It simply doesn't make me want to play their games anymore.
@windygrotesque2102
2 ай бұрын
tbf the game itself already have redflag for inviting those group of toxic people, i mean casual gameplay with so many yuri/yaoi/loli/shota bait are few of the examples, i know you can just ignore them, but that loud minorities itself are the one that responsible the dev changing their art direction to adding censorship itself, even they still debating ship and sexualization of the character on twitter,, they're not much different with sonic or MHA fanbase now,
@keademolition6476
2 ай бұрын
Good potion of hoyoverse fans are unhinged. I definitely did not forget about Gen stans review bombing Google Classroom and randoms app due to anniversary reward upset lmao. Can't even say you don't like a husbando or waifu sometimes without some unhinged coming in screaming at you and calling you a pedo or woman/man hater. 😂 Then proceed to turn around and bark at their fav pixel. Like dude chill, its just a game. I used to play HI3 but dropped for HSR and only play that very casually (Fk tryharding against Hoyo balant power creep). Picked up Wuwa and enjoying it too. I avoid any interaction with Hoyo stans.
@longphan7656
2 ай бұрын
@@keademolition6476 watch as they review bomb Wuthering wave for giving out better 1st anni reward than all Hoyo anni reward combined
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp
2 ай бұрын
Story was one part that made me quit Genshin. Also the lack of innovation. But yeah, the community for me was the worst. Any kind of serious criticism is met with hostility. Like, im sorry but how a company making BILLIONS lacks so many basic feature in their MOBILE like game ? i DOUBT this is a bad critic. Yet you get told to not be ungrateful, that you don't know how the code works(if its that bad that making small changes will break it, this team of devs are fucking awful and i DOUBT they are). And you get told "well, just ignore them there arepeople like this everywhere". I agree but when you try to talk with them this is what you get, so it's not like you can avoid it when you want to discuss with them. And since it seems most of them are like these assholes, it quickly becomes annoying. The fake positivity is also embarrassing to witness.
@mercutiodrakmord5291
2 ай бұрын
Did GI players forget about the 120 Stam cap when the game first came out? How nobody could pronounce Liyue in EN? CO-OP being so laggy it was horrendous? First Event being CO-OP AND costing Stamina? As a GI First day player, they are mostly talking out of their ass by comparing 4 years of development after release to the few weeks of WuWa. WuWa is currently in a better spot than GI will ever be... because GI WILL NEVER. Yea... The hostile GI Fans are brain damaged.
@lactoseman
2 ай бұрын
mintpickers are panicking that wuwa is actually breaking 9 figures and they're starting to lose it "wuwa is TOO GENEROUS" (LMAO???) "genshin has more combat depth because it has over 10 elemental reactions, all wuwa added is dodge and parry" "wuwa 1.0 is garbage compared to genshin 5.0" "wuwa 100m < genshin 150m = wuwa flopped" "its doing really bad in cn according to basically the cn versions of reddit so its a dead game" "quitting because of bad echo system and i wasnt able to get the equivalent 3 year old genshin artifacts in 3 weeks"
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp
2 ай бұрын
also the story in 1.0 wasn't anything great either. Same goes for the music (which got A LOT better , my favorite part of the game for sure). They act like GI was great from the start. Hypocrites.
@ThomasAndy-qu8dp
2 ай бұрын
@@lactoseman also, this game will probably not surpass GI so they'll keep calling it bad. GI is there for years and many of iots players won't drop it. So to them : less revenue = shitty and dead game. Even worse than MMO wars.
@Diamond1234
2 ай бұрын
...Oh gosh, we don't talk about how the first event in genshin cost resin to get the rewards you worked for! Version 1.x of Genshin was so cursed solely for that. ...I'm so glad I wasn't there and started later, the only thing I'm sad I missed about the past was the Festering Desire (also Albedo's story quest part 2 where it came from lol but at least I can see that on KZitem later).
@Raven3557
2 ай бұрын
As asmongold said, people are already invested (time/money) in genshin, and having a new successful game coming out would make them think they wasted their time It's sunk cost fallacy mixed with tribalism
@prohanta9360
2 ай бұрын
genshin stan hate everything that has possibility to compete with them or similar with them. this is the timeline of their hatred. - they hate tof even before their glb launch because it looks similar with genshin, "open world gacha game". the hate was so crazy that they attacked everyone who play their glb beta. they made random misinformation about "genshin killer" which apparently made by genshin cc in CN (dude sued by hotta and lost). even they went to gateoo channel (tof CC, the biggest one) and doompost his channel and even told him something like "why you still play this trash game? play better game like genshin" - they hate hsr because they thought it might compete with genshin. even honkai 3rd community tried to gatekeep them from playing hsr because they didn't want any toxicity in honkai franchise from genshin community (it was also because after 1st genshin anniversary drama that they 1star rating honkai 3rd) - they hate project mugen because it looks like genshin but urban setting. eventhough they felt "threatened" they unable to dismiss how PM looks very promising. nevertheless they still kept bringing netease again and again but apparently they also confused between netease and netmarble - they hate wuwa simply because it looks like genshin and it's genshin copy but better. considering how current state of genshin, now wuwa has people who actually defend it despite attack here and there not like back in tof where it was genshin prime and people just shtting on tof without any reason (on tof world chat, there was a lot of genshin doomposters and toxic)
@skyhart9926
2 ай бұрын
genhit stans should be thankful and grateful to wuwa. they should be begging Kuro to keep doing an excellent job. it’s because of wuwa’s competition that genshin is improving such as the increase of resin from 160 to 200 just in time with wuwa’s first update. many more improvements to come in succeeding genshin patches for sure. genshin will be forced to innovate and improve because of wuwa. And genshit stans will benefit from wuwa’s success. they’re just too stoopid to realize what a blessing wuwa is to genshin.
@LostWallet
2 ай бұрын
day 1 players remember the amount of bug at launch. we even have a joke to guess how much primo gem they will gave us for every new bug found (at some point, they stop giving out primogem for bug fix) we remember how weirly every npc pronounce Liyue diffrently, we even make joke about it, but now everyone seem to think Genshin have the perfect voice acting without any flaw we remember how the first fight with Devalyn at Monstrad is just you awkwardly flying on your glider while shooting beam out of your face we remember Kaeya character quest is just him tricking us to look for a fake treasure that end extreamly anti climatic we remember the final boss of the Monstrad act is just an abyss mage we remember about people complain how the amount of Resin cap is too low we remember the "content drought" that make people so mad that some threathen to quit the game, and some did we remember how when Zhongli come out, and was the undisputed best shielder support in the game, and people still say he is underpowerd (as dps), so they buff him, despite many people warning that this might cause extream power creep latter on, and it did we remember the first co-op event was so buggy, that many people cant do it with their own frioends, not to mention random people. Genshin is not the perfect game people "remembered" it to be.
@Bronan2920
2 ай бұрын
They forgot all of that and only brought up the amount of rewards genshin gave at the launch, which they stopped and now they dont even listen to their players🤣
@younge2273
2 ай бұрын
Genshin was not nearly as buggy and shitty as Wuwa’s launch. Revisionist history won’t work
@LostWallet
2 ай бұрын
@@Bronan2920 yes, many people forgot/misattributed those "reward" as Genshin launch reward rather than "compensation" for bugs. and even then, they didnt gave out that much, only 60-300 gem at most depending on the type of bugs. I forgot when they just stop giving out compensation, but one day, they jsut stop, and no one ever talk about it.
@kami761
2 ай бұрын
@@younge2273 Yeah, it was worse
@Bronan2920
2 ай бұрын
@@younge2273 nah. Optimizations- somewhat better, buggy? NO. I STILL REMEMBER A TONS OF BUGS HAPPENED TO ME THE FIRST DAY OF PLAYING. IF YOU WANT TO, I CAN LIST SOME THAT HAPPENED ON DAY 1
@XzMondayNightzX
2 ай бұрын
"Genshin is the best game and Wuwa is trash.." Where is your festering desire? "I didn't start until last year when there was 3 years of bugfixes and content and also I play 1 hour a week I don't read anything outside of game / official media or bother with any of the events outside of the game and hoyo does nothing wrong ever. genshin has no drama ever and you're just being toxic." I was a day 1 genshin player but haven't bothered logging in after WuWa. I'm here to fight and explore a little. In genshin the characters while interesting are NOT CONTENT for me because other than spiral abyss what the fukk else is there to do with them? I also think bond of life is stupid and I just use zhongersmcdongers to ignore it, WuWa is new and it needs time to cook especially with a small team that screws up every 2 seconds... BUT things do get fixed, things do get changed and the base game (Combat) is great. The character designs are great and better yet? THE EFFECTS IN COMBAT. Ohhh man. Jinhsi dragons in her splash art HAVE PURPOSE. Yinlin is super flashy like triple keqing. (Keqing was all burst) Yes, they are copying hoyos homework on a lot of things but hey, it's refinement. Just look at the movement system and if you don't agree you can fukk off because you're a shill.
@Glxrp
2 ай бұрын
I heard someone say they designed movement for people who hate open world games, I literally just said what if people just like to “move fast” revisiting this just reminded me of playing among us and people liked to up movement speed to literally just move faster. Freedom in games is good, limiting things that are necessary to a degree but not everyone enjoys is good. And I find it funny that if you don’t want to run up a wall you can climb at snail speed like in everyother open world game
@XzMondayNightzX
2 ай бұрын
@@Glxrp Yeah very true. Most people just want to get to their destination and the appeal wears off very fast after the 100th time (Rip Lisa Climb voice). There's also no reason you need to drain stamina running around out of combat either. They slap enough way points around and the world isn't that after your first two walkarounds. I just want to go to X to do my daily or whatever and more so if I have to sit there and let the npc yap for literally 20 lines of dialogue. I just want to can claim my 10 primos and log off. Skip button please, why even have Yaps for dailies like this? That fucking fontaine painter is the worst. The movement is ass and the dialogue is ass.
@itsallinthepast2944
2 ай бұрын
Hoyo broadsword...helicopter helicopter
@ambulance-kun5915
2 ай бұрын
Seeing the game you invested a huge chunk of time (and maybe also money) and knowing it's the most popular gacha game out there, there's this "assurance" that you can you can keep on playing this relevant game, and you know you're in this "safe space" with a ton of content creators that keeps the game alive. But when another gacha game even creeps close to this "safe space" of yours, you're inclined to defend your safe space, without even checking out this new thing that is supposedly "killing" your game. At this point, it's not about which is the better game, it's like picking your favorite K-pop band and sticking to them no matter what while not giving even a glance to other bands which also did as much effort, or even sometimes more. At the very least, this is how I see these people that keeps on blindly defending Genshin that cannot accept why some people actually likes Wuwa more.
@Kiyosandwicheater
2 ай бұрын
Great-great asset to the company
@tsukiri_masho
2 ай бұрын
Basically, when they eat shit for years and they start to enjoy it
@flarpo11
2 ай бұрын
Genshin stans are worried their game is gonna get absorbed by a bigger, more relevant Aeon... Star Rail's lore is just a big metaphor for gacha beef! It all makes sense now!
@guillermogerrycabrera7625
2 ай бұрын
I like your explanation.
@elfireii328
2 ай бұрын
3:32 I agree. I see people talking about how much better genshin's story or character designs are, but never limit their scope to how it was like during launch. I also see alot of people who say they are day 1 players (as am I) more critical of hoyo games or atleast bring up better points. But ofcourse, players like Envi exist. 160 resin, oculus stamina gating, terrible early events, underwhelming story, etc.
@vermilion6966
2 ай бұрын
I played at the beginning of genshin and Ive no fkn clue what youre about as story and characters design in genshin hasnt changed since then. As in, the story while kinda childish was fine and character design was always very good. So far the only redeeming thing about ww for me is Scar xD if the dude didnt show up, i wouldve dropped it after 3 days. ww just doesnt have any real quality to it that can attract players
@younge2273
2 ай бұрын
It was much better during launch. Simplistic, easy to understand story, that doesn’t shove a million bizarre terms at you Decent voice acting that doesn’t sound like AI No Localization or translation issues in dialogue Easily better optimized Better music It’s not about limiting scope. Even if we do, Wuwa still pales in comparison. Wuwa got good combat though so I’ll give it that
@Vult_Ira317
2 ай бұрын
HSR character desgin are millions times better than Genshin.
@SOSmania
2 ай бұрын
@@vermilion6966 I will say the story has improved a lot in Genshin may be you have not played the recent ones but the design lets be honest its not good as HSR
@terrormansakata9626
2 ай бұрын
@youngeli5974 just cause the story is easy to understand doesn't make it good lmao genshin 1.0 story was simple to understand but it was also extremely boring,genshin is also better optimized because it's on unity and not ue3 so I wouldn't even see that as something to praise, also maybe im crazy but people hate on wuthering waves story for giving you alot of terms at the beginning but hsr did the same shit and nobody cared lmao like the double standards are insane lol.
@handlerone5172
2 ай бұрын
Doesn't help that the WuWa reddit is full of doomposts and regurgitated problems that consistently get upvotes. So many posts about the echo issue like the devs didn't come out with a long post detailing they are going to change it. These people just want to try and cause discourse within the community so Hoyo is the sole company that can make a good game.
@indomitable2566
2 ай бұрын
I stopped going to that subreddit. It’s full of regurgitated memes and complaints (justified or not). Like we get it. You want better exp drops. Do we have to read a thread about that 100 times? Do we have to see the same thread about the same bug a 100 times? You can’t find a meaningful discussion about character builds, boss fight strategies, actual gameplay footage, puzzle solutions, people taking scenery screenshots without filtering out those sh*tty threads. I hope they put the same energy into the 1.0 survey.
@handlerone5172
2 ай бұрын
@@indomitable2566 I just go to (insert Character)Mains sub. Like ChangliMains for information like that.
@pravum3150
2 ай бұрын
The WuWa leaks sub has more meaningful discussions from my experience 😂
@arkcanon1282
2 ай бұрын
@@pravum3150actually true lol
@solaeris6346
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure most of gacha games subreddit is like that. Full of doomposters.
@bigfootisreal_
2 ай бұрын
From my experience this isn't something specific to only Genshin. People from the popular game's fanbase hating on the upcoming gaming in the same genre is pretty common. Basically they're just insecure. When a game gets very popular there will be people who jump on the bandwagon only because of its popularity. So when a new game comes out in the genre and gets a lot of attention, these people will go feral and start attacking it so that it don't take the top spot. They feel like the time and money they spend on the game is wasted if its no longer popular. These are the type of people who jerk off to seeing genshin at the top of monthly revenue chart.
@kunfupandarofl
2 ай бұрын
As a long time Hoyo player still palying HI3, GI, and HSR along with WuWa... holy shit the Hoyostans have gotten toxic and braindead af. Long story short, HI3's monetization system/design got washed down the drain. Now that part 2 is out, all the part 1 Valks are pretty much useless. Imagine Fontaine coming out and every character, standard banner or limited banner, 4 star or 5 star, are all useless in Abyss outside of the new Fontaine characters. Worst is, NONE of the Part 2 teams function without 1 SINGULAR LIMITED TIME S rank (5 star) character, Sena. Basically imagine the same theoretical Fontaine situation, but now no teams work if you don't have Furina. You pull Arlecchino, or Clorinde, or Neuvilette, you can't play any of them because their damage is trash unless you have Furina. When I mentioned this on Reddit, be it, I got more up votes than downvotes, but for those replying, 90% of them was like "HI3 was always like this" no the fuck it wasn't. Heavy reliance on one major support sure but it was never NOT A SINGLE TEAM WORKS WITHOUT THIS ONE CHARACTER. "Well she's the main character what'd you expect?" I expect her to be obtainable for free then like Herrscher of Origin Raiden Mei if teams REQUIRE her to function and you're releasing 5+ brand new S ranks (5 stars) back to back to back without any grindable ones or reruns (which was common before part 2). Even that analogy is underplaying it because Genshin has an overworld and Abyss is by yourself, you're racing a clock against yourself, no one else. HI3 has nothing but endgame combat content, and that content is PvEvP, meaning you're racing the clock against OTHER players. So not only do you have to pull the character (btw they removed soft pity from 75 and dropped hard pity from 100 to 90 meaning on average you're doing 10-15 MORE pulls), you have to pull all the weapons and gear too, and those have trash pity as well. Like the entire community is so braindead looped in that they can't see how predatory everything is and defending Hoyo like "it's normal." Not to mention the entire appeal of HI3 was the amazing animated shorts and music the game puts out. Nope, that's gone too. Seele's Herrscher Awakening? Good song, shitty in-game graphics and no animation. Budget for animated shorts will now be moved to GI and HSR, sad but Hoyo is throwing out HI3 and it's stupid how Hoyo stans are still defending them while simultaneously getting absolutely shafted.
@MxtrTT
2 ай бұрын
3:51 I am day one player in Genshin and I dont go and knock people’s door and say “Genshin is better” instead, what I do is I knock their door.. and ask them what are they cooking? After that I offer myself to eat with them 😂 Edited: I am early!!
@mickza181
2 ай бұрын
Genshin Hater always bring Genshin everywhere and make genshin lover look bad because genshin lover they just want to defend the game they love. That how i see in every video about Genshin Wuwa
@MxtrTT
2 ай бұрын
@@mickza181 Yeah bro.. it is become trend nowadays to spread hate and create division among the people. I totally understand that some people want to defend their game but not through hate but create a healthy competition. In other words, If you think your game is good then show to the community how good it is not by bringing down other people game just to make the game you love look good. However such idealistic thinking is not for the imperfect world.
@toukoenriaze9870
2 ай бұрын
3 pulls for 3 years xD
@nguyenkeru9590
2 ай бұрын
Yeah and that why i don t play that game any more...
@synctrox9679
2 ай бұрын
Zero powercreep and mostly balanced chars , lets see how much powercreep goes into wuwa because the other games which have thrown rewards at players are ridiculously powercrept
@lordgus615
2 ай бұрын
@@synctrox9679i assume you meant pgr , yeah they have power creep but then again theres no 50/50 on character banners , you can easily get a second copy of the character for free just by doing weekly , weapon and pet banner are 80/20 , and once banner ended the charac goes into standard banner pool and reruns ( 70/30) happens frequent while you can pull weapons and pet anytime because even when charc banner ended , the weapon and pet still retain same gacha chance.
@synctrox9679
2 ай бұрын
@@lordgus615 people defending rampant powercreep where if u take a break then u cant kill anything is always funny to me... It doesnt matter if u can roll a new one in 1 patch worth of currency, all the previous chars are dead weight and so is your investment in them, it feels like constantly chasing a high... Why should i wish on this banner when the char 2 patches down will outscale it ??
@toukoenriaze9870
2 ай бұрын
@@synctrox9679 considering right now most fights can be overcome with skill all powercreep would do is make it easier to do those fights
@curiouscommand5916
2 ай бұрын
Tried Nikke very recently and obvious fan service aside, it is actually pretty fun. Also the OST slaps, so thats a bonus.
@devilkazumi578
2 ай бұрын
Hell yes!!!! And I love the event minigames and they're so generous
@Doro-bashi
2 ай бұрын
Day 1 GI player, I can confirm that "boomers" don't love the game that much anymore, Even the lore... 1300+days of playing burned out my desire for it's lore, it's still at nothing, like: Who's the bad guys in Genshin? It's so stagnant I got sick of it And also, how? We veterans are not so welcome on the Genshin community, now we are blamed to be the stans? And me too, I started playing Nikke, and it stole my heart! I'm so much into it's lore now, And all the things it has to offer
@bencesilye4911
2 ай бұрын
For a story focused game GI doesn't do a good job imo, considering how terrible their story telling is and that 70% of their Archon Quests feel like fillers.
@shahazmeer
2 ай бұрын
@@bencesilye4911 not to mention its narrated through paimon, its getting annoying after 3-4 years
@Syiepherze
2 ай бұрын
I think with where the story is at rn, the real "bad guys" are the Abyss Order like they always have been. The Fatui are kind of in a gray area (but still bad) where they are trying to accomplish something for the greater good of the world but through nefarious actions
@Doro-bashi
2 ай бұрын
@@Syiepherze only problem it's that the abyss sibling got the LoF, and had accomplished what was looking for, so ... That sibling it's not gonna be an enemy to the MC, and the small memory wiped talk showed Yet there's the implication that the sibling it's inside the Irminsul tree and can only show a form, having ley lines disorders (possibly dead already), so yup, That sibling has high possibilities of helping MC, and also, who knows how, they can be reunited It makes no sense after a long time, and then they end making retcons like the "it's not one, it's 5 sinners" Duh, 4 years and now they got 5 guys that are "world treat" lvl, xD Those ATM are the closest thing to true "bad guys" on GI What's a story without a good villain?
@Tsukio2024
2 ай бұрын
Even just yesterday, when the genshin 4.8 patch pre-calculated primogems amounting to 48 limited pulls, the comments was so weird as how they downvoted their fellow players for asking why so few pulls and then they gang up on those fellows by so many comments. It is just too sad, that Genshin Fanbase is 😢
@thejikzter6782
2 ай бұрын
Played Genshin on launch, quit on the 1st anniversary. Realized that the devs don't actually care about the game and seeing how the playerbase devolved into a bunch of white knights that will attack you if you try to criticize the game, I immediately uninstalled and stayed away from that toxic community lmao
@skyhart9926
2 ай бұрын
What a genshit stan would tell you: “genshin is the best. you should have been grateful because the game is amazing and free.”
@FreeSp17
23 күн бұрын
Asked a genshin stan why it took mihoyo to implement all the player requests this past 4 years when there's a new competition. Their response? We should be grateful as it is finally implemented and that the Devs dint promise anything so we should not show a lot of expectation, the devs already have the current players request to change the player experience its just that mihoyo is waiting for the right moment this 4 years and we should not rush them. What a joke lol. 😂
@GameHunterDeathhunter
2 ай бұрын
The people who like genshin too much and hate just about everything else -don't play the game actively like an actual game, just do patches and events, then live on twitter for pvp and R34 -don't play games in general, if not they would know how bad genshin is as a game, its a tamagotchi with boobs
@xtentiong.f2537
2 ай бұрын
How is it that Hex here is now learning what *Chronologically online* is. This guy made a 10/10 vid.
@AleASanti-mw5wv
2 ай бұрын
some (a lot?) of players are children or too immature to not rain hate when their fav toy gets competition
@redrovaeden5143
2 ай бұрын
Literally one of the things my animation teacher taught me in school was "good artists copy, great artists steal". People act like saints saying copying bad, when people do it all the time. I don't see a lot of criticism when it comes to Fortnite, PubG, and Apex; or CSGO and Valorant. But I guess it's wrong when someone does it with a kid's game, what a load of bs.
@j4nk3n
2 ай бұрын
The very first human to ever draw an image was probably copying what their eyes saw, we have been copying things since the dawn of time and folks act so weird about it
@Brother_Zeke
2 ай бұрын
whats worse is when people think of a copy they see it as something inferior all together its like they dont see any bits of detail that x could be better on some aspects while y is better at some aspects which makes them similar but completely different
@apharys8921
2 ай бұрын
That's how the majority of business works, look at what's successful and do that but better. It might be cheap but who the hell cares when you're making millions of dollars.
@tp9516
2 ай бұрын
Well you clearly had an awful art teacher who should be fired. Have fun but you'll never churn out anything getting even close to bad ai art.
@Ka5him
2 ай бұрын
I don't really agree about the boomers (oldies, pioneers) being the ones dickriding hoyo and hates others from over achieving, more like they are the ones complaining the longest, got tired the most and just like you said, are the ones deprived of the QOL players right now are experiencing (if there are any) and probably just moved on. These stans are the year 1 to 2 players where they have so much content to do, loves the game and gets blinded the vast tasks ahead that they haven't experienced the drought, the lack of content vets do. They are swayed by the negativity of the minority of other game's fanbase and they feel attacked when their game is criticized, copied (but better) and not the best anymore.
@Certifiedfrogluvr
2 ай бұрын
I started playing Genshin in January of this year, and I love WuWa lol you don't even have to be a day 1 to see all the problems with Genshin, and don't get me wrong I still log in and play and do the story quests but ever since i started playing HSR a few months ago and now WuWa I have been able to see that Genshin is not the best of the best and definitely needs improvements, I personally love the story I know some people think its boring but that is the ONLY reason i keep playing lol, I don't even spend money on Genshin anymore because I just don't think that its a good enough game (gameplay wise) for me to invest in.
@Syiepherze
2 ай бұрын
Same. I only play Genshin for the story and lore lol. Hoyo's writers (not to mention their art and animation staff) are def cooking something in that regard and I can appreciate that
@botcchidotcchi
2 ай бұрын
I haven't log in genshin since 1 month ago, so hard for me to go back to that game. If they have new story I might just watch it on youtube
@elinamanansi5508
2 ай бұрын
I'm a day 1 gi player, been there when the first anni drama happened. And yeah, stand for gi won't make the game better. If you really love the game than you want it to be better. Most of the time those gi stand are f2p players that are happy enough that the game is free yet they forget hoyo need money for the game to keep going. Shut ppl up and told then to be grateful won't fix anything.
@JoLoAn135
2 ай бұрын
Regarding early day players and newer players for genshin, newer players have experienced less of the bad side of genshin impact. This means newer players experienced less bugs and optimizations issues because the game is already established. This is why i think these types of players are more "toxic" because they havent been with genshin since day 1 and made an assumption that the game had no problems in the start. I was "kinda" a day 1 genshin player. When it launched my samsung s9 had so much trouble running the game: stutters like hell, my phone would overheat, and the textures wouldnt load properly. After a few weeks i dropped the game because i didnt want to break my phone. I came back to genshin when the golden apple archipelago update arrived and the mobile experience was much better. But of course wuwa is experiencing the same problems and are not given the same treatment at all. I can write even more but dont want to turn this comment into a novel XD
@Komi1corno
2 ай бұрын
As a day 1 player of Genshin, i quit after Inazuma (some days before Raiden's banner i think) i just got disappointed by the story (that was the only thing that kept me at Mihoyo's mercy in the cold mines lmao), when you start playing, SPECIALLY if it's the first game you play of the genre, it's like the best thing in the world, what SAO games should be. But then you realize how it's gonna be and just quit playing or accept your fate, that's all there is to it
@nexcorvus7854
2 ай бұрын
Why do Wuwa players keep having anxiety over people who don't play Wuwa tho? I mean, there are tons of other games to play other than Genshin and Wuwa tho.
@weskervalentine7264
2 ай бұрын
i been playing genshin since day 1 and i lost the desire to play because the devs are mean to the community and not cool and the game has so many issues. wuthering waves just put the nail in the coffing. i had a cool acquaintance i have on PSN that i had been playing games with since the pandemic including genshin and they randomly asked if i was playing wuthering waves, i later realised because i have not played genshin with them for almost a month they put 2+2 together but when i told them "yes" and I said should try wuthering waves, they changed and got upset. they said "don't do this" and when i asked what they meant they said "your hurting the genshin community" which i found bizarre and i don't like being told what to do and we had an intense disagreement that day i realised how fragile our PSN friendship was, we don't talk anymore
@ezpezzy6487
2 ай бұрын
remember hacker issues in genshin there are a whole thread on reddit every single day peoples account getting hacked and when you asked hoyo and just happened that the hacker put money on your account you cant get your account back even if you have all the info about your account, for hoyo money above eveything. what a shitty company.
@ikkisenjuro3729
2 ай бұрын
Exactly this, people think WuWa bugs on launch are so broken but G bugs + account hacking on launch was so brutal back then. How many people didn't get their account back, even after providing so much info about their own account, and when they did they didn't even (or maybe barely, i don't remember) get any meaningful compensation. I can't fathom how these hoyo white knights defending them after what happened back then was literally data breaching which was very fatal for a big company like them.
@Man-sy2he
2 ай бұрын
I somehow feel that wuwa community is the one hated genshin so much to the point bringing up genshin in every argument, everytime I see people dislike something in wuwa they would argue by mentioning that genshin is worse, I mean the fact that genshin has flaw doesn't make the problem in wuwa solved
@LozanoMatt-kv4ng
2 ай бұрын
i do believe most wuwa players were genshin players and the mistreatment they experienced from genshin after wuwa has been kind to them is what costs it though for me its just fun to hate on genshin kekballs
@mellowvalentine9354
2 ай бұрын
Because we’re ex-genshin players.
@leojyagu6490
2 ай бұрын
What a disingenuous opinion to have. Umm kurogames have pgr before wuwa? bet most of them been fans and became part of the wuwa community since wuwas inception Genshin haters are haters of genshin day 1 or mostly disgruntled ex genshin players.
@freykiva3887
2 ай бұрын
I somehow agree with this just because of the experience I see within the community but I believe those are the same loud minority, possibly day 1 Genshin players like me. Though it's kinda annoying to see a WuWa content and them appreciating the game but can't hold themselves back into bringing genshin into the picture, personally I understand their hate but it's getting annoying, this is my feelings though, I just feel like I wish I could see more WuWa appreciation without bringing Genshin up, it kinda ruins it for me.
@Man-sy2he
2 ай бұрын
It's probably I see WuWa content more so I see less genshin player talking nonsense about WuWa and instead see a lot more of those people who keep bringing genshin unnecessarily, So it just how it looks to me
@benperry593
2 ай бұрын
Day one players are playing WuWa because it's what we've been waiting for for YEARS.
@Yoru...
2 ай бұрын
I don't think so, making because it's new. Give it 4 years and people will start dumping on this game like they did with genshin
@cyber2cyke
2 ай бұрын
Lol wait until Azure Promelia drops and this my game vs your game will continue
@ProSharpshooter
2 ай бұрын
Day 1 genshin player that fucked off around 3.5 and came back like 2 weeks ago to play with a friend at their request. I am only so critical of Genshin because I see its potential to be great, but that potential is held back by the dev team's repeated disrespect of their players and refusal to improve upon the foundation they've created. Instead their focus seems to want to be the gacha equivalent of Mario Party; it's maddening.
@zarafex-0923
2 ай бұрын
This isn't new, this happened with tower of fantasy and now it's happening with weathering waves. Anything that resembles genshine in any way is considered a genshine killer is hated.
@khalids6630
2 ай бұрын
wuwa players can still enjoy and watch genshin story in youtube. no need to play the game cause the game is basically anime with 3-5 new episode every 6months. no need to argue ok GENSHIN SLAVES keep climbing that mountain and SWIPE to use a character that will increase your exploration. keep your calendar on and make sure to set an alarm on which day to farm for this specific items. we wuwa players can farm ANYTIME. we will summon our slave pokemons to gather materials and vroom vroom using our lava bike
@wqi09
2 ай бұрын
TBF, no game deserve hate but the logic is: If people start hating on Genshin after WW released, it's not surprising if they're hating back on WW, isn't it? It's unavoidable.
@stryke42
2 ай бұрын
If you’re more gameplay than story, you won’t enjoy Nikke. You spend more time going through menus and story than you do actually playing the levels and there’s very little difference from all the fights. You’re either fighting trash mobs or doing a boss battle. Boss battles are very fun but there’s no reason to play a boss level more than once. You’re okay if you want to skip Nikke
@jamesmuhuhu7987
2 ай бұрын
I think these type people who are defending Genshin are already brainwashed into loving Genshin is because they have invested themselves completely into this game sentimentally and cannot separate themselves from it with even it's flaws...and when players from Genshin move to Wuwa and enjoy it more they feel their investment in Genshin attacked or in danger because they can not detach themselves from that part of their life into something new
@Syiepherze
2 ай бұрын
Hit the nail on the head, that's pretty much how I feel rn. I'm not a day one player but I started a few patches before Version 2.0 released, and have been playing on and off ever since (only coming back for story updates and events). I wouldn't say it's like being brainwashed though (at least for me), just being sentimentally/emotionally invested like you said. Like, let's say you're an anime fan and you haven't watched anything in a long time. Now there's this really popular seasonal that comes around and everyone's talking about it, and you decide to give it a shot because you have time. You fall in love with everything in the show and it's now the first anime you've been following religiously in a while. Suddenly the story takes a weird turn and other people really hate it now, and the hate amplifies over time. And now you're in this weird awkward position where it's embarrassing to admit you genuinely liked it despite its glaring flaws. So you find comfort by surrounding yourself with other fans with the same feelings as you (iykyk)
@jamesmuhuhu7987
2 ай бұрын
@@Syiepherze I totally get you... Attack on Titan comes into mind when you give such an example, without giving spoilers there's a huge plot twist towards it's end and alot of people have fallen off from it and think it's not the anime they fell in love with... But I still like it and I actually like the twist and it was also my second anime after Bleach so it holds a special place
@jamesmuhuhu7987
2 ай бұрын
@GlobalNikke-qx4wu depends on the perspective.... It could be the best at listening to their fanbase and listening to issues of quality of life and fixing as fast as possible... best at rewarding their playerbase for their continued support... Having the best gacha system in the market... Best gameplay.... The list is endless
@zeromailss
2 ай бұрын
If you like a game and play it enough you should be aware of its shortcomings more than anyone else so usually they are the ones that are more critical and maybe can even be perceived as negative or "hater" by some people While on the other hand, people who are too positive and even wage war for the billion dollar company are usually people who like the game a lot but are not aware or unwilling to admit to its shortcomings (most likely cuz lack of experience to compared to their experience with the game) and only focusing on the positive side while attacking other for giving constructive criticism for the betterment of the game and putting any negative opinion about the game and the dev in the same basket as a toxic or hate comment. For me personally, I played Genshin for 4 years, I love it, and I don't regret spending time and money on the game as I was enjoying my time with it but I'm more than aware of how stingy Hoyo is on top of all of the new update and content are mostly limited time event with a lack of end game or any long term content, in general, making me sad. I love the world, the music, and the characters and I build so many different characters and teams (45 lvl 90 chara with lvl 9-10 talent) but there is nowhere to use them. Combat events are like once or twice every patch and those lasted 30 minutes or so on top of Abyss reset every two weeks which is also about 30 minutes to clear at most. The overworld is beyond easy and the reward for exploration is pisspoor despite the game is build around it. QoL update is beyond slow and some never make it in the game after the player requests it for 4 years (artifact loadout, by now almost all of my chara have their own artifact but different teams/builds still need to switch them out smh my head) Wuthering Waves in comparison is such a breath of fresh air, not in the game itself but in the dev and how they handle criticism and their willingness to listen and have conversation with their player. The game feels very similar to Genshin in almost every way but with unique Combat system and amazing QoL on day one. Yes, it is more buggy than genshin at launch but the game is improving and it is very apparent that the dev are listening and then doing something about it either the very next day with a hotfix or making the player base aware that they are working on a fix and deploying it on major update like 1.1 patch. edit: Some criticism for WW to balance things out. I find WW music to be rather lacking, some of them are decent but most of them are meh especially compared to their previous title PGR. Most people either use PGR music or even Genshin or other games like DMC OST instead of Wuwa OST in their showcase and it fits so well. Even non-SSR chara have a whole ass OST theme in PGR and they sound fckin amazing. Oh and despite rewriting and changing the story I still find the majority of the early game to be super boring that I skip most of them. The English VA quality is a mixed bag, even the JP VA isn't that good. The translation quality is terrible (where tf is the QC!?) But other than that I love it.
@springonions5114
2 ай бұрын
Genshin boomer, near Day 1 player, here. My friends and I have been all critical of hoyo ever since the beginning, yet we still played for years. We're enjoying wuwa now, but we still go to genshin just to do comms and events for primos.
@apharys8921
2 ай бұрын
Competition breeds innovation. Wuthering Waves being successful can only be good for Genshin players. Assuming Hoyo wants to keep making money from Genshin. 🙄 People either don't understand this or have invested so much of their life into one video game that the idea of their game - their *life* - becoming obsolete terrifies them.
@BimbiDawg
2 ай бұрын
Im a day 1 player in Genshin i stop playing almost 2 years now, i try to play it again last month but I can't bring myself to explore the map maybe it's just me i don't know
@AyumuTheTamer
2 ай бұрын
I started playing Genshin on the PS4 at around a month or 2 after initial release… it was pretty stable on it, no mayor issues… the reason I did not play it constantly up to version 2.4 is due to my own personal time. Now… I did play WuWa first on mobile… and I was one of the few that was blessed with a stable experience on mobile… This stopped as soon as I moved to PC… and I am still having a few crashes up to this day. I don’t hate WuWa and I am looking forward to continuing the story… but it still needs to be optimize. Note: I did not see something wrong in terms of the rewards in Genshin since most of the Gatcha’s I’ve played have been pretty bear bones in terms of rewards… Don’t get me wrong I am happy with the amount of rewards HSR and WuWa give (free stuff is always good), but I never expect every game to be that generous due to my luck in Gatcha’s… which is why I mostly stayed free to play on most free to play games🤔
@elfireii328
2 ай бұрын
Nikke is a very story focused game. The gameplay itself is fun to me because its basically a glorified aim trainer with aboba and butts, but its also pretty much a numbers game if you want to progress more.
@devilkazumi578
2 ай бұрын
They helped out a lot in the last update they made overload gear give more battle power
@DIGITALD3CK5
2 ай бұрын
As a day one genshin player who's still loving Wuwa and basking in the excitement of competition breeding improvements. This is great, Genshin needed to get knocked off their throne. This should be nothing but W's for both communities and Idk why people could even be upset right now.
@KingShado69
2 ай бұрын
Coming from a lot of Gacha games back when genshin was released, I had really high hopes for it, the game had potential and it was the first of its kind, I finished mondstadt and lyiue and was spamming domains waiting for dragonspine. It was fun and I have met tons of people in that game just helping out new players. The first anniversary was so dogshit that I joined the reviewbombing on the playstore and still was disappointed after the shit rewards we got but still, there was no other rpg like genshin to play. I took 2 more years of getting cucked until the 3 wish incident where I just uninstalled, I will never support hoyoverse in any way no matter what game they make.
@dogcesyng3210
2 ай бұрын
Nikke the game I went in for the "plot" but stayed for the actual plot
@doubled99218
2 ай бұрын
Nikke is goated
@Felixglacius
2 ай бұрын
I am a 1.0 player, and I spent thousands of dollars and hours on Genshin. I agree Genshin needs tons of improvements even still to this day, but I won't talk trash about any other game or defend it lol.
@trashaimgamer7822
2 ай бұрын
I honestly didn't even know about WuWa until some WuWa fanbois flooded Genshin video comments and I was like dafug ya'll on about go play your game if it's better then. Like I would never go to WuWa videos saying stuff like "baa WuWa is just a Genshin clone!". Like why would I say that when Genshin itself is a BotW clone?
@Diamond1234
2 ай бұрын
Both sides are rabid fanbase, the WuWa fanbase are either people who used to play Genshin and feel burnt out and want to air out their problems with Genshin while going with a new game or new players that want it to be better than Genshin Impact. We have Genshin players that feel the need to put down WuWa players because they are new and constantly compare it to Genshin in every way even thought they are different and say Genshin is way better, ignoring the fact that it's a new game while Genshin literally has had years to improve (we don't talk about how the first event in Genshin cost RESIN to claim your rewards and play it while the cap of resin was 120 where it's 200 (newly after WuWa released) now a days). Honestly, I think both games are perfectly fine and should stand on their own, and hopefully act as their own competition so BOTH work hard for players attention. But anyway, yeah, you right lol, both are obsessed with hating the other game, it's kinda funny, if pretty sad.
@trashaimgamer7822
2 ай бұрын
@@Diamond1234 Well the problem with Genshin is that it is kinda a product of it's time. It was a first pitch of concept for a mobile exploration game and it was made with the available mobile technology in mind. So I don't think there's much that can be done to improve the core gameplay unless they completely overhaul the engine, at which point some peoples devices might not be able to run it anymore.
@I-MAC
2 ай бұрын
I've been playing Genshin since patch 3.8 and now I enjoy playing both. For old players there is nothing else to do in Genshin except wait for resin so I have plenty of time in Wuthering Wave. I don't hate Genshin but the developer.
@carlosalvarezruiz9351
2 ай бұрын
You should try Nikke 300%. that game is so much more than fanservice (every gacha game has its levels of fanservice) The story is amazing, the BGM f*king slaps, the gameplay may look too easy but in late game became really hard, the events are really nice, and the gacha system is one of the most generous. I'm playing it since January and I already have 75 over 100 SSR characters (5 stars) in the game, completelly free to play
@f.b.l.9813
2 ай бұрын
from the looks of it, the most die-hard genshin defenders aren't around in patch v1.x, they only played after Inazuma or even later, in Sumeru or Fontaine.
@Lewa500
2 ай бұрын
Genshin blatantly copied Zelda. No, it wasn't "inspired", it straight up copy-pasted creatures, landscapes, and mechanics from that game.
@buttermuk7896
2 ай бұрын
When encore guide from the #1 encore main
@window2000x
2 ай бұрын
Why is he wearing sunglasses in door?
@Clourie
2 ай бұрын
Genshin Day 1 players understand that wuwa solve everything genshin lack of. After 3rd year laterm rite, its all over for me. From semi quit to full quit. The only thing that will make me semi quit back is Yoimiya skin, which is probably will not happen, i heard its Nilou skin next. 6 month for a skin is stupid. Sincerely hope genshin dead with more open world game coming soon. Project Mugen, Azur Promilia, Arknight Endfield 🎉
@nifLefty
2 ай бұрын
I'm going to be real, most of the time I've heard about you was bad so I decided to watch some of your videos and honestly I don't get it 💀, this is why I make it a mission to try anything even if people say its horrendous, like Wuthering Waves, everyone was shitting on it since even before it came out, when it released I was like "I'm going to play the whole day today if it really is that bad then I'm not going to be playing it" and honestly it really wasn't, obviously there was a lot of shit going on but that was the same when I tried Genshin on it's release, except it took so long for them to fix it by the time I came back to the game it was already 3.1 🤣but I still ended up liking the game because of the fixed stuff, either way, please instead of just listening to what others say just try it out yourself, everyone was preaching that Tectone was this horrible piece of shit human being so I started watching him to see how much of a piece of shit he was and he was the most down to earth person I've seen in the gacha space community so far 💀it's made me understand that people will hate for absolutely no reason other than the fact that they don't give a shit
@glovs4188
2 ай бұрын
Dude is correct though. Im 27 y.o im like in the middle generation. And the young generation being woke, entitled, soft and lazy is 100%, at least the majority are. I remember being brought up military school style where my parents are super strict, i got hammered when i did hammer worthy shit and at the same i see my parents going through hell everytime i get hospitalised and genuinely caring and loving me.
@absolutelyabsolute4671
2 ай бұрын
It challenges the status quo, it's currently happening with the AAA sectof
@TheSkiznod
2 ай бұрын
7:27- To quote Daigo Umehara in his book "The will to keep winning", You DON'T own your strategies.
@ryuk6795
2 ай бұрын
Genshin community cant accept that fanbase can be treated with respect by devs
@TRemIk42
2 ай бұрын
I remember when i was searching for chests because the game was fun, but there was nothing else to do… and then we wanted to go to Inasuma.. but we got a shitty cold mountain and everyone without a Bennet, was having looooots of fun with this never again used weather mechanic ^^. There was and still is way too much dead time, for a game with the shortest gameplay loops. (Not even saying this to compare gacha games).
@zedeon6299
2 ай бұрын
Because wuwa giving away high quality character it will devalues genshin mid character
@FreeSp17
23 күн бұрын
Asked a genshin stan why it took mihoyo to implement all the player requests this past 4 years when there's a new competition. Their response? We should be grateful as it is finally implemented and that the Devs dint promise anything so we should not show a lot of expectation, the devs already have the current players request to change the player experience its just that mihoyo is waiting for the right moment this 4 years and we should not rush them. What a joke lol. 😂.
@toukoenriaze9870
2 ай бұрын
Firefly cheating ngl -cool mech -cute girl -sadge moments too many different players xD
@medellouze5853
2 ай бұрын
To be honest, most of them are afraid,afraid that they lose member of their community to this new game..they just being defensive to the game that threaten their safe space.. I empathize with them more then anything , not saying what they doing is normal but they defenitly still young and unexperienced
@davidcosta1586
2 ай бұрын
Kinda late and on the generation topic but for me (born in 2004 so im gen z i think) the worst part of "generation wars" is that i get labeled based on when i was born, which is kinda retarded, but for me i dont like to be placed on a group of people cuz both sides get good points and bad points, i just go for what i like. I would say the best example would be the games i play really shows im more of an younger guy and play more recent games and even gachas which would point for the most recent generation but then when we are talking about using tiktok or those dogshit memes like skibiddi or however that shit is spelled, i really just don't associate with xD.
@LUCAS420BLZ
2 ай бұрын
10:48 I agree to some extent I believe genshin suffered from the whole vocal minority thing too Until I kept seeing the same stuff over and over with hundreds of thousands of likes and millions of views People actually believe and think this way social media just highlights it We cannot just brush past it and forgive it like they're helpless animals that dont know better They're intentionally inflammatory to anyone and that's why they have the reputation they do
@X862go
2 ай бұрын
Remember Ben Franklin Didn't Discover Electricity he copied it.
@blueberry7478
2 ай бұрын
All HOYOVERSE games have one thing in common: "whalling" 🤑 You can clear all contents easily by paying $, drinking the hardest boss HP like water. surprisingly, this is not the case for Kuro games. Max out the characters does mean you beat the Boss. You have to pull out your skills also. I saw Rexlent (on of the top PGR CC) struggling despite having the characters at full power.
@davidweaver4436
2 ай бұрын
Day 1 Genshin player here. Played until the most recent "3 years 3 wishes" fiasco. I fully burned out and quit there. I'd been having issues with the game for a while, but I kinda wanted to see how the story played out and at the very least collect all the archons... but after the "3 wishes" incident I just said enough is enough and quit. The lack of meaningful combat content. The obnoxious relic rng. Poorly designed characters (Xinyan, Dehya, etc.). Lack of generosity or giving back to their playerbase. I'm now having fun with WuWa's combat, though we'll see if the echo system burns me out in the long run...
@latitude990
2 ай бұрын
The neuroplasticity analogy still works, he just didn't frame it very clearly. It's really easy for someone that's an expert in a field (or has a ton of hours experience with something, like playing a game) to instantly point out when a review isn't being fair. This is also evident when you observe someone that doesn't have a passion for the subject they are talking about... making a review after 10 hours is such a joke (even the IGN review after 30-40 hours was like 20% complete ffs)
@currentlyvibing9916
2 ай бұрын
There’s such a common misconception between “copying” and “inspiration” It’s become quite annoying
@angelafrench3780
2 ай бұрын
Was Day 1 player and left during Inazuma. Gameplay became stale and story was just ok to me. I like the character design to a point, but i appreciate the art and combat in Wuthering Waves better. Just need better echo system, better story, and a little more ways to earn money lol
@YaToGamiKuro
2 ай бұрын
as an ex cod player that recently moves to rainbow six, it is actually very true, at first i play it like call of duty and i loss a lot, by what i mean is, i never win a single gun fight, never contribute anything, but after sometime, i learnt that the game mechanic is very more indepth than call of duty that is blindly running around and shooting on sight
@carlosalbertogarciajimenez5879
2 ай бұрын
OG video is 13 minutes and her reaction is 32 minutes. Learning from the great balding dude :v
@francisxavier8374
2 ай бұрын
reality is, they're all gacha games people are fighting over which glorified slot machine parlor serves the better appetizer sandwiches but i am curious which happened first, genshin cultists hating on wuwa or wuwa cultists hating on genshin players that being said, remember to like and subscribe the gacha advertisers that tell you the things that justify your feelings and to spend your money on the game to fight against the people you hate!
@maloyyy19
2 ай бұрын
yk by this point i dont even care if genshin fans hate wuwa. 🤣🤣 I feel like hating on a game like wuwa is beneficial not only to the game but to the playerbase too because the devs are listening, same goes for HSR I guess. but point is, what do you think will happen when people starts to hate on a game like genshin? where the devs have been shown to not give a f*ck. 😂😂😂 of course, genshin fans arent comfortable, problems from years ago are being highlighted and is shown to not have any resolution at all. also, Im a day 1 genshin fan too 1st anniversary was the deal breaker for me but I continued to play for the story, I'm only occasionally going back to genshin for archon quest and even then I have decided not to go back at all in the future and just watch ashikai summarize the stories for me.
@terrencetang6684
2 ай бұрын
As my observe, i think it is not a one side hatred though...
@dtariushale2511
Ай бұрын
Saying wuwa is a genshin copy because it's an open world anime game is like saying Honkai star rail is just a copy of Pokemon games because it's a turn based RPG..... These people make no logical sense.
@ZeroDeath.666
2 ай бұрын
Na genshin players are crazy they are cult.
@Happy-ye2lj
2 ай бұрын
I don't think the day one players are the one who are defending genshin. Why? If you are day one players that means they knew that there was a game coming so they were in gaming community even before they played genshin. Why is this point relevent, because that is my experience. I think genshin is the only game that is so accessible. Free and on mobile. So the ones who never played any other game got into gaming through games that look like this, AAA levels of games. I was one of them, genshin was the only game that was an 3d openworld rpg I could play because of limitations like money and hardware. Then i got a cheap laptop and pirated elden ring. Even after playing that game for just 2 days my mind was completely changed. Even 2 days is too long, first 20 mins started to change my mind. Now i am 100 hrs in. Playing other games i started to realise things that genshin is doing wrong intentionally. And that is waht i think the genshin defenders don't have. The experience of playing a game that respects you some way, either the time, money or intelligence. OR they are in too deep too much time or money Edit: i misstook the point but i think what i said still stands.
@mariamkjm7349
2 ай бұрын
28:19 you can just copy your main gear to your new character and ask a friend or guild member to get u to lvl 61 in like 40 min in bdo (or do it yourself in like 4 hours+-), but the problem is not the gear but the fact that in genshin you have like 2 skills while in bdo a character will take u a week or more just to learn the basic, but hey u can at least try the character for free how long u want u dont need to buy it like in genshin, but i guess we have different preference bcs i am someone that liked to play on one character even in genshin so i have no problem in bdo on my sorc ♥ My main issues with genshin is there is no content to do after a month (yeah i am not casual but also not a hardcore player) I cant even say i am playing genshin, bcs login for 10 min a day (at max) is not playing a game ^-^ Just my opinion
@Lunathean
2 ай бұрын
Day ZERO Genshin player here(Was into the concept of Genshin before anyone really knew what the game was) Also was one of the first players to log into the server too, Lowkey never saw the hype and got annoyed with the game after awhile and never looked back. I did 100% everything that was available in the game within the first month or so, Anyone who is talking like Genshin is this holy grail game is just coping hard!
@teddybearclarence
2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the hate, I play all of them and enjoy myself...
@ProkerKusaka
2 ай бұрын
The problem is both communities have part of not very smart people. Genshin has weird part of "hardcore" players who for some reason play a casual game for FOUR years and realized that genshin is a casual game just now And wuwa has weird part of "if some bugs were in other games many decades ago it means there is no problems in wuwa" for some reason So both this parties hide their stupidity behind "well akshually☝🤓 in other game..." like its make current problems disapper in chosen game Both games have goods and bads but this people pointing for not relevant problems for some reason like expecting genshin to be hardcore game or wuwa being "blend copy of genshin" Ofc it is just one example from many
@roadhouse98ej
2 ай бұрын
Hex i want to say i am happy to know you are a psych student im still learning but its awesome to hear that you are as well and great video too
@Christionbridges
Ай бұрын
Isn’t it a old game and new players get nothing to catch up
@Malix2238
2 ай бұрын
most day 1 players quit Genshin, i am quite sure its the newer players who are defending it, the zoomers, not boomers.
@OldManInternet
2 ай бұрын
As someone who has been around for a couple of these, the newer generation is definitely worse lol. But it's tough to be too critical, because I have the unfair advantage of being from the objectively best generation. But I will grant that millennials are a cut above Gen Z/skibbdy toilet generation. But just like with the boomers that fucked everything up before us, millennials are also a downgrade from the obvious pinnacle generation that sits at the head of the table, and that's Gen X.
@EtherealRune
2 ай бұрын
I mean.. just watch what's going on out there? People being delusional about their gender, being offended by everything, zoomer humor that's not clever in the slightest, music that's mostly either cover-songs from the 80's and 90's or minimum-effort-made. The newer generation definitely has declinded.
@animeoeshonikako730
2 ай бұрын
I remember posting a comment on a wuwa video talking about my positive experience with it, while explaining the god awful luck I had in genshin causing me to burn out as well since I had no new characters to grind for. This genshin stan kept on replying really cringe hateful @$$ comments telling me that me always hitting hard pity and losing a 50/50 was just a skill issue, and told me how I am playing a game that stole from genshin. I told this cring stan that genshin stole assets from breath of the wild, and BOOM they had the audacity to say “you just added to me point! You’re playing wuwa that stole from genshin, and genshin stole from zelda, you’re playing a stolen stolen game! Also idc if genshin stole from zelda, I care that wuwa stole from genshin.” This cringe person was a complete hypocrite, and blew my mind how much brain rot does to a fandom.
@allytank-itykitty7417
2 ай бұрын
I stopped after Hu Tao came out, stopped for a while then came back at the end of sumera, game is pretty fun. tried WuWa, its good but prefer Genshin the art style is more appealing and the characters are just better to me, maybe they will bring out other characters but Genshin just has good stories and good characters for me so will stay with it, play both but only Genshin daily.
@Based_nargacuga
2 ай бұрын
day one player here, the game is no better than washing the pots, chores that aren't fun but must be completed. at least something good comes from actual chores
@gemthemage
2 ай бұрын
only reason why genshin fans hate wuwa i caues they know it a good game and rn better and more fun than genshin and they cant take the fact that they have to leave the game they spent so much time on to play a new game. just fking play the game and have fun miserable fks
@toopided
2 ай бұрын
As a day 1 GI player, I gotta say GI is just a shit with their lack of content as what the stans are saying now. Back then, horrible interface, horrible qol, tons of bugs, etc. Why do these clowns constantly cherry pick 4 years worth of positive updates onto a less than 6 months old game? I know its sad and depressing to be playing GI but come on... seek help man.
@xrosslegends1279
2 ай бұрын
I'm a day 1 player and I still love the game, but I'm also a casual, I always have to speed run the events on the last days, and I consume the story through watching let's plays at 2 times speed, altho I watch everything at two times speed, except anime episodes. But I also multi task a lot and end up wasting too much time so I can't focus on just playing the game, most of of my characters are underleveled, but that's my fault for not doing the minimum amount of grinding.
@sleepingrrandom2876
2 ай бұрын
Mf's will go "Don't compare new game to old game!!" but will compare the latest patch of an old game to a new game like 😂
@komgoo4974
2 ай бұрын
Am I the only one seeing more Genshin hate than wuthering waves. I can't say that I prefer Genshin in any forum without being called a pe*o, weirdo, misogynist whatever it is.
@urnarafiel2806
2 ай бұрын
Genshin simply hated by everybody, not only wuwa fanbase
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