Why does they talk about PAC-MAN like this when g&w exists
@scattr7592
4 жыл бұрын
Because they already talked about g&w 🙄
@xackk9198
4 жыл бұрын
Preach.
@snaxa163
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@vaports6984
4 жыл бұрын
Yoshi!!
@lucasliam8238
4 жыл бұрын
G&W has to much invincibility and speed. Up b is invincible and leads to his strong aerial game. Basically I don’t like him because people always give him free buckets and he is the perfect counter to hero.
@Royy2004
4 жыл бұрын
Wait people hate Pac-Man?
@goreobsessed2308
4 жыл бұрын
Some do every character has haters
@stoked-6996
4 жыл бұрын
I know right? Who doesn't love pacman? He's so fun :(
@Molten2004
4 жыл бұрын
@@stoked-6996 I hate Duck Hunt
@stoked-6996
4 жыл бұрын
@@Molten2004 his stupid laugh >:(
@Molten2004
4 жыл бұрын
@@stoked-6996 Ikr. And everyone who plays him just camps
@SoshiTheYoshi
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man: Is constantly criticized because people use bonus fruit Luigi: Gets off the hook for spamming grab combos and up b
@Nic_2751
4 жыл бұрын
Wait until he pulls out the golden fruit.......
@kieranstark7213
2 жыл бұрын
I think Luigi and Pac-Man are badass characters, they even collaborated in the Mario Kart Arcade GP VR predecessors!
@ketchupdragon73x
Жыл бұрын
@@kieranstark7213 Sadly, Pac-Man himself is actually absent in Mario Kart Arcade GP VR. He was in the Arcade GP games prior to VR.
@kieranstark7213
Жыл бұрын
@@ketchupdragon73x I know. 😢
@setsers1
10 ай бұрын
Hypocrisy!
@callinater6133
4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t noticed much pac hate since g&w seems to be taking all the heat
@giveittomebaybe5112
4 жыл бұрын
Mr g and dubya is a dick and if i saw him in public id tell it to his face
@callinater6133
4 жыл бұрын
give it to me baybe you mean maister? Come on man. Hating the character is one thing. Hating the player is another. Cut maister some slack. He’s a good guy.
@giveittomebaybe5112
4 жыл бұрын
@@callinater6133 ha nah man just mr game and watch as a character. I was trying to be funny
@callinater6133
4 жыл бұрын
give it to me baybe oh ok, that’s fine. Some people on Twitter have been harassing him a lot lately which is unfortunate.
@arachnofiend2859
4 жыл бұрын
That's because the best Pac-Man is Tea, who's Japanese and only shows up for the biggest NA tournaments, and the best G&W is Maister, who's Mexican and is in the Top 8 of basically every important NA tournament. The American crowd sees a lot more good G&W than we see good Pac-Man
@w_alderson21
4 жыл бұрын
ProGuides: Why does everyone hate Pac-Man? Me: ...People hate Pac-Man?
@gilbert64
3 жыл бұрын
I think that too
@edwardgamerx9061
3 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate pac man and people who use him and SPAM LIKE IDIOTS may have something wrong in they're sad and mediocre lives
@SuperTone
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardgamerx9061 yeesh
@Blockoumi
3 жыл бұрын
I never see pac man spam. His projectiles aren’t even spammable
@KaiPacMan
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because I like playing as Pac-Man even in General
@BobsonQDugnutt
4 жыл бұрын
“Pac-Man isn't a zoner LMAO. He's a free style trap character. Noobs won't know the difference.” ~Sinji
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
See, that's what I keep saying, but Pac being a pure zoner is a misconception that a lot of people vehemently stand behind.
@Ban-zx9se
4 жыл бұрын
I mean that's just one of his playstyles, since he has a pretty great defense and a slightly worse but still amazing offense you can play him either way and still get really good results.
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ban-zx9se Tea shows this even more clearly. He isn't afraid to go in and play agressive.
@avet4952
4 жыл бұрын
@@vick7868 Tea is a fucking mad lad jesus christ, I dont mind sinji but tea is just so aggro its entertaining
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@avet4952 You saw his sets against Marss and Zackray? The man is absolutely mental, which is showcased in those sets perfectly.
@Minister_of_Magic_1997
4 жыл бұрын
I actually really like pac-man. I don’t even play him. But I love playing against him. It’s really fun.
@Fenyll_Fur
4 жыл бұрын
Just like how, while many people hate the MU, some people really enjoy playing against Snake. Both of them have their own game plan that, to succeed, you need to work around. And that's fun for some people.
@Minister_of_Magic_1997
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Riggio I main megaman, so the Pac-Man vs Megaman match up is really interesting because both characters can cancel out each other projectiles, both can easily gain access the the hydrant, etc...
@hodstrat3722
4 жыл бұрын
@@Minister_of_Magic_1997 yeah, plus the way megaman can interact with pac man hydrant can open many ways to avoid ledge traps and punish. Players of today prefer to blame everything and everyone rather than trying to learn something from these MUs
@MrFish-dc1zm
4 жыл бұрын
Pathos Fitness the hate is pretty stupid, I think zoners are very interesting and fun to watch and to hate on someone just because they don’t like the character, is just petty and sad to see
@sevencool2266
4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say this is my favorite part about the comment section because it actually have me insight much more than proguids will ever achieve
@politecat7866
4 жыл бұрын
“Why everyone hates pac-man” Tea and Sinji: :/
@everythinghurts5853
4 жыл бұрын
watch the video
@Dimsii
4 жыл бұрын
Polite Cat Also DylanNoPancakes: :/
@umekomashimotoromero7451
4 жыл бұрын
Oooooh we hate people with hands,srry for not play Joker or K .Rol boy
@gilbert64
3 жыл бұрын
everyone who plays with pac man: :/
@LinneRinne
4 жыл бұрын
"We gotta be more specific this time" Yeah, not ranting the character this time, thanks.
@Noojtxeeg
4 жыл бұрын
Ummm pretty sure people love seeing Pac Man in games, especially Tea. Literally every video that includes Tea, has everyone rooting for him and praising how fun he is to watch.
@atlasgalor3583
4 жыл бұрын
Noot but people hate facing him, one notable person that really hates pac-man is Muteace, he literally started ranting and raging on his twitter because he lost to tea horribly, and there isn’t anything wrong with hating a character because personally as a pac-man main, i hate many characters and that’s normal
@Alibaba-id1cs
4 жыл бұрын
Noot actually there r plenty of haters for Pac-Man let alone everyone. ESAM hates Pac-Man and the fact that he would just run away the whole match and set up moves to kill u with mostly projectiles is annoying. Not knowing how to counter Pac-Man is hard. U got to learn the mu better just so u can hate Pac-Man less
@charlescoates636
4 жыл бұрын
F A C T S. Tea is a big reason why i work hard on getting better with Pac-man.
@jusbetter7634
4 жыл бұрын
Also Pacman is the "big brain" mascot
@arachnofiend2859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Alibaba-id1cs Maybe if ESAM complained less and learned matchups more he'd stop getting dunked on by Tea and Maister lol
@bruce4139
4 жыл бұрын
When I play pac man (only in 8 player smash) I just become a stage hazard
@ectior
4 жыл бұрын
What a long way to say “git gud”
@4xzx4
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol.
@amestrisgone
4 жыл бұрын
git gud is 100% a scrub take "getting gud" doesnt make a character more enjoyable to fight
@stepixel7215
4 жыл бұрын
I get why everyone hates Pac-Man, but I still going to play as him because: 1. I like the character 2. Smash was never suppose to be a competitive esport that label each character by tiers 3. You use every strategy to win the game
@peregrinehawk8363
3 жыл бұрын
I can respect that. Yes I am a Corrin main why do you ask?
@natdaone5075
4 жыл бұрын
*8:46* That PAC-MAN mix up was god tier.
@swiddhi
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is the full power of Tea.
@powa1684
4 жыл бұрын
That's when Tea's brain passes from 10% to 11%
@not_myosotis813
4 жыл бұрын
i don't think it's a mix up, ledge galaxian is a pac combo tea made back in smash 4. hella cool combo that means you have to just respect him at ledge.
@CookieGal-
4 жыл бұрын
"Characters without projectiles usually have great hitboxes" *Cries in aerial Little Mac*
@gamesforted
4 жыл бұрын
“Why does everyone hate Pac-Man?” That’s a sentence I never thought I’d hear... ever
@captainknuckles875
4 жыл бұрын
I love pac man, i dont main him but i love going against him because his play style is different. Plus if you manage to get a KO with his own hydrant...oh its satisfying.
@tjz3158
3 жыл бұрын
It's annoying when I do die to my own hydrant but I always give my opponent my respect for managing to catch me off guard with it.
@slitchey
4 жыл бұрын
Olimar and GaW seem to be much more hated than pacman
@brandonstarstorm3289
4 жыл бұрын
“The bell did all the work for Pac-Man!” Me: “The sword did all of the work for Chrom.”
@justafurret122
4 жыл бұрын
@Nadell Hit The Yeet The controller did all for the player.
@japhreal
4 жыл бұрын
If olny we have that bell in pac man world series
@jonathanm7550
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao that cpu bowser couldn’t even touch young link. Rip cpu bowser :(
@Noname-fb1mm
4 жыл бұрын
Fawful's minion: *Allow me to introduce myself.*
@systemofachemicalnir
4 жыл бұрын
How to defeat pac-man “Hey, is that a platform?” Congrats you defeated pac-man
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
That really isn't a huge problem for Pac-Man. A good player can make some crazy setups using them.
@systemofachemicalnir
4 жыл бұрын
Vivek Tarkunde a good player can also mix up approaches using the platforms as a way to dodge 50-70% of his kit. If I’m playing a Pac-Man on level with my skill full usage on a close stage is my go to, then again my main has more than 4 kill setups
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@systemofachemicalnir and on platforms I as a Pac-Main have more than 4 setups that each effectively cover almost every option anyone has to get back to the stage from ledge. Pac has the tools to work on basically any stage in the right hands. And on that note, his kit is way more extensive for stuff like this than I think you may know.
@spades5713
4 жыл бұрын
Platforms only really make using Galaxian harder. Otherwise nothing changes. In fact, Pac Man can also use the platforms to camp.
@not_myosotis813
4 жыл бұрын
@@vick7868 yeah apple into hydrant sends it right up there lol
@shybaka2892
4 жыл бұрын
Because people don’t have a Galaxy Brain to understand the power of PAC-MAN.
@justyouraveragegamer6986
4 жыл бұрын
Peeps: pac man sucks Me:the 1980 chopper Is a God
@ethanplanas2740
4 жыл бұрын
Legit, a good pac man is scary to play against. The round starts, they combo you right off the stage, and I'm just stuck wondering how the bell two framed me at the ledge. I just can't understand it 😂
@Adam-to5xu
4 жыл бұрын
Pac man honeztly
@mintystingmoon4787
4 жыл бұрын
small brain no like big brain
@NeatoBurrito05
4 жыл бұрын
Only tea
@thewinkersshow575
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man is too big brain to hate
@hailjigglypuff4771
4 жыл бұрын
I like his Key and Fire Hydrant. It always keeps me on my toes when facing him.
@Aflay1
4 жыл бұрын
No one hates Pac-man But he’s one of the more frustrating zoners. Let me put it this way: Pac will humiliate and frustrate you, but he’ll look so cool doing it that you can’t stay mad at him. Ironically, it’s not the Bell, but the Orange that frustrates players. So easy to gimp with Orange. So easy to get hit by Orange since it charges quick and comes out fast. Think PK Fire. If you couldn’t catch or reflect Orange so easily, it’d be one of the best neutral projectiles. It basically nullifies characters that don’t have a good recovery. Think Wolf’s lazer. It’s that useful. Hydrant can be mildly annoying, but like Kirby’s down special, it’s easy to punish, and can even give you the upper hand if they throw it senselessly. I would say people only hate Pac-Man if they don’t understand him. He’s not quite as frustrating as other zoners since his kit is so diverse, and all the jank he is capable of is interesting instead of boring or repetitive.
@manongraymond5481
4 жыл бұрын
" hydrant, easy to punish " no it isn't lol, PAC players usually do a bair on the hydrant, then do up B or get fruit behind it. It forces you to jump over it, or attack it, or let the Pac-Man do anything. Lol.
@chickenalakingina
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, people were complaining about Pac-man?? I only remember people complaining about the top tiers like pichu and wolf, but I would have never expected this.
@Revan1207
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man is a high to top tier... Plus he's heavily camp dependent, so it's not surprising people hate on him.
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@Revan1207 not really. His projeciles aren't as spammable as someone like Samus or Young Link, and he does his best work by utilizing his insane mixup potential and weird tech, only camping behind Hydrant to buy some time or deploying it as a get-off-me move.
@Revan1207
4 жыл бұрын
@@vick7868 Not as spammable doesn't mean he's not a campy character lol. He plays keep away with projectiles, hydrant, and his absurdly good aerials. I'm not condemning it, but trying to rationalize that he's not a hardcore zoner is hysterical.
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@Revan1207 except it really isn't. A hardcore zoner is someone reliant on having spammable projectiles hence my earlier examples of Samus and Yink. His absudly good aerials that you mention are not meant to keep people away, they are the literal exact opposite: combo tools that can be used in conjunction with his Galaxian, Apple, Cherry or Strawberry to extend said combos. So no, he is not a "hardcore zoner". He is more of a weird mix between a zoner, trapper, and bait-and-punish character with great potential for on and offstage pressure both up close and from afar. Sorry for the late as hell reply, I just stumbled on this again bc quarantine is boring.
@nowayactuallybrohwat
4 жыл бұрын
Wait what the hell? I love Pac-man, he was the first character i played as in smash 4, still use him in ultimate to this day.
@statik9818
4 жыл бұрын
He is not a circle he is a sphere that is why everyone hates him
@stefanbond4170
4 жыл бұрын
Pacman just be misunderstood by most people. He is arguably one of the hardest and most technical characters to play in the game. The more people come to understand him and just how much work is required to play him decently then the less hate he'll get imo. As a pacman main I've played online and have had people kick me from their arenas just for playing him. The amount of hate some characters get is ridiculous.
@Greeds_
4 жыл бұрын
i dropped olimar for all the hate people online and friends gave me even after his nerfs
@stefanbond4170
4 жыл бұрын
@@Greeds_ I'm really sorry to hear that. A part of me feels like there's always been this sort of pressure by the community to not play certain characters because if you do play them then apparently your automatically hated for it and some people actually link the character with the person and calling them stuff and that's just not right imo.
@stefanbond4170
4 жыл бұрын
@@Greeds_ I think you should pick olimar back up if you still want to. The people that are hating on him you can just ignore. Try not to let other people ruin your enjoyment of the game. The way I see it is that your just giving them more experience with facing olimar but if they refuse to fight just because of that then their not gonna get better on how to deal with him.
@Greeds_
4 жыл бұрын
@@stefanbond4170 its fine, I've moved onto joker to spite those same people. I secondary sheik so i can beat them when they say joker carries me
@stefanbond4170
4 жыл бұрын
@@Greeds_ Well that's good to hear then👍
@josesoto1219
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly enjoy watching and fighting a good Pac-Man
@nugget9264
4 жыл бұрын
I agree as long as the Pac-Man is actually good instead of making a 10 minute timer run out.
@josesoto1219
4 жыл бұрын
P3 P4 P5 Doodles on me
@RacoonGreg
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Hates Pac Man Pro guides: Why does everyone hate Pac man?
@ekene4886
4 жыл бұрын
A good amount of people I think hate fightin against him tho
@xackk9198
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man is the most fun character to play and practice. There are hundreds of combos to practice and pull off, traps to setup, tricks to put in place. Playing Pac-Man gives you SO MANY tools to use that part of the fun comes from just looking for/practicing the setups for these tools, and just adapting to what happens when it doesn't work as planned. Also, Pac dittos are the best dittos in the game imo.
@big-bonkin-head1034
4 жыл бұрын
Because when you play him, your IQ skyrockets, and people either laugh or getting triggered by it when they play against him/her
@antonywu6672
4 жыл бұрын
*Reads Title Me: Wait, Pac-Man is hated??? Why???
@eternalnut
3 жыл бұрын
I love Pacman! I'm a Pacman main but even when I'm fighting against him, it's fun!
@mmmmgood7318
4 жыл бұрын
Zoning are the worst just the mere fact that we want to fight not just chase you around
@killercore007
4 жыл бұрын
4:40 Funny thing is, Snake can win( and without being too crippled) without using any b moves at all (expect for up b because well, you'd be just stupid not to) 5:50 Too true. You can't mash b and expect to win with Snake as most any other fighter of the type.
@EdeYOlorDSZs
4 жыл бұрын
the majority of the community doesn't hate Pacboi. Is Proguides toxic???
@atlasgalor3583
4 жыл бұрын
Fire Panda Party Penguin I hope this is a joke lol pro guides aren’t toxic at all, and there are many people i’ve seen say they hate facing pac-man, as a pac-man main myself, it’s not that big of a deal, i hate many characters personally😂
@xxvolcomxx56
4 жыл бұрын
This should be the only guy that is allowed to make these pro guides videos
@Howwi
4 жыл бұрын
I play Villager. I played 5-6 games with a random Pac Man tonight (had fought him a few times before) - we had so much fun, getting all these crazy stuff with Hydrants, Trees, Loids, Water, Trampoline and Fruits. Really cool!
@shybandit521
4 жыл бұрын
Cringe Zoner, play Dr. Mario and see how it feels
@triscuitpacman7712
4 жыл бұрын
I main pac-man, and if i were to play against a pac man, I would get annoyed. I could see many reasons why people hate pac-man.
@aneronstorm1122
4 жыл бұрын
Pacman in ult and smash 4 aint nearly as hated as super smash flash 2 pacman lowkey he so broken he invalidates 35 out of 41 chars in the game
@rikuthesoulless4281
4 жыл бұрын
7:09 as someone who secondary mains Pac-Man, that part is actually kinda true. If someone calls that element bullshit I can’t really argue
@fairandbalanced9462
4 жыл бұрын
"There is a reason to hate ever character" someone tell me the reason for captain falcon there is none
@captainknuckles875
4 жыл бұрын
His knee. It hurts when going in mid combo only for that falcon to throw out a knee. Since im commiting to the combo i go right into it and ether lose or go into disadvantage. My friend mains him, hes a force to be acknowledged.
@notimportant493
4 жыл бұрын
Down thow spam
@captainknuckles875
4 жыл бұрын
@@notimportant493 he needs those down throws though, unless you start a combo up with nair 1 or falling uair. His turn around has the worse frames out of anyone in the game.
@codygiang3860
4 жыл бұрын
Nigerian God when you play him and his turnaround raptor boost doesn’t connect 💀
@drakenstarcross1347
4 жыл бұрын
Knee
@konajohnson6182
4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get why people call Pac-Man lame. He can be hype when players like Tea play him!! I still think he is very deserving of his spot on the smash bro’s roster.
@amestrisgone
4 жыл бұрын
Its really only the hydrant, is a hard hitting unbeatable move that acts as a wall that gives pac auto stage control with no risk (no being reflectable isnt a real weakness)
@nsanity4624
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man? Yeah he’s hated but... - Pikachu - G&W - Sonic - Joker - Zelda - Young Link - Toon Link - Link - Bowser - Ness - Lucas - Wii Fit Trainer Just to name a few...
@mateodejesus5426
2 жыл бұрын
As a pac main, the only thing I can see being annoying is how you can charge bonus fruit from anywhere offstage and still make it back no problem. Everything else is just a lot of well-respected combos and crazy setups.
@elstupido9691
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that there is a link idk why that happened but it did
@skycrystal_yt395
4 жыл бұрын
I play as Pac-man most of the time, but I never use his projectiles.
@eternalnut
3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I'm glad I'm not the only one.
@dexstockworks2043
4 жыл бұрын
Mii Fighters: Am I a joke to you?
@retroghostx3788
5 ай бұрын
All this video is saying is "get gud" and all the comments are saying "Nobody hates PAC-MAN" I think the person who made this video should reconsider there life choices
@atlasgalor3583
4 жыл бұрын
PAC-MAN MAINS RISEUP!
@hermitvii5757
4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get frustrated in these MUs but I never try to take away from the skill these characters take. My only question is what is the appeal of playing a zoner? It's a legitimate question I have, mainly cause I play either rush down or more bait and punish characters so I can understand more patient play. It just seems pretty non interactive and I dont get how it can be fun to play? No hate intended.
@jusbetter7634
4 жыл бұрын
Pacman specifically is fun to play because he has so many options at any given time. And all these options are easy to punish. His fruit can be stolen his trampoline can be stolen. He can get hit with his hydrant and his power pellet can be stolen. This makes doing setups and strings with these moves all the more satisfying.
@jusbetter7634
4 жыл бұрын
And his fair and dair combo with his fruit well..
@jusbetter7634
4 жыл бұрын
People hate him because they don't understand that they aren't losing to spammers they're losing to people who study everything about Pacman. Who put more time into the unconventional way of playing smash
@hermitvii5757
4 жыл бұрын
@@jusbetter7634 I see, I do give credit that Pac Man isnt purely a zoner type character also. So pretty much it's satisfying pulling off all the many intricacies to perform different tech and combos with him.
@jusbetter7634
4 жыл бұрын
@@hermitvii5757 EXACTLY also personally I like using his fruit more as combo tools and extenders than kill options. It's fun to play zoners as rush down characters as pacmans defensive options are terrifying to deal with when he's aggressive. No one knows how to fight a Pacman that runs at u with an orange and forces tech situations
@1_ndex
4 жыл бұрын
I just main pac-man cuz i like how he plays
@mf6610
2 жыл бұрын
So it’s basically it’s another instance of people being more salty than Anchovies in the Dead Sea. Being too salty to respect the work that these players put in to just keep you away in the first place, and as someone who plays ROB and PAC Man and Mii Gunner and sometimes the Belmonts it’s actually difficult to keep people away in the first place. This hate just seems to be people hating on projectiles despite it still being an attack like the others, like the people hating on Mii Fighters despite them not being broken or anything in Ult. In fact, the first time I played against a Young Link online I didn’t realize they were just pressing B a lot I genuinely thought I just needed to git gud since I was a new player then, and fighting against someone like ZSS or Sheik is just as annoying (seriously I fucking hate sheik the most out of any character)
@t.h.mcelroy6597
4 жыл бұрын
@0:40-0:46 Too real 😂 Do you write your own script?
@kirbyofthestars2269
4 жыл бұрын
You think Tea's combos are crazy? You guys should check out Stoked-Pac. The tech skill is nuts.
@KevSB07
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, they're really good, but they're also on WiFi if I'm not mistaken. Not that they're bad, but there's a reason you don't see Tea consistently do them, and it's because he's on stream (not montage) and at a tournament against much consistently better players.
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
Tea has more elaborate setups. Also I actually had the honor of fighting Stoked in a Pac ditto on Elite, and the dude was crazy. I beat him twice in close games, then earlier this week I saw a montage in my recommendations from someone called Støked-Pac and after 5 minutes of thinking about why that looked familiar the lightbulb went off in my head lol. But yea. In competitive play, Tea is the best. Støked is one of the best online alongside Fawful's Minion.
@arachnofiend2859
4 жыл бұрын
I think it's mostly because if you don't play Pacman, you have no idea what's going on when Pacman is on the screen
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a really campy Pac isn't as hard to beat as, say, a campy Samus or Young Link. Pac's projectiles, if used to camp, are way easier to get around due to the recharge times, so a really good Pac player is going to want to mix up their style of play with traps and setups, and only camp behind Hydrant as a defensive option to buy some time or deploy it as a get-off-me move. He has the tools to play a variety of different styles, too: including but not limited to a really good air game with his fast, comboable aerial attacks and a great combo breaker with nair. He can work really well on the ground with Hydrant setups in conjunction with Fruit and Trampoline, and a pretty nice juggle game with his up throw and up air, but his lack of easy kill options sans setups makes him RELIANT on being able to do them while in the fray, more than can be said for a lot of other zoner archetype characters. I honestly don't think he fits in that archetype anyway, since zoners usually use projectiles to keep opponents at a distance, while Pac-Man thrives on having them as a tool to help him get in close as well. Being a Pac-Main myself I really appreciate how the narrator here (who really sounds like Alpharad, is he?) breaks down how perception and lack of knowledge about the character works is a large factor as to why people can blame him for being jank based or hate him for his style of play, and think a Pac player doesn't have skill, when in reality it's just the nature of the tools he uses and lack of knowledge on how to get around them that makes someone confuse genuine skill with skill less abusing of a cheap get out of jail free card.
@Braillionaire
Жыл бұрын
It is now the year 2023 and sword characters are at the top of the meta and people don't worry about being salty over swords because people mostly have them lol
@The_Gabe
4 жыл бұрын
dude pacman IS SO COOL noone hates pacman there is no reason to hate pacman bruh he is one of the best characters in gaming history
@WillyWipeout
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only change to Pac-Man is that they gave him a real grab
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
And his Fruit cycles faster, and he can fruit loop, and a z dropped Bell retains stun properties, and his up tilt is completely different, just to name a few more lol. He didn't just get a buff to his grab, he was mega buffed overall coming into Ultimate.
@zoruafox7512
4 жыл бұрын
Vivek Tarkunde fruit goes away after hitting a few times so no infinite item combos. But yeah overall massive buff
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@zoruafox7512 I mean, even after throwing it you can recatch Fruits and repocket them over and over, so you can actually have a certain Fruit indefinitely.
@zoruafox7512
4 жыл бұрын
Vivek Tarkunde still can’t do infinite item drop combos. You never lost one fruit to begin with if you were good with the combos so it’s a nerf. Sure overall he has been buffed but he got a slight nerf to the fruit department
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@zoruafox7512 fair. But in exchange, the Fruits retain their properties when Z dropped. For example, Bell stuns even when Z dropped. He did get his Fruit nerfed in that he can't do the infinite Z drop combos, but due to the fact that the Fruits do retain those properties, as well as the introduction of "Fruit Looping" and the faster speed of Fruit cycling, I'd say that outweighs it. But I don't mean to be the "well, actually" guy who split hairs over tiny things: he has overall gotten a huge buff, which is something we both agree on :)
@japhreal
4 жыл бұрын
Pac man: *using namco’s characters* Me: So everyone in smash to namco’s characters are hard Damn no way
@vick7868
2 жыл бұрын
After 2 years this still holds up lol
@TheSorrel
4 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder why I never see Palutena online.
@ZoofyZoof
4 жыл бұрын
I hate fighting pac-man because I have no idea what my opponent is doing more than half of the time and I can't understand how to punish him for what he's doing or how to properly react to what he tries to do.
@illuzions1615
3 жыл бұрын
I think people hate zoners because it feels like you're putting forth so much more effort than they are to get a hit
@Reyn_the_Insane
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man requires a lot of focus and calculation to use. I'm no mathematician but I really love playing Pac, and it's fun trying new things out and seeing what works.
@ZTLGsmashultimate436
3 жыл бұрын
I like Pac-Man because of his setups and most of the matches I get are dumb and funny
@invalidmember4505
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like one of the reasons people dislike zoners as much is less so because of the fact the option is a projectile, and moreso that the option is typically non-committal, instead of the chance of missing follow-ups and being punished. Granted, I can understand how, in Pac-Man's case, that's less of a problem, because there's still a chargup that needs to be followed through on, but even still.
@fazedank2136
4 жыл бұрын
I have discovered the side b pellet works well against projectiles like byleths arrows
@Nic_2751
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man World moves will totally change the whole picture, don’t even get me started on the golden fruit.......
@zoruafox7512
4 жыл бұрын
Wait people think Pac-Man is easy to use? Lol from my experience most people think he is hardest character to master.
@mendim6423
4 жыл бұрын
I actually love Pacman and love watching Tea play him.( I'm a Pacman main)
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
Yo, a fellow Pac-Main, what's good :D
@leindx7415
4 жыл бұрын
I don't hate pacman, I just hate these ":V"
@pixelbit0897
4 жыл бұрын
Pac man mains: Im I a joke to you?
@teomcnasty
2 жыл бұрын
I main g&w and pacman. Very good characters. And then my third, my favorite is lemmy lmao
@100organicfreshmemes5
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, spamming n-air at the ledge is what counts as "ledge trapping" now? Also I feel the opposite way when comparing Pac-Man's bell to Chrom's jab to rar b-air. It's not hard to stand next to the ledge and spam jab hoping your opponent times a getup wrong for a free kill confirm. If Pac-Man misses his Bell it takes him a few seconds to charge it up again, and he has to wait until the first Bell disappears.
@fatuncleben5280
4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly a pac-man and this hurt my soul
@anibalhyrulesantihero7021
4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind playing as Pac Man but fighting one is irritating for me not because of his projectiles but the fire hydrant, grab, and air speed. His air speed is as annoying as Yoshi's, fire hydrant is hard to avoid when getting combed, and grab lasts forever.
@cultofflop3659
4 жыл бұрын
What’s his iFunny?
@thecolorpurple9844
5 ай бұрын
1:41 ok im mad af, who the fuck called ness and lucas the same character.
@uhhhCheese
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't care about this character at all but after seeing Tea's plays... Dang it's really interesting
@shybandit521
4 жыл бұрын
Tea at least goes in on them, I know too many pacman who fill the stage with their projectiles and then sit in shield behind their hydrant
@vick7868
4 жыл бұрын
@@shybandit521 You can't really fill the stage with projectiles as Pac. All he has are his Fruits, of which only 1 can be in play at a time, and the Hydrant, which is more of a pseudo-projectile since it takes other attacks to launch it.
@csw-t5i
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pac-man main but I outta say that pac ain't that bad
@SoggyWafflesXp
4 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man takes actual skill tho.
@Axel_blur
3 жыл бұрын
Staying behind a hydrant not skill just boring
@ducktail4068
3 жыл бұрын
Never heard anyone complain about Pac man. Pac man is high skill cap. Pac man IS NOT A ZONER. Having a projectile does NOT = ZONER. Having MULTIPLE projectiles = zoned.
@setsers1
4 жыл бұрын
🤨😒You know Smash Players can be idiots towards better characters, right?😠😆
@Cristeve
4 жыл бұрын
I like your advertising, that video in the end is cool too!
@greatstoryteller9459
4 жыл бұрын
The power of death and control.
@gammagames6027
4 жыл бұрын
The only characters I truly dislike fighting against is young link and ness for obvious reasons
@shybandit521
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say I'd personally add Pac-Man and Pit to that list. Pit is so fucking loud and I don't like characters who dance around filling the air with projectiles.
@pedrusq6387
4 жыл бұрын
Almost no one hates Pac-man, dude. Tea sets are ALWAYS hype.
@pedrusq6387
4 жыл бұрын
And Tea's wins never feel stolen, they actually feel like a Jojo fight where Tea outsmarts his opponents lol
@scado5679
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Pac Man Main, and I've never had any of this sort of hate. A few "how did you recover from that??"s from time to time are pretty normal, but other than that everyone seems to be okay with him. He's not being heavily played or analyzed, and that's just the way I like him. I like playing Pac Man, and whatever hate there may be towards him, I'm not gonna let it stop me from playing (arguably) one of the most fun characters in the game. We need Mrs. Pac Man as an echo fighter tho
@dj_senf6741
4 жыл бұрын
Watching Tea is like art
@andrewheermans3009
4 жыл бұрын
What’s your beef with Yoshi and/or his uair tho? The implicit editing cues atop the inflated projection of zones-hate implies: you are a zoner that struggles with Yoshi. Yosh is a perennially underrated, misplayed and misunderstood character, and neither needs nor deserves this kind of negative attribution, he needs an echo/offshoot character. Is there an OG w/o an echo/offshoot besides yoshi? Why isn’t anyone asking for Birdo as DLC???
@bendy.in.super.smash.bros.8450
2 жыл бұрын
Pacman is really good hes really hard to get out the map and hes really fun
@lxchristhebuff1303
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that online pac man players are either masterminds that will destroy you, or wannabe smarties who will also destroy you, but slowly and painfully. There is no gray area
@terepashinogenjitsu
2 жыл бұрын
Even if you are a yellow circle with a piece cut out of you you will still get haters
@zXDaishiXz
4 жыл бұрын
Robin is the zoner who has limits on his zoning and inferior zoning tools given their lag with nothing to really supplement it.
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