Castlevania, Silent Hill, Metal Gear, PES. Konami has ruined every once great franchise they own. Worst videogame company around. They have disdain for their consumers.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real!
@richfranklin9270
4 ай бұрын
💯 spot on
@garv04
4 ай бұрын
So true
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
Was a huge MGS fan back in the day but the way Kojima left this company and the treated him on the way out was a disgrace.
@vidacf4
4 ай бұрын
Proper reply.
@nasko235679
4 ай бұрын
What I hate most about efootball is the same thing that I hate most about fifa - when you're facing a P2W team with cracked players it doesn't feel like your opponent's players are better, instead your players get nerfed to the ground and become completely inadequate and incapable. It's what I call the "reverse powercurve" mechanic. Messi with 90+ dribbling stats all the sudden takes 3 seconds to contain the ball and most defenders can't complete a single pass.
@LoneWolf-lk6gj
4 ай бұрын
I thought I was tho only one experiencing this! I was going nuts and wanted to quit the game! My neighbors must’ve thought I was crazy for screaming when players didn’t even react or passed the ball in a direction I didn’t even point out to!
@danieltriana9610
4 ай бұрын
Fr man it’s stressing af I didn’t knew what it was
@ATME2T
4 ай бұрын
This is the current state of passing. I did some testing on AI beginner difficulty and switching between PA1, 2 and 3. After some 5-8 passes in your defensive line the game inserts a random crappy pass 90-180 degrees of direction. To create an opportunity for the other team.
@azimages2538
4 ай бұрын
Don't knew if you had this. My GK time and again not throwing ball wide to fullback but throwing it down the pitch. I thought it was me at first then it started happening 3 or 4 times every game!
@b2przemo
4 ай бұрын
hahaha (sorry for laughing;)), this is the Biggest cheat of Konami - they convince everyone that "I'm the only one experiencing this" :) Bro, it happened to me and probably to more than 99% of players :)
@travis2367
3 ай бұрын
Same I was stressing thinking what is going on
@leonardo_da_g9168
4 ай бұрын
We all knew Konami didn’t take us seriously when they released an update of PES 20 and charged us $40 for it so they can take the year off to “work on next gen Efootball “ yet they still released an absolute garbage game even though they had a whole year to work on it 😭. So sick of these guys man. Sorry for posting 2 big comments guys
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
More comments the better bro!
@moliete484
4 ай бұрын
Yes exactly 😢😢😢 now have to play the shit fifa and ea fc as we got no option😢😢😢
@Katlegomaredi9
4 ай бұрын
You can't build a game in one year, on a new engine. They should've just kept releasing updates to PES and give themselves time to build the new game. We would've complained but it would've been better than this.
@moliete484
4 ай бұрын
@@Katlegomaredi9 yes🙏🥲🥲🥲
@azimages2538
4 ай бұрын
Spoony the only content creater talking for the long term gamers. Thank you Sir.
@majmahuk
4 ай бұрын
People would pay for a HD updated version of PES 6 - instead of this crap
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real! Id hire all the past dev team and kickstart fund it
@prodigy84bg
4 ай бұрын
Have you played PES 6 recently? While it was absolutely great for its time, it feels quite dated in many aspects.
@st3veee77
4 ай бұрын
yeah and make online master league with it. would go crazy in sales just by doing that. i
@majmahuk
4 ай бұрын
@@prodigy84bg I play it all the time - gameplay is miles better than modern games - they just need to add the AI from Pes (5) minus the fouls and it would be close to perfect - as I find pes6 too easy
@trevisobrando8971
4 ай бұрын
Pes 5 was the greatest
@andrewdavies7346
4 ай бұрын
Stopped playing FIFA and eFootball altogether about 2 years back because they're both awful. Online modes like Ultimate team (or Pay to win by it's real name) has ruined football games forever. The closest thing I can play to a football game now that doesn't get me angry is Rocket League. What a sad time it is for football video games. I remember thinking when PES 5 & 6 came out, imagine how amazing this is going to be in 15 - 20 years. Unfortunately I had no idea that developer greed was going to ruin it.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I know, such a sad state. Can't see them ever recovering
@trevisobrando8971
4 ай бұрын
absolutely brilliant comment and 100% agree, the magic of Pes 5 and 6 made it feel like football games would always be amazing, what an absolute shit show it has become now
@tommysmith7462
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas Lip service.
@Axospirit85
3 ай бұрын
I agree, for me the only way is play a modded PES 2021
@Anotherdayanotherdollar473
4 ай бұрын
Agreed. It went from the best football simulator to a basic mobile game from 2010 with the same animations, same goals, useless refrees, interceptions based cr@p.
@ze_german_kraut
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely shocking how they screwed it up even more. From bad to worst.. And i didn't expect any less from Coinami😅
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha for real bro!! Idk what they're doing!
@benedictwallis5820
4 ай бұрын
The worst part is, PES 20 and PES 21 was getting so close to the perfect game! All they had to do with continue with that base game! Makes me so angry.
@dailystats6454
3 ай бұрын
Pes 21 was the best ever mate
@dailystats6454
3 ай бұрын
They were greedy with efootball, what ruined the console gaming is the cross platform idea, where efoootball mobile and console arethe same
@mykoodeh3376
4 ай бұрын
Get the word out to other streamers. You guys have the most influence in the community. A real boycott may turn their heads especially since the player base is so low already
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real, 75% are not playing on pc
@noahbernstein5536
4 ай бұрын
80% or more of the playerbase is mobile bro XD Says everything about the game.
@ben_fade
4 ай бұрын
I think the player base has grown tremendously. People are even more fed up with EA FC so efootball seems to be less bad
@krushnachChandra
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas yes most of them mobile who will play any day to get the POTM with coins
@DangerManQ
4 ай бұрын
I just want PES back so i can play offline and online whenever i want to. New celebrations stadium updates etc. It's horrible what they did to PES.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I know man, sad times!
@azeemade5989
4 ай бұрын
I agree brother and feel ur pain. I wish we can all come together and sign petitions or even protest of possible . I have been a Konami fan from the 80's and then seeing this happening is heart breaking 💔 😢
@DangerManQ
4 ай бұрын
@@azeemade5989 You're a legend for supporting this company for so long. Sadly these companies nowadays are money hungry, making user experience worse yet people still give them money...
@jezzer77777
4 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the fouls. AI never give away free kicks, but almost every tackle on them and they get a free kick. And the amount of times they block shots and passes is ridiculous, even when they are on lower levels.
@TrayDonny
Ай бұрын
Thats fifa mostly
@username2168
4 ай бұрын
Also on lobbed through balls, the players always stops for and restarts his run and just ruins my occasion
@leonardo_da_g9168
4 ай бұрын
Completely agree with the ridiculous defending buff segment of the rant. It’s nearly impossible to switch the play, 90% of the time the defenders just lock on to the ball and get to it before the intended target. Sometimes I use the full power bar to switch the play and the ball still finds a way to lock onto the defender.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's mad bro :/
@okid7552
4 ай бұрын
what i also wittnesed you did not mention it. the last couple of days I got absolutely butchered by basic teams. i could not pass, i could not dribble. And i'm a monster in dribbling. Defense was like eating potato chips for the opponent. they could stop every attack instantly. while i could not defend at all. Baresi for example my strongest defender. One stat is even over 100. But not only him, every defender they just refused to defend, weird positional awareness and if i followed the opponent with the defender he was not pressing at all, he was just barely touching him from behind. Like a little child who would play against a older stronger player. while i was in a constant chase mode, every pass of the opponent went through, long lasting tiki taka in my half and the opponent defense was like a teflon pan. my goals were beautiful with my individual effort while the opponent scored every single goal with the help of the AI. I could not apply the same bias to him. i lost almost every match. What the hell is this? Thats what i call scripting. I mean its just sad. so many spend so much money and time for this franchise and they just dont care. from my feeling they had to reboot the system to the beginning to upload whatever is coming but the whole things coding is just a mess in my opinion.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I know mate, such a sad state
@cjgross793
4 ай бұрын
I feel you. I'm noticing the exact samething. I'm getting beat by guys I normally beat 5, 6 to 1 that are level 4-7. My team can't do anything and you can tell there is something sinister going on under the hood because very strange things are happening that totally favor my opponent. I had my 102 rated keeper with form arrow up make an easy dive save where he didn't even have to stretch out somehow make the save then this weird glitch animation kicked in and the ball magically ricochets thru the keeper and into the net - the save had already been made then this delayed ricochet happens. It's obvious to me that Konami is scripting games for lower level players to win so these people keep playing.
@olamideoluwatobi3485
3 ай бұрын
This is exactly my feelings. I went from 1200 ranking to 11,000 in the space of one week. Lost over 15 matches by conceding silly goals and mistakes. My players can't make a decent run
@okid7552
3 ай бұрын
@@olamideoluwatobi3485 currently the gameplay is acceptable in my opinion but there is still a lot of room for improvements. i experienced good connection when i close the wifi on my router and only connect my ps4 with cable. But sadly i think that ef25 will be the same game. The vast majority has to adapt to this gameplay and lack of content because of the professional efootball players... i have a feeling that Konami only accepts their feedback and cuts the game for their needs. professionals dont give a damn about offline content and good mechanics. they only want to engram the current mechanics into their reflex profile in order to win games. And i kind of think that konami has special agreements with professional teams to buy epic cards.
@nnidza
4 ай бұрын
I am repeating myself. Everything went wrong after they changed their direction and through away 0.9.1. Since 1.0 we are back to pes, modified Pes with no content. I don't play this game for 6 months. I was there even in 0.9.0. When I watch clips, some live content I still don't feel like playing it again. Too bad, to sad...
@k13morey
4 ай бұрын
Don't insult PES. PES 2021 is miles better than this trash.
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
Version 1.0 is when this assisted defending got introduced. All went downhill from there because noobs complained that defending was too hard. Guess what, now we have a almost fully automated unresponsive mess
@nnidza
4 ай бұрын
@@k13morey Modified PES, not the original. All the glitches that are in mess are the result of combining Fox and Unreal engine.
@iv6872
4 ай бұрын
What happened to our beloved Winning Eleven. I remember as a kid thinking how good the game would be in like 10 or 20 years time, how those geniuses at KCET will put more and more of the beautiful game into binary with an emphasis on fun, realistic, unpredictable gameplay with players who feel like their actual selves. How wrong I was, but who could have predicted this sort of regression...
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Sad times bro :/
@esha_indra
4 ай бұрын
100% agree. Why Konami change gameplay every version? And it's getting worse. Version 3.5, the game even don't have shortcut button for go to home menu without pressing back button many times. 😂
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
It's maaaddd mate! Idk what they are playing at...
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
I remember the one update where the only way to score was crosses and headers. They nerfed everything else. Then next update they buff and need something else. They can’t just make a balanced game. Just going in circles
@petersmitgary
4 ай бұрын
Thought I was getting old and swearing more than I should when I play this game, now it's a relief that I'm not alone. I've experienced numerous times when my player going through one on one, opponent made a sliding tackle, despite it's a blatant foul and it's a red card, somehow the player managed to stay on his feet and running towards goal, and suddenly the ref blew the whistle and showed a yellow card to opposition. Manual cursor change is the worst experience I've ever had, at times it switched to the players that are not even on the screen. Even on the training.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's dreadful right now
@baxtercymru1134
4 ай бұрын
Decent video. Forgot I mention far to many interceptions with people just blindly holding match up for the cpu to defend for them. Legs extra extending out of their body to intercept passes they should never get to.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I did mention that "2 buttons to master defending and interceptions without even looking".
@travis2367
3 ай бұрын
It's mad the interceptions
@ShikaIE
4 ай бұрын
I thought i was the only one who felt that whenever i take the first touch, i always felt like the player was not in control in split second giving chance for opponents to tackle just in case.
@megahz6681
4 ай бұрын
This is intentional and used to break up ur play/ build up. The game is rigged af, total garbage.
@ahmetgeril
4 ай бұрын
hy spoony, I was on vacation for 2 weeks and the day before yesterday, when I was back home, I played 2 games and then turned off the console. it's very frustrating, whenever I'm in the opponent's half, I am pushed away by an invisible wall. I understand that the game is based on interceptions, but not to this high extent. I'm not one to install and delete the game, In any case, I don't have high hopes that Konami will follow our wishes, since the opinions of old PES players no longer have any relevance in efootball. Thanks for the video.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment my dude!
@kenpachizaraki858
4 ай бұрын
The gameplay is at its lowest, it's absolutely abysmal. I completely agree with all the points above, apart from maybe "making it more p2w", because no matter how you look at it, epic/legend/booster shiny cards suffer from the exact same issues that any other cards. And when you face a squad that is 10-20 overall points lower, your 103-rated players just turn to mush a lot of the time. There are definitely some balancing mechanics behind the scenes. Regarding the boycott, it won't hurt to try, but imo the only thing that Konami would notice is if the majority of the player base stopped buying coins and spinning the boxes, but that's completely unrealistic to organize. I'm not even sure they keep an eye on the content creators for this game, there's zero communication with the community. The complaints are just piling up on every platform and there's no evidence they are even aware. Even some quality of life things that people complain about for months aren't being implemented. The game is severely mismanaged.
@GustavoCostaFerreira
4 ай бұрын
The handcap is insane
@travis2367
3 ай бұрын
The gameplay is 100% at its lowest
@gg-jv8xd
4 ай бұрын
PES 2021 was grate!!! WHY Change?
@bogdanglazov6848
4 ай бұрын
I am glad that there is at least one efootball streamer (you), who tell the truth about how shitty the game become and not kissing the Konami's ass. Thank you, Spoony! I might re-try EA :)))
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude
@ae-ns7dl
4 ай бұрын
I'm with you bro, been boycotting this dumpster fire since it released! RIP PES.
@salvatoress4472
4 ай бұрын
full game or Boycott Friday 10th May.finally someone brave
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Let's do it!
@goranlovrenscak6249
4 ай бұрын
One tip for Coinami, for player selection! They need to put controller buttons above the players head. So, when defending, put triangle, circle, square, and the X above the player's head, and by pressing a certain button, you get the player you want to select. Izi....
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Good idea
@goranlovrenscak6249
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas make a video about it :)
@JD_C0LA
4 ай бұрын
too much clutter on screen (good idea though)
@CL2005
4 ай бұрын
So you're always limited to only 4 choices? Don't think that works. I want to be able to pick any player at anytime when without the ball.
@Crukren89
4 ай бұрын
Glad ive come across this vid, sums up why im not going to bother playing anymore. The game is Unplayable, the amount of scripting is ridiculous and im glad you've confirmed im not crazy. Great video mate. Sounds like Konami has fumbled hard.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude, yeah it's shocking at the moment and until a new update comes along I will refuse to produce content on this game
@EzequielSalvatierra
4 ай бұрын
True on everything you just said. You can now see mainly no difference between a div1 player and a rookie. A top 500 player and a Div 3
@UdaaLee01
4 ай бұрын
Another efootball rant video.. yeah I'm seated on the front row 😂😂 Great video spoony! Konami please fix this game.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers UdaLee!!
@cbrown68
4 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree on every point you make. The way some people play online completely strips any joy from the game.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real!!! It's insane at how those players aren't bored. Sold their soul for wins.
@Diegoalllll
4 ай бұрын
Spoony Possession game with that shielding might be annoying for some users that's why konami made some changes now, people like me was spamming that shielding all day. And dont forget about the Messi comparison video, we need that one with detailed explanation
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
It's in the works :D
@langalethusoko8608
4 ай бұрын
What amazes me is how some people still play this game - not that I blame anyone for playing what they like. As a result I haven't watched Spoonys videos in a long time because of his focus on this era of pes. I am happy with the PC mods that keep getting better on PES 21.
@martinopalazzo9368
4 ай бұрын
I AM WITH YOU!!!!! -Boycott Friday 10th May!-
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@martinopalazzo9368
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas thank yooooo
@revieboy
4 ай бұрын
I've also noticed recently that when I'm playing higher ranked players, in general it allows me to play the game properly and I sort of have some control yet when I come up against players from lower ranks it's almost impossible to play. Whoever you play I feel end up being forced in to playing direct 'dirty' football as you can't trust the passing or dribbling
@gamingkingpin5481
4 ай бұрын
I am waiting for EA FC to arrive on the PS Plus. No hope from efootball anymore. Further more, the collision issues on this game is horrendous. Players feet pass against each other, ball passes through player's foot as if the player was a ghost
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
TBF EA FC career mode is still decent and on pc with mods....can be amazing
@gamingkingpin5481
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas Indeed! Anth mod is pretty good
@djdoctordealer
4 ай бұрын
You are the only content creator that is brave enough to speak the truth... Thank you for that
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I like to keep it real, if I like it.... I'll tell them, if I don't....even if it means a breakdown in communication then so be it
@Eng.Ali92
4 ай бұрын
PES 2021 Was The Best , Who's With ME ..
@luca88xy
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Pes does not exist anymore
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Fr
@cd889
4 ай бұрын
2020
@SneakersDK
4 ай бұрын
Its easy to fix the lag of the responsiveness. Just make the player's movement slower.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real! But they're not gonna do that else all those 100+ stat players will feel weird and people will wonder why they spent their money
@rayansalmon1775
18 күн бұрын
This game is getting even more assisted with the new upcoming update - September 11, 2024
@That_Dingle_Guy
4 ай бұрын
Watched pea universe stream yesterday and in one match it about 60!! Interceptions!! 60!! In surprised you didn't talk about the defenders catch up pace, it's way too much and annoying, my blues curler salah can't even out run saliba it's a disgrace, the player freezing has become worse, the passing accuracy is Nonsense,potw odegard with 97 passing can't even make a simple through pass, now we wait till the next gameplay update which is when? Nice video as always spoony.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Thank you my dude and yeah, my list was huge and didn't catch everything for sure
@travis2367
3 ай бұрын
Yeah the delay on touch,op defending and the speed has all been messed up
@mickinetsystems
4 ай бұрын
I played Mortal Kombat 11 whole day. I was so happy getting my ass kicked without any rage. I don’t know if I can ever have that feeling on any other day. Am boycotting forever until I hear some good news. Spoony let us know when any better updates are made
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I will mate
@thevoiceofcaramel3194
4 ай бұрын
Well done for sticking with it for this long. They had something beautiful and they murdered it. I do not think we will ever get a decent game from them again. It’s gone 😢
@GBigToe
4 ай бұрын
I'm with you bro, put a lot of money into this game since launch being a old school Pes vet. Being a Master League player i have enjoyed online but like you say this last patch is terrible and I have a pay to win squad it's just not enjoyable anymore. I can beat top 500 players but get beat by Div 3 players with half a gp team. Let's hope Konami are watching 🙏
@CL2005
4 ай бұрын
If you're playing the game, you're part I'd the problem. Pes 21 ML with option file still a fantastic game. Everyone ust be satisfied with that for 12 months and Konami would rethink.
@hugoteixeira6295
4 ай бұрын
Spoony you know I love your content. In 2019 after 10 years in fifa I went back to PES thanks to you and your videos. But there is one thing I have to disagree with you. A few weeks ago you spent money to get Adriano (if I’m not wrong). That’s the major issue with this game. People keep spending money on this trash. In almost 4 years of this efootball existence I spent 0€ and I’m proud of that. And a I have a good win ratio without spending money. So please Spoony and everybody reading this: DONT SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME!! If every single player stops spending money on this joke they will have to change the company’s strategy and the gameplay. As simple as that. On the other hand while people let themselves be moved by emotions to get a card of their idols Konami won’t change a Damn thing on the gameplay - and you are totally right it’s absolutely pathetic right now. Again I love your content spoony and I’ll always support you no matter what, but think twice before spending money to get a card. I know you are not that kind of moron that has 20 pay to win players with a 3000€ squad and a meta tactic but it’s very important to not spend money on this game
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Hey dude, I spent money to get Ronaldinho but it's the first time in like 3 years. Figured I played enough but I hear you bro. I don't usually pay at all. Wish I hadn't now though, sorry bro but no more money from me. I'm usually one of the good ones in that regard. Cheers dude
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
Firstly mate you shouldn’t tell grown men and women what to spend their money on. It’s their money and they can spend it on crack and hookers if they choose. Secondly if people don’t spend then this game ceases to exist and there is nothing to fix or play as I don’t mess with fifa as I’m sure many people here don’t either. Spend or don’t spend it’s a personal choice.
@hugoteixeira6295
4 ай бұрын
@@Neo_Rain146 it’s a personal choice? Oh i didn’t know that. I thought that was a universal law. It’s funny when a genius on the internet is writing “don’t tell people what to do” when you are doing exactly that. But probably you can’t even realise that. But yah keep spending money on this garbage. You are right.
@hugoteixeira6295
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas sure i understand. I’m. I’m not criticising you at all. Sometimes I have the temptation to buy a player that I really want. But if you like are not happy with the game’s direction I believe the best way to protest is to no spend a single cent on the game. And if you want my opinion don’t believe that crap argument “you have to spend money on the game otherwise Konami can’t develop the game”. We all know pretty well how Konami destroyed great game’s series like Silent Hill, Castlevania or Metal Gear. Keep doing your great content and let’s hope for better days in this game.
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
@@hugoteixeira6295 No clearly you didn’t know that but I’m sure that’s one of many things you don’t know. You should be thanking people who spend money on this game. It gives us a sh*t game to even play. You do what you want with your money and I’ll do what I want with mine.
@dannysmith8549
4 ай бұрын
I agree with all but listen content creators will still continue to put £150 on every week yah Mendesh wolf gaming liars fc pes universe the lot will still give them money m tell us to except the game for what it is....I appreciate what you trying to do as I try myself but not happening bro, I wish it would tho😢
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I'll see if I can convince them. It's one day. It's not a pack opening day. Make sure to tell them politely it's boycott day.
@Broma18
4 ай бұрын
So glad to see you really laying into Konami like this, mate. Fully deserved. It’s criminal what has happened to a once unbelievable IP in Pro Evo
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude, yeah enough is enough fr
@lukaszpruchniewicz8978
4 ай бұрын
Good summary of the update. You forgot to mention the lobbed through balls - they are played too close to players and players always stop running for a sec.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude, that might be due to weighted pass which applies back spin
@lukaszpruchniewicz8978
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas could be but in my case it happens for all players, not sure if all of them have that skill. Maybe it's because of old gen console.
@Diegoalllll
4 ай бұрын
Spoony, this thing happens only in top divisions in division online matches, it's the extreme DGAS(dynamic gameplay adjustment system) or scripting that causes the bad responsiveness. Yeah Tackling from Behind has become common in V3.5 but they reduced the intensity of direct tackling, but Konami will change things in the next update. They tweak the things in all updates, we have to learn and adapt to those changes, that's what makes it challenging. And the New Manager Pep is better than Xabi alonso in all ways. I am using 4231 with 3 amfs and having more than 65% of possession in all matches, it's enjoyable even though the win rate is medium. Pep's defending and player movements are superb.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Same bro, having a lot of success against QC players with Pep. Besides their stamina towards the end of halves is so depleted it's a good time to strike if the game is close!
@Diegoalllll
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas stamina depletion is less in possession game compared to counter attacking. Besides people will stop too much pressing and dashing to conserve the stamina. You can walk and play in possession game, that's another thing i enjoy. I don't use wingers in possession game, 3 amfs, 1 cmf, 1 dmf. Classic no.10 players got huge advantage in terms of stamina. Their stamina will never deplete.
@travis2367
3 ай бұрын
I also tried switching to pep thinking my style of play wasn't cutting it anymore had a lil run of success but it's the same more glaring problem of slow dodgy first touch to be then sped into by the opposition,interceptions, etc
@rayansalmon1775
4 ай бұрын
I believe the executives have their children playing the game and since they are losing they just update the game to favour them. I have never seen something that favoured one style of play so much
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha so true
@TheDevilishFiend
4 ай бұрын
I've been playing Konami football games since the very first ISS. I also bought a Japanese copy of winning eleven on Gamecube as Gamecube didn't release a PES. I absolutely loved PES, ISS, however football is a dead, soul less game. I basically still play PES 2020 Master League, as football is trash, and essentially a casino style money extractor. RIP ISS, PES, WINNING 11. Was fun while it lasted.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I hear you bro!! Id recommend 2021 as it's much better than 2020. Data pack 8 broke 2020 imo
@TheDevilishFiend
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas Sorry, I meant PES 2021 (update) Essentially PES 2020 was the last PES, as 2021 was just an update. 🫡
@NoName-rq6bg
4 ай бұрын
To be honest, i think its a good thing that its easier to defend and harder to attack unlike in EAFC
@sunny-wl6tn
4 ай бұрын
Those matters you mentioned are exactly what I am dealing with. Hope that Konami do some hot fix soon.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude, boycott 10th!!
@keeyong4751
4 ай бұрын
The roadmap, the master league, still hoping it will come 😢
@leonardo_da_g9168
4 ай бұрын
Give it up bro it’s over… I just play PES 21 with countless patches now 😅
@keeyong4751
4 ай бұрын
Haha😅
@smoothchilling64
4 ай бұрын
yea, best FL24
@OnlyFullFights
4 ай бұрын
YES SPOONY! I think this all needs to be amplified by all you guys, Barry at Efootball Universe etc to not be just posting all the time on new cards and positive things when the negatives completely outweigh and good parts. I’ve literally stopped playing the main league online mode, I’ve jumped on the 3 star teams in the weekly challenge part! Simply because the balance of having 100+ cards across the pitch have made for an unbalanced experience with the attackers acting like legends, but the defenders acting like gods… it’s an awful experience now, I played this game very often, now, after spending much money on my team, I’m not even using it, as I say, sticking to Team America at the moment on the 3 star vs 3 star. Hopefully with more of these types of videos we can finally get Konami to sort the issues, as we’re in such a strange period of time right now where there is no ‘fun’ football game around.
@Bratte-o3t
4 ай бұрын
The crazy part is that it's not just on PS. Same with mobile, especially their crap servers that make in game lag awful. I left EA FC because it didnt feel authentic. Now efootball is just ripping me off every online match with kick off glitches and crazy interceptions. Never heard anyone speak the truth better man❤
@xxx-funandtheories8337
4 ай бұрын
You got it all on point bro!!! I was waiting 2 years for someone to tell it. Big thx!!!!!Oh yeah I forgot 😅 reaction time and cursor changes is so bad and kills the gameplay. Cursor changes always to wrong player! And yeah there are 50 intercepted passes per game. That's so stupid. The passing is the ultimate worst!!! If play against d.1 team all the k.i will intercepted 99 percent of the passes. But for d.1 teams all the passes hit target. Just from box to box through pass and that's how they always score. No skills no nothing. Also you want just cross into the box the pass always goes to the wrong team mate. Don't know why the fu... Almost no chance to win with ball possession
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Thanks dude!
@xxx-funandtheories8337
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas very welcome 🙏
@markbentley7264
4 ай бұрын
Spoony you are a great voice for us ex pes gamers after a decent football game and I agree with everything you said and hope konami see this video I have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't mention the main reason I can't play and that is the game speed it is horrible far too fast for me that is the main thing needed to change for me to play. Thanks for putting your voice to them and let's hope for a good update in the future
@sothmusic8045
4 ай бұрын
Bro we’ve been complaining for 3/4 years and the games not changed significantly…. They don’t care man we know they pissed on us for profit! Our best hope is for a developer to find Seabass and build a new football IP
@vlada-brka
4 ай бұрын
Spot on m8. Whenever I start looking at new fc24 update and some new realistic slider settings , I know konami messed up 😂. Since the new version came up, I'm only logging for daily bonus, and that's it. Cheers
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Same here bro! Login, get bonus. Get out
@thomascharlie8037
4 ай бұрын
Best way is not to boycott. Best way is for everyone to write negative reviews and/or send support tickets. Boycotting does nothing. Leave a negative Steam/PS Store/Xbox Store/ Apple Store/ Google Store review. And write what's wrong with the game. It would also help a lot if you tried to at least give them the benefit of a doubt: The way why tackles from behind are so easy is because they changed the parameters how much physical contact you need to withstand them. Everyone was just playing quick, speedy players. Konami tried to make Big strong players better by making physical contact more important for attackers. Try old Ibra, Adriano, Haaland, Koller, etc. and they will not react to tackles from behind. The fist touch was already nerfed from v3.0 to v3.1. There is a reddit thread of someone who can still play v3.0 offline and he made comparison videos. Dribbling, first touch, etc. all changed for the worse when v3.1 dropped. I agree with everything though!
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Good suggestion but boycott will have an impact. It'll get them seeing the reason why!
@StevenPrincyTIMMONKOUEFOUET
4 ай бұрын
Des défauts que je peux citer de mémoire et qui me frustrent 1 - Les passes en profondeur constituent le moyen le plus simple et fréquent de perdre la balle, car les joueurs se comportent avec idiotie lorsque l'on en fait une. Ils font des appels de balle insensés sans prendre en compte leur environnement. Ils n'attaquent pas le ballon lorsque la passe n'est pas assez puissante. Non, ils attendent qu'il leur arrive dans les pieds et, contrairement à FIFA, il est impossible de contrôler le joueur tant que le ballon ne lui arrive pas dans les pieds, donc impossible de modifier sa course manuellement. Bon, il existe bel et bien le super cancel, mais c'est bancal et peu de joueurs savent s'en servir comme il se doit, voire connaissent l'existence de cette commande. 2 - En parlant de passe, il faut également que j'évoque le petit arrêt (petit, mais très significatif, surtout lorsque c’est le dernier défenseur qui perd le ballon, il ne reste plus qu’à espérer un miracle du gardien) qu'effectuent les joueurs à la perte de balle et ce suivi de l’impossibilité de les contrôler pendant ce court instant (une seconde), suite à un pressing ou à une interception. Ça fait quelques années (?) maintenant qu'eFootball existe, nous en avons vu des patchs, mais, étonnement, ce problème n'a jamais été corriger. Peut-être qu'aucun développeur ne joue à ce jeu ou, tout simplement, qu'ils ne considèrent pas cela comme étant un problème, allez savoir. 3 - La précision des passes en assisté ou semi-assisté, qu'est-ce que ça foire tout, parfois. Contre-attaque : votre ailier est démarqué, il ne reste qu'un seul défenseur en face, et il donne tout son attention à votre avant-centre. Vous choisissez naturellement de servir l'ailier en effectuant une passe aérienne en profondeur, donc pleine jauge, la passe. Qu'est-ce qu'il se passe ensuite ? Eh bien, c'est votre avant-centre qui sera inexorablement la cible de la passe et vous perdez bêtement le ballon. Ou encore, vous souhaitez renverser sur l'autre aile ou passer le ballon à un milieu de terrain et c'est à votre défenseur central que la balle sera destinée. Alors que votre joystick était bien incliné dans la direction d'un milieu de terrain et que la jauge était remplie dans cette optique. Je peux aussi citer ces moments où vous souhaitez centrer avec un latéral lorsqu'il est situé sur l'aile, et que cette imbécile passe à l'ailier qui se trouve en face de lui. Cette dernière situation et assez rare mais a sûrement été vécue plusieurs fois par des joueurs qui ont passé beaucoup de temps sur le jeu. Un conseil de joueur expérimenté : privilégiez les passes ordinaires aux passes en profondeurs, vous perdrez beaucoup moins de ballon du fait de la raison citée plus haut. 4 - Les gardiens saisissent obligatoirement le ballon suite aux passes effectuées de la tête par ses coéquipiers mais ne peuvent pas immédiatement réaliser de passe dès la réception du ballon. Pourquoi ? Ça casse le rythme du jeu. C'était possible sur PES. 5 - Lorsque vous effectuez un changement, il est impossible d'assigner de rôle aux joueurs entrant (sous "Plan de jeu / Equipe / Rôles pendant le match") au moment-même où vous faites les changements. Il faut attendre que le match se relance et le remettre en pause avant de pouvoir assigner des rôles aux joueurs fraîchement entrés. 6 - Les corners se ressemblent presque tous, le placement des joueurs fait très "scolaire", un peu trop parfait, ce qui fait très robot et gâche le réalisme. J'en profite pour parler de cette combinaison meta quasi inarrêtable qui est de sélectionner un joueur grand de taille, le positionner de sorte à ce qu'il puisse effectuer une passe à l'aveugle de la tête à un joueur positionner devant la cage qui va se contenter de rentrer le ballon sans vraiment de difficultés. Même si votre changement de curseur est réglé sur manuel et que vous placer un joueur devant le joueur sans ballon contrôlé par l'adversaire, une fois le corner tiré, le curseur va changer de joueur à contrôler inévitablement. 7 - Les ballons qui passent à travers vos joueurs lorsque vous tenez d'intercepter une passe. Comment ? Je ne sais pas comment cela est possible. Je ne parle pas des ballons qui passent entre les jambes, mais qui passent vraiment à travers les jambes des défenseurs. 8 - Je bondis sur le septième point pour parler des passes impeccables mais que les récepteurs ne reçoivent tout simplement pas. Il ne s'agit pas d'un mauvais contrôle, ou d'une passe trop longue, ou d'une course trop lente. Non. Le récepteur laisse le ballon quitter les limites du terrain, et on aurait dit qu'ils le font délibérément. 9- Le manque d'animations telle que les passes en étant au sol, suite à un tacle, par exemple, ou alors le gardien qui après une grosse parade, même au sol tente de sortir le ballon du cadre en effectuant un second plongeon pour prolonger son bras ou sa jambe. Toujours en parlant de gardiens, il faut qu’ils se replacent vite en sprintant après un arrêt ou lorsque c’est nécessaire. Combien de fois j’ai pris un but à cause du gardien qui fermait un angle, mais qui ne s’est pas précipité vers celui opposé après que l’attaquant d’en face ait servi un de ses coéquipiers qui se retrouve alors face à soixante-dix pourcents de la cage complètement nue. 10- La fatigue est inexistante, remarquez. Sur PES, que je me souvienne, on sentait une énorme différence entre un nouvel entrant et les joueurs titularisés. Pareil pour les longues conduites de balle, un joueur qui partait en sprint balle au pieds de sa moitié de terrain vers la surface adverse peinait à garder les jambes en place devant la cage. Pas sur eFootball. 11- Les coéquipiers qui souvent n’offrent aucune solution, ça c’est également très frustrant. Vous êtes sur l’aile, ne trouvez pas judicieux de centrer et donc tentez tant bien que mal d’éviter de céder le ballon aux joueurs qui exercent un pressing sur vous, et vos coéquipiers vont se déplacer un peu partout mais ne vont pas se proposer. Je peux également citer les phases de contre où ils (les coéquipiers, alors sans ballon) font n’importe quoi : ils sont lancés, puis s’arrêtent net en plein milieu du terrain ou alors reculent inexorablement ce qui va forcément réduire les options de passe, une fois arrivé devant la surface adverse. Il faut bien aussi évoquer le fait que certains joueurs démarqués vont se placer derrière des joueurs adverses. On se demande pourquoi, puisqu’ils ne font pas d’appel dans l’optique de créer des espaces et comme les passes en profondeur sont terribles, cette possibilité est à écarter ou à tenter, c’est au joueur qui tient la manette de décider. 12- Le système de contrat est discutable. Un contrat renouvelé par GP a une validité de quarante-cinq jours et si vous utilisez l’article « renouvellement de contrat », la validité peut monter jusqu’à soixante jours. Ne voyez-vous pas le problème ? Il s’agit bel et bien de jours et non de journées, ce qui signifie que même lorsque vous ne jouez pas, le contrat s’expire peu à peu. Renouveler un contrat est excessivement cher, on parle de 160000 GP à 200000 GP (c’est le minimum et le maximum que j’ai vu pour un joueur cinq étoiles), des sommes très conséquentes car gagner des GP n’est pas donné sur le jeu. Il n’existe pas de moyen ni de mode permettant de farmer de telles sommes. 13- Il y a ces moments, durant les phases défensives où les joueurs que vous contrôlez ne vous obéissent pas. Ça donne presque l’impression qu’ils sont soudoyés par le président du club adverse, puisqu’ils se laissent pénétrés sans manifester une quelconque résistance, alors que vous pompez toutes les touches et joysticks possibles pour empêcher cela. Concrètement, et je me base sur du vécu, il m’arrive de pencher mon joystick dans une direction précise en vue d’anticiper une passe, un tir ou un dribble, mais le joueur va soit ne pas bouger mais effectuer de petits pas chassés, or je n’ai même pas mon index sur la gâchette L2/LT (commande par défaut pour l’action « contenir »), ou il va carrément se diriger dans la direction opposée. Et la commande contenir peut se retourner contre vous toujours dans ce sens. Souvent, lorsque vous l’utiliserez, vous n’aurez pas un contrôle total de la direction que va prendre votre joueur, or cette fonctionnalité est plus que nécessaire défensivement, mais vient avec ce gros défaut qui est la perte de contrôle partielle des actions de votre joueur. Pas très dérangeant, mais il arrive que vous ne retrouviez pas complètement le contrôle de votre joueur après avoir lâcher la gâchette, ce qui peut vous valoir d’encaisser un but. Un autre problème avec cette commande est que, par défaut, cette gâchette qui permet de contenir est la même qui permet de réaliser une protection de balle lorsque vous êtes en possession du ballon. Il peut alors arriver qu’en tentant de contenir une passe, le jeu considère, avant même que vous n’ayez intercepté la passe, que le ballon est déjà en votre possession et, par conséquent, ce sont les commandes offensives qui vont s’appliquer, votre joueur va donc faire une protection de balle totalement inutile et sans aucun intérêt qui va lui coûter la possession du ballon. Ah, lorsque ça se produit dans votre surface, ça fait pleurer. Bon, ce sont quelques défauts qui me frustrent le plus sur le jeu. Il y en a d’autres qui ne me sont pas venus en tête au moment où j’ai rédigé ceux-là. Je ne parle pas du script parce que ça me dépasse et j’ai peur de perdre tout objectivité, et en parlant de cela, j’ai attendu d’avoir au moins mille heures de jeu avant de dresser cette liste.
@chrisal21r
4 ай бұрын
10/05 🤘I have an epic team div.1 on PS5, and in almost every match, at least 2 clear penalties are not given. Not just for me, but for the opponent too. I won't even bother to mention the simple fouls...
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha for real, I wiped the guys player out with a shove from behind....not a chance I would've won the ball fairly....play on ....haha I know for a fact he was so pissed. Sliding all over the place to try and wipe me out
@Çalhanoğluuuu
4 ай бұрын
1:27 Spoony, lot of the possession gamers were using that shielding technique to waste time and hold the ball. Strikers could easily score goals by shielding and turning to space with that shielding technique. That's why konami nerfed it. In my opninion Konami did the right thing. It was so frustrating when someone cover the ball like that and starts wasting time and we cannot do anything about it.
@saka3364
4 ай бұрын
The thing is that defender’s don’t get off balance if u left or right side feint. They should make it if u do manual defending only as a FIFA player myself I only use manual defending
@dartmoormole
4 ай бұрын
A sad end to my favourite game ever. Only play pes 15 on ps3 now
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I know bro :( ❤
@czAngelus
4 ай бұрын
Efootbal or PES - I've been playing for a long time but - I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU - the 3.5 update is perhaps the worst that Konami released--ONE WORD--------TRASH!? Really terrible, everything as you say, foul-non-foul, balloon as many times as he should be 50 kilos, the defenders don't react and how many times he stands and looks. But the worst are the passes - I have a technical player - MESSI, MARADON, RONALDINHO and I just - tap a little on the record, the opponent is 4 meters away but the player takes a step before kicking it ,considers where to kick it, stretches his leg and, and, he doesn't have the ball anymore because the opponent who was far from my player already ran and took the ball from me, even though I just hit the recording and that player should have sent it in an instant, so maybe makes coffee :o)) DISGUSTING ....TRASH! One sentence comes to mind and that's 'Konami, fuck this'
@czAngelus
4 ай бұрын
We'll offer cards - and pay and buy - and to make it even better - we'll offer those cards around so that -- money money money. That's all I care about, money, money.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I hear you dude, exactly same players. Felt great prior to update. Shocking.
@CaptainUncle1836
4 ай бұрын
Always echoing the thoughts of us mere mortals spoons, its horrendous and has been the majority of its life cycle, constantly teasing us with ML and Edit mode was the only reason most of us stuck around. This is an absolute shambles
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Shocking mate and thanks for the comment!
@Cagney80
4 ай бұрын
💯 back you spoony. I used to buy this game every year. Cannot play this mess. I was really looking forward to a next gen pes. So disappointed and miss master league. I stopped playing this a year or so ago. Loyal fans were screwed over and now a game that has no incentive to play it. Couldnt care about online which is a different game to offline. Gone are the days of pes tournaments with a trophy with my friends at college and when we got jobs we stoll met up for tournaments local on the on tv. Awesome. Cant believe this game is gone.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Thank you bro!
@mohamedrafik9271
4 ай бұрын
I posted about many of these issues on reddit, such as the player's freeze, and users on reddit were commenting that they never experienced this, and the game is fine and we need to stop the hate! I genuinely don't know what to say about this game anymore! It's 2025 almost, and we have a football game like this? I really still don't understand how people are spending so much money on this game? I see streamers like eFootball Universe spending more than 100 pounds in every video, and players on reddit posting that they spent 400 pounds and more to unlock a different version of Messi, without feeling any type of guilt or numbness! I know that this is a hobby, but how irresponsible you have to be do this? I will gladly spend money on a game when I know that this is my hobby and that the company is striving to make it better, and that the company is respecting my time in the game and respecting my user experience. But when a game is just overwhelmed by corporate greed, spending money on it just feels so wrong!
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Damn reddit is brutal haha
@florawu27
4 ай бұрын
Konami claims this game is a game of realism. However, when I defend in 4-1-4-1, the CDM cannot automatically move up/down to cover the central area between the backs and midfield. When I defend in 5-4-1 against some specific formation, the half-space should be quite non-penetratable, but it surprisingly is because the left/right centre-back is attracted to an opponent in front of him and posing no threat to him and gets dragged out of position. Moreover, when I play 4-4-2 diamond, I cannot defend in 4-4-2 diamond, but only in 4-4-2.
@BosGaurus05
4 ай бұрын
If the script kicks in, there's nothing you can do to prevent the cpu from taking shot or scoring goals. This happens on superstar and legend difficulty
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha fr I felt that
@That_Dingle_Guy
4 ай бұрын
Like fr, immediately I score the AI does a kick off glitch which amazes me and scores from the worst rebound ever
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t even mind the scripting if it was done in a subtle manner but it’s so overtly in your face you can’t help but get annoyed.
@noahbernstein5536
4 ай бұрын
Script vs AI i dont know bro i played the game since 2 years and i never saw something strange vs AI matches.
@thehottee
4 ай бұрын
The new Damn thing of Konami is the new Dynamic Balance of the Game. If you lead the game makes your Ai weaker and your Opponent's Ai stronger. To make it possible for the weaker player. The problem is that it doesn't work well. As soon as my opponent's Ai-Players become suddenly much better like Beasts everywhere on the pitch and make very very good Intercepts and amazing passes, the kickingpower of all my players become very weak even the new subs, a collision often occurs between my defenders and my goalkeeper or just between my defenders and the ball goes to the opponent's striker in front of the empty goal. It happened to me twice when passing the ball from the defender to the goalkeeper that the ball teleported through the goalkeeper and entered the net. It has happened to me many times that the goalkeeper takes a goal kick in strange directions. It feels like input lag, but it's just that my players is getting limited at some point after I take the lead even the new subs. All this happens continuously just since the last update when I am ahead of the score. Quite the opposite happens, when the opponent is much better than me Div 1 Rank 300 or better after he scores one or two goals suddenly all my players stand in the right place and their reactions become excellent, they make dream passes even from my Dmf Rijkaard to my CF Romario without being intercepted. And my opponent becomes Noob and can't make 2 right passes. I don't say this because i am losing matches no i am in div1 and i am winning but this is killing the joy of the game. I don't know if this is called script or something else, but please don't say the game is working fine.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I call it catch-up mechanic - this is to ensure there's close games. Else if a bad player gets thrashed 5-0/10-0... then they're likely to never play the game again but if they nick a win against a good player, they'll be more likely to stay and buy coins
@thehottee
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas I was in div3 and faced a div1 Rank 151 Player who can play much better than me. In first Half i scored twice. From minute 60 the catch-up mechanic was noticeable. He won 3-2 .
@miroslavtichy3517
4 ай бұрын
Do something with kick and Rush tactics and ridiculuos formations. Most players just kick the ball to your side and then hope they gonna ovepower your team
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I got an anti tactic for them!
@miroslavtichy3517
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas i take a look thanks
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
It’s the new meta. High ball over the top from midfield to Haaland or another skyscraper like Kholer then try get something off that. Forget playing thru midfield. The beautiful game personified
@Feyser1970
Ай бұрын
there is a feature in fifa where the defender runs towards you and makes a sliding tackle so close to you that the animation of his player sliding is not displayed, of course taking the ball with a foul, but just only your player is on the ground, the defender won the ball and is still standing obviously running away with the ball leaving you rolling on the floor, you can verif this but dodging everytime the defender and then you will see the animation of the sliding tackle, easy way to break attackers and get the ball because it s never punished by the referee, well it s exactly the same in e football, i thought this game would be better but is just fifa again.
@arcian2519
4 ай бұрын
Finally you know the truth, scripts and the lack of reaction when players lose the ball is just total bs
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha for real, shocking update
@UnitedSpotlight
4 ай бұрын
I havent played for ages, at this point we just need them to scrap this game and start again, the lack of literally any content and bad updates, there just not a good football game to play anymore
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha daaaamn I think reinstate 3.4 and start slowly tweaking haha
@prodigy84bg
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas but 3.4 is almost the same as 3.5. Now 3.3 on the other hand was quite smooth compared to both. Funnily enough, last year they made the gameplay worse with 2.4 and didn't really fix it until 3.0.
@DM-pv8ib
4 ай бұрын
Interesting on defending. One reflection though is I think this is the first time that defenders are given the benefit rather than attackers which is interesting - FIFA and Efootball both just supercharge attacking play so in a weird way it's refreshing to see defenders can win and outmuscle people
@obinwosu95
4 ай бұрын
It's not even that...defending can be outrageous for one side...then the other side ...you will get the defenders just can't intercept the ball...the momentum changes...and you are forced to play with all your mind because one slight touch and you can get scored by ping pong 424 . To the point that strikers are even playing defense
@DM-pv8ib
4 ай бұрын
Oh! I was thinking of getting it again too for 3v3 but I might wait for v4.0 😅
@Neo_Rain146
4 ай бұрын
Nah dude not at the expense of the AI making tackles and positioning players for you. There has to be a skill gap involved in attacking and defending. The problem is before V1.0 all the noobs were crying about how ‘hard’ defending is so Konami said oh well just take care of that for you and have subsequently ruined the entire thing.
@DM-pv8ib
4 ай бұрын
@@Neo_Rain146 yeah agree on skill needed either way but using EA as an example, it's so heavily weighted to favour attack, and EFoot was the same when I played it.. The classic 'through ball to mbappe' and the world's best defenders move away from him, or any 50:50 is lost by the defender
@obinwosu95
4 ай бұрын
@DM-pv8ib that's the thing...when you play defense...the ai is making you not to play defense...thats the script...it pushes you away like a force field...thats called the script...the script when your holding matchup makes your player glide or move to the wrong direction instead of you having full control of your defenders...and if the script is on your side...the game will push it in the right places...meanwhile when it's not on your side...you players make the most dumbest runs...they move left when you are trying to move to block the shot....it's like your players are on rails... People complained about defense ...but they asked for matchup and block to actually work...and interceptions....but instead of bringing it back to the old gameplay because I felt interception used to work pretty well last September 2023...they gave us automation...like its almost like they are trying to mock us by giving us what we want but also making sure we are triggered.. Most of the player base especially consoles are asking for more manual...we want pa1 and 2 removed...they didn't listen to that...they just do what they want or aren't interested so they dump any type of patches ..without even testing it...i play mobile....and I can feel when I have more control over my player...so they know how to implement this...but they don't want to implement it...players complained about defense...and they made it automated...who said we needed automation...we wanted to control the player and actually intercept the ball if we are in the right place...they decided to automated it...felt it will make it easier for also noobs. 100% they listen to complaints but they also mock us
@rockchok9
4 ай бұрын
Only point I disagree with is at 6:20 If you remember how pes 18 was played it was just long ball spam up to Aubameyang, and it wasnt effective because through balls were OP, it was because when your player would intercept the striker would be ready straight away to take it off of them. If you want a game where through ball spamming isn't overpowered, we dont want this changed
@adventureamplified_official
4 ай бұрын
agreed
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I'm talking players using PA1 assist and through balling from their 6 yard box, facing their own goal... to their striker who is through on goal. That needs nerfing.
@eagleitalia
4 ай бұрын
Two of my absolute gaming hates - the eFootball 2024 stumble, and the eFootball 2024 inexplicably under-hit through ball.
@DanielFeri
4 ай бұрын
i absolutely agree on all the points you made. i honestly have no idea how you can suddenly mess everything up so bad. another little thing i noticed was that they've nerfed the hell out of curled shots. before the update my neymar (90 finishing, 86 curl, 82 power) when he was in a good position for a curl shot, he'd score it 7/10 times. now, he misses it 9/10 times😂 so don't even think about a curled shot if you don't have a superplayer. now I'd say it's a good thing if i thought my players are nerfed for the game to be more balanced. but no, i know they only do it so the p2w players are even more op, therefore your'e more encouraged to pay for coins. konami will sacrifice anything for money. with fifa coming to ps plus next week, i think I'm gonna completely put efootball down for a while. at least until they get their sh*t together.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I heard someone else say they had issues with curling shots and blitz curler so I think you're onto something
@trugaminglegend
4 ай бұрын
On the defending side, one of the issues is the physical contact , konami needs to contact EA or UFL and ask how it is done on both games. I have mentioned this for years , basically anyone can body anyone . You have players like adriano been moved and pushed from players like pedri, or you have dembele body players like seedorf, Vieira or ronaldinho. This men were strong and were like mountains in their prime
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Physical contact is a joke. 97 physical contact Messi gets pushed over by Bernardo Silva.
@trugaminglegend
4 ай бұрын
@SpoonyPizzas I'm just tired, deleted the game some days ago until further notice. If not might smash up my controller
@Pahsca
4 ай бұрын
almost convinced its not even real input delay its just the game playing for you with pre determined outcomes
@QuizeXV
4 ай бұрын
as a top 300 player from around the world cup and stay around 1,500/3,000 now my biggest problem with this game are the through balls i won’t lie i go for maybe 2/3 a game because obviously it’s a good run but doing it 20/30 times or that’s all you do is insanity to me because it’s not football it’s basically track and field for the ball but when i try it once mbappe gets caught by Ben White i took a 9 month break and play 2/3 games a night but i used to play 10/15 games a day 2/3 years ago now it’s 2 games get mad and turn it off it’s awful nowadays
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Hahaha great comment and I hear you brooo. Track and field made me lol
@Teo-1983
4 ай бұрын
Completely agree, I couldn't have summarized it better myself (I have so many things to say that I would spend two hours writing). Absolutely the same thing happens to me! The gameplay is a total frustration, it's not fun even when you win. The gameplay is getting worse, in an almost pathetic and unplayable state. There are things that you can't believe happen in a football game in 2024, unless you think they are doing it completely on purpose and deliberately. They regress instead of improve and it seems that people don't realize it because they are sedated by the cards. Another thing, anyone who thinks that this game is not fully scripted is completely delusional. It's disgusting to see this beloved game in this state. Boycott on Friday!!! Likewise, I can tell you that Konami doesn't care... Why? Because there are always idi@ts who continue to waste their money on this garbage game. So why put in the effort? Cheers from Argentina!
@cadilillian
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Spoony, this video is a perfect collection and description of the "cancer" that exists in eFootball. The fact that things like player freezes are still in the game 2.5 years after the release of eFootball 2022 is as shocking as it is devastating, and shows what KONAMI has become. There have been versions with bad gameplay, but this version 3.5, as terrible as you describe it, really feels like a mashup of all the worst features/bugs in one version. I cannot understand what KONAMI's goal is with this version. It rewards players with no skill as much as possible and punishes players with much skill. I could write something about every single point you made, which proves how insanely awful the gameplay is and that basically everyone experiences it and can see/notice it if they pay enough attention. Remember my comment on your last video that ended with "..."? I can't say much yet, but if you'd like to see some of the interesting things I've found out in the last 2 years of reverse engineering, I'd be happy to show you (not publicly, that's for you alone, Spoony), at least for now. By the way, I've stopped working on all my eFootball projects for now (except for the FPS Limit and VSync Patcher for a while already), but if you'd like to try out the UCL Scoreboard, just ask, I'd be happy to let you experience it very early on. I can't promise anything about the scoreboard as I haven't updated it and it won't work until I do, but I could have a look at it and see what needs to be done to get it working again.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Hopefully we all make a stand on 10th now... no good if anyone plays on 10th...
@aidanjanemcintosh6919
4 ай бұрын
tbh I think this was quite realistic, the players don't look like they were levitating on grass. About player losing balance after getting a softest touch lol it can't be more real than this.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha bro, idk if sarcasm but.... if you play football to a high standard. Noone is getting shoved in the back and pushed to the floor without a foul being called
@aidanjanemcintosh6919
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas the first sentences was serious, but the latter was sarcasm lol, that fits a lot of players today that would roll over like a baby over the gentlest shove.
@sidzaman3009
4 ай бұрын
100% agree this is the worst pes I've ever played.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
For real!!
@chrisbasket
4 ай бұрын
I was calling for the boycott 4 years ago. Maybe my standards are higher? The gameplay, "script" which I call in game manipulation have been atrocious for years now. All the points you made on the video are a clear way of being able to manipulate the narrative the game wants which is close matches. Nothing more. They have sliding bars that are constantly moving throughout the game which makes players on the pitch better or worse as the game goes. It's blatant fraud with the money of many who spend on the cards.
@Johnnyjawbone
4 ай бұрын
Well done Spoony. Giving them a kick up the arse. I rarely play this game anymore. I keep waiting expecting a massive root and stem rebuild every year, but it's just the same reiteration of the previous game. I swear we could make a better football game than this (just need a few great coders).
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Cheers dude! I wish I got involved in a kickstarting project when I had the chance. Just didn't realise how bad football games would get!
@Johnnyjawbone
4 ай бұрын
@@SpoonyPizzas We have all the software available. Cascadeur for animation, Houdini for procedural, UE5 for the game engine. How hard can it be to make a better game than this shit? I'm also including EA FC which is the most uncool game out there, but the kids don't realise this....... Yet.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Haha for real, I honestly don't think ps5 can handle much of the unreal engine. It's struggling
@catscantfly
4 ай бұрын
as someone who was never a dribbler ,i dont notice alot of these things
@obinwosu95
4 ай бұрын
If you tell us you are never a dribbler...you are kind of telling me you don't even know football..and so to notice this things is not your interest...people who love football ...are interesting in dribbles
@catscantfly
4 ай бұрын
@@obinwosu95 I've been playing pes since 2009
@Zanyy__
4 ай бұрын
nice to finally see the community fight back well done spoony
@ChrisMan83
4 ай бұрын
I'm 8 days late to when you put this video out but man, You've done a great job compiling all the faults thats been bugging me for a while, The gameplay's been gradually getting worst bit by bit until we have this garbage of a game, I'm no longer going to be putting money into it cos its just a repeat of the same old crap like last year, Its too frustrating. Ive noticed there's alot of high rank players using none epics of late and i don't know if its me but their players seem way more responsive to my epics.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
Same here...came across a team of GP players absolutely playing like prime Barca
@nickherradon8717
4 ай бұрын
It may just be me but Ive noticed that something was wrong with the target selection of PA1-3 ever since they released the momentum dribbling and visionary passes, which curiously i dont see any epic cards having these skills either
@milan.mishra10
4 ай бұрын
I have been Boycotting the game for months now. That's what needs to happen. Let's start with this one day. But let's not stop in the future. Let's keep boycotting the game until we get a solid reply.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I'm certainty not paying for any coins. Login, collect bonuses and get out. 10th May.... definitely not playing.
@aminuucs7702
4 ай бұрын
I stopped playing 5 days ago. And I'll continue until the next update. I'm a top 200 player with F2P team but the boost that P2W cards got in this update is ridiculous.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
for real dude!
@Longlostpuss
4 ай бұрын
Been saying this for the longest man, this isn't by some random mis-hap or omission of quality control, this is a model Konami deliberately brought in since they ended the PES brand and turned it into this eFootball pay to win garbage. All the issues you described there have been there since PES 2020, they just temporarily move the sliders on versions to make you believe they've fixed the issues and then revert them back to the dross once they've sucked enough people in with the demos. I've got even worse examples than this I could show you, so many videos, but I haven't been arsed up to now to put it all together. The game is definitely ruined and set to deliberately force outcomes, there will be times you literally have zero control over the play other than to just give the ball back to the opposition. With all of that said, it's still miles better than FIFA, or EA Sports FC as it's known now.
@SpoonyPizzas
4 ай бұрын
I know man and I appreciate you commenting and making yourself heard. Keep it up bud, we will get there one day...
@mithaqelnemo8137
4 ай бұрын
Konami absolutely screwed the pes franchise , I don’t even play efootball , am still playing pes 21 at the moment. They clearly don’t care anymore , their main goal is gearing towards ultimate teams which is a mess on its own right , notwithstanding the horrible gameplay they managed to screw over. It’s honestly sad to see them destroy this franchise that I have been playing since 2006 . Shame on you Konami !
@luko1285
4 ай бұрын
Great video Spoony 🍕 Still playing ML on PES21 with updated teams for the 23/24 season. It’s not what it once was, but at least it’s not this. I don’t think I’ve ever been bored of a game faster than this, utterly soulless. Boycott this game.
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