Iron sting is a stupid weapon and so is the curse blade
@nein7170
2 жыл бұрын
@UCczeK-yFHzYrSbTW1_3taEA lol me too
@francissanchez3759
2 жыл бұрын
so wait does that mean that the curse blade is no different from using iron sting so it's ok to use curse blade on Kazuha until i get Favonius Sword
@papillio8832
2 жыл бұрын
Atk% diesofcringe
@FBI-xu
2 жыл бұрын
I have a r1 fav sword and 25% CR , is it still better to use fav instead of iron sting?
@fortuneguy2412
2 жыл бұрын
@@FBI-xu Use sac sword. It's better than fav.
@fpgamer4566
2 жыл бұрын
Ofc this comes after i crafted and lvled iron sting to 80
@vincdraws4742
2 жыл бұрын
Sadge my guy
@QMS9224
2 жыл бұрын
It’s still really good also you just need em and er in artifacts with fav you need some crit rate
@dr.stonksakahelth5857
2 жыл бұрын
I mean the news about fav being better has been there since kazuha rerun was announced
@papillio8832
2 жыл бұрын
Iron Sting still does well in Raiden teams at least
@erwandywijaya9965
2 жыл бұрын
Mine's 90 already, glad i also prepare lv 90 r5 fav sword as well. So im not too sad rn ;)
@finebook281
2 жыл бұрын
Most players think that they need dramatically less ER than they need because they don't understand how rotation extensions reduce their DPS and just spend 5-10 extra seconds batterying their 130% Kazuha or their 100% Xiao.
@ChosenOne2524
2 жыл бұрын
Never understood why people say Xiao has energy problems, I've never had to spend time batterying my 120% er xiao If you use his 2 skills before his burst, you start off with half your energy. By the time you're done, your skill cooldown is done, and you almost have it up fully. Albedo's constant energy regen then fully fills it up. Add that to the fact that most will run him with jean, who regens even more energy for him, and the fact you can run Zhongli with Fav lance, you should never have energy problems with him
@chuckguy120
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChosenOne2524 Your 120% is enough coz you also have jean and fav zhongli. Tbh yeah xiao don't really have energy problem if you properly funnel and bring decent battery, heck even you can theoretically run 100% ER with sucrose only. Although OP point is right about less ER --> longer rotation --> dps loss, using xiao as an example is not really correct because xiao doesn't really have ER problem if you can properly funnel and manage his energy.
@Malurth
2 жыл бұрын
tbh I've found in practice that rotations are mainly the stuff of theorycraft because enemies just die or get displaced well before you can complete a rotation, or there's like one enemy left and the floor's almost over so you'd rather save your energy for the next floor, or the enemies are just super spread out and you have to waste a lot of time just closing the gap. the only time a full rotation really seems to come into play is when you're up against one super tanky nigh-immobile enemy like PMA (and even that is sus due to the adds stage that occurs halfway through). I've been 36 starring abyss with ease for well over a year now but my 'rotations' always wind up being chaotic clusterfucks past the first few seconds of them. and if you didn't start the challenge with full energy already you just have to improv anyway.
@jthepj108
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChosenOne2524 you don't have issues because you have 3 batteries for your 70 cost burst
@Indifference50
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but 200% ER on Kazuha? Nahh, I do perfectly fine with 160+% .
@ElTestok
2 жыл бұрын
1:36 Just a side note: Everyone can decrease enemy Anemo resistance even if they don't have C4 Jean, because everyone has a free C6 Anemo Traveler.
@Ben-vg6ox
2 жыл бұрын
Free C6 anemo who?
@ironspider_9522
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vg6ox sayu
@tearsch
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vg6ox Anemo Traveller 5* c6.. your main character :v (Aether x Lumine)
@Shahsham2609
2 жыл бұрын
In that constellation, it doesn't tell the duration. Can i know how long does the debuff stays on enemy and how to tell the difference if one gotten the debuff? Thanks in advance.
@tearsch
2 жыл бұрын
@@Shahsham2609 10s maybe,, there is a downward arrow on the enemy when it's duration (cmiiw)
@LandryArri
2 жыл бұрын
What some commenter failed to realize (and tenten somewhat failed to emphasized in this video) is favonius is not OP because it gives room for other stat for the wielder by lowering his/her ER Requirement. If that's the case, amenoma might be better or at least on par choice as 12 energy per rotation is not a joke even without ER substat and it's craftable. Favonius is OP because it also gives room to other stat for your ENTIRE TEAM with super easy requirement (fishing crit in multiple hits is not as hard as most of you think, which I understand as statistic and probability is something that super hard to grasp instinctively) Lowering ER Requirement for your teams mean not only increasing damage on your kazuha; which sometimes contribute like 25%ish at max but also your main and sub damage dealer. The one that you appreciate more if they can still maintaining rotation time with more offensive stat in place of ER. The same reason why some people opted to run the exile set on their support even though the wearer doesn't get the energy. Buffing your support matter less than buffing your main carry. Other KZitemr/TC (I won't promote him in other channel) already did the calculation on how favonius significantly lower your teams ER req and the result is quite significant.
@minhkhoinguyen179
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, FAV is for someone who gets crit and huge amount of EM substat on VV set, while iron sting for who gets a bunch of ER
@Vonmoonlight
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed hence Tenten's statement at the start of the video, "for most of them" Ideally you want fav sword + 3 EM But if you don't atm and you got way more ER and your team still suffices without needing a Fav support then by all means Iron Sting, until then it's relevant till you get the almost or ideal stat that Iron Sting becomes obsolete
@godhimself7708
2 жыл бұрын
I run Iron sting Kazuha with Raiden and he always has his burst off cooldown. So yeah his weapon choice greatly depends on the team you’re running and how many enemies you’re fighting. Though in general scenarios, Fav will be better if you have decent crit rate from subs.
@NamaeSora
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, my Kazuha has 5% crit rate and 195% er with 3x EM and Iron Sting, why the hell would I run Fav? I dont need the ER and it would never proc with 5%, so its really annoying that everyone keeps pushing Fav sword like its universally better when it just depends on your build
@abyssenjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@NamaeSora yeah lol
@nate9545
2 жыл бұрын
@@NamaeSora 195 er? U got 18-20% er subs on each piece? U must the luckiest person on vv domain
@rpdotg7408
2 жыл бұрын
This video will age well given what is known to what will happen to the strongbox, but if you consider that EM pieces are a rare drop regardless if 4 or 5*. Iron sting is a comfort pic esp considering the need of an approximate of crit on an already hard piece to farm. This also considers resin farming on the VV domain can be a waste when a player can use available VV pieces with the Iron Sting and then farm garbage pieces from high value domains.
@quangamng
2 жыл бұрын
wait ,so what is your point again?
@rpdotg7408
2 жыл бұрын
@@quangamng oh Im just saying that the info in this vid would become much more valuable coming into 3.0 but could be unreasonably frustrating to do at the current patch. Pardon, if I have said something unclear
@takewithfood
2 жыл бұрын
I'm that guy that happened to get a boatload of ER and literally zero crit on my VV pieces, so I went with EM/EM/EM and Iron Sting, and I do fine. The main team I use him in (Ayaka freeze with Rosaria) doesn't need the white particles, and I'm using my only Fav sword elsewhere, so it just makes sense for me. HOWEVER, the main point that should be driven home is that the extra swirl damage you get from the EM on Iron Sting does NOT make up for missing the occasional burst in a dps test scenario. Energy > EM.
@Riolu559
2 жыл бұрын
It even worse when people think iron sting refinement will boost kazuha damage tremendously as they think every number including the swirl is affected by iron sting passive.
@takewithfood
2 жыл бұрын
@@Riolu559 Oh that's a depressing thought. A lot of my casual friends really don't understand how reactions work or are calculated, so I'm sure there are plenty of people wasting their precious billets on things like Iron Sting refines. Ouch.
@cantanuh
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video 1010! Ive been arguing with some of my friends about some of these topics and now I can just show them this video!
@bluball3923
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for those players who don't have fav sword or any energy recharge sword
@JohnJillky
2 жыл бұрын
Skyrider is right there 😎👌🏾
@cabbagegirl2364
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah im ar 56 but i dont have a fav sword yet lmao so i use iron sting, though its fine i have his c1 so i have the sac sword effect so ez burst uptime
@andri_prasetya
2 жыл бұрын
11:48 that's me. I got 203% ER from substat only, using full EM main stat & iron sting build.
@janakkathiria1322
2 жыл бұрын
Super ultra mega lucky
@andri_prasetya
2 жыл бұрын
@@janakkathiria1322 thank you. However I can't make my Ayato burst off cooldown. But, if I'm using favonius sword then my ER will be too many. And I also I don't get many EM substat.
@aerohydra3849
2 жыл бұрын
@@andri_prasetya If you use Favonius on Kazuha you could then give those white particles to Ayato to decrease his ER requirement.
@xourle4996
2 жыл бұрын
My first thought when reading this dumb title was "Unless you have enough ER substats". And lo and behold, TenTen at 11:27 saying "Unless I explicitly farm for ER substats" My man, people who uses Iron Sting on Kazuha probably does exactly that. Are you high when making this video?
@Pendaemonium
2 жыл бұрын
He could've just made the video 4 minutes long but instead he told us us all that nonsense about swirling and CRIT rate lol
@walmart_childe3993
2 жыл бұрын
You might be surprised that a lot of people don't spend time in vv domains and don't get er from substats
@justjuniorjaw
2 жыл бұрын
It's been a well discussed topic in the TC community, but it's good to make it known to the general, casual audience.
@phamquang7885
2 жыл бұрын
Still not regret of maxing my iron sting. And what do you know, I just suddenly have a spare Fav. Thanks for the to-do list update.
@tomekl3476
26 күн бұрын
if you dont ult often for example in childe international because it can mess up reactions for not that much more damage and you care much more about more em to buff your qiangling and childe
@hahahayi1017
Жыл бұрын
Xiphos moonlight just solved all our problems 😌
@HotPepperLala
2 жыл бұрын
btw i think it would be helpful to link the interactive graph equation thing you showed so people can click on it and try it themselves.
@shwedoo-6035
2 жыл бұрын
I have a bit of a problem when it comes to this. I need more fav swords goddamnit! My Xingqiu wants one, my Kazuha, my Jean wants one, oof what to do...
@nchls1343
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, now I can just attach this video rather than debating those twitter people for a whole day
@Chaos1091
2 жыл бұрын
And here I was about to make an iron sting and get it to R5 before I pull Kazuha glad you posted this, saved me a lot of resources, time and regrets. Lol.
@BellaenDuHljodhr
Жыл бұрын
Listening to this while playing Kazuha + Jean, (plenty ER... double swirl...) Still good info, but calling Iron Sting a terrible choice is too simplistic and reactionary. Especially when it's probably his best ftp guaranteed option (I still don't have a FAV sword)
@Wreckedandruinedand
Жыл бұрын
Take a look at his em pieces, they are so bad, a lot of flat stats and just a single er roll... The circlet is a 4 star one with no er substat too. Fav is actually better for what he had at that time, but yeah calling iron sting is terrible and said fav is his best weapon in this video title is such a hard cope, i just cant 💀
@sachi4051
2 жыл бұрын
iron sting is for em, em for bigger damage fav is for er, er for a second burst lol who tf needs two bursts when u can kill the enemy with one
@chikapu3128
2 жыл бұрын
bc abyss enemies spawns with 2 waves now 🤓
@DarkmegaGaming
2 жыл бұрын
barely halfway through the vid, and almost asleep in my chair. ya'll can keep your spreadsheets, number crunching and dps arguments. But I'll take your word for it. Sting didn't feel like that great of a weapon on him anyways, even without extra testing. Especially when I like to give everyone atleast a few seconds in the spotlight each to do a bit of stuff.
@donewithprecision785
2 жыл бұрын
Day 1 of pulling him, I said Sac Sword no cap…now all this “this weapon is best NOT THE IRON STING” business is going around. Let me watch this lol Edit: My vote is Sac Sword but I do agree. The Iron Sting dmg difference is negligible when looking at the big picture. Good for showcases and topping off damage, not great for actually playing the characters in his entirety.
@ShotterGames
2 жыл бұрын
I guess the problem with Sac is that it's a bit more Refine dependent than Fav, and there's teams that don't want to Kazuha spend too much time in field, but I guess it's the best option if you want your Fav in another character and principally if you didn't get any Crit in your artifacts.
@donewithprecision785
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShotterGames That to me was the only real difference and yeah, it is a r5 Sac Sword. Everything you said is facts. If your team calls for a specfic tight rotation, the Fav I think would be better. If your freestyling half the time, the Sac Sword is amazing, especially at c0 Kaz.
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. It's very simple: Awful artifacts because you didn't farm them appropriately? Fav Sword Good artifacts because you did properly invest into your Kazuha? Iron Sting/Freedom Sworn
@jy1178
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShotterGames Same. Was using sac sword on kaz day 1 because I enjoy the crazy cc and damage Kazuhas skill offers and want it up as much as possible. Funny how TC's recently "discovered" this when a lot of Kazuha mains were running er weapons from the start lol
@finebook281
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaikawasumi "didn't farm them appropriately" ?????? So not getting 100% ER from substats on EM (5.5% chance) VV artifacts is a skill issue now? Most of us don't want to perma-farm VV so we can run Iron Sting Kazuha for a miniscule damage increase. Not even accounting for the fact that that much investment in Kazuha means a Fav Kazuha could run artifacts with high ATK% subs and a lot of EM on flower and feather Disclaimer: only talking about non-Raiden teams. With Raiden, Iron Sting is a good option
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
TenTen: EM is so good on Kazuha Also TenTen: Go for the ER weapon! You don't want more EM! Why is this so hard for you guys to understand. With Fav Sword how do you get more EM on Kazuha? You don't. It's not actually possible. Freedom Sworn isn't an EM weapon for no reason. With an EM weapon you can always get more ER substats. The vast majority of Genshin teams with a Kazuha will never need the white particles from Fav Sword even if you actually have the crit to consistently get them. It's so weird seeing a Genshin TC actually tell people having bad artifacts and not optimizing a character they think is amazing is a good idea. It's a mathematical fact Iron Sting is better on most teams when you don't have bad artifacts. Stop digging in & just admit you're wrong, good lord. This is actually getting toxic.
@walmart_childe3993
2 жыл бұрын
You are kinda right with freedom sworn vs fav but your reasoning is just bad on top the fact that video compares iron sting and fav. Freedom sworn is better than fav cause how good its passive is when compared to fav (kazuha specifically). But the passive of iron sting is even more horrible and just a waste. Your argument of just get more er subs on EM main stats is just so ignorant cause not only EM mains stats are incredibly rare , you are suggesting ppl to go through another layer of rng to get er subs .So why not just not go through the pain and use fav with triple em , more resin efficient and as for crit rate u need around 25%-35% to proc it which you can focus on your flower and feather as they are easier to get with good substats And as for the mathematics, I think spending '1000 resin is better than spending 10k on your freakin SUPPORT' And If you don't like how 1010 phrases his arguments I would say go watch zajef77 , he will explain it much better
@aerohydra3849
2 жыл бұрын
That's just flat out wrong. The vast majority of Genshin teams with Kazuha HEAVILY appreciate the white particles. Melt Ganyu, International, VV Hu Tao, Ayaka Freeze, these are some of the most popular teams he's used in and in every one of them at least one character needs ER investment, meaning fav will allow you to reapportion those 4-5 dropped ER rolls into offensive subs. Favonius is actually the best way to optimize teams for maximum damage because it allows you to drop ER reqs for all characters and invest into offensive subs instead like crit. 4-5 crit rolls allow you to gain potentially 10% DPS, which is way more than the 2.5-3% DPS increase that 165 EM would give on Kazuha A4. It's a mathematical fact Favonius Sword is better on most teams when you don't have bad artifacts lmao. TenTen actually treated Iron Sting too kindly in this video by saying if you have enough ER you can use it, in fact even if you get 200 ER from subs alone it still ends up worse than Fav because Fav's passive alone contribute to a bigger DPS increase to almost every team. The only team that Iron Sting is better than Fav in is Raiden. And that's it.
@biboymartinez6557
2 жыл бұрын
Its not a mistake. Ofc whatever stats that is lacking you have to compensate. If you have 160+ er on your vv set alone definitely you can use iron sting. Otherwise you can use the fav
@veliona8920
2 жыл бұрын
Fav Sword is only good if you have bad ER substats from running triple EM and can't meet the ER threshold to burst off cd, If you have the ER you need from sub stats then there's no reason to run Fav, IS would pull ahead. Basically it's a copium weapon due to not being able to get good sub stats on the ever elusive EM main stat artifacts.
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
Quite the contrary, if you put fav on kazuha, you can focus your substats on EM artifacts into crit rate, damage, atk to further boost kazuha's damage, so fav has higher ceiling. Not to mention that fav makes it so you need less energy on your other characters. But if you REALLY have no choice, and ER substats artifacts are your only option then yes IS is better option.
@whitecheeze_rf
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicaddict9058 Fav helps your party with its energy particles
@Ben-vg6ox
2 жыл бұрын
Even when iron sting is better it's not a big difference, Fav batteries not just Kazuha but also whoever else you're using on your team Unless you have C6 taser driver Kazuha there's 0 reason to ever use Iron sting over Favonius unless you just don't have Fav R5
@hagianghoang4026
2 жыл бұрын
he did explain that kazuha burst in some instances can take up to 200% ER to get off cooldown, and let's be honest, the EM drop rate on VV is already horrible, now you have to get 200% ER from susbstat alone, which is basically much more VV farming.
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
2 жыл бұрын
fav sword reduces the ER requirement of the rest of the party, allowing you to invest more in offensive substats and overall netting you higher team dmg
@ATKR45
2 жыл бұрын
Sting*
@kkbisco
2 жыл бұрын
I recently got my sac sword to r5 and it's so fun using kazuha in the overworld. I hope I get other copies soon so him and Xingqiu won't share
@JosePaoloCruz
2 жыл бұрын
Me with a 160%+ ER on Kazuha... Oh, ok... so I should use Favonius instead.... (Before anyone tries to point out team ER, zero issues there as I have everyone's burst up before I need to even swap to the next character.)
@juliusnovachrono3313
2 жыл бұрын
And here i am who has Iron sting R5 on him.. but my energy recharge is good enough that's why i gave my fav sword to kaeya
@akitoshinori5671
Ай бұрын
Iron sting is a good weapon only if u have enough E.R on your artifacts's substats i am rocking 167% E.R just from subtsats and main E.M on Sands,Goblet and Circlet rounding up to 867em
@TopGlobalRac1sm
Жыл бұрын
now xiphos is out, i can get 1k+ em and 248 ER, looks like a bit too much er
@fae_gavan7582
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer running the Amenoma on Kazuha, because of the energy refund, and good damage boost.
@ame5851
2 жыл бұрын
*Me with one fav in xingqiu* : wOw tHx foR thE ViD
@bimantorowp
2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt relate to me, my boy has 170 ER without any ER weapon nor ER sand
@igse2835
2 жыл бұрын
I pulled for freedom sworn on the albedo/eula banner. I don't mind the primos it cost me, but it is difficult to build the ER for him (currently running 160%, so I'm not touching that damn VV domain)
@thegoodMeow
2 жыл бұрын
I already farmed all the mats for a lvl 90 iron sting though ;(
@ThisLuvee
2 жыл бұрын
If you're able to hit 160% ER with EM/EM/EM Kazuha then use Iron Sting. If you can't, then use Favonius.
@thegoodMeow
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisLuvee I think I’m going to go with fav sword, I only need a few domain drops and I’ll still have around 850 EM
@quangamng
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisLuvee 200% ,160% if you are using raiden team
@Zajef77
2 жыл бұрын
Good video idea where did you yoink it from
@RamRam-fl6rv
Жыл бұрын
💀
@ruinthuessia1078
Ай бұрын
Are you and Zyox dating?
@dracsense_5610
7 күн бұрын
OM
@ChosenOne2524
2 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to say Iron sting isn't a shit weapon on him for the obvious reason that it gives Em, so it's a nice stat stick. However, the amount of energy Fav will give him and the rest of the team can be worth the em loss
@misereaa
2 жыл бұрын
just get better sub stats
@Internextion
2 жыл бұрын
@@misereaa 'just'
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
2 жыл бұрын
fav also reduces the ER requirement of the other party members, which is something that people often overlook because they think off field particles does not give you energy or something, idk
@Enforcer901
2 жыл бұрын
@@Internextion >me with 1k em 185 er. kzitem.info/news/bejne/0niZrZ2Gh5Okqqg He is right though, just get better artifacts.
@Internextion
2 жыл бұрын
@@Enforcer901 i could farm 3 200cv 4pc sets before i get those stats lmao, aint no way im investing that much time when i have a perfectly good fav sword lying around
@wishmaker48
2 жыл бұрын
"You don't need much crit rate to proc the favonius passive" My 5% cr kazuha says otherwise
@sirkimestry4524
2 жыл бұрын
I was a Fav preacher before it was cool. Thanks daddy Zajeff.
@SingularityHRT
2 жыл бұрын
The most important thing that You missed is that Fav has higher artifact stats than IronS. It was explained so clearly by I think Sevy. Adding Your explanation on how easy it is to proc Crit makes it much better.
@braveshine2579
2 жыл бұрын
4:33 I think Tenten cheated just showing 8 numbers instead of why 9 number.
@sbagas8369
2 жыл бұрын
This is actually very easy to understand. As kazuha barely give a shit about base attack, you should prioritize higher sub value on said weapon. Iron sting 157 EM is less than a fully upgraded arti main stats so you're missing a couple rolls there in turn for better base attack which is a waste for him.
@cookiemon6420
2 жыл бұрын
Then sac. Weapon is better
@SingularityHRT
2 жыл бұрын
@@cookiemon6420 Sac only gives Anemo Particles which doesn't benefit the team as much as white particles from Fav does.
@Tsugame
2 жыл бұрын
Higher artefact stat value is not important if u run fav, because u wouldnt need any more ER with fav alone. With that u just make all substats for sands,goblet and hat useless. Like tenten said if u have good artefacts run IronS(or any other EM Weapon) and if u have bad ones u run fav. Its not hard to have 20-25 Er on sands,goblet and hat with time with an artefact domain existing since 1.0 . Especially if u consider that max substat ER roll of 39%.
@ElementUser
2 жыл бұрын
It still depends though - my team works fine with Iron Sting on Kazuha because I have enough ER on all my units for my rotation already (and I don't want to farm more efficient artifacts for my other team members that have less ER to min-max their use case with Kazuha). For my use case and team builds, Iron Sting works the best for me because I get max EM without any downsides. And yes, this is in floor 12 Abyss runs. That being said, Favonius Sword or Sacrificial Sword are better items for more generalized teams.
@kokocute123
2 жыл бұрын
I discovered the Fav Sword info in Zajef's video about Kazuha Myths. When I swapped my Iron Sting for R5 Favonious Sword, my rotations and burst uptime problems disappeared.
@Andy.3
2 жыл бұрын
well yeah obviously, since fav sword gives more ER
@zzk8616
2 жыл бұрын
Sac or fav?
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
Get good artifacts for Kazuha then? Why would you use artifacts on him with little to no ER? This is like saying your Ayaka is better with Amenoma than Mistsplitter because you have no ER on her. Absurd.
@lol_Ozma
2 жыл бұрын
@@zzk8616 Fav, if you dont have Fav then Sac
@zHealthy
2 жыл бұрын
@@zzk8616 I do sac if the room has a lot of enemies and fav if its just a few
@huismands
2 жыл бұрын
I already knew this and have a fully leveled Favonius Sword, with a great EM artifact set! Now I just need a Kazuha...
@DougMarv
2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy ..
@0rokuSaki
2 жыл бұрын
Your 2/3 of the way there, lol GL on your pulls.
@saynamarti2084
2 жыл бұрын
Never i saw person standing in high and low ground at the same time.
@yk_903
2 жыл бұрын
Did you get him?
@seikuro9922
2 жыл бұрын
100 to 0 real quick
@sMv-Afjal
2 жыл бұрын
The only drawback for Favonius sword is that it is only avialable through gacha system, so refinement is difficult otherwise it is fantastic weapon for Kazuha. The new Kazuha weapon could have had 41 base attack at lev.1 with EM sub stat and the passive have increased ER like Oathsworn Eye or like Inazuma craftable sword, then it could have been a good alternative to Favoinus.
@whitecheeze_rf
2 жыл бұрын
If only...
@chuckguy120
2 жыл бұрын
Nonono gotta sell those weapon banner dude. You think you can just do a quest and get a good weapon for him for free?? No way. -mihoyo probably
@nabielabit7569
2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckguy120 albedo: 👀
@chuckguy120
2 жыл бұрын
@@nabielabit7569 In the case of albedo it's the other way around. They give away free 4 star weapon that is literally garbage for other any character but sooooo good and best in slot for albedo. They're selling albedo banner with that weapon. Of course i'm just talking out of my ass coz i'm not mihoyo but it's make sense right?
@pplwhoreplyisorangutan8543
2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckguy120 u are right about mhy trying to sell the weapon, but even if they release a low base atk em sword, it would still be only for kazuha and garbage for anyone else.
@GalahadJN
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on team comp it's not that clear cut. First of all, do you have other fav users? Do you have energy recharge stats? Bringing more than one or two fav users is overkill especially if you also roll good er substats. Heck, if you run him with Raiden then it becomes more of an issue. I hate this black and white this is good this is bad videos. Doesn't really paint the entire picture.
@millerwrightt
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's super not as clear cut as people are trying to make it right now. Thundering fury kazuha also gets way more particles, so he doesn't need fav either.
@liliaceae2212
2 жыл бұрын
@@millerwrightt y? TF kazuha? never seen that. but losing 40% shred is massive debuff loss
@wanaiman496
2 жыл бұрын
agree. iron sting is still a very good choice. yeah maybe fav is better but it doesnt mean that iron sting sucks. iron sting gives you bigger buff and also bigger swirl damage. not to mention that it is free to play
@millerwrightt
2 жыл бұрын
@@liliaceae2212 TF kazuha teams run another anemo for vv.
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
2 жыл бұрын
Iron sting kazuha only really becomes somewhat relevant in raiden teams, and even then fav provides more value, since raiden has a truckload of dmg%, which means an additional 165 em > 6.6% dmg bonus is trivial compared to the teamwide energy gain of fav. Raiden's battery is strong, but it does not negate all ER needs. Running fav kazuha means you can basically go buck wild in building offensive substats on the other characters, leading to overall higher dps. As an example, in a raiden-yelan-xingqiu-kazuha team, with 2 fav procs, you can run lower than 130 er on both yelan and xingqiu, which means yelan can comfortably run aqua and xingqiu can comfortably run jade cutter/mistsplitter while still being able to burst every rotation. Another benefit is that when you mess up the rotation, or the enemy just wont allow you to rotate perfectly, fav procs can salvage the situation.
@razvan1228
2 жыл бұрын
My Kazuha has 905 EM AND 183 ER with Iron Sting and 4p VV, and I haven't had any problems yet with rotations in any teams I tried him. His crit rate is 8%, and it's not worth to switch to favonius as long as he has good rotations.
@thekxngcon1740
2 жыл бұрын
This. Don't see a lot of people talk about it (Mostly cause it's actually rare to have enough ER with just sub stats alone on triple EM) but I think it should be mentioned that if you DO have the ER to burst off cooldown then you can run Iron Sting. Although technically you also lose the Favonius white particle energy sharing.
@EihaMudo
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, you win in the luck department. I have been farming for triple EM artifacts for an entire year and have not found a single EM artifact with decent substats ever. Last week alone i wasted 10 fragile resin and all i ever see is %defence/hp/atk artifacts and ONE em sands with dogshit substats. Not everyone is lucky dude and I dont blame them. I don't see myself ever upgrading my iron sting but to use it, I'll have no choice but to pray for c1 Kazuha, otherwise I am running Favonius in Spiral Abyss.
@seongyi5616
2 жыл бұрын
But you gotta think how much you need to actually min max that high em and er through subs alone. Reason why fav is better its because er from fav is higher than er in eon and em on eon is higher than IS. The idea of building a support should not be to the point you are min maxing their stats
@aura5788
2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@lukio3935
2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the exact same situation. Tenten's advice will apply to a big chunk of players who don't even think of building ER on Kazuha, but to say iron sting is garbage and ignore the very clear exceptions (high ER from subs, using him in hyper raiden) is to overcorrect too much
@FliponYT
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of shit I got for saying this
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe fav weapons are still underrated by the community almost 2 years after launch of genshin... Most broken 4* weapon series.
@Crono992
2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn’t still be but they were understandably overlooked prior to the advent of high burst cost characters and the Emblem set in Inazuma.
@impendio
2 жыл бұрын
I like sac weapons better because I like the extra skill cast, all those hydro particles and the nuke that is xingqiu’s skill 👌😌
@looots1320
2 жыл бұрын
thats because most people in the community only knows dmg per screenshot
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
@@Crono992 A lot of people have started realizing, but i still see that majority of the community doesn't understand just how good these weapons are. Even on the subreddit named "genshin impact *TIPS*" majority of the people still think iron sting is better. I'm not even gonna talk about other social media where more casuals dwell. Fav weapons need to get the love they deserve.
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
@@looots1320 Pretty much
@francissanchez3759
2 жыл бұрын
yes i would gladly use Favonius Sword on Kazuha but sadly i still don't have it that's why i'm using Iron Sting on him
@tabbune
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit it's Iron Sting not Iron String
@youshoulddie7251
2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if he’ll ever say it correctly
@Rex13013
2 жыл бұрын
Same with him saying characters instead of character when referring to a singular character. That or Xingqius
@TheRealTact
5 ай бұрын
@@Rex13013😂😂
@rigelali4248
2 жыл бұрын
If you have godly ER (say 160-180) from substat than you can go with Iron Sting. My Kazuha has 146% and he still needs to use E first after a rotation to get his burst full energy. So yes, I need to consider using Favonius Sword and swap my artifact with better crit and EM substat.
@GamingLovesJohn
2 жыл бұрын
I got him C1, and I have him at 150 ER. He gets his burst back relatively quickly because of the cooldown reset and cooldown reduction. So Iron Sting for more dmg :)
@AnaHernandez-ge1mi
2 жыл бұрын
I have 154% ER on him in just substas and c. I would consider changing if I haven't given my r5 fav sword to bennet 😭. Also I'm lacking an EM circle
@doug3454
2 жыл бұрын
really depends on the team. For Melt Ganyu and International even that wouldn't be enough.
@hirabikivr7944
2 жыл бұрын
I have 183 ER just from substats. When I do my freeze rotation correctly I have zero energy issues. Artifact luck can be unfair the other way around too. With Fav I get 245 ER and that got to be enough for any comp, not just melt Ganyu
@desertdust6969
2 жыл бұрын
@@AnaHernandez-ge1mi why Fav sword on Bennett? Bennett needs Highest base Atk sword You should get ER stats from Artifacts
@LiamHighducheck
2 жыл бұрын
Basically Iron sting + ER sands = 17 sub stats and fav sword + EM sands = 20 sub stats
@jeffreyh.1436
2 жыл бұрын
and fav passive
@Doki_LP
2 жыл бұрын
Running the Iron Sting, also makes you need to sacrifice even more substats for Er, which otherwise could've been used for more offensive substats. So theoretically the Fav sword is better than Iron Sting even in personal dmg. Then add the Er requirement reduction, which is certainly better than the 8% dmg bonus you lose, on top of that, with an r5 Fav sword you can proc the passive twice a rotation, as the cd is only 6 secs.
@finebook281
2 жыл бұрын
Are you accounting for the white particles lowering Kazuha's ER requirements? If so, I'm surprised Fav isn't higher
@LiamHighducheck
2 жыл бұрын
@@finebook281 nope
@ketomousketo3345
2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me the number of people that disregards ER just because they don't see big numbers on the screen. ER smoothes a lot the rotations and it simoligirs
@liliaceae2212
2 жыл бұрын
imagine sacrificing 50%+ ER / 3 orb particles every few seconds at r5 just for a 5% somewhere elemental dmg
@youmadbro7
2 жыл бұрын
6.6% elemental damage bonus*
@Cold812
2 жыл бұрын
Damage per screenshot
@emiyagilgameshh3844
2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you have 160% ER from your Artifacts then Iron Sting makes a lot more sense than Fav Sword. This Video applies for the masses that dont have good artifacts not for EndGame Players. Iron Sting>>>Favonius Sword if you have enough ER from Artifacts/ Favonius>>>Iron Sting if you have bad Artifact Quality.
@kingdoom5022
2 жыл бұрын
@@emiyagilgameshh3844 Even if you have 160% ER favionias sword is still worth it to battery your xiangling lol
@emiyagilgameshh3844
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingdoom5022 my Xiangling has 170 ER without ER Weapon or ER Sands she dosen't need more when I am running her together with Bennet.
@Nowaylarry
2 жыл бұрын
All these people in the comments defending their use of Iron Sting like "Well I have 200% ER even with Iron Sting so Fav is useless". Did you guys watch the video? The man stated Kazuha's energy needs. Obviously if you have enough ER with substats you can use Iron sting but there is also the extra energy for the WHOLE team when running Fav. Meaning less ER stats needed on your hyper carries or sub-dps characters. That equates to extra damage. If you can drop 20 ER in substats for an extra 15% atk or 14% crit damage on someone like Ayaka that is very much worth it.
@aerohydra3849
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is what people are missing. Fav is so good because it drops ER reqs on not only Kazuha, but also EVERY other party member. It's like a makeshift Venti A4 or Raiden energy refund, and it frees up 4-5 ER rolls to be invested into offensive subs. If you can trigger it twice it's even more ER rolls freed. The passive alone already makes it better than Iron Sting from a pure DPS perspective in any team, even not considering Kazuha's own ER requirements. It's insane how good Fav is, it gives essentially 100 ER to the wielder and 20-30 ER to every other character in the party.
@Gennosuke1983
2 жыл бұрын
You don't determine the BiS weapon with mediocre artifacts, that's the problem with this video. With enough ER% from substats, Iron Sting is better, it's that simple. It's like saying Jade Cutter is BiS on Ayaka if you have 0% CR% on substats. Yeah, because your artifacts are trash. With normal artifacts, Mistsplitter is BiS for Ayaka and there's no argument
@aerohydra3849
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gennosuke1983 It's not though. My argument in the previous comment is that the passive alone already makes Favonius better than Iron Sting DPS-wise in most Kazuha teams, even with adequate ER on Kazuha. And, the other thing is that TC is about efficiency and realism and not just peak potential. TC do not assume that people will get lucky enough to get +100% ER from substats alone on a 4pc VV EM set. Just like how TC do not assume people can get a R5 Homa in a single ten pull (honestly, this is probably more likely than getting 200 ER on full EM VV build lmao). Additionally, realize that every resin spent trying to get VV EM pieces with high ER subs is resin that isn't used to level characters or farming other artifacts. You know 100 ER from artifact subs is 4 ER rolls per piece right? That is actually 5x harder to farm than a 200 CV high investment ADC build because you need EM pieces which are already the rarest mainstat and can only roll in to a single substat instead the many offensive subs ADC characters need. Iron Sting is just a stupid weapon that 99% of Kazuhas should not be running and the people defending using it simply haven't done the math.
@FBl
2 жыл бұрын
That one KZitemr who made that video about how Fav and Sac are better than Iron Sting started an actual wave in Genshin KZitem. Now everyone, I mean everyone, is making videos about it and acting like it was their idea. They were recommending Iron Sting literally a day before that one video.
@twalker5801
2 жыл бұрын
Fav doesn’t work on my Kazuha with 13% crit rate 🙁
@MRLawrence99
2 жыл бұрын
Use Sac Sword
@kokocute123
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this vital information to the community! I really appreciate the charts and calculations you did. I've seen people R5 their Iron Sting and spend so many resources on it while having Favonious Sword underdeveloped and benched. People forget Kazuha's main role revolves around his burst and rotations, not his personal anemo damage.
@chuckguy120
2 жыл бұрын
No his personal swirl damage is also massive. But the difference in damage and buffing capability between fav and iron string is insignificant and not using his burst (which usually the case for iron sting) is a major damage lost so that's why it's better to have high enough ER for burst even if you have to trade some EM for it.
@iScream2367
2 жыл бұрын
well everyone is talking about fav sword on kazuha now even tho he's out for more than a year now...and everyone used to have iron sting on him. Suddenly everyone's reccomending fav sword lmao
@NoahSSP
2 жыл бұрын
@@iScream2367 Yeah, funny ain't it :')
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
TenTen literally keeps repeating his point that the swirl dmg is big & that is why he suggest Fav Sword. You missed the entire reason his logic is so awful.
@musicaddict9058
2 жыл бұрын
@@iScream2367 Zajef has been calling people onto fav train for months now, too bad he doesn't have such a big reach into the community like kektone or icringetolose
@echo5535
2 жыл бұрын
Iron sting is just a stat stick, favonius/sacrificial better
@Riyozsu
2 жыл бұрын
For specific characters who do burst DMG. Not characters like ganyu or hutao skill or if your other characters can't get er. For raiden, yelan fav sword is overkill and you are better off with iron sting for extra 10% bonus DMG just from the sword.
@TintchyFTW
2 жыл бұрын
Me seeing the title, ahh yes fav sword is much better ill equip it. Comes to the realization that I don't have it. Damn
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
Good. It's factually worse unless your artifacts are bad.
@mattgriffin0231
2 жыл бұрын
why are you getting dislikes for being right LOL There are obviously exceptions at times where Iron Sting is better, but 99% of the time it's a nerf to Kazuha and his team compared to Fav
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
2 жыл бұрын
🌸😹It would be an argument all would be fascinated about and that all would never be the same after!😹🌸
@lukaskrause6022
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet. But I think a big reason people have misconceptions about how much ER they “need” on their units is bc they’re biased because of the overworld. In the overworld, where you’re perma using just your skill to kill mobs & getting way more HP particles, you obviously have way lower ER requirements. So people say things like “but MY burst is usually up” and ignore ER reqs bc they generally don’t feel them bc theyre biased by how their characters “feel” in overworld. Pointing out this cognitive bias is important IMO to correcting the low energy Andys
@RA-ux3fu
2 жыл бұрын
Or even in abyss depending on the floor, white particles from monsters can significally reduce ER requirements. Unless ur running units w ult costs greater than 80 without a battery, ER is hardly an issue
@1ryb360
2 жыл бұрын
In over world you actually get your burst less consistently (which is a large part of why in 1.0 people thought Bennett wasn't good, and why Diluc was over-estimated). But in over world you don't actually need to use his burst. You just cast his skill and it would have killed most trash mobs. And that's why people thought they don't need that much ER. But even in abyss, people generally need less ER than theoretically calculated because the calculations don't take into account enemy particles. Which imo is the real reason why people often think "well my burst is up", and they would be correct. Which also means iron sting is actually better on kazuha than tenten make it out to be. That said, fav sword is just overall more versatile and the passive is a lot more useful. So fav sword should still be the go-to choice unless you know exactly what you are doing.
@finebook281
2 жыл бұрын
Most players also don't understand that spending 5-20 seconds to battery their characters is a MASSIVE DPS loss. So they think if they can get their burst back pretty soon after their rotation ends, they have "enough" ER
@willpickering5829
2 жыл бұрын
In overworks sac sword feels the best
@blankness8
2 жыл бұрын
ngl i get my burst way faster in abyss than i do in overworld, though.
@LandryArri
2 жыл бұрын
"Just get better ER substat" - Commenter Basically we can conduct mass scale Dunning-Kruger test with them as a subject.
@user-nv5tm9xs8f
2 жыл бұрын
unpopular opinion: If it works, it works Use the weapon best fit with the artifacts you have then move from there, and then if you can do the sht you usually do fairly easily then you good
@Riyozsu
2 жыл бұрын
Actually the meta opinion is the unpopular one. Going for whatever weapon we want is the best opinion.
@aniketpandey2524
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have a black sword on her and it does way better than both favonious and iron sting. I have tried all three for 2days.. I have an above average VV set on him and he is lvl 80 with lvl 7 talents. I know it is mostly because of my play style.. so check urs. Also my team is kazuha as dps, klee sub dps + Pyro support, jean/Barbara healer support, xiangling or fischl...
@sallyhope2137
2 жыл бұрын
...I mean, this is a theorycrafting video. It's not just about "what works, works" but "what works best".
@user-nv5tm9xs8f
2 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean here but then again the purpose of my comments is to show that if you lvl 90 r5 your iron sting and it works, dont feel bad about doing it and again if it works it works
@AhmadIzzuddinGaming
2 жыл бұрын
I have to consider my life choices watching this after building an iron sting for kazuha
@ezurachan
2 жыл бұрын
Tell my past self that before she craft iron stings to get it to R3. 🙃
@desertdust6969
2 жыл бұрын
It's still not a waste if you do Nukes Or in the Future you will get EM pieces with good ER substats
@tasha2749
2 жыл бұрын
Give it to bennet and play on field dps bennet its actually quite decent especially in double hydro bennet xl comp
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
Iron Sting is better if you actually don't have awful artifacts. Don't let the math guys fool you, they get things wrong all the time. They still won't accept how good Yoimiya is
@dawensci7134
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaikawasumi we are the meta boys
@Iyoverse
2 жыл бұрын
After listening to this video it makes more sense why some of my folks were telling me that Fav Sword was a better option than Iron Sting, but since my main purpose for Kazuha was to slap him w/ Raiden & Yelan, then Iron Sting works out better for me. I want all the damage. xD
@daniel698324
2 жыл бұрын
The genshin community will be able to move foward once they realize that favonius weapons are the best set of weapons in the game and overcome their fear of build their characters with ER
@danishluqman2832
2 жыл бұрын
And their obsession with big numbera
@whatchasayin9363
2 жыл бұрын
True. I run almost my team in the abyss with favonius weapons and the rotation is so smooth. No big PP damage but consistent damage. Favonius weapons plus the Emblem set is a killer duo.
@dragonskinner7109
2 жыл бұрын
No? That's just moving backwards.
@quangamng
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonskinner7109 wdym
@dragonskinner7109
2 жыл бұрын
@@quangamng We already know everything above but he wants to push for more people to "overcome their fear of building ER" which is simply not true. Nobody is afraid of doing this it's just that if you can have the bare minimum ER and maximizie dmg/atk stats or EM it's better to do that than ER
@user-hh7yt3cb5f
2 жыл бұрын
R5 iron sting havers coping hard on comment section
@ThisLuvee
2 жыл бұрын
Less coping on the refinement and more on the clickbait. This video is just straight up implying Iron Sting is worse when they're pretty equal in terms of value for Kazuha.
@quangamng
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisLuvee not really ,iron sting is worse than fav most of the time
@towa7916
2 жыл бұрын
Bro I litteraly have 160er only with my artifact sub stats so for me, this was a waste of time lol. Still, he have nice points. Kazuha needs er.
@hankocpharung1383
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say that Favonius Sword is a good weapon to run on Kazuha but Iron sting with its EM sub is already more valuable than F.S for me personally because I run him on High ER team and My Burst has 100% up time on my whole team so there is just no point for me to run F.S. And Iron Sting is free while F.S is Gatcha. Also You will be running Tripple EM so you can Hunt ER but not EM. Therefore Iron Sting is better to me if you are running EM Kazuha.
@yunexxe
2 жыл бұрын
my kazuha has some crit while having full EM set, so i switched to fav sword recently
@yubinator7455
2 жыл бұрын
1000 EM isn't worth it if you have a low ER. Also, I found out the difference of 800 EM to the 1000 EM on the Elemental DMG is small so it isn't worth it to have 1000 EM if you are just gonna use him as a DMG buffer IMO.
@frostkie8002
2 жыл бұрын
Plus with surplus EM it tends to have diminishing returns which was proven long time ago
@craiver00
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if 8% more elemental damage is considered small. If we look at elemental reaction damage multiplier alone then yes, the diminishing return is significant.
@aerohydra3849
2 жыл бұрын
@@craiver00 It's not that big, especially since most teams where you run Kazuha generally already have pretty high elemental damage bonus stat. For example, Childe and Xiangling already have 90 and 120% dmg bonus respectively without Kaz buff, and so 6.6% extra elemental damage bonus only result in about a 2.5-3% DPS increase.
@yoi.miya77
2 жыл бұрын
its worth if u dont have a energy issue
@yubinator7455
2 жыл бұрын
@@yoi.miya77 Basically what I said but you just switched the words.
@murkvengor2184
2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail saying raising Iron Sting is a mistake really kinda tilted me, what people need to understand is that although it is not Best in Slot for better Slash consistency people also need to consider their account overall. Not only is Iron Sting F2P friendly (which allows you to use Favonius on another character that could benefit from it if you do have one) it also has a higher potential ceiling if you get TONS of ER sub stats. Leveling Iron Sting up will never be a waste of materials or a quote to quote “mistake” as it can also very well be used on other units like Jean. It only has less consistency on a basic level of investment.
@digivagrant
2 жыл бұрын
>shills for a GACHA weapon that's only "decent" above R3 coz R1 is copium. >a weapon that force you to pray to RNJesus that your EM gear has good Crit% otherwise you lose EM for a Crit cap Tenten's genius build is for payers, not f2p friendly.
@Spider2B
2 жыл бұрын
Also want to mention that a high refine sac sword is also very viable if you don't have a fav sword. Trade-off is slightly more field time and needing er over crit substats.
@plotius
2 жыл бұрын
Legit what I have to run, Got 2 r5 sac swords and 1 r1 fav sword
@sallyhope2137
2 жыл бұрын
Slightly more field time is not a problem since then you'll just be following his c1 rotations instead.
@sensibleDuck893
2 жыл бұрын
I still use him with Iron Sting since i use him with Raiden Shogun 😅 I wanted to use him in International but Sucrose is better in that team. Also i have c1 Kazuha which kind of solves his energy problems for me.
@NikolasThane
2 жыл бұрын
In no case is Sucrose better than Kazuha in International Lmao. Kazuha provides better CC and Better uptime on Swirl as well as more damage. Sucrose is better in a few teams and thats when you want the EM she provides that if you have C2 Kazuha he just does it better.
@sallyhope2137
2 жыл бұрын
@@NikolasThane National team is ALWAYS better with Sucrose than Kazuha, even if he's c6. Saying "no case" is plain wrong.
@NikolasThane
2 жыл бұрын
@@sallyhope2137 Even C6 Succrose does not beat Kazuha it just comes cloose or even. As for c2 Kazuha he strait up just beats Sucrose so yeah. IN NO CASE is Sucrose better than Kazuha. But keep dreaming.
@itsdarkhere
2 жыл бұрын
13:44 TenTen you should have stoped there even if it's an explantion video we know the field time of kazuha is dps loss and most won't wait for those tics to count and even after this the probability is decently high but giving kazuha extra tics wasn't nessasary
@yoba867
2 жыл бұрын
Sac, Fav and Iron are all situational, substat and team dependent. Running Fav with bad crit is a grief. Running Fav with Raiden is a grief unless you somehow rng'd into 0 er subs. Running fav if you hit ER requirements is a grief.
@jcp5302
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That’s why I just use different weapons depending on the team or situation. If I’m running Raiden hypercarry, I’ll put Iron sting since Raiden will battery. If I need more ER for just Kazuha(such as in melt Ganyu), I’ll use Skyward since I’ll also get more personal damage than with Favonius. If I’m using a team that’s very energy dependent and sometimes lacking such as international, then I’ll use Favonius for that extra utility. This is all with my Kazuha having 50/145 crit, 900 EM and 120 ER( with Iron sting and ofc a crit damage circlet with lots of EM rolls bc I can’t get an EM VV circlet 😭)
@birb2353
2 жыл бұрын
it really is great to have favonious sword on kazuha but it just happens that i got lucky on vv with triple EM (922 EM) and 170% ER that's why im still using iron sting on him.
@miscellaneous7777
2 жыл бұрын
I have 140% ER and 1013 EM
@edgarkdb3403
2 жыл бұрын
I hope this extremely common misconception about iron sting disappears in near future, since more people started realising that fav Kazuha is much better
@jofol1757
2 жыл бұрын
fav sword was definitely underrated on Kazhua, so glad the R5 fav sword sitting in my inventory is in good use now
@igse2835
2 жыл бұрын
@ShiftYourCarcass so the same thing Tenten says in the video ( 11:30 ). We get it, you wasted 5 prototypes on iron sting, but don't come here with your clownery
@ミラー-u8l
2 жыл бұрын
@ShiftYourCarcass or you could just get enough er and em for kazuha, then spend the rest of your resin for emblem
@edgarkdb3403
2 жыл бұрын
@ShiftYourCarcass fav still decreases energy requirements for your whole team, making more room for more offensive stats available.
@edgarkdb3403
2 жыл бұрын
@ShiftYourCarcass if you wanna sacrifice 61% ER and white particles for your whole team for 5% more elemental dmg bonus and a bit more swirl dmg, u do ur own thing. No need to demonstrate to everyone how much of a clown you are and have no idea what are you talking about.
@NoryLevi
2 жыл бұрын
Half of the comments are like: Just get lucky like me and get good er subs 4Head
@srzarz3017
2 жыл бұрын
I use iron sting cause I’m broke and it’s the only sword I can use, seems like the best weap to me since it’s free too
@miyukihikawa18
2 жыл бұрын
I only run fav sword since, I got his burst back a lot faster compared to other the weapons I got, plus I have 400+ EM on him, so I think I'm good, well until I lvl Kazuha to lvl 90 of course. ^_^
@keysos
2 жыл бұрын
try aiming at least 700 em whilr equipped with fav sword and you'll be good
@aldenespineli3428
2 жыл бұрын
I'm using amenoma on him. it kinda helps with energy and it looks nice.
@aestheticspinalcord3713
2 жыл бұрын
no
@rizkyadamrinaldy3268
2 жыл бұрын
My artifact is rigged. My EM is 628 and 149% ER. I use Iron Sting, Attack Sand, EM Goblet, and Crit rate circlet. 59% crit rate and 109% crit damage. What do you think guys? Should I re-farm the artifact?
@chikapu3128
2 жыл бұрын
just save artifacts from other domains, vv added in scambox in 3.0
@tama2774
2 жыл бұрын
Both Fav and Iron sting sucks, Kagutsurobe Isshin gang is the way
@steffie3148
2 жыл бұрын
I always run kazuha in Ayaka freeze comp, the 15% crit rate from the cryo resonance helps alot to proc fav sword
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
2 жыл бұрын
Did Ayaka use 4 piece blizzard staryer set?
@steffie3148
2 жыл бұрын
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 yes always
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
2 жыл бұрын
@@steffie3148 ignore 15% crit rate can't be frozen enemies like bosses?
@steffie3148
2 жыл бұрын
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603 cryo resonance: increase crit rate against enemies that are Frozen or Affected by Cryo. It doesnt have to be frozen, as long as there is cryo status in the enemies :)
@arocomisgamusclademork1603
2 жыл бұрын
@@steffie3148 but what if enemies has other element status like Pyro and electro? Crit rate 15%?
@highpresurenerd7662
2 жыл бұрын
Me who runs a 940 EM kazoo in a TF Yelan carry team. "huh....well...anyway"
@bentelog1445
2 жыл бұрын
I think iron sting w r1 kazuha works pretty well for me, but if I would run a c0 kazuha, i’d definitely use fav sword.
@dragonskinner7109
2 жыл бұрын
If you have ER problems with Iron Sting you're probably using Kazuha wrong.
@zBryan-mq9nl
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@VictusPrime
2 жыл бұрын
My Kazuha would have over 200% ER if I used Fav sword, which just seems like overkill for a 60 energy burst cost. But I suppose the white particles is decent for the team as well tho.
@whitecheeze_rf
2 жыл бұрын
Generally it would a overkill, but if you're using Kazuha for a team like Melt Ganyu that doesn't give many energy particles, 200%ER is actually a good thing
@VictusPrime
2 жыл бұрын
@@whitecheeze_rf Oh that's good. I planned on trying Kazuha-Ganyu melt team.
@pete2611
2 жыл бұрын
letter R where in sting modcheck?
@OlBlO2l2lllZ
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about this. In my experience, Anemo Characters just gets their Burst back without any funneling needed or ER. I don't get the ER obsession with Kazuha. Especially since you really don't need his burst that much in a Full EM Build. His Second passive which is why we build full EM doesn't really need his Burst to Work it just needs a Swirl if you have c6 you can do it with Normal Attacks. Plus the VV set resistance shred needs you to be On-field too. You can double swirl with 1 kazuha Skill. In an EM build the First slash of Kazuha Slash is all you need to trigger his 2nd passive and the VV set. The 5 DoT of his Burst in an EM build is really just bonus off-field damage.
@seiraaina2067
2 жыл бұрын
umm... go check timestamp and go to 'why elem burst is important'. in raiden hypercarry team, melt ganyu team, freeze team, etc, the extra elemental application from his burst is just very helpful in ensuring that your dps can proc reactions, and it also does quite a lot of swirl damage. the burst also functions as a backup in case you mess up double swirling your e. AND if you're running favonius, you can get away with less crit rate since kazu's ult can also trigger fav's passive.
@OlBlO2l2lllZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@seiraaina2067 In case you don't know Favonius Passive doesn't work if the character that uses it is off the field. Like I said in my first point the most important part of kazuha's burst is the Initial Slash. Since its the thing that triggers every buff and defuff he does. So your less crit rate take is kind of wrong. You will need crit rate so your skill can proc that Favonius passive. The DoT yeah it's useful in vape and melt but usually its Xiangling that is more consistent and long Lasting Pyro Applicator on a Melt Ganyu and Vape teams. If You have C6 Ganyu and Speed runner those swirls with pyro application are more useful but a C0 Ganyu will still rely on Xiangling.
@seiraaina2067
2 жыл бұрын
@@OlBlO2l2lllZ really? I tested it on kuki's and it produced particles 😅 Did i miss something.
@OlBlO2l2lllZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@seiraaina2067 On-field Kuki yeah it will work before you swap out. It will not work Off-field. Try it on Xingqui ultimate. You have 2 chances to make it work since it last for 15 seconds.
@OlBlO2l2lllZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@seiraaina2067 I don't wanna be that guy but I'm gonna be that guy... that drops a video link so You can watch to prove yourself wrong again. Only if you want of course. 3:04 is the exact timestamp that will dismantle your point. kzitem.info/news/bejne/ta1ttoeanmiSoJw
@giorgitsintsadze9048
2 жыл бұрын
i have iron sting, tripple em artifacts with nearly 900em and 180% energy recharge, what't ur excuse for running fav one him now? i never have energy problems even with running him solo i get 36 stars, your just taking a dps loss with fav when u can have stats like me and still have burst on cooldown with iron sting.
@QuackEasy
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to do this. Sadly that evil nefarious mist splitter banner gave me 12 Favonius bows and 7 bells leaving only 2 copies of Favonius sword.
@looots1320
2 жыл бұрын
I tested fav sword and iron sting before like almost a year ago on kazuha and the dmg difference was so insignificant that I just put r5 Fav sword cause you know R5
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
Hard copium. 16.5% of your Kazuha's realistically ideal 1k EM value (& more if you're under that 1k) is insignificant? You're losing out on both his dmg & the buff. That adds up very quickly.
@PedroLucas-dt2nn
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaikawasumi 160 elemental mastery only gives you about 6%~8% elemental dmg bonus
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
@@PedroLucas-dt2nn On top of increasing his own personal dmg. Sounds worth it to me. That's about half of a Xiangling & Bennett C6. I'll take that over not utilizing the substats at all & worthless energy. Once your burst is at 100% the extra energy doesn't do anything. I thought this was obvious but literal thousands of people seem to not know this.
@KenEurolfan
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaikawasumi the damage is 6.6% only. youre sacrificing that small of an damage boost for better fluid rotations and battery capabilities for your team, the presence of an favonious weapon itself on a team allows you to run less ER on ur units not just kazuha. and youre not wasting any energy at all when it can be used by your teammates LOL, and running triple EM + favonius actually has better sub-stat value than running Iron sting. Go watch sevyplay's explanation on this as she also provided ACTUAL MATH, Ill gladly link you the video :) kzitem.info/news/bejne/s66p24WBn4yXqoo Im not shitting on iron sting as its still good if you want the maximum em possible and if youre running teams that want low er%(Raiden) or just if you just have godly subs of ER which not everyone is lucky enough to have.
@kaikawasumi
2 жыл бұрын
@@KenEurolfan I'm not coping with low crit Fav weapons. I'm good on that. idk how it's better substat value when you cannot get EM substas on 3 of your 5 artifacts. Sounds like twisting math to say what they want it to say like most TCs do with Yoimiya.
@Eclin
2 жыл бұрын
Iron sting sucks(a bit harsh, what i want to say is, that thing is just a stat stick). The player base need to realize how good ER is as a stat.
@6s166
2 жыл бұрын
the general playerbase don't give a damn about how important er is in rotations and only care about big damage numbers its kinda sad.
@joeltoomer3332
2 жыл бұрын
On kazu it’s not bad if you have enough er or using him with raiden that would be overkill
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