I’m beginning to doubt whether all countries with “Democratic” in their names are fully committed to the democratic process.
@osheridan
Жыл бұрын
From what I understand, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste is the only democracy with Democratic in its name.
@andrewlakhach4806
Жыл бұрын
Democracy is a totalitarian reign of democrats you know:)
@rosam674
Жыл бұрын
Democracy is a colonial import to Africa. Africans have misunderstood and interpreted it in a disastrous way. Because it is foreign. Not a good fit for the diverse demography. What is best for Africa is to go back to traditional communal systems of governance that were based on consensus. These are native to the continent and worked well before colonialists disrupted them. There was no poverty and no rampant corruption then.
@maddogbasil
Жыл бұрын
I guess that's what happens when you've got French Guns behind your head 🤷♂️
@neutralboi1984
Жыл бұрын
@@osheridanFederal Democratic Republic of Nepal
@dorianodet8064
Жыл бұрын
I mean, as of now, the military deposing a corrupt dictator with public support and no bloodshed don't seem very concerning. What they'll do now raise question though.
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
Be carful.Nigeria and his friend want to invade
@Inkan1969
Жыл бұрын
You can never trust military coup leaders. The sooner they leave, the better.
@LarzGustafsson
Жыл бұрын
That's what Ghadaffi did in Libya too. But NATO had to murder him.
@Inkan1969
Жыл бұрын
@@LarzGustafsson That's not what at all what he did. Gadhafi trapped the Libyan people in a 42 year old dictatorship that should've ended in 1969.
@DoubleWhopperWithCheese
Жыл бұрын
@@Inkan1969he wasn't a good guy by and means but to say he didn't help the lives of ordinary Libyans would be a bit of a lie, stability, free gas and electricityc (and I think water)
@bababababababa6124
Жыл бұрын
This is the only one of these coups that might end up beneficial for the country it’s happening in. Gabon is by far the wealthiest and most stable country out of all of the coups recently
@ANDREALEONE95
Жыл бұрын
The leader of the coup is Bongo's cousin. Don't except much
@fongangamassana6034
Жыл бұрын
It’s the complete opposite. The other countries have much better chances of improving their situations than Gabon after this coup . Just seeing who is in charge and looking at their actions tells you everything.
@CoolManCoolMan123
Жыл бұрын
@@fongangamassana6034Well, other coups are considered bad because Russians involved.
@Rosannasfriend
Жыл бұрын
All African COUPS are good. Don’t let the stupid western propaganda convince you otherwise, lol.
@samuilpetkov497
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolManCoolMan123 Not only, look at the rise of violence and terrorism in Mali, CAF and the other countries lead by military juntas.
@hisvin
Жыл бұрын
The father, the son and the nephew, the story of Gabon, a family story.
@royalroyal2210
Жыл бұрын
And never once any calls for intervention for their sham democracy
@farhanatashiga3721
Жыл бұрын
Looks like all this happened because little cousin isn't getting the allowance he wanted
@abimaelrequena3315
Жыл бұрын
H D
@ssf7777
Жыл бұрын
@@farhanatashiga3721😊
@individual746b3
Жыл бұрын
I'm imagining this as a southen us country advert abouta brand of whisky or cookies
@peterporkeresq.2817
Жыл бұрын
Of course, you get 'political stability' when one family has been ruling for over 50 years.
@TheSpiritombsableye
Жыл бұрын
If this is the full story, I am not complaining about a coup over there.
@jamese5936
Жыл бұрын
Gabon actually has hope. The people there aren't too quick to violence like the Sahel region which is why inspite of the poverty it has been fairly stable. At this point only the military can really f this up. If they just run free elections and ban the previous family from holding any position of power, then this could really be the beginning of a free Gabon.
@goganii
Жыл бұрын
@@jamese5936doubt it Why would the military abandon power? Also I heard that one of the coup leaders is from the Bongo family aswell
@afarjumri
Жыл бұрын
It's not the full story, as we don't know, if the coup will improve the situation.
@MimOzanTamamogullar
Жыл бұрын
@@goganiiThe democracy in my country was also established by the military which is far from ideal but better than a dictatorship.
@derrickthewhite1
Жыл бұрын
Its a lot harder to object to this one... but lets make sure that we don't rate these new leaders too high just because the old leaders were corrupt.
@khanoclast
Жыл бұрын
You say around 4:20 they were a politically stable country, yet they were ostensibly a dictatorship supported by France and a metric crap-tonne of oil. So they were as stable as Libya, with France instead of Italy in their history.
@DoctorCyan
Жыл бұрын
France was a lot closer to Gabon (and all the former colonies in Africa) than Italy ever was to anybody else. Big, big difference.
@Burnt.Ice.Cream.
Жыл бұрын
France "gives" independence to a colony, placing a group at the head of the country, puppets who let France loot the resources while closing a blind eye on the abuse of power, corruption and looting that the "presidents" of these ex colonies do themselves. Without these poor countries with tones of resources France would not be the power it is today. If only it benefited the french population, but it doesn't, the majority of french people struggle, the majority of people of the colonies and ex colonies live in misery, If anyone wants to see how France sees its former colonies and present colonies (french territories) all it takes is looking at how poor and degraded those places are. Liberté, égalité, fraternité, the biggest lie ever proclaimed by the French governments.
@ethanyoung.
Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorCyan Very true. Another difference is that the removal of Ghadaffi was followed by deep, fractional political violence that persists to this day. We will see if that difference soon becomes a shared similarity in the proceeding months.
@savioblanc
Жыл бұрын
A stable dictatorship might sometimes be a better option than a chaotic democracy, that will lead to civil war and bloodshed. The choice is between one Mafia Don or multiple gang lords all vying for power. Both are terrible options. But sometimes you gotta choose the less worse option.
@tola1526
Жыл бұрын
Some corrections: 1. Gabon is Central, not West Africa 2. Sudan was a British colony, not French
@mightyx5441
Жыл бұрын
H.....how did he get those wrong that like the thing i can eye from looking at a map
@kwabenakone8057
Жыл бұрын
What makes this coup different is that they fell from Macron's grace despite some 110 French companies operating in Gabon. Hence, Bongo's call for help in English😂
@skyemilk
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@VMohdude-
Жыл бұрын
And Bongo only fell from grace of France because they started investigating his corruption links😂
@MrRedsjack
Жыл бұрын
@@VMohdude- France sentenced several bongo family members to jail
@leopoldnguessan4639
Жыл бұрын
Under Bongo, Gabon is in the Commonwealth
@tcjusttc5418
Жыл бұрын
The irony, after shutting the international observers from the elections, and shutting down the internet. The irony of sending a video through the internet for help must not be lost on him.
@Ava-wu4qp
Жыл бұрын
I think this specific coup might actually be justified. While the likely instability is rather unpalatable, what good is stability if it's holding up a system hurting so many people?
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
Hypocrit. if this was justified then Niger too
@MrRedsjack
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes stability is worth more than Money. So many times I have seen corrupt African states which had unfairly low but somewhat acceptable standard of living fall into civil war and be completely ruined for decades. Better to eat a smaller meal than to get shot. Also with stability even if ruined by corruption there is usually growth. Gabon average salary of 500$ is far ahead of most of the rest of Africa. Also Gabon jobs are mostly comfortable goverment jobs with only minimal work requirements that the Bongos gave to people to secure their loyalty almost a form of welfare. Also Gabon has almost free healthcare (85% of all medical bills paid by the state, 100% for maternity and a few others) which isn't completely crap and free education up to high school. If a war starts and different armed group fight over the oil fields like in Libya Gabon people will see how bad things can be.
@sabin97
Жыл бұрын
no. all of them are. europe(which includes canada, usakistan and australia, as the ruling classes there are european)needs to realize the days of slavery are to be ended, by force if necessary.
@davidmichels5295
Жыл бұрын
@@MrRedsjackyes good thing China has a very stable government!
@T-h-a-t_G-u-y
Жыл бұрын
@@sabin97
@scvboy1
Жыл бұрын
I love how this guy frames basically an absolute monarchy as “political stability”. By that logic North Korea would be more “politically stable” than South Korea since the south has suffered many coups while the north has “stable leadership”.
@___.51
Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t even know what he’s saying, the man just reads out loud relevant Wikipedia and news articles. This content is the definition of a polished turd.
@papastalin6816
Жыл бұрын
I mean if we were in the 20th century than yea. NK was more stable and technically is still more stable than SK.
@WXRBL666
Жыл бұрын
cuz it was supported by the Western countries, hence 'politically stable' instead of a dictatorship
@merrymachiavelli2041
Жыл бұрын
Yes. It is. Political stability doesn't necessarily mean a government is 'good'. Absolute monarchies could be pretty politically stable, relatively speaking.
@scvboy1
Жыл бұрын
You would never here a western commentator refer to North Korea as "politically stable" though.@@merrymachiavelli2041
@quatreunhuit
Жыл бұрын
0:40 > former french colonies. > Shows Sudan
@hamada3ido125
Жыл бұрын
i guess its recent war between the the army and RSF, so he shows countries with sighs of instability.
@Roytulin
Жыл бұрын
At 0:43, I should note that Sudan is not a former French colony, it is a former British-Egyptian territory, and de facto a former British colony.
@Vhmvd
Жыл бұрын
They never showed it tho! The first map was referring to where recent coups happened.
@farhanatashiga3721
Жыл бұрын
He said many not all.
@Roytulin
Жыл бұрын
@@farhanatashiga3721 You read the lines the wrong way round. ‘All former French colonies’ would include Indochina, small parts of India, and even some current French overseas departments. ‘Many former French colonies’ does not indicate that many but not all of those shown are former French colonies, but that many but not all of the former French colonies experienced it.
@jatinkumar7287
Жыл бұрын
When politics is all about family then these results happens. Even major countries like India has this problem where it's party push one politician child to be elected over other party members.
@miniaturejayhawk8702
Жыл бұрын
Its not a problem, its natural. Dynasties have and always will exist in politics. Its beneficial to everyone involved because it provides consistency. We all know the saying: "Like father, like son."
@guydreamr
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, look what happened to us here in the US when Bush Jr was elected. 🤣🤣
@simonwesthoff5121
Жыл бұрын
Better yet, Bongo’s cousin is head of the Presidential Guard that overthrew him
@danishh8454
Жыл бұрын
Indians have option to choose thrir leader
@vooyas.mp4
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Bongo Sr. was in bed with French oil companies tells us everything we need to know.
@alexanderx33
Жыл бұрын
What a fun sentence. "Clearly Bongo Junior isn't actually popular in Gabon"
@terrynewsome6698
Жыл бұрын
Small correction sudan isn't a former French colony, it was a formerly British colony
@ferna4872
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the British destroy everything
@makeytgreatagain6256
Жыл бұрын
Gabon isn’t in west Africa either. But these lot don’t know much
@lucaslevinsky8802
Жыл бұрын
He didn't highlighted Sudan in blue
@erfinder23
Жыл бұрын
I think its more abit the fact that sudan had a military Coup last year.
@evilmex1962
Жыл бұрын
day without a coup is day wasted
@DrVictorVasconcelos
Жыл бұрын
So, it was already a self-coup situation. Military coups are always bad--popular coups are ideal in these situations, but this one doesn't seem as bad as the recent ones. By the way, people: don't take term limits for granted. Time in power changes people. T >= 10 years is problematic.
@toyotaprius79
Жыл бұрын
T>=10 for change over? Ireland for example
@pomx89
Жыл бұрын
@@toyotaprius79 Admit it, it's bad!
@tomitiustritus6672
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean with "popular coup". As far as i understand, a coup d'etat by definition is when a part of the state aparatus takes over the state in a swift strike(coup=strike). By definition not a popular impulse, although sometimes celebrated by the public. Sorry if that's nitpicky, but i see "coup" being used a lot in a facetious way to discredit revolutions or revolts.
@insu_na
Жыл бұрын
@@tomitiustritus6672 there are different types of coup, there are military coups, congressional coups or revolutionary coups (among others) with popular coup he probably meant a coup that is endorsed and supported by the general populace
@tanostrelok2323
Жыл бұрын
@@tomitiustritus6672 "Revolution" most often just means a coup carried by the left
@KingofAwesomness14
Жыл бұрын
so bongo did this to himself. He took a stable nation and threw it away, now he will most likley die, be exiled. or both. Such is the story of a good number of african countries. And have some connection to France. Either coincidences are popping up or something far worse is brewing.
@AL-lh2ht
Жыл бұрын
France did not invest well into their colonies, and messed with them far longer. While most British colonies, and others, are doing much better then former French. This proves the inherent inferiority of French culture and that their pretending to be high culture and better was a long con scam, much like the devils lies.
@bachvandals3259
Жыл бұрын
Its the arab spring all over again
@TheOmegaXicor
Жыл бұрын
Probably Russian punishment for aiding Ukraine with arms
@Rosannasfriend
Жыл бұрын
The leader of Niger also did it to himself. The people of Niger support, the COUP there.
@goganii
Жыл бұрын
@@bachvandals3259it's not comparable at all
@kisaragi-hiu
Жыл бұрын
So "what's different" is just "they're richer than neighbors"?
@derrickthewhite1
Жыл бұрын
The Video doesn't explain it, but they're also not landlocked*, not majority muslim, and don't really share a border or culture with the other countries. The other coups have all been in the Sahel region. *yes, a couple of the sahel countries have ocean access. They still don't have great ocean access though. Gabon is built around a port.
@prion42
Жыл бұрын
It's easy to remove someone but hard to do a better job. Guess we'll see what happens.
@Copyright_Infringement
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this coup seems actually to be in the interests of the people, which is a nice change of pace
@ricardokowalski1579
Жыл бұрын
I would like to have less "people" or "volks" and more citizens
@Copyright_Infringement
Жыл бұрын
@@ricardokowalski1579 okay fine, the interests of the _citizenry_ And why are we German allovasudden
@ricardokowalski1579
Жыл бұрын
@@Copyright_Infringement because "people" in english doesn't convey the precise meaning of "rambling mass of proletariats". Like the spanish "pueblo", german "volks" or french "populace". All this in opposition to "citizen"
@TylerMarkRichardson
Жыл бұрын
@@ricardokowalski1579why not use the English word Folks
@ethanyoung.
Жыл бұрын
For now, at least. Turkey's slew of military interventions in the past seemed to be in the name of the people, but instead gave way to savvier dictators who knew this time to ensure that the military was over adequately funded. Will this be a shared similarity to what we are seeing in Gabon? We shall certainly see in the proceeding months.
@idraote
Жыл бұрын
Once again, TLDR proves how conservative it is in its views. Stability is an excellent thing, but political stability achieved because a dictator is politically savvy and merciless enough to stay in power for a long time is something that may please Western government but is far from ideal internally.
@DandyDNA
Жыл бұрын
If you think TL;DR is conservative you're mental, lol
@emmaatkins8678
Жыл бұрын
Why don't commenters like you ever back up your digs with actual facts? I don't care to listen to someone who just insults others with no proof to back it up. Just makes you seem lazy and antagonistic.@@DandyDNA
@hightierplayers2454
Жыл бұрын
It could be, but its statistically unlikely. Going from a dictator to a military dictatorship is the most likely outcome because that's quite literally the stats in the history of events like this. There's only a few that have ever managed to successfully have militaries overthrow the current government and properly transition into a prosperous state without them in total control. We Koreans are one of the only examples I'm aware of where we managed something like this, and it still took half a century at least. Nobody at the start had any idea we would end up a world leader at the end of the process, so hearing people trying to act like they can see how this will turn out positively lets me know that the vast majority of supporters of these coups have no idea what actually happens. African nations will have to show they are capable of breaking the same cycle that a lot of them, and South America have been locked in for centuries. So far, few, if any, have. You can either bet on the extremely unlikely happening, or you can bet on what has happened time and time again happening yet again. Independence days are earned through strife and bloodshed by its people. If your military is doing all of the fighting, like almost all South American/African system overthrows have, your people have not done a thing and deserve to have more of the same until they are willing to actually fight (not talking, not protesting in streets) for better for themselves. You can easily tell real independence being won because it usually involves civil war where militaries are split as some believe in the old guard and some believe in the new. If a unified military did the taking-over, its very unlikely you have a situation resulting in independence.
@ilikedota5
Жыл бұрын
You forgot about Taiwan. But what I think both Taiwan and South Korea tell us is that it only really happens if a) the dictator is intelligent enough, and supportive enough of Democracy, and b) if the people really want it, and really push for it, such that the dictator realizes its bloody civil war, or democracy. The dictator also has to be humane enough to not want to go down the civil war button though, and long term oriented enough to know its better to implement a smooth transition now.
@derrickthewhite1
Жыл бұрын
If you get to count Korea you also should count Taiwan. And Turkey has an astounding track record in that respect (though it might be over).
@mosaloquendo
Жыл бұрын
The last successful military coup in South America was in 1989 in Paraguay, and that process led to a flawed but ultimately democratic regime. Afterwards there were only failed attempts or questionable situations, like Pedro Castillo in Perú.
@f1i273
Жыл бұрын
@@ilikedota5Taiwan and Korea were also supported and backed by the US to develop how it did, huge difference that makes
@ArawnOfAnnwn
Жыл бұрын
@@f1i273 No it doesn't. Stop claiming credit for other nations' success. The US has plenty of autocratic allies, and has even helped put autocracies in place before (Gautemala, for example). Taiwan and Korea are the way they are thanks to their people and leaders, not cos of the US. The US allied with (for geopolitical reasons) and worked with both just fine for decades as autocratic states. And these are just two of many instances where Americans like to pretend they're responsible for all the good in the world.
@cianmurtagh468
Жыл бұрын
Genuinely wish Africa the best in driving out colonialism
@drscopeify
Жыл бұрын
Africa has been without colonialism since the 1960s, I think you mean without dictators. The problem of Africa are dictators who take power for 50 years.
@lucasfernandes0002
Жыл бұрын
@@drscopeify France has been a de facto colonial power in west africa since 1960, same for Belgium and Congo before the 2000's war
@bigevil1001
Жыл бұрын
@@drscopeifyDo not be fooled by the myth of decolonization.
@drscopeify
Жыл бұрын
@@bigevil1001 I agree but it's a balance of both issues. African nations have allowed dictators to take power without push back and that will need to change.
@keshi5541
Жыл бұрын
@@drscopeify colonialism is over but neocolonialism still continues to plague africa
@terrynewsome6698
Жыл бұрын
Here is hoping for a better tomorrow for 🇬🇦
@jamesbackstar8285
Жыл бұрын
Hallelujah
@sarfokwakye8628
Жыл бұрын
The people of Gabon enjoyed political stability at the expense of these same people. Political stability can only be defined as "maintenance of the status quo", rather than the majority of the people having their needs met.
@cgt3704
Жыл бұрын
I bet the next one to fall is Cameroon
@blackblack1167
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some Cameroonians online say they’re hoping for one. Give it a few months.
@cgt3704
Жыл бұрын
@@blackblack1167 i think the coup may embolden some of the anglophone cameroonians to gain independence from largely francophone-dominated Cameroon
@michaelmayhem350
Жыл бұрын
Farm hand: I'm done setting up the chicken coup Farmer: coop, there's a p in coop Farm hand: oh dear what I have done Queue attacking chickens 😂😂😂😂
@napoleonibonaparte7198
Жыл бұрын
To be clear, people coming out and celebrating does not necessarily mean they support the military, they are just glad the Bongos are toppled.
@halsneed6136
Жыл бұрын
It really seems that this coup, bqsed on the information provided in this video, will indeed be a net benefit for Gabon.
@tommwasaha-ft7db
Жыл бұрын
Gabon is not a west African country, it's in Central Africa. Sudan 🇸🇩 wasn't a former French colony.
@udayshnkr420
Жыл бұрын
Hearing 'Gabon' and 'Bongo' in quick succession while being high is something else.
@Firkinnel
Жыл бұрын
The winner is always the man with the biggest stick !
@chrisdavis6264
Жыл бұрын
As a resident of Gabon, the country literally partied for days. Peolle knows that this is not the 15th century anymore…. So far, so good here. No violence. If Ali tries to seize back power, then I will guarantee there will be violence
@stdesy
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Hanson’s MMMBop was about the 1997 Gabonese coup
@MattJonesGR9
Жыл бұрын
I'm rolling lol
@hoze1235
Жыл бұрын
Mmmbop to ooombe
@Keln02
Жыл бұрын
Remember the African Coup drinking game?
@hagnat
Жыл бұрын
i find it kind of hilarious that you seem to have an easier time saying Gabonese names than you do Portuguese ones
@jmjedi923
Жыл бұрын
Tbf most of the names in this video are "Bongo"
@victorugo3875
Жыл бұрын
@@jmjedi923😂
@DUCKDUDE4100
Жыл бұрын
Let's all just hope that the gabonese military end up re-establishing democracy. I know it's a long shot, but we can hope.
@JimmyM1975
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it will for a long time. It’s possible for some coups after a bunch of years will turn into democracies but I doubt it will happen any time soon
@tomhenry897
Жыл бұрын
Be a success if start letting the people enjoy the fruits of the country
@donotreplydumbpeople3866
Жыл бұрын
They can't restore something that has never been there, you asking then to CREATE DEMOCRACY, this video does not explain the main reason why hes been overthrone
@UndiagnosedGarbage
Жыл бұрын
Saying "for the sake of political stability" in Gabon is the equivalent of saying ending slavery would be bad for the economy on a slave reliant state.
@henrymach
Жыл бұрын
Political stability against ousting a known corrupt? I'll always choose the latter
@ricardokowalski1579
Жыл бұрын
7:35 tyranny is not "political stability"
@theconqueringram5295
Жыл бұрын
Gabon's coup is probably the best out of all the other ones due to how long the last guy was in power.
@finikama
Жыл бұрын
1:15 Gabon is not a West African Country. It is a central African Country.
@andreasioannides4545
Жыл бұрын
are we going to ignore the fact that Gabon can finally become truly democratic after a long era of dictators?
@drscopeify
Жыл бұрын
Only if the military is willing to give up power. Once they have power and the money from it they might not be so willing to give it up, we will have to wait and see but it can be a problem.
@BigmanDogs
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Bongo is at fault
@tcjusttc5418
Жыл бұрын
the common thread is France. A lot of Africans are tired of the "rule by puppets" tactics.
@Ruicarrico
Жыл бұрын
And this is the solution? Any of the other coups in the region result in a return to a regular remocratic regime? 🤔
@tcjusttc5418
Жыл бұрын
@@Ruicarricocoups are probably not going to solve the issue. But if people condemn the coup without highlighting the reasons why people are revolting, the cycle will repeat itself. France helped the Bongo family keep power for 56 years because of oil exploration for Elf. And the people are still in poverty
@Ruicarrico
Жыл бұрын
@@tcjusttc5418 I'm not a expert and I have limited knowledge of Gabonese politics, but do you believe the military are going to devolve the power to the electors or they will sell to other buyer?
@tcjusttc5418
Жыл бұрын
@@Ruicarrico I sincerely don't know how it will play out. Military regimes have historically been bad at governance and equity. The ideal situation will be for another set of free and fair elections to be conducted.
@Ruicarrico
Жыл бұрын
@@tcjusttc5418 I agree 👍🏼, but if you take the other countries in the region that will not happen
@danielmwendwa791
Жыл бұрын
TLDR Africa is needed now, surely.
@krimozaki9494
Жыл бұрын
So coups and dictatorships are not bad in themselves. The important thing is that they are in the interest of the West and not in the interest of its enemies, right?
@siempresonrie5924
Жыл бұрын
Well it’s also kinda weird that the leader of Gabon is Muslim in a country with less than 10% of the population identifying themselves with Islam. I wish the best for the Gabonese people and hopefully the coup can succeed
@michaeladu6120
Жыл бұрын
This is the only coup that I'm happy for and fully support.
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
Hypocrit
@ldubt4494
Жыл бұрын
@@alexlehrersh9951no, because it always depends on what those stand for.
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
@@ldubt4494 nope hypocrit
@keshi5541
Жыл бұрын
@@alexlehrersh9951 This is a good coup. Better to have democracy rather than authoritarian rule.
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
Hypocrit@@keshi5541
@UnnamedBridgeburner
Жыл бұрын
This one is scary for the French. With oil out of the Russian space getting shaky they have been relying on African supplies more and more. Cobbling together a number of marginal suppliers to replace the primary one. This could go very bad for all involved.
@eddifabricio3750
Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel that for most Western companies to get such fantastic "commercial deals" of oil, minerals, etc., they intervened militarily and then kept those political leaders which guarantee such deals? People under this neocolonial system do not benefit all that much, it's just the companies and the politicians. But who is to say that the new military leaders won't do the same but to benefit Russia or China instead? We have to wait and see what kind of system the BRICS will set up. It can hardly be worse than the current neocolonial system 😒
@PeterPeter-pr2hi
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really apply to all Western countries, it is mainly about France. Most colonialist powers, as bad as their rule was, mainly left the African countries. The British, the Italians, the Portuguese, etc., don’t have much to do with their former colonies anymore, and whenever these countries bring up colonialism as a reason for their failures, it is less believable. It is France that’s entirely different. They still have the CFA Franc in many countries, benefitting them, they have unfair business deals with African nations, and host many military bases across their former colonies (I know that other colonial powers have military bases too, but in France’s case, it is especially noticeable how much they want to say). What happened to the French recently in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger, and might or might not happen in Gabon, was something that never happened in any African country after decolonisation. They kicked out troops, cut diplomatic ties, and might even move away from stuff like language and business deals. Other African countries didn’t do this with their former colonial overlords. It is also worth pointing out that the West and France have their disagreements in this. While on the surface, it might look like they agree on all this, but when you look deeper, you realise that there are massive differences. The USA STILL doesn’t refer to the events in Niger as a coup, and will most likely stay there as the French are being kicked out. They also favour diplomatic means over military ones, while France is being aggressive and desperately wants an ECOWAS intervention. If the West plays their cards well, they can still keep their ties to places like Niger. But France has to go.
@PeterPeter-pr2hi
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the lesson of these coups will be that France cannot be a truly great power all by itself anymore. Most of Europe collaborates together as well as with the USA (whether or not the latter is a good thing is up to debate, I myself as a European have my issues with it). France however, is still stubborn, choosing its own separate way, which wouldn’t be a problem as I feel like we are too dependent on the USA nowadays, but having less dependence is something that can only be done via the EU. Hopefully France will learn this and focus on the EU, which it is a major actor in, instead of oppressing African countries despite their “decolonisation”. Unipolarity might not be a good thing as it allows the USA to wreak havoc everywhere in the name of freedom and democracy, but if multipolarity means aggressively keeping your spheres of influence everywhere like France does, it is just as bad.
@TheSeparhim
Жыл бұрын
China is constantly debt trapping countries, make them build all infrastructure through Chinese companies so local people do not get employeed and when they cannot pay back the loans, the contract obligated them to give China unrestricted access and control to the infrastructure that was build. This is both what western countries did China over a year ago and not any better than what western countries tend to do to Africa.
@eldios831
Жыл бұрын
You are right....I also have a feeling that the president is also in on the coup....failing health plus his head of presidential guard orchastrated the coup....a right man and confidant....now people can have false hope of overthrowing a family dynasty...but behind the scene still puppeteering ...time will tell
@andreasottohansen7338
Жыл бұрын
@@PeterPeter-pr2hi England does have the same problem. If they didn't, they wouldn't have gone through with Brexit.
@r-t9266
Жыл бұрын
That map of the countries who have recently suffered a coup is absolutely insane to look at. An entire region of the world is distabilised.
@MAGAeminem
Жыл бұрын
🎼I think I'm turning Gabonese 🎵
@darylbas8216
Жыл бұрын
Man, look how happy those people look, because they think something has actually changed, when we all know the most likely outcome is that the only thing that’s changed is whose boot is on their neck now.
@drscopeify
Жыл бұрын
100% they are celebrating one dictator taking over for another.
@urosradovanovic7720
Жыл бұрын
I think that bongo was put under house arrest
@chadbrad8100
Жыл бұрын
Wow Africa is quite a fun place to live
@gehenna14
Жыл бұрын
most stable nation in africa
@bengadot
Жыл бұрын
After Botswana
@wtr3059
Жыл бұрын
@@bengadotBotswana is genuinely doing quite well for itself afaik
@bababababababa6124
Жыл бұрын
I know this comment was ironic but genuinely before this coup Gabon was one of the better nations here in Africa. I think they probably still will be even after this coup, Gabonese always seem to have their heads screwed on compared to neighbouring countries
@NaSaSh1087
Жыл бұрын
@@wtr3059along with south africa. Majority of goods in Botswana are from South Africa.
@amh9494
Жыл бұрын
The bongos of Gabon 😂😂😂😂
@sb782
Жыл бұрын
France seems like the main reason for all this
@Welgeldiguniekalias
Жыл бұрын
60+ years of independence and still you won't hold them accountable for their own failings. 😔
@sb782
Жыл бұрын
@@Welgeldiguniekaliasumm seems like helping a man become a dictator has a effect on the nation and how many years did France own the place?
@skp8748
Жыл бұрын
@@Welgeldiguniekaliasindependence where 😂😂😂
@only_fair23
Жыл бұрын
@@WelgeldiguniekaliasIn this case, it actually applies. They literally supported the dictators rise
@no-nx3ip
Жыл бұрын
@@Welgeldiguniekalias100+ years of brutal colonisation can’t be erased by a few decades of dictators loyal to france 😂 you are deluded
@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745
Жыл бұрын
Say Bongo every time the video says Bongo, it's super fun
@sodog44
Жыл бұрын
All these coups might have the unintended consequences of forcing the other nations in the region to start taking better care of their people to keep them placated, and probably purging their militaries of any people with bigger ambitions other than serving their countries.
@SubsWithNoVideos-ps2pc
Жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time a coup happened in Africa, I’d probably be richer than Elon musk 😂
@guydreamr
Жыл бұрын
Good overview of Gabon's recent history, but I'm still not exactly sure as to why this coup is in fact, different.
@victorugo3875
Жыл бұрын
My takeaway is because Gabon is relatively wealthier and has had some political stability as opposed to other French African colonies that have experienced coups.
@guydreamr
Жыл бұрын
@@victorugo3875 Good point.
@filipepedro8272
Жыл бұрын
Cos it's not a democracy. Its more a corrupted monarchy and only benefits the elite
@collinward1241
Жыл бұрын
Coup overthrew a politically stable dictatorship unlike the ones in West Africa were unstable democracies. Also no signs or allegations of Russian involvement in Gabon.
@raddish4256
Жыл бұрын
Not enough reporting on France's connection. Yes they are a petro state. They have more miles of oil pipelines than paved roads in Gabon. Small detail the new leader is Bongo's cousin.
@peacejohn4344
Жыл бұрын
Bongo HAS BEEN SEEN he put up a vid talking about the people should rally behind him please look more into this.
@mocua2910
Жыл бұрын
Gabon is located at the central west of the continent not west
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
No diference
@BruceM8
Жыл бұрын
I can't understand the level of negativity I am seeing in this video and in other news sources about this coup. While it is true, we don't yet know the intentions and possibilities of those who made this coup in Gabon, they did in fact remove a leader who had no right to rule. Unlike several other recent coups in the region, this was not an anti-democratic coup, but rather one (apparently) in support of democracy. If a suppressed people cannot overthrow a long-entrenched autocratic government by coup, then what form of uprising will win international support?
@puraLusa
Жыл бұрын
So far I haven't seen anything coming from international actors.
@alexpotts6520
Жыл бұрын
This is fair enough, but... are the Gabonese military planning to hold free and fair elections? 🤔 Colour me sceptical...
@backlogbuddies
Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of reasons. It could inspire others to over throw their governments, even just ones. I do agree it seems like Bongo shouldn't have won, especially since everyone seems to be cheering on the coup unlike in Niger.
@danielc9967
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the West especially France is pissed of because this dictator was a French puppet, dictatorship is fine as long as you were placed there by the French masters
@DOSFS
Жыл бұрын
Even with good intention, a Coup can set up a REALLY bad precedent that will pleque and even undermined democracy the country for a long long time (as Thai myself who still have to deal with coup and military meddling in politic). Who can't say future general wouldn't coup again but under far less justifiable reason? Maybe I am wrong and thing turns out ok for them and I hope so. But still...
@sjsm8578
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing worrying here. Just an old dictator getting the boot. Gabon will be fine
@Ryies12
Жыл бұрын
Reading the wiki page for this I was just thinking "Guy sounds like he deserved it".
@AbsolAhm
Жыл бұрын
Man, what is with all these coups in Africa? I mean why? Its not like coups bring instant prosperity and progress.
@orboakin8074
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people (some of them Africans and others not) cheering and calling for more of these coups, despite the long history of coups and military dictatorships ruining Africa. Genuinely sad. Those of us in more stable African countries should be genuinely grateful and do all we can to preserve our stability.
@akpowarri3504
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for you somethings I'm identifying that seem innate in the peoples of many African nations is the deadly combination of ignorance, arrogance and envy. They are going to prey, whish and hope for your country to experience a coup also.
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
Жыл бұрын
Military juntas are only unstable because the moral police keeps on being hostile to them.
@traykunable
Жыл бұрын
If you live in one of the very few stable wealthy, equitable democracies in Africa (Namibia, Botswana and Mauritius) then you have nothing to fear. If you live in the rest of corrupt kleptocractic Africa then why are you worried about the military taking over?
@gekolizzard
Жыл бұрын
“Stable” and Africa in one sentence? 😂😂
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
Жыл бұрын
Why just fear? I would hope 🤞 the African Union finally gets rid of the governmental system intolerance and can finally fully commit to African unity. Plus, having multiple governmental systems is great for the economy 💰, as each is better at different things. Plus it would humiliate the West for being worse at peace. And the West is treated too much as a sacred cow. @@traykunable
@muriwangul.chinyerere5381
Жыл бұрын
France the source of all these problems.....
@ikinloch4618
Жыл бұрын
Nothing better to watch when you can’t sleep at 5am
@bernardschmitt6389
Жыл бұрын
"former French colonies" Shows Sudan on the map which was not a French colony.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
Жыл бұрын
Replacing a strongman with another strongman. There's no good side or bad side. Remember that previous coup attempts were put down with French assistance
@toyotaprius79
Жыл бұрын
Aren't the French not also the strongmen?
@bababababababa6124
Жыл бұрын
Replacing the French with ANYTHING is a better alternative. Don’t act like they were there for Africans best interests
@petrpinc7695
Жыл бұрын
@@bababababababa6124 that Anything can be China
@user-op8fg3ny3j
Жыл бұрын
@@bababababababa6124 yeah, that was my point of adding it. I'm saying how they were in bed with the regimes
@user-op8fg3ny3j
Жыл бұрын
@@toyotaprius79 yes
@smartindian8500
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully democracy is established in Gabon. Gabon has lots of oil reserves and can be a rich country. They are less unequal than Equatorial Guinea (which should be the richest in Africa but is poor due to Teodoro Obiang (who hopefully loses power soon)) but still quite unequal.
@gekolizzard
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Bongo was a passenger on Preghozins plane?
@Fire-ci4se
Жыл бұрын
Always happens whenever US tightens interest rate . All fragile countries are first to face instability
@AL-lh2ht
Жыл бұрын
The stupidity here is so high. The most interesting part is the inherent racism to believe this is somehow about the US
@yohighness
Жыл бұрын
US? 🙉
@farright118
Жыл бұрын
GDP per capita doesnt mean anything if there massive income disparity. E.g. A nation of a million slaves could have a high GDP per capita but of course slaves dont earn anything and thus it means nothing
@tr8086
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy for them!!!
@solschwarz5169
Жыл бұрын
Africa, it seems, is descending into complete chaos and anarchy
@bafanamahlatse1923
Жыл бұрын
These are revolutions .all the ousted leaders were puppets installed by westerners to exploit resources
@Rosannasfriend
Жыл бұрын
Africa is rising for the greater good. I’m glad I found this channel so that I can wake you people out. This is a propaganda channel. Stop watching it.
@bloodfiredrake7259
Жыл бұрын
This is just west Africa.
@yohighness
Жыл бұрын
No, it's just a few countries out of 54.
@captain-chair
Жыл бұрын
Do you work for the French oil or mining industry?
@vredacted3125
Жыл бұрын
FREEDOM TO AFRICA! NO TO FRENCH IMPERIALISM!
@captain-chair
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Institute! I am not sure why you guys are all of the sudden against subverting and replacing leaders now, but it's a welcome change.
@vredacted3125
Жыл бұрын
@@captain-chair haha, we’re under new managment) The New Director is the General of the Minutemen, our old HQ is in ruins, but we needed a wake-up call, now we help the people above, as we are among them and are based above too.
@captain-chair
Жыл бұрын
@@vredacted3125 Coincidentally I am currently in the middle of a Fallout 4 survival run which I included a mod to allow me to fast travel anywhere from the institute. And all of the sudden I realised how much the Institute now synergises with the Minutemen play style in this particular case. 😭 I am a massive Minutemen simp.
@dulio12385
Жыл бұрын
Bongo's likely going to be used for a Gabonese rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody.
@CarlMarxPunk
Жыл бұрын
Looking at Rwanda while sweating profusely.
@vagabanda11
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem like instability. More like a needed correction. Assuming this is being lead by the people and not foreign players.
@lif6737
Жыл бұрын
LET’S GO! COUPS FOR ALL
@declangallagher1448
Жыл бұрын
Bongo, time to go go
@DOSFS
Жыл бұрын
So... another normal day in Africa?
@finiavanamandresy5460
Жыл бұрын
*French speaking Africa
@khalilsenior5378
Жыл бұрын
54 sovereign countries on the African continent. Although it is not a good look
@abderahmandj3845_muslim
Жыл бұрын
Western colonized africa
@IndiaTides
Жыл бұрын
When Russians attacked Ukraine, we similarly reacted. Another day in Europe. The continent was the most responsible for genocides and wars in the world.
@yohighness
Жыл бұрын
Of course. It was also just another normal day in USA when the MAGA lunatics stormed the Capitol.
@Wurfenkopf
Жыл бұрын
Gosh it disturbs me to see you Gabon Looking so down in the dumps!
@JoaoPedroPezarini
Жыл бұрын
Sempre vejo seus vídeos antes de ir pra faculdade, saudações do Brasil! Além disso, europeus poderiam parar de invadir ou financiar golpes na África 😢 franceses e russos
@fabionelmiguel
Жыл бұрын
O lider antigo é corrupto, e ditador.😅
@hick2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@fabionelmiguel \dinástico
@JoaoPedroPezarini
Жыл бұрын
@@fabionelmiguel fato, mas os países poderiam só deixar a África sozinha, decidirem que não vão mais sair invadindo e financiando golpes. Desde a antiguidade clássica a africa é invadida por potências estrangeiras
@td9250
Жыл бұрын
Polish and Romanian peasants looking at your comment: 😑
@gtPacheko
Жыл бұрын
@@td9250why? Lol
@seadkolasinac7220
Жыл бұрын
Video spent about 10 seconds answering the question in the title...
@illironiks
Жыл бұрын
“Will Gabon’s coup destabilize CENTRAL Africa” there! fixed the title for you!
@bababababababa6124
Жыл бұрын
Gabon isn’t even in West Africa. If anything it has more of a chance of destabilising central Africa. Now Equatorial Guineans or Cameroonians might get the same ideas against their governments
@AbdulGoodLooks
Жыл бұрын
*CENTRAL Africa. Geography is not hard.
@yarielrobles9003
Жыл бұрын
4:03 to be fair, a 40% poverty rate is still better than Puerto Rico, even though I assume they have a much stricter definition of poverty
@fongangamassana6034
Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I don’t think political stability is a substitute to good governance and economic policy . Saying “ he was a bad leader BUT Gabon had political stability ” sounds like you’re trying to excuse his actions. Israel isn’t the most politically stable country in the world , but it’s prosperous FOR ITS PEOPLE.
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
Can i laugh or should i call the medics for you
@fongangamassana6034
Жыл бұрын
@@alexlehrersh9951 how about using your brain to understand the point instead 😉
@alexlehrersh9951
Жыл бұрын
@@fongangamassana6034 Ok i piont out that Israel is not prosperous for its people. And if you deny that you losse all credibility
@TriangleChloros
Жыл бұрын
@@alexlehrersh9951 That *really* depends who you consider 'its people'.
@dant.3505
Жыл бұрын
They traded a tyrant that's 1000km away for 1000 tyrants 1km away 😮
@daviddiallo110
Жыл бұрын
People see the state of the entire continent stability wise and still argue that colonialism cant be felt anymore
@ronan5228
Жыл бұрын
It's not like they were perfectly peaceful and stable places before colonialism either. Most of the world has been unstable for most of history, this relative peace we enjoy in the western world is incredibly rare and lucky. At a point you have to allow these countries to have their own agency, pretending as though they are unable to make their own decisions for decades is a rather colonialist mindset. It also ignores the many other countries in the world with colonial pasts that have actually succeeded in spite of their unfortunate history
@Reticulated_Spline
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't help when they turn to Russian mercenaries, who are mostly there to mine and ship out resources, while providing even less security for the average population.
@bababababababa6124
Жыл бұрын
@@ronan5228you sound like a colonialism sympathiser. To translate your comment, you’re saying that “Africa was bad before so it’s fine what we did to them!”
@ronan5228
Жыл бұрын
@@bababababababa6124 Do they teach basic reading comprehension where you're from? I'm responding to a comment blaming instability on colonialism, part of my argument as to why I don't think that's a good reason is pointing out that instability exists without colonialism and that other countries have massively succeeded in spite of a colonial past.
@ibrahimbello5546
Жыл бұрын
@@ronan5228 which countries have prospered inspite of climate change
@millevenon5853
Жыл бұрын
Gabon is stable because its ethnically homogenous and its dominant ethnicity comprises our 80% of the population
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