The Point is. Glenn is talking about recording hi gain metal guitars. He is not talking about live blues solos on a semi hollow guitar.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
That's a big problem.
@drdubios
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 Why ? His channel is for guys that wants to produce metal music. If i am interested in building a offroad car i can not watch a Nascar channel and blame them to talk wrong about how to build cars.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@drdubios Oh, he seemed to be talking in general with a lot of his assumptions, tonewood, pickups, speakers etc... I don't think he is just attempting to reach a metal audience with his "science", but I could be wrong there.
@Brutalmetal93
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143as much as I dislike Glenn, you clearly do not actually watch his attention, because he blatantly proclaims in borderline every single video, that he is specifically referring to high gain metal sounds in a studio setting being recorded.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@Brutalmetal93 The videos I watched he never mentioned, or barely mentioned the high gain factor.
@thestradiosmiles
3 ай бұрын
It's almost impressive how much you managed to miss the actual message of the videos.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Lmao. Wrong. But nice cope.
@thestradiosmiles
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 Great rebuttal. You're not even pretending you have a counter argument you're just responding like a 5 year old.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@thestradiosmiles a counter argument to "you missed the message"??? You should start by explaining which message I missed. Talk about 5 year old type thinking. Wow.
@thestradiosmiles
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 Look at all the comments your video dude. You completely missed the point, and you are still trying to defend yourself. Pathetic.
@thestradiosmiles
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 How many times do people have to repeat the same thing over and over typically before it gets through to you?
@Durkhead
3 ай бұрын
Hes pretty much right, speaker makes more difference than the pickup hes allso talking bout high gain tones
@jsquire1331
3 ай бұрын
1:55 already defeated your own point. Glenn's channel is to demonstrate and teach recording. Not gigging, not musicianship, recording. He is very open and honest about this and you're moving the goal posts specifically to call him wrong (oh and with no evidence to boot!). Go out, do the science, prove him wrong, or shove it.
@jsquire1331
3 ай бұрын
Glenn has also addressed your placebo pill effect idea as well, AND FUCKING AGREES THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
@gregh.2138
3 ай бұрын
Glenn already did the science tho . . . good luck.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
NP. Thanks.
@jsquire1331
3 ай бұрын
@@gregh.2138 that's just the thing, good science should be peer reviewed, and this laughing stock obviously thinks he's Glenn's peer.
@charlesmerfeld2988
3 ай бұрын
Some with musicianship but primarily not.
@ShaneSaiyan
3 ай бұрын
Well that's 15 minutes I'm not getting back. Enjoy your ad revenue I guess.
@dakotaroosa1525
3 ай бұрын
Funny to me that everybody on here says he’s not a guitar player but he can play better than at least half the people commenting. But hey
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Lmao, my 13 year niece can play better than Glenn.
@TheDogPa
3 ай бұрын
Y'all can check me out any time you want...though, unlike all the egotists that love Glenn, I claim nothing.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@TheDogPa Cheers.
@dakotaroosa1525
3 ай бұрын
Im not an egoist , douche. I just said he can play a guitar. Maybe not to your amazing standards, but he can play better than your average person. Good luck with your little channel man.
@PhilJakes
3 ай бұрын
at least he doesnt wear sunglasses indoors....
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
He's Canadian.
@gcarnuba4086
3 ай бұрын
14:57 of a clown proving exactly the point Glenn is making... how embarrassing. LOL
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
LOL wrong
@Durkhead
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143pretty much the basis of your arguement is buying somthing shiny makes you a better player thats how ppl get stuck in G.A.S. they think that they need this shiny new thing to make them a better player. When in reality they just need to practice more and practice better
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@Durkhead Eh, not exactly, but I will never shun the practice route.
@jsquire1331
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 honestly, could've fooled me. You sound like you need another decade practicing in the jam shed...
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@jsquire1331 Tell me how many years of practice it would take glenn to play this passage I did here? kzitem.info/news/bejne/zXqvtJVrjZtolawsi=bCfkZWX9hLklHPwD&t=306
@lazur1
3 ай бұрын
I play guitar, at home, 100% of the time. No one else's allowed to control my guitar's sound. If I ever go back to studio playing, I'll be very difficult to deal with.
@matthewfreeman33
3 ай бұрын
These 2 guys should just make out and swap pickups after
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
LMAO.
@papablue3015
3 ай бұрын
Glen is looking for a specific sound! I like the fact that I can get different sounds from different guitars for good or bad in a mix, may be the cherry on top?!🤘
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Level headed comment. Thanks.
@TheAntSpiralPodcast
3 ай бұрын
Wow, I really do not know how you managed to miss pretty much the entire point of Glenn's channel LOL
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
I addressed a specific video and it's context. I guess you missed it.
@jaydenspencemusic
3 ай бұрын
Okay, lets settle this. Not once, not once, has Glenn said that pickups do not make ANY difference. BUT, he has said that in the context of a mix it doesn’t affect tone as much. I will admit he can be very abrasive about this, and if you truly feel like there’s a difference, more power to you. But the sound “in the room” isn’t the one that ends up on the recording, is it? Had to edit this to add some stuff: He’s not talking about people who never record, he’s talking about people who put different pickups in to “chase tones” for recording. He’s trying to save the money of the aspiring recording musician.
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
Hes trying to save people money? By telling them what, that three or four hundred dollars worth of speakers is cheaper than a hundred and twenty for some decent pickups? That makes no sense. I don't disagree that great speakers really improve your tone, but even the most expensive speakers on earth wont remove the Mudd from a set of bad pickups! Some pickups are just plain crap. That doesn't mean you need to spend a thousand dollars on some Gibson pickups, of course thats stupid on its face. But a hundred and twenty bucks for a decent set of Dimarzios or Seymours is a very reasonable price for the differences they'll make in the sound of your guitar.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@jaydenspencemusic Never ever met one guitar player personally that "chased" STUDIO tones. 99.9999999% of all guitar players chase a tone they play with live or in their room.
@drdubios
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 Glenn is a producer not a guitar player
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
@@drdubios But his audience is not all producers. Its more likely that they're mostly players. And glen is a METAL producer. He has stated plainly that he doesn't record or care about cleans and edge tones. Yet hes happy to pull customers buisness from companies who are trying to make a products for the rest of us millions of players who do care about these kinds of tones! METAL may be for Glen and his minions, but PICKUPS and GOOD QUALITY WOODS, are for all of us. We would like these companies to stay in buisness, rather than being chased out of the market by a few EXTREMELY VOCAL metal heads.
@jaydenspencemusic
3 ай бұрын
@@stevenpipes1555 ahhhhhh, now, has glenn ever said “there’s no such thing as bad pickups?” Gonna be honest, i think he’s said the opposite and said “obviously if you have bad pickups change them” Just i know some people who would go from good pickups to good pickups to good pickups, to chase a studio tone. And yes, unlike “lives in his own little box” voxyu, who insists that no guitar player EVER chases a studio tone, welllll a lot of guitar players do. Simple
@voyager7
3 ай бұрын
The point you make from 1:45 to 2:04, makes this entire video a bit silly. Glenn has stated repeatedly his perspective is FOR RECORDING. He doesn't need us to defend him of course, but I also think your perspective on guitar sound vis a vis playing over recording, still proves much of what he's said. Woods, strings, particular pickups all have a part to play in the signal chain, but it is the speaker and effects (ie amplification and effects) that make the sound primarily what it is. The vast majority of people listening to an A-B behind a curtain with no visual queues, will NOT be able to distinguish a Gibson from a PRS or an Epiphone for that matter, when you can't know what's comprising the signal chain from player to speaker. I don't think he's ever said that the frequency response of a 490 is identical or even indistinguishable from a PAF for instance, just that the hype and marketing of how profound these differences will be to one's "sound" is WAY overblown.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
I did qualify 90% of the time. I would also say that all the pieces play an important part in the chain, probably more than Glenn accounts for. Do agree that lots of pickup hype is marketing.
@TheManWithNoName686
3 ай бұрын
sound in the room doesn't matter. all that matters is how a guitar sounds on recorded media for others to hear. live sound at a show is a different matter, and that also involves similar tenets of studio production in terms of mixing.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Sound in a room doesn't matter to whom?
@TeleCaster66
3 ай бұрын
Some of the best guitar tones ever recorded are the result of the room. Clapton on the bluesbreakers record and anything by Brian May is the room being recorded, not a mic write up on a speaker. You are literally hearing the room in these recordings as much as anything else.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@TeleCaster66 Did not know that. Thanks.
@TeleCaster66
3 ай бұрын
I'm going to backpedal a little bit on my last statement, I don't know that Brian May didn't use mic close to the speaker normally, I know on some things he did record his amp very loudly in the room and recorded the room as I heard him say so in an interview. However Eric Clapton sound on John Mayall & the bluesbreakers definitely was the room and not close mic-ed and is one of the best recorded guitar tones in history in my opinion.
@michaelmaas6460
3 ай бұрын
Glenn's show is about RECORDING METAL, especially guitar, in the RECORDING STUDIO . So of course much of it doesn't apply to playing in other situations.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
He's blasting Nuno. That has zero to do with Metal.
@TeleCaster66
3 ай бұрын
I almost banged Nuno's aunt, but that's a story for a different day.
@jefft7085
3 ай бұрын
So Glenn provides objective evidence of his claims. Your retort is to use subjective opinions. The placebo effect argument does nothing to refute his claims. His claims are that with most pickup changes, the perceived benefit is a placebo effect.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
I will give some better audio examples next time.
@markdavies2115
3 ай бұрын
When Mr 663 subs rips into a 500k youtuber. Glens vids are about studio recording tone and saving money...not playing in your bedroom. Studio is all he does, so that's what his vids are about. But I'm sure I can become a billionaire if I invent those Placebo Pickups..
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
How many hours do guitar players spend in the studio. Ask mr. 500k and he will give the same answer as mr. 663. Duh.
@jefft7085
3 ай бұрын
Glenn's claims have always been that within a small margin, a PAF will sound like every other PAF. Same for single-coils, humbuckers, P90s, etc. And that within a small margin guitar materials sound the same. He has then claimed and shown that speakers vary wildly in the sound the produce. He is planning on doing a shootout with strings to see the effect they have. He has never told anyone how to spend your. Rather he tries to arm us with more information to help us decide what to spend money on. One commenter on his channel noted something profound. We never see anyone who changed pickups and said that they sounded worse.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Yes they have. Read The Gear Page forums there are many examples of guys putting back in original pickups because the replacements sounded worse.
@rossd001
3 ай бұрын
Sorry this is bullshit. Glenn has made an observation and has backed it up with the sound files played by multiple people on different instruments, amps, rooms, mics, speakers, styles to prove a point. He backs it all up with the audio so you can judge for yourself side by side or blind testing like a science experiment. His whole point is about taking the "OPINION" out of the process. What you are trying to do is put the opinion back into the process. Why don't you back up what you are saying in the same way with audio to challenge what Glenn is demonstrating?. Its the opinions that has made the guitar marketplace the way it is and those are the walls that he is trying to tear down.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
I will go more in depth next time and add some better audio.
@TheDogPa
3 ай бұрын
He's still the biggest jerk on YT
@viktorsincic8039
3 ай бұрын
Man, saying this with the most respect I can muster up, I think you need to stop hate-watching and start to listen what people are trying to tell you. You are ignoring all the lifeboats trying to save you. Good luck.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Save me from what? Having a great tone???
@A_Cute_Backpack
3 ай бұрын
His whole point revolves around recording in an objective scope. To make an argument when you're not recording is apples to oranges Furthermore... your counter points at 2:49 sounds like you are saying the room shapes the sound more than the mic... I'm sure that's not your point, but sounds that way But also, think about how often people listen to guitar not recorded in general. I would say it's a safe assumption that people listen to more recorded guitar than when someone is practicing/playing in person. The point of an unmiced amp in a room is valid, but it's specific to a listening environment. So that makes the whole arguement kind of moot Also, he doesn't deny the difference between PAF's, single coils, and vs other types of hums (reference to your pickups discussed). He just claims that it's subtle in the context of parts that make the whole Lastly, lord help whatever engineer needs to deal with someone who would blame them if you refuse to lean on the experience of the person you are paying lol (14:45)
@TeleCaster66
3 ай бұрын
Look at the comments saying your wrong and Glenn is right, like 10,000,000 Madonna fans can't be wrong, can they? Well, Madonna sucks and has always sucked and I've watched some of Glenn's videos and I feel like he misses a lot of things about guitar sound. I'm not into that high gain metal stuff and am more into subtle dynamics even when using a distorted tone. I'm with you, old school guitar playing and getting all the parts of the signal chain to work together to produce a good, musical, usable sound. You are a breath of fresh air on utube in my opinion.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words.
@allstopblue5717
3 ай бұрын
It’s insane how Glenn has all these blind followers believing pickups make no difference and it’s only the speaker. Absolutely hilarious
@LB-qf3ef
3 ай бұрын
Holy click bait, Batman! 😂
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
Did it work???
@LB-qf3ef
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 I did spend one or two minutes there before I had to drift away.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@LB-qf3ef The youtube algorithm only needs 45 seconds to count a video as watched. Thanks.
@LB-qf3ef
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 You are welcome. My attention deficit keeps me moving.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@LB-qf3ef I hear you. Good world for it.
@macinfloydvolk
3 ай бұрын
he gets on my FRICKnnerves lol
@jimb2577
3 ай бұрын
I completely understand your point about gear being inspiring but you're totally ignorant for saying you don't care how you sound in a studio and it's the engineer's job to make you sound good. Thanks for the laugh.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
I don't care because it's the engineers job to make me sound good. Here is the last time I was in the studio. I think the engineer did a great job. All I did was show up. kzitem.info/news/bejne/lqdu34CDmIOQp6Asi=uWdMHSLdQDjJaqtp
@notronsivart
3 ай бұрын
13:27 when you sound good, you play good plain and simple.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
100%
@jeremytee2919
3 ай бұрын
if he just said the emphasis on pickups is often overblown, I could agree, But he says they don’t matter. And that’s stupid.
@user-qd9mm5mt4i
3 ай бұрын
His audience is mainly teenage kids. Glen has never or rarely recorded bands anyone's heard of. He's mainly a KZitem guy.
@user-qd9mm5mt4i
3 ай бұрын
He is right that most at-home only players are not ready to do proper recording.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@user-qd9mm5mt4i agreed, but it's his job to get them a good sound when they are there in his studio.
@user-qd9mm5mt4i
3 ай бұрын
@voyxu143 Glenn never actually records anyone, nobody you've heard of ever. He is a *KZitem gear demo* reviewer, NOT a record producer. KZitemrs are rarely known outside KZitem.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@user-qd9mm5mt4i True: I have not heard a recording he has done.
@suspiciouswatermelon7639
3 ай бұрын
If you're not recording your jam sessions, you are wasting your time. All that effort just evaporates into the air and disappears. You have to get your ideas down "on tape" (I use a CD-R deck hooked to the tape aux on my board). A preponderance of my song ideas come from old recordings I made while jamming, sometimes months or years ago.
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
The problem with Glenn is that he, and all of his minions it would seem, only ever push power chords through copious amounts of signal processing. If there is no TONE or NUANCE in what your playing then tone and nuance won't matter! But he has thousands of people believing that good pickups are a lie! That TONEWOOD is a lie! People calling Paul Reed Smith a charlatan and a snake oil salesmen. PAUL IS AN ARTIST OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER ! ! ! I know a guy in a metal band that was unhappy with the muddy tone he was getting from his inexpensive rig. As a fan of Glens, and at Glens direct advice, he spent 300 dollars on new speakers for his amp. His amp with the old speakers sounded good, his new speakers sounded awsome! BUT HERE'S THE THING, his inexpensive guitar still sounded muddy as hell, just now through a great amp. I dug some old Dimarzio Super D's out of my parts bucket and swapped them into his guitar for him. WOW! That was the difference his guitar needed. Now when he struck a full chord, under high gain, all of those bright frequencies came ripping through like a buzz saw. The mudd was finaly gone. IT WAS THE PICKUPS. Glenn tried to save him money by telling him to spend 300 bucks? I think a hundred for some decent pickups would have been cheaper. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for saying what ive been arguing until im blue in the face. MOST OF THE GUITAR EVER SOLD WILL NEVER BE ON A RECORDING! Almost every guitar in existence will only ever be heard in an "in the room" format. In the room, a well made guitar with good quality parts and meterials, sounds way better than an off the shelf budget friendly guitar. EVERY TIME!
@Durkhead
3 ай бұрын
Sounds like your friend finally changed his strings
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@Durkhead New strings can certainly brighten up things....!!!
@DarkestVoid
3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you’re missing the point as is the no name posting this video lmao. I watch a lot of guitar KZitemrs and I ain’t a loyal little fanboy to a damn one of em. This argument has nothing to do with the points Glenn is making. The fact you missed this hard but then try to call people in this comment section his minions shows how lacking you are in the IQ department lmfao.
@queenpurple8433
3 ай бұрын
Glenn is annoying
@NothingNowhere-vu5oq
3 ай бұрын
I hope that some day, it will be proven that a chunk of mahogany on a Gibson is sonically superior to a chunk of mahogany on any other guitar.
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
We can leave Gibson out of the equation. The fact of the matter is that a chunk of mahogany is tonaly superior to a chunk of plywood or plastic. But the REAL meat of the tonewood argument is this, a chunk of mahogany is tonaly DIFFERENT than a chunk of maple! A chunk of maple will have different tonal characteristics than a chunk of pine. Nobody is arguing that mahogany has a BETTER tonal quality than ash or poplar for example, the argument is that it has DIFFERENT tonal qualities. My pine body Tele has a WILDLY different sound than my ash body Tele even though they have the same bridge and pickups! Maybe its not as evident through all of the gain and compression of Glenns hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of processing equipment, but that doesn't make it untrue! Simply, through an amp in the room the differences are as plain as the nose on your face.
@Durkhead
3 ай бұрын
@@stevenpipes1555i dont think so. The only difference the material makes is sustain.
@voyxu143
3 ай бұрын
@@stevenpipes1555 I prefer ash strats, and I do believe I can hear a difference in tone which is why I play them more than my Alder body strats. They certainly react different when I play them.
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
@@Durkhead Its more than that. Its the snap of the note when struck. Its how healthily the note jumps from the guitar. Its in how the note blooms when you let it ring, or when you bend a note. Its how the signal reacts to the differences between picking with your finger or with a pick. The reaction to the lightness of your touch or how well it cleans up when you back off the volume. These things might not mean anything to a bunch of low rate Metallica larpers, but to those of us who actually know how to play more than one style, and actually appreciate the differences in playing approaches, it means everything. And implying that i was fooled by a string change is quite insulting, though i know the insult was the full purpose of the remark. When you cant make a legitimate argument you level an insult instead. I get it! Ive been building guitars for 30 years. I did it professionally at Parker guitars in the nineties, and ive done more than a hundred pickup swaps in the years since. I know FACTUALLY the differences a good set of pickups can make. Ive also changed pickups and then changed them back when the result wasn't what i was looking for. You need to think a little deeper on some of these arguments, and realize that HIGH GAIN only accounts for like a tenth of guitar players tones. The rest of us would like for good pickup companies to not be run out of buisness by an EXTREMELY VOCAL minority of un nuanced players.
@stevenpipes1555
3 ай бұрын
@@voyxu143 Absolutely! If you change the characteristics of what the strings are attached to, you change the way they vibrate, period. Dont let these low information no care guitar larpers change your position.
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