A rear sway bar is going to help a lot with body roll if you have a heavy canopy, extra weight in the back or you're towing. Yes - it will reduce rear wheel articulation. That said - Graham has been running one in the D-MAX for some time and is still able to drive the tough tracks! Any further questions put them below and the experts at Fulcrum will answer them!
@ST-wi9eq
4 жыл бұрын
Towing aside, if just doing some spirited driving around town or on highways, does it really help all that much with handling and stability?
@robertboyd321
Ай бұрын
Great addition to my Triton ute because now I don't feel like I am going fall out of the window when I go around corners. Massive improvement to the stability in cornering now, and I don't know how I managed to drive it before without this anti-roll bar. But if your MN Triton has a lift (like mine) then the bump stops are not tall enough. On my Triton with a 2" lift the shocks bottomed out way before the chassis hits the bump stops. Easy fix, I just removed the short kit bump stops & welded the standard Triton bump stops where the anti roll kit bump stops sat. That made an even bigger improvement to cornering & prolonged shock absorber life.
@mcfear1991
4 жыл бұрын
I feel I've seen this before...... but it's 4wd action so worth it regardless. Cheers Graham, Shauno and the team!
@musicmanthatlikesoldandnew7324
4 жыл бұрын
mcfear1991 go away then
@mcfear1991
4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmanthatlikesoldandnew7324 get fu*ked mate. Its All good. I was thinking of the video they did a few months ago at fulcrum
@itz_jack1133
4 жыл бұрын
yeh legit thought the same thing, seen this before
@will5444
4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmanthatlikesoldandnew7324 mate your head looks like a pepperoni pizza, get fucked.
@jakeslawnmowing7733
4 жыл бұрын
mcfear1991 iv definitely seen this before aswell?? But apparently this vid was posted today
@4x4CampingandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
If I install a sway bar I won’t be able to do wheel lifts around corners said every patrol owner
@jarrodk2832
4 жыл бұрын
Thats only when they remove the rear one with a flexi lift
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much every comment on Facebook and here. For anyone who reads this comment. Keep in mind Grahams D-max runs SuperPro 4x4 sway bars and he has taken that thing all over Australia with no issue. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@maverick2242
4 жыл бұрын
install sway bar disconnects, maybe why LC owners are smarter ha
@maverick2242
4 жыл бұрын
4x4 Camping and Adventures Theyre not doing it right which is what she said (GU misses)🤣
@4x4CampingandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Maverick224 😂😂😂
@dovi1398
4 жыл бұрын
Whats next lowering kits for your 4wd so it handles better on road 👍
@q-ster116
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr, 4wd action do a video on how to reduce your flex🤔
@mik995px
4 жыл бұрын
@@q-ster116 they did say its better for towing and heavy loads. its just for another use case of your 4wd ;)
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@mik995px I like you. You listen 😊
@cameronriccio6050
4 жыл бұрын
So you make it to the trailhead without putting your truck into a ditch
@woodsymhn705
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry graham its a 4wd for off road use not a mall crawler, no sway bars more articulation 👍
@Wroeys4x4
4 жыл бұрын
False if you have the swaybar set up correct you have more control of the vehical and still decent flex
@4WD247
4 жыл бұрын
It certainly is a 4WD - and there wouldn't be many dual cabs out there that have driven tougher tracks than Graham - with a rear sway bar installed!
@woodsymhn705
4 жыл бұрын
Also why his always out for the winch 🤣🤣🤣
@shanevonharten3100
4 жыл бұрын
It's from a sponsor, they'll fit it whether it works or not, thats how it works
@lachlanandrews350
4 жыл бұрын
Calm down bud
@kyronhamilton2055
4 жыл бұрын
More vids like this please I’m trying to do fix all of my suspension work myself and these vids help so slick thanks mate YOU ARE A BLODDY LIVING LEGEND 👍🤙✌️🙏
@eugenenoah6639
Жыл бұрын
If you read Toyota rogue manual book ,in page 270 it does reccommend to use sway control device to stabilize the hilux when towing
@mullerandre95
4 жыл бұрын
How much does it interfere with your off road performance? It limits wheel travel, now if it comes with a quick disconnect system for track driving, then it's a winner.
@wildfish2190
4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Pilusajaib
4 жыл бұрын
About to ask this, thank you!
@hotworksfab
4 жыл бұрын
You're leaves will limit travel before the sway bar
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@hotworksfab 100%
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't interfere with you off road performance at all. A sway bar should not be seen as a negative. Aftermarket companies wouldn't put so many engineering hours or manufacturing time into a product if it was to have a negative affect on performance. If you have a legal suspension setup and install a SuperPro sway bar you will have little to no loss of articulation or flex. Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@Mister510
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't install quick-disconnect end links with it. A rear sway bar limits axle articulation (flex) off road. On wheelers the first thing we do is chuck the stock rear sway bar in the scrap bin. The increase in trail performance is HUGE. Many vehicles gain 100 points(!) on an RTI ramp just by disconnecting the rear sway bar.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@Mister510
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously you're here to sell sway bars. Anything that reduces body roll reduces flex. When the axle articulates the more weight you can keep on the drooped side tire the more traction you will have and the further you will go. All sway bars take weight off the drooped side tire, that's how they work. Push up on one tire and the sway bar pushes up on the opposite side, reducing the amount of weight on the drooped side tire. Good flex isn't just about how much travel you have and how far you can hang a tire, it's about keeping as much weight as possible on that drooped tire through as much travel as possible.
@edydj1127
4 жыл бұрын
I own a 4x4 which I love for it's ability to glide over bumps, but will installing a stiffer sway bars affect that ability?
@MADagain
3 жыл бұрын
not a 4x4 but a Subaru Outback 07 needing some love with a rear sway bar swap... just wondering what you'd recommend?
@rhyssutherland8937
4 жыл бұрын
If you’ve got load assist airbags in place of the bump stops can these still be fitted? Or is there another kit that will work with the bags
@the_curry_cruiser
4 жыл бұрын
Next time on All For Adventure!
@yoboo6167
4 жыл бұрын
@ Fulcrum Suspensions ... quick question for you. I just installed a full OME suspension kit on my 2004 Toyota 4dr 4wd. I carry constant heavy loads in the vehichle so I went with the Dakar leafs with an add a leaf. Great kit! But... the very first thing I noticed was the truck now seems 'wobbly' and unstable or top heavy and wanting to lean and roll more in the rear. Sounds like a rear sway would be the solution to a safer ride. Is this correct?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we do not offer a rear sway bar kit for the pre 05 models of hilux. I would be checking if the rear shocks are controlling/rated correctly to control the heavy loads. You may need a heavier duty option.
@yoboo6167
4 жыл бұрын
@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 I'll look into it. Thank you for the reply!
@element271
4 жыл бұрын
Doing some doughies out side the Stafford shopping centre back entrance I see.
@MitchDenham
4 жыл бұрын
Classic Stafford doughies after a sneaky parmi and Northern at the Staff Tav.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the locals 👍
@Half-stache
4 жыл бұрын
@@MitchDenham That's one of the most Aussie sentences I've read in a long time. Cheers, Cobba!
@ryantilley-general.shenanigans
4 жыл бұрын
The secret to big front wheel lift revealed!
@juliuscajilog9371
2 жыл бұрын
For a pick up truck 2500 Ram 4x4, which is better to install, in the front or rear? Thanks
@dvdung68
3 жыл бұрын
Install rear anti roll bar on vehicles equipped with ESP electronic balance system. Does the electronic balance system malfunction?
@captainca1445
3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at adding a rear sway bar to my 2005 GMC SAFARI rwd , where would I get the parts?
@megarafjogos
4 жыл бұрын
I've removed the one on my samurai and couldn't be happier. Lots of extra articulation, with almost no difference in driving. But, I've tried a pajero (IFS) without one and it is undrivable.
@brendenperusco4525
4 жыл бұрын
Is it a kit specific for each vehicle? How would I go about putting one in an old leaf front and rear hilux that drives like a boat?
@macat22
Жыл бұрын
Will a rear sway bar on my triton affect handling when I go 4 wheel driving
@panayortistathis8871
4 жыл бұрын
What if you have airbags is there another way to mount ?
@dominica2765
4 жыл бұрын
HI HOPE ALL IS WELL . I HAVE A 2020 TUNDRA PRO AND WANTED TO PUT REAR SAY BAR ON WILL IT LIMIT ME MUCH OFF ROAD .
@hannobernardusbasson4519
2 жыл бұрын
Hello guys i know this is a old video , i would just like to know does this change the amount of tire flex when you are out in the track ?
@kdigitalproductionservices6581
4 жыл бұрын
Do you make custom Sway bars for the Dyna 150 so the truck doesn't rock about?
@DarrenCoull
4 жыл бұрын
I was honestly surprised that some modern 4WD vehicles don't have rear sway bars! I thought this was a safety announcement about people that remove them for "max flex bruh" :-D
@q-ster116
4 жыл бұрын
Most vehicles with leaf springs don't have them on the rear
@grandgaia3969
4 жыл бұрын
Say, Graham, after installing the swaybar, did u notice any difference in how your vehicle flexes during off-road expeditions?
@luke_c2219
4 жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts for installing a rear sway bar in an IRS wagon. Doesn't see a whole lot of towing and has little articulation to start with. Is it worth it or not?
@donaldliverance2597
4 жыл бұрын
Get a sway bar then a sway bar disconnect kit. then when you want you can pull a pin and have full flex, or put it back on and be ready for rally on the road without tipping side to side. stronger sway bar less tip....
@allaboutbalochistan7659
4 жыл бұрын
How it will work for coil spring or coil over when its loaded bump stoper touchs the chassis form both sides what will be the response
@callumteakle8125
4 жыл бұрын
Does it matter if I install a sway bar on my 2017 DMax before doing a lift?
@federicoli5596
2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the sway bar in My hilux 2'' package (dobinson)
@brendandevulder7762
4 жыл бұрын
What about extra cab 4wds would this work for a smaller Ute would love to improve towing with it
@bennyasem7514
2 жыл бұрын
whats the difference between sway bar and space arm?
@OlympusHeavyCavalry
4 жыл бұрын
I am actually very surprised that the Isuzu didn't have any Sway Bar mounts manufactured into it's Chassis. Although It does seem like a pretty easy job to do on a weekend, I would bet that some other vehicle makes are a little more complicated due to other under-Chassis features and equipment. However, this seems pretty straight forward and something that most people should consider and is dependant on their vehicle and their intentions first up. Like Graham said, he had it fit due to the equipment he is carrying as this affects the vehicles handling on and off road. Of note, I would have also thought that Isuzu had Sway Bars as a standard feature ... I do have a question, Can you show the different Sway Bar mounts of the 4x4's you are currently filming with? I believe this will give people an idea, myself included, of how different each manufacturer is and the options available. Cheers for the video :-)
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@chriskidney4828
4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, can you have a Superpro sway bar and air bag suspension? As you use the bump stop as a linkage point.
@benjamingregg-mcdonald7866
4 жыл бұрын
4WD action im looking forward to the next episodes you bring out his year. by the way when is the episode from tassie guys wanna watch it and see what you guys get up to. and graham i love what you have done with the D-max it looks beast. keep up the good work guys and im super looking forward to the new episodes coming out soon. all the best guys.
@cooperquinn8897
4 жыл бұрын
When’s the tassie ep coming out I come home from school everyday and check my iPad to see if there’s any 4wd action vids out
@4WD247
4 жыл бұрын
Next week mate!
@KrokNolzy
4 жыл бұрын
Cooper Quinn usually every thursday bro
@Josh-e2l
4 жыл бұрын
"Why Graham Cahill fitted a rear sway bar," coz he roles his dmax without it... haha Love the show boys
@amcf2000c
4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the dirty 30?
@TheGuyWho3415
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not overly concerned about road performance. Otherwise I wouldn't be on mud terrains, or have a lift.
@fergusnorris6694
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, ive got an 80 series landcruiser with stock suspension. im looking at getting a fulcrum 2 inch lift.what is the comfort and wheel travel like with this lift as im after a bit more comfort and a deccent amount of travel
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Its hard to describe in words, but the comfort is great. Between the shocks and springs we provide it will feel like you are on a cloud compared to factory. Keep in mind you have to get the right spring setup in order to ensure you have the best experience. Feel free to message our team through our website and they can give you more specifications.
@hallee150
4 жыл бұрын
Sway Bars are great on the road, but how does it affect performance off road?
@donaldliverance2597
4 жыл бұрын
The disconnect kit replaces a bolt in each link with a Cotter pin so you just pull the pin hang the link up and you have full text again
@donaldliverance2597
4 жыл бұрын
Making it so you can have the best of both worlds you just have to pull a pin to go offroad and put it back on when your done
@Dudesunperfect
4 жыл бұрын
Donald Liverance so kinda like using a tow bar pin woth the lock pin. Smart.
@donaldliverance2597
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dudesunperfect ya the sway bar link slides on a large pin replacing a bolt in the sway bar and is held in with a small lock pin then you just pull it apart to go wheel but when your on the road you will have ten times better control and ability to turn without your rig tipping side to side
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@nathandwight4899
4 жыл бұрын
Would you require a rear wheel alignment after installation?
@Dudesunperfect
4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Dwight not unless you adjust the trailing arms. As the leafs have a centre pin to the diff mounts, they will always be true. The benefits of a solid diff.
@nathandwight4899
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dudesunperfect Ahh thank you mate! i wasn't 100% sure if that was the case or not.
@q-ster116
4 жыл бұрын
🙄🤣
@nicholassuryathyo1297
4 жыл бұрын
4wd action on a Tuesday???
@vjones9606
4 жыл бұрын
Why not!! I'll take em every day! Lol
@DRTMaverick
4 жыл бұрын
How does this sway bar differ from a stock one when it comes to articulation? I haven't run a sway-bar in years but I'd love a rear sway bar if it doesn't interfere with my rear articulation the way the stock does.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
A SuperPro 4x4 rear sway bar does not interfere with articulation at all. I am planning to do a video to prove this :) The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@DRTMaverick
4 жыл бұрын
@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 Nice. I have a Nissan Xterra (N50, based on the same platform as the D40 but with spring under axle instead of spring over) and the stock sway bay limits the rear suspension an enormous amount, I don't have it installed but I do tow and I don't like towing with such a short wheel-base and no sway-bar. I'd love to try your swaybar out.
@jerrymyahzcat
4 жыл бұрын
So the biggest question is really; Why don’t manufacturers supply the vehicles with a rear sway bar automatically from the factory. If they are that good? There must be a reason they don’t include them??
@asho0oriasho0ori14
3 жыл бұрын
Dose sway bar effects ride comfort ?
@timberwolf88
4 жыл бұрын
do you make them for PK Ranger? and will it affect articulation in the rear when off road?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly not for the PK Ranger.
@jarydt1152
4 жыл бұрын
Gday I've got a hj61 Sahara and it's a little top heavy, I'm looking to get the sway out of it. It already has a rear sway bar in it. I was just wondering what I could do to rectify the sway and if a aftermarket sway bar maybe the answer?
@q-ster116
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, get a thicker aftermarket one if you can and make sure all the bushes are good
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@q-ster116 What he said :)
@brendandever8897
4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference with the three holes? Does it make it stiffer or something?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Yea they are adjustable sway bars, so for each hole you get 25% stiffer with a total of 75% adjustment.
@kieranabbey6418
4 жыл бұрын
can you get a rear sway bar for a 2wd 1990 hilux?
@1FiftyOverland
4 жыл бұрын
WONT ADDING A REAR SWAY BAR REDUCE THE FLEXINESS OF THE REAR AXLE?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@chrisanichol
4 жыл бұрын
Can they deliver to the UK? I’ve messaged but no answer.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Ask us any questions and we will answer with as much detail as possible!
@Dudesunperfect
4 жыл бұрын
Fulcrum Suspensions hi mate what are the worth for a 2008 hilux
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dudesunperfect $480 for the front and $340 for the rear. This is only for the 4WD model though, we don not offer sway bars for the 2WD model.
@bradleyrobinson1394
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the improvement in handling as I have added rear sway bars to old cars that didn't have them but as a 4wd, wouldn't this reduce articulation?
@william6815
4 жыл бұрын
Brad Robinson yes and no depending on how good your suspension set up is but not really a must for 4wding more for people carrying very heavy loads and towing ect
@raffertysrules7184
4 жыл бұрын
Why are these not fitted from factory? Surely it would make swerve testing etc for ANCAP a breeze if they were?
@PaulCoetserBalie
4 жыл бұрын
Will it be possible to install it while having airbag man airbags installed? It’s on a dmax
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
No, not on a d-max. Sadly you can only have one or the other.
@PaulCoetserBalie
4 жыл бұрын
Fulcrum Suspensions , thank you
@cricketfooty95
4 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you guys could give a rough price guide as to what Graham’s new canopy from MITS alloy cost?
@PhillipMikeHunt
4 жыл бұрын
15k
@4x4CampingandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Stevie Jeff plus another 10k
@4x4maximus
4 жыл бұрын
How does that work with my airbags?
@pog4life89
4 жыл бұрын
Aussie off road channel? Subscribed!
@Chris.starfleet
4 жыл бұрын
If it is so good, why don't manufacturers install them as standard? What are the disadvantages?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
A mix of reasons, the main one being dual cabs are not meant to be loaded up. Which is where you see most of the body roll issues with 4WDs. There are no real disadvantages other then you either run airbags or sway bars, you cannot run both. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@MekanikoMartilyo
4 жыл бұрын
Low profile tires next
@moehein5682
3 жыл бұрын
If it is essential thing for safety, then why the manufacturer do not put it already? 🤔
@FALL3NERA
4 жыл бұрын
How does it affect the car whilst off-road?
@akent46
4 жыл бұрын
negatively... less articulation.
@aussiefirie
4 жыл бұрын
@@akent46 wrong
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@aussiefirie
4 жыл бұрын
It has little affect
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect, sway bars should not be seen as a negative. SuperPro 4x4 sway bars are designed to improve vehicle performance off road and on road and when installed correctly for the right application you will see minimal or no loss of articulation loss.
@motoninja2747
4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in what they advise for my Land Rover defender 90
@mm_____
4 жыл бұрын
MotoNinja usually selling and upgrading to any other 4wd 😂
@jackstar_5759
4 жыл бұрын
Wens the dirty30 coming back
@tom_marning
4 жыл бұрын
Jack Star when it’s done…
@erniebarrett5667
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to take the vehicle in for wheel alignment after this DIY installation?
@agentcrm
4 жыл бұрын
No, because it's on a solid axle. Though it's good thing to do most years anyway.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@agentcrm correct :)
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
No you dont, but its good to get your suspension checked once you work on it. We offer free suspension checks if your worried.
@renedeboer7348
4 жыл бұрын
and what if you have coils can you still fit a sway bar ,, ?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it depends on the vehicle.
@brodym6518
4 жыл бұрын
Haha graham called a toyota a badboy😂🤣😂 he has revealed his actual favourite car😂
@chadherriot2693
4 жыл бұрын
Can you fit air bags with this?
@marioflack5140
4 жыл бұрын
@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 How my air bags take the place of the bump stops ?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@marioflack5140 Sorry ignore my last comment, I was confused with vehicles. For dual cabs like the Hilux in this video. You can only have either an airbag or sway bar, not both.
@bigboy9842
4 жыл бұрын
Nahhh remove ya sway bar and lift wheels around corners hehe
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Do you own a patrol 😉
@bigboy9842
4 жыл бұрын
Fulcrum Suspensions yeah an LS gu champagne wagon hehe
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboy9842 Beautiful ahah
@owenrichardson3026
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Graham thanks for that :)
@jasperosborne2646
4 жыл бұрын
How come they don’t come standard if they make it better?
@donaldliverance2597
4 жыл бұрын
They do everywhere else in the world. it's not possible to buy a new car or truck in North America without one on each axle. mind you our rigs are twice the size but it's also why a bunch of stuff you guys have isnt aloud to be sold over here. next time your doing 110 wiggle the wheel back and forth if that sounds like a bad idea then you need a sway bar
@Dudesunperfect
4 жыл бұрын
jasper Osborne lots of shit isn’t standard that make cars better, they build to budgets.
@q-ster116
4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldliverance2597 that's probably because a lot of the trucks/utes over there have coil sprung rear axles, due to leafs being much stiffer than coil springs in most cases they don't need swaybar.
@defenderoff-road
4 жыл бұрын
Do they do a Sway bar for a 1997 80 Series Landcruiser with Coil Springs
@koffeeblack
4 жыл бұрын
I think they do, but Whiteline do, I installed a Whiteline rear bar on my 80 after a 4" lift, and it drives so much better. Recommend it highly!!
@harrisonstonebridge1987
4 жыл бұрын
They come with them from factory
@andrewsimpson669
4 жыл бұрын
In my Isuzu MUX upgrading the suspension stopped body roll...
@skimmybras
4 жыл бұрын
I was literally midway through a Tasmania 4wd action video 😂
@Jacob-su8zq
4 жыл бұрын
A meme a day same
@jaiwiltshire9904
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t need no sway bar need that flex
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Ok.
@lancet-kinzhal-sarmat-su57
4 жыл бұрын
your bar is slim, make bar fater ! and for front axle too.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
The SuperPro 4x4 engineering team tested and designed many sway bar sizes when creating their product range. They found that the sway bar thickness they stuck with offered the most benefits.
@Yuri_Bodlovic
4 жыл бұрын
exist for mitsubishi l200 2005? and shiping for europe?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Google and contact SuperPro Europe, they can help you out.
@sbiggs10
4 жыл бұрын
FYI dont use them jacks stands if u accidentally tap them up they can fall on you
@louwgreeff4195
2 жыл бұрын
Improoves onroad handling but decreases offroad flex so are building a racecar or are going offroad
@issamalbarram9748
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have sway bars for LC71 SWB?
@philburns5044
4 жыл бұрын
Just remove the sway bars, and spend the cash 💵 on diesel,
@amorsolo8242
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@_tyy8121
4 жыл бұрын
How much do they cost?
@leeroys207
4 жыл бұрын
Guys, notice both before and after were shown in slow motion, so we have no idea of the speed which would enhance the effect of the body roll. They could well have been going 3 kmh for the after video which would show litle to no body roll. So unless they show before and after demonstrations in real time with more testing, dont be fooled by another marketing gimmik
@rickfranke4886
4 жыл бұрын
Why is the building in the left video on an angle oh I get it to make it look more real 🙈
@judyripphausen3003
4 жыл бұрын
it's only Tuesday?
@dougalpreston3154
4 жыл бұрын
Graham helping a mate or turning Toyota? D
@evoemperor3776
4 жыл бұрын
Works well onroad but not offroad it will reduce your wheel articulation especially with only rear locker it will work harder offroad.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@tngu17
4 жыл бұрын
said no Patrol owner ever whilst cow tipped.
@chriscj5065
4 жыл бұрын
Might do that to the hilux even though it only dark ute
@chillinthehills8292
2 жыл бұрын
Can it fit my jeep
@My_1fz105
4 жыл бұрын
when's the next video about the 60???
@RS-uy5lv
4 жыл бұрын
I thought Graham said you only need diesel to hit the road and have an adventure?!?
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Thats true, but if you want to make your 4WD better and have the money than you should consider doing aftermarket upgrades such as this one.
@Marts1499
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really see the point I mean when I go off-roading it’s never a race and I like to get as much articulation as possible
@tareskisloki8579
4 жыл бұрын
It's more for daily drivers and touring vehicles that spend most of their time on the road.
@christopherhind8680
4 жыл бұрын
Sway bars, wat are they
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
No many people seem to know.
@maverick2242
4 жыл бұрын
Nice work, almost getting the Dmax to Sooty levels ways to go, but she’s getting her drift on. How many of Shauno’s beers did that job take🤣 Sway bar disconnects for off road 💪(flex) or as we LC folk like to say, articulation🤪 Didn’t see those boys use any anti seize or lock tight Id even go as far as installing a secondary nylon bushed nut so none of that shit loosens itself on those corro’s you Aussies love making on your outback roads. just saying for the self installers, lock it or lose it!🤘
@peteoburrito920
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t sway bars reduce flex
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. Another effect of introducing larger rear sway bars is a reduction in chassis roll. This reduces the effects of “roll camber”. Roll camber is the variation in the wheel and tyre camber setting due to chassis roll. During cornering the presence of chassis roll usually results in the outside wheels gaining positive camber. By increasing the roll stiffness and reducing roll camber effect, the wheel and tyre combination stays closer to its optimal setting. As an alternative, this could be remedied by starting out with large amounts of static camber to counteract the positive camber gain. The trade-off however is the resulting increased tyre wear, and reduction in straight-line handling. Now that the basics are covered, imagine a Nissan Patrol, Toyota Land Cruiser or Toyota Hilux that has had a 4x4 lift kit installed and been lifted 50mm with a bulbar and winch package. It has been fitted out with a draw system, roof rack and tows a twenty foot caravan! This may be the extreme, but somewhere between this and a standard, off the showroom floor vehicle, is where most of these vehicles operate. The factory sway bars were never designed to control anything other than the standard vehicle at standard ride height and with something less than being loaded to their GVM (Gross Vehicle Mass) limit. The modern 4WD Dual cab utility, almost the family sedan of this century. Is normally coil sprung with a strut front end and leaf sprung rear with no rear sway bar support. Becasue of this dual cabs typically suffer from understeer and can be very unstable during high speed directional changes. When you load the vehicle with accessories, people, change its height or tow the problem only gets worse. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@FulcrumSuspensions1976
4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind Grahams D-max runs SuperPro 4x4 sway bars and he has taken that thing all over Australia with no issue.
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