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I've not watched the full vid yet, but i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking that Here's my arguments: -hog mirrors are boring asf -when hog's meta the game isn't fun and hog isn't fun -low skill floor characters like hog shouldn't be meta, he needs to be in a state where you know how to play him a bit to make him work -if everyone goes hog everyone goes hog counters and it's not fun either -hog will get nerfed to the ground and will become unplayable for the next year
@toaq1964
Ай бұрын
I was going to make a very similar comment but I’ll just like yours instead lol.
@allu9200
Ай бұрын
Orisa and Mauga meta is the most fun
@kimoshi7785
Ай бұрын
@@allu9200 These are the 2 WORST metas in the game.
@regit9273
Ай бұрын
hog mirrors pre rework were actually fun because you really could punish someone when landing a hook but now landing a hook on the other hog just dosent feel rewarding in anyway
@sunbear3324
Ай бұрын
Hog mirrors being boring is a 5v5 issue, like most tank problems
@firingallcylinders2949
Ай бұрын
"hey what's tank like right now" 4:01
@cubb-playz9448
Ай бұрын
“Tank diff”
@shavi1322
Ай бұрын
13:12 ah yes, Dva
@firingallcylinders2949
Ай бұрын
Give hog Boosters
@Truxidious
Ай бұрын
Dva's rework goes hard
@sebastianadeshokan
Ай бұрын
What are you on about? That looks like D.va to me
@techfrank2431
Ай бұрын
The icon hero gets stuck on dva🤣
@WeeabooPocky
Ай бұрын
roadhoog is indeed a diva
@Blehmon
Ай бұрын
9:55 I lost it at this. Pure agony lmao
@eeveewithcoffee9554
Ай бұрын
You started talking about your supports needing a raise and then this Kiriko just headshot after your hook and timed a Mei leaving ice block. Yeah they do
@vampirehunter5151
Ай бұрын
Cyx doesn't like hog meta? Am I hearing that right?
@Dolceandgabana
Ай бұрын
I'm a high rank hog main (console) and I agree. Hog meta is not healthy for the game
@Catman92
Ай бұрын
He's fine the way he is now if he got any buff he will destroy the game
@jaymolinski4789
Ай бұрын
Because meta characters always get nerfed to the point of near unplayable.
@firingallcylinders2949
Ай бұрын
He's basically saying that if Hog is really strong then he dunks on all the other tanks making it just Hog 1v1s + Ana Mei, if Hog is good but not broken then there's other comps to play.
@MrBEEOUTCH
Ай бұрын
All of these replies are wrong, he's stated multiple times that Hog meta sucks. Not because Hog vs Hog but because it comes down to support vs support. The Hog running Ana/Kiri will beat the Hog running Brig/Lifeweaver. And, unfortunately, you can't choose your supports.
@PTSDwithME
Ай бұрын
Hog duals are just who jiggle peaks corners better or who’s ana has nade off CD
@anthonycanas4214
Ай бұрын
W timing, I’m eating my lunch
@rxgz5722
Ай бұрын
ye a hog meta would be horrible but i also think that hog shouldnt be a punching bag every time he tries to go for a hook like you ever just go for a hook and theres like 5 people shooting at you with abilities its pretty annoying
@owPhreak
Ай бұрын
Well I mean that's kinda the tanks job no?
@Nasty_J
Ай бұрын
Well yes, that's what the buffs were for, but having armor and no armor is like day and night on tanks. Majority of players are no were near ask skilled as cyx to make it look so op.@owPhreak
@rxgz5722
Ай бұрын
@@owPhreak ngl ive played every tank at a masters level and roadhog feels like a ult battery in that elo cause if you miss your hook your useless maybe hes different in other elos masters right now is kinda toxic
@ghoulbuster1
Ай бұрын
@@rxgz5722 Masters is filled with shitters, specially the supports.
@albertovaldes5181
Ай бұрын
One tank man. You can’t fix that problem. Open Q is the moves
@Madmax-kt4dx
Ай бұрын
13:12 never thought Cyx would be so good at DVa!!
@Overwatch2Pro
Ай бұрын
Splash! That's all I needed to hear.😂
@wolfdawnzero1772
Ай бұрын
(Ahhhh come on man give it to me!) needs to be his new dono sound. 😂
@WBraxx
Ай бұрын
@cyx mate, who's editing your videos?
@rxgz5722
Ай бұрын
13:12 is a dva icon on the bottom left but he is playing hog wtf?
@Truxidious
Ай бұрын
Discord mod be like
@unknown50ct
Ай бұрын
How does Sh!ke rename to lethal at the very end?
@yairp.5987
Ай бұрын
Tienes razón Cyx, en un meta de Hog gana quien tenga los supports más hábiles
@Kishiiknight
Ай бұрын
Si y eso es super aburrido el cambio a el hp suponía eliminar eso y quitarle poder a los supports y estamos lentamente regresando a la misma cosa
@khaledhussin6161
Ай бұрын
Why Hog pic was “Diva” in the last round?!
@Joshh.K
Ай бұрын
does wholehog not have a sensitivity setting for when you ult? that would be mint or marco Q to change DPI when you press it?
@eeveewithcoffee9554
Ай бұрын
You’ll have to press Q again to change the DPI back
@Joshh.K
Ай бұрын
@eeveewithcoffee9554 that's fine really better than losing mousemat tbf 😅
@jamescrawford2547
Ай бұрын
10:14 nobody is talking about how crazy this hook it
@johnbrady6153
Ай бұрын
absolutely filthy!
@camkraw893
Ай бұрын
That was disgusting
@Truxidious
Ай бұрын
13:12 Cyx enabled Discord mod
@antient_atlas
Ай бұрын
Man, where are streams?
@jaedenkhalid
Ай бұрын
Cyx rlly be having some of the best supports
@nytharris2980
Ай бұрын
Wowzers
@africansoldier9312
Ай бұрын
Powered up, Kitsune and whole hog and that other hog was still alive in the air that long? Okay.
@obb0210
Ай бұрын
I wish i could always have that kiriko at the first match damn she always suzu at the right time
@joebrothough2017
Ай бұрын
Cyx when hog is meta:😡 cyx when hog isn’t meta:😡
@JayPayaso24
Ай бұрын
8:50 What did SoJourn say? 😂
@damiangonzalez2755
Ай бұрын
Woah
@Fluke2SS
Ай бұрын
I've been, anti'd slept, hacked, hindered, knocked down and pinned all at once. Lotsa fun. Especially when you have a kiri who doesn't know how or when to suzu. IF you even have a kiri at all.
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
Ай бұрын
That's just the life of all tanks at some though.
@Skeletor1
Ай бұрын
Damn
@PlainTarget
Ай бұрын
9:55 Me when bro is cheeks out and lubed up
@Printzor
Ай бұрын
Shoutout to your supports game 1
@StarCrow77Gaming
Ай бұрын
Noice
@ExWitDaFacts
Ай бұрын
There’s probably never gonna be a Hog Meta because of how many debuffs are in the game and the fact that he has no shield. He’s just a damage soaker and has to use an ability that takes 2-3 seconds to get back to enough health not to stress.
@8irch
Ай бұрын
saying this like there isnt a hog meta right now and there werent like 5 previous ones 😂
@OmniscientKaiser
Ай бұрын
We fell off as a comment section honestly 😴
@koenakoena9365
Ай бұрын
Who's we?
@OmniscientKaiser
Ай бұрын
@@koenakoena9365 "bro fell off"
@bread8294
Ай бұрын
hog is actually insanely fun to play, i have around 9 hours on him and just imitating what cyx is doing. but sometimes i dont know why we still lose even tho i hit lots of my hooks, anyone a hog pro or maybe if cyx does replay review, thatd be nice
@hbshadow8981
Ай бұрын
You too huh? Cuz ive had games with high elims and low deaths on hog and still lost
@bread8294
Ай бұрын
@@hbshadow8981 yea, theres also multiple games where other tank went hog counters, zarya, sigma, dva and worst of them all, mauga but even so, i still do better due to watching cyx but still lost, dont know how he does it where he still pulls a win
@kingclampz6081
Ай бұрын
Hog needs 750hp for starters
@killinit1068
Ай бұрын
You wanna feel special Great gameplay nothing less
@BeastMode-bw2ry
Ай бұрын
Yeah Hog is like a Dark Souls boss now. Old hog felt like a stoppable character that was fun, skillful, and rewarded good players who hit their shots and hooks.
@plaqued9526
Ай бұрын
its better when hog is throw pick. That's what we are at heart.
@falseparadox3838
Ай бұрын
As a hog main, I really don’t want a hog meta. It results in EVERY match feeling the exact same. I play hog, and after the enemies lose ONE fight half of them swap to hog counters if they’re not already playing one. Almost every match results in me playing against Orisa/Mauga, Reaper, Bastion, Ana, and Zen. It gets really boring really fast
@dpow9809
Ай бұрын
To be fair, that's just tanking nowdays. Unless you're like, Rein or Sigma you're immediately counter picked.
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
Ай бұрын
@@dpow9809Nah, even as Rein or Sigma you'd get counterswapped.
@salarmosavi9189
Ай бұрын
oh well, anyone can play hog now and role/climb. Specially in lower ranks where focus fire is non existent, hog just walks around and kill everyone, without every being punished. I'm master and my lil bro plays at plat. Games have become so miserable for him with hog infestation that he stopped playing 2 days after HS dmg nerf.
@louisedyhlen3234
Ай бұрын
I love this guys gameplay, I just wish there was a way to watch people's stream and muting only the streamer and not the game.
@alex-nq1kv
Ай бұрын
I don't like it either tbh, its just a boring match-up nowadays
@adrianllamas1231
Ай бұрын
How many Smurf accounts does he have??
@aria.e
Ай бұрын
Horse meta or hog meta?
@shainshahini368
Ай бұрын
Is hog becoming meta rn?
@sebastianrodriguez8992
Ай бұрын
Sorta yeah, he's a consistent pick and has self healing with Dr so it makes the supports job easier, can hook people out of position and secure kills on targets really well, plus his ult is a tank shredder so he just has all the tools he needs to be good
@milesgomez8253
Ай бұрын
He's a popular ranked demon. He isn't gonna be taking over coordinated play but in the average ranked game I see him all the time
@BloodRain222
Ай бұрын
@@sebastianrodriguez8992What do you mean sort of yeah he’s been meta for most of the season. He has a 60% win rate across all ranks
@katiekale1410
Ай бұрын
Comment comment...... yeah we fell off
@americoechevarria8387
Ай бұрын
I’m here because I can
@eeveewithcoffee9554
Ай бұрын
Cyx doesn’t want Hog meta because he doesn’t want to hit rank 1 that easily. Dominating every mirror match. Cyx likes a challenge
@firingallcylinders2949
Ай бұрын
Ever since the 20% passive + new tank changes it's been a hog meta, I'd say I see an enemy Hog in 3/4 of ranked matches. There's some tanks that I legit almost never see, Rein, Ram, JQ, D.va because hog just craps on them.
@michaeljacinto7214
Ай бұрын
As a rein main. I’ve been picking up hog because I deadass can’t do nothing unless my whole team swaps to help counter the hog.
@jahmasih4193
Ай бұрын
Hog is actually good at what tanks are supposed to be good at, tanking and people have a problem with that? He is one of the most counterable tanks in the game and the biggest target. I think hog is good not op.
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
Ай бұрын
Realistically people just don't like being kidnapped from max range when a hog does a jump peek and puts you behind a wall. I know I don't whenever I play tank even when im aware he has hook. Because dodging it isnt as easy as it can be half the time. That shit comes out really fast for a projectile skill shot. And it gets more annoying the higher you climb with hogs faking on who they look at etc.
@BloodRain222
Ай бұрын
He has a 60% win rate across the board and is insanely easy to get value on. He is definitely one of the least counter-able tanks in the game because of breather
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
Ай бұрын
@@BloodRain222 and people called me mad when i said tab was essentially uncounterable when it got changed
@jahmasih4193
Ай бұрын
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong I'm really not sure those type of techniques were intended by the developers.
@xshadow_28x95
Ай бұрын
@Cyx grow out your beard you won't bussy
@spoof6023
Ай бұрын
I still dont understand how it became a hog meta. the hero is pretty easy to outplay it's just that players dont want to humble down and stop ego peeking a character that wants you to you ego peek or challenge him unprepared. it's like playing against a widow but his hook shot is 6 seconds vs her 1.4 seconds (also across the map) tanks at the moment are just worse again. like they are now harder to kill so hog is harder to kill which means you need to dump more resources into them which sucks for both parties, the hog/tank and both teams. it's just unfun.
@deathbombs
Ай бұрын
Hog duels are fire
@YuriVaresotto
Ай бұрын
I think devs should try to introduce max "counter-swap limit picks" for game (maybe 1 or max 2). It results annoying play like this in the majority of time. Please like this comment to support this idea
@r.9006
Ай бұрын
Hog meta is so bad that even hog mains dont want it
@Neva-evadine
Ай бұрын
Should really not show your twitch chat. Super embarrassing for you and your “brand”. Mods are absolute garbage.
@kevinrodriguez62
Ай бұрын
1 view 20 seconds bro fell off
@YRG_Diddle
Ай бұрын
How old are you?
@kevinrodriguez62
Ай бұрын
@@YRG_Diddlewhy do u care
@YRG_Diddle
Ай бұрын
@@kevinrodriguez62bc ts corny it's not even funny anymore like it's a middle school joke that's not even funny corny
@kevinrodriguez62
Ай бұрын
@@YRG_Diddle then don’t reply, you sound stupid. Don’t comment if you don’t like what you see, simple.
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