Worked as a psychologist at a psychiatric clinic where workers were discouraged from showing basic human affection towards patients as these people “didn’t know limits”. Dehumanization was commonplace and no one seemed to realize that this issue was heavily linked to poor outcomes in treatment. Quit after a year and would never go back to a place like that.
@goertzpsychiatry9340
3 жыл бұрын
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@beataannanowak659
3 жыл бұрын
There are so many places like that. Raped girls are punished for being raped. Women that lost their children are punished for their loss, etc.
@koalafromtomorrow5656
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that the psychopath run the world thank you for proving that inmate run the assylum have a nice day
@muirgirl
3 жыл бұрын
Zimbardo warned us all.
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@jdoedoenet
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel, please know that this (now former) Registered Mental Health Nurse just spent the last 20 minutes and 25 seconds nodding his head, and wiping away tears. Thank you for all that you do.
@karendalsadik7119
4 жыл бұрын
Lane G With your permission I wish I could give you an energetic hug.
@jdoedoenet
4 жыл бұрын
@@karendalsadik7119 Received with much gratitude, and returned in kindness. Blessings.
@Userjo37
4 жыл бұрын
What are you up to now? I’m looking to get out
@jdoedoenet
4 жыл бұрын
@@Userjo37I've gone back to university to become a private counselling psychologist. I am going to devote myself to keeping as many kids as possible from EVER ending up inside such a toxic and abusive system. They deserve better.
@j.h.miretskay3430
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty, acknowledging the flaws of the system, and working to right the wrongs.
@postcodeox278
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Doctors often only look at the symptoms. Most of them don't bother trying to understand cause of the problem
@michasosnowski5918
4 жыл бұрын
Kraeplinian paradigm still working. They were trained to do so. Psychiarist who are not that way are therefore exception.
@whiteybopbop9232
3 жыл бұрын
True
@diamondheart11
Жыл бұрын
They can't look at the root only the symptons. If they figure out the root of the problem and heal you, then they lose their income, they need you sick for them to survive hence why they treat patients like objects like Daniel said in the video.
@rukisar6312
4 жыл бұрын
In many cases, it sounds like this may be a conscious or unconscious attempt by society to silence victims of abuse. Erasing someone's longterm memory sounds like the perfect coverup for criminal abusers.
@cantwaittodietoday9924
4 жыл бұрын
yeah not forgetting their overt gaslighting whenever patients speak up they will use anger and lies to gaslight the patient blaming the patient of being unwell and therefore unable to remember what really happened. and they will say stupid things like the patient is being delusional or aggressive when the patient is just speaking up against their abuse and bs.
@cosmicallis7936
3 жыл бұрын
And the whole "false memories" thing never set right with me either...😐😐😐
@shannonsharp1084
3 жыл бұрын
Yup so true
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@mazar11221122
Жыл бұрын
No, they should jail the abuser and fix the abused, once the abuser is out of their life, the chance of them recovering on their own over time is pretty high unless the damage is severe or very severe then it will take longer and they might need some therapy, but time can heal and especially with the absence of the abuser, they will automatically feel better, just like when a narcissist goes to jail, everyone around them is relieved
@aujuliawod
4 жыл бұрын
My grandmother died when she was 68. (She would be in her 80s if she was still alive) She was bipolar all her life. At the end they took her off lithium because it was harming her liver and then put her on and off all kinds of crazy things. Her body just couldn’t take it anymore at her age. At some point they offered her ECT but she refused. She’d had it in a mental hospital when she was young and it terrified her. After the lithium she really had a major break down and ended up in state mental hospital wing for older people with metal health problems. It was the most horrible place I have ever visited. Dark, the staff all sitting in their box, locked down(which was crazy because they were all elderly), no plants, nothing on the walls...in her room there was just a metal bed with no window. You put me in there I would be crazy in a couple days. My dad worked really hard to find her better living circumstances but I still think about that place. So weird how we treat people who are just hurting and need the most love and care.
@maggie0285
4 жыл бұрын
That's sad. Very heartbreaking.
@postcodeox278
4 жыл бұрын
My mum used to be on lithium, now she is on Sodium valproate. Shes 73 now
@harrynac6017
4 жыл бұрын
I friend of mine lost his kidneys because of lithium. He got them prescribed after a psychose and was told he should take them the rest of his life or else he would get psychotic again. Obviously he had to stop with the lithium (and go on dialysis) and guess what? Without the lithium he never got a psychose again.
@karendalsadik7119
4 жыл бұрын
AJuliaH what State was this in?
@anz10
4 жыл бұрын
@ that's a horrible stereotype..
@hollyjean2800
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been admitted to a psych hospital. I spent a couple of weeks there, years ago. It’s all true. The only healing was with the other patients. We loved each other.
@susanparrish1380
9 ай бұрын
Same........sooooooooo #*T*R*U*E* !!!!!!!❤️✝️❤️
@Hithere-dc2qx
5 ай бұрын
Totally true. Socializing saved me from the psychosis I was in. I actually liked the psychiatrist in training, while the head up guy I am not fond of. The first younger guy that I actually spoke with, said I straight up did not have schizophrenia, while the head psych looked at a few scribbles on paper and put me on a high dose of abilify.
@michelle_cen
10 ай бұрын
This almost made me cry and remember how I was treated as an eating disorder patient as a teen. Thank you for calling out the disgusting ways that patients can be handled. As an aspiring mental health therapist now I want the world to be different.
@junglejim-hs7nb
4 жыл бұрын
i was in a psych ward last summer and it was always understaffed, but on sundays/holidays the staff that had to work on those days were verbally abusive and unfair because they werent being supervised and were frustrated with their work hours. one of them kept making bird noises during meals to freak us out and when i asked them to stop they pretended they werent. in the same day after i got mad at them and was talking to my "friends" about how they can't do their jobs they yelled at all of us at the next meal and said we dont have boundaries and need to stop victimizing ourselves. they were basically picking on people in a psych unit who all wanted to kill themselves, and agressively dehumanized all of us. i hope i never become such a pathetic person.
@dominusbalial835
4 ай бұрын
That bird nice thing is incredibly childish and casually malicious. That would be very yucky and disturbing to watch even though it's so mild, it's very impish and goblinoid of a thing to do. Yelling at you for talking horribly about their treatment of you in a mental hospital is a violation of your boundaries as a patient who is supposed to be under their care. Their accusation of not respecting your boundaries was self projection of their own behaviours onto you and the clientele that they were probably also abusing, I mean you described that already. I hope that you've become a better person since those experiences.
@aquamarine0023
4 жыл бұрын
ECT is an incredibly barbaric practice. It is disgusting that it is actually legal!! You're a truly caring and wise person, Daniel. Thank you for sharing your experience!
@alinalemanska2029
11 ай бұрын
ECT is about 459 watts = three wall outlets. The brain is getting fried. It does permanent brain damage instantly. It's more like a war weapon. The drugs they use create lots of damage and disorders in the body. It looks more like a tourture site. It looks like human trafficking. What right does a doctor have to do all these body and mind altering procedures against a persons will. To somebody who can speak for themselves. Its like kidnaping and assault.
@nachnirgendwo
4 жыл бұрын
I will never forget the way the psych ward head psychiatrist looked down at me. I don't know if I've ever felt so powerless as I did sitting alone with him in his office. He smirked at me as he ticked my symptom boxes, like we both knew this itself was a sick joke. I refused all medication in the ward. I don't know what to say except the authoritarianism in that environment was perverse and retraumatizing. During my 2019 stay none of the employees spoke about trauma. The inpatients were so traumatized and back then none of us even had the vocabulary for it. That's so disempowering. It felt so messed up. I withdrew into myself after that. For the first time in my life, I had found justification to build up my own defenses. My psychiatric hold awakened a previously dormant emotion of mine: self-protective rage. I eventually stopped seeing therapists. I've been self-healing for over six months now. I've never been able to allow such bliss and compassion into my heart as I have this year. Daniel thank you for validating such a range of (my) experiences. I have more healing ahead of me.
@etymyt
3 жыл бұрын
I remember how the psychiatrist at the psych ward would smirk at me. It was horrifying how much pleasure he seemed to take in making demeaning comments. I don't think I'd ever felt so powerless and scared before. I was shocked and disbelieving. How could this be happening? How is this person a psychiatrist? How and why am I supposed to trust this person who openly mocks my distress? Who acts like a child? Should I trust anyone working under them either? Even the nicer and more levelheaded staff would dance around the matter of the psychiatrist's poor character and defend the system. Imagine thinking that it's ok or at all defensible for a doctor to be smirking at a distressed patient in the midst of a crisis. I was already very used to doubting my own instincts so even before I'd tried to talk to anyone about his attitude, I'd basically already accepted the idea that my concern was trivial. It's incredibly easy for staff to gaslight their vulnerable patients by saying they're just being oversensitive and have warped perceptions.
@src3360
3 жыл бұрын
Were you on medications prior to your visit??
@ЯфКДВНСКБНСДГДЙФВБЦНВВН
3 жыл бұрын
@@etymyt I had a similar experience at the psych ward as well. Honestly didn't know how common this was. I have a feeling that some psychiatrists chose their profession because they are psychopathic and like to bully others. The psychiatrist I had was a complete a$$hole. He also made implicitly derogatory comments about my Jewish origins and often smirked at me sadistically. I was only 18 at the time. You know what's funny, though? He got really pissed off because I spoke Russian better than he did. He is Indian and studied in Ukraine, so he knew some of the language. Made an absolute fool of himself because he went into mini-rages on me occasionally and acted like a toddler.
@ЯфКДВНСКБНСДГДЙФВБЦНВВН
3 жыл бұрын
@@etymyt And I can imagine that the reason why the other staff ignore the psychiatrist's behavior might be due to fear of losing their jobs or some kind of retaliation against them. Either that, or they're scum too.
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@rocksteele6926
4 жыл бұрын
I worked in a "Psych" unit briefly, while doing my undergraduate degree. They treated the patients very poorly, the staff was supremely arrogant and self righteous. I am not surprised it creates a revolving door for the patients.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
Sounds familiar to my experience of psychiatrists.. supremely arrogant and self-righteous sums them up well. And it's so true these hospitals have patients in and out for all their lives getting worse every time from what I've seen .nobody is cured some lucky ones have the spirit left after the 1st stay, to do everything in their power to never go back maybe they have enough support to do this, I feel so bad for those that don't.
@catherinebirch2399
Жыл бұрын
There are a couple of reasons for the revolving door problem. The psychiatric treatment given in mental hospitals don't cure people, they just suppress symptoms for a while. Another reason is that once the psychiatric system gets it's claws into someone it doesn't want to let go. One tiny mistake and the patient is back in hospital again and possibly becomes institutionalised and unable to cope with life outside hospital.
@lilafeldman8630
8 ай бұрын
And ironically, that's the worst approach you can take with people like that.
@raphaellavelasquez8144
4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that there's a higher risk of a person commiting suicide after staying in a mental hospital than if they hadn't gone.
@ebonyjohnson1580
3 жыл бұрын
It's true
@ebonyjohnson1580
3 жыл бұрын
@GreyLock Taunton The fact that you said the word “behave” and that the system categorizes things such as depression or anxiety as “behavioral” issues is a huge problem.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it drove my brother to suicide. He had depression and anxiety but ended up with an eating disorder and psychosis after psychiatric drugs and bullying in hospital . Never received any counselling just cruel drugs and bullying. He was tortured not helped. This went on for years, the more he tried to stand up for himself and the more his family did, the worse the treatment he got. He died in 2011. Nothing has changed in public mental health service here I know because now I'm involved with them and getting similar treatment but as an outpatient. Tortured with drugs that I'm now trying to come off. Everybody told me to give the service another chance and I was desperate so I did but I regret it. The trouble is that there is nothing else available for people suffering from emotional trauma when they have no money to pay for private therapy and often the private therapy isn't good anyway. Counselling from charity organisations is hit and miss but mostly miss. Good counselling and therapy is so hard to find. Clients/ patients need independent advocates with them at all times when dealing with psychiatrists.. But then again, what is the point in psychiatrists at all because all they do is cookie-cutter diagnosis and then push dangerous pharmaceuticals to zombify and control .
@Hithere-dc2qx
5 ай бұрын
Yes I felt fine in the hospital and got over my ptsd induced psychosis. They put me on drugs the last 2 days I was there, dispite feeling totally normal at that point, and I ended up having a suicide attempt months thereafter. Wasn't aware that suicidal ideation was a side effect of anti psychotics. Aside from the drugs I was put on, I actually felt quite good in the hospital. The inpatient psychiatrist literally ruined whatever benefits that experience had for me
@SantaFeSuperChief1
4 жыл бұрын
I've tried to share your videos (or sometimes just regurgitating the information to them verbally) with some of my friends in the mental health field, patients, therapists, etc and let me tell you these are not lessons that people like to hear. I'm so passionate about my critique of the mental health system, and despite how much science there is to back up my arguments, people still treat me as if I'm some kind of heretic. The horrors of modern psychiatry are so ingrained in our society, that anyone speaking against how dangerous psychiatric drugs are or how ECT is the same as lobotomy, will not be taken seriously. Even though there are studies BY DRUG COMPANIES that back up that information. But luckily I don't personally care if I'm seen as a heretic, if I can convince even one person to avoid psychiatry, then I'll be satisfied.
@adamstephens9043
Жыл бұрын
Keep it up. We need you. And thank you.
@NB-wu7zo
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel speaks so much truth in this video. All of it is true. I’ve been in and out of psych hospitals since 2007, and most of the patients I met had past trauma or abuse. None of them needed medicine. They did need friends who understood them and people who cared about or loved them. I used to tell the staff and doctors “There’s no pill to treat my trauma” when they tried to medicate me. What gets people who wanted to die to want to live? Knowing that they’re not alone in this world. Knowing they’re loved, that others care about them and they are capable of loving themselves and others. Just connecting to other patients and laughing helped to want to live again. What didn’t get people out of those places? Psychiatric medications, ECT, the staff, being overmedicated or anything to do with the hospital. The only thing these places do is bring like minded traumatized people together who thought they were alone in the world. Once they realize they aren’t alone, and they CAN connect to others, they decide maybe living is better than dying. Thanks for this video, Daniel. It brings back many painful memories of being traumatized in those hospitals, but it also brought back the memory of being connected to other patients instead of feeling alone in this world.
@kathleengivant-taylor2277
Жыл бұрын
I was hospitalized for severe eating disorder years ago. I was forced mds, force fed with nasal gastric tube if I did not eat willingly while being restrained. If I did not take mds I would be restrained and given mds by injection. This was very traumatic and painful and caused PTSD in me for years. I found recovery some time later with a dr who I trusted and a dietitian that worked with eating disorder patients. I went too a support group that was very helpful also but I had a strong desire to recover at that point
@marydepugh9391
4 жыл бұрын
You are so on point. The patients are treated like objects and over medicated.
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@LibertyDino
2 ай бұрын
Yup. I had psychological rehab a year ago. My therapist was great but the psychiatrists would constantly push meds in ways way worse than most drug dealers I've known. I was one of the few going into the forest on a daily basis. There were about 3 other ppl who did it too and they too refused meds.
@bdmenne
4 жыл бұрын
I worked 10 years in a child psych hospital acute unit, before that 1 year long term child psyche unit. Little did I know, I needed profound treatment myself, but still I had keys. A lot of haunting memories, and some good. I tried, and did well enough. Better than most. I was a thorn against most of the staff, ally of the pt.s. Few good staff. Staff meetings/pt. Debriefings so invasive & unnecessary, demoralizing & boring. I remember Preventing injection happy RNs by intervening to deescalate often. So many staff had ZERO business working there. 11 years!! Resonated with your experience, Daniel. 🙏🏻
@jdoedoenet
4 жыл бұрын
5 years in an acute inpatient child & adolescent ward as an RN. Your words resonated very strongly with me. Thank you - from a fellow 'thorn'!
@Haleh1
Жыл бұрын
I hated working at one, too. I noticed that the employees who were successful had no hearts. I didn't want to be like them.
@mooncatandberyl5372
Жыл бұрын
patients are not the only ones with mental illnesses, psychiatrist have dangerous conditions themselves, such as psychopathy, thats why they chose the profession, power and control over vulnerable patients.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
I have come to this conclusion myself..so many psychiatrists (especially the head or chief ones in any establishment )display narcissistic and psychopatic traits. They are extremely passive aggressive and manipulative extremely defensive when their methods/ beliefs are questioned in the slightest way and they all have a steely coldness about them that they cannot hide regardless of how personable and understanding they try to appear to be . Their facade infront of patient's family dissappear fairly quickly once they have their client on their own.
@shanespellman9131
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mackler: givin it real to the mental health community. Need much more of that. Much much more!!
@sabina7978-e4y
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@not2tees
4 жыл бұрын
You lift the mental hospital rock, and there are the millipede power manipulators crawling around and it is Horrible!
@shanespellman9131
4 жыл бұрын
@@not2tees Do you think, that power positions should only be allowed to be given to those who have lived in a zen(like)monastery for 10+ years would help us? or just nup, humans still too corruptible?
@Userjo37
4 жыл бұрын
Honey I hear you! I know work as a mental health nurse in Emergency, much more autonomy and able to talk to people in the moment without pathologisation of patients etc
@johnherbert9849
4 жыл бұрын
I've been hospitilized for 9 years now in France and your video is accurate. The ritualized humiliation of what they call care and what everybody else Calls torture.
@ineffablestream4523
4 жыл бұрын
Spot on, Daniel. I was hired as the state mandated (appointed) Patients' Rights' Advocate for people in locked psych wards in the 70s and saw all that you have so well elucidated, and more than you could say in a 20 minute video, as I am sure must be also true for you. To say the least, it was eye opening. Once I remember sitting in on a Crisis Intervention team interview with someone who was brought in for being in a state of panic. He kept telling the team is was fine but that his beloved dog had just died and he was upset. The team 'assessed' this man starting with asking him to count backwards from 100 in units of 7 (so 100, 93, 86, 79, 72 etc). He did that in about 15 seconds down to zero. Then they asked him who the current U.S. president was and if he could list the presidents from the current one going backwards in time. He was able to get from Jimmy Carter to George Washington in about 60 seconds. So they locked him up for being 'hyper-rational'. I had a team of lawyers who took cases on a rotating and pro-bono basis and we got him out the next day, but he was traumatized (forced drugging and 4-point restraints) on top of being traumatized (the assessment experience) on top of being traumatized (his dog dying). I would sit in on staff meetings and the psychiatrists would hold a chart for one patient and be talking about another, not realizing they were not the same person, and give the 'right' prescriptions to the wrong patient as a result. They had a woman in there once who was on a drug to manage her epilepsy and she accidentally overdosed on the meds. She was also pregnant when this happened. The psychiatrist, in the first meeting with the patient - lasting about 10 minutes - told the woman she had a choice to either abort the baby or stay in the psych ward until she gave birth and then she would have to give the baby up for adoption. We took him, and a few other psychiatrists, to court and either had their license suspended or, in his case, revoked. I could go on, as I'm sure you could. The job and experiences I had were what inspired me to become a doctor of natural, alternative healing, as I witnessed the mental 'health' system more often than not become an endless revolving door nightmare where humans got worse and rarely better - and I wanted to get to people way before they would ever end up in this situation. Very valuable, but painful, awakening process for me. So, yes, Daniel. I can well bear witness to your account.
@lynnmarieanderson1744
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea of how a person could be weaned off of psyche meds so they don't need to take them the rest of their life??? I'm 49, I was diagnosed as having bipolar disorder back when I was 16. I don't feel like any medication really helps that much anymore and I'm tired of having to see psychiatrists. I never have abused alcohol or done illegal drugs, but I'm ready to try taking CBD oil or do something different. Whoever said psychiatrists really help anyone?
@areuarealman7269
Жыл бұрын
Uhhh crisis center texas up 3 days diagnosed with a crazy disorder and wrong meds with follow up wrong meds my brain is perfectly messed up now ....thanx texas .
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou and bless you for what you did for those victims of this horrible system, - this complete abuse of power ! Things haven't really changed much these days, they just hide the abuse better, it's more subtle and underhand. More drugs are now given to outpatients they're a bit like a chemical curfew tag I guess ..
@josiejarvisOT
4 жыл бұрын
Such important honesty to bring light to
@christinebadostain6887
4 жыл бұрын
Been in a psychiatric hospital twice. They were symptom oriented and get the patient on meds, "stabilized" and out the door as quickly as possible. It was not the locked ward type hospitals but they were hospitals/"treatment centers" where I just realized I had to play the b. s. game until I could get out of there.
@maggie0285
4 жыл бұрын
So many thoughts on this. The way I describe my life is I had some problems as a 13 year old girl. I was hospitalized at 13 and back in the day it was common to be in the hospital for months. That set me up for many years of going through a revolving door of mental health treatment. I often wonder if I never went to the hospital how my life would have been. I learned self destructive behavior in that type of environment that I would have never picked up if I never went to the hospital. The safest I ever felt was being on a psych unit that wasn't locked. I also think the biggest part of my life suffering wasn't from my own personal problems but the trauma I experienced in the hospital. Such a heavy load to carry. And yes I agree that most are on a power trip and going against the grain almost never works. I feel like over the years my power was stripped away and I learned to be helpless. I wish someone could take an atomic bomb and just blow up the mental health system and start all over. I think the big problem is the power hungry people. More power needs to be given to the patient and let them make choices. Don't take their hope away.
@goertzpsychiatry9340
3 жыл бұрын
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@muirgirl
3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry. Your ability to identify the abuse and your resilience despite its severity is amazing. It may be validating to read Nellie Bly's "10 Days in a Madhouse." The medical system has always been abusive, especially to girls and women, and there is nothing new or modern about it. I hope you find freedom from the pain of that trauma. Wishing you well!
@les2150
Жыл бұрын
You tell the truth. I have a horrible story about psychiatric abuse. And I never even had a mental disorder. I believe I’ll make a video too.
@dmackler58
Жыл бұрын
I hope you make the video. There are never too many videos about this subject.
@IAm-qf2xb
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same story in group homes for the disabled. People come in with a purely physical problem, and the psychotropics turn them into mush. It is devastating.
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@Patrusfarr
4 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped me understand and heal myself.
@mgee303
Жыл бұрын
As someone who was in and out of psych wards for eating disorders I can confirm everything you say here. I exactly felt like a zoo animal telling private stories in front of med students. I have so many stories that I have never told anyone, and probably never will.
@sarahw7616
11 ай бұрын
The med student situation happened to me. Sickening
@harrynac6017
4 жыл бұрын
It's a real wast for humanity to not treat anorexia patients well. You have to be really, really strong to be in puberty and not eat. I've seen some of them recover, yes it's possible, and picking up life again. These people can move mountains.
@altycoggydeer
4 жыл бұрын
I`ve recovered from eating disorder (I`d say is was mild anorexia,) without therapy or meds. I just found a kond person, who treated me as a human being and was nice to me. We were friends\lovers for half a year, and I`ve never starved myself again. But actual psychotherapy and psychiatric drugs traumatized me more than helped... I still remember my psychotherapist, who told be, that noone cared about my problems and noone would ever care... We should stop being doctors and patiens and start being people to each other.
@manonvernon8646
4 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that one (of many) reasons there has been an explosion in reverence for the mental health system is because its a system of authority that a lot of people lack in their lives and crave - coming from broken homes and the authoritarian school system - right off the bat Mackler says that there is a strong authoritarian hierachy in the hospital.
@samwallaceart288
4 жыл бұрын
Manon Vernon - My theory is that the pro- mental health culture we inhabit is, by accident or by design, a coping mechanism. Hush the weird ones and tuck them away in safety, so that the people with desirable behavior can be left to their work. I think that to assume any one group maliciously controls everything is itself wishful thinking. I suspect the truth is scarier than that; humanity en masse takes on a mechanical nature. Having enough of us around, we create this terrifying machine of mass transformation; but it’s not something we can control, and it’s not something we can stop; no matter what program or what system or was method, the machine consumes, and the machine leaves people in the cracks. Mental health reverence, in a sense, the human self-worship pervasive of modern times, is a way for us to be ok with being part of the machine. The question isn’t one of leaving the machine, for it’s something inherently built in to humanity as a species; the question is, how can we best interact with the machine, over-ride the machine, overcome it, and live a righteous life despite our limitations. On the other hand, mental health culture, when at its most genuine, is still only about being as cohesive to the machine as possible; a respectable, but limited solution.
@muirgirl
3 жыл бұрын
Neoliberal medicine has indeed been corrupted by the drumbeat of patriarchal capitalism. Modern psychotherapy is only different in how it's marketed; beyond that nothing has changed since the Industrial Age when our modern cultural value system was invented.
@daisy7066
4 жыл бұрын
It's scary how traumatizing these places actually are & how the psychiatrists go along with it. Lots of sadism, yeah. It's not confined to psych wards, I recently had a terrible experience in a heart ward! Came out traumatised, made a complaint.
@cameronaerobics398
4 жыл бұрын
My Mum worked in a high security psychiatric (prison) hospital as a gym manager/taught exercise classes there for 15 years but she also worked psychologists, dieticians and nurses. She LOVED the job & the patients but HATED the people who worked there, especially managers and supervisors, they were toxic.
@MindShiftChronicle
19 күн бұрын
You mum seems like a one of a kind!
@stefaniamirri1112
4 жыл бұрын
My daily bowing and thank and blessing to you Daniel.. MAN.. you see a Man!! Goodness.. Bless you bless you bless youuu!! Psychiatric wards are RE-TRAUMATIZING the patients even torturing them, cause they apply their own vision of reality that is just 1/3 of the whole and by such a lack of knowledge and understanding of the human being and psyche they play the role of those, in charge. Their narcissism giggles of all the power they can execute on ppl with no defenses!! And you posted this just one hour ago, related to just 20 years ago? And I guess you are meaning things are still going on like that? I bet you shine high fighting these criminal approaches Man.. I think your followers will start a Daniel Makler movement soon you are just great, you should be in charge of those committees to drive the healing in MH!! Goodness!
@Mawi331
4 жыл бұрын
Again such an amazing an important video! I was immediately reminded of those stupid useless and humiliating case conferences. There would be a schedule on the door and everyone would just stand in front waiting and be like : oh great here we go again... It caused anxiety for a lot of people and I also saw people leaving the room in tears or shaking before going inside. All of these "professionals" sitting there would look at you with these blank faces and only ask you how you are, only to directly discuss the most important thing: drugs. Just blindly suggesting to try out a handful even if you only decided to go there because you were looking for a break since life actually can be hard at 19 while breaking away from your abusive unhealthy parents. One woman there said that she wasn't doing well in the case conference and the head psychiatrist said in front of all these people (like maybe 15-20 people siting in a half circle all facing your little lonely chair on the other side) : this is not a vacation retreat for people who get a divorce! That's how they would talk to people. Other times when you told them how you were the only response would be them starting to discuss the next meds while you were sitting there and they'd often times not even address you while doing so. When I said I didn't want any medication though, I was questioned as if I were stupid and then brushed over and they would repeatedly try to get me to take them. They actually lied to me too and said I could just take that one antidepressant for a short period of time and it wasn't a big deal. I looked it up and asked a nurse to confirm and she said with the drug you usually take it a minimum of 2 years?? Hell no! Not one "professional" warning you about the side effects or dangerous withdrawal processes other "patients" told me about. Just like you say it feels dehumanizing and like they were looking at objects. Objects, that are supposed to be classified, labeled, medicated and sorted back into the system as "normalized" and numb individuals. Not the circumstances, the pain and the underlying issues and roots should be addressed, no!, drugs should allow you to adapt and not question it! And no matter how abusive the childhood, it is now all on you because you are inherently broken and will be forever but you can take drugs to make it better! (This is not what I believe.) I saw a lady being taken to ECT as well and it was horrible to see. She said she had been to clinics so many times it was normal for her to go. She would get put on more meds and ECT and then return just to do it all over again and they made her believe that was necessary since her obsessive compulsive disorder was IN her, an inherent part of her being that determined her life to be like that. She couldn't actually even be there mentally due to all of those shocks. There was one real human experience with the staff though that actually made me feel more normal/seen/accepted and okay than any of those meetings with the head psych. which last about 2-5 minutes or the weekly case conferences or maybe even the therapy itself. One nurse there said to me: I don't think you have some severe mental illness or personality disorder or whatsoever, I think you just had a rough life/childhood until now. I talked to so many really strong people and could go on and on about their experiences in the authoritarian disciplinary institution which is the psychiatry. Their voices often don't get heard and that is why your videos and your activism is so important. Thank you so much Daniel! What you say often times reminds me a lot of what Michel Foucault wrote about in his studies of psychiatries, power and institutions in general. He describes the language of psychiatry as a monologue about madness in his study "Madness and Civilization" and discusses these issues from a historical, philosophical and sociological standpoint. I enjoyed your take on the same issue. This has been a waffle, but I just had to write some of this off of my chest because I too hold it in and don't get to talk about this all too much! Bye!
@Maaraujo7
2 жыл бұрын
You sharing is also very important, thank you so much for the reference as well!
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
I can really relate to what you've said. Thanks for enlightening more people on just how disgusting the system of psychiatry in general is.. God bless you
@Mikkimo
Жыл бұрын
My god. This makes me sick to my core. Thank you for sharing. The world needs to hear this.
@catherinebirch2399
Жыл бұрын
When I was 13 I was put in an adolescent unit for school phobia. That place was like a prison. No locked doors but the inmates had no rights. Forced druggings and staff searching through belongings whenever they felt like it. I felt as though I was being punished, not helped.
@theunpossiblefile
4 жыл бұрын
I voluntarily entered a NYC psych ward 13yrs ago. Everything got worse. After watching Soderbergh’s “Contagion” watch his “Unsane” for the psych ward backstory & what happens when hospitals find out you have good insurance. Long term patients & staff casually resort to finger pointing gaslighting. Anything can be made to fall under any DSM term of convenience. No prescriptions for a decade. 2 good books: Susanna Cahalan’s “The Great Pretender” & Edward Bullmore’s “The Inflamed Mind.”
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
"Anything can be made fall under any DSM term of convenience ".. this is so true.. the DSM is designed between psychiatrists and pharmaceutical companies to justify the psychiatrists jobs and keep the pharma industry in huge profits
@chaddy2409
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel, my experience on a psychiatric station in Germany is mostly similar. Their is the Chief Doctor whos basicly never there, then there is the 2 Chief Doctor that basicly manages the whole station and makes medical descions like upping dose. Then there are the normal doctors who manage different patients, make group meetings sometimes and also manage Medication. Then there are the psychotherapists who are very rare so not all people can speak to a therapist. The 2 Chief Doctor basicly decides who gets psychotherapy. Schizophrenic/psychotic persons dont get psychotherapy. I had “luck“ that they diagnosed me with generalized anxiety so i got 2 times a week psychotherapy. When i entered the clinic i was 18 and my therapist was a young woman, she was kinda attractive so i didnt want to really share my problems lol. But she had basicly too much to do so she couldnt care for everybody, but she tried hard. In my case everybody could keep their phone, go outside ( u only needed to say to the nurse that u go ) and smoke whenever u wanted except at appointments. But people still got really drugged up in there. I remember some young lady at the age of maybe 30 who got 6mg of Tavor every day. Btw im 19 now so the story is 1 and a half years ago.
@CharissaexplainsitallXD
3 жыл бұрын
I have been a therapist for 3 years and I never sent a client to a psych unit. I listened to my clients amd their experiences in a psych unit and it would be so dumb for me to send them to a place that traumatized them. Thank you for your honesty Daniel! As a therapist (LCSW) It is hard to know what really goes on in a psych unit outside of their clients experiences, so to hear it from a former provider saying the humiliation and shame that goes in with being in a psych unit brings a whole different perspective. I knew that the experiences that my clients went through were messed up, but I didn’t realize all of the things that goes on in a psych unit until this video. Thanks again!
@beatanowak3679
Жыл бұрын
Some people that work for in the psychiatric hospital use patients as therapists and complain that they are doing someone else's job and not getting paid for it. To patients that are suicidal.
@Twinkie989
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was misdiagnosed and had 48 hospitalizations. I had ECT- and I have never been the same again. I am dealing with a forensic psychiatrist now so they can never do that to me again. It all started off because I had an ED- from coming to terms with becoming a mother due to SA. It delayed my divorce over a decade.
@bryansmith7758
8 ай бұрын
oh wow, i saw your post from that jordan peterson video about divorce you recently commented on. we had a bit of a spat there. i'm really sorry, i had no idea you had ect. ect is barbaric. i've had ect done and i regret that it was done to me every single day. regardless i hope you do ok.
@Twinkie989
8 ай бұрын
@@bryansmith7758 It really is awful. I also regret it. They found damage to my brain and are claiming it was from chronic migraine... but eh. You know, having had ECT, how hard it is to believe that. I have 3 years I don't remember and the cognitive issues started right then. They even cut it off early because I ended up in a catatonic state.
@Twinkie989
8 ай бұрын
@@bryansmith7758 Incidentally, I finally saw all of my medical records and they were full of lies from stbx. He absolutely lied about everything and it was used as evidence for why I was sooooo sick and in need of ECT. Same guy attempted to call my psychiatrist, at the time, and claim I had made threats against myself to try to have me locked up so I couldn't divorce him- so in response to the other post- I have earned every single bit of compensation the courts award me because I was stuck in this psychiatric limbo for over a decade- largely due to his lies.
@bryansmith7758
8 ай бұрын
@@Twinkie989 yea, i believe you, because it's affected me as well. if i knew of a good solution i'd offer it. all the best twinkie. hope you have something in your life that is good.
@altycoggydeer
4 жыл бұрын
I was objectified by psychiatrist... It was horrible. She talked to me like I was nothing - just a bunch of symtoms. My family of origin did the same to me, but they objectified me sexually - so this session with a psychiatrist retraumatized me. I felt stabbed in my chest by this "doctor". I lost my ability to study at uni after I met her...
@rheinhartsilvento2576
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear this😪
@chickyshack1978
4 жыл бұрын
Eating disorders are about control. Taking away more control (locking them up, chemically controlling their moods, removing their privacy or control of their information) isn't really helpful. People always do their best. Giving them choices about what defines best and how to get there goes a lot farther.
@velocecarriola9214
2 жыл бұрын
My partner looked for help with invasive images, thoughts and sleeping problems due to being drugged and sexually abused by a group of men. Psychiatry's solution was 6 months of hospitalized ECT, 100+ rounds in total, drugged to a state of being a vegetable. The permanent damage done by these doctors is ignored 12 years later by all health professionals, dismissed endlessly, the abusive behavior by doctors is relentlessly justified by other health professionals. It is an endless cycle of abuse, abuse by the most trusted people in society.. Doctors. She has never committed a crime, she has never so much as hurt another living being, yet she is endlessly abused by a system developed to "help" people. I am her full-time carer, her life has been destroyed by doctors, taken by unprecedented force, this has also taken my life.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
She has been abused so horrifically by ( as you said) the people trusted to help her This is what happens in psychiatry She has been so unfortunate but is really lucky to have such a caring supportive partner.. God bless you. I dread to think where she would be without you.. probably not alive.. this is tremendous strain on you though to be witness to all this inhumane treatment. I hope you have good support yourself. You both are incredibly strong to survive this. Thankyou for creating more awareness, please keep speaking out about this.
@carlgauss1702
2 ай бұрын
Im deeply sorry man. This world is for the strong, a truth no one wants to swallow.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
Traumatised people enter the realm of psychiatry for help and are subsequently COMPLETELY Traumatised
@shawnleong3605
6 ай бұрын
FACTS
@riverdonoghue9992
2 жыл бұрын
My mother was misdiagnosed with bi polar and put on lithium which killed her. My mother had lost my 2 brothers when they were infants. Also she was married to a scumbag and a drunk for 23 years who terrorised us. But every time I tried to raise these issues she literally laughed at me. Chemical imbalance crap again. She put her on lithium which killed her. Before my mother married a psychopath she had a great job and was a beautiful woman who had a zest for life. She never had any mental health problems until the abuse in her marriage started.
@dmackler58
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. To me this (and a lot of other similar stories) calls into question the whole diagnosis of bipolar. I think it's mostly just a ridiculous diagnosis... I made a video on this, actually... Daniel
@JohnPaul-le4pf
4 жыл бұрын
It's all too believable, Daniel. It saddens me, but doesn't surprise me. As we all know by now, medical care in this country, with all due respect to the professionals who do good and great work within this system, is a disaster. My first impression is that these poor people, the imprisoned patients, are being punished for their unwillingness or inability to participate in the web of deceit and corruption we call reality.
@fire.smok3
Жыл бұрын
The psychiatric industry does not get enough criticism. Any kind of critical opinion toward it in society is immediately met with a barrage of accusations of being close minded, ignorant, backwards, "anti science" (that's the funniest thing, as if this field isn't bordering on being a pseudoscience)
@catlover-hq4dt
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being real.
@xaraha4884
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up, for being true, for reading the real as it is and for exposing crazy shit. Thank you for caring. Thank you for loving. Thank you for your bravery. Thank you for showing how it is done. ❤ You are the one person I've come across in this life that I find the most honourable, clear-sighted and loving. You stomp the ground and make waves that this world beyond needs. What a deep hypnosis of trauma looping over and over that humanity has kept itself in, and the patterns are still deeply engrained all across, but thanks to our time of technology and the Internet, another flow of information is available where very intelligent and caring individuals become sources of clear maps contributing to these patterns beginning to be broken up in pockets here there and everywhere, from individuals choosing to crack them open by shedding light on them and by not particpating in them anymore. Your intelligence and clear perception to map and to communicate to all exactly as it is makes the fog and scewed vision of what is actually going on literally lift. Clarity is in the room where you are at, Daniel, without a doubt. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
@Sanya0333
Жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart to hear this story, I just wish society finally came to the realization that we should help eachother and not ignore our problems and just swipe them under the rug. Mental health is so important and it's sad that there's so much stigma around it. Just because we cannot see someone is suffering doesn't mean they're not. If these problems are addressed on time and faced, it would be a million times easier to deal with them. Hopefully the future is brighter for people with mental health struggles as more and more people speak up on this topic.
@lana-fo8ve
4 жыл бұрын
my experience was horrible when I was in the hospital
@ArtDesigns4Creations
6 ай бұрын
"When you are born into this world you are given a ticket to the freak show, and when you're born in America you are given a front row seat. And we're all given notebooks." - George Carlin
@jrg305
4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about diet consultations in the hospital I worked while becoming a Dietitian. Not very helpful there. Learned it wasn't the place I should work. The healthcare system needs torn down and built up again. Oh and would love to hear more about your experience with eating disorders. I counsel them now. I don't like the treatment centers and they force a collaborative approach on the wrong premise to begin with for some of these patients. Like they require full meal completion even for binge eaters at calories set for their bodyweight, which is more food than they usually eat except when bingeing. Another patient was given an ED diagnosis I know is not true but so that the insurance covered. They are completely anti calories for all patients regardless of the patient's perspective even though calories are posted on all fast-food menus nowadays. Let's just bury their head in the sand and not talk about their anxiety around it (they just call it triggering, again, assumed for all patients). Oh and the anti exercise approach for all patients even ones without anorexia. Exercise is one of the biggest mental health things you can do from a physiology chemical perspective. I agree not a good idea for people with severe or moderate anorexia nervosa, but binge eaters and the orthorexia types I think they ought to be more flexible and less rigid.
@niveajones6400
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Basic nutrition can have a tremendous impact.
@aspiringcoconut6561
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel for these insightful videos.
@brotherofthesnake8833
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel : for giving a voice to this narcissistic clinical madness, it is quite evident that some of these people ( not all ) just harvest the misfortunes of others for a quick paycheck or the admiration of their peers
@daisy7066
4 жыл бұрын
Psychiatrists may have been at the top there, but they're on the lowest rung of the medical hierarchy, fact.
@kareendeveraux1847
2 жыл бұрын
Most of them are below the common drug dealer on the street, they swore an oath not to do harm, yet they lie, manipulate, gaslight und drug people up. They shouldn't be in the medical hierarchy at all. This is all a grim joke.
@shawnleong3605
6 ай бұрын
thus they need to cling on to whatever authority they have. They are truly monsters.
@ericschantz4275
4 жыл бұрын
Amen, Brother! Ive been a psychotherapist (LMHC) for over 15 years, much of that time spent in mental health agencies, mainly in New York State. My experience is much like yours: the Lunatics run the Asylum. An agency forced a nurse to give one of my clients a Risperidone injection (she protested against doing this, but was ordered to give it.) My client went into shock and died. Then, the staff threatened the nurse's job when she went off on the Program Manager for ordering the injection. The great, evil tragedy is that this is only ONE of the many experiences I've had. Although I think most therapists truly want to help others, I know way too many Borderline female therapists working their way up the management hierarchy, at turns sexing and betraying colleagues; Pathological Narcissist male therapists getting off (sometimes literally) on the female colleagues and clients, and the almost unbelievable power trips they had; Psychiatrists who thought they were God; and on, and on. Thank you for this video, Daniel!!
@astrod6977
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused as to what I should do since I'm entering college the upcoming semester for clinical psychology. I want to help people but I'm not sure how I will handle working in a mental hospital since they dont seem to have ethical methods of treatment. Do you have any advice for this?
@ericschantz4275
4 жыл бұрын
@@astrod6977 Hi. Thanks for the comment! I hope Daniel Mackler may have a comment for you, as well. Psychology is a noble calling. You won't have to stay in a hospital or clinical setting forever! Once you have your license, you can branch off into private practice if you wish, or focus on research psychology, perhaps stay in an academic setting. If this is your Calling, you will find your way. You can do great work, helping a lot of people. Just remember that you will not be alone in whatever critical judgments you wind up making about the field! There are many others who are of the same mind. I wish you all the best!
@sallyann985
Ай бұрын
Very weird for a LMHC to use the term "borderline" in a derogatory manner like this.
@cherylbelt4911
7 ай бұрын
I worked at a large outpatient nonprofit mental health clinic and it was the same, no hope given to the clients, all funds provided by government,, why would they be motivated to help their clients, need money to survive. I hated the daily morning staff meetings as they were also just as you described. I was forced out as I didn't fit in with their model, I stood up for the clients but most of the time kept my mouth shut.
@user-jg8ui6rs1y
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for describing the reality of the incompetency of most psychiatric "treatments"
@altycoggydeer
4 жыл бұрын
Sad, but it`s the same in Russia. We have a youtuber-psychiatrist at Russian KZitem (Евгения Стрелецкая, Eugenia Streletckaya), who has told the same horrible stories about her internship. Sadly, her video doesn`t have english subtitles, but maybe I`ll make them so people could know more about this sh*tshow that happens at psychiatric hospitals...
@rheinhartsilvento2576
4 жыл бұрын
Il you can, I'd be very interested to listen to her with subtitles... Thank you Captain Bellerofont!
@ЯфКДВНСКБНСДГДЙФВБЦНВВН
3 жыл бұрын
I understand Russian myself, so I'll take a look. I stayed in a psych ward in the United States, but know nothing about how the psychiatric hospitals are in Russia and the former Soviet Union. Thanks for the recommendation.
@matthewdietzen6708
Жыл бұрын
Jackals feeding on the emotionally wounded, and not just economically either, is what these people are.
@ifihadanocelot
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please keep speaking out, people might listen to you.
@cosmicallis7936
3 жыл бұрын
I was hospitalized in highschool twice (2003 and 2005) and all they wanted to do was drug us up as much as possible..we were mainly lab rabbits💊💊🐰🐰 The psychiatrist was litterally stuck in a 'no fucks given' mindset when it came to knowing anything personal about me and my problems. Only things he cared about were my file and what pills i had been on or haven't been on. Whn i was there, the kids swapped stories, diagnosises, pills, sometimes tried to hook up, or kill eachother or kill themselves..etc.. I had to stop my roommate from choking herself to death with her bedsheet..staff were totally oblivious..😒😲🤦🤦 i yelled at um about not doing their jobs and only one seemed genuinely concerned and remorseful (he was a sweetheart and too good for that place💚💚 God bless him🙏🙏🙏) the way that place was ran was a disgrace!!!smfh.. A common saying iv heard about 'the loony bin' from those who have bn there is "if ur not crazy when u go in, ur crazy when u come out" truest thing ever!!!lol
@renek.6434
Жыл бұрын
What you are explaining about your experience sounds to me pretty much like a mirror of the development that has been going on in society in a wider sense that we are all machines that need to be optimized to perform better.
@mariahconklin4150
2 жыл бұрын
No one gets help there, they are not treated like equals but children, the food is disgusting, the patients don’t actually have a mental illness but trauma. When I went to the mental hospital I used it as a vacation. Luckily I found a great worker to help me she was truly a god send. I almost forgot about her until I listened to this. I’ve had some truly amazing people in my life that have helped me on my journey who I love deeply. It’s very hard to find people like this. I’m not trying to find a good career path that works for me. I’d love to work with people again but not in the mental health field.
@mooncatandberyl5372
Жыл бұрын
thanks so much for being so truthful n honest.
@rorymurphy5904
2 жыл бұрын
so validating as a former hospital patient to hear. thank you.
@J-Santi
7 ай бұрын
My experience at a VA mental health facility I walked into a room where my fellow patients were watching a movie called the pledge with Jack Nicholson and there was very disturbing part of the film where one of the characters of the movie grabs a weapon and vividly shows the character shoot himself in the head. I remember being so shocked that a VA mental health facility would show a film that involves suicide was shown to patients who like myself have mental health problems.
@user-eh1vp3ev3c
2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing. Narrowly avoided being admitted here in Canada due to mental effects of an undiagnosed physical health deterioration. Initially when I was told I could be admitted to hospital I had thought it could be helpful to be monitored in case my physical health became critical... I was so wrong. My god I can't believe all of this is still happening, literal insane asylums out of horror films that I thought were a thing of the past. I think if people knew how horrific this is most would make better choices to avoid being sent there. I've certainly been "scared straight", whatever happens to me physically due to this disease it will be better than losing my mind in captivity.
@ForestTekkenVideos
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing amazing video I have been watching youtube for over 10 years and this is my favourite channel! I spent many years in therapy after my parents' divorce as an older child and young teen including in hospital psychiatric wards and I agree so much with you! The pharmaceutical industry is so twisted and evil
@daisy7066
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel can you do a vid on Infantilisation in psychotherapy & psychiatry please...please... I see you seem to have touched on it here by implication... I just had the bad experience of being treated like a child and having what little autonomy I had threatened by an incompetent unethical therapist, and I was in my fifties and educated. I think misogyny was a factor.
@dmackler58
4 жыл бұрын
I like the topic! Thanks for the idea. Greetings, Daniel
@confirmationbias6080
28 күн бұрын
I'am a doctor doing actually anaesthesia Residency. I always wanted to do psychiatry but i didn't get the opportunity to start a Residency in Psychiatry. I really don't feel like anaesthesia is the right thing for me. But In the same time the more I learn about Psychiatry, the more I feel like it's also not the right thing for me. I don't believe that Medication is the right way to treat patients. I don't think that someone's problem can be treated in dissociating it in a bunch of symptoms and treating every symptom Separately. I don't believe in psychiatric hospitals as a healthy environment where people can feel good about themselves. I think I myself will be depressed if I work in a psychiatric hospital. I already hate the Critical care Unit where The Patient is not seen as a whole, instead as a container of different Liquids that you need to control the viscosity, the fluidity, the balance and you can notice how the most of the time doctors will get impatient when they need to talk to the patient. I really feel like I have a problem with the Healthcare system in general and not with a certain field, this is why I'am sort of not motivated to change my speciality, thinking it will always be the same. But yeah since I wrote this Comment here , it means maybe I didn't loose Hope and I am searching for Someone who will show me the bright Side of The Path..
@kevinrobert4721
3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s too difficult and too big a task for one man as yourself to knock down the current system and reinstall a better one for people who do genuinely need help. I’ve been through the psychiatric system myself and i can say it fucked me up pretty damn good. All of my healing has been done away from my parents and without medication and there’s still plenty more to do. It’s has been 5 years since my two month hospital admittance. It’s too big a task for yourself to make a change in the system but just the fact that you stand apart from your peers and that you spoke honestly about what you witnessed there is what earns you my respect 🙏🏼
@dmackler58
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin. I am wishing you only the best. Daniel
@kevinrobert4721
3 жыл бұрын
@@dmackler58 thank you sir 🙏🏼
@kevinrobert4721
3 жыл бұрын
@@dmackler58 Hey Daniel. I’ve been watching some more of your videos and I am noticing in your recent videos that you are looking thin. I’m reminding you to take care of yourself too! It’s undeniable the work you’ve done throughout your life exploring the depths of human psychology and the human reaction to early childhood trauma. A lot of your exploration and documentation is helping me currently with my healing and the concepts that you unveil in your videos coincide with my own personal experience of trauma and schizophrenia. You are a light that must keep burning! It’s all too common that people who have a lot to give will take on the full responsibility and it’s true that they do tend to get lost in their giving. It’s a beautiful thing to give but remember that we are to love others as we love ourselves and to give to others as we give to ourselves. I made up that last part but it’s the same concept as the golden rule. Treat others as we wish to be treated. So treat yourself! I recommend a salmon fillet with a honey garlic or Dijon mustard and garlic sauce and some rice roasted veggies of your choice and maybe a salad and V8 to drink! You’ll find when you get to the grocery store, there’s plenty and you deserve your share. Cast iron pans are great.
@MrRyukage
4 жыл бұрын
I had dealt with a therapist that objectified me after I was diagnosed with Asperger's,he wanted me on Paxil and Zoloft because it help getting the "real me" out,I blew up at him once and the last time I saw him,I manipulated him by saying I was willing to "change" when their was nothing wrong with me. I compared to being like an ex gay program,which I'm gay. This happened 20 years ago.
@priscilam.9808
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! It is refreshing to hear your point of view on how messed up things are when it comes to mental health!
@denise4232
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel I think you should write a book, having had that experience, having visited different psychiatric hospitals around the world, and mostly having the courage of exposing what is not right, it could be an aid for this society, I think.... thank you for sharing your experiences 😉
@irenehernandez1715
3 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY!!!
@nancyamin9983
4 жыл бұрын
You speak the truth man!
@bailtree
Жыл бұрын
so refreshing to hear you speak about psychiatric hospitals honestly. I have been through the system as a patient and what you say is SO on point! thank you so much!
@cantwaittodietoday9924
4 жыл бұрын
yeah its degrading, humiliating, they robbed people of their dignity, not give them any choice, dont show them any basic human respect and strip them of all human rights. the nurses would shout at patients to strip their clothes before entering the ward because they want to check for wounds or scars. even if the patient feels embarrassed or shy they dont care. they would even grab the patients clothes and strip them. sometimes the doctor orders for the patients to be bathed by the nurses, it is disgusting. they get the patients to sit naked on chairs and just rinse with water after each patient. so poor hygiene and embarrassing to be naked and see others naked with you. you cant object because the nurses will shout. and they strip patient’s clothes. it was horrible not like a hospital at all but an army camp or prison camp for innocent people. the nurses are also disgusting and rude. I am triphophobic but they tied me to a disgusting chair with dried up vomit, they just outrightly ignored me when I asked to be shifted till I stood up on the chair and shouted out of the window for help. It is horrible. I never want to go there but my crazy mum always calls the ambulance to lock me up there whenever she feels like it. Also the A&E doctors will always find the most ridiculous of reasons/ lies/ provoke me to be upset so they can have some sort of excuse to lock me. There is just no freedom once psychiatry knows about us and no life. We are like prisoners of psychiatry who have done no crime yet dont even get a trial to be locked away. And everyone stupidly thinks they are helping us or we should be locked away and controlled by these psychiatric monsters.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
I hear you. This is the truth
@marydepugh9391
4 жыл бұрын
Had eating disorder when young with severe anorexia and it’s never about food. They also like to teach forgiveness for the abusers and my family only question was did you gain weight. Ever time I spoke to them. Simply didn’t get it.
@julia16jianski
4 жыл бұрын
I was an outpatient for bulimia in a psychiatric hospital. I was never hospitalized for my eating disorder and went there mainly for therapy once or twice a week. Thinking about my psychiatrist discussing the stuff we’ve talked about in therapy with the other staff frightens and disgusts me. Also something that really made me uncomfortable was how my psychiatrist’s boss would sometimes just barge in during my session. Not on accident, she wouldn’t knock either. She would just come in, call my psychiatrist out to speak with her and my psychiatrist would return after 5 or 10 minutes. Also something I found quite interesting - they discharged me after my suicide attempt. After a suicide attempt! When I was clearly struggling, in pain and probably needed help THE MOST, they discharged me! My psychiatrist kept seeing me regardless and they took me back in, but it was a whole process and if I wasn’t with such a great psychiatrist, I probably wouldn’t have been able to come back. After it happened I was so baffled at the logic. When my psychiatrist died, they didn’t tell me or my family for 3 WEEKS. I don’t care how chaotic it is for you, I, as her patient, have a right to know she passed away. No call, no email, nothing - discharged me, without telling me and didn’t even have the courtesy of giving me the middle finger before they did it. I have other questionable stories, like how when I told another psychiatrist I was abusing drugs, she just prescribed me new ones. So of course I start making this cocktail of prescription drugs and alcohol. When I wanted her to increase my dose so that I can take one pill instead of 4, I lied through my teeth, manipulated the shit out of that woman, how much they were helping me and how I’d stopped taking the other drugs, and she prescribed the higher dose - just like that, on our 3rd 20 minute session. And all I thought was “Damn, this should’ve been harder, I should try for another drug next time” I didn’t and I’m clean off everything right now, but fuck they hand out pills like it’s nothing.
@neitik1179
4 жыл бұрын
One problem in the domination of psychiatry in treating mental health problems is the over-emphasis of the psychiatry itself - there are psychiatric hospitals, psychiatric diagnoses etc. - all of them are from the field of medicine, so they are biologically and medicine-based. Everything leans on the psychiatry, the system demands psychiatric diagnoses so that you can get treatment (even when that means just psychotherapy). Why is it so? Why can't we change perspectives? But, who could dare to challenge the authority of a doctor? Maybe someone, who doesn't want the treatment to be so authoritarian-based, but more collaboration. There truly is a place for medical understanding, but it shouldn't be the only one dominating. Overall, interesting analysis. The human rights, or the rights of privacy and being an independent human being are things that I've been wondering too. There are reasons why someone's independence has to be restrained, but on the other hand, it shouldn't get too far. Hospital-environment easily makes patients objects, and I don't know whether the staff really even notices that. It becomes the "normal way of doing the work". But it prevents patients from being empowered themselves, to have a sense of agency and to work for their own healing. I think there is a bit a kind of self-fulfilling-prophecy, where people believe that "these patients can't take the agency themselves, they aren't capable of that", and then they are treated according to that belief, which in turn makes them more passive and more incapable. Some kind of hope of is missing, the belief that people can be capable of things that weren't believed they could be. Many say that staff working at a psychiatric hospital get cynical in the long term. I can understand that, but the only way to help people is to have hope for them.
@Jesus_Resurrection_and_Life
4 жыл бұрын
Neiti K it may not be helpful or hopeful to clients for fatalists and determinists to work in this field of healthcare.
@muirgirl
3 жыл бұрын
Psychiatric hospitals are human rat traps. Nellie Bly called it out first, and somehow we still haven't done anything to address this.
@jamesscott5145
4 жыл бұрын
I worked on the Behavioral Health Unit of a local hospital in MN and experienced everything that you mention. I was disgusted by the doctors' attitutudes toward treating the patients. and how they didn't seemed to consider them as human beings. The patients were often mocked and made fun of behind the desk and were all thought of as lost causes with no value. Many of the nursing staff were cruel and had very little empathy for the patients, with few exceptions. The adolescent unit was worse than the adult units, bc at least the adult units gave the patients choice about whether they wanted to participate in the programming I provided. The adolescents were threatened and punished and harrassed if they didn't participate or broke the rules, and they were all treated like they chose to behave the way they did and therefore deserved punishment, criticism, sarcasm, shame, humiliation, and even aggression from the staff. The units were unpleasant and not fun to be in and there was no joy to be had there at all. I really disliked it, but I agree that I'm glad to have had the experience.
@thisisbubblegumx
Ай бұрын
I was in and out of units from age 15 - 22 and every one of us were traumatized and abused and I never understood why, as kids, we were being treated as the problem instead of our abusers. They took depressed people and put them in a depressing place being subjected to more abuse. It was hell.
@MainelyLove
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to get this off your chest! This video will help so many out there who felt as if it was wrong to be treated like a human being, and were punished because they couldn't handle the crap this world dished out to them.
@jeffreymann7821
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always!
@bubby9307
3 жыл бұрын
being in a hospital on a psychiatric hold, they pushed so much medication on me that I didn't need. it sucked.
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato
4 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting. Thank you for surviving this and live to tell the story to the world.❤️
@myarkventures674
2 жыл бұрын
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@MusikGirl23
4 жыл бұрын
I have been in three different psychiatric wards, one as a 17 year old for depression, twice in a general one for extreme anorexia as an adult, and then at a good one for more moderate anorexia as an adult. The one where I had to go for my extreme anorexia was truly traumatizing. It was a locked general ward, so anyone and everyone was there with a maximum of 4 ED patients. And it was a teaching hospital. The objectification you talked about is real. I had to do my initial assessment in front of about 20 med students. I nearly lost my *****when I found out that they were going to be behind a double window. I insisted that if they had to observe then they had to be right there with me. It was truly awful. And then there was ‘feedback group’ where you were publicly criticized in front of all the ED staff and all the other ED patients in the combined inpatient/day program group program. Excuse me? Something called PHIA exists here in Canada for a reason! I nearly fainted every week from the stress of it. It was truly awful and from time to time three years on I still get nightmares about it.
@irenehernandez1715
3 жыл бұрын
You are so compassionate. Thank you for this. you knew whats right when you were an intern.. I wouldve sympathized with you.
@ShoutItFromTheHousetops
4 жыл бұрын
Just one more example of horrific what should be considered as “crimes against humanity.” So glad this video was created to expose this cruel treatment.
@cyc7lops
4 жыл бұрын
Can vouch that what you say is correct. Psychiatrists make their money writing prescriptions. What people really need are psychologists they can trust, who really care about them, and who are willing to be patient and spend time talking with them. They need talk therapy, not medication. Ins companies discourage talk therapy and push medication; I'm guessing that it's cheaper. Glad you mentioned that female relatives rape as well; you never hear that, and to many this is inconceivable. Eating disorders often reflect something(s) terrible happened to someone; psychotherapy (not drugs) needed to reveal the trauma and help patients heal. Another poster mentioned a psych clinic where affection was discouraged bc patients "don't know limits." The real problem is that many people who come from traumatizing home environments have never experienced genuine caring, and if a scrap of it comes their way, they are immediately and powerfully drawn to that person like a magnet. Instead of withholding emotional connection, this can be addressed by discussing the danger of this phenomenon with the patient at the beginning and educating them about why such a thing could happen, and establishing clear boundaries at the beginning and perhaps reminders throughout treatment. These people need love, caring, and guidance from someone who is competent and trustworthy; you will never be able to help them heal themselves by throwing ineffective and dangerous pills at them and keeping them at an emotional arm's length.
@saumitrsharma2816
3 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom.
@___________________1
Жыл бұрын
psychiatrists also make money through medical billing fraud IE every time someone get restrained and rendered not conscious for example with haldol or another sedative they have to BILL for it ! which is $$$
@Sophie-sp9hw
4 жыл бұрын
I really hope that your videos get more recognition. So many people are wilfully ignorant about this kind of thing, and won't admit how it is.
@labellefleur5874
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting your perspective forward like this. I think you are an invaluable resource and contributer to the collective consciousness! I’ve been watching your videos for a couple years now and find each one helpful and enlightening. Keep the videos coming! 🌺😊👌🏽
@MD....21
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit like "one flew over..
@JohnPaul-le4pf
4 жыл бұрын
I thought so, too. " ... one flew east, one flew west, one flew over the cuckoo's nest ..."
@csillafel8226
4 жыл бұрын
and there has been no improvement in the area of psychiatric wards since then (Cuckoo's Nest) . I had to go in for a couple weeks 10 years ago, and I couldn't what I experienced . It was like going back in time 40 years.
@justinebourke9449
Жыл бұрын
The film that was and is a major thorn in the side of psychiatry.. it is a masterpiece of truth... it highlighted electroshock therapy as the barbaric control tool that it is and created great stigma around it that they have been working hard to disprove ever since but they can't, no justification for it at all .
@saveyourwork
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another insightful video, it gives me a glimpse of how disjoint among mental health professionals, and re-affirms me that person-centred treatment/therapy could be much more powerful and healing to the patient than one-size-fits-all textbook-style treatment.
@muirgirl
3 жыл бұрын
Well, sort of... seems you've missed the main point here though. The problem he has identified is just how *hyper personalized* modern psychotherapeutic theory is... it objectifies and depersonalizes and also deprives the vital context of social reality. Fundamentally, humans are social animals. We are primates and need a community of sorts to feel healthy, and that need will simply be heightened during times of difficulty. So, yes a more personalized approach is needed, but also one that remembers how important support and love are to the fundamental needs of people (Maslows Hierarchy, etc)..
@dontalkt2meboutheros
2 ай бұрын
I remember my father having to get ECT after a breakdown. My siblings and I were children at the time. Even at that age, I found the thought of electrocution terrifying, even traumatising. I've had a mistrust of the whole psychiatric profession ever since.
@TheHappyDreamCtr
Жыл бұрын
I've heard some horror stories about psych wards. I had a helpful stay in one in Everett, WA in 1994. And then I went to a residential treatment center, CooperRiis, in Asheville, NC. I was very grateful for them. I'm doing better now. I'm a certified peer support specialist now but I'm not working in the field. Love your stuff, Daniel. Teska
@mademoisellechocolat
4 жыл бұрын
I really really appreciate this honesty and that you're sharing your experiences! I'm a first year psychology student and I feel so disconnected from what we learn, I find it even hypocritical sometimes and so... not humane? You're really shifting my perspective and pointing what feels off in what I learn
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