It’s actually insane to me how San Bernardino is gonna be the flagship us route for the new game. Literally no new equipment and it’s in the LA area again. There are other parts of the west coast to be covered. San Diego, Cascades, Capitol Corridor etc…
@jsteph4040
23 күн бұрын
Yeah you know it's completely lame when Matt's favorite thing about the route is driving a one-track route in the middle of a highway 🙄. A highway with barely any cars. And those cars are floating on the road.
@NS_0314
23 күн бұрын
Yeah I’m really tired of these west coast desert routes I live in the east in Ohio and up in the Cleveland area would be a cool setting for a route; loads of industry plus really cool scenery. That route would be NS, maybe an AC446CM, SD40, and Sd70ace plus layers from HSC (these engines are for DTG if they want to be lazy and reskin some and give us one new) Personally for this I would also want a Dash 9, SD70, SD60E, ET44, SD75M, but that’s not going to happen soon lol
@potatoman451
23 күн бұрын
@@NS_0314 issue with freight is no access to reference material
@user-bx6tl3dx9m
23 күн бұрын
Yeah and all the stock is reused.
@THE_IRON_HORSE
23 күн бұрын
This is so real, pacific surliner would've been way better then what's coming, kinda crazy how in the trailer there are light poles in the middle of the highway, barley an traffic, cars floating, hell they might even have the traffic on the wrong side of the road 😂
@justwilly6778
23 күн бұрын
EA can get away with this business model on games like FIFA and NHL - a studio with a niche product like Train Simulator can not
@BlueSky_fur
21 күн бұрын
well they very well can, thats why we're at tsw5. So much stuff could've just been updated instead of re-releasing over and over again.
@Maggus_
19 күн бұрын
@@BlueSky_fur But you dont have to pay for the new version? So where is the problem?
@BlueSky_fur
19 күн бұрын
@@Maggus_ the problem is that they keep releasing the same title with a minimal amount of changes and new DLC‘s instead of fixing core issues via Updates. I know it’s free, but their practices just seem very weird to me.
@___-000
17 күн бұрын
@@Maggus_ you do realise when they say "you can get the new version for free", it's only talking about the built in upgrades in the game itself. You aren't getting Any of the new content tho, that requires a purchase
@Maggus_
16 күн бұрын
@@___-000 No jokeeee, like imagine needing to pay for something that has put efford into it, it was always like that, even with tsc, play 30€ for the new routes in the bundle but you get the core free.... its like dtg is creating those routes with one click and thats it
@trainsimsociety
23 күн бұрын
How it's really starting to feel: Dovetail Games 🤝 EA Games
@yvplayz7813
20 күн бұрын
Fr i still only got Train sim world 2
@kerorogunso961
19 күн бұрын
my thoughts exactly. They are unfortunately starting to make this the FIFA or Madden of the train sim genre that releases the same game every year with a few additional features that really should have been an update
@ColdSid
18 күн бұрын
I legit just bought TSW 4 in March 🤦🏼♂️ it’s so annoying every 6 months there’s a new one
@SouthernRex
17 күн бұрын
@@ColdSid its free😂
@ColdSid
17 күн бұрын
@@SouthernRex good ! Cause I I’m not paying for another 😂
@jsteph4040
23 күн бұрын
Main problem with DTG is GREED. They have literally never released one route that wasnt broken and had bugs on launch. Not one! They dont release editing tools because they're greedy and dont want to lose out on revenue. Even though, the community does better things with their game than the developers can. They just rush out routes, barely fix them, and then rush out the next one for more money. Then when it comes to American routes, they are just lazy, plain and simple. One loco, usually repurposed, copied assets, no AI traffic, framerate issues, the same consists, the same runs just with different TOD, lack of people at stations, all for usually the price of a normal AA title.
@CadanHartleyElliott
23 күн бұрын
If Sega (famous for Sonic the Hedgehog) took over the TSW franchise from DTG and actually gave us what we wanted, things would be a lot better.
@scootvirtual5609
20 күн бұрын
I bet the editor will never be released in a "full working state". DTG will always put limitations on it.
@ToonamiX-nv5tb
23 күн бұрын
For US content DT seems to only focus on East and West routes only, the South has some pretty amazing routes too. 'Sunset limited' & more
@potatoman451
23 күн бұрын
Slow routes with few services would just get people complaining it's slow and does not have many services so they are back to square 1 lol
@TheUnflushedToilet
23 күн бұрын
@@potatoman451 What about Sand Patch Grade?
@Cliff_Tumbley
22 күн бұрын
Only doing fast routes with lots of services and mountains will exclude the vast majority of US rail.
@kleenexbox974
22 күн бұрын
the midwest has the BNSF/Metra race track in chicago too
@russ99a
20 күн бұрын
And if you want more exciting, Denver or Winter Park to Glenwood Springs, on the California Zephyr.
@bryshannbryant6773
23 күн бұрын
Another issue is the lack of rolling stock. They added formation designer, which in my mind, is made for freight train players (since we get tired of the cut/paste formations DTG gives us). So I’m praying that they show the American trains some love.
@AZsolo__
23 күн бұрын
Litteraly just dropped 4 and allready announcing 5
@strodey123
23 күн бұрын
It was a year ago tbf, but they have been copy and paste games since TSW2
@trainsimplay4780
22 күн бұрын
But the core upgrade is free, so I wonder what's the problem with that? You don't have to pay a penny to play tsw5
@nswtrains3153
21 күн бұрын
@@trainsimplay4780 It's probably going to be crappy or only going to be for a certain amount of time
@vincentstuer
19 күн бұрын
@@nswtrains3153correct only for 30 days after release
@SquawkGamingYT
16 күн бұрын
2 years ago in 2022 we were still playing 2. It’s obvious that they’re making it a yearly release. Although then I find it better to name it after the year it releases, like most games with yearly or bi-yearly releases.
@danielbradley88
23 күн бұрын
The fact that the last Canadian route was in Tsw never to be done again it’s honestly not worth it
@BluGames
23 күн бұрын
Ouch. I didnt realize that
@markvogel5872
20 күн бұрын
@@danielbradley88 I'm building the kingston sub on train sim classic because I was tired of no Canadian routes.
@kerorogunso961
19 күн бұрын
which is very unfortunate. Im a BNSF foamer but Canadian railways are almost equally as amazing. Sad that such amazing routes rarely get attention. Guess there is still Trainz, they got a bunch of Canadian stuff.
@HuskieNationTV
23 күн бұрын
Normally don't comment on videos like this but this is exactly how I am feeling. Gave up playing TSW and only play TS Classic now only because of the over 40 different US packs with different railroads. Its been 2 years since TSW gave us a US Freight route...what our entire railroad system is based on....and the only historic option is Clinchfield. Want to be able to hop in to a session and run Conrail, Chessie, BN, Great Northern, etc. Ik that's a bit overzealous but just really frustrated with the options for US rail sim
@nialli2000
23 күн бұрын
Great point about freight routes. When I play TSW I do Europe for passenger routes but always US for freight routes. US freight is another level and deserve way more routes and DLC
@UP9390
21 күн бұрын
You should look into Run8 if you want a more realistic Train Simulator for North American Operations, it even has multiplayer!
@stephenwallace7288
21 күн бұрын
Agreed... US of A is massive country with plenty of good places to base routes on... but the lack of US freight is more than disappointing...
@mattjohnson7369
20 күн бұрын
This isn't negative, its giving an honest critique on something you've supported and want to support. My 2 cents. I don't think Dovetail has the bandwidth/resources to cover multiple routes across continents, especially with their yearly content release. We need more 3rd party devs, this is the best result, unfortunately we're only just seeing them emerge.
@Mezott
22 күн бұрын
I said on Steam, Dovetails could take it the example from SCS Software, make DLC like Euro Truck and American Truck. but they just sell the whole game again with a different number.
@Robert.S459
20 күн бұрын
My point entirely. They could learn a lot from SCS. I have both titles and all DLC's which offer better value for money at under £15.00 on average. We are now moving towards version 1.51 for both titles, that equates to 20 major updates to the game since I got on board, all bringing huge improvements, all free of charge. Oh, and I missed one major piece of functionality, in none of the sims ATS or ETS2 do you have to redownload your entire collection of DLC's. That lack of functionality really sucks in TSW, it is tough on DTG's customer base.
@fokuz2025
19 күн бұрын
Exactly they just want the money
@mabot2459
23 күн бұрын
I'll stick to SimRail, and you should to 👍
@curtiskoch7725
23 күн бұрын
I appreciate you being candid about being a Dovetail Ambassador for their games. I stopped playing TSW after Train Sim World 2. It's the same game just repackaged with a few new things. The other thing that annoys me is that they have a severe lack of equipment and option of US routes. DTG just sticks to a certain area. Extremely neglected for US TSW fans. At this point games such as Railroader, Run8, Train Sim Classic and even Open Rails have my attention more than TSW. One final thing, their game only focuses on how it simply looks with the graphics. That's how their marketing is tailored. There is so much potential for this series and it just seems like they keep missing the mark.
@mattval6293
23 күн бұрын
They dropped the ball again. No deltic engine in uk. And no amtrak gensis for u guys.
@timothybrown4258
23 күн бұрын
Bro you nailed it, we (americans) are neglected all we get is the same trains and same areas over and over as extensions and barely any upgrades but foreign gets upgrades new routes and locos every 4 to 6 weeks its tiring
@crackerbarrel6965
23 күн бұрын
Agreed. It’s marketing. It should be TSW Update 5, not TSW5. If they made a major change such as entirely new graphics due to a software engine shift like Unreal 5 then yes. But this ain’t it.
@tompsu9536
23 күн бұрын
The fact that Antelope Valley and San Bernardino are very similar, shouldn't happen when creating a new game, I think a new game should have actually something "new". Also as an european the flixtrain vectron, is basically just a repaint version of the current vectron and it will come in the deluxe is just unacceptable. Even tho the flixtrain would have been cool to have maybe as an update
@potatoman451
23 күн бұрын
The flixtrain has a completely different interior and there are exterior differences. It's also a brand new coach set. That's not a reskin
@tompsu9536
20 күн бұрын
@@potatoman451 I never said it wasn’t. The thing is that you add another vectron as a deluxe edition loco two years in a row and those talbot coaches are very similar to ic and railjet coaches. Of course there are small differences but it’s not something completely new. I would be more excited for it if there wasn’t already a vectron.
@dns.113
23 күн бұрын
There are some great train routes in Mexico that are being ignored, the Mexico City Metro, Guadalajara's train, Chepe Express Train, Mayan Train and all of the freight lines that run on the pacific side of the country
@kerorogunso961
19 күн бұрын
I have never thought about this before, I would love to see some Ferromex routes in a train sim, that would be amazing!
@bryshannbryant6773
23 күн бұрын
I’m not complaining about the routes, but the lack of US locos in all of the games baffles me. After the ES44C4, we got nothing else for freight. I’m hoping for some more tier 4 stuff, plus some MAC’s, AC44C6M, Dash 9, etc Hoping High Iron will deliver.
@ops7917
23 күн бұрын
Licensing issues. If they can't secure them or it costs too much, that's that.
@theminnesotarailfan1623
23 күн бұрын
I think licensing is more for railroads then the actual locos for that matter
@davinhuffaker4670
23 күн бұрын
Why be so harsh about licensing? It's just a game. If they don't want to see people making TSW crash compilations on KZitem, DTG should do something about that
@THE_IRON_HORSE
23 күн бұрын
License has nothing to do with locomotive in specific, you can ways add a GE locomotive for example and just don't add the GE locos to the engine, you need to get a License from the railroad which DTG has all the big 4 Class 1 railroads
@ops7917
22 күн бұрын
@@THE_IRON_HORSE Don't believe you since I've heard Dovetail talking about this back with TSW3.
@CrazyPierre89
22 күн бұрын
I live in germany and while the german content sounds and looks exiting to me the idea of redownloading the entire and ever-growing library every year is not. Especially if the features they always proudly present could have been an update (It felt so cringeworthy when they praised the addition of the undo-button last year). But I was positively surprised about the free starter pack. I think it's a step in the right direction. I'm glad you shared your honest thoughts about the topic.
@newqlar
23 күн бұрын
The Train Sim World series is fast becoming “The Train Sim that could - but decided not to…” Very sad and disappointing.
@realonthecircuit
23 күн бұрын
The US routes feel more poorly made as well, and less detailed than the European ones in regards ambience and just general environment
@markh3195
22 күн бұрын
I'm a Brit and I'm sad for you guys. I love American content too, especially the freight which is unique. I want more US routes and say that on the forums.
@blackking7512
22 күн бұрын
I don't understand why we just don't have one game that they keep constantly updating. A new game to basically be the same game every year is pointless. U had a huge roadmap for TSW 4 just for most of it to be part of a new game.
@UP9390
21 күн бұрын
Dovetail has some audacity to call their games "simulators". They will never have the realism that Run8 has. Actual railroaders have tried giving Dovetail technical advice regarding how to make running the trains more realistic for North American railroading, but Dovetail essentially tell them to go kick rocks. Run8 does not get nowhere near enough attention by people that look for simulators to play.
@thrillvilled111
23 күн бұрын
Blu, gonna be honest and say this could have been a huge update for the game. Looks the same, feels the same and acts the same 😆
@user-bx6tl3dx9m
23 күн бұрын
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@Pickendi
23 күн бұрын
I only play TSW for the US Freight routes and the new TSW 5 just looks meh. As an Australian I would LOVE to see some Australian routes but I'll keep on dreaming for that. One day I'll try Run 8 .. till then, more US freight routes!
@Mr_Lamont
23 күн бұрын
I just started to get into Run 8. A lot to learn but what it offers is miles beyond TSW. Might not be as pretty but is not about the looks. Try it sooner than later. If you like trains it’s the way to go.
@GamersDelight4541
19 күн бұрын
@@Mr_Lamont The U.S, Canada and Australia all have long freight trains. Being from the U.S, I would be happy with any of the 3 countries for freight. I am not a big passenger train guy. I just want some decent long freight routes. It's more like dovetail Passenger simulator than train sim world.
@kerorogunso961
19 күн бұрын
Trainz has a ton of Australian content. It is less sim more game but can still be played very much like a sim. Highly recommend if you want some good Aussie content!
@Kadesh86
23 күн бұрын
I'm afraid of the overall quality of the routes. Everything feels rushed and very basic modelled. Compare it to a great airport in MSFS, like Aerosoft Brussels, any tsw route just lacks realism... the buildings are all caroonish and basic. And it gets boring quick because everything is so predictable. Even the "hard" scenarios are so easy and boring.
@megabitegaming9655
23 күн бұрын
I feel that when I went from tsw3 to 4 I got excited but saying that I found only little visual differences but going to another one already there is so many routes they could do instead of doing new games all the time
@zetaopress2389
22 күн бұрын
I'm still buying the deluxe, but i agree with you 100% i am also american born and raised and would love to see more US content. But sadly from what i've seen a lot of commuter/passenger railroads in the US usually decline licensing when it comes to a request to have their equipment in a simulator game. I assume it's cause they fear people can learn to operate their equipment and from there they can possibly Hijack in person causing havoc/possible deaths.
@armanchermakyan9924
7 күн бұрын
My biggest issue is the overall performance issue with the previous Train Sim World series. This may be due to the game engine they're always relying on. If they manage to upgrade the game engine, I will happily buy there products.
@adr14n_mtz17
23 күн бұрын
I was more hoping for a better route on the US content side like a another freight route instead of a another passenger route because for me doing a passenger service going down a steep hill is easy doing a passenger service but doing a freight service is hard but easy for me so I like more challenging stuff.
@ACanadianDoge
22 күн бұрын
All I would love to see is a Genesis main focused route for TSW. Or something much older with a Streamliner during the 50-60s era
@regularbenzenering416
22 күн бұрын
Whilst I enjoyed many routes of train sim world, I saw trailer for 5 and immediately think that there is a lack of innovation and pushing outside the box to warrant new titles. I'm not some huge hater or something of dovetail, they have things to do too, money to make and bills to pay, I respect that. Nonetheless, the routes are from the same three countries and look identical to what we had before (freight and high speed). I also really think the best thing they could do optimisation wise is try to remove the scenery-loading induced stutter which really decreases enjoyment. That would warrant working on and pricing for a new game, but if they keep the same engine/programming issues to continue to persist, I can't really justify buying new routes because they'll have more stuff in it with the same memory issues.
@strodey123
23 күн бұрын
The fact that the steam page for TSW5 already has 104 DLCs, averaging around £20 each shows they are just money grabbing, rather than actively trying to improve each version of the game.
@Robert.S459
20 күн бұрын
I only picked up TSW in April this year and my spend to date is over £400.00. No doubt this will go up, I have made no decision regarding TSW5 yet, WCML interests me, but will it end up like ECML, just a section of track.
@alanhaf2489
11 күн бұрын
Those of use who have been playing since 2017 CSX Heavy Haul, I think we are not excited because we have seen the possibilities and then have seen the reality of what comes out. TSW2 was going in such a hopeful direction but then it became re-packaging the same engine each year and putting a new number on it, does not impress now.
@BluGames
11 күн бұрын
I think u are right. This is true
@peterpulciani
23 күн бұрын
How you were saying as an American with the lack of American routes you feel left out I can relate to that being a Canadian. Only 1 Canadian route and it was on freight. I mostly like driving American subway style routes like LIRR since it's the closest thing to subways here where I'm from.
@Br-bs1xe
23 күн бұрын
As a German, I also feel neglected by DTG. I think DTG's main market is UK, the last route we got was Rosenheim Salzburg and that was also 8 months ago. The 101 is also a garbage DLC. And neither Germany nor the US got steam locomotives. I would be very happy about a DM&IR Yellowstone or 844. A German steam locomotive would also be cool, but I also really like the US stuff.
@bazooka4095
23 күн бұрын
Yeah the DTG's main market is the UK, they just forgot about the rest of the world. Just think there are so many nations in the world and they only have licenses from three countries in the world, I think this is statistically impossible, I'm from Italy, they never take in consideration to make a route in italy, but i said "ok, we will never have italy in TS/TSW, but maybe the rest of the Europe?" But they only make routes in the UK or Germany, we have like two routes in Switzerland (always RhB, when SBB network is so cool), France we have the same high speed route since TS and Austria they started making something. The only cool thing in TSW5 for me is the Netherlands route, finally a new country, something new, and I hope they didn't make just one route in Netherlands and then forget about this country
@Br-bs1xe
22 күн бұрын
@@bazooka4095 A route in Tyrol would be very cool or something in Spain, the Czech Republic, Luxembourg, Canada, Greece or Sweden. For TS there are a few routes in Italy, nothing from DTG, but I think RSSLO has something in Italy. But it's just very limited to the UK at the moment. Some of the German routes were simply patched badly, for example Bremen Oldenburg, Rapid Tranist or Aschaffenburg Germünden are almost no longer playable
@Showtime6192009
20 күн бұрын
Of course the main interest is in the UK it's a UK based company lol.
@SteveOwnzzz
18 күн бұрын
Agree with part of what you’re saying but the new 101 is outstanding tbh
@Br-bs1xe
18 күн бұрын
@@SteveOwnzzz The Fiat SIG bogies (Fiat Y 0270 S) look horrible to my eye (Eurofima wagon), the others except for the control wagon don't look particularly good either. Car 10 is missing, in reality the train driver's compartment is usually in there where you set the FIS, that should be included at €36 and they promise the highest level of realism in TSW. That's a no go for me, considering that the train driver comes into mode, the vehicle package is very unrealistic again. The car addresses don't match. NBÜ doesn't work. When I was on a 642 recently the Mesa 23 looked different
@Toms-v8s
23 күн бұрын
I wish they would add saluda grade 😢 They've been lacking on American maps
@cameronmcelwee5465
17 сағат бұрын
Given that individual DLC releases are £29.99 throughout the year, I get quite excited when they announce a brand new game for £39.99 with 3 full routes packaged in.
@roguefamily7630
23 күн бұрын
I wish they would add union station in Chicago
@josepho.8039
23 күн бұрын
Would love to see some metra equipment! Screaming F40phs
@roguefamily7630
23 күн бұрын
@@josepho.8039 yeah
@roguefamily7630
23 күн бұрын
@@josepho.8039 I see f40ph everyday
@chevellerr
22 күн бұрын
With the UEVR mod even Train Sim 4 runs almost 100% native in it. There was no reason for them not to add it to the normal game.
@potatoman451
21 күн бұрын
It would have caused a ton of problems or break the game and y'all would complain like crazy. Remember tsw is really big now and the core has been changed a lot. Adding vr on top of that is going to cause more problems
@av8trkevin60
17 күн бұрын
Excellent points. I completely agree that the lack of VR in main core game makes no sense in 2024. I also agree that the VR Quest game has 'something' of interest but it does not look at the level of PC game. Have never understood the lack of interest in VR in train games on PC.
@TruBluLew23
23 күн бұрын
This video is exactly how I, and apparently a lot of the comment section, are feeling. Glad it was said. Dovetail needs to fix their business model if they want their product to grow. To touch on the American routes thing, as someone who lives in the Northeast, I wish we had an expanded LIRR/Metro North. We have some other Metro North routes in TS Classic. But I wholeheartedly agree that I can’t get as excited when every route is for Europe. Not that I’m not happy for my European rail fans because I’m glad one subsection is getting the content they want and deserve. I just wish the distribution was a bit more even.
@stuartthurstan
7 күн бұрын
As a Brit, I am interested in trains and routes from all over the world. I just wish there were some trains and routes from all over the world instead of the usual three or four countries!
@ryanmorrison3699
16 күн бұрын
Here’s my two cents (for what it’s worth lol)… I don’t really care that much about additions in features personally. I think the concept of TSW is wonderful on its face. I get to enjoy a beautiful, ASMR experience of cruising down the rails of the world in a bunch of different locomotives, each with their own unique responsibilities to manage. The one thing I expect of this game is simply that it works and runs smoothly. And ever since TSW 2, this game has been a slow, choppy, glitchy, immersion-breaking mess. I ran TSW 2020 on my same Acer Nitro 4 1/2 years ago and it ran flawlessly. Now, I feel like I need a NASA computer to run it. I don’t want to drop 3 G’s on a super computer. DTG needs to focus almost exclusively on optimizing the performance of the game engine before any of this other shi… stuff. And on a secondary note, this game and its additions are WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. Without getting too political, it’s no secret that inflation is an issue in the world right now. So I get the price increases to some extent, but that doesn’t make my original statement any less valid. I’m not buying DLCs without them being north of 50% off at the very least. So while I appreciate the free upgrade to the new game, I’m essentially getting the same flawed, sloppy game I already had but with new aesthetics. So honestly, I don’t see the point in further investing in DTG and their partners’ products if the game isn’t going to perform any better (and in some cases, potentially worse) on my PC. So I guess in conclusion, if DT somehow reads this comment, I’m going to withhold personally funding them until they focus less on pumping out dozens of glitchy, poor quality content and more on making this game run better. Because I think I can have a reasonable expectation that my fairly well-equipped gaming laptop is able to run their game.
@docholliday1811
23 күн бұрын
I have always trusted your opinions and reasons for what you believe. Especially with the games you play and showcase. Thank you for everything.
@metalslinger
15 күн бұрын
I would like an historic route, like the B&O, Conrail, Seaboard Airline, Atlantic Coast Line, and new maps like Waycross, GA. I would also like a classical EMD GP9.
@AverageA321
23 күн бұрын
I am not paying for the same game over and over again bruh. Sticking with TSW4
@Liam-ux2zg
14 күн бұрын
I had hoped they would add the Tokaido Shinkansen line with its final stop in Hakata Station, with like 3 trains, the N700S, Doctor Yellow and the 0系. Because in my opinion the Tokaido Shinkansen is THE highspeed train line with its scenic route.
@manu_le_maboul
9 күн бұрын
It's even worse for us French people, we got one short route with its one really poorly made TGV and that was on train sim world 2. People's been making their own french routes and equipments on train simulator classic since forever because there's nothing for us anywhere otherwise.
@samstranghorwitz
23 күн бұрын
Metra would be fire. Mbta is the only thing that’s keeps me excited.
@KRGraphicsCG
20 күн бұрын
I wish they would add the orange and red lines since I pass through Ruggles quite often during the Amtrak Acela Providence routes. I was impressed with the Commuter Rail routes
@bearhydegaming6114
16 күн бұрын
What I want is a good American steam locomotive, man. The game needs more steam in general in my opinion. I also firmly agree that these yearly releases are unnecessary and annoying, especially when there’s no real big updates within the game.
@TheBakedPug2
23 күн бұрын
I'm from socal, so the san Bernardino line is pretty cool to me. i still see your point though, more content like Cajon pass would be cool, like Donner pass would be awsome
@chenhejiang7381
23 күн бұрын
They always mess up US routes sighh. It just feels like an add on to the antelope valley line
@Samyyy_95c
23 күн бұрын
Les lignes US sont lassantes
@markvogel5872
23 күн бұрын
@@Samyyy_95cyou wouldn't say that if they did a proper Chicago map. The lines this company decides to use are boring maybe but there are amazing routes they could do if they weren't lazy.
@goldenstateaviation2861
23 күн бұрын
@@Samyyy_95cEuropean ahhh comment.
@QuantumPlatypus42
23 күн бұрын
@@markvogel5872 Keep in mind most people don't care about routes other than their home area, hence they find other countries boring, me personally, I don't care about any non european routes.
@potatoman451
23 күн бұрын
@@markvogel5872issue is no metra license
@nigel6446
23 күн бұрын
I completely agree l am absolutely fed up and sick of having to install all my content every year on a painfully slow internet that will take over a week or two to continually install everything l own..
@Mrcastro127
23 күн бұрын
Only problem I have with train Sim world at this point is the lack and and half done us content and routes don't get me wrong I enjoyed the UK routes and the German routes but lately since train Sim world 2 I've been seeing a lot of lack of us content I understand a lot of Europeaners find the US content boring but you can't speak for everybody I'm American one of my favorite routes is Great Western Express but long story short I really hope dovetail give the game some balance again because I really do enjoy these games but if they keep bring out lazy and half ass content I think I might just give up on the serious 🤷
@VRnamek
23 күн бұрын
I don't see anyone buying a Quest either for Train Sim World. I do see them buying a Quest for Batman Arkham Shadow, Iron-Man,Assassin's Creed Nexus, Asgard's Wrath 2, Resident Evil 4, Medal of Honor... and then realizing also minor games like Train Sim World are available. None of these are available on PC in VR anyway...
@Shipwright1918
23 күн бұрын
Got out of it in TSW3 and haven't looked back. Aside from all the other issues, there just isn't enough steam and other vintage power/rolling stock to keep my interest. Railroader and Rolling Line. Now we're talkin'.
@KerboOnYT
23 күн бұрын
I bought CSX Heavy Haul thinking they were being honest about the simulation aspect and regretted it. They suckered me once and never again. I've checked out some of the versions since then when they were free on GamePass or Epic and they still don't have things that were supposed to be in the first version, mainly an editor. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@Chucyriggs
16 күн бұрын
i'm excited for the San Bernardino line. i used to catch that line in San Bernardino ride the full line transfer to the Antelope valley line and get off at Newhall to go to Six Flags back when i lived in CA i think its so cool i can completely recreate the ride
@scott5055
17 күн бұрын
Personally I would like to see a diesel branch on the LIRR. A lot of people have been asking for it. NJT diesels , bright line , Amtrak p42s and a few routs to go with it. The surfliner would have been a lot better
@Lucrativecris
23 күн бұрын
Pacific Surfliner from San Luis Obispo to San Diego in one map would me dope
@theyamg8121
20 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to buy the same game just with minor updates and new routes which should just be a DLC 🔥 (I just want conducator mode and the Metrolink route) TSW needs to listen to our voices more man, TSW is the new FIFA.
@funkyviper3981
21 күн бұрын
It's good to see you being honest about this game. I just found out about it from watching your video but it was hard to be excited and that was before you started getting into it. Hell, I'm still playing TSW2. I even have 3 & 4. I'll eventually get around to playing them. I hate seeing companies release games that are barely an improvement over the one that came before it. I know EA has been doing it for years but they are a much bigger and well known company that can get away with it even though they anger gamers as well. DTG shouldn't be trying to copy that. I can't see it working long term for them.
@class8007
23 күн бұрын
Annoying that so many people just keep mindlessly buying and therefore validating dovetail's BS at this point. I picked up TSW4 the other week (haven't touched the franchise since TSW2020), and there was so much potential and improvement there. I almost liked it. But the fact that all the core issues still remained was just sad and I ended up refunding it.
@SerenModz21
18 күн бұрын
i agree with u on the point that it could just be a major update. its starting to get frustrating that we have to keep paying for a whole new game, when we already have it. base game dlc could be free, while others can be dlc as normal. i also sometimes feel that with the approach they are going for makes it feel that older dlc get abandonded and get up having bugs that could affect or completely ruin them. the starter pack is a start of them improving this but i still think its an unnecessary business model that dovetail is following.
@damderrick
23 күн бұрын
I feel the same way. They have left the U.S fans out of dry. Against my better judgement I bought TSW4, after owning 3. It's the same crap over and over. I'm not buying anymore until they update their crappy game engine. I'll stick with Run8
@vern1961
19 күн бұрын
Good shout. I'm reasonably happy with what's coming and ordered Deluxe anyway, but even the UK is a bit short changed by only having the WCML South go from Euston to Milton Keynes. In TSC it goes all the way to Birmingham so they could at least have managed Rugby. They really seem to have thrown the towel in on US freight but with routes like FRCE and the new Alco's coming out for TSC, the reason given of Class 1 railroads not offering any more access doesn't quite cut it. Maybe they decided TSW just can't compete with Run 8 and threw the towel in. They have still left steam (traction) in an appalling state, worse physics than early MSTS. Not a word about save game, whether more slots (there's going to be over 70 routes soon) or more reliability (not losing objective data when you save after jumping to a new train). No one from DTG responding to pings on the forum about it either. Highlight for me will be the announced Just Trains WCML Shap set in the 1980's with a tap changer AC loco. That's going to be the real gem of TSW5.
@alessandroandreuccetti-sx5zg
23 күн бұрын
at this point it is "Train Sim World: UK/Germany and a bit of USA". I'm italian, and form my point of view I think that at this point I'm a bit tired by driving on other countries routes. I mean they are awesome and I'm happy that they are adding the Class 390, but... I mean, at this point I know I'm loosing my trust on dovetail. Idk that's what i think. Maybe all this backlash Dovetail will notice, but i doubt it...
@KRGraphicsCG
20 күн бұрын
I recently purchased train Sim World 4 on Xbox One a few months ago and while I like it, I wish it had a HUGE update for new trains and routes (bought the special edition for $30). On PC, I still have Train Sim World Classic that I have not played in forever and I might just get TSW4 on PC, just for the better graphics and fluid gameplay. On a side note, your videos kinda inspired my reason to purchase the game... The Amtrak Acela routes are pretty neat, since they take place in my hometown of Boston. I should request the other MBTA lines such as red and orange lines. If it has mod support, I would model the trains myself
@davidn.6448
16 күн бұрын
If they continue like this we'll get TSW10 before GTA 6
@BluGames
15 күн бұрын
Lol
@JustDoRaces
23 күн бұрын
Man multiplayer would be awesome. Imagine joining a server with 20 players going up and down the line. It would be great and so much fun and would most likely increase their audience as more players would be intrigued by this and would want to play. I also think they need to add a few more London Uk routes as majority of its fan base come from the Uk and would love to see it. Hopefully in the future we will see this
@Vamdua
23 күн бұрын
we don't need a tsw 5 ...or 4 ....or 3 .....or 2 if they had just stuck to the system of having a decent core simulation engine (e.g. tsc) and made dlcs around it instead of making them like a new game each time then it wouldn't be that bad and you wouldn't have all these compatibility issues. but d(f)tg games have developed themselves into a corner where it's like this now and there's no turning back until they start it all over again from the ground up (tsw: a new era- anyone lol). and nothing will change because the vast majority of people just want dlcs of a route/train that runs 5 miles near them instead of what we really need: a better simulation. and also they think d(f)tg is a family member of theirs and will slavishly defend them no matter what they put out or what they do; they could literally release a empty base map with one piece of track -nothing else- and they'd jump through mental hoops as to why it's good and you're just a hater. go for tsc if you want a proper simulator, because at this point this is just lever up and down sim 2024.
@misthunter210
23 күн бұрын
I can never get excited about train sim world. Don’t care anything about driving flat faced engines in the greater New York area. I would love to have some awesome longer distance Amtrak routes out side of metro corridors. A Denver to Glenwood Springs route would be amazing. Would be able to throw in the genesis and could even do the F40. It’s really a damn shame we don’t have amtraks flagship for the last 25 years or so in the game at this point. Also would like to see some older eras like clinchfield. I’ve been sticking to ts classic because of this
@jsteph4040
23 күн бұрын
TSW has Clinchfield, but it's pretty much a snoozefest. Although the locos are pretty dope.
@Trainmaster-nw1en
20 күн бұрын
I would settled for an Amtrak P42 which could be layered on any American route also it could also introduce the super-liner and viewliner coaches to the game . And adding Santa Fe 3751 or 2926 has an American steam dlc could bring more players back. I’m pretty sure the steam crews would be delightful to help dovetails. (Now I wait for someone to debunk my idea)
@ops7917
23 күн бұрын
For DTG simps like The British Ace KZitemr, this sim game will be perfect as he's already on record stating he hates the US railroad system and locos. The English are very secular like that and so is DTG. They will always put English content ahead of anything else.
@ElmtreeLine
18 күн бұрын
As a British person, I can say that Antelope Valley was boring as hell to drive with ultra minimal content. San Bernardino Line also feels like a lazy follow on. I don't see why they don't go for something with some jazz, like Florida's Brightline!
@jeron1776
20 күн бұрын
Dit you ever see that they are use the same signals, track, and for an example the German BR 193 is al ready out. They bring out the Flixtrain br 193 and the regal br 193 by DB. You pay the same over and over again, they call it TSW5/6/7/8... They do it with the DB EMU and DMU's the cab's an bougies are the same ;-)
@aaronb.9707
18 күн бұрын
The thing is the wcml is a great idea for tsw5 but to add the 390 as an add on and it feels like it's quite a short run it should've ran to Birmingham. Also the Canadian line was good but there's hardly any life on the life and it should of been from Niagara - Toronto union so to me I rarely play that route before that but I do feel for you guys in America I think the brightline would be pretty cool to play to be honest!
@louradman7166
9 күн бұрын
Remember, Microsoft train simulator started the whole thing. so try open rails it’s fantastic
@jonathanschoen807
15 күн бұрын
So I get why people are not excited for San Bernardino. Personally, though, I grew up riding Metrolink and even worked for the company for a few years. SB Line in particular has a lot of great memories of visiting my friends in Redlands. So while I get that people unfamiliar with the area are disappointed, I happen to be in the niche of people that really connect with this one. Altogether a fair opinion in this video. I agree 100% on your opinions on the route hopping.
@wonderboy8800
5 күн бұрын
I know I am in the minority here but why not any new freight routes? I has becom only passenger lines but there are some of us that really like freight lines!!
@BluGames
5 күн бұрын
Im with ya
@simflyer_rick
23 күн бұрын
DTG lost me last year with their introduction of TSW 4. I'm done with buying newer versions when what they should have been fixing the issues, problems and routes instead of bringing put the same old problems and calling it Version X + 1. The name is Tucker, NOT Sucker!
@trainsimplay4780
22 күн бұрын
You don't have to buy TSW 5. It's a free core upgrade.
@lucarioaustin13
22 күн бұрын
if you want the new routes, you do so. At that point it is kinda pointeless to install the free trial that it pretty much is @trainsimplay4780
@garrisonsan
23 күн бұрын
DTG lost me when they quietly dropped multiplayer and route editing off the roadmap and then more or less pretended those were never on the list to begin with. This release doesnt win me back, guess I'll keep playing Run8 exclusively 🤷🏻♂️
@florentdufay2540
23 күн бұрын
im totally agree with you. France is the best country for trains in the world and no route no trains no content just a false tgv dlc totally wrong route is boring no kvb simulation nothing when you see the content of trains and just germany and middle age UK rails road are in this game... its not a train game its a germany uk game of trains. Italy spain france potugal all are most modern in trains and develloped than uk and germany so i dont understand this type of games with a title train sim world probably theirs developpers never visit others countries. the east usa coast you have plenty of routes to do in this game there is some beautiful japenese route too i dont understand this egocentric strategy of making a uk germany train game and say its WORLD TRAIN SIM game... love your contents on your channel stay safe. Bye :)
@potatoman451
23 күн бұрын
Issue is licensing
@florentdufay2540
23 күн бұрын
@@potatoman451 iam french and i have une of my family membre work at sncf and we talked about that some Time ago. And for him its just ego of german dev
@Brotherdot
23 күн бұрын
I am ONLY exited because I get to update from TSW2 to version 5 for free. I don't really care for the new routes, or at least not enough to the point that I want to pay full price for them yet.
@dutchvanderlinde154
20 күн бұрын
I agree fully with what you stated as an American from the northeast I don't see myself buying this. I'll stick with TSC. I wish we would have a DTG US Office. When we got LIRR 2.0 as that is close to home, I was disappointed with it all they really did was slap in a new train and a new branch and that's it they never added anything new like the 3rd track or diesel trains.
@coffeeguy6673
22 күн бұрын
I would prefer it if they added VR and extended routes, and more expert versions of current trains.
@Showtime6192009
20 күн бұрын
Think there is a small section of ppl that want VR tbh i dont see many ppl asking for VR. Im from thr uk so im happy but i do love German High Speed And U.S 3rd Rail Content. I think they chose that us route so that ppl can use the route hopping option, agsin thry prop chose the boston route so that ya can link the two with the route hopping plus this mew boston route takes you in s completely different direction to the 1st one.
@strasburgrailfan90
23 күн бұрын
I completely agree it’s just an $80 update with more micro transactions
@acelakid94
17 күн бұрын
I was really hoping they would extend the rush hour NEC route. It’s only 45 mins of gameplay going from Boston to Providence via Amtrak. I wish they would push it to Connecticut. The conductor mode sounds interesting, but it doesn’t affect operating the train. (There’s no one telling you when to proceed from a station stop) it’s basically a mini conductor simulator. Overall kind of disappointing, especially considering this a “whole new game”.
@nialli2000
23 күн бұрын
I should add I'm UK based so I have a tonne of relatable content (heck I even have two routes that some of my best friends drive IRL) but i still thinknits crazy we don't have nore diverse routes. Defo way more US needed but I'd like more interesting stuff such as Indian rail or intercontinental lines such as the Eurostar/TGV/AVE links
@kerorogunso961
19 күн бұрын
I definitely agree with what was said here. As sad as it is, TSW is unfortunately turning more towards the sports games M.O. when it comes to new releases and content updates. Make a new game every year that is for all intents and purposes the exact same game as the last installment but with a graphical touch up and a few features that should have been an update. I just hope this trend will entice more people to turn their heads towards other projects like Run 8 so they get more funding and can become and even more worthy competitor so the genre is spiced up.
@schizowallflower
23 күн бұрын
Route hopping brings me back to the time when I first played GTA Vice City on PS2 in 2005 where to get to the next island via connected highway it had a loading screen to load the new area. Good times.
@Drakes_transit
22 күн бұрын
Can the Midwest get some love? Chicago is a major hub for passenger and freight. Southshore line. Metra Amtrak and the cta L and tons of bnsf up and Norfolk tracks also.
@potatoman451
21 күн бұрын
One of the main issues is lack of licenses. Metra is just hard to work with. Without them you would miss out on a lot of traffic
@SimonWitt
20 күн бұрын
Pro: it's a free upgrade for anyone with an older TSWA, obviously routes will cost extra. So what I'm planning on doing is upgrade to TSW 5, wait for the Just Trains Carlisle route and get that and stock up on the WCML when it's on sale. Cons: we're still being constrained by 8th gen consoles and it's basically the same core game since TSW 2 being re-released yet again as a 'new game'.
@knownothing5518
16 күн бұрын
I think a lot of the lack of US route development is due to little passenger service outside of metro systems. Passenger trains might be played more. That being said, there is passenger rail and still a plethora of passenger-centric routes and heritage railways you could put in.
@jturner0901
16 күн бұрын
idk, sounds like the perfect excuse to add US Steam, in the 40s and 50s there were plenty of mainline passenger services around nationwide
@knownothing5518
7 күн бұрын
@@jturner0901 true!
@Electricfox
16 күн бұрын
Yeah, I can understand the disappointment on the lack of routes for TSW in the US, but on the up side, there is Run8, Railroader, Railroads Online, and Century of Steam in the pipeline for US outline stock and routes, fictional and non-fictional. Not the same, obviously, but it's a start. The UK scene is kind of reliant on TSW and TSC, there's no dedicated UK train sim like Run8, or Simrail to give the European counterpart. I guess it's because DTG are a UK based company, so it's easier for them to do UK and Western Europe based routes than US routes, unless they were to expand to include a US office, which I don't think they will.
@markvogel5872
23 күн бұрын
DTG....I am so done with them. They make the same trash content over and over again and steal our money. They never fix issues or do anything new or exciting. Honestly the best thing is train sim classic on deep sale on steam. Also the user made content from random fans is so much better quality than the professionally made content they put out. I'll wait till August of 2028 for Train Sim World 10. I bought tsw4 on sale for $10. It's so broken I can't even log on to play it.
@SolaraFr
23 күн бұрын
TSW5 is actually free however you won’t get these routes
@LC25av
23 күн бұрын
@@SolaraFr ive been hearing this all around yt how is tsw 5 free?
@LachlanKellett
21 күн бұрын
@@LC25av you can upgrade and get some of the new features, move you're already owned routes from say tsw3/4 over to tsw5 but without getting any of the tsw5 base dlc's ( WCML, Frankfurt - Fulda and San Bernidino ) but only for the first 30 days
@KurtVW
21 күн бұрын
Based on the numbering, in 2028 you're gonna get TSW9, not 10 😉
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