Let's not forget that ANYTHING that has a scent should go in the bear can as well!! Tooth paste, Deo, scented soaps or lotions etc. Bears will go after those as well.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Important reminder. Thanks for sharing 👍
@jadeddragon4254
Жыл бұрын
Everything has scent 😊
@padrickscar
Жыл бұрын
Also just don't bring scented deodorant, soap, or lotion into the backcountry
@elderlord5164
Жыл бұрын
Who would take deodorant camping with them? Hahahahahahaha!
@rockytopwrangler2069
Жыл бұрын
@@elderlord5164 .. You would be surprised ,, also colognes and perfumes ..
@YankeeWoodcraft
Жыл бұрын
Such a well thought video Jeff. I've come to a lot of the same conclusions. Even whatever space they take up besides being offset by the fact that they can be used for storage is that the only space lost is the actual thickness of the can itself, not the cubic air space in them, so really, it isn't that much space that's lost. Another plus is that they're great of packing sensitive items that might be prone to being crushed and work as a hard case and for keeping hygiene products like toothpaste that attract wildlife.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate it! Great tips! I totally agree. At first, the canister was the big unwieldy object I had to wrestle with. Now, i don’t give it a second thought. Everything just fits 😎
@shandasherpa4496
Жыл бұрын
We tested the first bear canisters in Yosemite in 1979. I did my backpacking before they were available, but avoided heavily-used areas and rarely had bear problems.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! Glad that you have avoided bear problems 👍
@johnswanson3741
2 ай бұрын
All through Boundary Waters and up into Ontario canoeing....Never had a bear problem. Always sleep under a large tarp, never in a tent, and always keep my food and gear close to me under the tarp. Most people really should just stay home where they feel safe!
@foghornleghorn4173
2 ай бұрын
@@johnswanson3741Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m going to BWCA in September for the fist time. Good to hear you didn’t have bear problems
@rkatrails
2 ай бұрын
I grew up camping in Yosemite Valley with my parents and siblings. At that time they still had the dump where trash from dumpsters was unloaded. We used to call it the "bear pit" because people used to drive up and park their cars to watch the bears rummage through the garbage! This was long before they had bear boxes and it was common, believe it or not, to keep your food in the tent or car! Only once did a bear get into the tent of my aunt and uncle who were camping at the site next to ours. My uncle threw a box at the bear and it ran off. I can't believe it used to be like that in Yosemite!
@wwgbert
Жыл бұрын
Good idea about the reflective tape, I like that one. Bears are taught by their mothers people mean food, meaning we have food almost always. Once a bear is "trained" like this it is not likely going to stop the hunt for easy food. Bears that you can scare away from just your voice are most likely not used to humans, like the one you encountered returned multiple times is highly likely could attack if hungry enough. I spent years as a guide trying to keep people calm in bear country because there is some predictable habits but once they eat human food it is much more unpredictable. Be safe out there.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights! Seems like you’re right. We now have generations of bears that have learned to seek out people food 😮
@YaGottaBeKidding
2 ай бұрын
Some black bears in the Great Smoky Mountain National Park have figured out how to open some bear canisters, and it is thought that they are teaching one another. No kidding. The park now requires _all_ food and smellies to be hung, even if it is in a cannister. Per the official website: "Bear canisters are not required nor recommended in the backcountry. If you choose to carry a bear canister, it must be placed in your pack and hung in the cable system to comply with the park requirement." My cannister specifically states to _not_ hang it, as it may not take the shock of a drop. They say it's designed to be clawed and bitten, but not dropped. What to do, what to do.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Good to know! I’m constantly amazed by bears. There’s a famous bear in the Adirondacks that figured out how to open BearVault canisters. Personally, I have a UDAP No-Fed-Bear canister and Backpackers Cache. Been good so far, but who knows? Regarding Great Smoky Mountain, thankfully they set up cables for a secure hang. It’s difficult to get it right when utilizing trees. Thanks for sharing the info 😄
@thepepperboi
Ай бұрын
Wow black bears sure are sharp
@farstrider79
17 күн бұрын
Sure, but last time I was in that area, most campsites had established cable systems that were really easy to use. It's not that bad.
@MikeTheBurnerTurner
Жыл бұрын
Great PSA, I'm sure this will help quite a few new backpackers. Especially in a world where most videos are focused on the gram counting you mentioned. I know we always follow the triangle rule as well. Where you make a triangle between your campsite (upwind), your bathroom area, and your bear box/cooking area. Really helps reducing the risk of them coming through your camp to knock around a canister they can't get into.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it. That’s an excellent rule to follow. I am going to have to commit that to memory and apply it on the next trip. Stay safe! 😊
@MGA_83
Жыл бұрын
Camping in the boundary waters of Minnesota, I've always hung a kevlar bear bag, suspended between 2 trees. I'd say anything is better than nothing, but a bear canister would be a good idea as well, as it can float if it ever falls into a body of water; whereas a bear bag probably won't.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
It sounds to me that you hang your bag the right way. That takes some skill! The bear canisters that I have are not watertight, so water will get in if submerged. However, I think it would float if there are some sealed backpacking meals or Ziploc bags inside. Thanks for the feedback! 😎
@lorens7837
Жыл бұрын
All of this makes so much sense to me. Thanks for posting.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Im glad you enjoyed it 😊
@jimhamilton8997
Жыл бұрын
GREAT video! After 15 yrs of backpacking experience in the back country, I have come to all the same conclusions you present here. Interesting how little help retailers like REI and mfr’s of backpacks offer on the subject. I use a BV500 now when bear protection is called for, I think the real benefit is the protection from small critters, who are MUCH more likely to eat and run at your expense!! Thanks for the video, I was happy to hit the subscribe button!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I’m really glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. The smaller critters can definitely be problem. Especially in frequently used campsites where they come to expect and rely on campers as their primary food source.
@Jeffmell-ot2yz
Жыл бұрын
My uncle and cousin and my dad and I were on the first day of a multiday canoe trip in the boundary waters in 1976. We hung our food in a bag. Right after my cousin and I had gotten in the tent a black bear came into camp. Nothing we did scared the bear, banging pans, shouting, etc. The bear started climbing trees until it found the one with the bag. It climbed above the branch and tried to break off the limb with its foot. When that failed it started to come back down. At that time, we decided that maybe we should retreat to the lake in our canoes. We stayed out in the lake for about 45 minutes until we heard the next campsite down the lake barking and making noise. When we got back into camp, we found that the bear had chewed the branch in half and ate all of our food. Lucky for us it was the first night of the trip, so we just paddled out in the morning, and we did not have to go hungry of several days. It did cut the trip short by 3 days. I can also answer the question do bears shit in the woods. The answer is no, they shit in the middle of your campsite.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s quite an experience! Amazing how bold, determined and smart that bear was. So, sorry to hear that trip was cut short. Glad everyone stayed safe and have a story to tell, though 😄
@melchurch3019
Жыл бұрын
I've always used Ursacs for hiking in Michigan and the AT. The only animal that got into it was a red squirrel. I suspect bears just never happened upon the bag in all these trips. This video definitely makes me consider buying a bear cannister for future trips. Thanks.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I don’t have any personal experience to share regarding Ursak, but I have heard about bears getting in them. Might be worth considering the alternatives.
@phillipp1399
Жыл бұрын
Lots of pics of damaged ursacks online. When they don’t get into them the bear will smash and destroy the contents making them unusable… plastic packaging and food contents turned into its own special granola. Bear doesn’t get the treat, but neither do you so your trip can be ended. I’m in Colorado and see people posting about it every summer, especially on the CT. I’ll use one where bears aren’t expected but are possible but usually I carry a bearikade.
@daven.7685
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Straight forward and to the point. I am hoping that some brainiac comes up with a canister solution that is lighter and collapses when food/trash/smellables volume decreases.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Yes, a more packable and lighter solution would be great. It would definitely take some brains! Bears are so crazy powerful and determined.
@chriseidam7319
Жыл бұрын
That collapsing idea is genius. You might want to contact one of the companies that makes the carbon fiber canisters that can be customized.
@matwinner9708
Жыл бұрын
Maybe ask the company who built that cheap Titanic submarine. It can collapse real good
@bobv7753
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your views & reasons for bear canister use. As you said their a useful deterrent for all animals looking for a snack. Once you get use to them it just becomes part of your kit & routine. Thanks for sharing! Especially your bear experiences. Makes me feel all the better about canister use.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! That’s what I’ve found, too. I don’t give it a second thought when packing. The canister always fits and I think the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Stay safe!
@nancytrekker
5 ай бұрын
Jeff, thanks for the informative video. As a solo female hiker, your bear hang experiences give me a different perspective on food storage in the backcountry. I used to think that as long as I hung my food, the bears wouldn't get it. I think that is generally the case where I've hiked in Central Canada, Mexico and Belize. However, I'm hiking in Montana this summer and will consider picking a bear canister up after watching this video. Also subscribing to your channel. ✅️
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Of course, where you hike is a big factor to consider. Bears are simply not a problem in some parts of the world. However, here in the Southeast United States, a bear encounter is always a possibility. Honestly, the only reason I got a bear canister at first was because it was a requirement for the area where I was backpacking. Then I was hooked by the convenience and reliability of using one. Thanks for sharing your comments. Stay safe out there! 😄🥾
@Amy-gi7jo
Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to see this post. Bear canisters are definitely a nuisance to carry and maybe not totally foolproof, but I think they are the best alternative to help a bear avoid becoming a “nuisance” that is then hunted and killed as a result of inexperienced or careless campers and hikers with ultralight tunnel vision.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! Well said 👍
@davidrussell8795
Жыл бұрын
I like that expression of yours!"Ultra light tunnel vision "! Mine is:dum as a donut hole!
@thefayyazis
2 ай бұрын
Why do they make them round? Wouldn't they at least be a little easier to carry if they were rectangular?
@bugnut4432
Ай бұрын
@@thefayyazisthey make them round because it's a much stronger design, it's harder for bears to grip them or apply significant pressure
@peteransel2715
6 күн бұрын
Totally agree with all you've said, and I'm very happy with my Bear Vault. Another cool option an experienced camper taught me was a net bag sunk in a river. Bears can't smell through water.
@jfowler
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I haven’t heard that one before 😀
@tomsitzman3952
Жыл бұрын
In my many years in the back country, mostly in canoe areas we tried to cook a hot meal late in the afternoon long way from our intended camp spot. I have never had to use a bear canister but They seems to be much better solution that hanging your food. Smart bears soon learn to shake the rope tied to the trunk of the tree. Over the years I have found Ravins and racons a bigger problem and a lot smarter than bears. My worst problem are bears that come into camp and acted like the family dog and just hung around. When that happens, that tells me people have been hand feeding the bears and it is time to get the Hell out of the area.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I totally agree! Being joined by a bear in camp, that would probably be a good time to leave!
@nedanother9382
Жыл бұрын
I don't know who wins that battle - you just mentioned the 3 smartest pests in the world.
@dmbeaster
Ай бұрын
I have had mama bears send babies up the tree to bite the rope. Hanging never works against determined bears. Treeline environments in the Sierras also lack large trees, and bears will go there to get camper food.
@rameylewis7730
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I've used a bear vault the past few years with success. As a fish/game officer I've been in many camps where the bear got the goodies from the bag that was hung in the tree.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your comments! We can all benefit from your years of experience 👍
@Mike-vd2qt
Жыл бұрын
Black bear intelligence and retrieving food hangs is the main reason many NFS areas require a canister now. The Bear Vault is much better than Garcia Machine rented by the park service. I met some folks on trail in the Sierras and a guy told me how a black bear approached during lunch break and grabbed a pack. I've had to camp across three states in grizzly country with food hanging and it makes for light sleeping even with bear spray. So many people in certain areas today, I carry bear spray even in black bear areas because they are too accustomed to hikers.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I know, they are so smart! Thanks for sharing your experiences. Sharing the outdoors with these amazing animals is unavoidable making it so important to be educated and prepared.
@jasonmcochran
Жыл бұрын
I have come to the same conclusion that you have; always use a bear can. Your video does a great job of explaining why. Also, spot on with the pro's and con's.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it. Stay safe 👍
@davesing
3 ай бұрын
Excellent post. IMHO the bulk of a bear can is the only real drawback. Your advice about using the can to pack other items as one's food supply dwindles through the trip is brilliant and becomes a feature instead of a drawback. Would like to add a thought - once you pack non-food items in your can never re-pack these items outside of the can. These items will become saturated with food scent. Additionally pack your food trash in a scent-free bag before packing in the can so you don't possibly contaminate fresh food. The can starts out as a bulky drag but becomes more useful as the days pass. Thanks again for this great post!
@jfowler
3 ай бұрын
Great points! It’s definitely important to be hyper-aware of items that carry a scent and to handle them carefully. It’s so easy to forget and contaminate all of your gear. Thanks so much for sharing! 😄
@chriseidam7319
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I can't believe I never thought of putting reflective tape on my Bear Vault. Here are my two tips: 1) Use light, weak stretch cordage or thread to tie a bear bell around the canister to alert you to the presence of a bear messing with it. It must be weak enough to break, lest a bear use it as a carry handle. 2) I recommend the Seek Outside Divide 79L backpack. It fits the largest Bear Vault inside, horizontally, yet it is ultralight. It also has many other features. The strap buckles are clever and handy. It is only slightly heavier than my Z-Packs Arc Haul, but it is more comfortable and it is rated to carry up to 200 lbs.! It carries 45 lbs. better than the Arc Haul carries 35 lbs. It is awesome for winter hikes because of its volume, too. The construction is so rugged that I suspect it could manage the Triple Crown and still have miles of hiking left in it.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the tips! I will have to check out that pack. I have been considering the Arc Haul 60L, but it sounds like it is too compact for most bear canisters.
@chriseidam7319
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler I would not buy the Arc haul again. It squeaks. It squeaks and it squeaks and it squeaks. The V-strap Z-Packs offers that's supposed to be able to mount a canister to the top of the pack? It won't work because the straps are so narrow and frail that they slip loose at the same time that the contents in your backpack settle. So the canister keeps falling off to the side. If you put the canister inside the pack it has to go vertically, which doesn't feel right against your back. And it puts a lot of strain on the seams. The most-frustrating thing about the Arc Haul is that those carbon rods that are supposed to make the arc for venting your back we're not designed properly. They're secured at the top, the bottom and the middle, and when you have the pack loaded to its maximum carry, instead of arcing the rods collapse into an S-shape and the pack sits flat against your back. The arcing rods are supposed to be the big, innovative advantage. How could Z-Packs screw it up and leave it screwed up for years for that kind of money? It's telling that most of the major-name KZitem personalities for backpacking that once highly recommend it no longer use the Arc Haul. I heard Dan Becker say it's his favorite pack, but he is the only one I've seen and give it acclaim in years. If Z-Packs had the carbon rods anchored at the top, the bottom and at two or three places in between, that collapse wouldn't happen. Z-Packs has known about the problem for years. I don't know if it's fixed it on the newer ones. I haven't heard anything about it being fixed. The last problem is that the load lifters need adjustment every ten or so miles because the straps are too narrow and thus slip for lack of sufficient friction. Those are a lot of flaws for the $425 I spent on the thing. There's a guy with a KZitem channel that I think is called ShastaBubba. He lives out West in the mountain states. He did a really good review on the Divide pack. That's why I bought it. The only flaw I found is that the frame height velcro adjusting strap has sharp corners at the end of that strap that curl up and rub against my back if I'm only wearing a thin shirt. It's not a major thing, and it's something I could fix by cutting and rounding the corners and then restitching the end of the strap. I sent Seek Outside an email to advise them on it. Maybe most people wouldn't even notice it. Another easy fix would be to throw some duct tape over the ends of the strap. Considering how many faults I've found in the various backpacks I've owned, that was the most minor annoyance of any of them. I doubt I will ever buy another pack. Or need to. Happy trails.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the review! Good stuff to know when considering a pretty expensive pack like the Arc Haul. I will take a serious look at the Divide pack. Thanks again 👍
@sharingmatters
Жыл бұрын
Great tips based on your precious experience. Thank you for your time & effort!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
That’s so kind of you! Thank you. I’m really glad that you find the information helpful. Stay safe!
@DatDamnLlama
Ай бұрын
Regular in the BWCA. We always double bag our food in airtight bags packed into our bear bag. We hang every time and have never had a problem in 20+ years. We also avoid the heavily used routes which probably helps.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like your methods are working well 👍
@nope2075
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I’ve lived in Texas all my life, never really thought of bears. Not until my parents bought land in the mountains of Colorado. We go up there to camp every yr. Thats when I had to think of bears. I didn’t know anything. This is helpful.
@jfowler
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. It’s amazing how the bear population has really grown. 😮
@meltdownman1
Жыл бұрын
Add a personal alarm with the canister. They pull on the cord and the alarm goes off. Some have a flashing light to allow you to locate the canister as it is rolled down the hill by the bear.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I didn’t know about that product. Finding the canister the next morning can be a challenge even when it hasn’t been moved 😄
@brianc1651
2 ай бұрын
I started with a BearVault. Hated it, so hung my food for years and even used an Ursack. Never had any problems, but a lot of terrible hangs. Seems like all branches are too low or too high where I camp. Picked up 2 different sized ones for the Adirondacks High peaks. Ironically, while finishing the 46, I only camped out in the backcountry once where I needed it. For short single night trips since then and canoe camping, I am always bringing it. I often use it car camping too. Still hate the weight and space. Surprised that no one has figured out how to make one just as strong, but at half the weight.
@Yowzoe
2 ай бұрын
I’ve carried a bear canister for decades in wilderness, and the biggest pain is fitting it in my pack. I’m just about to head off on a motocamping trip and just got an Ursack, the big one, and some odor-proof bags. Because I won’t be in wilderness areas, I think it will be allowed everywhere. I haven’t hung a bag from a tree in decades, not looking forward to that part, but definitely looking forward to not caring a big can on a motorcycle.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! I had some terrible hangs, too. No problems but the bear population has increased considerably since then. The convenience of the canister is probably the biggest plus for me. In recent years we’ve had more visits from small critters including raccoons and mice. I like how the canister works well against them, too. Yeah, there has to be a way to make them less heavy. Wild Ideas Bearikade is probably the lightest option but I don’t like the bulky shape and sharp corners. For now I'll stick with my trusty UDAP No-Fed-Bear. It’s the perfect size for my lightweight packs and holds plenty for a long weekend. Stay safe out there!
@plants4thewin
26 күн бұрын
Great tips. Thank you. I went with the canister, glad I did. I think that and the sleep system are worth the weight.
@jfowler
24 күн бұрын
I agree. Glad it was helpful! ☺️
@wanderfwd
Жыл бұрын
Never thought about using the container as a chair, good idea!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! One of my buddies even attached a disc he cut from sleeping pad foam to make it a little more comfortable 😄
@horustwohawks
Жыл бұрын
I would concern over getting food smell on it considering most would think to sit on it while cooking. I would keep the canister (and/or bear bag AND my motorcycle!) away and upwind from the kitchen. Just a thought.
@henrypierce8010
6 ай бұрын
I am just getting back into backpacking this year and the PNW is definitely bear country. This video reaffirms my decision to go with a bear canister and I get size my bag appropriately.
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
That’s great! I would love to get back out there. I’m so glad the video helped. Thanks for sharing your comments 😄
@1jotun136
Жыл бұрын
I always sprinkle cayenne powder on my food container. A snoot of that and most critters leave it alone.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
My buddy brings a bottle of cayenne along, too 🌶️
@Findraen
Жыл бұрын
Something else to remember when using a bear canister is to put everything in an odor-proof bag, such as an Opsak (regular ziploc bags don't count as they're not odor-proof). All food, used cooking items, and scented items should go in the bag, which goes inside the bear canister. This helps keeps bears from being attracted to your camp. If they can't smell it, they're less likely to be interested.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Makes a lot of sense (scents? 😂) I have to start doing that 👍
@j01150126
Жыл бұрын
I constant carry food on me and eat snacks in my tent at night like nuts and meat Chomps. Do you guys just not eat snacks at night? Do you burn the wrappers?
@franny5295
Жыл бұрын
@@j01150126I think if you keep doing that you're gonna be one of those people we read about that got eaten in his own tent.
@dananorth895
Жыл бұрын
@@j01150126Might as well smear yourself with pork/chicken gravy and chocolate chips
@j01150126
Жыл бұрын
@@franny5295 I did it all through the Marines in the jungles of the Philippines but not bears there lol
@johnetches9741
2 ай бұрын
Another point that others may have mentioned, is that the cannister negates the need to bring ropes and pulleys to hang a bag, and hence, offsets the weight a bit more.
@coachhannah2403
Жыл бұрын
I canister. But I have never had a hung bag bothered in 5 decades of hanging, in problem bear areas.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, it sounds like you have a good system working for you 👍
@trig33kgirl
Ай бұрын
My bear hangs are basically bear pinatas. I also use a bear can instead. Good idea on bright stickers.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
I hear ya! I’m so glad you found the tip useful 😄
@CampfireKodiak
2 ай бұрын
I like the yellow canisters better so they don't get so hot in the sun. Electric fences work well too. I will often put one around my tent in dense Brown Bear country and another around my food or meat cache if I am hunting.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Great points! Thanks for sharing your experience 😃
@panhandlejake6200
5 ай бұрын
Definitely concur. Nearly all of my backpacking is in bear country so canisters are an automatic for any trip. The weight is the biggest dislike - I can make due with the size.
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
Based on your username it sounds like you might be in the southeast, too. Yeah, I agree. It’s the weight, but that’s a small sacrifice compared to the safety and convenience. Stay safe out there 😄
@normanmallory2055
Жыл бұрын
Good information! I have one and I agree ! I use mine as a camp stool and it’s okay and leave my folding camp chair at home !
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! If it’s a long thru-hike I leave the chair. If it’s a little more of a leisure trip, the canister and the camp chair come along 😄
@gregchambers6100
Жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks. Good advice.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback 👍
@DuctTapeADK
Ай бұрын
Too many ppl fail at a proper bear hang which then trains the bears with success. Many promote the pct method, which requires such a specific branch (few of which are truly available) , the bears then learn the one branch which contains food. I recommend ppl read Cliff Jacobson's articles about bears and food. He is an expert guide in the boundary waters canoe area.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I agree. It is very difficult to get a truly effective bear bag hang even when you find the correct tree(s).
@oxxnarrdflame8865
2 ай бұрын
Reflective strips on the canister, great idea.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Thanks, so glad you found it helpful! ☺️
@Jaden48108
Жыл бұрын
Good rundown.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊
@erict5878
Жыл бұрын
OH...great idea of sharing the back filling idea. Been doin that for years.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Great minds 😂
@NortheastHobbyfarmer
2 ай бұрын
I've had many encounters with bears all fairly friendly and I don't have to leave home to have them. I've hiked thousands of trails and never had a bear in my campsite, maybe they don't like the dogs. I can confirm that bears are acrobats and move much faster and quieter than most can imagine. I've always just hollered at them and they've run off. I have however had a harrowing experience with deer mice, thousands of them. It was at an open faced shelter in the Great Gulf, gone now for many years. This was due to the large groups of hikers wanting to climb the vertical walls of the gulf but without heavy packs. They would come in the nearly flat approach from the auto road and camp intending to summit the following day. I came in down a ladderway called the Six Husbands Trail and stayed the night then climbed the headwall to Mt. Washington the next day with a 50 pound pack. Everyone said I was crazy to do that and in retrospect they were right. Anyhow, the mice attacked after dark and chewed their way into most everyone's pack and ate whatever food they could find. I woke up multiple times with mice on my sleeping bag and they chewed a hole into my pack as well. The forest service burned the shelter a short time after that.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I have had the same observations about the agility and speed of bears. However, similar to your comments, I would have to say that my encounters have never felt threatening. The bears just wanted our food. However, they did come into camp. Maybe your theory about the dogs is correct because we didn't have one with us. Your mouse story is alarming! On my last trip I had just one chew a hole in my tent while I was in it. I can't imagine dealing with the numbers you’re talking about! That sounds like a plague of mice. The prevalence of smaller critters is probably one of the biggest reasons I carry a canister now. Especially when visiting popular campsites along high traffic trails.
@AWBabbage
22 күн бұрын
I had a very poor half nights sleep in the climbing hut atop the John Muir snowfield on Mt. Rainier as mice scrabbled and chewed their way through everyone’s packs. Bear cans protect against a lot more pests than just bears.
@mwaynem
19 күн бұрын
My sister-in-law was camping in Yosemite, and in the neighboring site, they had put some fresh brownies on the back seat of their car to cool. She warned them that it was not a good idea. But they would not listen. Less than a half hour later, a bear went to the car and, without much effort, put its claw into the gap of the door and popped it open. Everyone watching was amazed at how little effort it took for the bear to pop open a locked car door.
@jfowler
19 күн бұрын
Who can resist fresh brownies? 😂 Wow, powerful bear! Sadly, that’s not the first story I’ve heard of a bear doing that. I’ve been guilty of leaving food in the car but I’m extra careful about it now. Thanks for sharing the experience!
@gordonmacdowell8117
Жыл бұрын
Some days you get a line up over the branch on the first throw and some days it goes a bit worse. The craziest thing I ever saw was a guy who set up his tent directly under his hanging bear bag (like his tent was a ramp) and wouldn't do anything about it after he was warned about how bad an idea it was. I've given some thought to bear cannisters over the years, but I don't think I'd put non-food items in one while hiking because then those things would start smelling like food if those items are in your tent afterwards.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Funny story! Thanks for sharing! That’s a good reminder. Anything that comes in contact with food during a trip in bear country should not be kept in the tent. 👍
@kenwbrenner
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff. First-time viewer, enjoyed the video: good narration and subject matter. I an not ultra light and am more of a 70s type (at age 70). I like/need my comfort. That said, I like your argument on using canisters vs. bags. I've considered this, and feel the same on the size and space it takes up. I normally hike the AT for say, 10 days or less. And, thus far, I've not had to use a bear bag. I have an Osprey Aether 70, and could strap a canister on the bottom straps. If I did use a canister, I'd take your advice and store more than food in it. Another beef I have about canisters is they are expensive (like so much of today's backpacking equipment). Thanks for the great video, will look at your channel for more. God Bless!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, i’m so glad you enjoyed it! I’m with you on the weight/comfort balancing act. I also thought about the cost factor as being another drawback after I recorded the script. That’s still less significant to me than the weight and bulk. If you decide to put other items in the canister to save room, please be mindful of items that come in contact with food smells. If these end up in your tent they can still attract bears even though they aren’t food. Stay safe out there 😊
@kenwbrenner
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler Than you Jeff, I appreciate your good advice...
@AWBabbage
22 күн бұрын
I am also a 70+ hiker from the 70’s. My bear can weighs 2 pounds, which is a lot when I am counting every ounce, but compared with my old gear I have saved 3 pounds in my tent, 3 pounds in my backpack, 2 pounds in my sleeping bag, 1 pound in my stove and pot, and nearly 2 pounds in my footwear. Securing my food seems worth giving back 2 pounds, as does an extra pound in my mattress for a good night’s sleep.
@Scrambler85
Жыл бұрын
Bear spray may be a deterrent but it also can attract bears. So if you use it be prepared to change locations
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s very good to know 😎
@horustwohawks
Жыл бұрын
Important point you make there. Fact is, there's nothing about humans that don't attract bears that are hip to humans. Anything about us spells "potential food there". The only thing I might try is a stronger scent of natural things in the same area, for instance a little pine in a pine forest may help mask/throw-off a scent track, BUT I bet using pinesol, which is strong and they don't like, would simply indicate to them to "check it out".
@connorculver2172
Жыл бұрын
I live in Montana where there is a healthy and growing Grizzly Bear population. They are now starting to appear in areas they haven't been seen in for almost 100 years. I personally would never leave my food on the ground like that in a bear canister so I hang my food in a water proof bag 50-100 yards away from my camp. In high elevation places it is hard to find good trees to hang food but I'd rather have a mouse or something get to my food (which has never happened despite many many subpar hangs at higher elevations) than have a Grizzly end up sticking around because they can at least easily get to the thing I'm keeping my food in.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@kevingary7018
Жыл бұрын
A friend at work is going to Alaska to hunt moose with his brother. He is taking along a bear fence, and a 10 mm Glock.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Amazing country up there! Sounds like he is well prepared 👍
@JasonsKnotChannel
Жыл бұрын
Why not use the pulley system to hang your food bag? You don't need much more than a pulley and two pieces of paracord; don't need a long branch (even a broken branch will do); much lighter and easier to pack than a canister; pulley makes it easy to lift up (no friction). I think the canister is a good option but not sure if its the best. Mostly because of weight and needing to try to fit things inside of it.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Sounds like a great method! I also like the method that is almost as good as hanging between two trees where the bag gets hung from a diagonal line anchored to one tree. A carabiner is used as the hoist point and slides up the line as it is pulled up. 😎
@Buffenmeyer
Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit of a newbie when it comes to bear canisters. Any reason why they are always “canisters”? It seems to me that a rectangular shape might be a better fit to insert into - or attach onto - a pack. Just curious.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Good question! I don’t know. I would guess that it has something to do with how a cylindrical object distributes a load. Maybe a rectangular object would be more likely to cave in 🤷🏼♂️
@niceguy191
Жыл бұрын
It's for strength. They need to withstand a bear stomping on them to "pop" the container, also a round shape eliminates places to grab/bite so they don't carry it off or rip it open.
@talon9978
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I haven't hiked in areas where bears are prevalent. But one point I hear about the bear bag / bear canister is that bears will avoid humans. If the bears can smell the food, they can smell YOU! Bears are now becoming unafraid of human smell. The folks who insist that bears will avoid humans are just naive.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Yes, bears are becoming very comfortable around humans in some areas. This can make them seem less dangerous, but they are wild animals. Taking steps to properly handle our food protects both them and us 👍
@Hootyhoo-jq9vq
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@gorutra
Жыл бұрын
I’ve backpacked in Yosemite many times and have had to use a canister. Never had a problem with a bear or seen one. Other than the weight I enjoy the food security and convenience.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! I would absolutely love to backpack in Yosemite. My wife and I visited once and we both agree it was even more breathtaking than The Grand Canyon 😃
@KaraKirtley
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@CHThecleaner
Жыл бұрын
I usually backpack in areas of the California Sierras where there are black bears, but not high numbers. I prefer to use a counter balance method. I think it works really well if you have the right tree. The branch is too light for the bear to go out on, but flexible enough to hold his weight near the tree. 10-12 feet high, but 10 feet from the trunk if possible. I found bear cans too heavy and on a long trip one isn’t even enough for one person.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the experience! Yeah, makes sense. My trips are usually 3 nights so I haven't had to deal with the size limitation yet. Stay safe!
@richjoebushcraft
Жыл бұрын
Great tips! We don't usually get bears in my area (we mostly have coyotes and other people), so it hasn't been a priority, but I'd definitely consider it now if we venture north for a NH adventure. I also gave a subscribe in support of other small channels like mine with my son 👍
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I checked out the channel and you’re doing great! Congratulations 😎
@GeorgeAmodei21
Жыл бұрын
Very True. Been there and you described it exactly how I experienced it. 👍
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Oh man! I hope everyone stayed safe and didn’t lose any food or gear 😳
@GeorgeAmodei21
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler no my son on on Trip had Beef Jerky in his Rucksack in our TENT😳he was around 10-12 yrs old and bear was at our Tent ( we scared it off) but my son got so scared that he Pee’d his sleeping bag. So out that goes. We were @12,000 ft. Cold so we shared my bag😜. Other times I did the pull the Backpack up off ground yet lower than the branches… Nope that bear 🐻 is smart and knows what’s inside that so he pulled it up and left with it. In morning we found it shredded about 100 ft away. Thx god we had our bear Canisters in a ditch so bear would have hard time taking off w/ it… their so large, they can’t get their mouth around it but they’ll mess with it and give up. 🙏☺️
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Wow, rough night! Poor kid 😟 An experience he will never forget. Sounds like you made the best of the situation, though. I hope the rest of the trip went well.
@gcprost
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I don’t disagree with you but I have been hiking for a very long time and I have been taking school groups hiking as well for a long time. I have never had the kind of experience that you’ve had, the reason is that my hiking has been primarily in Grizzly country. You are right about black bears, they are very bright and they are scavengers. Grizzlies are different, they normally don’t want anything to do with people and they don’t seem to desire the “easy meal” that so seems to dominate the black bear’s mind. We must, of course recognize that all bears are intelligent and have different experiences and we’d be foolish to rely too heavily on generalizations. On one occasion a Grizzly, during the night was just a few feet away from my tent and was flipping rocks looking for bugs. He was not interested in my bear hang. I was on high alert and I loaded my flare pistol but he did not touch the tent. I have had many close encounters with grizzlies during the day. I never make any assumptions about them. I am always on high alert but still am thrilled to see these magnificent creature up close, in the wild.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, my experience is limited to black bear encounters. I appreciate your insight on grizzlies. I’m sure that your encounters were both exhilarating and humbling 😮
@wendyphillips5002
2 ай бұрын
I always carry a bear canister. I do not want to see the bears gone from the sierras. The canisters are bulky and heavy but it is worth it to save the bears and other animals in the wild. I place all of my trash and other items in the canisters as I eat the food inside. I always carry the canister inside my pack because it gets very hot in the sun cooking your food.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m always glad to hear from someone that cares about the welfare of bears. They are amazing creatures and it’s tragic when they lose their lives because of careless hikers and campers. 😢
@desperadodeluxe2292
Жыл бұрын
Avoid smells to reduce encounters. Peanut butter grease smell carries. They should make a bag or strap thats easy to carry the bear canister so your not forced to keep it in you backpack.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I can see that. Peanut butter is really hard to get off once it gets on something, too. Some canisters have optional bags with straps available 👍
@desperadodeluxe2292
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler tea tree oil or other essential oil helps get it off hands and especially surfaces. rubbing alcohol, and Dish soap is another one.
@LotsofStuffYT
Жыл бұрын
I've always felt that hanging your food just attracts more bears. Like dumping blood in the water to attract sharks.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I can see that as a definitely possibility. Who knows, hoisting food high in the air might increase the effect. I don’t know. It seems that some bears have learned to look for hanging bags. I know that was the case with our first encounter.
@randymcgirr1522
2 ай бұрын
Back in the 1980s we were still hanging a bear bag, but during the 1990s most people switched over to bear canisters. At least that's what we did in California in the Sierra Nevadas.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
That’s pretty interesting. I didn’t realize that bear canisters gained popularity in California thirty years ago. Thanks for sharing!
@randymcgirr1522
2 ай бұрын
@@jfowler Popularity? I wouldn't say that they are popular! LOL I don't recall when they became required in the Sierra Nevadas. Probably late 1990s or early 2000s.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
@randymcgirr1522 ah, ok. yeah, I could see that there would be some resistance to the requirement 😂
@johnrusso4970
Жыл бұрын
I bought my backpacker cache canister in 96 for a backcountry canoe trip to Algonquin provincial park known for its dense black bear population.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
That’s great! I think it’s one of the best ways to keep us and bears safe 👍
@gourdbox
2 ай бұрын
Hmm maybe room for a product that would be more like a 2 day canister, small enough to take 2-3 of them, and made to fold down if opened and unlocked in some way. I always stage my bear bag so the food for the last day is on the bottom, and each day has a bag within the bag. Toiletries on top. Seems like an area that could be improved for sure.
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
A product like that would be great! Thanks for sharing your ideas 😃
@johncannon5788
Ай бұрын
There are no words to Express how much I dislike bear canisters. They just plain suck to carry, especially in a ultra lightweight set up. I have had good success with the track. Basically a kevlar bag. It packs well and keeps your food safe. On a recent trip to Yosemite the rangers recommended them over bear canisters. Apparently the bears there have learned to steal the canisters and throw them off a cliff to shatter on the rocks below. They then climb down and claim their meal.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
That’s incredible 😮 Amazing how intelligent bears are, and how fast they learn 🎓
@oddoutdoors
Ай бұрын
I use an ursack. It's great. Only had 2 issues in 6 months and I only lost a bag of peanuts.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
I’ll have to check them out. Back in 2019 a bear tore one of those open at a nearby campsite so I never seriously considered them. It seems that they have been improved since then and more products have come to market. Thanks flor the tip!
@jerrystraka7856
Жыл бұрын
In Glacier Park, backcountry campsites have food hanging metal poles located about 100 yards from the food prep area and the food prep area is located about 100 yards from the tent area..... bears can't climb metal poles. separating foods from sleeping and cooking areas helps keep bears away from sleeping campers
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Great reminder! I’ve been guilty of if this 😬
@jerrystraka7856
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler I do this when camping.... (35+ years back country camping in Glacier ) Piss a perimeter. That's right. Piss a perimeter around where you pitch the tent. 50 yard diameter or bigger works . Urine is quite 'odiferous' to bears. They smell it from far away and tend to avoid it. Just like other animals mark their territory....do the same. Piss a perimeter as soon as you arrive and keep doing it while you stay there.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
@jerrystraka7856 Makes sense. I would would sooner do that than pee on my tent as was mentioned in another comment. With a perimeter of that size, I had better filter some extra water 😂
@jerrystraka7856
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler 😆😆.... I should have said it need not be a continuous circle. 😂😂
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
@jerrystraka7856 yeah, I figured 😂
@GreenEyedRogue
Ай бұрын
Pro Tip: Don't camp in areas where the local bears have been habituated to humans.
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
Yeah, learned the hard way 😅
@MrTmax74
Жыл бұрын
This was a very well done video, thank you. Do you do video work professionally? Fortunately out here where I live in Idaho, Bears aren’t much of a problem. I already have to carry around about 4 1/2 pounds of CPAP equipment lol. 😅
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That is very kind of you. No, this is a hobby for me. However, with each video this is becoming more and more of a job. I really enjoy the work, though. And love backpacking, of course. If things go well with the channel, it might end up as a profession. Idaho is beautiful, with so many awesome places to go hiking! 😎
@demonorse
6 ай бұрын
We used canisters in Bryce canyon.
@jfowler
6 ай бұрын
Oh wow! What a beautiful place 😎
@peterjohnson617
6 ай бұрын
thank you , that was indeed helpful. You spoke of problem bears but said nothing about problem campers ???
@jfowler
6 ай бұрын
Problem campers are the most dangerous creature out there 😂
@peetsnort
Ай бұрын
Apparently they hate Sauerkraut. They even leave unopened jars alone
@homeinguelph
Жыл бұрын
In parts of Ontario, Canada, the bears have figured out that they don't need to climb a tree for hanging bags....they just chew the rope until it breaks!
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! I think we all need to know that a bear hang is only as good as the line that holds it in the air. When a bear figures that out, it doesn’t matter how awesome we are at hanging a bear bag.
@gcvrsa
Жыл бұрын
I've been saying for years that all backpackers should be using bear canisters always, no excuses. The industry needs to adjust itself around the need for all backpackers to always use bear canisters, like making sure that the packs they make and the canisters they make are compatible. I live in the Green Mountain National Forest region, and it is a fairly common sight to see black bears ambling through populated areas. I use a BearVault BV500, and the only time I don't carry it is when I am on a strictly local day trip, where it is unlikely that even adverse events would end up with me having to spent a night out unexpectedly, but there is an area of the Adirondacks not too far from my location where the BearVault products are prohibited, because bears in that area have learned to open them, impossible as it may seem. I'm in the market for a new pack that will fit the BV500 inside, horizontally, since my current pack does not do so.
@gcvrsa
Жыл бұрын
Really, anyone who is interested in getting into backpacking or camping, and even veterans who don't yet own a bear canister, just go ahead and buy a bear canister that is approved for the areas you plan to visit before you buy anything else. Anything else. Get the canister first, then get the smallest pack that actually fits it and you comfortably. Make everything else revolve around that.
@bc58
Жыл бұрын
Just curious. Could you still hang a bear canister away from camp ? Would it help more than it being on the ground where they have easier access to it. Just thinking it might be more of a challenge for the bear. Thoughts ?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I suppose you could, but I’ve never done it. The bear would have to climb to reach it, but black bears seem very at home in trees and are very determined. So, it might work but maybe just for a while. Most canisters are smooth and have no lash points. You would have to brush up on your knot tying 😄
@TKSung
Жыл бұрын
I just returned from Trinity Alps and one group I met showed me the picture of their destroyed BearVault cannister. A black bear punctured the lid with its claws and got to the food. I have the same one and I'm going to see if I can get my money back and get one of those that require a coin to open instead. Bears don't carry a coin as far as I know..
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the experience! When I was shopping for one, there were two factors that made me steer away from BearVault. The Adirondack black bear that learned to open them and the screw lid. The clear plastic is really nice, though. One thing I do instead of using a coin (which I rarely have in my pocket) is attach a 3/8" flat washer to my pack with a loop of guy line cord. I used orange for visibility.
@bunhead8
3 ай бұрын
bears not only associate hanging bags with food, they also associate those big white square things in kitchens with holding food...speaking from experience in my cottage country...
@jfowler
3 ай бұрын
It amazes me how intelligent they are! 😮
@patrickday4206
2 ай бұрын
The problem is when going back country finding a tree to hang can be impossible sometimes
@jfowler
2 ай бұрын
I agree! And that’s the last thing I want to do at the end of a long day on the trail 😞
@tonybarnes3858
Жыл бұрын
I once heard of a solar panel electrified net using technology similar to the electric vegetable garden fence. Anyone ever heard of that?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I recently learned about electric fences designed for bears from another commenter. One that I found is made by UDAP. They make bear canisters and other bear defense products, too 👍
@tommeers
Жыл бұрын
We’ll done thanks for the video
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it 😊
@rosshowell6254
Жыл бұрын
👍 I was doing a section on the AT in Virginia and a bear got my PCT hang. Pulled on the trailing line until it broke the biner (cheap one)….
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I’m sure that was a frustrating discovery 😫
@pancakepillow
Ай бұрын
I camp in bear country and I have hung my food bag from trees hundreds of times and never had an issue
@jfowler
Ай бұрын
That’s great! Sounds like you have a rock solid method 👍
@jerryschneider145
Жыл бұрын
If I were going into a wilderness area, I believe a bear canister would be the way to go. I canoe and backpack into Yellowstone NP and there, with designated campsites, a bear pole or bear box is in every campsite. The most common bear we would most likely see is a Grizzly bear. They do not climb trees, so anything up the bear pole is probably safe. Plus you are required to use the bear pole or bear box. Canisters, left on the ground, would not be permitted. I am not sure those bear canisters are Grizzly proof.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I have no experience with grizzlies, so I appreciate your thoughts on what works.
@jerryschneider145
2 ай бұрын
Agree, those canisters are NOT Grizzly proof. And as you said where I backpack or canoe in Yellowstone, you are required to hang your food or use the bear box. last summer on a canoe trip on Yellowstone Lake I was surprised to see how many bear boxes there were in camp sites.
@Eastbound84
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree. Where were your two bear encounters?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it! The first encounter was along Flat Laurel Creek Trail not far from Sam Knob in North Carolina. The second encounter was right near the intersection of Old Butt Knob Trail and the Art Loeb Trail in Shining Rock Wilderness, North Carolina.
@Eastbound84
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler oh no! I was hoping you wouldnt say that! I had a feeling you were from NC the way you talked and the way the photos looked. I want to do flat laurel creek and sam knob. What scares me is I don't know how much of the bear activity goesunreported. Thank you for the heads up. I do have a bear canister and I figured you were going in that area when you said they were required in the area you were speaking of.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I did report the encounter but never received a response. So, I’m not sure if it was received. I’ve been back to the Art Loeb Trail and Shining Rock Wilderness, but not Flat Laurel Creek. I haven’t had any recent bear encounters up there. Stay safe!
@GeoWhiz287
Жыл бұрын
I've been resisting getting a bear canister, for the reasons you mention (including the fact that my usual pack is the very one you show the canister not fitting into!) , but I think you've convinced me and I'll take the plunge. Do you know what brand(s) are at the lighter weight end of the range?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question! The three pictured in the video are the only ones that I have experience using. The Osprey Exos 48L pack in that scene fits the Udap NO-FED-Bear canister horizontally just fine. It weighs in at just under 2.5 lbs. It’s the Backpacker’s Cache bear canister that is too large to fit horizontally in the 48L Exos, and it’s also heavier than the Udap. The lightest of the three is the Wild Ideas Bearikade, but it has a larger diameter than the others. The one in the video belongs to a friend of mine. He uses an Exos 58L and it fits fine. I think it weighs at or just under 2 lbs. The Udap and Backpacker’s Cache are available on Amazon and come with free returns. Perhaps, you can give them a try and return if they don’t fit well. Hope this helps 😊
@mountaineer5596
Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thank you.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@joannsmith9
5 ай бұрын
Very informative!
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@StoneRunning23
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad family is well.. curious, what area is State were you?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The bear encounters in the video were in and near Shining Rock Wilderness, North Carolina.
@Biciklom_oko_sveta
Жыл бұрын
How much help do hunter waffles that neutralize odors? I'm thinking of waffles with a natural smell of earth or white oak. I just bought them and have no experience in using them.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Not familiar with them 🤷🏼♂️
@Zacharyberg928
3 ай бұрын
What park did you encounter these bears?
@jfowler
3 ай бұрын
The first encounter was near Sam’s Knob and Black Balsam Knob and the second was near Shining Rock Mountain in Shining Rock Wilderness. These areas are inside Pisgah National Forest, NC.
@stephtraveler7378
Жыл бұрын
Couple of things professional hikers will not talk about (because they dont use them) 1) bear canister 2) poo shovel/spade They do PCT hang, not just tie line hang, when there's evidence of bears in the area.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Amateur here! Be on the lookout for my next video about using a poo shovel 😜
@joewoodchuck3824
Жыл бұрын
All well and good, but how are you supposed to fit enough food for the trip into a container of that size? I've been liking an electric fence for quite a while now.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those points! Wild Ideas makes a pretty large canister for up to 12 days of food. Would require a larger pack, though. I’ve been hearing more about electric fences. Seems like they are gaining popularity 👍
@joewoodchuck3824
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowler Standard electric fence chargers used for livestock are marketed as how much fence distance they'll cover. That figure is a derivative of an energy rating in joules which is a unit like the kw hours you pay for your electricity bill only much smaller. Vehicle ignition coils are also rated in joules and are usually around 50 millijoules (mj). If you ever got stung by one you'd have an idea of what 50 mj (0.05 joules) feels like. That's about where small agricultural fence chargers start. Last I knew chargers.for bears were recommended to be a minimum of 700 mj (0.7 joules). I suppose it's because of the thick fur. For farms there's often a place to plug a charger in for AC power to run the unit. You'll therefore be using one that runs on a battery of some sort, either internal to the charger or external. I don't know how much battery capacity is needed for use over time. The manufacturers or the web would offer guidance on that. Tractor Supply is one dealer of chargers. I go there often for nuts and bolts (far cheaper there than anywhere else) and I usually browse given that my sometimes farmer dad instilled the interest in me. That's how I discovered the fencing supplies there. Even if you buy somewhere else at least you get to see them there. Yes, it's all bulk and weight but that might be compared to or a substitute for the cans.
@kdboyle7673
5 ай бұрын
I have to remind myself to pack in my small waist pack at the end of the day because I often carry snacks in it..
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
I hear ya. That’s a good reminder. I always get worried that I left some crumbs in there from one of my snacks. I’m thinking I might need to use odor-proof bags in my hip pockets so they don’t attract any attention during the night 😳
@marianfrances4959
Жыл бұрын
At 69 i just do day hikes now, and sleep in my tryck camper, mostly on public lands. I am, however, fastidious about a ckean camp and do hang garbage up in trees...a distance away from camp, instead of storing inside the camper where I'm sleeping. Akso, i seek out unscented body products and household cleaners. We do love in bkack and grizzly country and so far, no pronlems.
@marianfrances4959
Жыл бұрын
LOL my finger is fatter than these silly phone keyboards! My spelling is better than it seems! Ha! 👍🇨🇦
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
But you managed to spell “fastidious” right 😂
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments! Glad to hear that you’re contentious about wildlife even though you’re in a camper 👍
@bigwheelsturning
Жыл бұрын
Watched a bear climb a tree and shimmy out a log to get our food bag up on a Bowern Lakes canoe trip. Chewed up all my new brides tupperware. Not a fun trip, as it happened at the halfway point and we 'fasted" for the last three days of the trip.
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Oh no! 😖 Sorry the trip had a bad setback. Well, at least you have a story to tell. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@bigwheelsturning
Жыл бұрын
@@jfowlerI worked as a forester, so I got to see lots of black bears on the job. An once I thought I heard Big Foot.
@branjosnow6244
Жыл бұрын
Since they are sealed, store them near your latrine area. One scent will overpower the other, and it has the added benefit as a natural territory boundary too. And if your kid pee's, make sure to pee where they pee'd so the bear smells adult human along with tiny human. I watched my male dog pee wherever his pups would go, to mask their smell with his, and send an open threat to any other predators in the area. All bears know how far mom's will go for their cubs, so the simple act of getting in front of your kids speaks volumes to the bear. If it's young enough it will still remember how fierce it's Momma was in similar situations, and not want the inevitable fight that would surely follow. Can of bear spray couldn't hurt to have either though?
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson on speaking to bears in pee language! They should call you the bear whisperer 😂
@squetch8057
5 ай бұрын
There are stronger materials that could be used to make bags bears cannot tear up, though they would crush the contents, these materials might be expensive.
@jfowler
5 ай бұрын
This is true. Ursack is a brand that has a selection of bag products they say are bear and critter resistant.
@Skreegore
Жыл бұрын
(actual bear) got me 💀
@jfowler
Жыл бұрын
I was afraid he was going to get me when he turned and looked back at me 😟
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