Thanks for making a vid on this topic dude! The system is fun :D
@cjay19821
2 жыл бұрын
Its great that you are all supporting each other. Its baffling that these labels can't see how by doing this they are biting the hands that feed
@BreakdownMediaYT
2 жыл бұрын
We are much, much smaller KZitemrs than both of you guys, but honestly on the back end, I'd say 75% of my time is spent disputing copyright claims. Really disheartening for new creators and stunts growth too, we are currently on 2 active copyright strikes and don't dare put another video out!
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats the bummer. You get put in a situation where uploading any content could now destroy your channel. Sorry You’re dealing with that.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for opening the door, Nik!
@umidead
2 жыл бұрын
It's not about jealousy or being a fan, but it's a big question to me. Why doesn't the copyright law block GALACTICRIMINAL's videos?
@KardavoxAcademy
2 жыл бұрын
Building relationships with labels has definitely been the best way to go about the whole process, 100% agreed. Getting those quotes from bands and labels about how they feel towards reaction videos and reactors is a great idea. You should definitely put that video out once it's ready! Much love, man
@galacticriminalx
2 жыл бұрын
I said this same thing on Niks copyright video "I stopped reacting to bands on certain labels a long time ago because of the publishers copyright policies. I get wanting to protect ur properties 100%, but youtube cover artists and reactors are the new 'Word of Mouth'. Many new AND established artists are getting big/bigger because of these 'Creators' nowadays. It's just the old hat money grubbing executives refusing to get with the times. Maybe they're realizing that labels and publishers aren't really needed anymore and are grasping at strings to keep their monopoly on an industry that's outgrown them or they're blatantly ignorant toward modern media as a whole. Regardless, they are missing out on a MASSIVE and profitable marketing sector and do not care"
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of that. Early on on my channel, I wouldn't have admitted that reactions are having a major impact on the music industry, because I didn't believe it. A year and a half later? Yeah, absolutely. Reaction channels are giving so much exposure to bands, and the bands themselves have come out and said it's making a difference.
@rofyle
2 жыл бұрын
In some cases though, it's not even the publisher. It's instead a third party acting on behalf of another publisher. Tom Macdonald has had problems with this. He publishes his own music, he owns the copyright, yet his stuff will still occasionally get hit with copyright by a third party publisher who has nothing to do with his music
@galacticriminalx
2 жыл бұрын
Watching further, I myself have not and WOULD not monetize my videos. Even if there is no claim. I am a hobbiest and I believe any monetization from my videos should go to who owns the copyright. The only reason people click on me or ANYONE reacting, regardless of their format is BECAUSE of the band/creator I'm viewing. That said, Educational and entertainment reactors are providing essentially the same product but opposite sides of the coin. In terms of fair use...different legally of course. It just seems a little backhanded to infer purely entertainment reactions are inferior, however unintentional
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
@@galacticriminalx Well, since I'm an idiot and accidentally deleted my own comment instead of the sex-spam-bot, let's try this again... First of all, I think you need to give yourself a little more credit than that. While a lot of our videos do draw new people in based on whatever band we're reacting to, they stay for you. If they didn't like you, they just wouldn't watch, regardless of whatever band you're reacting to. But don't try and hear stuff that I didn't say. I never inferred that entertainment reactors are inferior to educational reactors, and even said they both bring the same thing to the industry. At the same time, I've seen you say a ton of times that you hate "pause reactors" because reactions should just be people watching the music and not talking during it. So don't try and play the victim of the entertainment reactor when you've criticized educational reactors as well. And if you don't wanna monetize your videos? Totally cool. But don't act like a martyr about it and then complain that you have blocked videos when we don't. Our videos aren't getting cleared because we're "in pocketbooks" (which I've seen you say multiple times), our videos are getting cleared because we've taken the time to build relationships with the labels and they're willing to clear the copyrights on our content.
@pete_lind
2 жыл бұрын
I think the record is 7 copyright claims from different companies for a tool review channel video , for using public domain music . My opinion is that every single one of those labels should not be able to make any copyright claim for a year on YT , now days labels have no risk of false claims at all . Also Tanks no views part , i have used that in games , where they ask "have you a video of it" , i have given the link to them and no one has ever viewed those .
@Pygmyer
2 жыл бұрын
I've discovered Jinjer, Ad Infinitum, Eskimo Callboy, Shadow of Intent, Lorna Shore, Spiritbox, Whitechapel, The Agonist and so many many more incredible bands through your channel. As have so many other people. I wholeheartedly support everything you say here. And it's time it is finally said.
@VoodooMcVee
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, reactors (at least the good ones, who add information and/or well thought out opinion) are the music journalists of today. I, for one, much rather prefer watching an entertaining and informative reactor than reading a long-winded, self-celebrating article in a music magazine in which a trainee editor tries out the latest stylistic devices from his last literature lecture. And when I read an article like this, I still haven't heard the music and have to rely on the writer's judgement, whereas with a reactor it's more like listening to the song at a friend's place, talking with him about it and then, if I like it, listening to it on the band's official channel or putting it on my playlist. Hell, I'd even buy the albums if I only had any kind of suitable playback device! The thing I don't understand is that the record labels still send their records to those magazines - and even weeks before their actual release - so that they can write articles about them. I mean, the magazines make money with it, too, after all. So why shouldn't selected reactors be able to do the same?
@Killermcknight
2 жыл бұрын
Tank, awesome video and I love your stance when it comes to promoting the bands. As a new content creator inspired by the likes of you and Nik Nocturnal, I have seen new viewers find new bands from my videos and it is the greatest feeling in the world. I've only made about 50 videos so far and literally only 2 are not copyright claimed. You're video expresses the frustrations that every reactor feels and it's a breathe of fresh air. Thank you for your insight and honestly your Tank Talk streams and Q&A's have been super helpful for me and I'm grateful to have found you! Keep being awesome man I mean that.
@2727rogers
2 жыл бұрын
You made a great point about reaction videos increasing sales of a bands content. I for example I pretty well stopped buying music because I already had what I wanted and wasn't hearing anything new that interested me. I started checking out reaction channels to see people reacting to music that I grew upon and loved. I realized that there were a lot of suggestions in the comments about bands I never heard of saying if you like Rush you will love this band. One day I said to myself I will check out one of these band and so I clicked on a video of Nightwish Ghost Love Score and was blown away. Since that day I had bought every Nightwish album plus other bands like Epica, Ayreon, Wintersun, Jinger, Tool, Dream Theater and more besides. The music I loved was out there I was just looking in the wrong place for it.
@mezzaros5534
2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for music reactors such as yourself I would never have found bands such as Sabaton, Eskimo Callboy, Spiritbox or Jinjer. I’m grateful that you all do your thing and hope it gets better in the future.
@Amaranthine1000
2 жыл бұрын
If not for you and Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice, then I never would have gotten into listening to Saltatio Mortis, Sabaton, Eskimo Callboy, Amaranthe and many others. It is the reaction videos that has helped me find and expand my music boundaries. So great job and I hope things change for the better as i am finding more and more bands that I have never heard before primarily from reactors such as yourself. Record Publishers/labels and bands need to seriously recognize just how many more followers of their music they get from reactors, and more followers means more sales of their music and concert attendance (if and when we ever get out of this pandemic).
@samuelvimes5770
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you would like this song too, it was the first time I heard Elize Ryd kzitem.info/news/bejne/tKl52amar4irdJw
@JustAnotherReactor
2 жыл бұрын
When I first started my channel it was mostly what you describe as entertainment. I basically talked about how bad ass the songs were and that I was happy to have discovered a new artist such as the one I happened to be reacting to as well as a few other observations. Later, being that I played drums in a few different metal bands for a little over 20 years from 1984 till 2005, I started commenting on the drumming of certain songs and whether I thought it was easy or difficult, how certain beats are played, etc. I do want to evolve into more of an educational channel with the entertainment part still intact, but I'm no expert on anything music, (even drumming) so I basically need to learn how to use what knowledge I do have and interpret it into a coherent and interesting analysis in my reactions. I really did enjoy this video btw. Thanks for uploading it.
@philhemstock
2 жыл бұрын
We definitely need more of these 'Tank Talks', they are brilliant viewing and I love how honest you are about things. I also learn a heck of a lot!
@meokater
2 жыл бұрын
Personaly Speaking: your reactions are way more enternaining and interesting than 90% of the scene. Your view on the Production and Gear from a Roadies point of view is not only a reaction but education!
@swbigfan1
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about the bands/ labels who fight this being idiots. Probably 80% of my current playlist were bands I discovered via you, Chase Carneson, Julia Nilon, Elizabeth Zharoff, etc. I most enjoy the reactors who bring a depth of knowledge to the table and the bands you and they present get real exposure.
@TaverenTech
2 жыл бұрын
These are all on my top reactors too: Chase Carneson, Julia Nilon, Elizabeth Zharoff,, as well as Tank the Tech, David Heretic, and the Daily Doug. I've learned more about gear here than any other channel though.
@elvwood
2 жыл бұрын
@@TaverenTech Pretty much the same here (and almost the same list of reactors). And some bands I didn't discover directly from reactions were brought to my attention by the community - Blackbriar, for example. I've bought their entire back catalog from their website, so they've at least made a little money from this!
@kevintanis7368
2 жыл бұрын
You should do more original content like this you’re very entertaining to listen too and have a good point of view on things
@rofyle
2 жыл бұрын
He should, but even original content is being demonetized. KZitem's system is ridiculous.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
@@rofyle Yeah, I took a risk even putting background music in this video. But I stuck to the bands that I know and whose labels are usually cool with the use. I've had original content I've put on here that has been copyright claimed for supposed DMCA/Copyright Free music from KZitem's own sound library.
@LasTortugasAzules
2 жыл бұрын
I used to do sports play by play for a very small college. The radio station I worked for would upload or broadcasts to the KZitem channel for people to listen to if they missed the game. We ran into an issue doing baseball and softball games though, because the players had "walk up" songs play whenever they came up to bat. We're literally talking about 5 or so seconds of a song playing in the background where you could barely hear it at all. But we were getting so many copyright hits we had to stop uploading all our baseball and softball broadcasts. It's insane
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
That's ridiculous. THAT is the specific situations that shouldn't even exist.
@TheAbstruseOne
2 жыл бұрын
I have had copyright claims and ContentID claims on: Creative Commons licensed music, public domain music (yes, the recording was also public domain), video game background music claimed by someone who did not work on the video game but said I was using his "remix" of the video game music which was just the music ripped from the game with a Casio-keyboard-level beat loop mixed in, music claimed by artists whose music I did not use and rejected appeals continuing to claim that music was theirs even after I provided the actual artist, and - this one is my personal favorite - a SIX MONTH LONG ordeal where I had used music by a musician who is a friend of mine and she gave me explicit written permission to use her music (which she holds all copyrights, it's not owned by a label or anything else), yet every single week they would file a claim on yet another video where I used her music, wait the full 30 days allowed before rejecting my appeal, then wait the full 30 days AGAIN before finally releasing it...then claiming ANOTHER video of mine. This continued to happen despite both me AND THE MUSICIAN telling the company making the claims that I had a legitimate license to use the music. The whole thing only FINALLY ended after I mentioned the nightmare to Jim Stephanie Sterling of The Jimquisition and they retweeted me saying I was looking for other creators who had a similar runin with the same "rights management company" CDBaby so I could look into a class action lawsuit against them. THEN they finally got the hint that I had actually done things the proper way and gotten a license to use the music I was using.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some of these publishers have learned to abuse system and do it in the hopes that a content creator doesn’t realize it’s wrong. There needs to be punishments handed out for stuff like that.
@jerr5768
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy what you guys deal with. I've discovered i'd say 50% of my music in the last 2-3 years from reaction channels like yourself. Based on bands found through reaction channels i've bought songs, albums, merch, and hell concert tickets. Keep doing what your doing cause the community is here for it and the bands will appreciate it.
@diggrouze
2 жыл бұрын
I actually got a copyright infringement against me for sharing MY OWN MUSIC on my channel.. I posted a video of my band from the band channel on my personal channel.. and it got blocked.. MY MUSIC.. MY BAND .. talk about a WTF??? moment.....as a song writer and performer.. I agree.. the system DOES need to change.. how.. not sure.. but yes.. I agree.. I love your channel dude.. because you DO take it to the world with the bands and expose them TO THE WORLD...
@DaddyKhaos
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for existing Tank!! 🙌🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥
@2020bane
2 жыл бұрын
i spent about £3000 in the last year because of new music i have heard on you channel. you are costing me fortune but loving all the music.
@northof4912
2 жыл бұрын
The talk about how bands get discovered because of reaction videos got me thinking, how did I get here, watching Tank the Tech? A year ago, I don’t think I knew the term Reaction Video. I was familiar with Rick Beato and loved watching him break a song down (being that I’m very musically challenged, I appreciate the insights). Somewhere along the way, also started watching The Charasmatic Voice, Elizabeth, and really enjoyed learning about the singing from her. I think the sequence was watching here analyze David Draiman sing The Sound of Silence, a suggestion popped up to watch the Hu, Wolf Totem and then somewhere in there, a suggestion to watch Ghost, Love, Score………. And that was it, I’d been pulled over the wall, into the European metal scene. Epica, Sabaton, Within Temptation, Jinjer, Amaranthe, Kamelot, Ayreon, Spirit Box, etc, etc. Bands I’d never heard of until I watched reactors (or analysts, as I prefer to call the ones who analyze songs). Elizabeth led to Julia. Julia and a few others kept mentioning this name Chase, who I checked out….. and Chase talked about his friend Tank! And here we are! All because of these videos!!
@Guenter34
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I could listen to you talk all day. Something about your voice and the way you talk. I love it. I enjoy your rant/chat videos the most personally. Keep it up, Tank!
@phillee2814
2 жыл бұрын
As you mentioned, it is not always the actual owner of the copyright that files the claim. I know of an artist (in fact a songwriter/bassist) who was using one of her OWN TRACKS, PLAYED BY HER AND SOME FRIENDS in the background of one of her videos (hey, what could be safer, right?) and got a strike, appeal denied. The copyright was in her own name, which is also the name of her channel, so no way was there any room for doubt. The culprit was a company which she had paid to distribute her CDs. They even tried to fight it, so she terminated her business relationship with them, then had a friend buy the CD through them and with that sale as evidence sued THEM for breach of copyright and won, forcing them to sit on and eventually send her every unsold copy of her music in their possession. If they sell or distribute any at all, they will now be in contempt of court. I heard about this after the event, and when we were already regular online acquaintances. I bought the album direct from her. As her thank you to me, she signed it to me personally and included a signed photocopy of her original handwritten lyrics - VERY original, as they included crossings out and corrections. You won't get that from a distributor. It was never given even a hint of promotion by the distributor, who just duplicated, packed and mailed them out. Be careful who you use as distributors, all you musicians out there, and make certain that the contracted and signed terms of the business relationship are absolutely clear that the distributor has no right or standing to make a copyright claim on your behalf. Because there are some who will bend you over and ream you with a dirty stick if given even a sniff of the hint of an opportunity. I believe it was Tony Iommi who said that for a successful career as a musician, first learn to play a chord, then hire a lawyer before learning any more. He wasn't wrong.
@marieskavo7159
2 жыл бұрын
How is that even possible
@phillee2814
2 жыл бұрын
@@marieskavo7159 YT allowed that distributor to make claims "on behalf of" artists they covered - and both companies were too stupid to join up the dots and recognise the name even when she appealed it IN HER OWN NAME with the proof of copyright ownership. It takes a special kind of stupid to cause that kind of stress to an artist - particularly as the track in question was one (of several) that she wrote in memory of her son. That is how much YT think of their creators.
@WavePotter
2 жыл бұрын
Great video man. You've done a great job breaking this down so even i can understand it. I've had trouble even putting my own music in my videos because CD Baby, who i used to publish my past music, claims every video i put my songs in and has even gotten my livestream blocked. I wish i knew a way to self publish and distribute music to all platforms where the artist is still in full control. I wonder what the pros and cons would be of doing all self released music, and just working in conjunction with reaction channels. It would be great to see the law/YT make a change here, but if it started with the artists, maybe those 2 things could be circumvented altogether.
@Green-Lyon
2 жыл бұрын
I would never have become the Metalhead I am now if it weren't for reactors like you. I only learned about the existence of most of my current favorite bands, because of reaction vids. And I've spent a LOT of money on albums, Blu-rays/DVDs & other merch since!
@IPlayXZtyle
2 жыл бұрын
Some great points you make about how reaction videos are helping artists to expand their audience. If it hadn't been for a certain reaction channel checking out "Ghost Division", I would probably had gone way longer before I would start listening to Sabaton. Perhaps I may not have found them at all. And now their are easily in my top five favourite bands of all time, meaning I am buying merch and tickets to see their shows, therefore increasing their revenue. Luckily the guys in Sabaton are cool with all this and have understood the positive impact reaction channels has on their growing audience. Hopefully more artists will follow in their path and be more open minded when it comes to stuff like this. And keep up the good work Tank, Sabaton are the reason I discovered your channel! :)
@danielberger1378
2 жыл бұрын
I never really understood the principle of the "This is ours and you're not allowed to use it" mentality of certain labels.... You and and many other reactors do an awesome job and expose different bands to a wide audience, which eventually will attract some potential new fans checking the bands out, buying their albums, merch and whatsoever. Heck, I have discovered bands like Any Given Day, Spiritbox, Amaranthe, Band Maid, Orbit Culture, Feuerschwanz, Ad Infinitum and many many more BECAUSE of reaction channels! I'm just glad that I found your channel back in the day and that you're putting out great content! Thanks, Tank! \m/
@mangalores-x_x
2 жыл бұрын
because this is heavily abused as well with small creators getting fucked by thieves and copycats and then corporations and big chunks of the reaction scene are part of it. The law has its reasons and depending on the country is still more based in the rights of a creator to own his creation than labels or companies being dicks. People outside germany might have heard of GEMA as this weird organization pestering youtube to enforce copyright. Well, it is the job of the organization to do that for every artist who is a member of them and they are not a label or publisher or anything else. They just ensure that whoever uses an artist's work commercially will pay fees for it. They deal with radio stations, TV, media etc. for tens of thousands of members. This does help small artists. It is still a bureaucratic moloch in itself obviously. Main point: it is not black and white. One can see that Napalm Records apparently changed its attitude alot compared to other labels. But no, not every "exposure" for no money helps an artist
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
But is it really "exposure for no money" when labels are reporting bumps in record and merch sales after reactors have been doing reactions to those bands? I do, however, fully get your points and agree with most of it.
@solarwinds9363
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even worse, some artists are just as irritated by the publishers copyright claiming, either for others reviewing them or worse, they themselves get copyright claimed for playing their OWN material, it's weird.
@frankroos1167
2 жыл бұрын
Label: Hey, what can we do to get you to look at our bands? Tank: Stop being an arse. Good to hear that labels are leaning, thanks to your way of doing things. And the reason the power in copyrights are so strongly with the copyrigh holders is going to be hard to change. They have a strong lobby. That will need a strong counter-lobby. That's going to get hard to organize, with the way the reaction scene is organized right now.
@jol-a
2 жыл бұрын
I am very lazy to find new music, but thanks to You and a few other reaction channels, I've found a ton of new and amazing bands and songs. And the same time learned a lot about music, vocals, instruments, production etc. So my hat is off to You guys. Keep up the good work 🤘🏻
@Rex_Stuph
2 жыл бұрын
Funny one about this.. Back in 2013/14 ish, whenever monitsation came in, Matt Bellamy of Muse created a Muse channel and was uploading their video clips. Until their own record label claimed all the videos and basically shut the channel down. I can't remember if he made a video on it or just a post somewhere else on the socials.
@TauriReacts
2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Tank! I am what you labeled as an "Entertainment Reactor" and I have never once fought a Copyright Claim's because like you say it doesn't fall under Fair Use, but as you also stated any form of reaction, whether educational value or entertainment value truly does help that specific band get more recognition and "free" advertisement. I put free in quotation marks because we as reactors do spend that time filming and editing the videos to get them up on KZitem, no matter how much effort and time was put into said video.
@hogl1984
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tank, thanks for the insights. Just to show how much your promoting helps, we bought so much music because of reactions, primarily from you and The Charismatic Voice. Albums from Feuerschwanz, Ad Infinitum, Eskimo Callboy, Sabaton, Jinjer, Spiritbox and more that I'm forgetting. The only source of new music for us used to be pretty much bands on the Copenhell (Danish metal festival) lineup and for the past few years - reaction videos on KZitem. We would likely never have heard about these bands otherwise (well, some of them we had heard about of course but never listened to).
@akamrcam
2 жыл бұрын
Reaction videos re-invigorated my music listening. I was stuck in the music I already liked and wasn't adding any "new" music, and that's just new to me. KZitem suggested a "Hip Hop Fans" react to Pantera and I thought that might be interesting to watch. That was the Lost in Vegas channel, I liked their style and watched more videos, which lead me to Jinjer, Gojira and others. For active producing and touring bands it makes no sense to block reaction videos. Maybe for a retired band, but the Phil Collins reaction leading to a top spot on Spotify even puts that in doubt.
@larshoffmann2594
2 жыл бұрын
It's not just free promotion of new stuff to your listeners. Monstly I watch a reaction video (first time) on stuff I already know. Reactors gave me a new view and insight on those songs. For example: Before watching a (native english) reactor I never listened to the lyrics of Metallicas One. I just liked the instrumental arangement, the build up and Hetfields voice. All that Johnny Got His Gun came with a smal reactor. Or: I never immagined that Ozzys Crazy Train comments on the Cold War without reactors understanding their native language and doing research on the songs they listen too. That is why your content is top notch. All that research and effort and love for the music shows.
@danerdman4968
2 жыл бұрын
Love this video. You have my full support on this and I think the worst part of this is that the bands themselves who are the ones that are doing a good 90% of the work on said song who would 90% of the time be fine with it or being shut down by some person that is just collecting money on their work. I totally agree with everything you said.
@jenspfennig9226
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! I am proof, that reaction videos do generate money for bands. After having given up on new music in the mid-90s within the last 2,5 years I discovered a handfull of new (for me) bands through vartous reactions channels. The quality of music show-cased led to purchasing cds, dvds, blurays, merch, concert tickets (live + online), a paid fan membership and supporting another band on patreon.
@vretzen6714
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this Tank! I've only recently started doing music reaction videos and filed my first dispute the other day and was extremely nervous about it. Really nice to know that others who are larger within the community have the same thoughts and feelings about all this. Keep up the good work man!
@rantingrodent416
2 жыл бұрын
My favourite bizarre outcome from the current system is that a common solution is to start a Patreon for blocked reactions, which results in channels that were otherwise more than happy making nothing at all from their content charging for access to it, which is the opposite of what IP holders want.
@danschultz4870
2 жыл бұрын
Another great video man. I watch three main reactors you, charismatic voice, and daily Doug together you are my masters class in music equipment, compositions, and vocals along with the joy of finding wonderful new music and rediscovering old friends that my 53 yesr old brain had forgotten. Thanks and keep up the good work.
@BadMoonHorrors
2 жыл бұрын
Although I'm German myself I discovered Feuerschwanz and Eskimo Callboy through reactions on YT. And as I was well behaved this year (mostly), Santa invested some figures on them ;)
@djstraylight
2 жыл бұрын
Truth man. This week I think I've seen handful of people do similar videos. Keep up the good work and hopefully the publishers will realize they need to get with the times.
@DGReacts
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is new to the reaction scene (New in making them, I've been watching guys like you, Nik and HardCore and others for a long time) and honestly yes I do have reactions where I provide minimal opinion and it's just about enjoying the song (especially with metal/metalcore music) but I do a lot of KPOP breakdowns where I take a 3-4 minute song and turn it into a 12-16 minute video talking about everything from the lyrics to the visual meaning, my input as a video editor and whatnot, and the fact that even those videos that are transformative, they still get a claim and my disputes ALWAYS get rejected BY THE PERSON WHO MADE THE CLAIM, that's ridiculous. I am happy with how the channel is going though and I hope I can expand it into stuff like Patreon to try and provide exclusive reactions and shit but at the very least the copyright dispute should NOT be reviewed by the copyright claiment, because even if I provide the most logical dispute that is possible to provide, they wont even read it, they'll just be like "Nope, fuck you haha". The system definitely needs an update and the claiment should not have all the power. I appreciate all you do man, love your reactions and the head banging haha!
@GRIMMGent
2 жыл бұрын
We got copyright claims on some of the videos we upload because we were interviewing an artist face to face in a bar and somewhere in the far distance you can hear some of the music their playing at the bar. Their scanning system is quite impressive since half of the time you can barely make out the song among the other background noise. It even goes as far as getting copyright claims on some video interviews we publish and where we put very short clips of the band's music videos in there (without a single note of music) just to make the video more interesting. It's stupid.
@keithteaser
2 жыл бұрын
You are one of the best reactors there is. I always enjoy your analysis and content. I would think the best way to get around copyright is to have the labels send you the actual song/album as a physical copy so you could simply say "Todays reaction is sponsored by" and name the band label. This would be a way for reactors to (1) be paid for promotion. (2) Not have any copyright strikes. (3) it would allow you to also comment on the artwork quality. (4) all labels must accept good or bad analysis of the albums /songs. This will allow bands and labels to get a better understanding from old and new fans . This is an old idea that radio used to do by the bands sending in their product and radio airing them..Keep safe hope the family is well.
@andraskovacs8959
2 жыл бұрын
Great content, Tank! The one thing I cannot wrap my head around is how it is possible that some reaction channels play the whole video in one go without even talking over it and are just fine(not even providing very much, if any, added value, tbh), while others (e.g. Zach Ansley) only include 5-10 second snippets and still complain that the copyright system is crushing them... the only explanation that makes any kind of sense to me is maybe the first group is not trying to monetize their videos, and the second group insists on monetization... not sure I'm right, but this is what I have come up with - how far do you think it is from the truth? Of course these are the two extremes of approach, there are the ones like you, Chase, Elizabeth, Julia, Charlie Calotta, etc(just to name the ones I'm following), who provide additional value, pause when talking, and seem to be doing quite well - and I have no idea of the monetization strategy behind y'all, but imho just the added value is worth some money in itself, without the promotion aspect... Also, isn't there some flatrare licensing construction in place inside KZitem, that channels could subscribe to? Here in Hungary we have a flatrate built in to all storage devices'(HDD, SSD, MMC, CD-RW/DVD-RW, etc., even the mobile phones/tablets built-in storage) price by ARTISJUS, the local copyright office, so that they allow by default that we make copies of copyrighted material, strictly for personal use(so no broadcast), and the restaurants, radio stations and suchlike pay them per actual usage.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
It could be a lot of different things. Maybe those reactors you mentioned aren't getting their videos blocked, and just demonetized and they don't care. But the algorithm can also be very inconsistent. I've released videos immediately after reactors that I know who did the same video, and mine got blocked and theirs didn't, and visa versa.
@senditkevin
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Tank! With the whole discovering new bands thing, you have helped me discover a few bands because of your channel (Spiritbox and Caskets come to mind quickly). Totally get why you would want to make a connection with the bands and the labels.
@lasse0201
2 жыл бұрын
I 100% understand where you are coming from and agree 100% with you as well. These laws need to change, so that they are not just benefiting a certain group of people, but also people like yourself, the content creators. So many great points throughout the video Tank, in particular the part with all the free exposure the bands get from content creators reacting to their videos and music. Ps, i really enjoy your videos, they always give a nice indepht view on both the music and the gear that the bands are using, and also the thoughts that you give yourself on wether or not you liked it, they are also so great as well. I also want to wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year, can´t wait to see what great stuff you come up with in 2022 for us. I personally, hope for more videos with bands like Amaranthe, Nightwish and so on. But also bands like Dragonforce, Beast In Black and Volbeat. I can´t remember if you have done reaction videos for those 3 bands, but if not, i would love to see you do some for them in the new year. :)
@SourDohSteele
2 жыл бұрын
I have discovered so much music from the European scene just from this channel alone. Being in the US, I have not heard of a lot of them. You're 100% correct, that its asinine that anyone would argue that this is a bad thing.
@markuslausen
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, you add tons of value. It's not like you just sit there and listen to the whole song and say yeah that was great. So continue what you are doing and if they reach out get their approval.
@TheEclecticBeard
2 жыл бұрын
The publishers definitely found a massive stream of income, which, fair play to them as the artists own the rights. That said it is completely free advertising for the bands and artists. It's why smaller acts that are trying to come up and are still unsigned or are just on the cusp will reach out to reactors and ask them to react to their songs or pay for them to do a reaction so they can get their names out there. I've had my reactions clipped and put into multiple instagram stories and have also had bands and artists comment and thank me for the reaction. They definitely pay attention cause as you said, free advertisement. Love this video and even further commentary as far as the reaction scene is concerned.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Even some of the bigger bands are wanting to take advantage of the exposure they're getting from reactions. After a year and a half of doing this now, I regularly get Instagram DMs from signed bands on major labels saying they have new music coming out and asking for reactions. It's wild how the industry is slowly starting to get on board with reactions.
@joelmaynard3897
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely put Tank. But I can understand the reaction by the publisher when the sees the impact of reactor (but that didn't mind i agree with them). Take Ghost Love Score for exemple (ok we know its now a clicbait :p) but when you see that the reaction by Rebecca with 2.8 M views or The Charismatic Voice 2 M have more views (in less than 2 years) than the original video on the Nightwish official channel with 1.8 M (uploaded 8 years ago), it's mind blowing. Ok, the official video by Nuclear Blast have ten time the views of Rebecca or Elizabeth. But still, this number by themself push this publishers to do something, even if in the long run that maybe didn't serve well the artist.
@Z_TPI
2 жыл бұрын
16:50 basically all the music I listen to now, was discovered through reaction videos. 2 years ago I watched a reaction to Awakening, and almost instantly Unleash The Archers became my favourite band. I've been exposed to so much great music and bands these past 2 years since I started watching reactions. Prior to that, I was stuck listening to the bands I grew up on in the 90s and 00s. All my friends listened to rap, and I was the only metalhead. So I didn't have "word of mouth" recommendations to go on. Reaction videos became that missing link for me. Hope the system gets reformed for the better. I appreciate the work you and others put in, and it's sad that you guys get shaft from some of the publishers who don't understand how important the reaction scene actually is. Instead of you telling one person to check out a new band, like it used to be, now it's a reaction video of someone telling millions of people to check it out. The upside is bright as day, don't know how they don't realize it...
@careylymanjones
2 жыл бұрын
My reply to bands that block fair use is to boycott them. I haven't bought a Metallica album since the Black Album. There's a difference between using someone's song as a soundtrack for a video and someone who is using the song as a subject for analysis. Reaction videos, more often than not, are free advertising for the songs. So if they don't want the free ads, don't give them free ads. As the Jive Lady said in the movie "Airplane!", "Chump don' want no help, chump don' get no help."
@tooernn
2 жыл бұрын
Good point! I Can say from my point, 50% of the music I listen to comes from reactions, bands I have never heard from before. I start to listen to new bands all the time because of reactions, before Rections i thought it was "hard" to find new bands. I have started to follow a lot of record label that I didnt know of before but im seeing there logo on the reactions. For example, for 1 year ago I didnt know that unique leaders exist, today Im following them and finds new music every week that I listen to because I saw their logo a couple of times on the reactions. So Thank you and all the other reactions for this Tank! 🙂
@Bonehead777
2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could give you multiple likes for this video Tank. Very eloquent explanation of what pretty much all of us think.
@bennettmohlman8848
2 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right with how reactions help the music scene! You have been a huge one for me. I think you have only reacted to Avatar once, Bloody Angel. It changed my life, they are now a favorite and I bought 4 of their albums recently. I NEVER would have EVER heard of them before! Would love if you could check them out again. Sion too! Jared Dines asked for reactors to check them out! Anyway….thanks! You’re the best!
@petersilver4281
2 жыл бұрын
The irony of this is that it actually exposes more people to the music and is effectively free marketing they are giving up on...
@UmbraVolpes
2 жыл бұрын
Aye but these industries have paid for laws. Like the one where a public performance is more than 3 people listening to a song. And all public performances require whoever is playing the music, pay royalties per person involved in said public performance.
@MrFearlesskiller
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they aint getting the money so it hurts their little ego of rich losers
@npinjest7779
2 жыл бұрын
In terms of means of promotion and exposure , it would seem well-curated reaction channels have become a great way to expand following for a niche or local artists. The larger, established acts, with multiple promotion avenues, probably don’t see the same impact, so, as you suggest, they just cash in on the claims. Although Nightwish is an interesting case - no idea how they play this game, but here is a larger band whose YT reactions seem to be making up for the Once-missed opportunities to crack the US market wider, as the venue sizes for the latest announced US dates went up, even compared to the initially announced dates for the same tour.
@marbenthesaffa
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Finally got around to watching this video and you hit the nail on the head! I started my channel about 4 weeks ago and have been smashed with copyright claims by, funny enough, only really one publisher. I guess I would fall more into the 'entertainer reactor' area so it's expected. This video has given me a lot to think about so thanks man. Never got into this for the money. I LOVE metal and already have people commenting saying 'thanks for introducing me to a new band'. Job done! Huge fan of your work man🤘💪
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, and good look with everything!
@marbenthesaffa
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech Thanks man, appreciate it!
@nezunskyfire292
2 жыл бұрын
I found a bunch of bands I'd never would have heard of if not for reaction channels. I never would have gotten into Slaughter to Prevail if it weren't for reaction channels. I'm not usually into the sort of music. Now? I own a mask and preordered Kostolom when they dropped the album announcement. I can only imagine many more people have had the same story as I and made the band and label a lot of money they wouldn't have had. You can then further extrapolate that other bands are having similar effects. This is all before even the fact that you yourself have stated there's data of reaction channels helping sales. The system needs to change, and people like you, Rick and Nik (the only ones I've personally seen talking about it so far) trying to bring it to light will certainly have a massive impact on it. Keep rocking out, Tank!
@FriendlyNeighborhoodUnclePete
2 жыл бұрын
You just taught me a lot. Thank you. I started to make content myself a few months ago. You helped me very much with learning about the reality of copyright claims. Thank you buddy!
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Glad I could help!
@Andy_from_de
2 жыл бұрын
What you should bear in mind - as flawed as the system is as you very clearly pointed out, the US copyright law at least has the fair use clause in it. The EU copyright does not have it. I know that when South Africa wanted to reform their copyright laws, and include fair use, there was massive lobbying brinking on actual sanctions against the country by the music and film lobby in the US and Europe twisting politicians arms to prevent this from happening. As far as I know, fair use got nipped in the bud in SA.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
While some of that is true, there are some countries that have their own version of Fair Use laws, but not a lot. BUT... KZitem is owned by Google, which is based in the US. And because they host all of the content on the platform, on a technically, all of the content usually abides by US Fair Use laws.
@Andy_from_de
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech That's what I meant. If this wasn't the case then running a reaction channel would be way more challenging
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, absolutely agree with you.
@BadMoonHorrors
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech Germany's copyright law does have something kind of similar too. It must have some educational or explanatory character and not be just a series of quotation (so your content would most likely fit into this, probably except intro/outro music).
@mangalores-x_x
2 жыл бұрын
a bit weird claim. It is plainly not a European perogative up to now so these laws were handled on the national level until the 2019 with laws being implemented based on the evaluation of the freedom of expression. As such those rules aren't necessarily part of the copyright law but their own legal framework. E.g. EU copyright "law" actually consists of 2 regulations and 11 directives by the EU. You might note none of them are called "law". Regulations are legally binding on passing by the EU institutions (parlament and council), but all those directives are implemented by national law by national parlaments and will be based on national constitutions and how they evaluate the varying rights and interests. The EU is still pretty much a supranational entity mainly coordinating the fusion of areas of common interest between sovereign countries. It is not a federal state! It is just the most comprehensive and integrative kind of organization of this type.
@mjc220683
2 жыл бұрын
Spiritbox are a great example of this for me. You introduced me to them and since, I have purchased merch, watched all there own content. Consumed all the music and if they hit the UK I’m going. I’m a huge fan. I thank you for that. It works. My band is small and unsigned but IF we were to try and “make it” reactions are a damn good tool.
@TheOystei
2 жыл бұрын
I think I can credit you for me starting to listening to Sabaton for example. Good reaction channels are fascinating and makes me listen to music in a different way, and I don't always listen to the same music when I'm driving or pop in some buds while doing other stuff, than when I'm on my computer watching videos and reactions.
@sanfordikeda1471
2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Tank! I'm glad you posted this.
@deborahfoster3797
2 жыл бұрын
If it weren’t for reaction videos, I never would have found Nightwish! My very first song I heard of theirs was “The Pit & the Pendulum!” How could you not explore further what they were all about! They are my #1 band now! Love your videos Tank. When I was younger (I’m currently 68), I loved anything that had to do with “behind the scenes” stuff, whether it be in movies, music, etc. So I love your reactions because you also talk about what you know….keep up the great work! 😊🤘😁
@1IGG
2 жыл бұрын
Publishers.. Do everything they can so people don't discover their music and then "surprised pickachu face" when nobody discovers their music.
@ThecMaster
2 жыл бұрын
I discovered Band-Maid through reaction channels, I almost only play them now. It's definitely my favorite band and I play them on Spotify every day. I will go to live show as soon as it's possible for me. There are some other bands I have seen and listening to here and there. eskimo callboys for example.
@joeseconi250
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tank for opening the eyes of alot of people that have no idea what content creators go through. I lost my channel in one day by getting 3 strikes and all by one company. Its really sad considering all I wanted do was react to bands and music I love . That said I work for a major news organization and have been working on a piece on the importance of KZitem reactors and how they are the muscial influencers of our culture. Would you be interested in doing an interview on Zoom talking about this subject. Please let me know and I can explain further. Peace my brother
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Would absolutely be open to talking to you about stuff. Feel free to shoot me an e-mail: tanktheemail@gmail.com
@joeseconi250
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech Thank you in advance. I just emailed you. I cant wait to talk. Happy New Year my friend
@Brotherpasi
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree and feel you. It's frustrating when you do a nice guitar cover video and get blocked...
@AndDeathForAll82
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so thankful for artists like Tom Englund.
@raylafjara2503
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, it was very informative to hear what creators have to deal with. I totally agree with the free marketing part as I discovered many amazing bands through reaction channels. Keep up the great work.
@JustJenRx
2 жыл бұрын
All that hard work and BLOCKED!!! Arghhhh! It’s like the time Herman Li was playing DragonForce on his Twitch stream and they blocked him too! Smh! Great video! The FUCKKKKK was an actual depiction of what we all do when that happens lololol Edit: what I’ve learned, never appeal if your dispute is rejected 🙅🏼♀️ just leave it. Be grateful you have some great content and leave the legal stuff alone. We can trim songs, mute them, or replace them with copyright free music.
@waynecorder7675
2 жыл бұрын
I found a few of my favorite bands through your videos and some other reactors as well. Some of them sadly post Well Sorry we got blocked again. And it's Maddening even for us who were hoping to see it. I can only imagine how you guys feel after putting all the time and effort into it. But don't think for a second that we don't appreciate it Tank. Your one of my favorite reactionist keep up the good work my friend 😊 👍 👏
@luisnunes3863
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, Tank! Very well done. It's past time bogus claims are punished. That's the most necessary change. Sweeping changes to the laws are very undesirable at this point, with the political climate both in the US and EU, the result would likely be lobbyists putting an even worse system in place. Pushing for a couple of little tweaks that balance power a little would be better. That's my two cents, anyway. Happy New Year for you and your family.
@frankhermansen243
2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for reaction/education channels, I dont think I would have discovered Jinjer...Rebecca's in spring 2019🤘..Keep up the good work Tank..stay true to yourself🤘..Hope your enjoing your "Breake" with the family
@Fizzyford
2 жыл бұрын
It’s so true that reaction videos are helping bands. I had never heard of Lorna Shore until I watched your To The Hellfire reaction and now there one of my favorite bands! These labels need to light up on the copyright shit
@CharlesCharloCharles
2 жыл бұрын
Reaction channels finds me new music or rediscover bands I forgot about from my youth. Especially this channel did the later when it still did old songs
@Baldwinr1992
2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for a long while now. Some reaction channels can legit skyrocket some artists from local to international levels VERY quickly. I think the reason some labels don't like reaction channels using their artists music is because they have no say in what the reactors say or their opinions, especially when a lot of larger reactors (not always)can be seen as, "influencers" and sway people from liking or disliking a song/band that are attached to the label. But that's just my take on it.
@evilfantasy69
2 жыл бұрын
I used to discover new music with the streaming services "Play [this bands] Radio" option but those eventually became dominated by who could game the algorithm. Now I get my new music fix from reactors. The labels will catch up but how their version of reactions will look will probably be horrible. Leave it up to the community.
@martinriha4941
2 жыл бұрын
AHA!!! Now I understand why you neglect some of my pushy suggestions😊 For example band Manimal, that is under AFM Records, which is apparently on your blacklist 😃 Completely agree with you and thanks for the ride so far. Been subscribed since your Hypa reaction and was never disappointed 🤘🤘🤘
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, AFM is not on my blacklist, and they are a fantastic label.
@martinriha4941
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech Gotcha! Now you cannot avoid my request for Manimal anymore😃
@MaraxisArcanist
2 жыл бұрын
I specifically found Orbit Culture through your channel and they're one of my top bands now. You're 100% correct about reaction channels being free publicity.
@marcoonetooth4720
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective on the music copyright side of it. I personally am an author and have not encountered any issues with reviewers or anyone using 'too much' material. Most certainly a good excerpt is necessary to give people a feel for the book, but outright re-uploads are very rare. I feel the real issue is music labels are a dying industry. With revenue streams like KZitem, Spotify, and others; the distribution of music is changing. These labels (if they are like publishers) have held far too much power over content creators for too long. I believe its why people turn to reaction channels and other sources. We don't want another generic pop brand, we want unique music with depth and meaning. Social media and different revenue streams are empowering artists in ways that threaten long standing power structures. Change will come, but it will come when artists themselves embrace new ways of reaching fans.
@rofyle
2 жыл бұрын
Napalm would not even still exist today without reaction channels.
@ThunderRooster
2 жыл бұрын
Well put Tank. We know all about that! We even made a cover of Hypa Hypa and the Melody got copyrighted. Even though we have a cover license for the music. Still waiting on the review of the dispute. Very frustrating. Especially when you try to go about everything the right way.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of those melody copyrights are from bogus third parties as well, and aren't even representing the actual publisher that works with the band.
@JD-ef1jb
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love seeing the comments from bands on your videos. And I'm totally stoked to see you at the Feuerschwanz premier. Also count me as one of the people who would have never watched/listened to Eskimo Callboy without seeing your reactions to them. Now I really like them, and i'm not into that genre of music. And your interview with Hans, encouraged me to spend the extra $$$ and order the new album from Germany (since the US didn't have the special editions). So yeah keep it up man. And thank you for this video.
@dreadrattle
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, between you and Nik, you guys have introduced me to some amazing music. Thank you for all your hard work man!
@N1yaw
2 жыл бұрын
I like your attitude. Hope you're right with the future prediction
@pandoras-box
2 жыл бұрын
True in so many points. Not only in the Music Industry. Keep it up Tank! Thank you so much for your videos - Greetings and best wishes from Germany
@DerKomischeTyp
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that annoys me is that they're spitting in the hands that are helping them. And in the long run that hurts everyone. It hurts them, their bands, the fans, the ones with the copyright claim and the fans.
@osafitch3959
2 жыл бұрын
Old Smile Nerd sent me - your video makes some really great points!
@anunearthlychild8569
2 жыл бұрын
In 2019, together with almost a million people, I took to the streets against copyright reform. We had exactly the concerns that are causing problems today. But the politicians were of the opinion that all those who demonstrate are children who have no idea. Now exactly what we feared has happened, the big platforms block everything to avoid problems.
@infin8reactions
2 жыл бұрын
Believe music and tunecore man, those are the instant blocks I agree with you 100% I've had bands shout me out too which is a buzz! But the publishers don't speak to the artists... It's frustrating!! My background music is royalty free from a paid site so it never gets claimed but reactions are super frustrating like you said
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
I've never had instant blocks from Believe or Tunecore, but I've never NOT had a copyright claim from them.
@infin8reactions
2 жыл бұрын
@@TankTheTech claims is what I meant lol, they demonatize everything, my bad 😂😂 Your block usually come from the big guns like Sony, Warner and universal, I use a copyright filter to get round it because it's usually the video that's blocked and not the music 😁
@rlGinjaNinja
2 жыл бұрын
Not terribly important (or important at all, ha) to the topic at hand, but... Can you title all your 'just talking' videos "Tank Talks" from now on? I love that so much lol. Thanks for your talks
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@Birkebeinar
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Lots of interesting information that I was unaware of!
@ricguanz3596
2 жыл бұрын
I think publishers who are against reaction videos are terrified that bands or artists may no longer need publishers
@Dreveryn
2 жыл бұрын
What's really fucked up about youtube's copyright system is how it can be abused. Look up MXR Plays Jukin Media situation. They were reacting to online clips of just web videos. This company "Jukin Media" purchased some of those clips and ran copyrights on every video with them to collect the ad revenue for profit. Then they went and contacted the creators to exploit them for money or strike their videos. MXR won that battle because top youtubers backed them, but it really should not have gotten that far in the first place.
@stephenkalisz6495
2 жыл бұрын
thanks tank, your honesty is one of the things that keeps me watching. and your knowledge of gear has given me a whole new way to appreciate the music. keep it up
@thorstenczap7101
2 жыл бұрын
You absolutely right these laws are antiquated and need to go with the time. I never started due to those obstacles they gave the content Creator. Hopefully they will change in the future so people like you can finally can get their fair share for the hard work they put in these videos.
@jessel3621
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem has no incentive to reform their copyright system because they have no big competition at the moment.
@TankTheTech
2 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@rantingrodent416
2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that KZitem does the bare minimum needed to keep themselves legally protected without ever having to set foot in court themselves, so as long as the laws remain as they are, any competitor is likely to either end up doing something very similar or eventually fizzle out due to legal expenses.
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