How can you say “it’s not fair”? You didn’t have to buy the car, and unless you were looking at EV’s with rose-coloured glasses, there has been plenty of evidence to indicate their atrocious depreciation, among other things. Make decisions, live with the consequences. It’s not a matter of fairness.
@zarroth
4 ай бұрын
fanbois have an incredibly large blind spot that causes them to ignore reality, just like flat earthers or the people that say niburu is coming from under the sun. All kind of mad hatter nonsense the last 20 years. Makes me sad that critical thinking seems to have vanished from almost everyone under 40.
@SteveLomas-k6k
4 ай бұрын
'I paid 19,000 for this car' And how much did all your tax paying neighbors have to chip in? Was that fair on them?
@MrBucko1990
4 ай бұрын
@@SteveLomas-k6kthere is not incentives or tax breaks on the purchase of a second hand EV in Ireland so that answer to your question is €0 👍
@lesbenson9421
4 ай бұрын
The first horseless carriages had terrible depreciation, also. So what. You have a car for the ages that is 4X more efficient and longer lived than any ICE car. You are driving a pioneer vehicle.
@michaeletzel4877
4 ай бұрын
@@lesbenson9421 Longer lived than any ICE car? Are you joking? There are ICE cars in great condition which have been running for 3-5 decades. Modern BEV and hybrids have hardly been around for more than 1 decade. And where did you get your "4x more efficient" statement from? They are not *that* much more efficient than ICE cars, and even if they were that is completely negated by needing to waste so much more of your time charging, and just finding a charger that is not only available but actually functional in the first place. Don't bother replying with "well you can just charge your car at home" because that is something that many people do not have the means to do for a variety of reasons.
@VolkswagenNut1969
4 ай бұрын
Stories like this just make me appreciate my 30 year old Volvo wagon all the more. 300,000 miles, never strands me, rare repairs (which are usually simple and cheap), no payments, cheap insurance, runs efficiently on low grade gas, safe, comfortable, and I get the occasional thumbs-up on the road . Plus, I’m helping the environment by recycling (driving the same car for many, many, many years). 😋 Love it!
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
Wrong. An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive AUD $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.
@VolkswagenNut1969
4 ай бұрын
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b No disrespect, but you’re full of shit. Factor in the pollution created to generate the already overtaxed electrical grid, the manufacture of electric cars vs. gas cars, the fact that electric cars are heavier, use up tires way faster, only last a few years at best, leading to even more manufacturing and pollution, to say nothing of the extra pollution caused by disposing of all those big heavy batteries….electric cars are a disaster for the environment when all of the bits of reality are factored in. Think about what you’re saying first before jumping on someone that knows quite a bit about this. Unless you like being a mindless lapdog.
@VolkswagenNut1969
4 ай бұрын
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b I mean SERIOUSLY! What are you talking about, “zero dollars and zero emissions”????? Far from it, you are living in a knowledge vacuum. 🙄
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
@@VolkswagenNut1969 Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! In Australia, most EVs are essentially charged with home rooftop solar. After the break even point has been reached with the solar system investment, which is only within a few years, all electricity generated becomes free of charge. This explains why home solar is so popular in Australia. By the 2030s, the _entire_ Australian public electricity grid will be powered by renewable sources, so by default, all EVs will have zero emissions. Tim, you need to be more Australian in your outlook in life and pledge your loyalty to the Governor-General. You will live longer. 🦘🇦🇺
@C00KSTERr1
4 ай бұрын
I agree, I'm driving a 82 Land cruiser fj40. Owning vehicles long term is much less wasteful, besides co2 emissions is literally plant food. Co2 is necessary for plants to produce oxygen, but I guess schools aren't teaching this in 4th grade science anymore.
@krakatoa1200
4 ай бұрын
I can't think of anyone who would buy a second hand EV.
@michaelgodbold6247
4 ай бұрын
Can't think anyone would be stupid enough to buy a new milk float
@feezee82
4 ай бұрын
I’d consider buying one, for maybe 20% of original price. But not Hyundai though, a tesla maybe.
@maurice7413
4 ай бұрын
I can, me. Bought a used 2016 Ioniq EV 3 years ago. Had 35,000 miles (56,000 km) and now has 122,000 miles (196,000 km). Paid $16,000 USD and they are selling for about $15,000.00 now. Note that none of the used ones I've looked at have as many miles as mine, so I know I couldn't sell mine for that much. I've had zero problems with the car, and the range shows about the same as when I bought it. I know this is anecdotal, but it's my story.
@jezthomas4402
4 ай бұрын
@@maurice7413 Me too, they're amazing value now previous owners have taken a massive hit on depreciation.
@quademasters249
4 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for them to get cheap enough.
@stoneyswolf
4 ай бұрын
The only people this was unfair to was the taxpayers who were forced to subsidize the cost of those EVs.
@gbone7581
4 ай бұрын
the poor subsidizing the rich!
@GoldenCroc
4 ай бұрын
To be fair, as a collective, they voted for it.
@johnnyappleseed6960
4 ай бұрын
To be Fair, most people don't believe in a "Collective"... And, no matter how loud people have been voicing their opinions against the "Consensus Narritive" being pushed, some people just need to learn through the Road of Hardknocks... I mean, it's like they enjoy being lead through the streets by the Pied Pipers they vote for...Never thinking for themselves!
@hidongcucuk4756
4 ай бұрын
Get what you voted for!!! lol.
@JohnSmith-mi8zy
4 ай бұрын
You think we don't subsidize oil companies?
@curtcollett2893
4 ай бұрын
At least what you did pales to what the former CEO of Hertz did.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
What Hertz does, or does not do, in the United States with their company rental fleet is neither here nor there for individual consumers. A consumer only buys a single EV for his personal use, not tens of thousands of EVs for company revenue generating purposes. In any case, the truly massive savings with running costs for an individual EV owner still hold true, no matter what Hertz USA does with their large EV fleet. As a matter of fact, Hertz Australia does rent out EVs.
@aaaaaaab11
4 ай бұрын
All ev's and hybrid cars + trucks are junk get over it. Ev's 🔥 aren't allowed on my property end of story 😊
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
@@aaaaaaab11 Todd, no one cares about your stupid American opinions.
@doctordetroit4339
4 ай бұрын
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Who gives a crap about Oz? Are you the trendsetters? You don't produce a single car. EVs have cost real companies billions and EVs have been exposed as frauds.
@chriswilliams8607
4 ай бұрын
another one who does not understand that the Hetz story was fakenews, they speculated on buying Teslas cheap and selling them expensive, as Tesla lowered their prices they made a loss, it had NOTHING to do with "high repair costs" or other BS, that was a dumb excuse for their failure. Companies like Hertz do not make money on lending cars, they make money on buying thousends of cars for huge discount, use them a short time and resell them.
@tonymu2976
4 ай бұрын
My retirement community is spending a lot of money to install vehicle charging stations for the 2 or 3 people who have EV. I live in lefty land
@darylfoster7944
4 ай бұрын
Why can't they charge in their garage?
@ledzeppelin1212
4 ай бұрын
The cost should get passed on to those who pay to use it so shouldn’t affect you.
@craigwells3655
Ай бұрын
Yeah, the lefties. Us and the meek will inherit this earth....once the dinosaurs have vanished.
@timothykelley4425
4 ай бұрын
My opinion of EV's is complete overpriced junk.
@chriswilliams8607
4 ай бұрын
Besides the fact that they are no junk as they save 70 percent energy compared to ICE cars, and can be powered by sun or wind for almost nothing, the price argument does not apply anymore. Tesla Model 3 is now cheaper than a comparable midsize car with same features.
@AbolishCommunism
4 ай бұрын
Here in Vancouver, it's cheaper to drive a model 3 or y. Better warranty than ice cars to. There's a trend around the world where people seem to think they get cool points by putting down evs.
@voongnz
4 ай бұрын
@@AbolishCommunismit's edgy and cool I guess. I don't have an EV, I drive a twin turbo straight 6 H-pattern gas guggler, but I think people should drive whatever they want and not denigrate them like what some "cool people" are doing these days. And if I were say that they were overpriced junk, I'd like to think I'd back it up with some info of why, and not make a blanket statement about all EV's. I'm not siding with any group and playing any dumb car tribalism games. I'll just be a petrolhead and appreciate the EV's that are implemented properly. Maybe pick one up one day.
@JamesTan-mq4eo
4 ай бұрын
@@voongnz congrats for having a sound and open mind. im really surprise at this day and age, people are still not doing their own research before forming their own decisions. they tend to get defensive when im just trying to debunk the myth or misinformation. i always said if evs are currently not suitable for you, fine. get the car that suits your needs or wants. no need to bash or spread misinformation. give others a chance to make their own decision.
@voongnz
4 ай бұрын
@@JamesTan-mq4eo yeah I'm generally an early adopter on anything tech related, however EV's somehow have evaded me or vice versa. I'm not updated on the latest EV tech but I know lfp and blade batteries have progressed and I'm not repeating old info of batteries spontaneously combusting, thermal runaway etc etc. I also ride motorbikes and know how cliquey and douchey tribalism gets, especially between sportbikes and cruisers. It's very cringey. Even the Harley Davison HOG ownership have shunned their own with the Harley EV. It's funny to me how people just follow and repeat just because they don't like something, sometimes it's something they don't know all or anything about it, and even worse when some people don't like something but don't know why they don't like it lol. Sheep. If they have a legitimate gripe about something, I'll listen to it, I might agree to it too. Being too closed minded is a sign of low intelligence.
@Allan-es2hz
4 ай бұрын
I keep a car on average for 20 years, and on top of that I do not buy new cars. EVs are a non starter on all these points, plus everyone I've seen is butt fugly.
@chrishart8548
4 ай бұрын
My last car died at 15 years old 70k I was hoping it would last forever but so many things went wrong. None to do with maintenance. Mostly electrical and oil and coolant leaking. The AC was still great though.
@chrishart8548
4 ай бұрын
What do you think of how the skoda enyaq looks.
@stevengriffin7873
4 ай бұрын
One of my cars is 25 years old and I bought it 24 years ago.My latest is 15 years old and I bought it 2 years ago.Both run like new and I have no intention of selling either and both have many years of life left in them.Looking after them properly and using them properly makes all the difference.Not many people seem to be able to grasp that.How many cars and batteries are these ev wankers going to get through in the same period.
@Isclachau
4 ай бұрын
😂😂Butt ugly. Yes we were promised lovely looking cars and instead we got cars actually worse looking 😂
@k.chriscaldwell4141
4 ай бұрын
120 miles per charge?! That’s sad and funny. My 20-year old car gets the same 22 miles per gallon as on day one; Even in Winter.
@trevorross8746
4 ай бұрын
Why did you buy in the 1st place
@pillred5974
4 ай бұрын
The Macmaster has lost over £60,000 on his electric Taycan in less than 2 years so think yourself lucky, if you had watched any of his videos I doubt you would have bought your Hyundai in the first place.
@stephenballantyne
4 ай бұрын
If you'd watched any of his videos you'd wish you'd had a lobotomy first.
@Lewis_Standing
4 ай бұрын
You haven't worked out that he's a troll yet then? The man can't complete the simplest of journeys, he's supposed to be an adult
@Ragnar009
4 ай бұрын
Aah the great Macmaster. Yeah he got screwed there. Imagine buying a car for 120 quid and it being worth 40k 2 years later. Welcome to EVs. But at least he's making some good money on his EV vids. He needs to keep that car. But most of us can't do that.
@oldgit15
4 ай бұрын
Well, seeing as his whole grift is to get anti-ev, Porsche-driver-hating loonies to buy enough of his merch to fund his electric Porsche - successfully, obviously - I don't suppose he's stopped laughing enough to care. Also, check Autotrader and you'll find it's still worth 75-80 k.
@georgegently3026
4 ай бұрын
@@Lewis_Standingtry a vw id 3 then, they lose 20k in 2 years. Go look on auto trade. Mgs can lose 6k in months.
@scootjohn777
4 ай бұрын
I went. For a hybrid Toyota Yaris cross. Getting 73.1 mpg, and no range anxiety. 😁
@chrishart8548
4 ай бұрын
But that 73 miles will cost you £7.07 I can do that in my EV for £1.46
@kevinbrown7219
4 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Quite true but you missed the point. The very rapid depreciation of EV's more than cancels out your savings. A Yaris cross with 100k km will still have a good residual value. Endfloats EV depreciation has probably cost him twice his "savings".
@Ziegfried82
4 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 electricity prices are not going down, especially as nations continue their march towards green energy which is VERY expensive. Not only that, the Yaris has a lot more range, fills up way faster and is therefore a lot more practical in general.
@georgegently3026
4 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 bet your EV has depreciated more than his Yaris cost.
@chrishart8548
4 ай бұрын
@@georgegently3026 I wouldn't know. It's just worth 1 car to me
@floxy20
4 ай бұрын
My advice: get a welder to remove the top, fill with earth, plant flowers and display in your driveway for all to see.
@gbone7581
4 ай бұрын
an angle grinder will do the trick.
@briand4000
Ай бұрын
yank out the electric motor, bolt in a little four banger gas burner and carry on.
@FLAPARON
4 ай бұрын
This is what happens when government provide subsidies for products which will replace the current product , yet the current product is way better.
@johanndork5364
4 ай бұрын
Lease one is the only way.
@decimal1815
4 ай бұрын
if 'better' = more polluting
@darylfoster7944
4 ай бұрын
The subsidies are going away
@depthspader8820
4 ай бұрын
@@decimal1815you mean like all the pollution that comes from making the batteries, and don't forget it is still fossil fuels that are powering that EV, unless you think that electricity comes from air.
@DeadNoob451
4 ай бұрын
@@depthspader8820 Thats too much for an EV fan. They only understand what they can see with their own eyes.
@johnlesoudeur3653
4 ай бұрын
Fool you once...but not fool you twice? It is the same as selling your mobile phone, buyers will take into account the state of the battery.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
The ‘state of the battery’ is irrelevant nearly all of the time as the battery packs are designed the last the life of the EV many times over. There are many EVs around the world which have travelled 500,000km with their original battery packs.
@tomtom1541
4 ай бұрын
@@user-kc1tf7zm3bwhen you plug a scan tool in you can see how much the battery has degraded. Some mechanics do thhis for you now as part of a pre purchase inspection.
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
4 ай бұрын
There is no comparison between a mobile phone battery and an EV battery. The BMS makes sure the voltage on the cells never hits zero and maintains a buffer at the top end...This is why EV batteries last so long, easily outliving a typical ICE engine.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 In Australia, most petrol cars are decommissioned and scrapped at 15 years with only 180,000km travelled, as at this point the petrol engine and transmission maintenance is too onerous and uneconomical.
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
4 ай бұрын
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b In the UK the average car is scrapped at 16 years and 150,000 miles. An EV has a fraction of the moving parts and subsystems of an ICE (gearbox, starter motor, fuel pump, water pump etc), the electric motor is good for half a million miles or more and the battery at least 250,000 miles...Eventually it will sink in to the minds of Joe Public that EVs are a much better long term prospect than an ICE which at 15 years is a bag of bolts.
@anthonymaddison9588
4 ай бұрын
You , my friend, are the problem.
@gwcrispi
4 ай бұрын
But he'll vote for the Lib Dems the next time too...
@Resistance_is_Futile01
4 ай бұрын
Yep he is a total tool! Idiot pfft
@ignignxkt
4 ай бұрын
Luckily I learned this lesson before most with my Chevy Volt (45k to 11k in two years 35k miles). I’ll never own something that plugs in, has a battery and can be outdated like a phone ever again.
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
4 ай бұрын
Then you won't be driving as all cars will be EVs within 10 to 15 years.😊
@georgegently3026
4 ай бұрын
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270hahaha, yeah, ok
@ignignxkt
4 ай бұрын
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Sure. No one can be voted out or in office and change deadlines the current admin has already changed themselves. And there’s no way to maintenance and continue driving existing internal combustion engines. Nope. No way. /s
@aantonic
4 ай бұрын
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270says who? Elon?
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
4 ай бұрын
@@aantonic Nope, just me. The car industry (note I say INDUSTRY) is only going one way, and that's electric. The debate is over on what and how we will power ground transportation. Just follow the money, see where the investment is going and you will come to the same conclusion.
@patreilly6826
4 ай бұрын
You will keep the car until the little electric widget breaks then it will cost more than the car is worth to repair. If that little widget is available. Leaf owners where I live have found out that after 5 years Nissan is washing their hands of them and more Leaf’s are turning into driveway bricks. The culprit of that scenario is the main battery. The pathetic range on that car drops to nothing when a cell gives out. Nissan does not supply replacements for cars over five years old. Third party suppliers are reluctant to get into that small market so a useless parts car is what you get. I can go out and find a 20 year old rebuilt 302 for $1600 and drop it into my 20 year old 😊Mustang to get another 250,000 miles out of it. That is how you get longevity. After market parts.😅
@ViktorSarge
4 ай бұрын
Long term support is absolutely crucial. Being Swedish I'm used to having Volvo and Saab parts available pretty much universally and for all time. It's what makes me comfortable driving a 20 year old car. It takes a lot of resources and energy to build any car so with electric cars having less parts needing service it seems wasteful to abandon support after a few years.
@maurice7413
4 ай бұрын
Those old Leaf's had zero battery management. They were basically 1st generation EV's. We are now on 4th generation and there are plenty of EV's that have made it well over 200,000 miles/322,000 km.
@MrBucko1990
4 ай бұрын
A Leaf comes with an 8 year battery warranty so not sure where you’re getting 5 years from….
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
Wrong. An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. An EV powered by home solar eliminates the costs and emissions from the outset. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
@@ViktorSargeThe Chinese owners of Volvo cars cannot be legally compelled to supply new pars for long obsolete cars forever. Business is business.
@smashyrashy
4 ай бұрын
Ireland of all countries is the worst place to own an ev. If i won a free ev and had free charging for life i'd still prefer a petrol or diesel
@valient5
4 ай бұрын
Based on what? Entitled to your opinion of course, but I'd disagree, charge at night when you sleep and you can go 250-300km on anything newer than a gen2 leaf, eg it's 300km to Cork from Dublin and there's plenty of places to charge enroute if needed. Yes EV owners need to actually plan ahead a bit more than diesel, but that's the trade off
@smashyrashy
4 ай бұрын
@valient5 i just dont think the country is properly set up for them. Not everyone lives in dublin or cork, they might have to travel 50 or 60km just to find a public charger, I dont own one so im obviously not an expert but the battery seems to be half the price of the car so if that goes youre in big trouble. A lot of dealers are refusing to take them as a trade in it seems too. There just arent enough positives, maybe if the insurance or tax on them was cheaper it would be something
@valient5
4 ай бұрын
@smashyrashy the main difference you and others might not be considering, is with Electric you no longer need public infrastructure for 90% of most of your charging needs. I've 2 Electrics and only use public charging once or twice a year when driving to the west and back the same day. Its safer for my wife and kids as she doesn't have to leave them in the car to go pay in the garage also. I just saw 4 brand new high power chargers in carrickmines yesterday and there's more popping up everywhere. So your statement is simply not true. Everywhere there's a 3 pin plug, there's a potential charging spot. As the cars improve the time to charge will reduce.
@mellarner8253
4 ай бұрын
@@valient5 Lucky to park on your property, for highly populated areas, apartment blocks and terraced housing does not afford that luxury. Admittedly most of those living there are unlikely to be able to afford an EV, new is too much and secondhand, just a financial liability on the battery as most mass market cars do not warrant the battery after 2 years. EV’s are best suited to lease/PCP as they can be got rid of after 3 years, bit like a phone contract for those who need the latest tech, a disposable item.
@karendarrenmclaren
4 ай бұрын
I actually disagree even though have no idea what situation in Ireland. If it's free, I'll take it
@paulbroderick8438
4 ай бұрын
Bought my Honda Civic del Sol brand new 31 years ago and it still drives well. Yes, plenty of repairs over the years but I have no regrets.
@infiad1275
4 ай бұрын
I used to love those cute cars!
@patomahony9747
4 ай бұрын
Have several old ice vehicles in our family. Reliable and cheap to run. Yes will consider a Toyota self charging hybrid in the future Because the battery’s in them are readily accessible and repairable and I don’t need to stop for hours to plug in Also in my country 90% of electricity is generated by fossil fuels and the 10 % it now seems generated by wind is more polluting than fossil generated because of the huge maintenance in replacement consumables these wind turbines require
@b4ph0m3tdk9
4 ай бұрын
So why did you buy it?
@4drhtrd
4 ай бұрын
ANY TIME the government offers subsidies, it’s best to turn around and RUN. When has any government done anything in the best interest of any taxpayer? EVER.
@craigaustin4779
4 ай бұрын
It is morally unacceptable to let a fool keep his money.
@jamesblair9614
4 ай бұрын
But what about your carbon footprint and the environment? Just joking, there never was any crisis, it was all smoke and mirrors, a lesson learned, get on with your life.
@asamorgan
4 ай бұрын
Great video. Takes balls to admit a mistake. Respect for a man who speaks the truth.
@bigglyguy8429
4 ай бұрын
"....creating.." I thought you were gonna say huge environmental waste, which is what these disposable cars are.
@alexhoffam4170
4 ай бұрын
EV owners should do their research before investing in not so green time bombs.
@redjohn20001
4 ай бұрын
The ev market is going through an unstable time. Two years ago used evs were selling at nearly new prices. In the long term normality will prevail. Petrol and diesel cars have never been a good finacial investment, have they?
@Rambo9700
4 ай бұрын
No car is an investment. They all depreciate. The used car market was very expensive until recently. I’ve recently decided to get a Model Y performance, I was blown away by it. However I’m not purchasing it, I’m getting it on a lease through salary sacrifice. It will cost me the same as my monthly fuel bill of my X5 and includes insurance, tyres and any maintenance or repairs. It was a no brainer.
@michaelangelos5117
4 ай бұрын
I have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 5.2 l V8 that I do all the work on to myself. Paid $3,000 for it with 190,000 miles on it. It runs perfect. Now I've got about $4,000 into it total, and I can do all the repairs. I will easily get it to 300,000 mi, but by then I will have it completely restored and will be thinking about a new rebuilt engine. At that point it will be good for another 300,000 mi. That's how I roll.
@Kingdennissinned
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for being our test subject
@TK-Will.
4 ай бұрын
Some of the younger generation seem to think (when on PCP) that after 3-4 years hire you just get a new one, as the old ones no good anymore. Cars are becoming a throw away item. They’re treated like an old phone….. oohhh look a new one. I must have it now. Then I can “trend” about it.
@michaeledwards8079
4 ай бұрын
that is why I am leasing my EV, list price 8 months ago was £34000, I have just seen one advertised the same year as mine 73 reg for £16500 with modest mileage of 6000 and HPI clear, that is a loss of over 50% in 8 months, EV's are a money pit
@Rambo9700
4 ай бұрын
Most cars are. I’m about to take delivery of a Model Y performance through salary sacrifice. It will cost the same as my monthly fuel bill and also includes tyres, insurance etc. it was a no brainer in that regards. I wouldn’t buy one.
@DJ-yj1vg
4 ай бұрын
At least you're honest with your assessment.
@Odinscrow1962
4 ай бұрын
I think the thing may be is that the nearer you get to 100,000 miles or 8 years with your car, the less likely it would be that someone would buy it for a reasonable price. I think you are right about people keeping them longer - but perhaps that’s what the Authorities want 😱😂
@drgeoffangel5422
4 ай бұрын
The people who buy EV cars or motor bikes, need to understand this simple fact, the battery makes up 75% of the cost of the vehicle, and when its knackered and it will be, and no longer holding a charge, you can throw away the vehicle. Thats why, you never buy a second hand EV, half it's life is over!
@JA-zh5xi
4 ай бұрын
Nothing depreciates faster than an EV because they are worse in every way and most people know that and don’t want them.
@Rambo9700
4 ай бұрын
I’m about to take delivery of a Tesla Model Y performance. It was awesome on a test drive. I’m not buying it, I never would but using a salary sacrifice in work I will get one for the same cost as my fuel bill including in the price is Tyres, insurance etc. it was a no brainer.
@erics2506
4 ай бұрын
Vines are choking out those grand tree in the background , take an axe a cut the vines at the base giving them a chance. Takes years to grow to that size only minutes a year to be maintained. On a other note I really enjoy my electric golf carts have had one for 25 years.
@davidrandall2742
4 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks any ev will hold value at this point isn't thinking, as ev technology is improving so rapidly. I knew that my Chevy Bolt euv wouldn't hold value (new mine was $42,000 in Canada). I love it, and I see it becoming rolling home electricity storage for the house at some point. My Bolt will do 500kms on a charge in the summer, but only 280-300 ish in a Canadian winter -- no heat pump. Charging at home, my cost to drive 41kms today was $1.39.
@severnsea
4 ай бұрын
It's completely fair. We so-called "anti-EV luddites" warned that this would happen, that they were not selling and that people do not want them. I have no empathy with anybody in this situation because you wouldn't listen and knew best. Whether you think the internal combustion engine is dead or not, it has been with us for over a century and The lack of consumer confidence is entirely justified and correct. As they get older and the warranty expires, who is going to spend anything on these in the knowledge that one day the battery is going to need replacing at a cost of tens of thousands of pounds? Which means used EVs are going to be even less popular than new ones, and the older they are the less likely it is that people are going to want them. You can buy a perfectly decent 10-15 year old car for not much money and not have too much a risk of a very expensive repair bill, but that's just not the case with EVs. Batteries will expire, electronics - a weak spot in ICE cars for many years - will also degrade and need replacing, as will the motors if they fail. These things might not be common failures but the point is if they do fail they practically write the car off because of the cost of replacing them. The lack of servicing requirement is a myth too. No new car requires much in the way of repairs but older cars do, and on older EVs that means huge bills so nobody will buy them.
@Ifitwerks
4 ай бұрын
Now that's critical thinking applied correctly, EV buyers don't seem to have heard of it which is odd as its so easy to do! and good antidote to snake oil salesmen preying on the inherent weakness of virtue signalling 🤣
@severnsea
4 ай бұрын
@@Ifitwerks That's the part I don't understand. Basic research will throw up most of the issues but common sense should too. Yet how often do we see videos or posts from people who have regretted buying them because they didn't realise the charging situation was so bad, they expected it to get better, or the range isn't as good as they were told. Why? Car manufacturers have been creative about mpg figures for decades, with some since admitting that their figures were calculated in a testing lab or on a computer simulation, and guess what - you'll never get close to that figure in the real world, so why should they tell the truth about EVs? Yet buyers seem to believe every word they hear and read and will even argue with you until they are blue in the face, often quoting "experience". NOBODY has any meaningful experience or stats because they haven't been around in any number for very long. Sure, the odd Tesla might have done a zillion miles. So has the occasional Morris Minor, Land Rover or Citroen 2CV. But most haven't and like those cars, EVs with high mileage are the exception and given the number that were sold 10 years ago, only represent a tiny, minute percentage anyway. Yet they're treated like the Holy Grail - even if the stories of their mileage are even true to begin with. The truth is we just don't know how this will pan out, but the writing seems to be on the wall already. Most of those who wanted one have bought one, nobody else is interested and sales have plateaued at best, which is what I said would happen 5 years ago. The only thing I was wrong about is it's happened a lot sooner than I expected it to.
@Ifitwerks
3 ай бұрын
@@severnsea The makers who bowed down and the people who got one because it was the "right thing to do" are paying a heavy financial price for it, However that's not the reason for me, I wont entertain the present danger of 800v dc and what I know can happen if things go wrong as a electrician its plain wrong to have this in a moving vehicle, and most will say the same as me if they have seen contact incidents to put it mildly. Steer well clear is my advice! Don't listen to unqualified EV enthusiasts telling you its perfectly safe, the makers know its risks and the government have advisors who also know. Its for the greater good! likely financial but not yours or mine.
@alunchurcher7060
4 ай бұрын
What is the age of the car, as a battery pack will cost any buyer a small fortune after so many years so the age of the vehicle is important. Who want to buy a car then realise the battery pack requires the so spend thousands more just on the battery never mind getting it changed on the vehicle. But when you purchase an EV from new or used consider it like your phone, and disposable once the battery gives up holding enough charge. One more thing you will need to keep in mind is it will cost you to even scrap it, but as scrap dealers will not want them on their plot.
@highboy72
4 ай бұрын
I'm a board member of a credit union in the U.S. We have taken huge losses on 1 or 2 year old Tesla's that have dropped over 50% in value in so short a time that we now require a 50% down payment and at least tier 2 credit. we would rather not finance them at all lf truth be known. the ones that we have had to repo we can't sell for anything close to whats owed on them. we send them to auction and write the rest off. EV's are a joke and a very bad investment. Buy a Jeep wrangler or a chevy truck. they hold value like mad. I own both.
@easydrive3662
4 ай бұрын
Im just sick to death of these EVs, fat, bulbus things with no design or style to them, awful!
@Jeremy-vb6tv
4 ай бұрын
The only 'regret' you mentioned was value depreciation. All cars depreciate in value. Cars are not investments. As you drive them off the lot, their value drops dramatically, then as you put miles on them, their value continues to drop until they become somewhat worthless. This is not just an EV phenomenon, although it may be worse with EV's currently. Driving a new car has always been an expensive way to travel. This is why many people never buy new cars.
@boodew-dp5jn
4 ай бұрын
We all make mistakes.
@teamev1976
4 ай бұрын
A colleague also had so many problems with her EV so she sold it off to trade without telling anyone of its problems. She has now resorted to a petrol vehicle.
@rapalaron6348
4 ай бұрын
All EV's are worthless.....
@SaturdaySportsman
4 ай бұрын
Can't imagine reselling them would be easy. No one has ever wanted to buy used batteries.
@charlesrogers8420
4 ай бұрын
EV fanboys 😂
@efwaves4665
4 ай бұрын
Paying one buck for a BS EV car is already one buck to much. Don’t worry, you aren’t the only one being brainwashed. At least you know better now. Good luck anyway.
@Jdinaz
4 ай бұрын
Whining online... blaming the electric car..when you seem to have no concept of economics or depreciation will probably not earn a lot of sympathy. You bought a USED EV for 19K. The dealer probably paid 12 or 13 for it to sell it to you for 19k. ALL used car prices are coming down (gas and electric) now because economies are bad and dealers can't steal like they could during the pandemic. If you want to play musical cars every 3 years.. then lease.
@Paul_Wetor
4 ай бұрын
I've seen another video where somebody's used EV needs $14,000 for a battery but that was almost the value of the car itself. The ten-year-old car had no value because of the battery situation.
@Baldy444
4 ай бұрын
For new EVs leasing is the answer not buying outright. In 3 years time change for the latest model and tech for your monthly budget
@CrowPal
4 ай бұрын
There are some cruel comments in this thread, but sometimes the truth hurts, and reality dawns painfully. It seems you've already learned what you had to learn from your government leading you down the garden path, so well done, and commiserations.
@mikemccormick8115
4 ай бұрын
I learned this 20 years ago, that Prius, a hybrid but still a partial EV, are highly depreciated after a few years and it was obvious why. I figured everybody knew that and those buying an EV don’t care about resale value. Seems dumb to me to throw money like that around. It’s rough to be born yesterday. “Its not fair.” Wow.
@I_hate_Vegemite
4 ай бұрын
Agree, the Prius (mostly bought as Govt fleet cars in Oz) used to bomb terribly on resale (20-25% @ 3 yrs). 15+ years on the world has changed, Govt Fleet Toyota Camry Hybrids get bought as Taxis and do a reliable 450,000km over 4-5 years. Toyota RAV4 Hybrids are the most keenly sought private vehicles in Australia and the wait for new one stretched to 24 months. Even today you’re likely to sell a top spec 1-year old car for more than you paid for it. Toyota Hybrids are gold. Australia is currently being flooded with cheap Chinese EVs for less than $A40K (£20K). While Chinese long-term quality might be uncertain, they have features, battery capacity and performance to blow away his old Hyundai Ionic and come with a 5-7 year new car warranty. I wouldn’t buy an EV, not because of cost or fear of low resale, but because there won’t be enough charging infrastructure for the rapidly growing fleet. (We have a 2024 Honda CR-V Hybrid as cheapish family hack, couldn’t wait up to 12 months for a RAV-4 Hybrid).
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. An EV powered by home solar eliminates the costs and emissions from the outset. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.
@mariusdarius9116
4 ай бұрын
This happenes to all who buy a car without informating them selfs and after the car is the problem not the buyer, we only know how to complaign
@peteohead
4 ай бұрын
I bought a Tesla m3 RWD outright and if I sold it now, the depreciation hit would be massive. However, I planned on keeping it for 8 years and over that time, the lack of servicing and 2p/mile for electric running costs, plus a lack of VED over the first 4 years, will help offset the purchase price against an ICE car with similar tech, performance and spec.
@ivortoad
4 ай бұрын
Our local Council have Bins for the disposal of Electrical equipment and Bins for old Batteries and CD's. Lol.
@peteohead
4 ай бұрын
@@ivortoad cool story bro
@DeanandLisa1803
4 ай бұрын
Tyres…?
@chrishart8548
4 ай бұрын
@@DeanandLisa1803 didn't say how many miles maybe never needed tyres
@peteohead
4 ай бұрын
@@DeanandLisa1803 Tyres same as electric use at another 2p/mile but they’re no different to an equivalent ICE car, so an equivalent cost, hence why I didn’t mention it
@zhouly
4 ай бұрын
He bought an old model Hyundai Ioniq. Those have a small ~30kWh battery pack and very short range of ~250km. Current EVs have at least 450-500km range. EVs with short driving range have poor resale value.
@Drbettencourt116
4 ай бұрын
Hundreds of thousands people regret buying EVs and are trying to sell them. It's very hard to sell a New EV let alone a Used one. Nobody wants the hassle and inconvenience
@davidreidenberg9941
4 ай бұрын
Funny that I have not experienced the so called inconvenience that you are referring to.
@DavidChadderton-g7d
4 ай бұрын
Who dares to buy a used EV?
@brotherandrew3393
4 ай бұрын
What did you expect? Everybody cpuld know that these kind of problems would await owners of EVs. There is no guarantee to be able to sell such a car after 2-3 years for a reasonable price. So nothing is unfair here. Only unrealistic expectations were not met.
@RobertP7884
4 ай бұрын
feel your pain, i had 3 EVs for about 6yrs, started my EV journey in 2016 with nissan leaf 30kwh, finished in 2022 with MG5 EV estate, luckily when I decided to sell my MG (while chips shortage and price of energy skyrocketed) i was offered good money...i would never thaugt i that I could sell EV after 1.5year of driving with 32k miles done for more than I've paid for it new...not much more but it was about a grand ...this will never happen again as usually soon you buy new you loose thats how it was and how it will be . doue to expensive electricity now (comparing to say 2020/2021 EV journeys are not so economic, as said sold my last EV in 2022 and Im driving old 2004 dirty diesel aluminium body Audi A2 with good mpg ... 10p per mile
@douglas-hughes
4 ай бұрын
Owning a modern volume production automobile is not a conventional financial investment that retains or increases in value and your only expected "benefits" from ownership are utility and pleasure.
@jimsgaragetoys
4 ай бұрын
It's funny because I always keep the cars I buy for a very long time. I make them what I want them to be and by keeping them a long time I also come out much better financially. I'm not interested in an EV but if I did get one I would not buy one as the technology is changing to quickly, I would only lease one.
@tonysantini3885
4 ай бұрын
I can’t possibly imagine anyone w common sense would EVER buy a used EV!
@markg1531
4 ай бұрын
The ev market is not for buyers with common sense.
@schunkelndedschunke6914
4 ай бұрын
Its a normal price for a car that comes out in a time when BEV production starts. The consumption is still one of the best. Cheaper driving is not possible but you are right. The battery size is to low, but all this facts you should know before the deal. If the range fits your needs the car is a dream to drive. For that, why selling it? I pay NOTHING 8 month a year for the power, because I can load my BEV with the power of my solar system. Its pure freedom that I can give a shit of the price rally from petrol gas stations. I never go back to petrol cars. They are loud, stinky and slow in acceleration. All my cars I owned minimum 12 years. I have 7 years or 160.000km full guarantee on my BEV. Any petrol car out there with that guarantee? My last petrol car costs me over 1.000,- a year for repair and service, double the insurance with half the power. By now I drove 60.000km in 2 and 1/2 years with no troubles. No need to change the brake pads, nothing. Only fun every day driving the EV6 AWD. Fossil cars are dead and thats good. No pollution in cities that costs many many lives. The prices of a new technology falling down rapidely, thats normal. Look what the price of BEVs are in China. New batteries are coming out with far better results and they are cheaper, faster to load and safe.
@MrProy33
4 ай бұрын
Maybe you could throw in a box of used duracell AA batteries, you know, to sweeten the deal a bit.
@2quick2come
4 ай бұрын
It was one of the biggest mistakes i have made. I saved no money. After calculation, everything costs the same. Gas or electric.
@TB-up4xi
4 ай бұрын
No EV (or any new car) will save you over an older car. A proper camparison is my 2023 Tesla v the 2019 Audi A4 it replaced. I spent (in $AUD) $26,900 on the Audi over 3 1/2 years & 80k km on services, fuel, brakes & tyres. It cost me $79k and the best I could get (in absolutely immaculate condition) was $39k as a private sale. After 1 year and 27k km my Tesla has cost me $260 in fuel (not a misprint), $0 services, $0 in tyres and brakes (both of which are cheaper and last longer than the Audi), my insurance costs 20% less and the whole car cost me less than $60k new. This is even without adding in the $4k per year my government gives me as a tax break each year on salary packaging the car v petrol. At the end of 8 years, I could replace the battery with a brand new one (not that it would be needed it will las on average over 1.5million km), buy a complete spare battery as a backup, the car could depreciate to $0 and I would still be better off than the Audi.
@Allan-es2hz
4 ай бұрын
Your problem is you bought a "money pit" Audi.
@TB-up4xi
4 ай бұрын
@@Allan-es2hz with fuel at $2 a litre even a base model Corolla would have cost me $10k in fuel alone.
@johnbrown4568
4 ай бұрын
FYI: Plug 🔌 In hybrids rule -> The Peoples Choice 👍👏
@jonathanwebb8307
4 ай бұрын
Its a fairly niche model with a limited following. A large family car with a short range. Also many buyers prefer the security of buying from a dealer when its priced at that level. Having said that, looking at the adds for sale I can see no signs of masive depreciation, they still command a high price on the used market. If you really want to sell it then it will go but you may need to wait quite a while to find the right buyer.
@johnniblueeyes2786
4 ай бұрын
I bought a KIA Carens 1.7crdi in 2016 for 22k Euros.Has 80k miles on it now and apart from scheduled servicing has never been touched.Still worth 10k Euros.Uses 5.7l /100km and can seat 7.I will probably keep it till the wheels fall off.Even though I have solar panels EV`s are only fiscally viable once they come down to realistic prices and battery warranties of 10 years or 200k km.
@jono.pom-downunder
4 ай бұрын
All the monkeys that got free handouts from the Taxpayer should be made to pay back the subsidies if they sell within 5 years. The production emissions, scrapping old vehicles, power station charging emissions for EVs are far higher than the emissions running an older vehicle .
@stuffyourhandle
4 ай бұрын
more money than sense...I bought a 4k car at three years old in 2010 still using it
@Baldy444
4 ай бұрын
Low price 2nd hand EVs is actually a good thing. It wasn't long ago people were moaning that EVs were too expensive
@yggdrasil9039
4 ай бұрын
£14k is about the same as Australia for an Ioniq, around $25-30k Aus. What year is it? Is it the 28kWh battery I'm assuming with 210km range.
@TheZodiacz
4 ай бұрын
Yep, EVs are garbage.
@g0fvt
4 ай бұрын
If I were to sell my ICE car I would make a significant loss, I have owned it less than a year. Unlike the EV it is substantially the same as when I bought it, same range and no part significantly time expired. Not sure how you bought the EV but a dealership has to provide some warranty and you pay a mark up on the price for that. For existing owners of EVs it is not good news that many manufacturers have been price-dropping like crazy in order to sell the cars. Sadly a lot of mudslinging from both sides is not based on anything rational. A favourite from EV proponents is to cite the huge number of moving parts of an ICE engine and transmission. A complete irrelevance, the best of ICE engines and transmissions have a very long working life and rarely randomly fail. The EVs daily punish their steering and suspension components with their huge mass. On the other side of the fence people always quote the price of OEM batteries for the EVs, there are plenty of alternatives, an increasing number of companies "refurbish" battery assemblies at a far more affordable price. Many ICE cars depreciate at a scary rate, the vehicles that are known to be reliable and useful depreciate the least. I did vaguely consider a used Nissan Leaf a while back, unfortunately a short range version with a deteriorated battery, realistically it would have become utterly useless to me within a year or two.
@BobK5
4 ай бұрын
Would you buy that car yourself for 14k with 100k on the clock?
@davidedwards3520
3 ай бұрын
Perfect illustration why you need to research and do the math BEFORE you buy
@Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR
4 ай бұрын
Learn this lesson. If the authorities are telling you something is a good thing to do, do not automatically trust them.
@blackterminal
4 ай бұрын
"I know ill shorten the life of the battery by charging to 100 but ill do it anyway". That says all you need to know.
@HomesteadEngineering
4 ай бұрын
I would probably never buy an EV. But I LOVE my Tesla Model Y. Charge on DIY solar, drive for FREE. Battery expected to last 300k miles.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b
4 ай бұрын
There are many EVs around the world which have travelled 500,000km with their original factory battery packs. The battery packs are designed to last the life of the EV many times over.
@wshyangify
4 ай бұрын
Throwaway iPhone culture extended to cars
@grenenthomas8115
4 ай бұрын
You spent more than you can afford and you blame the car???
@RayNLA
4 ай бұрын
There’s nothing that price can’t fix
@craigwells3655
Ай бұрын
I'm loving that the EV prices are dropping like stone. Poorer folks like me can afford a decent car like the Ioniq, and car dealers are keen to get rid of them. Having no fuel or maintenance costs, virtually, makes me a much more wealthy individual, able to pay off cars and live comfortably. May they continue to drop, cos sooner or later, petrol will be a luxury item, taxed heavily to save our spaces, and the dinosaur wagons will be as rare as horses.
@Cotictimmy
4 ай бұрын
Lucky you didn’t buy a £120,000 car (financed on credit) like Lee the McMaster. Ouch!
@1974Qball
4 ай бұрын
My 4 bed home costed less than that! lol
@mchume65
4 ай бұрын
I'm going to give him credit for admitting his mistake. Many EVangelists are doubling down on being wrong about their decision to buy an EV rather than admit their mistake.
@user-if8wh8wv4u
4 ай бұрын
Diesel-power!!still the best invest.👍
@FreerunMediaService
4 ай бұрын
You would think second hand car companies would love a second hand EV. At least that is what the politicians say so try that and buy back a second hand petrol car. Buying an EV is already a loss when you drive one mile so whatever you can get back from it, is profit.
@ldowling2714
4 ай бұрын
Hybrid is the only way, toyota camry, lexis is300h gs300h etc, timing chain for life, gearbox problems virtually if not non existent and battery gets away from ppf, great warranty and dealership backup and toyota and lexus are long life trouble free investments, keeping the battery cooling system clean and free is essential in any hybrid
@grahamkearnon6682
4 ай бұрын
One problem with today's EV"s is that batteries keep getting lighter, more dense providing more range which means less charger visits. There is already a chinses car with 1000 kilometers per charge so as the Hare & Tortoise race amply demonstrates go low to win!
@mikadavies660
4 ай бұрын
Understand your regret.... Not too sure why you paid 19,000 for an older Hyundai? I can only assume that they sell for different amounts in Ireland
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
4 ай бұрын
This is a very misleading video. In the UK used EV sales are 71% up in Q1 2024 as compared to Q1 2023. No lack of consumer confidence or demand it would seem.
@scottharvey9764
4 ай бұрын
EVs use so much material to make it takes 7 years of ownership to go CO2 neutral & be of any good to the environment hence the advertising standards authority just banned EV manufactures from claming ZERO EMMISIONS in there adverts. So buying 1 with the intention of selling it & getting a replacment in 3 years is just bonkers.
@glennmartin6492
4 ай бұрын
So didn't he know what he'd be paying monthly if he bought the car? Didn't he know the price of fuel?
@roanegaming
4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but someone once told me "There is no cure for stupid".
@ldowling2714
4 ай бұрын
Don't think you are making a fair comment, some people believe just like a covid vaccine, when the government papers media and the dealers sell this concept we see a lot of people now being caught out, yes it's a big lie some of us could see right through it straight away
@adventcliff2040
4 ай бұрын
You bought it. You live with it.
@benellis7427
4 ай бұрын
Sorry but I think you over paid. I bought a 2020 model with 10k miles for £15k (in England).
@billkunert7281
4 ай бұрын
Nobody wants a used battery. Advertise your car for a reasonable price and reduce the price by the cost of a battery replacement.
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