I apologize that this video is mostly just a monologue. This is a gap in my coaching that I couldn't figure out how to present well in a video guide format. The live audience said that the segment was very valuable to them so I took them at their word and decided to put it up on youtube, since it's better than nothing.
@justanotherguy55
10 ай бұрын
Very insightful as always coach! Honestly very enjoyable hearing you discuss the game in this format 💛
@mageferago
10 ай бұрын
I loved this segment 100%, if more stuff like this is made I would appreciate if it's posted as well
@Blue-vd1pb
10 ай бұрын
thank you woohoojin i did not know that w keying towards at an angle was bad /serious and i think that i can now practice not w keying towards corners like in the video because you opened my eys
@RTX_5000
10 ай бұрын
are you korean
@arms300
10 ай бұрын
They were right! This helped me so much going to practice it rn thank you so much hooj!
@fallen0005
10 ай бұрын
I love these types of videos. Just raw information going straight to my brain. If there is another topic similar in nature to this in the future then please don’t hesitate to post a monologue. This was fire. It may not be as attractive to some random viewer scrolling through their suggested but I bet your viewer base loves these.
@KrustyChumBucket
10 ай бұрын
This
@sa1gon1
10 ай бұрын
Also chiming in to say that I love this and would like to see more content that's similar.
@rocketdawg3000
10 ай бұрын
Agreed! This is way above my current skill level, but the knowledge still goes in my brain for future thought and consideration.
@cart8909
10 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie this videos info reached my brain easier than ever, I don't know how but this style of info sharing just reaches a persons mind easier
@thatsaweirdone
8 ай бұрын
As a part of Hooj's viewer base, I can confirm that we like these
@LIRIN0SUKE
10 ай бұрын
As someone who was late at starting to go into the game with a mindset fixed on improving, I have hundred of hours where I wasn't improving on anything. Even if I had no competitive experience in any game and Val is my first shooter, I was literally stuck at bronze-silver (kinda terrible). I felt that the last few hundred hours where I started to go in with a different mindset at understanding the game was when I actually started to get better. But that didn't come without understanding the basic concepts and maps after playing for so long. There is a minimum threshold for sure.
@evilsdoom2606
10 ай бұрын
How did u develop that mindset because i am a raze main and i want to improve my satchels but i can't make myself go into a custom for an hour and actually train them.
@LIRIN0SUKE
10 ай бұрын
@@evilsdoom2606 My problem is a bit different because right now because it's not a certain agent mechanic, but when I was memorizing lineups and setups before, I usually had music on and might even have a friend chatting with me/messing around in the same lobby. It should be fun to practice and improve. I can only speak about what works for me though
@roguemc-j3p
10 ай бұрын
that's exactly what I'm through right now, I think I just need to play more and understand the game (Agents, Guns, Maps, Game senses, etc) I started very late and the very first thing in my mind after playing Valorant for one to two hour is how to improve, especially aiming.
@LIRIN0SUKE
10 ай бұрын
@@roguemc-j3p I'm currently plat 3 with gold aim silver movement🤣 The movement problem is becoming really apparent now since I kept getting put in dia-asc lobbies. If i can tell myself a few months ago something, it's to practice movement.
@cart8909
10 ай бұрын
@@LIRIN0SUKE I'm diamond 1 with plat 2 skills lol, I'm bot fragging in diamond but top fragging with ease in plat 3 and 2
@tigertrac4287
10 ай бұрын
I've been playing a lot of racing sims recently and after taking a break from valo, this started to make a lot more sense to me. Racing is about picking the best racing line. Comparing to valo, lets say im walking towards shower for example, its like picking the correct and most optimal racing line. There's many ways to turn the corner but there's also the BEST way to turn or in this case, get to cover, closing off gunfight angles at the corner and getting ready for the gun fight.
@ericmiranda4339
10 ай бұрын
After watching this channel and being convinced to main an agent, vod review, and aim train daily, I finally reached plat after two years of hard stuck gold
@AutisticWombot
10 ай бұрын
There is hope yet🥺
@warboy4153
9 ай бұрын
I hit plat last night after being hard stuck gold 3 for 4+ acts
@astronebula858
8 ай бұрын
I have been in Iron for 3 years. I have 284.2 hours in this game. I love this game. I want to climb. I need help. Please.
@nori6836
8 ай бұрын
@@astronebula858 learn crosshair placement, play 3dm a day focusing in it and in less than a week u will be out of iron
@X4RILAS
6 ай бұрын
what rank are you now?
@CoachCadeOW
10 ай бұрын
I'm mostly an Overwatch coach but I do sometimes coach friends in Valorant. After I teach them movement, every time they mess it up while I watch them I just yell "NO" and jumpscare them. Fear will keep them in line.
@kanishk77
10 ай бұрын
Hey Woohoojin, I wanted thank you for the awesome VOD reviews you've been dropping on KZitem. Your free content has been a game changer for me. I managed to climb from Plat to Diamond 3 in just one act! After being stuck in plat for 4-5 acts this feels unreal. Your generosity in sharing your insights for free is seriously appreciated. It's made a huge difference in my gameplay, and I can't thank you enough. Keep those videos coming, man. You're making a real impact!❤
@shantanu7244
10 ай бұрын
Hey man, got any tips on how you ranked up. Hit a wall at Plat 2 and I can't seem to climb. Which agent you main and how many games a day?
@kanishk77
10 ай бұрын
@@shantanu7244 Hey there! Check out your game recordings like woohoojin suggested. Even if you felt you played well, watching it again can show you things you could've done better. I noticed I had problems with with my crosshair placement, being too aggressive when I didn't need to be, and pre firing and sometimes not pre aiming. I'm still working on movement. It's hard for me to help without seeing how you play, so maybe watch your own recordings and see if you catch similar mistakes. I play 3-4 games every day, and since I mainly use Reyna, I can't apply for a VOD review for my own matches😢
@BeBopBep1
10 ай бұрын
this is exactly what i needed, i feel like 2 weeks ago there where like 3 pieces to the puzzle missing to get me out of diamond, and this felt like the final piece. another one was in your "Too passive is WAY WORSE than you think" video. i dont think i play too passive all the time, but there are lots of plays that i go for way too often that are. and then finally it was something i discovered when i was talking in the discord, i just need to improve my team play, since i can call for individual pieces of util that i can benefit off of, but thats about it. i can call for a skye flash on an angle that my yoru flashes cant get to as well. but i need to actually call for more than just 1 flash. now i just need to keep consistent about all of this stuff and it should get me to at least ascendant.
@ilventoro
10 ай бұрын
This type of content definitely adds depth to the game which I enjoy the most. Otherwise, Valorant is also a game of pixels, but thinking of these concepts while playing with the pixels adds enjoyment to the game. Please create more content like this. Although VOD reviews definitely help find the certain mistakes but it's mostly situational. This type of content definitely helps everyone who plays the game. Thanks Hooj!
@WillSeegmiller
10 ай бұрын
Would you be able to teach it with a POV of how immortals clear/peek with a complimentary enemy POV avoiding the exact peek you’re doing? You could show the exact thing you were doing but for the “most important” angles on each map like your map guides.
@abhishekak9619
10 ай бұрын
Why is no one commenting on how fast he flicks to the calls while being accurate.
@B5Byrne
10 ай бұрын
Y-Prac prefire maps in CS on settings where the bots basically one tap you help a lot I think, in routing and peeking. some even have path lines on the floor and you can set the bot spawns to be semi-random. Shame theres no workshop in Val.
@ianjohnson8419
10 ай бұрын
The spike plant tutorial comes close. When set to hard the bots can one tap you if your peeks are bad. Unfortunately Ascent B-site is all we get.
@thegodalbert9871
10 ай бұрын
Honestly I sorta caught on to this by watching a lot of your videos and streams. I've started to try to replicate the movement you talked about slowly not as well since I only have 110 hours currently but knowing about stuff like this early on really does help me play better than if i went into this game blindly. Having to think about what the enemy might do or hate is something I still have to work on. love the video helps open my eyes on what i should work on so it can become second nature later on
@phanna9775
10 ай бұрын
"If you're below that rank" I'll be back for this one later
@Bastet12
10 ай бұрын
Woohoojin: "If you are below Diamond- Ascendant rank you are too bad at the game" That guy that's been gold since the game come up: I just started this game, your videos being really helpful, thank you for your effort banana man
@014Darkness
10 ай бұрын
I can see why it's a hours thing, I was stuck in Champ 1 in RL for ages until I started thinking this way, doing what my teammates would like and my opponents would hate, atm it's hard for me to apply the same thing in Valorant because even tho I ranked to Diamond kinda fast I still just have around 120 hours in the game. I wonder if it's actually something teachable, since it's more of a understanding of how people play the game and a mindset. But thank you Hooj as always for providing us with actual good coaching content
@b0yw0nd3r
10 ай бұрын
not gonna name any, but I've watched so many guides and "coaches" in my quest to get good at the game, the only thing that worked was stumbling upon your channel, went bronze to high plat in roughly 2 months after being hardstuck for ACTS not knowing what I'm doing wrong, many thanks Hooj, you're goated!
@bespoke555
10 ай бұрын
I find this vid so funny because before watching this video, 3 weeks ago I remember seeing Curry shift walk peek sometimes to get frags which I thought was so counter intuitive to the most common given Valorant tip which is to never shift walk peek. So I started implementing it in my game and found how shift walking diagonally at the right time would always throw off my enemy’s crosshair placement allowing me to win duels. Since then I’ve been winning my comp matches more consistently went from A2 to A3 and only a few games away from Immortal. So I think a good way of helping people learn this faster is to show pro vods of them shift walking to win duels.
@ky1e443
7 ай бұрын
you know when you watch something and it just clicks. I believe I had one of those moments
@shadowdeath1011
10 ай бұрын
5:10 was definitely me. My two modes were either knife out full send W or constant AD movement with W key movement while in "cover". Gonna practice this now and hopefully become a Valo demon. Thanks great banana Hooj.
@muffinpandas8034
10 ай бұрын
Ahh how I adore Hooj monologues
@3m9ty25
10 ай бұрын
At the beggining of the video where he is talking about thinking how your oppents will move, similar thing happends in fightnig games. You have to get an automatic feel for how your character moves and all the avaliable actions. THEN you watch your opponent and react to what they are doing, almost never wacthing youre own chacter. Maybe training to get an automatic feel for how to move,shoot, and the options avalable to you in valo is the first step to unlocking that "opponent prediction" mindset?
@jekichuu
10 ай бұрын
This video has made me go, "Holy shit, he's right" so many times it astonishes me how big brain this banana is
@MrWhite995
10 ай бұрын
Thank you, even if u think that u cant teach it atm, i found this monologue very informative. This is one of things i was currently tacling as immo1 hardstuck.
@antonsistoso4062
10 ай бұрын
Valorant is my first FPS competitive game and I've been hardstuck in asc 1 for almost a year now. I had been thinking that there was a concept I dont know about that's holding me back from climbing. I think this is what I'm lacking! thanks for the monologue, It gave me a new angle to work from in terms of my improvement.
@crysta1gamerAG
10 ай бұрын
@Woohoojin I think the way id teach solo practice for this is Deathmatch and DM vod review. Have a student play a DM and when thry spawn pick a target from minimap. Then scale towards that spot and take the fight really carefully. During this the mental focus should be on what the enemy will see. Then VOD review, take a few examples where they were caught off guard by someone in front of them and talk about what the enemy saw, and how they could have scaled and been a harder to hit target. That or find some good VODs of radiants or pros scaling and isolate clips of them scaling to make examples of scaling scenarios to study. But the latter is more work intensive on the teachers end, so its really up to how you wanna spend you and your students resources. That would be my approach to speed up the learning of this
@crysta1gamerAG
10 ай бұрын
I was writing out another comment, but you got the exact same concept I was going to bring up. Well structured rant ngl. Im gonna prep some way to share some ideas I learned while studying education in college. I think I can teach you how to come to the correct way to teach this concept and other concepts that are intuitive to the educator. BUT I'm not Radiant in Valorant and don't know for 100% if my fundamentals are strong enough to teach this concept specifically. Ill see you in the backrooms with some short video essay soon most likely.
@MacOSTrash
10 ай бұрын
This might be one of the best pieces of advice I’ve gotten for Val in a very long time. I think I can try to practice this in games and expedite this habit building. I fell from d2 to p2 cause of bad gunfight hygiene but I’m fixing it now and will also incorporate this better positioning and getting into the mind of my opponent.
@Alley-Cat
9 ай бұрын
this is honestly a really high-level breakdown of an OODA-loop. It's something I got familiar with playing other FPS games, and in short, it goes observe, orient, decide, act. It's something that becomes more difficult to scale for newer players because it just requires too much active focus, but with experience and proper awareness it becomes second nature. One of the keys of an ooda-loop in a game like this is not only building your own loops, but predicting the opponents. You point out a bunch of examples where you take in info, quickly orient to the threat, decide, then act. And you do it without having to consciously think because of your experience. Unfortunately, I don't know a great way to scale this up into active advice other than be conscientious in your play, be patient, and build a plan. Once you have that plan you execute it as quickly and as cleanly as you can. Dont panic and abandon the plan, trust it. If it doesn't work or they do something you weren't expecting you can adjust the plan after, use that feedback to make the loop better. People who are really good at this can multitask and predict what multiple opponents in a game are doing at the same time. It's how high level FPS players just know where someone is lurking, peeking, when to push, etc. because they've seen it before, they're planning for it, and they're ready because they know what they'd do in your situation. You mention your history with high level starcraft play - and I think that might help. I know high level FPS players in Destiny essntially run a top-down map of the game in their heads, simulation opponent movement and thinking about where to go, how to get there, and what kind of effect that will have. At any rate, it is a valuable skill and mindset to have - but it's definitely only something that can be built on top of an understanding of the game.
@cogginsnuff
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate a coach admitting something was intuitive and that they didn't have to learn it and don't know how to teach it but is willing to try things and figure it out, god bless. More coaches like this, and less like random ass radiant doods thinking they know how to teach just because they're good.
@41cata
10 ай бұрын
I think this is the best lesson we've got from you. Thanks.
@Lumautis
10 ай бұрын
This is probably one of the most useful vids I have seen in a while. At the beginning when you started explaining. Something clicked for me. THANK YOU just played a game and MVP thanks you again for this. Idk why this didn't click before.
@Gyozaplanet2
10 ай бұрын
I think the problem Hooj is running into is that you really do need a minimum of hours to get the basics on autopilot When someone’s starting Valorant for the first time, there’s so many fundamental things they have to learn and get to be automatic before they can start improving on their meta-game and strategy
@Linialomdil
9 ай бұрын
It's really interesting hearing your mindset and strategy, coming from fighting games. I'm a masters SF6 player, and the "don't do what your opponent wants" muscle is huge in fgs too. I'm learning val with little to no serious fps experience before, and agree that it probably is gonna take me about 300-400 hours before I'm familiar enough with everything in the game for this to be the forefront of my mind. would be interesting to see you take on a fighting game at some point and see how it transfers over there!
@PrecludeLP
10 ай бұрын
To preface, I fully expect, based on what you said in your video, that you already understand what it is that I am about to explain. This is my attempt at explaining to you how to explain it, what to look for in a person that to move into this line of thinking, and where you can find resources to help better understand how to teach this. This is the same concept as a mix-up from Fighting Games. Which, is part of the high level mental game that is actually the real game people are playing at the top level. A player first has to have good foundational knowledge of what constitutes the best choice, or a good choice in most scenarios they find themselves in. Once they have that, they also need to have a well groomed auto pilot. That is, auto piloting the right things, and thinking about the right things. For example, your movement patterns in pursuit of a threat are auto pilot. Your thoughts of how to engage the target, and what they might do are not auto pilot. Once they have all of those things working reasonably in concert, they can they start to devote brain cycles to the mind game. In your example at 14:50. You made a very reasonable guess that your opponent has been previously conditioned, through their previous game experience, to expect a typical Raze Satchel-Ult. That is, animation cancel and just roll in like she owns the place. So, you used that prior "conditioning" to your advantage, and posited that the mix-up of just walking in there normal after the Ultimate call-out would be effective at throwing them off guard. You were correct. If you want to know how to teach this better, then you'll want to look into higher level fighting game content involving "The Mental Game, or Mind games"
@DaMapleSyrupyToast
8 ай бұрын
Holy shit that makes 10000% sense. Just do what the enemy would hate the most. Its so simple yet so effective.
@theslimezapi9000
10 ай бұрын
THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH BANANA MAN
@SmolStuff
8 ай бұрын
wow jin. that actually opened my eyes to the mindset I have for the competitive games I play. I do recognize that this is an a bit of advance mechanic and agree that to be able to develop this more, sense and game hours must be at a certain threshold. Cause, if I'm at a 2nd-3rd lowest rank of a certain game. I won't know shit about "what's the worst nightmare" of my opponents cause I don't know them myself. A lot of base level knowledge is a must...damn I'm gonna go off to research for tft then.
@mageferago
10 ай бұрын
Wow okay I notice I've died in the past by walking straight forward on angles like that, how have I have I never thought to do this before. W video as always Hooj
@mtmartinezz
6 ай бұрын
I wish there were so many more recorded situations of specific aspects or situations, as someone who’s played a good amount of Melee, VOD reviewing using Lunar Melee, a channel on KZitem that has specific combo numbers or specific players with their play styles, is so helpful and can help find optimal combos. Maybe compiling pro footage of site clears can help
@ziqixu4716
10 ай бұрын
Idea to help expedite learning this: Maybe on aimlabs place a dummy on common places people hold, then record the pathing you would take to push that dummy? Like there would literally be cues for which keys to press or even another dummy you can follow to emulate their movement?
@finitetimeonearth
10 ай бұрын
even better: aimlabs has all the valorant maps as template meaning the "only" things left to do would be to place a dummy where the crosshair should be and moving the player accordingly. this would be an easier variation as the player wouldn't need to bother to worry about their movement and instead really learn to understand this concept. only then would I recommend to include movement into the drill.
@tskk_NMSL
10 ай бұрын
thing is moving and gun accuracy is not the same in Aimlab vs Val
@calamity7068
10 ай бұрын
we need more hooj podcast on specific things type videos
@KirbosCorner
10 ай бұрын
the amazing potassium man has helped me rank up, i just need to play more
@jamesdurfee3523
10 ай бұрын
I started following your guides a few months ago when I was bronze. Just hit gold for the first time. Thanks hooj!
@spiritsery1133
10 ай бұрын
I have like 700 hours of ranked in but half of that was me just messing around with friends. Once I actually started trying in competitive I peaked plat in around 300 hours. The banana math checks out
@skeosouvanh
10 ай бұрын
Oh man this makes sense. I always feel anxiety w keying down long lines and just never knew why.
@thishandleistaken1011
10 ай бұрын
Someone in chat: "Can you focus on this in deathmatch?" LOL!!!
@Pigthepig
10 ай бұрын
Really liked the monologue format tbh I don't think there's a need to apologize here. Climbed super fast & then getting sorta stuck in mid/high asc. Definitely something need to work on. Would it be possible to have something like an Aimlabs routine with lines drawn on the ground or something to follow maybe? practicing getting closer to angles while unswinging & then taking perpendicular peeks. Just a thought, not sure how feasible it'd be & I know the last aimlabs routine was a lot of work.
@dwzera1
10 ай бұрын
Just the fact that you've explained it, and gave examples of it might be enough for certain individuals to try and keep track of it or VOD review it as you've suggested. I also have no doubt that you'll find a way to make it even easier to teach
@hanktsui2000
10 ай бұрын
Hey this video helped me contextualize some aspects that I've been doing, and is capable of doing intuitively in my own game play. It's like showing a self-taught musician music theory for the first time. While this video isn't a tutorial, it definitely oriented me to look for this in future vod reviews. So thank you.
@LastLightgg
8 ай бұрын
Late as hell to this, but I've been binging your videos even tho I barely play Valo b/c the way you explain things works independently of context, this video especially. When I was playing Overwatch I was constantly coaching people how to path properly against Junkrat/Pharah versus Soldier/Cassidy. And on the flip side how to control the enemy when you're playing those characters to make the fights favorable. It's incredible how many people will take choke fights versus Junkrat and for what (Hollywood first choke is a super clear example with the car under the arch creating two chokes). All this intuition came to me naturally because I played a ton of League as Lux, a prediction reliant character and similar to you it's taken me a long time to actually formulize these ideas. Maybe I'll make time for Valorant because until watching your videos I thought I was getting aim diff'd constantly. I had okay smoke/util usage but my movement was atrocious and I didn't realize how large of an impact that had on my fights.
@wraith9292
10 ай бұрын
I wanted to get coaching at around gold, but i wasn't playing enough. I had JUST ranked up from s3. I started putting in the work, and within 2 acts i climbed to Diamond 2 JUST by reaching 300 hours playtime. (Of course I also watched the one and only Hooj everyday) Edit: Im diamond 3 now.
@noobsunleashed9703
10 ай бұрын
4:26 can you make it audio as well for those who don't have a 2nd monitor??? :hoojpleading:
@KaleEmAll
10 ай бұрын
To speak on the development of angle preparedness (it's what I call it anyway). There's a concept in tactical situations IRL that military and law enforcement train in all the time where you always keep your eyes ready for the next threat. You never do a "routine walkthrough" and it's the same in valorant. You don't just go "oh there's probably not somebody right here, right now". Every spot you're in is potentially a spot where an enemy can be or will see you from, so you have to constantly find the first major threat to you and cover that with your crosshair. As you gain more information, you may realize "ok where I'm looking is clear, I can ignore this and focus elsewhere" but that means locating the next threat. You never stare at a non-threat point. It's like being in the jungle and staring at the base of a tree rather than scanning for predators.
@Bruhtters
10 ай бұрын
I used to unswing angles diagonally and thought I was bad for using for not AD and so start to AD to upswing which now does result in me walking forwards and now your telling me I was fine in fact better off doing that :( this is why I need a talking banana so I can be sure in my understanding of the nuances like this and get a better idea of what to look for in my game play and how to correct my mistakes ,cheers
@Puskar3k
10 ай бұрын
After seeing your example on breeze I realized I do it intuitively too but never realized.
@Chuchislive
10 ай бұрын
you cannot convince me that your ult made the iso put his crosshair on the wall.
@excel297
10 ай бұрын
Always thought straight angles were just a disadvantage you had to live with, never thought you could compensate for it
@NVikTuh
10 ай бұрын
I would tend to agree with you Hooj, however it's really hard to teach mindfulness. Whether it's in game or out of game it's a pain to teach someone. Thinking of people outside our own little world is hard for a majority of people to pick up without just a lot of time spent working on it which would equate to more hours in game. But like you said, it's a skill so there should be a way to train it, i just have no idea either how you would train someone to be more mindful.
@tashbandicute8368
10 ай бұрын
Thats a really good question, how do you teach anticipation. Experience is required for your anticipation to be accurate, you passively learn game sense over time. Actively thinking about what your opponent wants is a different skill though, like you say you've trained the muscle playing other games, maybe theres a Valorant drill that will help but honestly theres probably other games that can put people in the habit faster. Theres a card game called Coup that rewards being able to recognize behavior patterns and think ahead about what your opponents are planning and what you can do to counter. Something like this might help train that muscle for those diamond/ascendant players who understand the game well enough to make accurate reads on what is good or bad for the other player.
@anorak8934
10 ай бұрын
I actually caught this one live and is the best advice for almost any competitive game. I wish I knew this sooner and being able to read opponents and to do what they dread the most of. I wish I learned this in my league days lol, but that seems like what separates someone who is good at the game mechanically versus someone who can amazing at the game
@wolfsign9168
8 ай бұрын
I learnt this in overwatch as a one trick who sucked at imagining what my enemy would do and applying it by actively studying what other ppl did. idk its not that effective but i would basically literally ask myself 'what do they want and how do i deny it' I was playing support tho so u spend a lot of time focusing on positioning and enemy team, its a lot easier than when ur fighting/clutching. I will deff be trying to apply this in my games. I think a way to help is def watching higher elo players play but thats still just a time sink. Ill be super interested to see what kinds of drills u come up with on this
@yunwoo6878
10 ай бұрын
This is probably the best advice ive ever gotten. I just played two games after watching this and dropped 25 on both in high ascendant.
@ne0nn3on
10 ай бұрын
I was hardstuck in Ascendant on my 3 accounts (granted I don't play that much ranked maybe 30h max per act) but the moment I was recommended Woohoojin vids by a guy from my Uni discord, did his aimroutine and just watched his videos casually while genuinely listening to his reasoning, I broke my 50% winrate streak and ranked up to immo1 within a week. (Granted I used to play high elo CSGO for a long time, so a lot of his pointers come naturally. But I noticed there are some minor differences in these games that actually make a gigantic difference in how you have to think about engagements that I wasn't aware of until finding hooj)
@ihuboo6244
8 ай бұрын
absolutely loved the video, I've always wondered what this skill was about so it was nice seeing atleast tangible examples and the way how you put it into words. It was the biggest mystery to me when I first started val I was like ??? somethings missing.
@saber3689
10 ай бұрын
As a racing game enthusiast, but also as a non-high elo valorant player: I find a very interesting correlation between racing lines (the trajectory you take around a track/corner) and valorant pathing. 1- Acknowledge threat -> Acknowledge the corner 2- Reposition to better your fighting chances -> Reposition to maximize corner speed - Maximize survival chances while repositioning -> Minimize time loss while repositioning 3- Deal with the threat (depends on context) -> Deal with the corner (depends on context) 4- Go to step 1. I hope my thought made at least somewhat sense for non-petrol heads!
@joshuaforyou3
8 ай бұрын
This makes 100% sense. I have analysed TenZ's gameplay, and he does this super well, especially in clutch situations.
@Nephalem0
6 ай бұрын
My only wish is that there were even more weird callouts, like top truck of default. It's very interesting to see how you react depending on the position
@mx.slender_47
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for amazing content for all those years. You are amazing potassium man
@Hello-wo4sx
10 ай бұрын
I loved watching this video because as an imm3 player I know a lot of this instinctively but didn’t completely think about or understand why what I was doing was right, I just learned over time what worked most of the time and what didn’t.
@alvarodeleon9920
7 ай бұрын
I think it would be cool if there was something kinda like geo guesser where you basically guess where the enemy team members are and what angles they are holding after watching a short clip of gameplay. Then you get a score based on the accuracy of the guess you made. This would def help people use info to make educated guesses of what the enemy is doing.
@Toppin5
10 ай бұрын
The perspective lens was actually what propelled me into immortal 3, outside of years of consistent aim training and looking out for my health and mental. I feel like outside of that annoyance factor, It's important to think about how a person approaches an angle and swings an angle to fight you in 1v1s. Then I think it influences the positioning, then to map awareness to add more caveat. The annoyance factor is mostly you understanding how a certain threshold of players think and counteracting it.
@biseln2002
10 ай бұрын
Hey Hooj, @9:45 we only know the positions with 7 pieces in chess. 8 pieces is still a work in progress. Good enough for your point. Just letting you know for accuracy.
@uxnodrog
10 ай бұрын
Speaking of intuition, I’ve realized that I’ve been doing mini-map fragging in a different game long before I knew it was a thing in Valorant. Enemies in the over were too hard to spot, i just used the mini map to aim at the general direction since the game didn’t require much aim anyways
@meep8664
10 ай бұрын
Honestly I struggled with this. I started off gold 3 and got stuck around ascendant 1 at 80 hours. After a while I decided to go look for coaching in order to accelerate my learning, only to get a few tips and tricks and a "play more comp". I didn't understand since my mental was really weak and I'd tilt instantly so I was hardstuck for an episode. After finally reaching your videos and realizing that playing more and VOD reviewing myself despite how cringe my gameplay was the way, I reached immortal around 200 hours. I'm at 240 hours now for comp, with a 76% winrate at immortal 1 (5 stacking though hehe). Sometimes just playing more with a certain mentality is the way! Thanks banana man!
@michaelgabrielgarcia1004
7 ай бұрын
I got 8hrs in this so far AND MY EYES ARE OPENED! So glad I ran into you before developing bad habits 🙏 SUBBED FOR LIFE HOOJ
@chaosknighthd3138
10 ай бұрын
What you are explaining at the start is the intention to peek and clear angles vs scaling up space which are 2 different things. Scaling can be done with utility/teammates to take a better fight than peeking alone right away. You can also just run fast just because you know you can close the gap for free. This means you are always making a read when taking space so having a plan is so important playing a round of valorant. You only learn this by playing with a clear mind and not playing dizzy on autopilot for whatever reason that may be. When things go wrong doing these motions you have to let go of what you were trying to achieve and find a new approach. Sometimes that means just slowing down to a crawl or actually forcing fights earlier than normal. You have to understand why and how that works by reading the field. Your opponents are always locked in habits so you just have to make them lose doing it. Conjure what that player(s) is doing with his op in your head and follow through.
@bronchiel
10 ай бұрын
I've always done this without realizing it, mostly because i visualize the geometry around me and what angles i can min/max to prevent my enemies from putting a few chunks of copper in my skull... just never anticipate the enemy's most likely position, so i either clear every angle, or clear not enough cause my brain gets fried
@BIONauTMate
10 ай бұрын
From other coaches ive heard to go into customs and practice moving around the map in that sort of way to get that movement. As for player awareness. I was talking to some friends and vod reviewing pros seems to be the only answer i could think of on the spot. Like going into a custom and replicating what pros are doing, and breaking down why they do those things. Rather then try to bring a playbook into a comp game. Breaking it down into smaller pieces practicing the right plays on your own. Or what ive done to improve is when watching good players, i would visualize myself in their shoes and try to think ahead on what they do. In football we call those imaginary reps. You dont have the pressure of winning, but youre also not watching for fun, youre watching to get better. As for drills, I cant think of any for awareness mr. Hooj
@Bluefrost37
10 ай бұрын
I thought this was a play on the word valorant rather than Hooj "space" rant, enjoyed this video then, ill be vod reviewing myself and thinking about what id do in the enemy's shoes, thank you hooj!
@Y_RD
10 ай бұрын
the bannana man be coaching his viewers to radiant
@kenj1247
6 ай бұрын
i had that mindset in csgo, before csgo 2, then i stopped playing and i lost it
@MagicMasterComments
10 ай бұрын
This video was indeed valuable for me. I will definitely try to remember this in game
@zepturn
8 ай бұрын
As a top t3 ow player that has played other games to a decent level, the best way I have ever practised this skill is by fight planning overwatch. I think fight planning any game could work but the fast paced nature of ow fight plans really helps develop it quickly. The plans don't need to be varied or detailed they just need to be predicting enemy movement and making a play off that. I think this would be drillable through smth that gives you scenarios of for example val rounds to drill what the best play is knowing all info although I'm sure that it is a lot more cut and dry in val making it less effective imo. If I were to give someone something to prac for this in val id make them going into every round just think about ults and what they want to do with their ults and what to worry about and how to make a play off that. You can then add to that later with thinking about the enemy's util combos and positioning until by the end of it you're checking everything from macro to micro. I'm not sure how useful any of this is or if anyone will see it but just my 2 cents.
@cvd1
10 ай бұрын
This makes sense. I've always wondered how I'm supposed to scale/approach angles when everyone tells me to not peek diagonally. Thanks for the video, that clears my confusion
@tomgentile4850
10 ай бұрын
This is the only video where id really like a keyboard overlay. But thanks for the great video
@ThatOneGuyWhoTalks2Much
10 ай бұрын
Woohoojin has a Woohoojillion hours in Esports
@lexrupus4798
10 ай бұрын
This is an intuition I'm trying to carry over to Valorant from League of Legends. I've played the latter game for severals years and things like anticipating a skillshot, where it lands, when it'll be thrown have become, and which movement to take to best avoid it feels intuitive to me. It just feels natural and liberating doing all of that, while I play my macro without much concern. It's two different games and genres, of course, but it's a concept that I believe can be replicated in any skill-based game.
@CynthiasTTK
10 ай бұрын
One of the best lessons I learned when I started playing TCGs as a kid, was "play your outs to win. Do not play your outs to prevent loss". You need to know how to win, so you can stop your opponent from stopping you to win.
@dxWizardx
10 ай бұрын
This video actually kind of opened my eyes. I'll definitely try think about this stuff while practicing so I can finally get to immortal. (Asc 3 peak but got back down to asc 1 recently. 3 match mvp losses in a row are my last few games..)
@Inevitable_Prophet
10 ай бұрын
In my opinion this mindset is learnt through experience, or "backseating" from someone who has the mindset. "Swing this guy now" then explain why you swing at that timing/bait or whatever the situation may be. I think the reason its so hard to teach is because you the radiant player dont think about this thought process consciously. So the best way i can think of to teach is a live coaching session and tell the player what you would do for each major situation, gunfights, flanking, 1v5, etc. Obviously backseating sucks but to me its the only way I can think of teaching this mindset because there are a gagillion different scenarios and I feel like this is such a high level mindset that you subconsciously develop it.
@Inevitable_Prophet
10 ай бұрын
Another way you can possible teach this is have the player you are reviewing call out what they want to do, not in vc, but just in their recording they should try to explain the reasoning for their movement/peaks, that way they can consciously think about the thought process and you can correct as needed. At least that way you can hear their thoughts.
@hssaugat1589
10 ай бұрын
7:15 As a gold player impressed af. Also, any tips on how to kill a strafing opponent at mid to long range? I strafe and put the crosshair on their head but they immediately move as well so mostly its a chance for me. Do I predict where they will go and put my crosshair there or track their heads and shoot?
@wolfsign9168
8 ай бұрын
i havent been able to play for months and ur dropping these great vids as usual and i gona be so depressed when i come back and suck ass at the game D:
@Rimuno1
10 ай бұрын
Yo Hoojin this helped alot Im plat 2 rn and I thought of this but never knew how to think about it more percisely this helped alot ty
@timmybimmy208
9 ай бұрын
Idk if this is what hooj is tryna teach but I think I usually do it to create more cover for myself, basically unpeeking as much as possible when I wanna push up
@connorlong307
10 ай бұрын
I think a guide on ideal pathing depending on angles would be helpful
@volup1942
10 ай бұрын
Its true. When I had 299 hours I was Iron 3. At 300 hours, I hit Immortal.
@Coeey
10 ай бұрын
I will say it’s a big part of the game . I started thinking like that and shot from d2-asc2 got stuck for an act . Going into this act i have a 75% wr and i’m on my immortal 2 promo . thinking about the enemies and what timing you can catch really helped me rank up. my aim is sub par but my positioning and thinking is what carries me.
@o45032
10 ай бұрын
might be one of the best videos you've put out imo (at least for me), im in asc trying to perfect my fundementals and part of that has been trying to perfect the way I scale up, this really put things into perspective appreciate it i have some low elo friends and i think that's what stresses me out when watching them play, they dont adapt to the enemy at all but that being said im far from perfecting that too
@decksteroussnail
10 ай бұрын
Stepping into an empty server to practice something very deliberate is really hard for players to do. Even in RTS games, stepping into a map with no opponents will teach you more than drilling 2-3 more games of ranked.
@FRIEDTOASTMP4
10 ай бұрын
Man if val had like community tools, this would make the process of creating things for learning easier and in game
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