"i sold it.. but i have it in my hand" what an irony xD
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I had it up on eBay while making the video
@VersatileLifestyle1
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CMedia87
4 жыл бұрын
lol
@molaw8162
4 жыл бұрын
I fell off my chair, the video has almost as many dislikes as it has likes. Maybe Ty shouldn't lie to his subscribers
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why. It’s not like I slander universal audio in the video. I simply explained why I switched audio interfaces and exposed the twin for something people are confused on. The twin can not bypass its pre’s and the id22 can. I even said in the video the twin isn’t a bad interface but people still lost their minds over this video. It was never meant to be like this but oh my god people have an imagination of their own to believe I was just trashing universal audio haha. And all these conspiracy theorists in the comment section saying I never sold my Apollo and I was paid by Audient to do the video make me laugh
@671brayan
4 жыл бұрын
I sold my Apollo as he shows us the Apollo. 😂 Shameless plug: kzitem.info
@newrockorder
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@671brayan
4 жыл бұрын
@@newrockorder read it again lmao
@robbourassaguitarist
3 жыл бұрын
I have an Avalon VT737sp. Great preamp. You can use it with the Apollo. You simply need to use the balanced line out. Run an XLR to 1/4" TRS cable from your balanced line out of the Avalon to the 1/4" line in on the back of the Apollo. The line in will only bypass the mic channel if you use the 1/4" TRS. If you use an XLR, it goes right to the mic channel.
@dannylharper6889
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right!
@dallas-cole
2 жыл бұрын
You damn right
@ILoveTelecasters
9 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure u can only bypass preamps on the rackmount apollo units
@awesomeimpressions
6 ай бұрын
Thx! BTW, I'm old schooI w/no exp with plug ins. I've been using my Rane Mic Pre-Eq into a compressor with unbalanced in & outs. If I want to keep using my Rane mic pre & the compressor with an Apollo (just for the convertors); would you still go mic to pre to compressor, and from the unbalanced line out of the compressor to the trs of the Apollo? Or do compression after the Apollo? So used to external gear and don't have time to learn plug ins right now. Would appreciate your help. Thank You!
@artbremer4076
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds weird. I actually reached out to tech support at Sweetwater about the preamp/bypass issues. They told me that ( by the way I have exactly the same interface) I should connect my WA 273 and Grace Design M101 using only Line inputs on the Apollo. Line does not go through the preamp stage with the gain turned down to zero. And so my Apollo becomes just a converter. Once I connected everything accordingly, I experienced the magic of external preamps. Everything sounded 3d and commercial radio quality. I also connected both of my preamps to another interface straight to the converters - same charm and magic.
@timothymcjury72
4 жыл бұрын
i feel like you would really have to drive the signal. I got to try this now.
@artbremer4076
4 жыл бұрын
@@timothymcjury72 Yes, you'd only wanna drive it with your external pre of choice and don't even think of touching the volume knob on your audio interface... All signal controls are from your preamp now and the interface is just a converter.. btw apollo twin has some really awesome studio grade converters... Unfortunately, TyTheProdigy is getting a little carried away with his pursuit of the perfect sound... He already has ALL the tools and equipment he needs ...Now it's on him to train his ears and learn how to use it... The truth is, if you would give a brilliant engineer this dude's equipment, the engineer will make a commercial grade record out of it... It is really all about how to use the tools once you have the quality gear ( and believe me this comes from my experience with the top engineers the works of whom you hear on the radio) ...And by the way, the most important thing for recording is.....the environment... The Room... This is why all the music we buy sounds so .... factory quality... It's been recorded in impeccable spaces...
@timothymcjury72
4 жыл бұрын
Art Bremer awesome I’m aware my friend I’ve owned this interface since 2017 and its fantastic! I’ve also been recording and mixing for over a decade now and the Apollo interfaces are very clean to my ears anyhow just IMO. The are pretty clear and with unison and the preamps that’s where it’s extremely colored and for good reason. I’ve heard all the best preamps and the Apollo is top grade to date with little to know color if at all without the included preamp models. So take what you will from this video, I agree.Apogee has a new usb interface that rivals this that I heard at namm. Same exact quality’s with the symphony preamps and converters, only problem is it’s 1200 so this apollo is where it’s at as far as value. My question was more of a noise floor issue with not using any preamp gain that I have but very vague I know. I have a focus rite isa but I’ve always just used the Optical out into the Apollo twin with excellent results. But I wanted to try your way for a while now. Thanks for the advice!
@ryanrajagopal2930
4 жыл бұрын
@@crizfms I could be wrong but I believe unless you have an external preamp, you would need to go into the Apollo interface, then out of a line output into the compressor then back into the other input
@TheRealDirtySkillz
3 жыл бұрын
So Art, your structured vocal chain is mic to grace m101, line in to your Apollo for conversion to the PC. So realistically you are relying on your grace to do all the work, mic placement and room treatment. It feels odd that you would have a preamp and a interface that could be a preamp aswell. To me you've added another product in the chain that could be adding distortion no???
@iamzackknight
4 жыл бұрын
You could have run your mic through the line so it doesn’t use the preamp
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
False you can’t truly bypass the preamps on the Apollo. There will always be slight coloration from the Apollo’s preamps
@Rhapsolin
4 жыл бұрын
Wtfff iamzackknight. Idk hoo tf u are but u have a lot of views
@MorfMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions You can bypass the preamp
@eman0828
4 жыл бұрын
Very few interfaces have bypassble mic pre amps became they are marketed towards the *Prosumer* market rather than the profesional market. You are gonna have to step up to more higher end converters if you want to use outboard gear. The Apogees, MOTU, Lynx, RME, Antelope, are geared towards the Professional market that also makes standalone AD/DA line converters without mic pre amps.
@gforsyth4
3 жыл бұрын
I feel you in bypassing the preamps, but going that hard on something like color of pres and wearing a hat between your ears and your headphones is funny. ;) just saying.
@JohannesLabusch
4 жыл бұрын
There are so many other factors influencing your sound that "coloration" from preamps that are turned to 0 gain is negligible. "It's always in my head", you said, and I believe that's in fact the phenomenon you're dealing with here. If you can truly hear that "coloration", you must have some platinum ears. Your Avalon is not exactly a "neutral" preamp either, so I wonder if this purity expectation you have makes a lot of sense.
@thebarcodestv
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you can bypass it on console settings...
@BeauStephenson
4 жыл бұрын
@Adrian R I mean to be fair, it's not true gain bypass on the Twin. The rack units, however, do have true gain bypass. It's negligible coloration, but it's still noticeable.
@cdmv7553
4 жыл бұрын
You can use ADAT. Also yes you can't bypass your correct, however the general consensus from engineers using this device is "Even if they pass through some of the internal preamp circuits, these will be at very low gain levels where transparency will be at its best. Most of the 'coloration' you get with these circuits comes as the gain and 'drive' increases - this will not be happening with line inputs. The Apollo input circuits are very, very clean in any event. I've run a number of outboard preamps into the Twin's line level inputs, and they sound just as they do plugged into any other very neutral input" . So basically, any colouration would be inconceivable to hear, as human hearing could not distinguish the absolute minutest of change from A/D it wouldn't be audible.
@finnjones9187
3 жыл бұрын
According to a service rep from Vintage King if you go into Apollo inputs with a 1/4 inch trs it bypasses the preamp and is just a plain balanced input so I use XLR-TRS cables to connect outboard to the Apollo and I have no issues.
@JordanMeyer
2 жыл бұрын
He lied lol. Only the rack mount units can truly be bypassed. Looks like you wrote this a year ago. Everything still working ? If it’s not blown I’ll feel more confident in doing this too ha. I have an x8p for my studio, and love it so I just bought another Apollo for home, a desktop (twin x) also from vintage king. Then I find out you can’t bypass the preamps on desktop versions… So now I got a UA 710 sitting here not connected because I don’t wanna blow up the Apollo. If you’ve gone a whole year with no issues though , I might take a walk on the wild side.
@godaddy4552
4 жыл бұрын
God doesn't let people whom spend their lives bypassing pre-amps into Heaven, you can hide behind that mic, but God sees everything.
@reekrodriqguez6552
4 жыл бұрын
Same goes for you
@kofiassor2164
3 жыл бұрын
what you been smoking nowadays?
@Onlyonesanta
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BeatsBangcomtv
4 жыл бұрын
Apogee allows you to bypass the preamps on most of their interfaces. I've bypassed both my Duet 2 and Element 24 with a GAP 73 mkIII preamp. Both interfaces are under $600.00
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Oh okay good to know I wasn’t aware. From what I found doing my research, the id22 was one of the few cheap interfaces with greats specs that could bypass its preamps
@rickflippin1
4 жыл бұрын
My apogee element rocks best sound I’ve had yet in recordings
@BeatsBangcomtv
4 жыл бұрын
@@rickflippin1 Absolutely... The Element is just an Ensemble without buttons and lights.The preamps and the ADDA converters are the same. Ppl just couldn't get past the fact that it was software control only.
@outlawedbeats
4 жыл бұрын
@@BeatsBangcomtv agreed, if you can get past no knobs, the quality of the Element is unrivaled in the sub 1000 category
@EM-km8em
3 жыл бұрын
@@BeatsBangcomtv i hAve the duet 2 with the u87 ai… would upgrading to an Apollo twin duo be a noticeable difference in sound quality in vocal recordings ?
@cavie818
4 жыл бұрын
I had the Audient iD14 not bad for the price but I have no external gear. Upgraded to the ML-1 and Apollo twin. Super happy with the results.
@filip2949
2 жыл бұрын
In the end I think it boils down to what you can justify. I just sold my SSL, MPA II along with some other stuff and bought an Apollo Twin X Quad. My previous setup simply took up too much space and was too much of a hassle for my workflow. Sometimes I just want to plug in my guitar and jam to some tracks and the MPA made that process more intricate than I cared for. The Apollo costs a lot of money but it inspires me, it's easy to use, doesn't take up space and it's portable. On top of that I'm not bound by one pre-amp or limited to my computer's processing power. I have never owned nor used a Neve 1073 or any expensive preamps, so there's no point of reference for me to say "It doesn't sound exactly like a 1073..." but what I do know is that is sounds absolutely amazing-money well spent.
@itsadamjosh
4 жыл бұрын
bypass preamp? then switch to line level? lol.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Read the comments and you’ll see the thread where I go over this
@wavyengineering8577
4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@2dboo11
4 жыл бұрын
the apollo twin don't have true bypss even with line in. not with the avalon 737
@musicbymicah
4 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@DaneReidVoiceOver
4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't know what he's talking about. Bypass with line in in the settings. And if he sold it, why does he still have it in his hand. And why didn't he buy a Scarlett if he wanted cheap?
@StephenOrion
4 жыл бұрын
Audient is better than Scarlett for price and performance. I agree with your other points. But audients a good choice
@RayAndre
4 жыл бұрын
Not *true* bypass, I don't think. Still, the signal is so clean, the difference would be negligible
@RayAndre
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct Ty, most of the comments and dislikes have no clue!
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
It is what it is I guess lol
@JaylenMiller318
4 жыл бұрын
You should try the new X series of Apollos. In my studio I get a clean uncolored signal from my outboard gear.
@DJURBANBG
4 жыл бұрын
how do you compare Apollo to Antelope PURE 2 sound quality ?
@shevyjohn9308
2 жыл бұрын
I'm trading my new apollo x6 for the antelope . Better converters on the antelope
@litupav
2 жыл бұрын
My digi design 003 let’s me bypass the pres by running the signal spidf through a apogee Rosetta converter. I use a neve pre and a 1176 compressor before it hits pro tools
@Galdi_
4 жыл бұрын
dont you miss uad dsp for recordings? for reverb delay autotune without latency please answer 🙏
@trunkssims1300
4 жыл бұрын
please answer
@roxblender5763
4 жыл бұрын
I think for most home studios a much better decision would be to sell the outboard preamp and stay with the Apollo. It simply gives you a lot more options and to be honest, most people don't need more than one or two unison plugins, so long term it's probably going to be cheaper as well. By the way, bypass or not, don't be so sure that the iD22 is transparent. The same goes for your cables, your speakers and your ears. I think it boils down to two options: sound good, sounds not so good - that's all that matters in my world.
@notaensilencio
2 жыл бұрын
I USUALLY SAY THE SAME ABOUT APPLE AND ANDROID WITH AUDIO HAHA subscribed just for that
@danielbekteshi8584
4 жыл бұрын
I truly don't understand, i own the neve 1073 and the apollo twin mkii duo and i have the gain set at zero and the gain inthe neve at 50, i have the signal set to line. Doesn't this mean don't color my sound from the apollo but only from the neve?
@dlor99
4 жыл бұрын
Unknown010799 I hope he truly understands now
@Miguel-qe2it
3 жыл бұрын
@@dlor99 still not even 100% sure there’s no coloration from the audient ... doubt it , too, if it’s that cheap. says it himself in video hiding behind that pop filter
@4ACRNM
3 жыл бұрын
Take a sip every time you hear “Bypass the pre amps”
@JayHartMusic
4 жыл бұрын
why didn't you run your outboard gear through the line in using a trs balanced cable? that's how you bypass all the Apollo pres
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too but as it turns out that doesn’t truly bypass the preamps. There’s still very slight coloration from the Apollo pres. If it truly bypassed it on the Twin I totally would have kept it
@LaminarSound
4 жыл бұрын
TyTheProdigy probably something I would verify before dropping $$$. Lol ouch.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
There is no true bypass. That’s said from universal audio themselves
@JayHartMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions damn bro smh
@AV-wz2pv
4 жыл бұрын
TyTheProdigy you’re missing the point. If you go line in like you’re suppose to it doesn’t even hit the mic pres built in the Apollo. They’re right you can’t bypass the mic pre but you can completely avoid it going line in.
@mateoparedes6385
2 жыл бұрын
So many dislikes and I bought the id22 for the same reason, I got your point but it seems that so many people don't. It´s so simple to understand
@thestubbingfamily9399
4 жыл бұрын
Telling every one to do their research about the by passing on UA Apollo Twin then says “he’s not sure” if The interface he got has 100% bypass 🤦♂️
@Billy_bSLAYER
4 жыл бұрын
You could of took any ADAT out device in to the Apollo ADAT and POW preamps bypassed and you can still use effects in console for real-time monitoring.
@Truid
4 жыл бұрын
Dude is just a dummy.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t feel like spending even more money on a quality ADAT device and I never used the plugins since I had all the actual hardware those plugins were emulating. It made more sense to sell off the Apollo and get something like the Audient iD22 which can bypass the preamps and has quality converters. Definitely don’t regret my purchase as I’m getting the best recording quality I ever have
@Truid
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions You really sound like an Audient rep when you repeat the model continuously. The power is not 'getting as close to hardware as possible', but being able to add 15 instances of that hardware across your mix and have it react the same. But what can I say, this is entry level stuff.
@ianfurnell8032
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions You must be extremely wealthy to be able to afford even one of the actual hardware devices they're emulating.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Just saved my money and use some of the tax return to buy it off reverb for more than half off original price. I’m not wealthy by any means just set a goal and raised the money to be able to buy it
@saeedjera8113
4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god.dude you should use the line input when use the external gear.. i think you just needed money😀😀
@musicbymicah
4 жыл бұрын
I listened to an exact A/B of the Audient/Apollo where the engineer recorded a stereo mix into each interface through their preamps. Far and way, the transients from the Apollo were more lively and 3-dimensional than the Audient. I almost bought the Audient, but it just flattened the upper mids of the mix.
@pedrosilvaproductions
2 жыл бұрын
Bet you if you heard them in a blind test you wouldnt be able to tell
@musicbymicah
2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrosilvaproductions that’s exactly what I did. I listened blind and the Apollo had better transients.
@legacyShredder1
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicbymicah Were they both running at the same sample rate? Some interface's have an anti-aliasing filter on the 44.1k and sometimes 48k which lowers the high frequency by a few DB. If running at the best rates there will be no suppression of the high frequencies, because the aliasing filter has been moved way up into the 30k range where we can't hear. Running on 48k the Audient should be near matched to the Apollo on frequency response.
@musicbymicah
2 жыл бұрын
@@legacyShredder1 it’s not a high frequency thing; the mid transients leapt from the speakers from the Apollo track. I believe both were recorded at 44.1k. The Audient’s track sounded good, but the pre’s flattened the upper mids more than the Apollo. I think the Apollo captured and represented the energy in the mids in a more realistic way.
@norakat
4 жыл бұрын
The mic preamps should have a flat response without any "coloration" which it likely does because its UA. If you use an external Mic preamp then you wouldn't use the mic input anyway.
@richcashhempstead4800
4 жыл бұрын
uad makes a 737 as a plugin you should of sold the pre amp im waiting on sweetwater to deliver my twin usb f it
@ConfidenZeTheHumanTorch
4 жыл бұрын
Rich Cash Hempstead it’s amazing
@HennyBoyZoo
4 жыл бұрын
i love how he says after i sold my apollo then proceeds to show us his apollo interface xD how you gunna lie to us like that
@ashtonhealan
3 жыл бұрын
1:00
@John_Kealiinohomoku
4 жыл бұрын
UA has some of the cleanest preamps on the market. This concern is overblown because the amount of color a preamp imparts is directly correlated to the amount of gain being used, and so a preamp set at unity gain (as it would be when you bring a line-level signal into it) is negligibly different from a bypassed preamp (assuming the pre isn't an outright piece of junk)
@djefxTV
4 жыл бұрын
I have a brand new Apollo Twin X and i just switched to PC. I had no clue it was so bad on PC, especially laptops. Im prob gonna be selling mine if anyones interested. Its mint.
@davebelknap3220
4 жыл бұрын
Mackie Big Knob Studio under $240: 2 preamps, 2 non preamp inputs. Big Knob Studio+ under $350: 2 preamps, 4 line level inputs. See also Focusrite See also Steinberger See also...well you get the picture
@attainableaudio4533
4 жыл бұрын
Think the Motu m4 has 2 dedicated line inputs that don't go though the preamps.
@peterpavlonis227
3 жыл бұрын
Any interface with a SPIDF can bypass the preamps. Focusrites under 300 bucks do it. A 100 dollar sound card can do it.
@aubreymcgee8230
3 жыл бұрын
You can bypass the pre-amps in the Apollo interface.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
In the channel strips yes. In the desktop interfaces, no. Is it virtually indistinguishable, probably. That’s why I wasn’t tripping when I used the Apollo solo cause that to be honest was the least of my worries once I seen the subtle difference of bypassing and not bypassing the pres
@legacyShredder1
2 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions The line-in 100% bypasses the preamps.
@PurpleMusicProductions
3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that guitar center has a ton of Apollos in the used gear section for sell.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
🤷♂️
@StaticTeaz
4 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning toward an interface from UAD for live tracking and performance on vocals, bass, and guitar. Slate's VRS8 looks cool but isn't portable enough. Do you know of anything like the Apollo that essentially gets rid of latency yet still offers pro level processing for the aforementioned? I was thinking about the Axe-FX, Kemper, and even Quad Cortex for guitar and bass but none would handle vocals. At least with plugins I can cover all three bases at once.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
the apollo interfaces are world class and from the sounds of what you're wanting, you'd love the apollo. I have nothing bad to say about the apollo interfaces it just made more sense to go with an id22 for my needs
@StaticTeaz
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions How many plugins were you able to run simultaneously for tracking with the Apollo? I realize it will vary but ballpark...
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
@@StaticTeaz I was able to a lot actually. I was able to run multiple instances of preamp plugins (obviously the most DSP internsive) and multiple multiple smaller plugins (la2a, 1176, pultec eq) it really depends on what plugin you use cause some use more DSP than others. safe to say, you should be just fine just be reasonable with what and how many plugins you run at once!
@StaticTeaz
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions Great! That's helpful to know. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@EM-km8em
3 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions i hear apogee still makes better converters than UAD is this true ?
@JamesStMichael
3 жыл бұрын
The Apogee Duet 2 Allows you to bypass the preamps. Tried and TRUE!!!! Best interface under $400
@manuelilic9195
3 жыл бұрын
Because of the corona madness, I thought, you where wearing a black mask, but than I recognise, it is a mic with the pop filter...
@surefmeurope5766
3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@DJURBANBG
4 жыл бұрын
i am looking for a new audio interface and i really want to move level up , now i am using scarlett 2i2 , i heard antelope PURE 2 will give me much better sound quality for mixing and mastering, i am also considering Apollo Twin as a cheaper alternative , but only if the sound good as PURE 2 , is it ? tnx :)
@clemdog76
3 жыл бұрын
Really the best way to pipe analog preamps or channel strip is to get an interface with a word clock or adat, or spdif io. I don’t know if an Avalon has a digital card but a lot of tube preamps have either digital i/o or a slot for which a card can be installed. The issue with Apollo is that it’s really pricey and only simulates analog gear... really it’s nothing like the real thing. You’d be better off even with a budget channel strip with vca or vla compressors, tube pre and variable impedance. If you weren’t on a budget then consider 500 series rack modules for high end ...everything from real neve and api... warm audio, elysia, dbx and the latest greatest digitally controlled vintage circuits from Fredenstein. I really recommend checking his line of stuff out.
@K0sMIC93
4 жыл бұрын
Probably a stupid question but since I'm on the market for a twin I figured I'd ask. You say there's coloration and problems with using external things with the interface. Now do you mean actual physical gear like an external preamp? For example I use Reason 10 for singing and many of it's plugins as well as other ones I've downloaded over time and just run my mic straight through my focusrite 2i4 to my PC with no plans on purchasing an external preamp sorta looking for an all in one solution and heard the preamps on the Apollo twins are great for vocals. Would I run into any issues for my usage scenario?
@adriansanchez4875
4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@ShazammtheProducer
3 жыл бұрын
you look like the son of Wilson from Home Improvement show lol
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
brooo
@eman0828
4 жыл бұрын
I personally would recommend *MOTU* as Motu is really killing the competition right now. I use to own an Audeint ID4, It sounded great but the drivers were horrible and sent it back. I got nothing but clicks and pops. Audient and Focusrite aren't known for making solid drivers like Motu, RME or Lynx. I've owned three different Focusrite interfaces and had Driver problems with all of them. Two of them gave me the BSOD which the Forte and 1st gen Scarlett 18i20. I replaced them with a Motu 828ES and never looked back with super low latency and top notch converters.
@Miguel-qe2it
3 жыл бұрын
Audient ID4 probably not “great” if you got nothing but “clicks and pops”
@Miguel-qe2it
3 жыл бұрын
Btw , how’s the motu 828ES holding up? Any reason why you chose it over the 828x? Are you using thunderbolt or usb?
@eman0828
3 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel-qe2it I had the MOTU since last May. Its rock soild. Something that you just leave in your studio rack and forget about it, that's how reliable it is. The 828x is old now as the 828ES replaced it. The ES has way better converters than the legacy Motu interfaces. I use USB at the moment but plan on switching to Thunderbolt soon as I rebuild my custom machine.
@Miguel-qe2it
3 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 thanks for getting back Eman. Of all these interfaces MOTU seems like the best bang for the buck. Especially since the only issues I’ve heard about were with the pre-thunderbolt era ones(FireWire ones). Thanks again.
@Ast3rixMusic
3 жыл бұрын
I agree the plugins are pricey, but the quality of them is excellent. I have an Apollo 8 and I have made some of the best sounding stuff ever. I think this is about a need. If your plan to buy a lot of outboard gear maybe this one is not a good idea. If you are looking for an all in one and can shell out bucks for 1 or 2 plugins that are useful in your setup then it's cool. I really wonder if UAD sells a lot of units with the pricing of the plugins....
@legacyShredder1
2 жыл бұрын
There are tons of preamps that bypass preamps using the line-in jacks under $1k, including the Apollo Twin. If you're running any line-level output external hardware units you always, ALWAYS, use the line-out from the device into the Audio Interface's Line-In using TRS cables. BTW, Arturia Audiofuse master race.
@Flyboyfin
3 жыл бұрын
I saw you use an Apollo one now, did you decide to go back because of the uad plugins?. I’m trying to decide if I want to get a Apollo, I feel like it will boost my engineering and recording a lot.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
The plugins were definitely a big part for sure
@atlazmix4402
4 жыл бұрын
So you wanted to avoid any coloration from the apollo preamp but you got an audient instead which is a company that tries to recreate Neve sound and color.... hmmm..... interesting. Not to mention you can bypass the preamp on the apollo.
@nucentury08
4 жыл бұрын
This was made before Luna 😎 Love my Apolo with Luna you can now bypass the pres along with a Ton of Top notch things unison is now built into the daw .Check out Luna A Studer A800 and Oxide for every track that uses no DSP or cpu power there 2 insert Slots on every track you create 💪🏽🚀🚀 & So much more. And if I left Apollo it would be for a Fireface RME but no need with Apollo 💯 I hope you new interface works out in my opinion you took a downgrade huge DG but it’s about mix and talent.😎
@kevins5762
4 жыл бұрын
Sold my Fireface for an Apollo, RME is good but I prefer the sound of the UAD stuff, even without the unison pres.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
And that my friends is why I got rid of my Apollo twin
@artv4692
3 жыл бұрын
I had both of those interfaces and the Apollo blew the Audient out of the water. The Audient was barely even able to moderately drive my mic properly.
@samueloluyinkaojomu6548
3 жыл бұрын
Lie
@artv4692
3 жыл бұрын
@@samueloluyinkaojomu6548 Nope. Can show you the receipts of both interfaces and my $3k setup. Have fun with your Audient interface
@samueloluyinkaojomu6548
3 жыл бұрын
You are definitely one of those who believe spending big on gears gives them the best. You are free to feel good after your purchase.
@artv4692
3 жыл бұрын
@@samueloluyinkaojomu6548 You said I was lying. I offered to show proof that I wasn't. You are now backpeddling and saying that I just buy expensive gear to feel good. The Apollo has objectively the better interface. Do your research. Just because you buy less expensive gear doesn't make you right.
@lcdavis6236
Жыл бұрын
I'm keeping mine and yes you can bypass the preamps just do a little research and learn everything about a piece of gear before you speak on it. I know it will take a little time but you will be glad you did and it will save you the time and money of jumping back and fourth from one interface to another and back....
@richardharmon9596
3 жыл бұрын
Well now you have to sell your id22 and purchase the id44 if you want to have better Latency control. Giving up the Thunderbolt 3 you have no choice but to upgrade to the id44
@EMYIOFFICIAL
4 жыл бұрын
"Why I Sold My Apollo Twin After 2 Months"....... - I got broke after buying it.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I guess that’d be a good reason to get rid of it then wouldn’t it
@m9shamalan
2 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about? you switch the inputs to line and they are line inputs. set the line gain to the lowest it goes and do all the gain with the external pre.
@EM-km8em
3 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for vocal recordings ? Im currently using an apogee duet 2 with a naumann u87ai… i was thinking if upgrading to the apollo twin duo mk2 or x would be worth it if i have these already and access to waves plug ins ?
@legacyShredder1
2 жыл бұрын
If you're not tracking through plugins you don't need to upgrade really. I'm not sure when the Apogee duet 2 was released, but if it's getting old I would consider upgrading just to get new hardware for tracking. If you're on a mac with Tunderbolt, the upgrade would be good just for the better latency. Beyond that, most interfaces from $500-1,000 will get you about the same performance out of the on board preamps. Of all the interfaces out there right now I like the Arturia Audiofuse the best. They are the quietest, cleanest, and most powerful preamps I've ever found on board an interface. They also have all the pads, preamp boosts, phase inversion, and channel dedicated phantom power.
@rareview362
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention how it has one knob. I don't know how many times I've almost blown my speakers because the mic was on while I turned the monitors on. Are they trying to make it seem simplistic and easy to use? Sick of this thing.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
lol I've experienced this too many times my guy 😂
@Drewaka
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I am looking for an audio interface to connect it with my external mic preamp, what would you recommend to buy? As i understand there is no so many options(under 500$) to bypass internal preamps
@cinderellabeats5345
4 жыл бұрын
True story. Just sold my UAD Apollo twin duo, Rme is much better .👍
@TrungLe-dw1mm
4 жыл бұрын
How?
@craigcole7930
4 жыл бұрын
Can u help me pls bro, or reply back on how to decrease the buffer size fl studio with Apollo twin x usb. My buffer size in fl from the asio is 64msp (2ms) on apollo but my Focusrite solo does 16msp(1ms)... i got my apollo three days ago and my only reasoning for doing this is bc of the low lantecy and being able to use an effect on it, (as i would have thought) and ik the Apollo is way more powerful then my focursite but so far no luck on figuring out of how to lower the buffer size in the uad console hardware section or in the uad asio for the appollo in fl studio ... I recorded myself today and it went really bad and i was able to hear myself with a slight delay that just really hindered the recording process... if any advice u can give pls reply back🙏🏽
@ANOOPBAL
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a review that is NOT paid by UAD! Thanks for critical review.
@sKyz000
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Scar 2i2 paired with yamaha's hs8 with the hs8s sub, I'am a beatmaker so what do you think is the best for me the Rme Babyface Pro fs or the Apollo Twin?
@Jstall7543
3 жыл бұрын
Man that 737 is $2500! That’s Sick!
@RockmannMusic
3 жыл бұрын
You have a fair point. Now 571 itsy bitsy teenie weenie Apollo Twin owners are a bit butthurt because they don't own an Avalon : )
@nucentury08
3 жыл бұрын
Man I just got the apogee symphony desktop and I’m loving it the new update allows you to run plug-ins directly from the DSP power of the apogee And the plug-in show up on the screen which is touchscreen so if you want to make a print you don’t even need your computer you can print from the symphony and then take it to the computer it is truly the industry standard converter‘s and word clock apogee has always been the standard industry standard😎👌🏾
@EM-km8em
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting the symphony too but idk theres very very little talk about it, and from the people i see have it they don’t seem to think the sound quality is superior to the apollo, do gou have any feedback on this ? Also price seems have.. i currently use an apogee duet 2 and i been thinking of getting wither the Apollo or symphony
@thebeautifulordainedchurch6884
4 жыл бұрын
audient id22 and uad-2 satalite usb sounds good to me.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
That’s actually a really good workaround. You’d get the best of both worlds at that point
@triumphtriumph7765
2 жыл бұрын
Can you bypass preamps on Duet 3? It's been a bit of an issue with Duet 2.Yes Apollo is just too pricey .Was considering the price drop & the Solo.
@saltypancreas5866
3 жыл бұрын
I got the Apollo twin x duo, which plugins for EQ, compressors, de-Esser, Please let me know and elaborate which plugins, u think I would need
@kenney0313
3 жыл бұрын
UA is going to give you their classic & legendary Putnam analog sound characteristics. The sound is highly desired, and it's obvious the bulk of the cost is the processing. They've been making preamps since way way way back! I suppose they included optical input up to 8ch for external & uncolored audio. They've simply found a way to modify character on-demand, but those are fundamentally old school Bill Putnam designed preamps. You saved money, didn't lose quality, and that's always a win-win scenario in this game.
@EM-km8em
3 жыл бұрын
Is this same quality found in the twin duo mk2 or x only ?
@arielelicabe3293
3 жыл бұрын
Hi bro, i’m just searching an interface for exactly this kind of use, basically an A/D converter.. i was planning go for the Twin and this video blown my mind! But then i read too many reviews of a serious heating problem with the id22. Do you has experienced anything like that in this time?
@legacyShredder1
2 жыл бұрын
He is wrong in the video. Use a TRS Jack from your outboard gear into the Apollo line-input, and you will bypass the preamps on the interface. As far as the Id22; tons of outboard gear runs warm. It's no big deal, seriously. Electronics get warm. Electronics that draw in a lot of power without an onboard fan will get warm.
@welcomehomecolumbia4131
4 жыл бұрын
I’m planning on buying uad with hardware should I do it or not ??? I need auto tune in real-time and compression and eq but hardware has a certain sound
@DECIFERTHIS09
7 ай бұрын
You cant just turn phantom power off, if your powering from another pre?
@MikeMicMNR
4 жыл бұрын
I hated my id22 the moment I plugged my mic in it and heard the awful quality. I produced better sound with a Saffire 6usb. Just being realistic (my experience). Will never buy an Audient, ever!
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
Damn bro that’s unfortunate. I’ve been getting great results and lots of compliments on my audio so not sure what went wrong but at least you assessed the matter
@dlor99
4 жыл бұрын
@Mike, your experience sounds like such an anomaly. Either something went wrong or you are using hyperbolic language to illustrate your point.
@MikeMicMNR
4 жыл бұрын
Der Lor everything went wrong with the id22. Maybe I got messed up unit? Either way I hated the quality. Like I said. I got better quality from a Safire usb 6.
@spi-fi_media
4 жыл бұрын
Good move! I just did the opposite motion, using outboard gear with the Apollo Twin. I use an XLR to TRS cable to plug into the Apollo, and it accesses the line level without colouration, plus I can add EQs or Tape Saturation on the way in! I love the ID22, and I almost went for the ID44, and I may still in the future if I deem more inputs necessary. I don't regret the move, but I will say, the ID22 had better converters. I'm definitely paying more gadgets this route!
@garbygarb31
2 жыл бұрын
Trust me.. you're not getting any noticable coloration from the preamps LOL
@MikeBurnsArrangedAccidents
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've got a love/hate relationship with my USB Apollo. It disconnects it's signal from my computer and crashes Pro Tools at really inopportune times in ways my starter converter did not. The on board plugins are too much for it's processor to handle and again, PT freezes when I use them, so I don't. If I need something UAD can give me, I get the Waves 99% as good, cheaper, and far less CPU intensive equivalent. The workaround for your issue is to switch the channel from mic to line and turn line all the way down: driving your gain through your external preamp. Not to sound like Mr. Knowitall : I called UAD to get that workaround. Still, it's got sturdy construction, an elegant interface and I've gotten world class recordings out of it. Found a PC board with a Thunderbolt 3 input so might upgrade to a Apollo X 4 Channel at some point. That should take care of connection issues.
@thesoundmajors9097
4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it with any other daw? ProTools tends to just crash lol
@titua1288
4 жыл бұрын
Thats sounds more like a Pro Tools issue. PT is like a recent born baby, cry for anything at any moment 😅
@orryfishburne5326
3 жыл бұрын
The Presonus Studio 192 u can bypass the preamps on channels 3-8 and it costs 800. Also should mention that channels 3-8 can only bypass the preamps if u use the line in trs jacks
@GilbertoMzD
Жыл бұрын
Can you bypass the Zen Go preamps? Using a preamp (external gear)? Thanks
@TheAerovons
4 жыл бұрын
Unless you are recording solo cello concertos the UAD is not going to "color" your signal to the point of any normal listener noticing. Especially once the drums come in LOL
@RayAndre
4 жыл бұрын
Probably true :)
@litobakzcozykc7616
3 жыл бұрын
I have an Apollo Twin mk2 duo and it gives me so much disconnecting problems, this is so frequent with mac osx users (check the internet), and UAD says its the thunderbolt but it isnt so the problem is unsolved. So, im going to sell it and buy another one... could you recommend me audient or scarlett? I am a electronic music producer, i just need a good quality from the monitoring sound (i just record something very ocassionaly). Thank you!
@josephemanuelloving4653
3 жыл бұрын
Can you help me with my setup? I also have an Apollo twin x but it may be too much for me, I still want good quality. Also may I ask what you mean by outboard or external gear ?
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
I’m meaning a physical compressor, eq, preamp, etc. not a plugin. Physical hardware gives obviously a different sound than a plugin will. Not to say one is better over the other, just different results between the two!
@Adarkjet
4 жыл бұрын
I understand exactly. I use a Grace preamp into a Mytek Stereo 96 ADC. Now I need to figure out a DAC I can trust.
@statisxsavilion2179
4 жыл бұрын
just bought a twin x duo, best purchase i ever made, but im in the box so I see your point
@kofiassor2164
3 жыл бұрын
spl crimson allows you to bypass your preamps. and many users agree it sounds slightly better than the Audient. SPL however does not advertise that much
@artbluevibe6629
3 жыл бұрын
How does a empty box compare to a apollo twin??? We never got to see the actual thing man.
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
that's my bad man. I was recording the audio with it
@artbluevibe6629
3 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSoundProductions it's all good bro lol. I'm in the process of upgrading my computer so it supports thunderbolt 3 , then get a Apollo x8.
@Mark-OutWest
Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says bypass the pre amps.
@Joe8string
3 жыл бұрын
I have a Dell pc with i7 and 8gb ram . I am looking for an audio interface to play my jazz guitar through. As I understand, the apollo is more geared towards mac users. Could you recommend me an audio interface for a pc? I just need a bit of reverb and a warm sound. Thanks
@VictorCaoCA
4 жыл бұрын
I get the outboard gear issue, but I think point of UAD plugins is that you can use software pres like an Avalon or Neve. It's all supposed to be emulated via the real-time processing.
@peacefulwarrior9000
3 жыл бұрын
calm down and record
@umbertofurlan501
3 жыл бұрын
interesting. because i was thinking to buy a new audio device and a mic preamp to increse my overall quality. and i was thinking on buying the apollo twin with a warm sound tb 12 tone beast preamp. but in this case if you say that you have no chance to bypass the preamps its kind of a bummer. audient was my second choice but mabye i have to riconsider it as first. do you agree with what i'm saying?
@LyeraTech2000
4 жыл бұрын
what do you think about the Clarett 4pree? I could never really get the UAD Apollo to work right with reason 9 and above.
@orangemaniabrother2232
4 жыл бұрын
I've got Reason 9.5 and mine arrives tomorrow, what was the problem?
@Viettzz
3 жыл бұрын
Did you use the Apollo Twin with your PC? or a Mac?
@CreativeNotJustYet
4 жыл бұрын
Can you use the Universial Audio plugins with the Audient iDXX?
@UndergroundSoundProductions
4 жыл бұрын
I think you could you’d just need to buy the dsp accelerator. I’m not positive on that so don’t take my word for it
@theboifromspace
4 жыл бұрын
No bruh
@flackotv809
3 жыл бұрын
Random : what camera are u using to record yourself ?
@UndergroundSoundProductions
3 жыл бұрын
🤫
@xxgiants1097
4 жыл бұрын
YO TY, I currently have a shure sm7b, running in to a dbx 286s and scarlett 2i4. I'm looking to upgrade my interface but not sure what to buy. The shure sm7b is a very gain hungry mic so I need something with great pre amps to give me a beautiful sound with low noise. my budget is around $500, I'm williing to go higher if I know it will be worth it. PLEASE HELP!! THANKS
@andrebrown4677
4 жыл бұрын
Audient ID44 Or UAD Apollo X(Duo, Quad or X4) Depending on how many inputs and outputs you need.
@xxgiants1097
4 жыл бұрын
I actually think I'm gonna be going with the babyface pro fs.It's more pricey but the support is amazing and it is known to have very stable drivers that last for years while i saw reviews about audient crapping out@@andrebrown4677
@emceeunderdogrising
3 жыл бұрын
You just saved me a lot of trouble. Bad enough their Windows support is shit. The fact you can't bypass preamps makes no sense to me.
@podespault
3 жыл бұрын
Bypass the preamp.... It's called line level. Which all sound cards have.
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