PR will always hold a special place in my heart but the cold "reality" of it all is PR's specific niche of reasonably easy to access (compared to alternatives back in the day) and somewhat realistic elements are just done better by newer offerings on the market. Which is a sad thing to say really since I don't think the tactical shooter genre is in all that great a spot right now. But on a more positive note Slorgs I am glad to see you're still posting to this channel, thought for a bit there you called it quits on slorgpinions.
@Deadvalley200
Күн бұрын
Still playing PR and don’t have any plans to stop personally
@GastroGoblin
2 күн бұрын
"Dogpisspoo" hell of a combo.
@milosv123344
11 сағат бұрын
I've been playing PR since 2006. I heard somewhere that even if you are right about something, once you react and start complaining, you make things infinitely worse. A self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm tired of seeing people saying "dead game" or the like. In the case of PR thankfully, I'm glad it doesn't work, many have claimed that it was dead over the years yet it's still here. I've seen Hell Let Loose servers going to 80 players after the last round, and as soon as someone says "dead server", it literally starts emptying, don't be a sheep and listen to those people. I agree on the WW2 front, absolutely, they could have used that time in so many ways you have mentioned, i'd also like to add, they could have overhauled the way the firearms look, it's horrid and most of the textures are from 2008's 0.8 update (the same one that added deviation). I do not agree with the point you've made about people only playing PR because they can't afford Squad. I have i9 14900k, 64gb ddr5, rtx 3070 and I STILL will choose PR over Squad any day. It has more maps, more dynamic gameplay, more factions, weapons and content in general. Matches are still way more organized in PR than any round in Squad. When I was younger, I wished for every building to be enterable in PR, now that I play Fallujah for example in Squad, it turned out to be a complete mess. Both because one guy can take out two whole squads, and because it's incredibly difficult for the friendlies to organize in any meaningful way. One other component that people overlook is that, in PR, the servers feel like another home, everyone knows everyone, you know what to expect when you get in, while in Squad there are so many servers, and the rounds are so quick and disorganized, you can't tell left from right. The PR golden days are long gone but little snippets of those times can still be found every now and again, if playing 5 rounds in PR, and only having that moment for a few minutes, it's worth it for me. The golden days were the Tactical Gamer server days, if anyone remembers.
@CMDRGURU951
52 минут бұрын
TG days were so damn good.
@morbo5135
Күн бұрын
I found myself in the same boat some time following the 1.0 release in 2013 - when it went standalone, no longer requiring a copy of BF2 to play. They'd made the deviation much more forgiving, and made rally points much more powerful - where in .97 they were pretty much just a quick way to regroup dead/joining players to the squad while you were out of combat before moving on, they were pretty much mini-fobs in 1.0. Vehicles were made more abundant, with shorter respawns; 100-player servers were starting to become the norm, and the average length of rounds decreased significantly. So, a big influx of new players, with larger max playercounts, and mechanics that did less to reward patience, positioning, teamwork and tactics - more to reward what many would call "rambo" playstyles; vehicles that were disproportionately powerful because losing them barely afforded the opposition any breathing room, gameplay that was overall more fast-paced and attritional, less tactical - which made Insurgency especially just draining, but AAS too. Higher casualty and asset loss rates with the same number of tickets, brought about the end of rounds much quicker, and so made them harder to get invested in. Altogether it resulted in something of an exodus of many of the old boys and consequently, the standard of teamwork and communication diminished significantly, and carried on a long, slow decline - insulated from that as we were in Merk, especially while we had a server. I also tried having another go last month, only to find (or confirm I suppose) it's not the same game I enjoyed back in the day - it seems the devs never did much to reverse those trends. Used to be you could join or start a squad and near on everyone would have mics - crunchy as they were with BF2's VOIP - would be actively communicating and at the very least, more or less all in the same grid on the map. I did have one good round on Grozny with an SL who knew what he was doing, and a squad that was listening to him. We sat defending one point for about half an hour, attacked one, then the round was over. Seems that's become the exception rather than the rule. And unfortunately, it seems that that's true to some degree or another, of all the other games across the genre - Reforger, Squad, HLL etc. I guess it's just the natural consequence of the genre having a larger and presumably younger audience these days.
@Slorgpinions
Күн бұрын
There are definitely issues in all modern games like this of rounds going too quick. That is a complaint I have with squad that the round always seems to end just as it's getting started, but I know squad devs deliberately shortened rounds by reducing tickets so I guess it's what the modern gamer wants
@taco7995
Күн бұрын
@Slorgpinions don't you have to also play the KZitem game of click bate and a catchy thumbnail also depend on what games popular to make KZitem videos on to be Successful on KZitem how much do company's pay for you to sponsor videos??
@morbo5135
Күн бұрын
@@Slorgpinions That's one of the things I do appreciate about ArmA Reforger - it goes on until one side or the other actually wins, controlling all 5 "main" capzones being the victory condition. I remember hearing they're wanting to make all but maybe a few capzones entirely player-determined, sorta like PR's C&C but crossed with AAS. It has its own problems - wouldn't be ArmA otherwise - but a lot of them even in relative terms. The netcode sucks and makes straight-up fights a coin toss - but it gives you way more space, time and room to set up ambushes, minefields, sneaky emplacements etc, and has a logistics system that makes those things meaningful (still a lot of room for improvement there) - so I've been managing to squeeze my own fun out of it in spite of all the jank. The ICO to me is a step in the right direction for Squad - I say, as someone who actually enjoyed PR 0.8's ridiculous deviation in spite of how gamey and abstract it was. The Refractor engine has a weird sense of scale to it, and lacks a certain level of detail (as practically all games do) that made that abstraction necessary to produce the kind of gameplay the core audience and playerbase actually enjoyed. They compromised on it, in order to try and garner wider appeal - but failed to satisfy the core playerbase, or the kinds of players they were trying to attract. A tragic tale as old as time. All by degrees in PR's case, but on a long enough time-scale, well, we see the results now. Post-ICO weapon handling in Squad is that same kind of abstraction and still a necessary one, but also much more believable and intuitive. If they had the minerals to make the same kinds of decisions around other areas of gameplay - ticket count, asset count & respawn rates in particular - it'd be a much more compelling game to me. I hope they find them.
@eltetoPez
Күн бұрын
Totally agree, i have join in games where teams didn't even build fovs
@gunsmith2604
Күн бұрын
i think after HOG died half the community left
@CMDRGURU951
Күн бұрын
The constant DDOS's were definitely a downward spiral for PR. That was a really sad trend to see occur. HOG dying definitely was a nail in the coffin.
@gunsmith2604
Күн бұрын
@@CMDRGURU951 yeah man it really did
@swatbot2611
19 сағат бұрын
HOG died?
@gunsmith2604
19 сағат бұрын
@@swatbot2611 yeah
@RustyBear
12 сағат бұрын
Who’s HOG?
@ramsaybolton9741
Күн бұрын
Project Reality community took a tumble in teamwork, for sure, but if i switch squads, most of the times, i find one that communicates and works together, i never get that experience in SQUAD, no matter what server or squad, theres a lack of communication and teamwork, i don't know why, its common on most servers. Maybe your experience is different because you are a youtuber and they wanna show off, but for the normal player, "teamwork" is not a thing in squad
@CMDRGURU951
Күн бұрын
I've never really felt the PR cohesiveness in Squad, not only as a squad member but also with squads coordinating as a team. It's got the graphics and great sound design, but it has failed in this regard.
@dartagnan1954
22 сағат бұрын
Not all severs are like that You just need to search for a good sever with old players in it and you’ll be all good
@1a_Teko
Күн бұрын
i think the problem start when "squad" start getting better updates
@8alakai8
Күн бұрын
and there is a new pr with bf3
@FriedrichMeier0
Күн бұрын
what updates? the 1 small update per month we get.. nobody is calling out the devs for how shit the new map last year was and how game breaking bugs just sat there for months. its crazy we ask for an optimized map and they spit on us with a map completely surrounded by water.
@crimesquad4935
Күн бұрын
@@FriedrichMeier0 we have game... but we still playing it :D
@dartagnan1954
22 сағат бұрын
Squad is already better
@602west2
Күн бұрын
Yoo its Kill4Kimo I remember this round we got to Papa Four early and just started laying down on you guys once you landed, this round was a lot of fun for me so it’s disappointing to hear.
@CMDRGURU951
Күн бұрын
Beautifully spoken and honest. Outside of the obvious reasons as a content creator for not continuing (even if they did continue to give good updates), I'm in full agreement with you on that one-year waitlist for more drab WW2 content. That was a big sad day for many people. The game and community have most definitely fallen apart immensely, but I think that is just old-age stuff we all knew would eventually happen, we just didn't know exactly what that would look like when it did happen. Though Squad has done fantastic with its game, it seems that it will never truly contain the spirit of PR as a community, unfortunately. There's just something "not as organic" about Squad, and too mil-simy about it in comparison to PR, and Squad is slow (plus, no grappling hook). I love PR forever, it has a place deep in my proverbial heart, but it's dead from its former, more brilliant self that we all knew and loved for so long. Glad you found your vision for making a life from gaming, which you clearly love a ton. You're great at making content, and you do it uniquely and hilariously, leaving me always eager to see your next video. Keep it up, Slorgs.
@rnub6074
Күн бұрын
The community: Your statement on the community being like "a home that you comeback to" is true yet i dont agree with certain aspects. you see, the veterans are the ones that are avoiding the responsibility of leading a squad because most are new players. its our responsibility to create that sense of immersion, players that scream for medic in local, squad leaders that yell orders, battle cries, contact call outs in local while under fire. whenever i lead a bunch of newbies i always end up with a headache, yet they learn and always look forward for the second round. mind you there are language barriers and culture differences that need to be acknowledged. I still love the community new players and old, and i dont think it became oh so negative. PS the other day i accidentally pressed E while flying a full chinook. Noob moments happen and u cant blame that pilot for hitting one pixel, he was flying fine.
@dunkandino321
Күн бұрын
@rnub6074 well said, I think we've been facing this issue for years now, perhaps a tad more drastic now given the decreased volume of English speakers, but overall I think we'll be fine, hopefully atleast
@TheAvererageGamer
Күн бұрын
The biggest thing to me is the lack of an english-speaking player-base. All the OG's have left fir Squad or Arma, and the existing servers suck
@srdosex
Күн бұрын
The game needs updates with new modern warfare maps. Real 4KM maps, not those 4KM ones where 2KM is water. In the Latin American scenario, the servers prefer to run 2KM maps for the most part, the mess is general in the assets part, there is a lack of balance in the Heavy AT kits, nowadays it is fashionable to be bordering on DoD with guided HAT and Manpeds.
@joelsalinas6905
Күн бұрын
Ngl only thing I got was that there’s new people 💀 man y’all cry when the game is dead and when it’s getting new players 😭 man if u don’t be grown n turn your mic on n help them
@axelpalmen5025
Күн бұрын
Is this the famous gen z brainrot?
@joshuagunderson6593
Күн бұрын
I agree with you for the most part bro but this is one of the major issues Milsim games have always had. They’re either dead or you end up with a ton of exposure and they get flooded with new players who don’t really understand them or want to invest the level of time and effort to go all in on the hardcore stuff. I don’t think it’s really an issue with the new people themselves though they’re just new and it takes time to get used to these games. I remember years back when I found PR and ARMA I was the same way. They’ll learn, it just takes a bit of time.
@ramsaybolton9741
Күн бұрын
Quantity ain't quality, thats the problem, a few years ago, when we had 200 players on EU and USA servers, the community was smaller but the quality was far superior, more teamwork, more communication, the newer players just want to be snipers and marksman like the squad videos they see on youtube, don't expect people that want to teamwork, to try and talk to those guys, that don't even have mics, that join the squad for a kit and go to the middle of nowhere, not even close to the objectives, to snipe and even fail to get a single kill
@kapiieek
Күн бұрын
us, PRTR community always welcome newcomers, but the problem behind this is the new generation players tend to be extremely toxic and obnoxiously loud to deal with, always interfering with the gameplay with useless infos and screeching, so we gave up on them at the teaching part.
@joelsalinas6905
Күн бұрын
@@ramsaybolton9741 ofc u aren’t getting quality it’s new players
@Thraakull
Күн бұрын
I have downloaded PR like couple of months ago after seeing that the WWII update was released or something, but denied to play since there is very few servers, and somewhat switched, or rather stayed with Squad - the rhing with tactical shooters is still imho that graphics do not matter, as it is about game mechanics, like I take mic usage, good performance (on low budget PC), player control and gunplay for granted - and last but oh so least is servers, players, and mods, although if a game is tactical enough in vanilla then sure - to sum it up, I still feel like that even Squad, HLL, Squad 44, Arma games are just still not there yet...
@dunkandino321
Күн бұрын
From a monetary standpoint im with you n definitely think that you should prioritize you first, rather than a game which would only inhibit your growth. Its simply a shame that this game isnt more popular or on steam but we as a community have to work with what we have. In regards to the community I think for the most part your spot on, however i would argue that your experience could be effected by the fact that your an english speaker. With the death of hog n the slowing down of u777 ive noticed many english speakers, specifically US n EU players has declined given that their spaces are now taking a dive in population. However taking a trip to the latam servers, i find that, even with my limited Spanish, that core pr gameplay is still alive. They have clans and most if not all bilingual english and spanish speaking vets moved there, which in effect drew more players away from u777 or other english servers. A great deal of this player base for years has been forced to learn english to comply with the most popular servers, it just so happens that this is now the shift the games taken. While its a shame the english speaking community has taken a dip i still feel like its something which can be recovered from, i personally am happy to learn more Spanish if it means continuing to play this game, and seeing the treatment of non english speakers throughout the years its interesting to see they finally have their own space and now have in effect subjected the rest of the community to what they once faced. If this community is set on continuing to grow we must treat new players with patience and kindness and realize this game must suffer periods of lowered collective competency to survive. I remember being new, and i continue to find that after every new update this influx does hinder gameplay, however i tend to find that after a 6 to 9 month period the game returns to its former collective skill base. The core gameplay is still here, and i myself was only introduced introduced to this game because i had no money and a 20 year old pc, however what i found here was and still is special its just up to us to retain these players and make them see the beauty and craft in pr. Pr has always had issues with its player base, whether it be the hog days of admin abuse and more frequent updates dragging in new inexperienced players, or now, we must remember that we ourselves have a part in the future of this game, while it may be hard i find that ditching my preferred play style of assest whore and switching to squadleading, while harder, does foster that communicative and active player base. While ofc the solution is not to have every vet turn into sl mains, i think we just have to be a bit more patience and remember we will always face times like this, and have in the past.
@PetMicrowave
Күн бұрын
Thankyou for your service.
@II_Hylander
Күн бұрын
I started playing PR pretty late around 2014 and have put lots of hours in always coming back after a break. Last time I got addicted was early 2022 and was having a lot of fun I went to have a look a few months ago and there was one euro server now I'm from Aus so I always struggled with ping and I just can't with 300 plus ping.
@Slade-2556
Күн бұрын
As someone who never got the chance to play pr and is interested to play, that really sucks as i would've totally ask for help from any of the og players how to play and genuinely learn and tried my best to be a team player and communicate
@dunkandino321
Күн бұрын
Please just download the game, there are great sl's and asset players still around, it's just more common that rn you'll find more low tier players, if you find me sl'ing your happy to join, there's still a fantastic game here
@PNWukrainian
Күн бұрын
Of course it's all up to you, but I think it would be nice if you uploaded project reality gameplay occasionally. But I'm glad you like squad, that is great too
@santiagorojaspiaggio
Күн бұрын
About the community: Can't you make your own community with your "influence" as a youtuber? Hahaha i mean. Make a Discord group with the people you would like to play and coordinate a certain day per week to play. Or maybe you've tried before, i don't know. But i'm thinking about doing that kind of thing myself, with other games. Even if you don't want to DIRECT the community, you could have someone else do it (someone who wants to), while you just make more people come, with this channel.
@wadestun9268
Күн бұрын
When bf3 reality mod tho
@bikertimmi
Күн бұрын
youtube doesnt show me notifications for this channel for some reason
@guyuscoolius2326
Күн бұрын
the soundtrack got me hyped on the game but playing it seems like a hassle. then having to choose between three closely knitted egyptian, russian and brazilian servers
@arcanesoldierx
2 күн бұрын
PR forever
@dartagnan1954
22 сағат бұрын
It’s out of context but I want to say it Dude you have such a unique voice Every KZitemr dream to have I can listen to you for hours and not get bored Play more games try speaking about game lore review new games Just go for it man
@leonardo-m2524
Күн бұрын
Man i wanted to try some old games and its just hurt me i cant
@robertsloan2877
Күн бұрын
All the squad plebs started playing it.
@Betasatan631
Күн бұрын
I just don't get the drift about playing that game like Call Of Duty. If you have zero interest in communication, WHY would you install this? Can't quite grasp it.
@TacShooter
Күн бұрын
Have you tried Operation Harsh Doorstop, which is intentionally being designed to provide an open source PR experience?
@richgangsta8710
Күн бұрын
Hey man this was a great video and ngl i have to really agree with all of your talking points, as i have stopped playing weeks ago and am not planning to return to the game. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. The community sucks, with two polar extremes. New players with no mic and hardcore "i have played this game before you were born" type of players with a certain sense of entitlement and immense hate towards anyone who doesnt know what they are doing, which is just going to kill this game in the long-term, if we drive off new players by being toxic as fuck. Server administration is retarded and too political and hand out bans like fucking candy. I used to play squad but moved to PR because of the better community and them being more skilled, but with the current state of the game, if i need my fix of tactical mil sim i will just play squad, squad is just better. This game generates no revenue for the devs, its free, it has no future. Squads future is looking bright with new factions, weapons and cas being added soon. I wish you the best in ur youtube career slorgs, god bless and may you prosper, i wont be returning to pr as a seasoned player for a verrrrryyyy long time
@Slorgpinions
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment man, glad I'm not the only one thought maybe I was going crazy there for a minute
@renaldi6210
Күн бұрын
if you guys stumble upon "Renaldi" when you play, that's me
@MrAkurvaeletbe
Күн бұрын
Imo now its up to the players to pull their weight. Veterans stop playing in clan squads with teamspeak, and start playing the game like every other player and help new players become better…. Or you can just stop playing, which is the lazy way.
@eckasas
18 сағат бұрын
the thing is that we still play because our computer cant run any of the new games.. to be honest. I played PR since it got out, If I am gonna play a ww2 shooter with a story ill still got MoH, the first call of duty and some other games where I can shot whermach/SS dudes.
@StefanStefan-uv4cc
Күн бұрын
Also, MUH JABAL AND BIJAR!!!
@joshuagunderson6593
Күн бұрын
Give them time bro. PR has gotten a big bump of exposure recently so you have a flood of new guys who aren’t all that used to Milsim style games. Years back I was the exact same way. I found out about PR and ARMA and was just amazed by them. It took me a good year though to really get used to them. Give it time man. In the end the guys who don’t want to communicate and learn will leave and the ones that do will end up learning the ins and out of the game.
@thiefsleef6752
Күн бұрын
thank you for responding to my comment LOL
@chemiKalz
23 сағат бұрын
Everyone's playing Arma reforger instead i would wager.
@jaybeeonyt
10 сағат бұрын
Project Reality is only as good as the community, a PR game filled with teamwork is unrivaled in any other game. Nowadays you cant even find an english speaking squad and it just kills the game for me.
@kaka09876543210
Күн бұрын
Lol, this video make me want to try PR again.
@bikertimmi
Күн бұрын
this is a comment for the algorithm
@HugTheSub
Күн бұрын
Don't you think it is a bit rich to constantly complain about how RP and Squad players play the game and then never actually SL yourself to try and facilitate the gameplay you want to see?
@elevenknives0
Сағат бұрын
Pr is too old to be covered anyways.
@1a_Teko
Күн бұрын
i get ban for defending palestine in the chat with the excuse of "racism" towards jews
@guyuscoolius2326
Күн бұрын
defending palestine from hippie partygoers and 90 year old commune grannies
@RustyBear
12 сағат бұрын
Yes bc politics don’t matter ik a game bozo
@cartonks.2492
Күн бұрын
PR for ever
@gjdriessen1
Күн бұрын
Time to move on!
@timothypavlick76
Күн бұрын
Why did you stop playing Project Reality?
@famalam943
Күн бұрын
But you only got like 4 videos on the channel
@Redofreko
Күн бұрын
his main channel is slorgs
@Slorgpinions
Күн бұрын
Yeh I shoulda clarified that that's my bad
@TumpsBudGuy
Күн бұрын
I tried playing PR was just met with dickheads who expected me to know literally everything along with hidden rules. Obviously as a community gets older people get lives and move away from games but my initial experience in the game 3 years ago was not good and if you want to keep the game alive you guys should be a bit better to newer people. I just wanted to see where squad came from since I started playing it in 2018 you would have thought i came in there asking about a murdered child when i brought it up.
@r3l4x69
Күн бұрын
Brazilians ruined this game
@danielring8060
Күн бұрын
And the russians
@RustyBear
12 сағат бұрын
@@danielring8060as always ;))
@braylonhankerson9313
Күн бұрын
your voice is rather uninteresting and boring and you rambling about the background work is also unnecessary, I understand it wrapped back up into the topic but people dont care about you but what you put in the title
@kapiieek
Күн бұрын
okay?? if you don't find it interesting then don't watch it. matter of fact i find it interesting. enjoyment and pleasure towards something is a personal developed thing.
@CMDRGURU951
Күн бұрын
I like the mans voice, and enjoyed the full video. I think what you meant to say is "To me, your voice is rather uninteresting......."
@20foradub
Күн бұрын
play squad its the same thing
@ngonzales3781
Күн бұрын
Its not tho
@masterterrorman
Күн бұрын
squad is ass
@wadestun9268
Күн бұрын
He is
@20foradub
Күн бұрын
@@masterterrorman squad has so much more to offer than this shitty ps2 game
@masterterrorman
Күн бұрын
@@20foradub no it really doesn’t. Does it have falklands conflict? Vietnam? Korea? Palestine? Etc does squad even have jets yet lmao
@arlooh_
Күн бұрын
no one gaf bro 😭
@Shakedown1969
Күн бұрын
i do
@CMDRGURU951
Күн бұрын
I do.
@PetMicrowave
Күн бұрын
So latest news everyone, Slorgolate's videos are scriptied😲11:53
@softbreathing4961
18 сағат бұрын
almost all of the old players is getting banned left and right because of some toxic admins I think that is why there's no players that knows what they are doing now
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