The engine in the TCR isn’t the same as the GTI. It’s the Golf R engine, stronger engine and with a bigger turbo.
@NeudinamixSG
Ай бұрын
Yes this is the part driven+ need to correct ✌🏽
@GooNik-l9w
Ай бұрын
Engine is no stronger. Yes, bigger turbo, IS38 vs IS20. Main difference in motors is SAI which is for getting air into the catalytic converter on start up for emissions. Non-consequential differences in strength / power potential.
@Madman568
Ай бұрын
@@GooNik-l9w you don’t know what your talking about. R engine uses different internals also, compression rate is different.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Hey guys, Sorry about the engine mistake. Didn’t realise the TCR used the IS38 turbo instead of the IS20. Thanks for pointing that out. Hope you’re having a good day Max
@GooNik-l9w
Ай бұрын
@@Madman568 Like I said, non-consequential differences when it comes to failure points. How many high HP EA888s have you built?
@jonathonbrett-qn1ic
Ай бұрын
I love the Golf and have had GTIs & R32-R Over the years and if I had to choose it would be the R32 mk4 or mk5 so much character and the sound makes you smile :) Great episode thank you
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment Jonathon! R32 Mk4 for me! Timeless piece
@visionsinblue7093
4 күн бұрын
GTI over R any day. It's the details - red piping and tartan 🥰 Mine's got red-edged black seatbelts too, just to accentuate the sportiness inside 😁
@Birmingham_racing
Ай бұрын
Gti has always been more fun but you can save money but going for the Leon cupra 280 or map a gti that will make about 320bhp
@tubejorrit
Ай бұрын
or map a TCR and get 360bhp.
@andrewjohnston2901
Ай бұрын
but the leon is quite plain but a cheaper option for sure
@kevdavies3445
Ай бұрын
traded up from gti 245 to icr the tcr has been faultless great to drive not seen another i love it
@ThePedroDB
Ай бұрын
Great review - apart from that really irritating 'Elevator Music' playing in the background... 😁
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Note taken - thank you!
@tanner1749
Ай бұрын
@@DrivenPlusI didn’t mind the music but it could definitely be turned down while you’re speaking
@briandesrosiers7272
Ай бұрын
I keep picking the GTI over the R. Of course I get a APR stage 2 tune, which gives 358hp 370 tq in the US. It is a proper blast!
@du3lcitiz3n
Ай бұрын
my APR stage 1 93 Octane Hight Torque tune on my MK8 R has me at 405 HP, 397 TQ. I plan on going Stage 3 in a year. It's my 2nd R, and I've had 3 GTI's. I've loved them all... but R's just get way more looks.
@blam9346
Ай бұрын
@@du3lcitiz3n R is superior in every way.
@du3lcitiz3n
Ай бұрын
@@blam9346 I'm loving mine.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Nice!
@RDriver2.0
Ай бұрын
Had a GTI manual for a few years and loved it such. Such a great little car and it's K03 turbo was super tourqy down low and lateral mobility on the freeway the best I've ever driven. BUT my 17R DSG R hands down is the best Golf that I've ever driven. Love the AWD and how planted the R is at any speed. I'm tuned to 400whp and 437tq on 93 running stage 2 and she's a blast..
@hanzalamehmood2991
Ай бұрын
Team Golf R only because it’s AWD and has more power. Although the FWD GTI can be fun on backroads it’s also less grippy and when you’re talking close to 300hp on wet roads (British weather) you don’t want to risk sliding out
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Good tyres and a LSD, it would be great. But for the UK however, the Golf R makes more sense
@orbytl2799
Ай бұрын
@@DrivenPlus i went from a gti to an R i find the R to be on another level to gti on the twisty A roads i usually drive on when driven hard, i dont get the "more fun" thing tbh never drove a tcr though
@High_Octane_Hero
Ай бұрын
If you live in the countryside the FWD with over 250bhp becomes tiring. This anything with 280bhp (Cupra or TCR) would struggle to get out of any of our junctions and that’s when dry. In the wet you’ll regret not getting AWD/4WD car. That’s the only drawback.
@jamie7tcr777
Ай бұрын
Owned a TCR since September 2019 and have not once regretted when driving in the wet!
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
With good tyres and a LSD, I’m sure you will hardly noticed the difference
@scitec717
Ай бұрын
Guy knows what he's talking about, in the wet AWD is a must and far superior off the junctions, tires and lsd aint going to help you spinning up if you pushing it hard with 300+ bhp, and like he said gets tiring and boring and costly front tires spinning up all the time
@jamie7tcr777
Ай бұрын
@@scitec717 completely agree I'm just saying for me personally having owned one for 4+ years I've not regretted it, and my TCR is running 400ps 😁
@RDriver2.0
Ай бұрын
As much as I loved my GTI in the summer it struggled in snow and rain with traction going up steep hills.
@briancoakley2313
Ай бұрын
I feel it’s unwise to compare both golf’s as that’s all they have in common.. undoubtedly the tcr is probably exciting in certain circumstances but once you drive an R it’s a different ball game on rural B roads where I live . If you go off in a golf it’s going to be big as the golf pulls like a train from the second you put your foot down.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
That’s good way to put it Brian for sure 👍
@briancoakley2313
Ай бұрын
Great review of the TCR by the way 👍
@nigeltomkewycz6172
Ай бұрын
Very nice machine 👌🏼 another great review from Driven+
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks Nigel!
@RSXengineering
Ай бұрын
You missed a point here. The TCR has the IS38 turbo which is superior to the IS20. Much better torque distribution.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out!
@RSXengineering
Ай бұрын
@@DrivenPlus 🫡 Great video keep up the good work!
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it, plenty on its way 😎
@Haroosh20
Ай бұрын
I wanted a manual so ended up with a R but the TCR would be a great option.
@beanburnham01
Ай бұрын
GTI. I’m in the states but I’ve basically recreated the TCR. Not gonna fake badge it though
@slen6293
Ай бұрын
That 0-60 was pretty downhill!
@hassaanawan9606
Ай бұрын
Exactly. Bs 0-60
@gianlucahead5397
Ай бұрын
nice car, but personally like more the design if the newer models
@sc2320
Ай бұрын
better then a standard gti but would go for the gti club sport kidd deffo nice review son 🤛🏻🔥💯💪🏻
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@behindthewheel546
Ай бұрын
I have a tcr, but i prefer my mk7 clubsport drive wise. You should definitely review a clubsport hmu 🤙 and compare both gems
@peterhawker3958
11 сағат бұрын
Had my grey gti tcr for 3 years, brilliant car, holds its residual values.
@keithronson2624
Ай бұрын
Max. Agree! Would sell a " vital organ" for a TCR or Clubsport. As you say will never date. Oh, like a comment below, really not sure about the " bed" music. Your videos don't need it.. Cheers! Have a good week.👍👌
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Hey Keith! Hope you’re doing good! Really enjoyed the TCR, great looking things. Note taken regarding the music. Thanks for you comment! Hope you’re enjoying the weather
@johnosullivan2017
Ай бұрын
Hate torque steer, so sticking with my 7.5R. If you're good with FWD, then yeah, GTI is a lot lighter without the Haldex system.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
7.5 is a great model
@shazyk2666
Ай бұрын
Would it be correct to correct to say gti clubsport 40 manual is overall a better vehicle? 🤔
@Magic_Vince
Ай бұрын
Fun wise: Golf 8R > Golf 8 Clubsport > Golf 7.5 TCR > Golf 7.5 R
@kevn99
Ай бұрын
Glad my sleeper 7.5 gti missed your list.
@tubejorrit
Ай бұрын
Does the TCR also have direct and port injection? I'm a BMW straight six cilinder guy but I've driven a tuned TCR and it was really fun and I wish I had it as a daily.
@Lestergreen77
Ай бұрын
You srsly tested 0-60 downhill 😂
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
-0.7% is hardly downhill
@andrewjohnston2901
Ай бұрын
i went GTI PP to TCR love it dont see many either the R feels quite heavy compaired to a GTI great vlog btw
@RDriver2.0
Ай бұрын
The R is more planted and stable at higher speed compared to the GTI. Plus it's AWD gets it off thr line faster every time.
@billx4266
Ай бұрын
This is the same car as my mk7 clubsport
@alookintoourlife2553
Ай бұрын
Absolute brilliant video mate ... would you say the TCR may be a good investment?
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Thanks! Well new cars are hard to be investments but the TCR will certainly hold its value better than a normal GTI
@alookintoourlife2553
Ай бұрын
@DrivenPlus that's what I'm thinking as I have a 7.5 performance pack and wondering weather to trade it for a tcr
@roberthargrave573
Ай бұрын
prefer the clubsport
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
That’s a great car too
@chroniccrypto75
Ай бұрын
I’d rather my mk6 Ed35 over a mk6 R.
@MfunekoAyanda
Ай бұрын
Gti tcr
@joshua4859
Ай бұрын
So you're telling me if i load a stage 1 tune on my Mk7 GTI ill have a TCR? nice
@paullangley1332
Ай бұрын
It you bought it with performance pack you’d have cup 2 tyres, top speed limited to 165mph not 155mph, 19” wheels, Akrapovic exhaust. You gotta buy with performance pack otherwise the car looks almost like any other GTI.
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Nice! Performance pack definitely seems worth it then definitely
@blam9346
Ай бұрын
The Golf R is always going to be superior to the GTI, no matter how you put it. lol
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
It depends how you defy ‘superior’ As a drivers car, the GTI is the one
@D3nn1s_NL
Ай бұрын
Gti clubsport was faster then the R on the best track in the world, the Nurburgring.
@duncanh997
Күн бұрын
I have just sold my TCR for a Mk8 Golf R. TCR is a fantastic car but the golf R is just better. I could do a whole write up but its not my channel 😉
@TIM612826
Ай бұрын
My mk 7 gti looks better, sorry, bigger and fatter
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Everyone has their own opinion! Mk7 is a great looking car for sure
@fuhrerpolizei86
Ай бұрын
Buying a GTI over a R is the same reason why someone would buy a 718 over the 911 😂😂😂
@DrivenPlus
Ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: 718 drives better 👀
@Magic_Vince
Ай бұрын
718 GTS 4.0 drives better than double the price 911‘s
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