The last time i made a video talking about why Heaven Ascension DIO doesn't beat someone, i got tons of comments saying i was wrong, using points i already debunked within the video itself. Let's see if this happens again lmao Also, shoutout to mediocre productions for some assistance here!
@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6
8 ай бұрын
Great video! I'd like to add that the time stone's time hax are also layered as Doctor Strange was able to affect time in the dark dimension which exists outside of time.
@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543
8 ай бұрын
Based off how he described it, the time stone actively adds time to an area even when it doesn’t have time normally , which I don’t even know how that works. Presumably the same would apply to the other stones if they lacked the aspects of space, power, reality, soul or minds.
@olp3850
8 ай бұрын
@@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543 my guess is that the time stones creates time as well.
@RedBoy747
8 ай бұрын
You made a lot of good points but you forgot one thing about infinity stone. It that they can't work outside their reality this is true in the comics and movies.
@jefeover945
8 ай бұрын
dio still loses
@IHateThisCommunity
8 ай бұрын
In the MCU, they work outside their own universe. They just don’t work in the TVA. What If clearly shows you can use infinity stones in other universes, Infinity Ultron literally does this.
@RedBoy747
8 ай бұрын
@@IHateThisCommunity no he doesn't I remember watching a video on this exacting thing. The guy said ultron is using the stones to power himself which sounds like him having the stones power but it's not because of complicated reasons that are hard to explain. In summary he has the stones infinite power but doesn't have access to their abilities.
@nuzlite
8 ай бұрын
Infinity Ultron literally uses the time stone to slow down time while fighting in another universe
@datfoxguy4273
8 ай бұрын
@@RedBoy747Ye, that guy is wrong. It’s further proven in the second season that the stones work outside their native universe
@Passione_Offical_Channel
8 ай бұрын
Unless some thing about string theory being apart of extend/non mainline JoJoverse I heard about then I assume Infinity Ultron sweeps due to sheer hax and wincon variety.
@Deco1ze
8 ай бұрын
So josuke from part 4 wins?
@datfoxguy4273
8 ай бұрын
All good points but you forget one crucial fact. That being that Infinite Ultron has the intelligence of an acorn. So much so that he was beaten by Supreme Strange, frat boy Thor, and 5 slightly above average people.
@darkwhispersstories47
8 ай бұрын
Strange carried that fight and it was a Strange that consumed parts of interdimensional entities and demons of all sorts for centuries don't downplay that Doctor Strange like that Even then they had to hack in because there was no way to beat Ultron in a fair fight
@mumenrider1908
8 ай бұрын
It was plot armor
@TheUncivilizedNation
8 ай бұрын
Plot Induced Stupidity > The Mind Stone
@CatNimbless
8 ай бұрын
hes literally a super robot
@datfoxguy4273
8 ай бұрын
@@darkwhispersstories47 Even still, the others were way more effective against him than he should’ve let them be, even yoinking the soul stone and devolving the fight into a Scooby Doo chase to get it back. With his power, aside from Strange, they shouldn’t’ve been able to move without Ultron’s permission but he doesn’t use his resources effectively and left himself vulnerable to the most basic assault imaginable. And I take particular issue with Zola being able to hack him. Ultron is an AI made from the mind stone and that inhabits a multiverse spanning hivemind. His digital architecture is centuries more advanced than anything Zola could imagine, and yet he’s utterly defenseless against a human who’s spent the last hundred years in a toaster.
@xboxclown8922
8 ай бұрын
Infinity Ultron can instantly use multiple stones at once. DIO has to punch something or someone to alter it's reality a major difference. Not only that, Infinity Ultron potentially has a ridiculous amount of ways to win the fight. He was a direct threat to the entire multiverse as shown on the show. There's no question Heaven Ascension DIO isn't even close to that insane level of power.
@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats
8 ай бұрын
You can get dio to multiversal
@xboxclown8922
8 ай бұрын
@@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats I don't think that would help.
@Miasma_
8 ай бұрын
This is only a fight so long as they stay within the Marvel dimension in which he got his stones, otherwise they are literal paperweights with no abilities. Dio could then easily defeat Ultron.
@rockstarji21
8 ай бұрын
This is a rule in the comics, not the MCU. Ultron literally fights Watcher in other universes and is stated to be a threat to the multiverse. They don’t work in the TVA because the TVA is special. Not sure how people, still don’t understand this.
@xboxclown8922
8 ай бұрын
@@rockstarji21 Yes the show ignored the famous rule on the stones allowing this particular version of Ultron being way more dangerous than he should've been.
@DantetheSnakeMtgGames
6 күн бұрын
Dio over heaven wins this via being massively faster, ultron caps at ftl
@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats
8 ай бұрын
W vidéo fr
@r.a.s6410
8 ай бұрын
Also want to add that it doesn't matter if the watcher is a 5th dimensional being. Ultron does not scale to him as the watcher was holding back as he was directef not to interfere with thr multiverse other than observing. Which is why he assemed the gaurduans of the multiverse to fight them himself. The World over heaven allready scales above GER, Act 4 and Made in heaven. 3 stands with the power of infinity. As he would still needed to react to act 4s infinite rotation to counter it. Which is still infinite speeds.
@justalonelyman994
8 ай бұрын
Great video man
@DoctorHippo
8 ай бұрын
Good vid 👍
@joegun4259
8 ай бұрын
Im assuming ultron wins edit: hahahahaha
@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats
8 ай бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha
@trevorsamuel1114
8 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha
@dayingnightmare9777
8 ай бұрын
can infinity ultron beat kaguya from naruto?
@Dark-sun-Gwyndolin82
8 ай бұрын
Yes
@joegun4259
8 ай бұрын
Probably ngl
@colvertsolos
8 ай бұрын
You can wank Kaguya to 5D, Infinity Ultron would still no diff.
@masonmcfadden4886
8 ай бұрын
He can neg them
@LesFleurssDuMal
8 ай бұрын
not at all, naruto cosmology is massive and kaguya scales relative to it.
@r.a.s6410
8 ай бұрын
Slide correction I still agree with the outcome but DIO overheaven has infinite time stop
@nuzlite
8 ай бұрын
where is this ever stated?
@r.a.s6410
8 ай бұрын
@@nuzlitehe made the claim against Jotaro during one of their skirmishes that thr longer he uses the TWOH his timestop would become unlimited.
@kristelvidhi5038
5 ай бұрын
Dio means 'God' in Italian🇮🇹.
@bugsnax5595
8 ай бұрын
shoutout to nuzlite, gotta be the prettiest girl
@nuzlite
8 ай бұрын
that is false, because you are the prettiest
@bugsnax5595
8 ай бұрын
@@nuzlite unlikely dear. but love you anyways.
@nuzlite
8 ай бұрын
you tooooooooooooooooooo
@doe-dw9lo
8 ай бұрын
could tell that Dio's getting washed from the first sentence alone
@blueblade6174
8 ай бұрын
You gotta work on your delivery. Try to speak slower and more clearly.
@FearfulDivine
8 ай бұрын
Why is the quality 480p
@dhanyajishin8731
8 ай бұрын
bro uf uu can manipulate reality You could get infinite speed and strenght
@joegun4259
8 ай бұрын
5:09 you do know multiversal is above infinite power, right?
@MKTyphon
8 ай бұрын
Dio would win. Because one touch of the Gaunlet and it gone. And the stones makes it obvious that it his source of his god power. And Dio over Heaven can stop time as long as he wants. But if you want a better reason for Dio winning. Dio has a power of a god, Ultron is borrowing powers from a God. Ultron gods powers are not his own. Dio is would be smart enough to know that weakness. Or Dio could steal Ultron Infinity Gaunlet and use it as his own.
@olp3850
8 ай бұрын
He's going to have to touch him first. Which would be hard considering that ultron can Flippin fly. Sure dio could stop time but ultron can counter it by using his own timestop.
@khulmach9662
8 ай бұрын
@@olp3850 Dio can basically fly, as shown in the anime and Manga with his stand. He is just hovering every now and then.
@olp3850
8 ай бұрын
@@khulmach9662 that's not flying. That's just him punching the ground so hard that it look like he's flying
@xboxclown8922
8 ай бұрын
There's a major problem with that argument, DIO needs to punch something or someone to alter reality. But Infinity Ultron can instantly change it at ease. Virtually no contest who is more dangerous here.
@trollfack2966
4 ай бұрын
Then why did Ultron lose to a Magician, a guy with a hammer, a woman with a hammer, a thief, a dictator, a spy and a lady with a duel sword? I think you are overestimating Ultron
@nuzlite
4 ай бұрын
the people who he was fighting just scale to that level of power. Pretty simple
@ghostops4022
4 ай бұрын
The only main threat was the magician the rest was pretty much just distraction
@Riggy1991
2 ай бұрын
Strange is far more than a 'magician'
@nuzlite
2 ай бұрын
@@Riggy1991 ikr lmao, "guy with a hammer" is literally the god of thunder
@Riggy1991
2 ай бұрын
@nuzlite don't get me wrong I love DIO but too many of his fans consider him to be completely unbeatable
@despertacular3241
8 ай бұрын
Can u power scale humans I feel like that would be a cool also I’m curious how strong we are
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