It’s because of money paid at top level. Every parent thinks their kid is going to be the next F1 driver so they have to have the newest and best equipment for mediocre Johnny to run up front. It’s the same with all professional sports. Top end money motivates. That’s also why the majority of divers are so young. No money or time left in the pot for the dads to just have fun.
@delboy6384
Күн бұрын
Not completely true, I done karting with my son and I never went down that route thinking he's going to be the next F1 driver and theres plenty of parents who are not stupid either. But there is the exceptions, the parents who are mega rich who bleed money out of their arse and there is plenty of them who do believe it and that sets the precedent for other parents to try and give their kids the equipment to keep up.
@bai7200
Күн бұрын
The second FIA got involved it all started going down ward, everything in their mind needs to be focused on F1.
@truantray
23 сағат бұрын
FIA regulated karting from the 70s.
@HoltAircraft
Күн бұрын
I remember when I started karting at 9 years old, it was really my brothers and dads interest, I just wanted to drive practice laps, I hated the racing part because frankly other 9 year olds ruined it for me by crashing into me and getting way too competitive. I loved the driving at that age and if one day I open a kart track I wont have a junior category, I'd start the minimum age at 14 and they would be with the adults but under that they can do untimed track day laps only. I loved the driving but hated being pushed by my dad to be the next NASCAR champion, as I got to 12 and my age group learnt how to not be snotty little shits and actually drive fast then the competition became fun but from a 9 year olds perspective the "Racing" part is hell!
@T00DEEPBLUE
Күн бұрын
It's because the average person in the UK has gotten poorer.
@SRKarting
Күн бұрын
I’ve been karting for 38 years now and both my kids who are 15 are also karting, Costs have gotten so bad recently we haven’t even been to the track once this year in an effort to save money for next year. Practice days have gone up by 50% in the last 2 years at some tracks and I saw Whilton Mill now wants a whopping £75 as a non member for a test day.
@btracing
Күн бұрын
Hear hear, track access indeed went up significantly in the Netherlands too past 3 years. Much more than inflation too. Easy moneygrab.
@coreywhiting6850
Күн бұрын
At least =in the US, I think property taxes and insurance have made it really hard on track owners. The waivers and rules for rental and owner karts have changed alittle bit.
@lmc1dj
Күн бұрын
It's discusting isn't it.
@shanevaughan7809
Күн бұрын
I'm currently doing my research to start karting at the ripe ole age of 46. I couldn't dream of running a 2 stroke with the ridiculous rebuild intervals, thank God 4 stroke karts are a thing where I am. Even then the motor life is bloody ordinary - if people are truly interested in making it affordable why aren't we running detuned motorcycle engines that will do 50,000km or more instead of 75-100hrs.
@lmc1dj
Күн бұрын
Do you live in the uk?. Are you local to A Teamsport venue?. Here's my advice Brother. Join teamsport, get some track time indoors, do some outdoor stuff, then when you know your level look at Ckub 100!. Thank me later. Ps-your never too old. Good luck.
@ChickenboneJohn
4 сағат бұрын
I got back into karting some time ago, and 4 stroke prokarts at non MSA tracks is what I ended up doing. I knew a fair bit about karting as I'd got into it in my teens a long time ago, though I never raced...this was back in the the day of direct drive air-cooled motors and no bodywork..and also the Class IV Villiers gearbox class. In my 50s I did a couple of seasons racing before I gave it up as my business had got too demanding on my time for me to be able to spend my spare time enjoying myself racing. I bought a cheap 2nd hand machine and spent very little money - with standardised sealed motors, it meant the only real running costs were fuel and consumables such as tyres, and the odd chain and clutch etc. It wasn't cutting edge fast, but it was informal and fun.
@dannywhite132
Күн бұрын
The complexity of karting has sky rocketed and with that the costs. Big supporter of sealed engine classes, where it comes down to driver, not buying 20 engines and choosing the best one for each track. But then you get the bambino problem, with people paying £5000 for a chainsaw engine because on the dyno it had 0.5 hp more than its competitors
@tomtom3195.
Күн бұрын
I've recently moved over to racing TKM 115 in the Access Karting paddock. They have an ethos for affordable UK karting and the paddock is growing massively!
@grubbymangomotorsport3992
Күн бұрын
Yeaaaaa
@AlexVangeenRacing
Күн бұрын
It’s been amazing. The GXUK class has 30 karts and you can do a whole season including buying the kart for 3-4k
@lamzy.on.n64
Күн бұрын
another thing to note as well is demand for example, in my neck of the woods (atlantic canada), karting isnt very popular because of this, many karts that do end up for sale either arent up to race spec (yard kart) or are very pricy. due to the low demand, prices go up. i saw a ~2009 crg lo206 kart for 3.5k cad, or 1938 pounds, which doesnt sound like a lot but if im not mistaken our minimum wage is lower than gbr another thing to note as well is that here, most of the population is elderly. this means that theres a lack of young talent supporting the sport at the moment most people here haven't even heard of karting, its usually either oval or motocross if i said anything wrong can someone correct me? thanks. this is just from what i am aware of.
@dustykh
Күн бұрын
Lower demand doesn't create higher prices. Ever.
@MrMonzaman
Күн бұрын
Good video, you forget one very important aspect IMHO. The sheer number of very wealthy kids in the sport who all, as your rightly point out, aim at F1 will have a VERY profound impact on F3 and F2 because these series have a limited number of race seats. If demand and supply will drive prices, which I believe they will, the cost at that level will go up by multiples.
@kartaroundtheworld
Күн бұрын
I could write a 20 pages essay about things that does not make sense, but I will give a couple of examples of things that are ridiculous One OTK Nassau panel costs 210 Euros. Probably the cost of the material to produce is around 20 euros. One Rotax anti vibration rubber for the battery costs 23 euros. The cost of material is probably 1 Euro. I get that there’s the cost of R&D, marketing, homologation, etc etc etc, but these prices are an extortion. KG sells a very good quality Nassau Panel for 30 Euros. Why the big brands have to overcharge the spare parts so much? Why to make so difficult for the limited budget drivers to buy the spare parts ?
@jstefa2
Күн бұрын
because they can. same reason why people pay 2000 dollars for a phone or 3500 dollars for a graphics card. because they can. the world has become an experiment by how much they an fleece people. and people just keep buying. i say fleece them. for you... buy a 30 dollar part. screw expensive spares.
@pachakutimundi6813
Күн бұрын
Do you refer to the KG Nassau panel that has a retro style? The cheapest with aero is the KR one at 70 or so euros
@kartaroundtheworld
Күн бұрын
@@pachakutimundi6813 the KG 507 (without aero) costs 36 euros at Mondokart. I doubt the aero brings you more than 0.0001 a lap, but that's not my point. The point is that there are parts that are overcharged just because it's from a famous brand or because it looks "cool"
@kartaroundtheworld
Күн бұрын
@@pachakutimundi6813 and 220 euros to 70 euros it's stil a huge difference ...
@pachakutimundi6813
Күн бұрын
@@kartaroundtheworld thanks, I thought that panel was for the Mini karts. Yeah the price is a huge difference. Even my older brother doesn't remember anymore how much was the M6 bodywork 😅
@lexusuk7901
Күн бұрын
My issue is logistics. I want to run in BPEC prokart and can afford the kart and the kit for pits to run the kart. It's the trailer / van and the storage of it that is my issue. That's a big additional cost and takes up a lot of space I don't have. Additionally, where I live we have quite a few people with MX bikes with vans and trailers and they are CONSTANTLY burgled. Could race with a team but that's an expensive game also. No routes in.
@amraceway
Күн бұрын
I like the old style karts with skinny wheels and a more upright seating position. Things are as expensive as you want to make them. Karts actually should be getting cheaper.
@shooter7a
Күн бұрын
The expense of karting has always been relative. How does it compare to full size car racing? It is a LOT cheaper.
@jdubz22
Күн бұрын
Any sport where someone can outspend others to get an advantage will always have a spiralling costs.
@johncrow5552
9 сағат бұрын
go back to hard durable tires. Not only will that lower costs on tires, it will also lower the drive to get every last hp out of the engine.
@HTOP1982
15 сағат бұрын
I started racing as an adult, to het away from sitting in front of computers all day. Luckily there as a strong LO206 class there, ages between 16 and 70. A while season of 12 races cost me about 1000GBP, all in. Lower power = more tyre life. I could race about 4 to 6 weekends with a set of tyres. No meed for rebuilds. We all raced older reused chassis. Eliminate the kids, and the class becomes cheaper. It's the ones that think their kids must have the talent t for F1, no matter what that drive prices upwards. I wish there was the same rule as in Folk racing, where any competitor can forcibly buy your kart for a set price, and you can not refuse.
@lmc1dj
Күн бұрын
Great video. I think entry into Teamsport is fair, once you become a member, yes the parity in karts can be very up n down, however, members nights can be fun,and I feel gaining confidence here then gives you the confidence to do outdoor, once you have done a few outdoor events and realise if you have a talent defiantly look at Club 100, or the NRKL. There are lots of things going on in rental karting which is booming. Good luck to everyone on your journey if just setting out. Expensive hobby?, is it worth it. Fuck yeeeah.
@rally54321
Күн бұрын
3 mates that use Rotax senior karts for practice days is expensive enough.
@BigDuke6ixx
Күн бұрын
Rich Dad Formula. Caterham Academy has gone the same way.
@RHBTurbochargers
Күн бұрын
Everything is expensive right now. Not just Karting/Racing. Paid $9 for a pack of bologna the other day.
@truantray
23 сағат бұрын
Im not sure anything has changed. In the mid 70s, Riccardo Patrese and Eddie Cheever spent over $100,000 in a single season karting, almost $600K in todays money. Its always been about rich kids and pay-to-win. Senna raced on the best unobtainable equipment and prep. Even Paul Tracy who claims a modest upbringing had his kart brought to the track in the back of a Rolls Royce. I raced him for years, his early career stories are complete bullshit.(He was a famous wrecker in karting). Wealthy fathers want it this way. Equipment manufacturers live to fleece rich fathers, and the manufacturers have too much influence with FIA. Wealthy people did not get wealthy competing on a level playing field. I even watched paid hitmen knock out a faster racer at the Junior World Championship. As mentioned, a few simple rule changes with a 5 year rule freeze would cut costs by 75% or more overnight. The solution is to regulate karting independent of the FIA, but good luck not getting it to be corrupt because the same issues affected US karting in the 70s-80s and they did not have the FIA. Manufacturers pulled all the strings.
@AlanDoveKarting
23 сағат бұрын
@@truantray senna didn't have the best gear when it went 135cc
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