Hold on. So sinaiticus omits completely vs 21 in Matthew 17 and omits the phase and fasting in mark 9:29. And the later scribe is trying to “correct” both verses. 1) by adding the whole verse in Matthew 21 and 2) by adding “and fasting” in mark 9. So the later scribe has a 3rd reading that does not appear at all in sinaiticus. Wouldn’t the logical conclusion be that the scribe has access to a/other manuscripts that has the entire reading and he is trying to correct what he feels was omitted in sinaiticus. If he was purely trying to “harmonize” Mark 9 with Matthew 21 then there would be no need to add “and fasting” to Mark 9. He would simply copy Mark 9:29 as it appears in sinaiticus and transpose it to Matthew 21.
@jamessatterlee
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@thysonsacclaim
8 ай бұрын
No. You completely misunderstood.
@markjeffries7150
7 ай бұрын
The earliest manuscripts of those passages (even though they are fragments of larger manuscripts) do not have those phrases.
@michelemoneywell8765
7 ай бұрын
So either a scribe had access to an earlier manuscript that we don't know of and was making a correction or a scribe decided to harmonize the gospels and added the text.
@larrybedouin2921
7 ай бұрын
@@markjeffries7150 Earliest doesn't equal best!
@baldwinIV7
11 ай бұрын
In my modern Bible Matthew 17:21 is not even mentioned while Mark 9:29 only says "You can only cast away those only with prayer." while fasting is not even mentioned. But from my mother's old Bible both verses are relevant and said as they should be...
@Doctor1933
9 ай бұрын
20lesus sayd vnto them: Because of your vnbelefe. For I saye verely vnto you: if ye hadde faith as a grayn of a mustard seede, ye should say vnto thys mountayne, remoue hence too yonder place, and it shoulde remoue, neyther shoulde any thyng be impossible for you too do. 21Howe be it this kynde goeth not out, but by prayer and fastynge.
@coryburns9161
7 ай бұрын
@Doctor1933 you can't be a Dr
@Doctor1933
7 ай бұрын
@@coryburns9161 you have no say who i am i think you need to work on your own problems before telling me who i am
@coryburns9161
7 ай бұрын
@@Doctor1933 if you were a Dr you would know how to spell more like a patient 😉
@Doctor1933
7 ай бұрын
@@coryburns9161 if you was from above like jesus said you wouldn’t of text me this nonsense attitude you are satan children who judge and teachers of human not heavenly things and understanding you become satan ways
@Dannyoffgrid
Жыл бұрын
The demons are glad that the fasting part was removed.
@oswaldomontes1234
Жыл бұрын
have u fasted before? how long did you go for?
@ciarajohnson5785
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@W2B.E
Жыл бұрын
@@oswaldomontes1234 i have and 6 days.
@godschild3640
7 ай бұрын
@@oswaldomontes1234 I have stage four lung cancer, and the immunotherapy is attacking my adrenal glands and my thyroid for 24 hours. All I do is drink water and then I get very weak till I can’t even walk . I don’t hope Jesus forgives me for all of my sins. Amen people will actually die not eating I’m hyperglycemic .. i’m using my speakerphone because I don’t know how to spell but I need to have sugar in order to live. I think that God will allow me to have some candy and how long are you supposed to fast for how many hours how many days because it would kill me
@KingArtexerxes
7 ай бұрын
About 3 years ago I got sick and fasted for 40 days. Not because I wanted to, but just didn’t feel like eating. Fortunately someone took me to a hospital and I discovered I had covid, pneumonia and a blood clots, and a brain bleed. They kept me 6 days then physical therapy at home until I was stronger again.
@jenna2431
Жыл бұрын
There's that fallible infallibility again.
@smarterthan98
7 ай бұрын
End times nonsense? You might want to read Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelation and not put an "allegorical" label on everything. Do you not believe Chriat is returning? God bless, brother. I'm not attacking you personally, so don't take offense.
@russellmcdonald7777
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thank you for the detailed explanation and for the graphics too!
@samfisher1326
10 ай бұрын
You can't call any explanation a reasonable explanation when you changing the words of God and this is unacceptable, can you sing any human beings can be smarter than God and can change the words
@kidsteach938
7 ай бұрын
Matthew 17:21 " Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." Strange that Dan would do a whole video on Matthew 17:21 without actually telling us WHAT was omitted...rather disingenuous. Fasting amplifies the effectiveness of prayer. Jesus fasted and prayed. You should also do the same.
@alexmcd378
7 ай бұрын
The history of the alteration was the point, not the content. So, magic works better when you're hungry?
@alexmcd378
7 ай бұрын
Or did you just not watch the video? Cause he does read the missing passage 😂
@kidsteach938
7 ай бұрын
@@alexmcd378 I watched much of it. More than deserved to be watched.
@kidsteach938
7 ай бұрын
@@alexmcd378 If praying is magic to you, and fasting is just being hungry, then you are clearly not a follower of Christ. Sorry.
@alexmcd378
7 ай бұрын
@@kidsteach938 correctly deduced. But how exactly is prayer not magic? You're invoking a higher being to bring about supernatural change. Same thing as in many other magical systems.
@marcoantoniocoronado9633
3 ай бұрын
Prayer and fasting are extremely important when praying for intercession. This is a very important teaching whose weight is immeasurably significant when in combat with those forces that want them best forgotten.
@Guithangba
6 ай бұрын
Why would anyone remove the word "fasting" which was written in red letters in (Mark 9:29 ) unless they are trying to mislead new believer.
@Marylmac
7 ай бұрын
4th century AD or BC please...not this woke nonsence!
@radamson1
7 ай бұрын
END TIME NONSENSE ?
@philsphan4414
Жыл бұрын
I think the best translations either out the verse in brackets and explain everything Dan says in a footnote, or leave it out and put in the footnote. Don’t leave people guessing, tell them the truth.
@clonetrooper71
Жыл бұрын
I agree; I have one like that.
@philsphan4414
Жыл бұрын
@@clonetrooper71 Believe it or not, Catholic Bibles contain pretty much whatever scholars think is right. So in mine the verse is in a footnote as a variant reading. It then refers to the same verse in Mark where the explanation is more detailed. Since Fundamentalism dominates Christianity in the news and on TV, Christianity must be 100% Fundamentalist in the eyes of most people. Many people, particularly many American Catholics, would be stunned at what their church actually holds about the Bible because obviously the people on TV are what matters. I’m a practicing catholic. I practice because I suck at it.
@MeanBeanComedy
Жыл бұрын
@@philsphan4414 Same here, but it's in mine.
@clonetrooper71
Жыл бұрын
@@philsphan4414 Same! I use the New American Bible, to be honest. How about you?
@philsphan4414
Жыл бұрын
@@clonetrooper71 Same.
@RonKris
7 ай бұрын
Can you please expand your comment "...and with all of the end times nonsense that's being proliferated right now it seems to be more of a concern to a lot of people" . What exactly are you implying? Thanks
@FishfaceTheDestroyer
6 ай бұрын
I don't think it's "implying" so much as outright saying that the end times ideas floating around the zeitgeist are nonsense.
@MaTTh3w633
6 ай бұрын
@@FishfaceTheDestroyer you mean, he’s outright sharing his opinion, man. Just because he says it with authority or confidence doesn’t make him right. I don’t think the end times are coming but I don’t deny they might be- because I’m not foolish enough to think I definitively know. I like to remain- how do you say? Hmmm “humble”
@FishfaceTheDestroyer
6 ай бұрын
@@MaTTh3w633 I wasn't stating *my* opinion at all, but I don't really know what "end times" entail so I can't comment.
@MaryWollston
6 ай бұрын
How interesting that all these "minor edits" of the Word of God are only being cut from the New Testament. Mostly Matthew, Mark, and John. How incredibly intriguing that this would be the case.
@J_Z913
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that you brought up Metzger given his heavy involvement with the RSV and NSRV. Bart Ehrman (who was Metzger's student) has a semi-recent episode of his podcast that gets into 20th century translation and revision efforts for those interested!
@sunh1213
7 ай бұрын
Would you happen to remember the episode title?
@J_Z913
7 ай бұрын
@@sunh1213 How to Translate the Bible: Problems and Pitfalls
@sunh1213
7 ай бұрын
@@J_Z913 Thanks.
@katehite9551
7 ай бұрын
Why would you listen to someone who admits that they are no longer a Christian?? Bart Ehrman left the Christian faith some time ago.
@J_Z913
7 ай бұрын
@@katehite9551 Dr. Ehrman is the leading public scholar of Early Christianity. His insights into this topic are valuable.
@hots4jc
7 ай бұрын
King James has it in there. This is a very good thing to know before you cast out a demon.
@a.a.staffing5272
7 ай бұрын
There are a lot more end time signs than that.
@alexrodgers9247
7 ай бұрын
“With all the End Times NONSENSE that is being proliferated”…… Acts 13:41 ‘Behold, you scoffers, and marvel, and perish; For I am accomplishing a work in your days, A work which you will never believe, though someone should describe it to you.’” If you are calling Bible prophecy “nonsense” then you are calling about 1/3 of God’s Word NONSENSE. YOU best be careful…God will NOT be mocked by the likes of you lil tiny human! And depending on your actual stance before God, you might very easily be hearing these words direct From Him….”Depart from Me, I never knew you”. And, NO I did not listen to your lil talk…no need when you start out the way you did.
@MichaelKMorris
7 ай бұрын
Ha! Lets listen to 3 manuscripts that disagree with each other 40% of the time OVER the 6000 that agree 99.99%...now thats foolishness.
@essequamvideri
7 ай бұрын
great video. Jesus prayed "that they may be one" and here we are always arguing about who's the most right... (John 17:20-21) Stop seeking only to validate your own viewpoint. Read your Bible, compare notes with multiple translations to help you get a higher resolution understanding, and seek Truth with a sincere heart. (Mark 1:15, John 8:31-32) Paul wrote about this Christian tribalism when folks were claiming allegiance to their human teacher instead of recognizing their kinship in Christ. (1 Corinth 1:12)
@mabell01
7 ай бұрын
This is very interesting commentary. "Just the facts please" is very appreciated.
@gknight4719
7 ай бұрын
HERE'S A FACT, GOD/ GODS HAVE NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST! You are told to use "faith" basically lying to yourself.
@fukenbiker
7 ай бұрын
Religion has a horrible history and is bad for humanity. That said, God reportedly existed solo for an eternity. What changed? Does allowing undeserved suffering make the companionship better?
@gknight4719
7 ай бұрын
@@fukenbiker GOOD QUESTION, let me put your mind at rest, god/ gods are only imaginary! Religion is the best tax-free Ponzi scheme ever!
@Grabby81
6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, these days, people's opinions are taken as facts.
@Grabby81
6 ай бұрын
Whatever you identify with is a fact to you and only you
@DavidSpeelman-bc9wo
7 ай бұрын
Cursed is he who ads or takes away from the Bible.Jesus said these new generation of demons only come out with fasting and thats what I will believe.I can believe Jesus or I can believe you.I choose Jesus because He Is God and He's got power.And He drives out demons and heals the sick and walks on water etc.What can you do?Speak about stuff you know nothing of.
@777dragonborn
6 ай бұрын
Im finding this out the hard way That one is defined by the things denied of ones self . Upon meditation and fasting you deny youfself indulges and urges , pleasures. As pointed out the messiah fasted 40 days. And immediately after that the demon king himself confronted the taunted messiah. Honestly in 17:21. I think the monks and bishops were being sneaky about snacking. But gluttony is a serious crisis in America. The demons hate it when we quit playing thier game .
@1flowolf1
6 ай бұрын
Meaning many have changed , a word of god will never be touched u cant trust this bible and last testament is Quran just read that it wont ever be changed, god bless
@OmarBenjumea
6 ай бұрын
As they were described by the Quran, they remodel their religion as it suits their whims.
@JackMeoff-gu7om
7 ай бұрын
So how can we believe anything that's written ?
@christsavesreadromans1096
6 ай бұрын
Most of the variants are trivial and have no effect on doctrine. 99+% is preserved.
@JackMeoff-gu7om
6 ай бұрын
Your a very brave man to call any of Gods words 'trivial'@@christsavesreadromans1096
@Antient.Briton
7 ай бұрын
So parts of 'the word of god' can be be removed if they don't suit a particular editor; does god know about this?
@andrewkliss274
7 ай бұрын
I prefer using Anno Domini rather than the secular Common Era.
@TomorrowsChild77
7 ай бұрын
Actually, you're totally backwards wrong. See the following excerpt: "Most of the Greek manuscripts that have come down to us are of what scholars call the Byzantine (or Antiochan) family of texts. These manuscripts, though not the oldest, are the ones preserved by the Greek church. Because they represent the vast majority of Greek manuscripts they are sometimes referred to as the Majority Text or the Textus Receptus. This is the text from which the King James translation of the New Testament was made. However, beginning in 1881, other Greek texts have been published that have been the basis for nearly all subsequent translations, including the New International Version, the New American Standard Bible, and the New English Bible. These published texts have relied heavily upon two ancient Greek manuscripts, called Codex Vaticanus (also known as 'B') and Codex Sinaiticus (also known as Aleph). Where did these manuscripts originate? Vaticanus was "discovered" in the Vatican in 1481 and was released as the Jesuit-Rheims Bible in 1582. It differs from the Textus Receptus in nearly 8,000 places. The use of recent technology such as the vidicon camera, which creates a digital form of faint writing, reveals that Vaticanus has been altered by at least two hands, one as late as the twelfth century. Noted scholar Dr. Bruce Metzger states: "A few passages therefore remain to show the original appearance of the first hand." The corrector "omitted [things] he believed to be incorrect" (Manuscripts of the Greek Bible, Oxford University Press, p. 74). The Sinaiticus manuscripts were discovered by Constantine von Tischendorf in a monastery in the Sinai desert in the 1850s. They differ in about 9,000 places from the traditional Byzantine Text (Textus Receptus). Dr. Bruce Metzger describes the carelessness of transmission that marks the Sinaiticus manuscripts. He declared that at least nine "correctors" had worked on the manuscripts over the centuries. "Tichendorf's edition of the manuscript enumerates some 14,800 places where some alteration has been made to the text" (p. 77). Later use of ultra-violet lamps showed multiple additional places where the original reading had been erased. Not only do Sinaiticus and Vaticanus disagree with the overwhelming majority of manuscripts, but also they disagree with one another perhaps a dozen times on every page. While many of these disagreements are small and may involve merely a preposition or the spelling of a word, others omit whole verses such as the ending of Mark's gospel. When the Apostle John put our New Testament into its final form, shortly before his death at the end of the first century, he was living in Ephesus, a Greek-speaking city located near the western coast of ancient Asia Minor (modern Turkey). This is the same city that had served as the repository of the copies of Paul's writings decades earlier. It is the city used in Revelation 2 to represent the entire first stage of the Church of God. The Greek manuscripts that come from this area are the ones labeled by scholars as the Byzantine type. Scholars fleeing from the Turkish invasion in the 15th century brought copies of Byzantine texts west. Many of these Greek scholars and the manuscripts that they brought with them ended up in the area of Basel, Switzerland after the fall of Constantinople in 1453. It is from these manuscripts that printed texts of Erasmus (1516) and Stephens (1520) were primarily derived. Stephen's printed text was known as the Textus Receptus and was the accepted standard of the Greek New Testament until the latter part of the 19th century. Since the 19th century, Bible translation has undergone a further change. Dismissing the idea that the Bible was supernaturally inspired and preserved, many scholars have taken the approach that the oldest manuscripts, whatever their source, are closer to the original and therefore must be more accurate. Most 20th century Bible translations, apart from the New King James Version, have used these texts touted by such critics, and relegated the readings of officially preserved texts to footnotes. While these translations can be useful for Bible study, they should be treated with caution, and not accepted to the exclusion of the more historically sound texts. The Creator God not only inspired the writing of the Bible, He also guided the process of both canonization and preservation of the text. In spite of numerous attempts by carnal men through the centuries to suppress or distort the word of God, God has been faithful to ensure that His "instruction book" for life is still available for us today."
@brucetowell3432
7 ай бұрын
Thank you and may God Bless you!!
@willemventer3935
7 ай бұрын
This explain just how the bible was cobbled together by the church
@raedosman6260
2 ай бұрын
So the bible has been altered verses omitted and verses interpolated
@trabob4438
Жыл бұрын
Like 1John 5:7 was not in the oldest copies but was added to prove the trinity.
@pleaseenteraname1103
Жыл бұрын
Well it actually has a pretty complicated history, end it was never actually put in the KJV Bible until the 1800s, it was originally only in the marginal notes, I only dates back to the 12th century, but it was in some of the Latin manuscripts Desiderius Erasmus was using, and he was pressured by the Catholic Church, and he knew there wasn’t that much textual support for it so he ended up only putting it in the marginal notes. I recommend reading the NET bible commentary on this passage.
@trabob4438
Жыл бұрын
@@pleaseenteraname1103 When the writers of the kjv first translated the bible it was not in there. They had to ask them to put it in but they said it's not in the earlier greek but they ended up putting it in.
@pleaseenteraname1103
Жыл бұрын
@@trabob4438 yeah it was originally only in the footnotes until the 1800s.
@MitzvosGolem1
Жыл бұрын
7:53 and 8:11 not in original koine Greek. Nor Mark 16:9-20. Dozens of other changes made to koine Greek new testament and Hebrew Scripture by church fathers. A Man made theology .
@rigavitch
6 ай бұрын
It's only in Orthodox Bibles. Thank the Lord!
@sfarhan5493
8 ай бұрын
So this was added by someone later you tell me if you can change the word of God, and if the word of God could be changed this mean your book is not the word of God a.k.a. Bible😂😂
@MarkJohnson-uu8oy
9 ай бұрын
Yea, hath God said
@peterl5043
7 ай бұрын
What is this 'CE' (Common Era)... rubbish!
@jeffroDunno
7 ай бұрын
If verse 21 wasn't in the original writing, then why is it still acknowledged by omitting it? It only makes sense that 22 needs to become 21 and so on to honor the original text. Just curious as to why it's done the way it is instead of truly and completely omitting of text that aren't originally in it
@kingston163
8 ай бұрын
There are only 2 bibles one is the Majority Text Textus Receptus (98% of sources) aka KJV and the ONLY other bible is the Alexandrian Text (Gnostic - demote Jesus)(2% of sources) aka NIV, NLT, NASB, NKJV, ESV, etc. To me the main issue is the lie that all new translations are just KJV's that are easier to read but they are completely DIFFERENT bible. NIV has many verses missing!! ESV is to fit with Calvinist TULIP theology (ie opinion). Theology is the study of man's OPINION relating to GOD that's why so many different 'Christian' opinion religions and THEIR Bibles and growing. Always looking for their 'RIGHT' Bible (Version) and LOOKING and LOOKING and NEVER finding!
@nikaart5360
7 ай бұрын
I'm calling bologna on that! You don't just remove scripture from the word of God! Thank God I have and ESV and a Kings James Version.... we have to stop messing with the word that was given to us. Period end of story.
@alexmcd378
7 ай бұрын
So you prefer your Bible with later additions?
@donnabrown9648
Жыл бұрын
Because it is very powerful. It is the way to forgiveness through faith by means of self sacrifice. The first death.
@kidsteach938
7 ай бұрын
Someone evil omitted fasting from Christian teachings. Jesus fasted.
@isaiah30v8
7 ай бұрын
You don't think it is the end times because a verse is missing?
@maritvansanten
7 ай бұрын
I didn't get that link from the video either, but... A lot of people who were raised christian, (more or less) turned their backs on God and the bible (at least here in Europe). Now that the world turns so grim, they remember the biblical end time and try read the bible without knowing how to read it and without efficient help to understand it. That's when those kind of questions rise. I think. (I've always had a bible that points out why some verses are omitted. They are always mentioned by an 'empty' verse# and an explanation which states what other translations write).
@gregoryt8792
7 ай бұрын
“Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.”
@MrDragpics
7 ай бұрын
The context is about believing then the verse 21 contradicts that.
@Bl_eu
3 ай бұрын
@@MrDragpics It most certainly is not a contridiction. Faith and prayer go hand in hand. Prayer is nothing without faith but our prayer is fortified by fasting. The Bible frequently links fasting with prayer, and some say that fasting can increase the effectiveness of prayer. Here are some examples from the Bible that mention fasting and prayer: Nehemiah 1:4 Nehemiah "fasted and prayed before the God of heaven" in his prayer for the rebuilding of Jerusalem's walls. Daniel 9:3 Daniel "devoted himself to plead with God 'in prayer and petition, in fasting'". Acts 13:3 "While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them'". Fasting is a spiritual discipline. It helps us grow in our faith (belief). Fasting is a tangible way to deny ourselves-to declare before God that we know it's all about Him, Not about us.
@MrDragpics
3 ай бұрын
@@Bl_eu what do you mean by fasting?
@MrDragpics
3 ай бұрын
@@Bl_eu Checked older manuscripts most say fasting was not in the originals, pray when you pray you believe check what Jesus says about fasting thanks for your reply just spent time in the word checking it out.
@MrDragpics
3 ай бұрын
@@Bl_eu Just found this Mark 2:18 everything must fit.....
@exillens
Жыл бұрын
Idk. If Mark has "and fasting" and we know Matthew uses Mark, then it would be expected that "and fasting" would've initially been in Matthew too
@dondgc2298
11 ай бұрын
First, we don’t “know” that Matthew uses Mark. That’s a theory (albeit a good one in my opinion) and not an established fact. But to answer your question as to why Matthew didn’t pick it up - Mark may have never written that line. It could very well have been added later - AFTER Matthew used the manuscript of Mark that was available to him.
@exillens
11 ай бұрын
@@dondgc2298 Well I'll say this. For Matthew to have not used Mark yet they both have the same omissions in key parts, that would be wildly coincidental
@dondgc2298
11 ай бұрын
@@exillens which is exactly the reason I believe it’s a good theory.
@exillens
11 ай бұрын
@@dondgc2298 It's beyond a "theory" at this point. They literally quote each other verbatim and in the same order of events throughout along with Matthew making omissions and tack ons at the same points of a story. If you and i both tell a story about the same U.S president there's no way that can happen if we're using different independent sources and perspectives. But at least you get it
@davidjacobs8558
7 ай бұрын
obviously, he did not like the idae of skipping meals for any reason.
@ragnapodewski4694
7 ай бұрын
Therefore I stick to my old Bible from school. It is the version of 1912. The Alexandrian Evangelism of St. John omittes the story of Jesus and the adulteress.The community of Alexandria was lacking love and was a bit self righteous. They could not accept Jesus forgiving such a great sinner.
@b.chuchlucious5471
7 ай бұрын
I think you meant 4th century AD, not CE.
@rodshop5897
7 ай бұрын
How does that change the date?
@b.chuchlucious5471
7 ай бұрын
It doesn't. Anno Domini (AD), Year of Our Lord honors our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. BC means Before Christ.@@rodshop5897
@janetgillespie6590
7 ай бұрын
AD is Latin / CE is Christian Era. Simply English translation.
@b.chuchlucious5471
7 ай бұрын
CE/BCE=Common Ere/Before Common Era. Blame the tribe for that one.@@janetgillespie6590
@angusmcpherson
7 ай бұрын
@@janetgillespie6590Liberals use C.E. to be politically correct. This man is a liberal because he uses "C.E." and trusts Westcott and Hort, two Darwinists who dabbled in the occult.
@StephenBradley2317
7 ай бұрын
Wait they added made-up text to a made-up text? No way.
@jimpowell2296
7 ай бұрын
First off Christ always existed.
@grahamegaw-mc3bw
7 ай бұрын
End times nonsense? The signs are all around- IF YOU CARE TO LOOK.
@alexmcd378
7 ай бұрын
And have been for 2000 years. I'm good
@carlosmattey3135
Жыл бұрын
Read:Atomic power with God thru prayer and fasting. Franklin Hall
@mrsatire9475
7 ай бұрын
Why does the Word of God change so much without so much as a word from God?
@JackMeoff-gu7om
7 ай бұрын
How can God let his word be changed ?
@colinrow725
Жыл бұрын
It's just as well. I'm not very keen on fasting.
@orly2663
Жыл бұрын
even though it heals your body
@sarahspeaks1384
Жыл бұрын
@@orly2663 mind & soul, plus works in the gap for others
@rhondaledford1078
Жыл бұрын
Fasting is powerful. Jesus tells us " when you fast" not " if you fast"! We are expected to fast just like Jesus did!
@grantbartley483
7 ай бұрын
Would have helped if you said what the verse actually says. I haven't managed to memorise the Bible yet.
@AliciaGuitar
7 ай бұрын
He did
@NateWilliams190
7 ай бұрын
"But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."
@grantbartley483
7 ай бұрын
@@NateWilliams190 thanks
@jamesdolph437
7 ай бұрын
transfiguration ... look it up ... not hard Matt.17-21
@NeonDreams17
Жыл бұрын
My question is, if it was added later on, then why are we NOW saying it was omitted? Why do we even have new bibles skipping over v 21, if there never was a v 21? I think it's more confusing to do that. Shouldn't v22 just be put in as v21?
@rpizzaspaghetti2718
Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying
@thebigmacd
10 ай бұрын
It's so the verse references line up regardless of which translation is used...
@deanmason1564
7 ай бұрын
The verse AND the verse number are deleted so as to prevent ambiguity and confusion. There would be mis-references. For example, if a commentator referenced v. 22, which had been renumbered, the reader of an uncorrected text would be scratching his head, as the commentary would be misapplied. It also is a default way to inform readers that some bibles contain scribal additions (mostly in the western texts) which have been textually edited. Any good bible student can compare different versions.
@happy_hand_grenade7294
Ай бұрын
Because everyone is committed to using the kjv of what scripture should be instead of what the original writings say
@deanfirnatine7814
7 ай бұрын
"End times nonsense" really?
@20quid
Жыл бұрын
Are there any in-print versions of the New Testament for critical reading that leave these passages in tact but somehow mark them or color code them to draw attention to their later addition?
@alanmunch5779
7 ай бұрын
‘The Text-Critical English New Testament’ does. It gives statistics in footnotes about what % of manuscripts and which ones omit verses or give different readings.
@dumpsterfire9797
3 ай бұрын
New American Standard Bible 1995 (NOT 2020) is a *very* close word-for-word translation to the original text if you're not into the KJV. They put these commonly redacted verses in brackets. The Legacy Standard Bible does this as well. The NKJV is alright but they don't bracket or annotate that verse in any way. The NKJV also does a couple questionable things in it's translation that I don't much care for, but I might be splitting hairs.
@darkstar6509
Жыл бұрын
The reason this verse is omitted is because it is Tremendously powerful! This is why Jesus went into the wilderness for 30 days Is to pray and fast. Then the devil came and tempted him and Jesus fought him with scripture. And the devil fleed from Jesus. This is what we are to do as well. Jesus said resist the devil and he will flee from you.
@aaronrowell3566
Жыл бұрын
Then why was Mark 9:29 left in if “they” were trying to hide the power of fasting?
@rhondaledford1078
Жыл бұрын
Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. Yes, fasting is powerful! Jesus tells us " when you fast" ....not "if you fast"! We are expected to fast!
@pleaseenteraname1103
Жыл бұрын
No it’s because there is little to no textual support for it the earliest manuscripts this verse probably isn’t even until the 12th century, at the earliest it might be the seventh century.
@Kingjamez560
Жыл бұрын
He just said cus it wasn’t there on the original transcripts it was added by man nt god
@sleeping7003
Жыл бұрын
The Devil will change the Bible and take out powerful parts. The devil won’t change the Quran because we all know it’s false.
@naysneedle5707
Жыл бұрын
So interesting to see how the manuscripts were altered. The fact that the alterations took place suggests that the writings were thought of quite differently in the past than how we think of them today. Although I'm sure there are still many who would like to make little changes here and there, and perhaps a bit of that goes on in the translation choices of some editions, idk.
@scienceexplains302
Жыл бұрын
It does. I often read Bible passages with the interlinear text and translation. Some key words are translated differently for no apparent reason - other than that it matches modern - usually Christian - theology. A Christian example is Isaiah 9:1. The NiV translation makes the past oppression of Galilee into a prophecy of the future. One monotheist example is Exodus 7:1 “See, I have made you _like_ a god to Pharaoh.” The word Like is not in the Hebrew text and the word for God, _elohim,_ has no prefix, etc, to indicate any additional meaning.
@harroldhenderson
8 ай бұрын
@@79k65 Do you also believe that Aisha was fit to be married at 6 years old to a 47 year old man? Was she old enough to be penetrated by him 3 years later?
@alanx4121
8 ай бұрын
The verses werent added but many were removed in the fake codex sinaiticus supposedly and coincidentally discovered shortly before westcott and hort worked on replacing Erasmus' received text and create a new standard which is still in use. David w Daniels researched it.
@cto511987
7 ай бұрын
All the new versions I've discovered through many faithful scholars have a wholly different manuscript which they draw from than the Textus Receptus (new test) and Masoretic Texts (old Test). There is a very strong deception being perpetrated by the powers that be which sadly the majority have fallen for. The King James bible or Authorized version is the culmination of the received 5000 plus manuscripts - NOTHING MISSING! The New versions ON THE OTHER HAND (all new critical texts) have hijacked the word of God by presenting their "DISOVERED MIRACULOUSLY" texts they state are now the oldest and greatest such as the Siniaticus found being burned by monks at St. Catherines monestary.....(how convenient). To find out the whole of it there have been faithful christians such as Mr. Pinto from Adullam Films which produced free here on YT "A Lamp In The Dark", and "Wheat Among the Tares". Also actual recent discovery of the vast forgeries perpetrated and made plain by mr David Daniels from Chick Tracts also found here on YT or on their website. This matter is deep and broad but you will see the hallmark of the enemy of our souls as you wade into those waters. The kingdom of darkness is still calling to man and pounding the drum of intellect and temptation by asking in the modern bible footnotes "Did God Say????" No different than the serpent in the Garden of Eden asked Eve.
@Berean_with_a_BTh
7 ай бұрын
@@alanx4121Claims of Codex Sinaiticus being a 19th-century forgery are nothing new. They have all been thoroughly debunked but its like playing whack-a-mole with the rabid KJV-onlyists who seem determined to keep resurrecting them. Funny thing, though, they can't even agree amongst themselves who the forger was - some mysterious Jesuit (even though Sinaiticus was never in the RCC's possession) or Constantine Simonides. And it wasn't discovered just 'shortly' before Westcott and Hort used it for their 1869 Greek New Testament - Constantin von Tischendorf discovered Codex Sinaiticus at Saint Catherine's Monastery some 25 years earlier, in 1844.
@Seccheus
7 ай бұрын
Lol...BS. All of it.
@thescoobymike
Жыл бұрын
Would you ever go on MythVision?
@maklelan
Жыл бұрын
I've been on MythVision once or twice already and I'm scheduled to be back next month.
@thescoobymike
Жыл бұрын
@@maklelan oh great! Guess I somehow missed those episodes.
@jonathanklopf7581
7 ай бұрын
"end times nonsense"?
@matttillman7430
7 ай бұрын
According to MacDowell's "Evidence That Demands a Verdict," there are only a couple hundred thousand textual variances in the New Testament, only 40 or 50 of which "are of great significance."
@ingrids27ec39
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your research. Just a note here - if End Times arrival were based merely on the lack of this verse, then that would be weird. The signs and symptoms of the End Times being in motion now are enormous. The prophetic bible references and connected evidence is somewhere in triple digits now.
@samantharaulin
Жыл бұрын
That’s why I liked the NAB I had. It has soooooo many annotations, and always pointed out when things were likely not original very clearly. Annotations and cross reference verses made it so much more awesome to read
@jamescobrien
8 ай бұрын
I have an NASB Bible from 1987 and it also has the footnote and the verse in brackets. However, Mathew 28:1, 1Corinthians 16:1-2, and other verses containing first day of the week phrase in translation bibles, doesn't have a footnote that it says Mian Sabbaton, Opse De Sabbaton, etc. in the early Greek manuscripts. Protes emera tis evdomada is the real way to say first day of the week in Koinea Greek. So I won't be using NASB but Westcott-Hort Interlinear Bible only for the Greek portion.
@Nomad58
5 ай бұрын
You guys all must be Catholics?
@jimdrummer816
7 ай бұрын
Verses containing fasting have been omitted from many new translations.
@SarthorS
Жыл бұрын
Fundamentalist Christian finds a coin on the floor. "It's a sign that I shall have a long and prosperous life". Splits his pants picking it up. "Trials and tribulations. It's a sign that the end times are here."
@edwardmiessner6502
Жыл бұрын
The Fundamentalist Christian was dressed immodestly by his own church's dress custom for males. If they're tight enough to split when you bend or crouch down, they're tight enough to show off your junk and your buns. For example, a limerick: There once was a young lad from Shoreham, Who wore pants made too tight but he wore 'em. He looked very discreet, 'Til he bent in the street, To pick up a dime, then he tore 'em. 😆
@alanx4121
8 ай бұрын
A fundy wd read his kjv
@goodvibrations4864
7 ай бұрын
Dumb.
@johncarbonetta7812
7 ай бұрын
"End time nonsense?" Do you know something that we need to know?
@SarthorS
7 ай бұрын
@@johncarbonetta7812 Revelations, and the tendency for religious people to interpret random events as significant. Christianity started off as a doomsday cult, and they have been predicting Armageddon since the very start. Polls show that most fundamentalist Christians think that the world will end during their lifetimes. And they've been thinking this for the last 2,000 years.
@NapaMistU
7 ай бұрын
It's also worth noting that translations are based on a particular edition of the Greek text, (which is noted in the introductory notes), which text is assembled and published by textual scholars such as Metzger, but also many others. They make most of the decisions as to what should be considered original, and their published text will usually be followed by translators. Since most translations are based on the same Greek text, they generally agree on which verses are in doubt. The differences arise because the King James was based on a Greek text that was available in Europe in 1500 before much textual work had been done, known as the Textus Receptus.
@darrendelaney8161
Жыл бұрын
kinda silly to pick some rando verse and say it was not "original" when none know of what any "original" is . a feaking definition of early vs "original" would be be a nice start.
@ibramo25
5 ай бұрын
Verse Context: Matthew 17:14-21 finds Jesus and three of the disciples returning from the mountain, to find a crowd gathered around the remaining nine. A desperate father pleads on behalf of his demon-afflicted son who has seizures and often falls into water or fire. The disciples could not cast the demon out (Mark 9:14-29). Jesus, exasperated by the doubt of His disciples, rebukes the demon and heals the boy. When they ask, Jesus tells the disciples their faith was too small to cast out the demon. Even faith as small as a mustard seed is enough to move a mountain. Verse 21 nearly duplicates Mark 9:29 but is not found in the earliest manuscripts of Matthew.
@patwilkins1589
3 ай бұрын
This is nonsense. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus…really? Scholars….really? You’re far better off praying about it, and asking if fasting is from God, and if the enemy is trying to keep us from knowing about it. There is every reason why fasting would have been removed from the Bible, and that’s because it is extremely beneficial for purifying and healing the soul/body, which is precisely what the enemies of Jesus do not want.
@michaellong5714
7 ай бұрын
Just a curious question, here. Exactly which versions/replacements/additions/corrections/overwrites/removals/etc. were/are God inspired and which were human frailty made...and how can anyone today really tell the difference? And please, don't say that God is somehow inspiring 'you particularly' to know which corrections are valid and which aren't. But if you are one of those, please show proof. ie your training/background/studies/review papers published/etc. Until I see that, I have a little more trust in Dan and his sources and research and studies. Thank you.
@lincwayne3435
7 ай бұрын
*Wescott and Hort were necromancers... *Vaticanus & Sinaiticus disagree w each other in the gospels in over 6,000 places. *Paul said the word of God was being corrupted in the first century; older is not necessarily better *If you still want to go with older, then why does no one bring up the Gothic translation of Ufilas? It is dated at the same time as these above manuscripts. It contains many of these missing verses & / or portions of them; some are even quoted by the church fathers - a century BEFORE the above manuscripts. ...jus' sayin'... P.S.: it's interesting to note, that the so-called critical manuscripts (Nestle, etc.), that let you know where all these verses come from - so you can "really study", have decided to leave out any reference to the Gothic...(and it's worse, there is much much more...)
@catcooper9461
2 ай бұрын
I feel that fasting being such a powerful weapon because as you put your flesh through suffering by not giving into its desires you are spiritually empowering yourself. Therefore omitting that word from verse 21 doesn’t surprise me because there’s only one person who hates the act of fasting and that is Satan.
@chumleysteven5717
7 ай бұрын
You guys make God out to be a lliR for He said He would preserve His Word. With over 2000 versions of the Bible then which one is preserved. The Majority of the Texts do not support modern Bibles. Modern Bibles exist to make money for the publishers. They can copyright them.
@jessif.3331
5 ай бұрын
IF people would Rightly divide the word of truth then you would understand that verse 21 are Jesus' words and he is telling the disciples that it is their lack of faith or their weak faith that is the problem. Jesus' comment that faith can move mountains is a Hebrew proverb that meant faith can move immovable obstacles. The emphasis is not on the literal moving of the mountains but on the insurmountable problems that the disciples and all christians face. And that this kind of faith requires fasting and prayer... That is a VERY important verse that so called scholars leave out. and that is taking away from God true words... These modern version bibles take what God wrote through the Holy Spirit working in man and put their own intellect in its place and its WRONG.
@all4myutube
7 ай бұрын
Dude if you’re going to use the CE or BCE, nothing you say I’ll accept because the Gregorian calendar is what made modern calendars work and you’re leaving them out. You campen either use BC or AD, But stop using secular ways of timing the Bible. It’s insulting to me and those like me and to the Gregorian monks.
@Heisrisin3
7 ай бұрын
You think the scribe just made it up and stuck "and fasting" in there? Really??? You would have to know what the scribe was thinking. The fact is you weren't there and neither was Mr. Metzger. The Codex Sinaiticus was written some 1600 years ago. In that time it has been the authoritative text of the Bible. It's troubling to think that you believe you know more than they did.
@repentnow1720
6 ай бұрын
Q1 - Why is it that for every other ancient manuscript, if one copy has information in it - that bit of information is considered important and added to the compiled / completed manuscript, but in the case of the NT - the opposite is true? Westcott and Hort could only dream of this much acceptance of their deception! Now (after 140 years) people think they are actually doing God's will by calling into question the validity of scripture. Q2 - If Jesus gave this instruction set, in the verse referenced, and we choose to ignore, or even worst, remove it, how can we help those individuals that need to be free? A2 - We can't because we don't follow the instructions given by our lord. Please Note: Nothing removed by Westcott and Hort is un-important - they tried to remove the only direct reference to the Trinity via their 90% removal of 1John5:7. This is not just a difference of opinion - TR vs ABS. Westcott and Hort's editorial biases were completely documented in the letters they sent to each other talking about (with great glee) how they could undermine the faith via their 'subtle omissions'.
@sharonholdren7588
5 ай бұрын
Your commentary is problematic for 2 reasons. First you jump in right in the middle and only a person knowledgeable of the Bible would immediately know to what you are referring. Second you chase away your listeners by pursuing this omission. Having been required to take a course in Bible every semester at an institutionally fundamentalist Christian college from which I graduated I even had difficulty figuring out the topic of your discussion. And I was not going to dig out a copy of the Bible to learn. It also highlights the point at which I decided there was something terribly wrong with the concept that The Bible was "God's Word," when a fellow student had the nerve to inquire "How are we to know that the translation is correct?" And the Prof said "We take it on faith that God has guided the hands and hearts of the translators over the centuries." Having had 5 years of French and Arabic I know for a fact there are any number of ways to translate a sentence and not one is actually accurate.
@matthewmilburn938
7 ай бұрын
Oldest, most reliable and all with Papal blessing? The mathematical patterns that are inherent to Hebrew & Greek do not add up if you remove these. Read the intro to the Thomas Nelson NKJV. God gets a bit testy about messing with His Word, so should we. Yes it's easy to explain, but the consequences are tragic.
@billyfromla1117
7 ай бұрын
The scribe of Vaticanus was so bad his editor noted his sloppy work and it was relegated to the shelf to be written over, you say this was done at a much later date? What’s your evidence. To my knowledge, Vaticanus has never been properly dated. If it has, other than subjectively, please educate me. The Sinaiticus, was described as being “white”, now it’s aged, except they forgot to age all the pages? If you don’t believe me, investigate for yourself, the internet clouds a lot of things, but, it exposes a lot of things as well. Constantine Simonides was a known forger of ancient works, he confessed to producing the Codex Sinaiticus. I’m pretty sure he was not a King James Version Only member.
@Zundfolge2000
8 ай бұрын
Do you own research and think. This is not a correct explanation. John 5 makes no sense without verse 4; it WAS there in the originals. In the Johannine Comma, the Greek pronoun/antecedent agreement doesn't work without the "added" words. "Oldest" doesn't always mean more reliable. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus aren't reliable.
@aladinfox4098
7 ай бұрын
Just shows how old my bible is but whatever. Can you imagine a scribe many years ago after the event happened changing the words of the bible just to suit his own interpretation !! .......now there's a thought.
@randyjustice8216
7 ай бұрын
"End times nonsense", really? Jesus didn't think it was, " nonsense" when He warned that only God knew when it would happen. I'm not saying we are in that event, but, nor am I saying we are not because, who am I? However, I do believe that we are living in the "Days of Noah"!
@The_Real_Sebastian_Garcia
6 ай бұрын
Astaghfurillah, the removal and added of verses is a major sign of corruption. There is a reason why Allah is the Guardian of the Quran. No verse is to be removed or added that corrupts it.
@BigAl53750
6 ай бұрын
There is aboslutely NO logical reason to suppose that the oldest version of a manuscript is more accurate than a later one. The older manuscript may not have been used as much, BECAUSE people knew it was inaccurate and so left it on the shelf, in favour of a more accurate version, which would be used more often and therefore need to be replaced more frequently. The fact that a manuscript is older is not proof of accuracy and to insist that it is doesn’t change the fact that there is no logical basis for this idea. An erroneous record of an event could be written within minutes of the event, but a more accurate record of the event may not be written down until an hour or more afterwards. The logical fallacy being used in this video is a common one amongst textual scholars the world over, but common usage doesn’t vaildate anything. A lie is a lie, no matter how many people tell it, or how often. I’m frankly astonished at the lack of logiocal reasoning amongst scholars who should know better doesn’t ever seem to be remarked on by anyone. Methinks that maybe there’s more than a little scholarly bias at work here? Please don’t try and tell me that scholarly bias doen't exist. I was born at night, but it wasn’t LAST NIGHT.
@MichaelJung-o6w
7 ай бұрын
Where did the idea that things must be I harmony come from? Where does the idea, all the apostles followed Jesus, every moment of every day, and any variation is a mistake? In normal speech, talking about the same topic, varations occur, a word or phrase may be added or not mentioned at all. You apparently think my Lord Jesus, was a robot, that spoke the same things, word for word, over his 3 year ministry. Before making declarations like this, please, go to the source in prayer, and, ask His opinion. I read some of works of the Jews, and I have been dazzled by the intellect on display, but, never did any of those very smart men turn to the Source, for His opinion. I worship a living God who will answer if asked. The intellect, is limited, by available earthly sources, hopefully you will choose to go to The Source for answers, in the future.
@CCoburn3
6 ай бұрын
Sure. And it's not just a few random verses either. Sometimes, it is an entire passage -- such as the story of the woman taken in adultery. The point is that we KNOW what the Bible originally said & we can remove the extra text. We are not confused about what is and isn't inspired by God.
@ekd5213
Жыл бұрын
Plenty missing!!😒
@WordMadeFlesh777
5 ай бұрын
One issue I think is interesting is that to think that the critical text in general is trash. So do we really think that Egypt held the better text than the early church in Antioch? Do you not think that the early Christians knew about the Alexandrian texts at that time and chose not to use them? Alexandria was a major hub for gnostic schools and those texts were likely tampers with: I think the early church in Antioch had the right manuscripts to begin with. The Byzantine texts are likely the superior texts. They agree with each other much more than the critical texts and are much more uniform. I think it’s false to assume that the older manuscripts are cleaner. They are still copy’s of copy’s. Who cares if they are the older corrupt manuscripts? The Byzantine may be a tad bit “newer” but they are likely the cleanest. So that’s what matters. The vaticanus is the only complete CT that is passable. The siniaticus was found in a literal trash can lol. Look it up.
@williamacuff7707
7 ай бұрын
The reason it's deleted, prayer and fasting: God, Jesus hears prayer from them that are obedient to the word and fasting is fasting from sin! We pray and ask God, Jesus, if it's his will for the same reason we are obedient! Sinners are not Gods, Jesus, people, only believers, amen!
@Sunburst6520
4 ай бұрын
Hold on lets do a logic test to see how everyone thinks Say two people make a copy of Moses's third grade test one copy is true and one copy is false the copy that is true is then copied but the one copy that was first copied is destroyed that was true which now of the two remaining copies are valid? Older does not always mean better and careful if you get your theology from anybody but God and yes most of the King James Bible is accurate pray for wisdom and seek who the Living God while he may be found I have found many to lie about what is there in the text from people who hate the book. I'm going to say that again I have found many people lie about the book putting words in its mouth that it never said. Or changing the words from its mouth because they disagree with it
@stillbobrb9
7 ай бұрын
There is a new translation, the Legacy Standard Bible (LSB). It goes back to basics, it has Yahweh in it replacing Lord. All I can say is it’s new.
@tehabnorm
2 ай бұрын
Yes make sure the believe HIS STORY , because as we see even today it's always recorded perfectly as it happened , just like that day in 2001
@lancecampbell4323
7 ай бұрын
So your primary source was written 400 years after the fact. OK. Excuse me while I finish my history of the great fire of Oslo, from memory of course. Yeesh
@JesusisGod15
4 ай бұрын
Why would you refer to it as 4th century CE? Do you not believe that Jesus ascended into Heaven? It’s takes away all reliability from your theory
@MichaelAndrews-uy1gl
6 ай бұрын
Yes...I can see the point, but prayer and fasting is not anything to get into a huff about. Good scholarship is important though, I grant you.
@jamesdolph437
7 ай бұрын
Ma
@notsure2105
7 ай бұрын
Oldest doesn’t mean most correct. Because they used the minority texts not the majority texts. the minority texts come from one place Alexandria Egypt.the majority texts not being from one location but around the world and include entire bibles which you cannot get with the minority texts alone. So if God preserved his word on the minority texts and we don’t get an entire Bible or complete books of the Bible how is that those are most reliable? Common sense say they aren’t.
@laurenleclaire9512
6 ай бұрын
so how many other things are added or subtracted. I am 56 years old and had been in church from my birth to my mid 20s. Then started losing my beleif.
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