Hi. Good to see you “back” on KZitem😊 I’m the one that bought the Tuareg you tested here on your channel, the demo bike, and I absolutely love it! It has about 6500km now and no problems. This summer I rented a Tenere 700 in Lithuania, and drove about 2000km Offroad on all kinds of terrain. Apart from maybe the engine, the Tuareg is just as good or better in every way. The engine on the T7 though feels a bit torqueier and it definitely sounds better. I hope to fix that with a full exhaust at some point😉. So that’s a little status update from a happy Tuareg owner.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Thank you Morten, and I'm very happy to hear the exact one I rode is doing fine (guess it's because of good break-in 😆). Thanks for the update and I'll see you on the road in a few months!
@lynvigo
7 ай бұрын
Yes, if I see you around we can swap bikes for some kilometers. I’d be happy to try that PR7 also😉 you actually have a more rare bike than me😎
@HotRodRV
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely love the bike. Coming up on 10k miles with zero issues.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Nothing makes me happier to hear man!
@mrbase111
7 ай бұрын
I have 23000 and am super happy. But I had the following problems -> tank sensor broken, indicators and horn no longer work and the side stand sensor was destroyed by a stone.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
@@mrbase111 Thanks for sharing and too bad with the issues, although I don't think that's too bad at all, especially for an adventure bike that I assume have seen some offroad miles as well!
@aleksandaravramchev145
6 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC@HotRodRV @mrbase111 Have any of you guys made any mods to lower the bike? Im okay with the stock setup and seat but I think for overall use and daily riding it would be much more comfortable to have a solid footing on both feet
@MotoSwagger
7 ай бұрын
I think you've hit the nail on the head - I cant say for the rest of the world but in Australia there are very few Aprilia dealerships and reliability seems to be a very high priority for the ADV community here. My son bought a Toureg 660 around a year ago and has had zero issues, I've riden it and compared to my customised T7 it's a better adventure bike BUT I'm not getting rid of the T7 anytime soon. Keep up the great work and refreshing content!
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Thank you Craig, happy to hear both you and your son is enjoying your bikes. If I can share adventures on two wheels with my son when I grow I will be a happy man - enjoy my friend!
@eigenaar0191
7 ай бұрын
Had it for 1year and two months and put 20.000km (12.000miles) on it. Great bike, didn't like the looks, but it handled very well. Offroad too! Traded it in on an AJP PR7 last year. Main reason: Valve check every 20.000km, which is actually pretty good compared to the AJP. But I got quoted a crazy price for the 20k service, and decided to walk away. Apparantly, the valve check on this bike is a very long and technically difficult procedure. Which means I don't feel it's a true adventure bike. Not liking the looks of the bike helped in the decision, I like to look back at my bike after parking it and be happy with how it looks. Reliability was ok, but as said, I didn't test it past 20k. Had some doubts about the hot running engine, quality of engine seals, and the engine running relatively high up in the revs.
@antiR3ality
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@enriquejaimes3368
7 ай бұрын
Reliability is everything when you want ride to remote offroad places. That is why I am still riding my DR650. Not the most powerful, not the most equipped, not the most modern but boy it is reliable as hell.
@Talishar
17 күн бұрын
This is the bigger point. KTMs aren't trusted when you really go out into the desert or the wilderness in general. They're fun little trail toys, but most people would not trust one to go through the Sonoran Desert or a multi-day ride/camp trip through the Alaskan wilderness. When you see groups/companies doing long-distance off-road treks or tours, it's almost always a very basic bike from one of the Big 4, rarely would you see anything European being selected for this unless they have an overland vehicle following them with replacement parts and tools. Most of us do not have a professional chase vehicle with mechanic following us around as we go away from civilization. To have your bike break down out there turns a relatively short trip into a survival situation real quick.
@kymcopyriot9776
7 ай бұрын
I think you pretty much nailed it Johannes - a cloud hanging over reliability, and a patchy dealer network. Meanwhile…sending you warm, snow-melting thoughts from Australia, where it’s 40 degrees Celsius. 😊
@martyn_g
7 ай бұрын
Well, when PS are the supplier AND the retailer, there’s a problem. Very patchy in terms of the quality of the techs- and you only have one avenue if there’s an issue.
@BERZERKER888
5 ай бұрын
I bought my Tuareg new in November 23, 6100 miles in 7 weeks , from Daytona to Utah… limited highway droning, mostly 2 lane roads to Moab Utah… then the fun began.. off roading with the locals since I am an A Level racer in FTR (Florida Trial Riders, KTM 300XC) aside from the excessive engine heat, the Aprilia was 100% reliable with ZERO mechanical issues…. Have fun on your Mom’s TTR….
@ThePikoflex
7 ай бұрын
I`ve been giving this some thought, and there isnt much sense to why you dont see a Tuareg 660 at every corner during the summertime. But, that is only if you take into account what it is and how it performs. Because if you only take those two things into account, there should not really be any other valid competitor on the market. It has a fantastic engine, solid electronic options, it is lightweight, it looks awesome and has some of the best suspension on the "market" taking the cost of the bike into account. It should be the perfect bike. But then you take into account the lack of dealers and somewhat lacking reliability and you have your answer! I want to be able to abuse my bike and still having it run just fine. That statement seems quite odd, but if you think about it a bit you see that adventure-riders really abuse their bikes. You ride them in unforgiving conditions, and sometimes blistering fast. You have to rely on the fact that the bike can take that abuse, and even if it breaks you can just take it to your local dealer or order some parts to have it fixed. With Aprilia, you just cant do that. Of course it will depend on where you live in the world and what type of riding you do. All i know is this: Even the "best" of bikes can be entising, but at the end of the day you have to be safe and trust your bike..... with your life!
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739
7 ай бұрын
I went to look at one, dealer sold the 660 and the T7, I thought the 660 was very ugly, rear lights looked a mess as did the front end. I had no intention of buying a T7 but I did, really fell for the looks. I'd say it's more looks and image with the Tuareg, not really a cool guys bike, I've yet to see one at any of the racing I did last year, loads of T7 and 890s. Your right about parts, that is a big thing with the T7, you name it you can get it easy, better wheels, great suspension, dozens of different exhausts, decal kits galore - on paper the 660 is a better bike, but you make a T7 a way better bike very easily. Maybe the Eco race result might help with promoting the bikes capability
@vladimirilic3593
7 ай бұрын
I ride couple of bikes from different categories transalp 750 2024, t7, guzzi v100 mandelo, guzzi v850tt, scooters nothing literally nothing drives better than the tuareg it's pure magic... But not fan of the engine heat
@laurensdedonder24
7 ай бұрын
@@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 I am afraid you can't improve the top heavyness of the T7. Agree with the looks but the 660 is an overall better value package. Disclamer I own a modified T7.
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739
7 ай бұрын
@@laurensdedonder24 I don't think a bike can be better if you just think the thing is ugly. If it was all about better we'd all be on an 890 - but bikes are so much than performance and that is my point. Ive ridden and raced enough bikes to know what I like, I love my T7, got it to where I'm very happy with it, take my CRF450 out and it knocks the socks off it, but I feel good when I ride my T7, it makes me very happy. And that is all that matters, bike should make you feel good.
@MotoGuzziMoto
7 ай бұрын
You nailed the key reasons, reliability, manufacturer support and availability of spare parts. These are the top issues for an adventure bike, much more so than for a road bike or commuter where you are not too far from home or from getting help. I have heard horror stories from KTM riders too that they can't get replacement parts. There is also some mystique around the CP2, being one of the best mainstream engines with the 270 degree crank, desaxe (offset) cylinders, smooth torquey low revving nature, long service intervals and hilariously reliable. And the comparisons around which bike has the best suspension (the most immediate thing reviewers focus on), longest range or tubeless wheels etc are pretty meaningless when they can be modified to suit the rider.
@customjrod
6 ай бұрын
I've had both the tuareg 660 and a 2023 890 adventure r. The aprilia was hands down better in every category except power. The ktm ate its cams at 2200 miles and numerous other issues with that bike. The aprilia has been perfect so far and is an absolute blast the ride.
@notquiteanexpert74
7 ай бұрын
I've only had mine a couple weeks, but I love it so far!
@Mid-Life-Adventure
7 ай бұрын
Just turned over 3000 miles and have only had the “known issues” of water pump seal and fuel sending unit, but dealer warranty repaired. No other issues to date! Love the bike.
@toddpillow3074
7 ай бұрын
Are you suggesting that the dealer has resolved these two known issues for the long term?? If so, then why the hell doesn’t the dealer fix this crap before sending a hapless customer out the door. Very bad marketing…
@glenjeffs6182
7 ай бұрын
I'm from Canada, was looking at one last year, really liked it, but with bags added, I almost bought two cb500x for the price on one 660 tuareg.
@mennonitemoto5941
6 ай бұрын
I love it and mines been great, heavy to pick up in the sand, especially uphill when you dump it!
@ads_rides
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my tuareg 660 only had one issue that required the deal a temp sensor but you are on the money with the lack of dealer network and stories of a couple of bad issues just plague a newly released model the others you mention are well established models that have been around for years so will definitely sell better 👍 just my opinion but i would definitely buy the tuareg again if i had the choice its a great bike and still surprises me what it can do
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing - happy to hear your Tuareg is serving you well! The fact that you'd buy it again is the ultimate compliment to the bike 🙂
@benitodeorte2715
7 ай бұрын
They dont sell more because we all see aprilia as a second class brand. We see ktm as first class. Guzzi seems second class as well. I have a tuareg, one of the first ones, two times motor light on. Just reset in dealer. They say they have to fix something Next time. 8000 km only. Last bike was a kawa 1000. Zero problems in 35000 km, zero zero. But the tuareg is a perfectly conceived bike, that is why I bought it. I refused to think that italians dont learn. Regards
@patkennedy1
7 ай бұрын
This is a question I suspect many of us have wondered about, so well done for investigating it, anecdotally or otherwise. I test rode the Aprilia Tuareg before I bought my Transalp last year, for comparison, and agree that it is a very capable bike. Far more capable off-road than the Honda, with much better suspension - no question. But in Australia the Aprilia is very dear. My Honda was $15,740 total, on road. 12 month's registration, plus a few extras. As the first buyer here I 'got a good deal', and don't regret it, now 10,000 kms in. The Honda is very easy to live with, and is not my only bike. The Aprilia is a great bike, but costs about $22,500 on road here. A lot more. Unfortunately the local Aprilia dealer here in South Australia (a friend) has retired, such that there is no dedicated Aprilia dealership in this state, and very few in Australia. The other issue was the hot legs problem, which was noticeable on the Aprilia, but non-existent on the Honda. Also the seat height of the Aprilia makes anyone under 6' (1.8 metres) feel a bit insecure up there! Long travel suspension has its drawbacks. The seat itself less comfortable than the Japanese alternatives. More for standing up... But after a lifetime of Ducatis many were surprised at my choice of the Honda, but I would say that in this country the price and the engine heat of the Aprilia were the two main factors that discourage buyers, followed by the dealer/parts availability. But there is no doubt the Tuareg is a bike that deserves more support, both from buyers, and the factory. Its engine feels more revvy and 'urgent' than the Honda, which has a relaxed feel that suits this 'older rider'. I suspect that the average age of (new) ADV bike buyers may skew the statistics towards the more 'old person's model', whereas the Aprilia probably suits a younger, taller rider. The older ones more able to afford a new bike in the current circumstances.
@BraapTales
7 ай бұрын
Another great topic Johannes! If not for the Kove 450, it's very likely I would own a Tuareg right now. Two Aprilia dealers within 50 miles of me. I would actually take a PR7 over the Tuareg, but again, too impractical to get a PR7 in the US. The parts issue is the biggest problem IMO. Not gonna say what company, but I work in an industry that involves many machines and parts and one of our biggest partners is an Italian company. The machines are great, but getting parts is a nightmare. Even China gets parts to us faster. I personally wouldn't be too worried about reliability, more about getting parts. Anyway, the Tuareg won the Africa Eco Race this year, that's a great reflection on the reliability.
@emilenossin5098
7 ай бұрын
I traded my R12GSA for a T7 World Raid. I did not go for KTM because of it being too small for me and because of all the reliability issues I read everywhere (also confirmed by my dealer who was a previous KTM dealer). I didn’t go for the Tuareg also because of reliability concerns (I’m still traumatized by Moto Guzzi ownership), because of its tank volume size and because there are so little aftermarket options for it. I’ve modded the hell out of my T7 WR, so much stuff you can get for it to customize it to your liking. Loving it.
@anderskris
7 ай бұрын
Now I can’t wait to get my Tuareg out of winter hibernation.
@etruscanadv3296
7 ай бұрын
In my personal experience, I have seen more guys on a Tenere having to be picked up because of a flat tube than KTMs/Aprilias broken down.
@rorymiskimen5221
6 ай бұрын
Nice video, and honest assessment of the pluses and minuses of the Tuareg 660. Having discussed this bike on ADV forums with other riders, to me it seems like the biggest limitation to 660 sales in the US is the lack of nearby Aprilia dealers. I happen to have a dealer 20 miles away, but there are States in the US with no dealerships. Yamaha dealerships are everywhere, although actually finding a T7 to look at and sit on may not be so easy. Reliability is a tricky issue to consider, most evidence being antidotal, but I don’t see many serious defects being posted on owners FB pages, far fewer than for the KTM 890s. In this era of computer design, automated machining and welding, robust electronics, and bikes being build by multi-national corporations with resources for engineering and modern assembly technique, most MCs are going to be fairly reliable.
@J0risw
7 ай бұрын
I see quite a few on the road here in NL. But not nearly as much as T7 or 890s of course… I love mine. And I always prefer a bit of an exclusive bike (or car). btw I do have an Aprilia dealership in the city near me, that does help. Also, even the dealer admits the Aprilia marketing sucks… so that also plays a role I’m afraid.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Interesting point regarding marketing, haven't thought about that. I recall watching a few videos on KZitem about the Tuareg 660 and the effort behind making it, but not nearly as thorough and serious as the bigger brands. Happy to hear you are enjoying yours!
@SupermotoCentral
7 ай бұрын
I never see any in NL personally 😅 Aprilia their marketing is a lot better than it used to be, the bike won the africa eco race! But in the benelux indeed there is no more marketing
@gillesgenete9598
7 ай бұрын
When I had to replace my crashed Africa Twin CRF1000DCT, that I enjoyed over 45.000km, I tested them all mid-size adv. DesertX came 1st for handling but insanely expensive. T7 came last for weak engine, top heavy. The 1100Africa Twin was too heavy as I'm getting old. Norden901 didn't please me, having some electronic issue on test bike! Tuareg660 was the best for handling, equipement/price ratio. But I didn't like the hard gearbox, the high handle bar, while engine was a joy. I ended buying a 890R . Why ? Engine capacity, and bargain price at Tuareg price. About KTM reliability, I had several, 990adv, 450excf, 701E, 500excf, 890R now with 15.000km: never had an issue. Would the Tuareg be renamed 700 it may sell more, or increasing the capacity : we don't really need it but a usual biker has an ego to satisfy 😂
@MeerkatADV
7 ай бұрын
Lack of dealer support and reliability concerns. I've seen one or two out there but all were press bikes.
@gammabyte5918
4 ай бұрын
Hi Johannes, interestingly enough I own a Tuareg 660 since 2022, and back then I watched your videos about your jerky Husqvarna because my Aprilia jerks around too, never ran smooth with me, exact same behavior as you described. Do you observe similarities between the jerkiness of the Husqvarna and the Aprila you tested? Or is yours running smooth? I always wondered if mine is the only one, or all the Tuaregs do that.
@ferkuzuel
7 ай бұрын
Sales here at my local dealer have been very successful , but since the middle weight adv. Market has become wider lately we have more options and maybe more honesty on what bike will serve our needs and our type of riding and experience, plus also a new segment popping up with the smaller displacement bikes, not to mention that bikes are not selling as much as they were selling during the pandemic
@alongshaw125
7 ай бұрын
T7 rider partly for the lack of modes etc which the 660 has. My nearest dealer , I would not trust with a shopping trolley. 660 won the Africa Eco this year but unless you followed the race you would never know it. Risk & Reward. Why I would never buy the 660 or a KTM. May be brilliant bikes but my money , time and patience are limited so would choose less is more bike that the T7 is. Shame really.
@bionewsbydoctorplanet5518
7 ай бұрын
In my country (Romania) there are quite few tuaregs and many teneres. Reason? Tenere has a better look although Tuareg is also italian designed. Tenere runs better on low rews, less electronics which is a problem source in time History also helps - many old Yamahas on the market still running and many Aprilias scrap rusting in garages for many reasons First year of production form tuaregs was a test one - many electric and sealing problems. Now maybe are better but image was created.
@patrolus1
7 ай бұрын
As a owner of a KTM Norden 901 ;) I can say that reliability is a BIG thing ...But don't forget accessories availability ! - If I want to venture offroad into the unknown, I need accessories to carry all my gear AND protection for my fancy bike... KTM/HUSKY platform is around for a long time (most aftermarket parts will fit all bikes since the 790 came out) Its a very important factor for bike sales in the adventure segment..
@dcxplant
6 ай бұрын
Price, parts availability, dealer network.
@bretthawton
7 ай бұрын
Best designed bike for sure, but terrible dealer network and parts availability in the US. My bike is eating quite a bit of oil and has pitted cams and Piaggio/Aprilia says that's normal so no warranty work happened.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
I love the design of the tank and airbox, makes for a very well balanced bike! Too bad your having issues with your bike - is it a case of "scorched" cams like I've read about elsewhere too?
@bretthawton
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC Dealer told me it was scorched cams, then said no damage, then the tech that worked on my bike said my cams were pitted on a forum. Same dealer said they filed a claim about oil consumption, but they didn't actually file the claim 'till I called Piaggio directly about the issue a month later. Probably won't really know what my cams look like 'till I do the next valve adjustment...
@maximusmiles8435
7 ай бұрын
In a perfect world it would be entirely based on performance. But when you look at a map. Where is your nearest Aprilia dealership? If something goes wrong, and sometimes they do. No one wants the hassle.
@davidwood974
7 ай бұрын
I ask the same question about my Norden. Both bikes are great, don’t understand why both aren’t more popular
@marktaylor4277
7 ай бұрын
Goldilocks bike for me, just what I'm looking for... but 3 dealers quoted me £900 ($1,135 currently) or over for the 12,000 mile service! Not having that, then there's the spares availability. Pass.
@modzso2
7 ай бұрын
Hm, here we had new Tuaregs from 2022 in last december... And also it seems that the "what broke" part is an essential chapter in every Tuareg review :) I am curious that if it will change since Jacopo Cerutti won the Africa Eco race...
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
That's information I should have included, that's so cool to hear - thanks for sharing! I'm sure it wasn't a stock Tuareg, but still..
@modzso2
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC Pol Tarres finished 3rd but that was also not stock Tenere :)
@Lhotse510
8 күн бұрын
Here in the US market, which is likely the biggest ADV bike market in the world, I believe it comes down to simply name brand recognition and nothing more. Buyers in the US are not familiar with the Aprilia brand. Those that are familiar with Aprilia (sport bike owners) are not interested in ADV bikes. I own a 2023 Tuareg with over 5k miles. I previously owned a BMW GS and find the Tuareg superior in every way. It checks all the blocks I wanted in an ADV bike, light, nimble, low center of gravity, extremely capable off road, tubless tires, excellent suspension, all the modern electronics incl. cruise control, and it handles like a dream on pavement even with my knobby Motoz tires. Aprilia made the ADV bike that no other manufacturer could make because they have no other ADV bikes within their own line up to rob sales from (think new Transalp & Africa Twin). They are not going to compete with themselves and loose sales on their flagship models. I have had no problems at all with the Tuareg. Most (if not all) of the issues I have seen on KZitem with the Tuareg are due to the rider and how the bike was used and not a problem with the Tuareg itself. Issues like kick stand spring retainer bolts breaking off on large rocks are easily and cheaply corrected. Upgrading the air filter for dusty roads....no problem. You will find small issues like this with any motorcycle, especially new models.
@ogoshikimura5621
7 ай бұрын
I see the neighbors bike, and after he put 5k on it the bike looks old. Compare with a Honda or Yamaha it feels like his bike is 10 years old. There is nothing broken or not functional, but it just seems like it has aging issues (rust, faded colors etc.)
@ianesslemont5876
7 ай бұрын
Agree i would love to have a test drive but finding a dealer anywhere close with a demonstrator is impossible plus getting it serviced would be a long drive and over night stay every time. There is at least 3 KTM dealers within 100 miles and one a mile away.
@pal9878
7 ай бұрын
I tend to think it’s also a matter of general appeal. If the Tuareg more broadly were perceived as a more charismatic bike, I think slightly lower reliability would have been more easily accepted, just like with 790/890. Frankly, I don’t think it’s only about reliability and dealer network. I have never regarded the Tuareg 660 a charming bike (very much unlike the T7), but perhaps that’s just me. 😳
@DB-me3jt
7 ай бұрын
Not only reliability but also the availability of oem and aftermarket parts. And…., looks. It just reminds me of Sid from Ice Age.
@Szlejer
5 ай бұрын
Why? The same reason why KZitem is full of annoyed or disappointed Aprilia 660 owners... Just do a simple search. ;)
@spencervidal3168
7 ай бұрын
Interesting that you touch on the T7 reliability. I have read numerous comments on the failure of the frame down tubes on the Yamaha..
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
I recall a video made by Eric Lange (ride adv?) about that, and I think it was exaggerated to be honest. The down tubes only hold the skid plate and doesn't have any structural function. I would rather have the cheap down tubes break than the frame.
@paultannahill5043
7 ай бұрын
Yep, that's the primary reason I'm not on a Tuareg right now. I love my new Husqvarna Norden 901 Expedition, but if I had even one Aprilia dealer within 50 miles (I have 3 to choose from for my Norden), I probably would have bought a Tuareg.
@chriscleland7008
7 ай бұрын
Man on the moon, if you believe… From a 2023 Tuareg 660 owner.
@boomcity4942
6 ай бұрын
You will go down in history as the Plato motorcycle philosopher.
@JohannesDalenMC
6 ай бұрын
I take that as a compliment. I don't know Plato's thinking all that well, but at least it sounds like a compliment!
@ssmith954
7 ай бұрын
I do like the bike. Three issues for me: - Reliability. Too many reports of issues with the engine (including on the RS660). - Dealers. There are none anywhere near me. - Looks. That front light doesn't do it for me. Trivial and picky, I know. Also I didn't like the T7 (too top heavy), the Desert X (too big/top heavy, but lovely for the street), or any KTM (I owned a 690 enduro, which I loved, but quality control is poor and they need a lot of mods, and are NOT "ready to race"). Would like to test the new F900GS, which seems promising. Otherwise, for off road, may just settle with something like a Fantic Cabellero 500 Rally, which would be fine for my off road abilities anyway.
@burddog0792
6 ай бұрын
At least here in the U.S.: It's one part no dealers, one part wanting premium features the price of Japanese dinosaurs, and one part being scared of European vehicle reliability.
@deekox1
7 ай бұрын
6:03 I did a quick research on polish auction site. There is 20 Tuaregs vs 66 T7s so it is more like 1:3 ratio. PS both new and used ones
@greyfisher3897
5 ай бұрын
Wow you are a real statistician, there are more T7's sold, and they have been around longer, hence more for sale. Most beginners, newbies, jumped on the bandwagon with the T7, realized it wasn't a beginner bike and best left to stronger skilled riders with off road experience....that is my feeling. Could be that people are spoiled, not happy with perfectly great machines...always chasing the dragon, never getting familiar with one machine.
@glossblack1098
7 ай бұрын
Be good to see sales data and see how many T7s sold last year globally, compared to the 660 and others like 890. Cheers
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Before I made this video I thought this was information that was available to everyone. I wasn't able to find any info on sales at all. Would be really cool to compare. All I know is how many GS BMW sold last year and the number is astronomical!
@christophroither8206
7 ай бұрын
hi dalen. thx for sharing your great experience with us. i really like your content on youtube and i am glad that u are back. i have a big decision between two bikes next week. i am based in austria and usually i wanted to choose between the AJP PR7 , Husquarna 701, and crf300l. But i decided to not go with the AJP PR7 because we absolutely have no dealer here in Austria. So i am still between the crf 300l and the husky 701. Mostly i wanna go for light enduro stuff and TET. What are your thought?! it would be awesome if u give me a short feedback. thx a lot, all the best christoph
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words Christoph! Tough question, I'd love to have more information about your situation, trail availability etc. But if I were in your shoes and had to choose between the two, I'd go with a 300l and upgrade the suspension. On the 701 you pay for tech that I don't fancy - a quickshifter, traction control (it works well though) and ride by wire (but no cruise control stock). The 701 is also plagued by euro5-regulations which results in a very twitchy throttle response. The 300l can do everything the 701 can, albeit a bit slower, but at half the price. If you still want a 701 (it's an exotic bike no doubt), I'd go with a pre 2019 model, with the longer suspension and less tech. I hope this was helpful. My best advice is to test ride both if you can. Let me know which bike you ended up getting and good luck!
@christophroither8206
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC thx for your answer! i really appreciate that. my trail availability is not good were i live. i already tested both bikes and i really like the hondas size, but the power for me was not enough. :( maybe with some upgrades?! I would do a ecu upgrade and exhaust, suspension ect. on the other hand i like the husky 701 but here in austria its 13000 plus.. ok i could get one new for maybe 12000 or 12500 euro, but the downside are the running costs for the husky. also in terms of reability i heard a lot of bad things about this bike. :( but hands down - i like the huskys suspension and power. But for my needs (offroad, TET) i dont need 75 horsepower!! haha and yes i prefer Honda much more then ktm... i had a new 790r adventure and i had a lot of oil leaking stuff- on the 660 smc the same shit. Soooo hmmm i dont know. :D
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Based on your response I still think the Honda is the way to go. Some upgrades will help with power, but it will not be significant, and you'll quickly be putting so much money in the bike that it will be close to a 701. Could you get your hands on a crf450l? It will solve the power and suspension (better than 701), but the service maintenance will be a bit more frequent.
@christophroither8206
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC there are no crf 450 l in Austria. Yes with a lot of upgrades it will cost nearly the husky 701. oh thats a hard decision...
@everydaybiker
7 ай бұрын
You're back!
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
I am! I needed some time away from it all which helped a ton. I missed connecting with you guys through my channel, so here I am again. I think the biggest thing I learned being away is how nice it is to be off from all social media (except YT).
@everydaybiker
7 ай бұрын
@JohannesDalen I'm happy to see you. You're right, social media, for the most part, is very toxic. YT is all I do too.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Appreciate that Jim, it's good to be here again!
@adaptableadventurerider
7 ай бұрын
This is such a timley video Johannes :) my first ever bike was an aprillia rs125 6 month wait for parts 🙃 still own it actually rebuilt it next to my bed lol fun bike! Ktm 390s adv 2 years ago after lotd of big vstroms n gs's x2 rejected full of issues Lots of bikes later an im looking at the Norden 901 an dads looking at.... a 390 again i think its the excitement factor with the ktms and the fact they come with good suspension not exciting when they break though its a tricky thing an lots more thinking requried. Not alot of sub 175kg wet adventure travel bikes out there.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
I think a 901 with the pro suspension like Lyndon Poskitt would have been sweet! Could the new Cfmoto 450 adventure be something? If I recall correctly it's supposed to weigh 175kg wet.
@adaptableadventurerider
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC hi Johannes thanks so much for replying 😊 we were watching Lyndons videos along with your 901 vids last night :) i agree it looks like an interesting option especially with the ability to buy a used 901 then upgrade as you go, very interesting an I agree what you said about ktm n Husky reliability comments. I asked about the Husky on my instagram n so far it's a 50/50 split between ok and issues, a friend spent 4 hours in total assembly an disassembly (38 screws on the front unit) to get to the switch gear wire connector on a Norden but apart from that has been loving it. Had a few others mentioning issues, heat, wiring, coolant as you say i always check round my fasteners (ride nortons so that's a constant pre ride job or fings will disappear on a ride 🤣 just good practice to check :) ) Even though we had issues with the ktm 390s for balance to my previous comment :) I had one bmw 1200gsa 2014 that lunched 2 engines a gearbox, a final drive an had multiple esa issues and display issues l under warranty, my other 1200 was fine (but later found out it was the year with soft cam issues) then my 1150gsa needed a load of money spending on her after a with the previous owners lack of Maintenance. Then a Himalayan that only got to 500 miles an had to be refunded in recent times with a seized swing arm, 2x failed brake light switches, bent forks 🙃 and a multitude of other issues an then they couldn't get the parts so it got refunded, from what I've heard that's still an issue over here in the UK a friends been waiting for a catalyst for his meteor for 12 months under warranty. you never tend to hear about those issues with those bikes but mention the ones we had with the ktms 🙃 an the comment sections go mad as you said in your previous video. An then over a 14 year period I've had lots of Japanese bikes from the Iconic suzuki gsx 750 et, Yamaha rd350lc, rd250lc that I used to do 2k Miles in a week on (cost as much in fuel (not inc the 2stroke oil) as a gsxr 750 per mile) always reliable an then 6 modern suzukis all perfect reliability an 2 hondas fireblade and 300 rally again really good reliability no issues apart from Hondas super soft suspension on the Rally fixed that with a Rally Raid Level 1 shock when I had that bike :) It's interesting with the Aprilia as they make really interesting bikes. I know when I had the rs as a main bike the parts wait was a nightmare often the dealer wouldn't know when you may see the bits. At the time of the ktm issues I thought I'll never look at another one again (alot of that was with the ktm dealer as well) We are moving up to Scotland in a few months an will have 2x ktm/Husky dealers to choose from on our new doorstep for ordering parts as the plan is to self service this time round (the other was 4 hours away from our current house) I'm pretty sure I can fix a the issues on a 390 if they were to happen bar the condensation in the displays which is a shame. Really love that Norden display! An can't wait to see what the new 400 is like when it comes out. It suprised me that we ended up looking at buying a Ktm again but they seem to have some interesting excitement about them still along with good suspension out of the box, between the 390, Himalayan n 300 Rally the 390 suspension was really good. Have you seen a channel called motoeuro I hadn't really watched it till Last night he had a Tuareg an sounds like something went wrong an he's bought a used 790. Hope you don't mind the long reply but thought some of the experiences might help :) with the subject of reliability. Keep up the amazing work Johanness when you feel like doing the videos, I've ended up doing mine very random an when I'm in the mood for it really helped, your videos are always very engaging and thought provoking an great work An I feel sorry for you with the snow! Although it does look amazing we don't get snow like that where I live, hopefully it Scotland :)
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Oh man based on your many issues with the orange brand I don't think I'd ever look at one again, especially when your Japanese bikes have been reliable! I have seen Motoeuro and how the Tuareg suddenly disappeared without an explanation. I remember reading in the comments that he will talk about it "when he can", which sounds both dramatic and interesting. Appreciate the kind words and good luck with the move to Scotland!
@adaptableadventurerider
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC thanks Johannes really looking forward to the move, im a great believer in giving everything another chance in life :) I found it interesting when the issues happened with the 1200 bmw everyone was like ah its OK they put the new engines in, Himalayan they all do that as though its normal yet that was probably the one I'd class as the worst saftey an parts wise. an with the ktms as you said the reaction was super different most of the issues I would say were dealer caused by a lack of pdi. Been interesting now with the BMW 1150gsa you can really see its the turning point where more tech was just starting to creep into the bikes from generations earlier, although it's still pretty simple to work on. The perception of brands is such an interesting thing :) an yep my friend who bought my 1980s Suzuki GSX750ET just toured all over the Swiss alps oh it, they sure know how to make a good bike.
@thambu19
7 ай бұрын
More to do with dealer network that straight up reliability. KTM sells also because of the dealer network.
@lenbell1365
7 ай бұрын
Love this bike on paper, however in reality it’s always at the dealer for stupid problems witch is a pity!
@pilotobob66
7 ай бұрын
Awesome bike, but…… I plan road trips to BDRs, little alone nearest dealer is 3 hours from where I live to begin with, how many are along the BDRs? All the new bikes via their electronics need a dealer to even do diagnostics and I don’t want to spend big $$$s in a flatbed tow to a dealer not to mention the lost time and logistics. Unfortunately to me emergency service capabilities figures into the purchase.
@themosaito
6 ай бұрын
Johannes, thanks for the video. Yes, Lell Pavey loves the Aprillia, and I want to buy one, but the two things you mentioned are a deal breaker for me. I'm planning a trip to Alaska, and if my bike broke down and I had to wait months for a part I'd be completely stuffed. I couldn't do it. I have a KTM 690 that broke after 20K miles and KTM can't find out what is wrong with it. I might have to sell my beloved bike for scrap. Won't do that again. Thinking of getting the T7. My only fear is that many find it too heavy to pick up. What do you think? Is it impossible to pick up?
@joeyshmoey8514
5 ай бұрын
I have seen increasing availability of Tuareg 660 parts online. AF1racing online (in Texas) has most parts available in the United States. I have seen new radiators, headlights, and panels for sale online; so supplies are loosening up. More aftermarket parts are becoming available as well. Unless you can't bear being without a dealership nearby; there is no reason to avoid any Aprilia in the U.S. or Europe. I have a Toureg 660 and will be traveling the entire U.S. on it. If I were crossing Africa or South America I would use a DR650 or some other common and simple Japanese dual sport. Since my Tuareg 660 will never leave North America it is perfect for my purpose. I do like it that the Tuareg 660 is also winning offroad races!
@Angry-Lynx
5 ай бұрын
If u have build of 8yo girl then yes it might be impossible to pick up 😂😂 I'm skinny dude who never works out and I can pickup my 240kg AT without too much issue. It's not easy or light, but always managed to pick it up by myself if have to
@lachlancannard
7 ай бұрын
It's a nice bike, but for the price you can almost pickup a T7 World Raid.
@akoskovacs1337
3 ай бұрын
Aprilia puts all the marketing money in MotoGp now and this hinders true campaigns with real and potential customers, neither they have a true marketing team, who would regularly remind the audience and follow up. This shows not only with the Tuareg but the other products. Being an Italian smallish company they resemble many other Italian vehicle manufacturers' story - great engineering and products, design and the focus fades out there - because the next thing you need doing after making the right thing, is telling everybody about it. I wish they could all come around and successfully develop these activities of their companies, as they compete on global and against others who do fulfill the other elements of branding. Look at KTM or Yamaha, they are small ones too!
@nicolasfarbos5381
7 ай бұрын
Hello. For me there is a third problem and I think it is de most important one. They didn't invest in social media like yamaha did or KTM, we see their top rider doing crazy things on the bikes and that is what makes sales. And with the domino effect, social media is full of them and people thing " this is the bike I need" Look at your AJP, great bike but not much coverage. Now look at the kove 450, not many bikes avalable yet but they all want one. kove did a really good job in communication and they will sell many bikes. Sorry for my English, I am French😇
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Hello Nicolas, you're english is great - thanks for chiming in! You make a very good point, Aprilia doesn't seem to put enough effort into their marketing, and neither does AJP.
@gabrielkopp2036
7 ай бұрын
It has everything to do with not only reliability but lack of dealerships poor customer service long wait for replacement parts.. so it's all of the above
@nickredvideo
7 ай бұрын
My worry for a big like this is parts and mechanics being scared of it, in remote locations, Africa, Asia etc? Any views?
@holden3083
7 ай бұрын
Aprilia are known for road bikes not off road, the 660 is their first bike in off road…. Reliable yes if any manufacturer / dealership is going to ask a premium price for a bike yes it better be reliable, but reliable just isn’t hi on manufacturers list, but the premium price tag is tho. 🤔. After sales service is a must. Especially if they charge a premium price. Is it going to be a one off bike.. like the husqvarna terra 650. Great bike but husqvarna & Ktm didn’t want anything to do with it… let alone knew it existed….
@TylerMcCool
7 ай бұрын
Bc there are no dealers... =) Probably 10x or more Japanese dealers in the USA than Aprilia...
@krulidn
7 ай бұрын
I think you also have to factor in that people are also followers and buy on perception as much as they do facts. Regardless of what they'll argue. People see lots of KTMs and KTMs penetrate the dirt market. Aprilia has only a foothold in the sport bike market there there is much less of a cross over. So there's this self-perpetuating/fulfilling logic where people are hesitant go for a niche manufacturer/new entrant to a segment, thus keeping it a niche choice. Accordingly, Aprilia doesn't have the economic insensitive to just push out hundreds of dealerships to regions whilst their sales are low. So you can have the objectively best bike in the segment based off spec sheets and reviews, but if no one buys it, it won't build its brand via word of mouth and will remain a niche bike/unknown to the majority.
@llewellynpavey9160
7 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry. It’s nearly done 😂😂
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Haha! My popcorn is starting to get a bit old, but good things come to those who wait, right? 😆
@FcInfini
7 ай бұрын
It’s also quite a bland looking bike in my opinion. The 2024 colors do help, but of the middle-weight adventure bikes, I still find all the other offerings better looking
@Weltbummler23
7 ай бұрын
Because people either want a high hp street tourer or they want a lightweight dual sport for both on and offroad travel. The tourareg is neither.
@alanprice9938
7 ай бұрын
Yes, I think dealer network is the big issue. We have two KTM/husky dealers within a 25 mile radius of here, and more of all the others……. But guzzi/aprilia there’s nothing. I couldn’t buy one for that reason alone.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Hey Alan, great to hear from you my friend, hope all is well! Your garage is so complete you could buy whatever bike and still have six backups 😁
@alanprice9938
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC think I’d have to buy a bike trailer 😃😃 My neighbour has one that he lends me from time to time, but it’s only a single bike trailer….guess I’d need a double
@janzzen9095
5 ай бұрын
I dont know "why" it is not more popular, fact is, it isn't. I have been test driving it for quite some time and i think its an adorable bike. I could buy one, new, from 2022, for way under 10k (euro Germany) and i was tempted. But then i realized, he cant sell them to the dogs. And when i come back in 2 to 3 years, im blessed with a totally unsellable bike. No one wants them now, let alone over 2 years, warranty period gone and 35 to 40k kilometer on it. I passed, and i feel a bit Sorry over it, but on the longer term its gonna cost me dearly.
@neilrichardson3986
7 ай бұрын
Brilliant Bike,People are like Sheep and follow the crowd 🐑 🐏 🤦♂️🤷♂️
@danielwallnofer9273
7 ай бұрын
I think it's because Aprilia is an Italian brand and they don't stand for reliable. Even if it's just a myth. My BMW F800 GS had more problems at the beginning. Broken alternator, broken petrol pump. Broken seals and yet it was THE world travelling machine for many adventurers over the years
@the_explorerist
7 ай бұрын
Could it also have something to do with Aprilia's extensive adventure bike history?
@vladdehtyar7535
7 ай бұрын
I think there’s is another reason and that is appearance
@fcalin21
6 ай бұрын
Tuareg engine vibrates less and it is less snatchy. We do not know if Tenere engine is more reliable.
@mejiadiver
7 ай бұрын
I always ask myself what all this people mean with "in depht review" and "long time" with 10k Kilometer.... Thats not long at all dude. I habe a vstrom 1050xt with 80.000 kilometer in less than 3 years. Thats what i would call a real time review. And suzuki its pretty reliable. And still this bike starts to crumble in every corner besides the motor... So thats why i choose it over Ducati and KTM and even BMW. Those bikes will never ever drive more than 40.000km without a mayor issue. So yes i did like the touareg a lot whe i tried it. But di you really think an Aprilia will take me to North cap and back? Come on. After 20.000 km it will need something big that will not allow me to drive further
@MrEtnorb
7 ай бұрын
If the Kove 800x is as good as it looks, the Tuareg and the rest are in big trouble.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
It's the bike that I'm most excited for - do you know when it will be released?
@MrEtnorb
6 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC I’m nobody in the motorcycling world plus I’m in Australia Where it would be very well appreciated. Haven’t heard whether there will be Dealers here.
@terrywest5735
7 ай бұрын
You lost me at Fortnine.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Why?
@herissonsudo3571
7 ай бұрын
T660 is ugly compared to the T7. In 2024, with the red frame is a little bit better but the rear lamp and global aspect isn’t as balanced as the Desert X (another italian bike). Nevertheless I bought a yellow one as it’s the best middle weight ADV ;-) very happy and just the fuel sensor has to be changed (new ref now so 2024 version should not have this trouble) For oil leak, you have to check the screw torque on the engine (first thing to do) and again when the bash plate is changed for a "real one". Wheel spoke have also to be checked (as on a Yamaha T 1200 !) Huge improvement with decat’ and ECU reprog !
@MattPerry
6 ай бұрын
I don't like the looks of the t7! unless is the World raid version that is more pleasant.
@Whatreally123
7 ай бұрын
After the initial PR, i havent seen anything worthwhile on social media. I am not from europe aoni cant really speak on dealer network and parts availability but from a customer perspective, i can say their marketing sucks. Every motorcycle company has some crazy rider doing some crazy stuff on their bikes and regularly posting on social media. Yamaha has Pol Tarres, KTM has Chris Birch, Honda has i forget his name sorry 😂, and we dont see any such effort from Aprilia. Its oretty easy to give one such rider their bike and make them post stuff on social media.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Good point - perhaps the Tuareg 660 finishing first in the Africa Eco race will give them a boost?
@Supahbike
2 ай бұрын
T7 and everyone else. ;)
@rethinking-h8k
5 ай бұрын
Are piaggio not reliable? It's a piaggio. I don't get the reliability talk. Ktm are not reliable. 690 with valve guides, 390 with over heating.
@TheLRC
7 ай бұрын
Because it is a Honda/Yamaha copy. And then you would rather buy the originals.. 😉
@IAmYourReflection
7 ай бұрын
Hardly
@SupermotoCentral
7 ай бұрын
Bullshit😂
@TheLRC
7 ай бұрын
So.. two guys bought the bike.. 🤣
@IAmYourReflection
7 ай бұрын
@@TheLRC not me I have a Africa twin and drz400. It’s hardly a copy of anything tho and is actually a better bike in many ways. Tubeless wheels, can change rider modes on the fly, it saves your presets, premium suspension etc
@TheLRC
7 ай бұрын
@@IAmYourReflection buy it then, if it is so great 😉
@jessrumblin
7 ай бұрын
Lack of dealer network.
@IRLtrolls
7 ай бұрын
It’s not popular because it’s not reliable. Europeans don’t understand how hard the USA is on equipment. American adventure rides sometimes do 1,000 miles a day for days on end when touring across the very hot and dusty terrain in the western part of the USA. It’s just not engineered for that environment, same with KTM. The only adventure bikes you see with 100,000 miles are Japanese or BMW GS. I’ll see my fellow European riders saying things like “I have 5,000 miles on my Ducati and it’s been perfectly reliable” 5,000 miles is a joke to American riders. Thats a week trip for us.
@verlinswarey507
6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but this is the dumbest, most arrogant comment I’ve ever seen in the comment section of an ADV channel.
@Turbo_JAM
6 ай бұрын
But if you’re really doing 1000 miles a day…. Most likely you’re doing it on relatively straight roads (for sure it won’t be proper off road) …and where’s the fun in that?
@IRLtrolls
6 ай бұрын
@@Turbo_JAM You must not tour in the USA. We have to do 800-1,000 miles a day to get to different off-road sections in different states. I live in Texas. If I want to go do the Oregon BDR that’s 2,200 miles just to get there and THEN I ride off-road. Do you understand how far 2,200 miles is? Thats 3,500 kilometers. That’s Gibraltar to Warsaw, Poland. The European mind cannot comprehend the distances Americans travel just for fun. And no, the straight flat rides are not “fun” but it’s normal for us to suffer for long straight rides so we can go ride in a nice off-road are like the Pacific Northwest
@davidekahuna9003
5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you, you guys have so much open land there where you can actually ride bike for miles and miles in a day. And I guess this in long terms can, maybe, effect the bike also.
@janzzen9095
5 ай бұрын
Do you try to tell us a HD is more reliable??
@jpdninja5501
7 ай бұрын
$
@clroger4
7 ай бұрын
Uh because it id an Aprilia
@stevenlewis9047
7 ай бұрын
It is super ugly to be fair
@kalpetkoff
7 ай бұрын
Except it's an Italian and everything breaks.
@Speelbird
7 ай бұрын
Maybe… Maybe it is just because it is ugly? There, I said it.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Haha oh snap! I think the rear looks cool to be honest, but the tower and headlight is terrible, agree with you Dom!
@Speelbird
7 ай бұрын
@@JohannesDalenMC I mean it is not a Fiat Multipla, but still… But if looks would be the reason KTM would not sell any bike ;) Anyway thanks for the Video!
@IAmYourReflection
7 ай бұрын
No worse than the transalp or vstrom
@SupermotoCentral
7 ай бұрын
New colors are way better, they headlight it quite cool in real life
@nessuno7071
6 ай бұрын
crap unreliable bike
@beddccom
7 ай бұрын
IMHO T7 looks dirtier than the Aprilia. Or if you prefer, it looks more like a rally. :)
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Oh man I agree, the T7 looks so good!
@pal9878
7 ай бұрын
Oh, in all fairness I should mention that I have never ridden the Tuareg. 🫣
@BrakeMagazine
7 ай бұрын
It's coming man. I think you're gonna love it.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
This is like when I first heard about The Hobbit, I was counting down the days, excited as a little kid! Do we have a date or do I have to live in this uncertainty?
@SpyCRS
7 ай бұрын
Very good and interesting topic! As a Tuareg owner myself, and an avid researcher of everything i buy or want to buy, constantly educating myself with new info about anything surrounding motorcycles my "educated" guess is that Aprilia just lacks popularity with people who are considered target clients for adventure bikes, and they just don't trust Aprilia enough. It's quite the same with chinese manufacturers like Cfmoto or Moto Morini etc. All the mainstream major brands have had decades of offroad bikes manufactured and used so people have pretty good idea what they would get and many dealerships around the world already have them represented also because they are in this business for so long. It will take time and many model generations of proof that a manufacturer can build good reliable bikes.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
7 ай бұрын
This is a great question. One of the best adv twins out there. I really rate them. In Australia they aren't penetrating the market, which surprises me. One reason is the relative lack of service centres. Their build quality is excellent, great ergos, engine, suspension, traction control, low centre of gravity, the list goes on.
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
Hey Dave, nice to see you here, I just finished watching your Tiger 900 video this morning - excellent stuff! Yeah, it's a strange situation. Perhaps the Tuareg 660 winning the Africa Eco race this year might help their reputation?
@keithkeeble7483
7 ай бұрын
In the UK they could not give them away even with big discounts on list price and it because of the dealer network spares availability
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
7 ай бұрын
It's sad because the bike is amazing. @@keithkeeble7483
@andrewtreloar7389
5 ай бұрын
But Dave, they are priced way too high here in Australia. When, in other countries they are directly priced against the Transalp and the base T7 but here they retail for $22,230 for the base paint job. That's over $8k more than a Transalp.
@joeyfromtheblock5528
2 ай бұрын
I owned one in vic. Good luck getting parts, and good luck dealing with the worst dealership experience ever, and not having a choice to go anywhere else. All of that was enough for me to sell it.
@BRUNO5979
7 ай бұрын
I have a friend that wants to sell his Tuareg so bad. He's had enough with parts availability and customer service. Really bad.
@pavelshchors
7 ай бұрын
I have my Aprilia Tuareg since July last year - no problems so far. We have two dealers in Stockholm - more than enough for me:) I plan to put the bike for proper test this year - will see what it brings
@SupermotoCentral
7 ай бұрын
Just bought one in november, absolutely love it! Much nicer than a T7 imo.
@douglasalexander4348
7 ай бұрын
I’d rather have an off road bike that’s capable and reliable, commonly known as a T7, than ‘nice’ I’m sure you look very pretty outside a coffee shop.
@user-qq5kv2oq6x
7 ай бұрын
@@douglasalexander4348you're saying the Aprilia isn't capable? Whatever makes you happy Yamaha fanboys 🤷♂️
@douglasalexander4348
7 ай бұрын
@@user-qq5kv2oq6x Which is better off road, the whole point of buying this bike. The Yamaha. So Aprilia is prettier but less capable and more unreliable. But stick your head in the sand. I owned an Aprilia Mille for 7 years, fantastic bike, so that makes me a Yamaha fan boy ? Haha.
@kloppskalli
7 ай бұрын
... the Aprilia is just better and i know because I own a Tenere ... also Tenere owners have a hard time accepting that bullet proof reliability isnt everything in a motorcyclist's life but ... eh, whatever i know i am wasting my time with you @@douglasalexander4348
@JohannesDalenMC
7 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree sir. The Tuareg 660 is a better offroad bike than the T7, in almost every measurable aspect. Better suspension, lower center of gravity, more ground clearance and lower seat height. I would argue the CP2 engine is slightly more tractable, but the Tuareg engine is also excellent.
@joeyshmoey8514
5 ай бұрын
I bought my Toureg 660 on June 8, 2023 (10 months ago) as a gift to ,myself for having made it through a six hour open heart surgery about five months earlier. It was the perfectly sensible thing for a 72 y.o. guy to do. Right? I took advantage of a military veteran's discount they had at the time. I brought it home and haven't even ridden it yet because I was still too weak from surgery. It still has only 2 miles on it. However, in the past 10 months the Tuareg has aquired an adjustable suspension link (Altrider) that lowers the bike 1 3/8", crash protection bars, a beefy aluminum skid plate, tail rack, luggage, etc., and is ready to ride across the country. At the same time I have been in rehab and have gained strength substantially. I also updated and upgraded my riding gear. Spring is just about here and the Tuareg and I are finally ready for some adventure. But why the Tuareg 660? I am coming from last riding a BMW K100RS road bike. I rode dual sports for years before that. The Tuareg 660 takes care of both desires for me. The Tuareg 660 has the heart of a sport bike, and the body of a dirt bike. I haven't ridden mine yet, but the dual nature of the bike is obvious when you see the Tuareg in person. The looks have grown on me. I never liked the insectoid KTM look, or the beak on some bikes. I have come to like the distinctive looks of the Tuareg. Despite some concerns about reliability, and dealership availability - here is what has not been mentioned - Aprilia has a TWO YEAR WARRANTEE; while Honda and Yamaha have only a one year warantee. My Tuareg will have sat in a garage for 10 months and it will still have a longer remaining warantee than a new Honda bought the day I take my Tuareg out of storage. Aprilia backs their product with twice the warantee - that says a lot about their faith in their product. The Tuareg does have to return to the dealership at the 600 mile mark for an initial service, which requires Aprilia to update the bike's computer. After that, warantee service performed by any licensed motorcycle shop will satisfy warantee requirements. The only real drawback is the scarcity of dealerships, but with a new bike with a 2 year warantee I don't see much need for the dealership after the first service. Oil changes, tires, etc. can be done by any shop, if you don't do it yourself. Therefore, I felt fine buying a less common motorcycle - especially since it is most likely best-in-class. I also like the fact that I won't see many other Tuaregs on the road, for a while anyways. I plan on living from the back of my Tuareg 660 for several months at a time as I explore the U.S.A. via the TransAmerica Trail, BDRs, and any other place I care to ride. I hope we make a good traveling team. I also hope the Piaggio Group makes steady growth in the U.S. market.
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