HES FINALLY BACK!!! God I've been excited for this day
@benstephens4994
3 жыл бұрын
My issue with a 7 nations+ tournament is that it would lessen the tournament itself and it would take more weeks out of the already packed rugby schedule. Georgia do deserve more games against the big teams and I do think, up until a few years ago, Italy were not progressing. Their squad is strong enough now to comfortably beat Georgia and so I would agree with Warbs about a soft promotion/relegation game. Italy would almost definitely win it, it would give their players experience of big knockout rugby (They have never actually played knock out rugby at a RWC) and it would keep the fire burning under Italian rugby to keep moving in the right direction as if they don't the 6 Nations will move on. That said, they are a stakeholder in the 6 Nations so it is unlikely anything will change.
@flyhalfjack
2 жыл бұрын
Italy NEEDS to host a World Cup. Imagine how awesome an Italian Rugby World Cup would be.
@dude9318
2 жыл бұрын
YES! I AGREE im tired of the same nations hosting a world cup. Like NZ hosted it 2 times ENG hosted 2 times FRA will host it 2 times now . AUS will also in the future . I don't understand why they don't want rugby to he hosted by nations like italy or Argentina .
@TheMrPeteChannel
Жыл бұрын
@@dude9318 I don't mean to sound like a bigot but Roman Catholic dominant nations are extremely corrupt. Being Catholic myself.
@sebysebylee
11 ай бұрын
Most definitely
@hersheltriton3729
3 жыл бұрын
As an Italian I really appreciate this video, finally someone who doesn't talk trash about our national team basing his position on the results but not asking himself the reason behind them. I definitely agree with what you've said in the video, but in my opinion you missed the main point: in our contry rugby does not count at all, the sport scenary is completely ruled by football, who makes the big money, is seen on tv, is topic of debate and appears on the news and in general in any sport discussion. In such an environment, where rugby culture isn't even a word, with no actual resources and with the sport being played mostly in northern Italy, aiming to reach the level, this level, of the other 5 nations, is a very big bet, if not a joke. And if you take away the only remaining stimulus for young players (and also source of most of the money), the Six Nations, the entire sport environment would probably collapse, but almost nobody thinks about it. I just want to finish saying that, whoever speaks about a sport reality he/she doesn't actually know, should think about it a bit longer before throwing stones; but hey, no hate, it's difficult to realize how irrelevant rugby is in Italy if you don't live here. Peace
@luke32riva
3 жыл бұрын
I'm also Italian, and I just want to add something. The sport in Italy is based on private sport clubs (that have no money and rely only to the help of the parents and, if lucky, to just one or two "pro" coaches) that need to be attended by children after 8 hours classes, even at young age. In GB sport is a main part of the education, and that's an enormous point in my opinion. Schools take care of the sport education of children, in Italy often happens that some children can't even run properly, because at school they have just an hour of "sport" PER WEEK, and teachers are not even trained to teach sport education. BTW I agree with everything you said.
@hersheltriton3729
3 жыл бұрын
@@luke32riva Ah non avevo idea di quanto fosse correlato lo sport alla scuola nel Regno, grazie mille!
@morris9337
3 жыл бұрын
You guys should come together and try grow your sport in Italy.
@dude9318
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah football really does dominate the world .It sucks because it doesn't give a chance for other sports to grow. I like football but if other sports get more attention it would be nice.
@TheMrPeteChannel
Жыл бұрын
@@dude9318 ⚽ needs to be taken down a notch. Many want the WC every 2 years. It's getting ridiculous. ⚽ is too big for It's own good.
@joshuaowen6185
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thank you for this. I will forever argue for Italy's involvement in the six nations. The six nations should look into expansion if people do actually care about growing rugby and not their "only we are good enough" approach. One thing to point out is that Italy are stakeholders in the six nations and this argument of their removal is dead before they begin. Same goes with the URC if that becomes an issue in the future. "You chatteth shite".... Love it.
@jtwb5105
3 жыл бұрын
The timing - day after i start rewatching the old videos he uploads a new one! Hope youre all good bro, keep it up
@Personal_Chizo
3 жыл бұрын
I think Italy has had a top 10 U-20 side for the last four of five years now. They obviously have the money and it looks like they're finally doing things right. And yeah, I'd also like to see Georgia in a 7 Nations (when they have a PM who doesn't promote lynchings of gay folks, obvs).
@taffyducks544
3 жыл бұрын
Under 20s doesn't mean a thing. Wales have won an under 20s GS just once and they still produce Full senior sides that win the six nations. Its about cherry picking the best from these select groups coming through.
@morris9337
3 жыл бұрын
Keep politics out of rugby. Nothing to do with the game.
@omh9309
3 жыл бұрын
@@morris9337 It does if it relates to a country's image in an international competition
@matti9674
2 жыл бұрын
Are you surprised Georgia is a very homophobic country
@michealohaodha9351
3 жыл бұрын
This gives me hope for Italy. Fingers crossed for them
@shaneetsaha1176
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 🔥 the legend is here! I subscribed a month ago, and was eagerly waiting for a new video from your side. I saw your videos through lockdown there are really good and entertaining 😃👍
@duncandisorderly9445
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Now everyone comment so that the algorithm is nice to this good man’s channel.
@kieranl7933
3 жыл бұрын
It took France nearly 50 years to win the then five nations after joining. Italy joined 21 years ago and have been disappointing on occasions, although during that time they have beaten every nation barring England. I personally hate all the kick Italy out talk you get from the media, it’s dull and shows a lack of understanding.
@admiralbenbow5083
2 жыл бұрын
Then why not have a 6 Nations with a one up one down system every year, then everybody gets the same chance as Italy, including Italy. This closed shop stuff belongs in the past. I do not like the exclusivity.
@TheMrPeteChannel
Жыл бұрын
@@admiralbenbow5083 I agree. Have the 6 top nations of Europe be in the torny. Not automatic births.
@CallumBlyth
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a Euros style tournament in place of the six nations. Italy can still be competitive, Georgia play the six nations teams more often, tier 2 nations get more coverage. Could be hosted in one country although how many teams qualify and how? Could it be 2 groups of 4 or 6. Are there qualifiers for the tier 2 nations?
@marshal2071
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am Spanish it works be great to play sometimes a tier 1 nation to grow the sport in the country
@CallumBlyth
3 жыл бұрын
@@marshal2071 I’ve seen Spain and Romania at recent world cups so it would certainly be an interesting watch
@matarel324
2 жыл бұрын
Problem is the international player will not play with their club anymore. Euro style could be so long and i won’t see 6 nations every 2 years
@sebysebylee
Жыл бұрын
I think 2 groups of 4
@suphanatcramp9110
3 жыл бұрын
You have came and cured my boredom during my isolation! Love your videos. Massive fan!
@EdT-hj5rp
3 жыл бұрын
So great to see you back man, long may it continue!
@olglez9230
2 жыл бұрын
That's a very good point, about using Italy's growth as a template for expanding rugby in other nations. Their age group teams are very exciting at the moment
@fahimali4782
3 жыл бұрын
THANK GOD YOU'RE BACK
@mattnewsway9880
3 жыл бұрын
Francs entered the five nations in 1910 and didn’t win it until the mid 50s, so it’s a bit harsh to expect Italy to be as competitive as the other nations so soon after entering the competition
@antoinecdc4934
3 жыл бұрын
Yes but no, France won its first championship (Five Nations) 25 tournaments after entering the competition, you have to remember that between 1932 and 1946 France didn’t play the tournament (They were expelled from the competition amid accusations of professionalism, something that was never fully proven in fact), if it weren't for the lack of competitiveness in those years, France would probably have won its first tournament earlier.
@username9175
2 жыл бұрын
Did France have a 30 something losing streak spread over 6 years?
@mrsialeipata8615
3 жыл бұрын
Yeeah love seeing your content flash on my recommended.
@interfear1
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to have you back, Noah! Also Paolo Odogwu already capped for England recently. Do agree with your points with Italian rugby.
@calblake7883
3 жыл бұрын
Odogwu was not capped! He was brought into the squad but never got a match.
@damnischannel
3 жыл бұрын
Well...thanks for this video. I love the fact you used clips from the domestic championship final.
@charlottescott7150
3 жыл бұрын
Great essay as ever!
@Latete
3 жыл бұрын
good video ! good music on the background !! respect
@user-hw4gg1cw6t
3 жыл бұрын
Top video, hopefully youtube push it to a wider rugby audience as you (along with Squidge) are clear from other Rugby pundits TV and online when it comes to in depth analysis of key parts from positional player to the wider game
@diegomontoya8889
3 жыл бұрын
I have been a fan of the rising tide of Georgia's Rugby Team, and share your sentiments of expansion and getting the tier 2 teams better. Here in the USA, I'd like to see Canada, USA, Japan and the Polynesian nations all improve in the next epoch of Rugby.
@hughjorgen30
3 жыл бұрын
You really changed my thoughts on Italian rugby. Can't be dismissing them again after this. Let the Italians play.
@zanyzazza
3 жыл бұрын
The king returns
@sennenaddinall2013
3 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff man, I’m sure when Italy is competing with France you’ll be competing with Squidge keep it up!
@alastairwood7277
3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with Warburton but also your end summary, in that Georgia in particular but also Romania and Russia deserve a crack at top level rugby and shouldn't be subject to a 'glass ceiling'. But Italy do still provide tangible value to the competition, and therefore why not make it 7 teams and have a relegation playoff, that is more money for all involved more opportunities and somewhat a wake up call to not just Italy but to all teams that there is no taking your foot of the gas and to really try and push on.
@jurebaric5988
3 жыл бұрын
Man is back from a 6 month break and starts the video: ,,All right something that really pisses me off….”
@B42UC4
3 жыл бұрын
Argentina has proven improvement in the Rugby Championship far less time than Italy has had in the Six Nations. Italy is lacking in development, I guess, because they are not developing players in their local clubs. That won't be fixed by playing at the Six Nations. I believe a new six nations tournament with Italy, Japan, Georgia, Fiji, Samoa and Tonga would be amazing. Cheers!
@solinvictus1234
2 жыл бұрын
Argentina took 40 years and a WC quarter final solely to be invited in a major tournament. Argentina have 40 years of developing on their shoulders, Italy just 22 years. It's an huge difference.
@Timihaastrup
3 жыл бұрын
He’s back!
@murksy9684
3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@michelefavaretto627
2 жыл бұрын
I'm italian and obviously a great fan of my Azzurri, nonetheless i know we don't have the same level of the other five nations. The last 6N has been a complete disaster for us, from any point of view...not an excuse, but we couldn't count on players like Jake Polledri, Matteo Minozzi, Jayden Hayward, Braam Steyn, Michele Campagnaro: all of them are very important to us and their absence was a trouble, because we don't have good replacements, unfortunately. On the other side, two young men called Paolo Garbisi and Stephen Varney emerged, on crucial spots like fly half and scrum half, and this is good for the future. If we'll recover some key players allowing U20's to grow in the meantime, we could hope to be competitive. The head coach has recently changed, we hope it will mean something. Anyway, various italian players have recently moved to strong english and french teams: Paolo Garbisi at Montpellier, Tommaso Allan at Harlequins, Federico Mori at Bordeaux, Marco Riccioni at Saracens...it is very good sign.
@robertsmithson4802
3 жыл бұрын
Crikey, well done youtube's altorhithm for recommending this. It's so weird that the point you made about the improvement of the other NH nations is *never* mentioned in discussions around Italy. I mean Ireland went from Declan Kidney's dross to Joe Schmidt ffs. England, Wales, and Ireland were all ranked no1 in the World between the 2015 and 2019 World Cups, and Scotland were 5th, their highest ever. I'm glad someone else is also banging that particular drum. Couple of points worth adding: - Italy's strong performances in this year's u20 6 nations came despite missing the best player from that cohort, Riccardo Favretto. - You can see the work of Conor O'Shea and Steve Aboud throughout the system in Italy. The final of the Italian league was filled with players born in 97 or later, and Petrarca's *average* age was 24, which is crazy for a final. Basically these players are all better than what went before. - If we're looking at "overseas" players, Odogwu seems a long shot but Ange Capuozzo is a guarantee. Born and raised in France, but has only ever wanted to play for Italy (like Parisse), and was named in the Pro2 team of the season at fullback. We should see him in the senior Italian side soon.
@horatiohuskisson5471
2 жыл бұрын
Italy should host a World Cup soon. This will help increase popularity of the game
@fishnchips890
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the likes of Lorenzo Cannone, Vaccari, Simone Gesi, Giovanni Piantella, Manfredi Albanese, Allesandro Garbisi, Tomaso Mennoncello and others from Italy's u20s get game time for their clubs and possibly national team next season. I saw Italy vs Ireland from the u20s 6N and, from what I've seen there, there is so much promise. Albanese looks like a young Dupont and could give Italy another 9 (Along with Varney) that can provide a spark. Cannone is a huge work horse and Menoncello so strong, fast and skillful.
@xcskidog6937
3 жыл бұрын
Italy would be more competitive if a) the other 5 countries weren't allowed to stuff their sides with foreigners b) subs were limited to say one, thus reducing the impact of strong squads.
@davejordan267
3 жыл бұрын
Alexa play "Return of the Mack"
@DawnJarvis
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@adopancia7445
3 жыл бұрын
Italy U20 is some good squad, with some really good young guns!
@ed4pints
3 жыл бұрын
Hook it to my veins
@lukebartlett704
2 жыл бұрын
I personally think Sam Warburton has got it exactly right. I think Italy would really benefit from spending time away from the spotlight, as they spend so much time on the back foot and losing games, the chance to compete regularly in closer contests and improve their game. Also the “glass ceiling” point he makes is 1000% true. In the ANC last autumn, Georgia had so little experience playing tier 1 opponents and I think it really hurt them. I also think the point that ‘it wouldn’t feel like the 6N without one of the home nations’ is absolute tier 1 elitism. Yeah would suck for, let’s say Scotland, to be out of 6N one year but if they lose at home to a team having finished last of the 6N, I think that is fair enough. I also think the exposure this would give the second tier competition would be so valuable for growing rugby.
@SuperMessers
3 жыл бұрын
Thing is with the other home nations u20 teams is a lot of them are very subpar compared to their respective national teams, that’s why so many of the senior players are nicked from SA, England, NZ etc. so Italy doing them over isn’t such a big deal
@THEhorse137
3 жыл бұрын
Love that. "Father you chat'th shite" You're absolutely right.
@bobrong9645
2 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree, but let me put my two cents in: - I would love to see more Georgia (and Romania, Spain, Russia...) and them playing with top tier teams would have them improve, that's pretty much a given. On the other hand, the players' health should certainly be at the centre of the debate. - relegation/promotion would be a terrible idea: just because Italy usually end up last doesn't mean they always will, and if I could imagine a six nations championship without Italy, a six nations championship without Wales (2004), France (2014) or Scotland (2005, 2008, 2013, 2016) wouldn't feel like a six nations championship to me.
@Comic_Geek2001
3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video talking about adding Japan and Fiji to the rugby championship? Sorta like a southern six nations? (I know Japan is technically northern hemisphere)
@karlosdeevs
3 жыл бұрын
Return of the Enj.
@SwarleySwablu
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth having these borderline tier 1 teams to be playing against tier 1 teams often. It took Los Pumas 8 years playing every year against the Wallabies, Springboks and the All Blacks to finally beat the All Blacks.
@ymaohyd5140
2 жыл бұрын
I think a 7 nations isn't workable - one more fixture in a crowded fixture list. I feel that italy deserve their place in the top tier but we need mobility in European rugby and that's why I support the relegation play off system
@dude9318
2 жыл бұрын
Well i don't know hopefully they will get better
@fisheatsyourhead
3 жыл бұрын
i do like the idea of relegation in the 6n, but i see why pushing italy out would hurt their ability to progress and eventually compete, which is why warburton's comments are particularly tricky, because it sounds like a great idea unless you consider the drawbacks. And then there's the fact that we'd probably just be swapping georgia and italy back in and out and making it a lot less exciting than it seems like it would be. what i think could be great is expanding the 6n to include maybe one or two more teams, the downside being more games and complexity. I really like how football has the euros which has a lot of teams competing and so gives smaller nations the opportunity to play against larger ones, but also the 6n is so great because of the fact that it's so non-diluted with meaningless games that basically every game is worth watching when the title is close or you support any of teams competing.
@jbmboy
3 жыл бұрын
I have two issues with the promotion/relegation idea. Firstly, a one off game to between whoever finished last in the six nations and top of the Rugby Europe championship doesn't necessarily prove who the better team is. There have been many upsets in world Rugby so at the very least I believe this would have to be a 3 test series (home, away and neutral ground) to give both sides a fair chance. My other issue is that in any individual year there are teams that under perform or over perform at their prospective levels. Nobody is suggesting France should exit the 6 Nations but before Italy begun their long losing streak France had finished last in the table (as had other nations). To combat this it may be an idea to do a cumulative score over a 4 year cycle. Whoever has the lowest total points plays a test series against whoever achieved the highest cumulative score in the Rugby Europe championship. The other advantage to this happening every 4 years is that it gives new teams the chance to learn from the challenges presented by this higher level of sport and subsequently improve the following year. If a team and coach is unable to do so over a 4 year world cup cycle then I say let the test series begin! Thanks for reading.
@hamblyl
2 жыл бұрын
2 things which should never be overlooked when considering changing the Northern Hemisphere annual competition... 1. There has to be an opportunity for a Grand Slam - everyone has to play everyone. 2. There has to be an even number of teams - "off weeks" are awful, we never want to go back to that. Not only the tedium of your team sitting the weekend out but titles and grand slams being decided before the final weekend, ffs! So, if Georgia... then who else, too? And are 7 games too many?
@nice1256
3 жыл бұрын
If you add a team you give Italy one more to beat. And it may spark some more interest in the other Nations who play Rugby.
@toto-yesyesnono-1737
2 жыл бұрын
3:48 ay that’s me
@nickrobs3454
2 жыл бұрын
Italy derseve to be in the six nations people are forgetting italy ain't based on they rugby it's their football that has the most finical but can't forget they beaten everyone sept England in the six nations and also beat South Africa so italy are a team that has quality just takes time for them to all grow love the italy rugby from Wales
@bfnntb1567
3 жыл бұрын
France War the Italy of the 5 Nations when they first joined it took them about 30 years to be competitive
@loccitanot3474
2 жыл бұрын
Well we joined the 5 nations in 1910, from 1914 to 1919 no tournament cause of WW1, in 1921 we finished 2nd ( I’m sorry but it’s competitive , 6 participation and a « second place ») also from 1931 to 1947 we were excluded from the 5 nations (ww2 happened too) and we won our first trophy in 1954. From 1910 to 1954 we participated 25 times to 5 nations and we finished 11 times on the podium (1 win, 6 second place and 4 third place) the rules in term of points weren’t the same but since Italy joined the 6 nations in 2000 they made 0 podium in 22 years
@isaacandrews5330
10 ай бұрын
After the 96-17 roasting from the All Blacks, the 2nd highest score in history, I dont know how to be nice about it. They were dreadful.
@gregoryparkes-skelly8288
2 жыл бұрын
Ok. At the risk of invoking the wrath of the traditionalists. The growth of Rugby beyond the Top10-12 nations needs the Nations League concept to be in place. But one with at least two (ideally 3)16 team divisions. Eight from Europe and 8 from the RoTW. Split into 4 pools of 4 with each pool having two Europeans teams and two RoTW. Run during the June/July and November Test windows. This structure should be used to determine rankings and pools for the RWC with the 2nd Div. being the qualification for 8 teams in an expanded 24 team RWC from 2027. Take the Cup, Plate, Bowl, Shield format from 7s (so four teams each division) and use that to determine the overall Champion and rankings with the Shield division being the relegation zone. Each team plays their pool opponents home and away with the finals being held in the NH. If deemed necessary they could eliminate the Shield and go with an 8 team Cup finals system for the sake of the big blockbuster games to drive revenue. With the Bowl assuming the role of the relegation zone. The bottom ranked team at the end of the year gets relegated with the winner of the 2nd division being promoted after progressing through that division using the exact same format as the 1st division. My preferred model with a 3rd division would then look t lean on the regional championships involving the next ranked team outside of the top two divisions with the Asia and the Pacific/Oceania regions combined so we can have 4x4 competitions. Hosted in a single location with each team playing each pool opponent once with the winner progressing to a WR tournament held in the NH alongside the other 2 divisions in November. Again winner of the 3rd division gets promoted and last ranked team in the 3rd relegated. This would provide teams with increased exposure, more playing opportunities. Revenues and importantly mobility while not interfering with either the 6Ns or RC and avoiding the initial hand wring around the what I believe major misstep the first time round of insisting both be integrated into the structure with promotion and relegation.
@xcskidog6937
3 жыл бұрын
How about an 8 team tournament with 2 pools of 4, then semis, final and bronze matches between top and bottom 2 in each pool. Pools changed each year on a seeded basis
@username9175
2 жыл бұрын
Other than Georgia, who do you put in?
@Giubo
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like more to see a kind of European Cup, instead of the 6N as is today, let's make two pools and and 4/5 teams on each, it would be more funny. Rugby supposed to be inclusive not exclusive.
@charlespirate1
2 жыл бұрын
Good vid. But can we lose the jazz? Very distracting.
@theephraimite
3 жыл бұрын
Should call it the top 6 Europe nations cup. On another topic, while you cry a river for Italy, I wonder, have you done the same for Oceanic/Pacific nations that lose players to European nations all the while Europe holds down the Oceanic nations with eligibility rules? Thursday ngt - August 5, 2021.
@matts9474
3 жыл бұрын
garbisi!!
@AdamM7796
3 жыл бұрын
What Copying the NPC and Championship model and Doing it over the six nations and June windows. I think this would be the best way for the Euro nations B to get some top tier matches and still maintain the six nations buzz and the triple crown etc
@ConnorDoesRugby
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree. Sport is based on merit. I don’t think you deserve a place at the top because you might be good in the future, you deserve a place if you’re good enough now. That’s why promotion relegation is a great thing because if you’ve proven you’re not good enough someone else gets a chance to prove it. And also if theirs a parachute payment scheme like in premier league football it wouldn’t impact the revenue for a team who are relegated in the short term and you would probably expect an Italy to get back in the tournament the next year if they did get relegated. If you can’t win a game in 6 years you don’t deserve to compete in that competition, so someone else should get a go. It also stops the problem with Italy joining the 6nations too late. If they had a system like this in the 90s Italy probably would have competed sooner and who know what team they would be today. Teams shouldn’t have to be invited to play at the top level. If they are good enough they should just be there.
@solinvictus1234
2 жыл бұрын
And what European nation deserve the place of Italy, Georgians? Still haven't beaten no tier 1, not even Italy. Romania? Russia that was slammed by Italians 80+ points?. Italy is there on merit.
@sheldorthedestoryer9080
2 жыл бұрын
Italy under 20s beat England under 20s :)
@Jamie-ee4ll
3 жыл бұрын
Great video but the Italy U20s didn’t beat Ireland
@Jamie-ee4ll
3 жыл бұрын
But I agree with all the points you make I’ve shared the same thoughts for a while now
@michelefavaretto627
2 жыл бұрын
But yesterday Italy U18 did beat Ireland U18 :-)
@Jamie-ee4ll
2 жыл бұрын
@@michelefavaretto627 well done
@Jamie-ee4ll
2 жыл бұрын
@@michelefavaretto627 but it was Ireland clubs. All the talent in Ireland comes from schools rugby
@michelefavaretto627
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamie-ee4ll that Is the problem in Italy...we don't have good rugby schools enough.
@alternatehistorysports
9 ай бұрын
The 6 nations needs to carry on, but go back to being the home nations for the sake of tradition. Then a European tournament needs to be created, a little like the european championship in football, if about half a century late. The home nations will compete in that too, of course. And other regions are free to host their own sub tournaments like the home nations. And since I'm daydreaming about things that will never happen, I'd love a UK team in European and World Cup tournaments (Lions minus Ireland, except players eligible for Northern Ireland of course). And reunite the codes while we're about it!
@admiralbenbow5083
2 жыл бұрын
Italy have spent the past 20 years going nowhere. Thats my argument. They have contributed next to nothing on the field and there has been no improvement. This is not snobbery. The snobbery factor is that the 6 nations is a closed shop. It should be a 2, or more division affair with a one up one down system every year. The top division should remain at 6 teams, the reason being to leave a space for a side like Georgia, Romania, Italy or any other to play in the top flight if they win Div 2. It may well be that Div 2 would be smaller than Div 1 if that level was too high for the even smaller teams, but no matter. They would always have something to shoot for.
@solinvictus1234
2 жыл бұрын
Why, what improvement showed Georgia...playing each year with lower tier 2 teams for some easy wins? Cause is in that way they climbed the World Ranking. Still Georgians and Romanians defeated no real tier 1 on the list...non even Italy, and Georgians had the game of life against Italy in 2020. Your argument is silly.
@taffyducks544
3 жыл бұрын
"All the others can give the best teams a game on their day" Pal, Wales sit on 40 Six nations titles, which is the most. Yet another Rugby fan who sees Wales as something they aren't. England vs Wales, Wales has 40 six nations and a couple of Semi finals and England has 39 and a world Cup. Why do people still act like Wales is worlds apart from England?! Pre-conceived notions I suppose. Also, Scotland haven't improved that much, the Current Wales side is seen as their worst in over a decade and yet still produce a good enough team to win the six nations. And have lost a quarter final and a semi final to SA with an aggregate of just -6 points.
@adamgrimsley2900
2 жыл бұрын
They don't win any games,it's not snobbish to point out that they have haven't been competitive for many years. It's not a contest.
@dude9318
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the are not good. But i guess they do need the competition otherwise Italian rugby will die
@adamgrimsley2900
2 жыл бұрын
@@dude9318 well but should they be in this competition? They can play games still but no progression and no wins can't go on .
@Emjaygee1950
3 жыл бұрын
Warburton has it correct, Italy has been in the 6 nations since 2000 and haven't won a game since 2015. There should be a play-off with the FIRA champions usually GEORGIA , or better still, bring in South Africa in their place to help raise the overall standard. Also their best players play outside of ITALY and putting together an U20 team after 20 years is not significant progress. Another problem is their mentality, many of the players who get capped at U20 level see that as the pinnacle of their career and not a stepping stone (this based on first hand experience as a coach in Italy for over 20 years). PS. bringing in Georgia as well (thus creating a 7 nations) is not a viable option as the calendar is already overcrowded.
@gaelsimon1680
2 жыл бұрын
Yes ! Nobody said anything when Scotland sucked lol
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