Wow! Watching this for a second time. Articulate and clear.
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
♥️
@savedbygrace1176
4 жыл бұрын
Want to debunk calvanism? Use James 1:13 When tempted, no one should say, God us tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
@tannerfrancisco8759
Жыл бұрын
They just appeal to mystery and say, "We don't know how God can dictate and divinely decree ALL which comes to pass even the evil things, be holy and blameless and good, and still have this verse also be true. Its a mystery! But it must be for His glory somehow! We cannot know the depths...and sovereignty and...ELECTION! Did I mention election yet?"
@SugoiEnglish1
2 ай бұрын
Who said a decree is in the category of tempting???? Prove it.
@noahcole6856
Ай бұрын
@@SugoiEnglish1what
@bobfree1226
5 жыл бұрын
as a former calvanist,after intense studying on Romans 9,10,11 an so many OTHER scriptures,i had to leave that nightmare. i was Listening to John Piper a real hyper calvanist He said that GOD was responsible for Jesus Death and all the Sins.Wrong Mr Piper!! God knew that the only way to save mankind was to Die in our place.Jesus the god-man did just that.God used the evilness of certain men,that he knew could and would do that,but in no way was GOD responsible. He set the stage so to speak, set the time an allowed it to unfold.He put Judas an evil man and a thief who was out for himself, just like he raised Pharoah,but it was thier sins not GOD in any way. God must intervene in our history at times, in order for his overall will to be accomplished.which is to save as many as possible, and allowing the potential for SIN and Evil,but in no way does he ever author evil in any form.God created all things and scripture says it was GOOD!!
@adrianvarela8890
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob for sharing!!! 2Cor-13-14
@livingwater7580
4 жыл бұрын
Calvinism destroyed me and it was the worse and the most miserable I've ever been, it is truly wicked. it was a nightmare for me. God Bless kevin who has help thousands of us leave this gnostic PHILOSOPHY false religious system of NONSENSE. IM EMBARRASSED THAT I EVER GOT CAUGHT UP IN THIS DECEPTION. MY FAMILY TOLD ME IM IN A CULT. THEY WERE RIGHT
@kimberleerivera3334
2 жыл бұрын
Amen! GLORY TO GOD! PRAISE OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST! I'm so glad for you!
@kimberleerivera3334
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin Thompson! GLORY TO GOD! PRAISE OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST! It is GOD'S GOSPEL!
@siegfriedbartel7122
9 ай бұрын
We can make two observations from these born of God/born again texts. First, in every instance the verb “born” (gennaô) is in the perfect tense, denoting an action that precedes the human actions of practicing righteousness, avoiding sin, loving, or believing. Second, no child of God, Bible believer, saved person, would say that before we are born again we must practice righteousness, for such a view would teach works-righteousness. Nor would we say that first we avoid sinning, and then are born of God, for such a view would suggest that human works cause us to be born of God. Nor would we say that first we show great love for God, and then he causes us to be born again. No, it is clear that practicing righteousness, avoiding sin, and loving are all the consequences or results of the new birth. But if this is the case, then we must interpret 1 John 5:1 in the same way, for the structure of the verse is the same as we find in the texts about practicing righteousness (1 John 2:29), avoiding sin (1 John 3:9), and loving God (1 John 4:7). It follows, then, that 1 John 5:1 teaches that first God grants us new life and then we believe Jesus is the Christ. We see the same truth in Acts 16:14. First God opens Lydia’s heart and the consequence is that she pays heed to and believes in the message proclaimed by Paul. Similarly, no one can come to Jesus in faith unless God has worked in his heart to draw him to faith in Christ (John 6:44). But all those whom the Father has drawn or given to the Son will most certainly put their faith in Jesus (John 6:37). God regenerates us and then we believe, and hence regeneration precedes our conversion. Therefore, we give all the glory to God for our conversion, for our turning to him is entirely a work of his grace. John 1:13 plus transcript..bless you and thank you... kzitem.info/news/bejne/pKRplmaQaZWaenosi=cfc2FQiQJYnE3Pd5
@jimcarwest
7 ай бұрын
So clear. Thank you, Kevin
@jaygee2187
5 жыл бұрын
The din of the calvinist has grown silent.....so peaceful. I can hear bees buzzing, the birds singing, the calling of the ice cream truck in the next city....Elm street, I believe.
@kimberleerivera3334
2 жыл бұрын
GLORY TO GOD!
@noahcole6856
Ай бұрын
Does he think that calvinists aren’t saved?
@rob5462
4 жыл бұрын
Adoption, exactly Eph. 1:5 "with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times" Eph. 1:10 NASB i.e.adopted for the purpose of participation in that future administration.
@savedbygrace1176
4 жыл бұрын
Bahhahahha this bible verse came to my mind a second ago thinking of ways to use it against them. They say God is the reason for everything but this verse debunks them
@urawesome4670
3 жыл бұрын
The will of God is behind it, not of the will of man. “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,” Ephesians 1:19 KJV www.bible.com/1/eph.1.19.kjv Compare Simon vs the Eunuch in Acts 8.
@itlupe
5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the easiest verses to respond to (IMHO). All I do is go back to vs 9,10, 11 and 12.
@xskoalx
5 жыл бұрын
When I left Calvinism I came to this text, read it, and immediately saw no problem. Receive Jesus and then you are born again by God. Amazing how Calvinism clouds the Bible. Still would like to do a hangout or phone conversation with ya sometime. Would be fun.
@adrianvarela8890
5 жыл бұрын
GBY. 2Cor.13.14
@jtbtdlkt2012
5 жыл бұрын
I’m curious then....I’ve been scratching my head for a few weeks pondering this. So then Jesus’ death at the cross didn’t accomplish salvation, but only opened the avenue towards salvation? That doesn’t seem right. Also how do we reconcile Romans 8:28; all things should include man’s free will I think. And also is man’s will therefore sovereign over God’s will in regards to ultimate salvation; it just seems too iffy to say those things.
@xskoalx
5 жыл бұрын
That is like saying... I lay 1,000,000 bux on the table and say "It is yours for free, just take it." You come along and say "I will take it but you aren't really giving it because I gotta take it." Christ still did all the work for salvation. He still has purchased everyone of us. It doesn't matter if you take it or not he paid for you, but for it to be applied you must believe. Just like for you to have the money you have to pick it up. A Calvinist has to try to conjure up some dilemma here... It really is silly.
@jtbtdlkt2012
5 жыл бұрын
Student of Theology yeah that makes sense and I’ve also used the argument of someone paying your full share of a luxury hotel, paid in full, and all you need is to go and claim it at the counter; as far as both analogies go they make sense but I’m still confused on the other side of the coin. Like if a debt collector were after you with threat of jail time and someone paid your debt in full, but you chose not to accept their payment, then would it be just for the debt collector to still put you in jail since the debt was fully paid? It seems to me that it would be unjust to punish the person since the debt was fully paid.
@adrianvarela8890
5 жыл бұрын
@@jtbtdlkt2012 Stories and illustrations can help but some can hinder. If you use a false premise no matter your deduction the conclusion is false. Hope this helps you.GBY2
@DynamicGracer
3 жыл бұрын
David Pawson is a true teacher
@soteriology1012
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Calvinists is that they cannot get a person SAVED unless they become 'GOOD'. By 'GOOD' they may mean 'morally good' ie 'petty moralism' and/or 'dogmatically good' ie 'adopting & promoting the doctrine of Calvinism'. I am not sure just how Calvinists apply Calvinism to death bed conversions or accidents resulting in death shortly after conversion.
@lukegoettlicher6759
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another good teaching sir.
@coryalbright9798
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@GuyStPierre4love
3 жыл бұрын
Is it really God the One blinding the blind to their loss? 2 Cor. 4: 3-4. "3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
@HolyMolysDonutShop
3 жыл бұрын
These are 2 separate situations.
@kelseyvanevery7587
Жыл бұрын
I really like your teachings. May I disagree on one point. You say it is not faith, but trust in Jesus that saves. I say it is faith (as small as a mustard seed) which saves. Trust in God comes later (maybe minutes later) as we go on the path of sanctification with the Holy Spirit guiding. Your example "even the devils believe" to support trust over faith falls short. The devils believed because they had seen God. When Jesus was dealing with "doubting" Thomas Jesus said: "because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed."
@brandoc4o316
4 жыл бұрын
Is the power God gives the Spirit of Adoption?
@SugoiEnglish1
2 ай бұрын
You error at the start here. Why assume free will in the creature? Intuition? It certainly isn't in the scriptures. Free will was first proposed by Origen. Intuition needs justification from the text. But that "clear order" is no basis to latch onto as your controlling principle here. If it not by man's will, what is it that actualizes that receiving? The word “born” means to beget or to be born. The Greek indicates that God caused our spiritual birth. It also shows that we were born spiritually at one point in time, the time when we believed in Jesus. There is no you believe, then are born. It is at the same time. You are mistaken about some supposed time sequence here.
@noahcole6856
Ай бұрын
I don’t really understand
@charliemichaels452
2 жыл бұрын
OMG ... do I really have to donate an *entire hour* to get the answer? 😯
@johnjames3908
5 жыл бұрын
May God bless you Kevin as you bless others with the truth.
@myraride9563
3 жыл бұрын
clearly distorted by calvinism
@Dmlaney
5 жыл бұрын
so the adoption is the resurrection and inheritance
@selahlee
5 жыл бұрын
The heir receiving his inheritance
@livingwater7580
4 жыл бұрын
the redemption of the body.
@siegfriedbartel7122
9 ай бұрын
I want to make clear that I do not talk about any -ism. Neither this -ism, nor that -ism. No -ism here hihihihihi. John 1:13 in the original koine Greek-The Word of God...official real original Greek text...is born from above the operation of God only (a 100%gift)or is it not 100% not from God only? It is only a yes or a no. No room in between, no escape...Is that operation of being born of God solely Gods miraculous gift operation or is it not 100% the gift work of/from God only. That is it and that is all. Yes or no...is Salvation in the Bible a 100% in every way, aspect and necessary elements a gift...or is it not a 100% gift...if it is a 99% gift it ceases to be a gift. Because God cannot save me if I with my 0.01% voting power say "No" to God. It is no longer a gift at all..no more a gift at all. Salvation then depends (ultimately)on me, but it does not depend on God anymore...everything or nothing...Yes or No...again: What is even the human definition and Biblical definition of a giftin the NT and OT in the first place anyway. To get right to the bottom of all the universe: Is the biblical Salvation itself a gift or is it not a gift. Is all of Salvation a gift or is it not a gift? If Salvation in its obtaining thereof depends in word, thought,deed and in my body and soul and spirit to 0.01% on me and to that or any atomic percentage on me apart from God himself, by all human and biblical logic and meaning of khen/charis/grace it ceases to be a gift...it is no more a gift at all...ultimately, God depends on me for God to save me...by the way, in the last years I collected all those NT and OT verses which no one wants to talk about...they are being left out completely...all of them combined, to say the least, say that to be saved, that this is the gift of God,OT and NT. We only focus on the command, commandments, prerequisite verses, requirement verses, all those verses which command us to have faith , believe, trust, repent unto Salvation, etc...but there is a huge collection of those verses too which speak of repenting, believing, trusting, having faith itself being the gift of God too...The responsibility of humans and that all is the gift of God are two sides of the same coin.They run parallel. We do not know as humans where they meet, if they do meet at all. Nevertheless both are true...❤😂🎉😊
@KevinThompson1611
9 ай бұрын
According to John 1:12-13, Individuals are born of God by the will of God after they receive Christ. No reason to add to this simplicity.
@SugoiEnglish1
2 ай бұрын
@@KevinThompson1611 Nope. The word born is a key to determining. John 3 3-5...Spirit's work.
@rudyrodriguez7747
5 жыл бұрын
What choice, in your freewill, did you have in being adopted by God?
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’ve falling for the pelagian premise of presuming a philosophy of the will before approaching scripture. I don’t recommend that. The Calvo-Pelagian view of the will is not a good a priori frame work through which scripture should be interpreted. Also sounds like you’re confused about adoption, thinking that it occurs upon conversion. It does not. Romans 8:23 (KJV) 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. According to Romans 8:15-17, believers receive the spirit of adoption, but the actual adoption is the redemption of the body, which is yet future. We become sons of God by being born again, not by adoption. The “adoption of sons” is the redemption of the body that born again sons of God get when they are glorified (in the future). People are born again upon conversion, and then they are adopted when they are glorified. Until that time, they have the spirit of the redemption of the body, or the spirit of adoption. Always remember to define Bible terms using the Bible, and not cultural presuppositions.
@johngodsey5327
2 жыл бұрын
Free will has nothing to do with the redemption of the body
@Dmlaney
5 жыл бұрын
Galatians 3: 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
@5winder
5 жыл бұрын
You're triggering me... I have no NPC face. ;-}
@26vino
5 жыл бұрын
Who being the brightness of [his] glory , and the express image of his person , and upholding all things by the word of his power , when he had by himself purged our sins , sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high ; ( HEBREWS 1:3 [kjb] , the Lord Jesus don't need any help. / Dr. Hank Lindstrom ) -- || PRAYING for the Calvinists and other cult-members that they may see the light / metanoia !!! AMEN !!!
@myraride9563
3 жыл бұрын
amen
@Dmlaney
5 жыл бұрын
video froze at 52:00 was that an edit
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Had to add some comments that were left out.
@jtbtdlkt2012
5 жыл бұрын
🤦♂️. Yes I 100000000% agree that the Calvinist is obsessed with the will, God’s will. Please enlighten me on what other will there is one could be obsessed with; I venture to say that the contrary view is obsessed with a will as well, the will or man. Tell me which is more wicked Sir, exalting God in all things except when it comes to salvation; in matters of salvation then He must submit to the almighty will of man (tongue in cheek).
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
God’s will? Which one? The secret one you don’t know about? Or the one you guys think is a lie, such as what’s found in 1 Thessalonians 4:3?
@dschilling03
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd say if anyone is obsessed with a topic it would be this group. The doctrines of grace are powerful, comforting and by that grace I will NOT be walking away from them. To God be the glory!
@dschilling03
5 жыл бұрын
Well said mister.
@dschilling03
5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Trevino that is
@golightly5121
5 жыл бұрын
@45:36, Shoutin’’ and yellin’ in the pews would be fun! Looking forward to the Glorification/Adoption!
@tivmego
5 жыл бұрын
You do know that glorification is the final stage of salvation because you are always talking about a 'one-time-salvation'. LOL
@golightly5121
5 жыл бұрын
tivmego : You are laughing way to soon. We are predestinated to glorification/adoption the moment in time of trusting/believing in receiving Jesus as Savior. Maybe you didn’t watch the teaching? You are at least a one point Calvinist and don’t know it. You hold to the P. LOL
@tivmego
5 жыл бұрын
@@golightly5121 And predestination is simply about the end result which is ultimately the glorification. This was why Kevin quoted Rom.3:23. This also why save in 1.cor.15:2 is in the present indicative. LOL.
@tivmego
5 жыл бұрын
@@golightly5121 And I don't think you understand the P in TULIP if you don't understand the bible. :)
@golightly5121
5 жыл бұрын
tivmego :It is a done deal the moment of belief, sealed means just that, nothing will stop the predestined adoption/glorification.
@AIbot21432
5 жыл бұрын
Could not get past six minutes. The denial of total depravity is to say by works we can come to heaven and the acceptance to free will means you do not uphold the sovereignty of God higher then man. To talk about free will and not take a side means you are not seeking truth but only trying to defeat calvinism.
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
Our mission is to uphold the truth the the Bible and juxtaposition against Calvinism is a great way to illustrate what scripture does NOT say. We reject total depravity because we don’t think God is a liar. We also reject works salvation. Faith is not a work. The Bible presents faith as the opposite of works, not as a work. The “work” by which we are not saved in the context of Romans 3 is “the deeds of the law,” not faith. Faith is precisely the replacement. If you want s high view of God’s sovereignty, then start with the idea that God wasn’t a lying illiterate imbecile when he gave us the Bible. Not Calvinist Gos who was also sovereign would give us the Bible we have today. You can either have a Calvinist God or a Sovereign God, but you cannot have both of you think the Bible we have is true.
@AIbot21432
5 жыл бұрын
@@KevinThompson1611 you claim your mission is to up hold truth, yet all you try and do is pick the opposite of calvinism. In the video you say it doesn't matter if we have free will or not. Yet one shows the sovereignty of God and the other of man. If God says he will save you, it is not up to you to pick. It is also important to note calvinism doesn't teach determinism it teaches compatibleism. It is odd that you think total depravity makes God a liar. Yet you reject work based salvation so yet again you must pick. See you act like a leaf blowing in the wind unable to pick a side and unsure of what will happen next. Lol and lastly you claim you can either uphold the sovereignty of God or have a calvinist God. This statement alone shows you know nothing about which you speak. Calvinist main point is to uphold the sovereignty of God. Read my friend read and seek to understand a view before you try and bash it.
@KevinThompson1611
5 жыл бұрын
Calvinism picks the opposite of the Bible. Not my problem for simply pointing it out.
@AIbot21432
5 жыл бұрын
@@KevinThompson1611 total depravity says we are fallen because of sin and can't come to God through any work we do. (John 6:44)(Eph 2:3-5)(Romans 8:7-8)(matt 7:21-23)how is this the opposite of what the bible teaches?
@paulbrennan4163
5 жыл бұрын
All John 6:44 says is that God draws people to Jesus. It does not say that he repents for them, believes for them, or makes decisions for them. And if you read the *entire* chapter you will see that most of those being drawn actually reject Jesus. Read it carefully! And the answer to both Eph 2:3-5 and Romans 8:7-8 is given in John 5:24-25. Romans 8 is not talking about total depravity, but rather mankind's inability to keep the entire law and live by it. The fact that we are incapable of doing that does not mean that we lack the ability to receive a free gift.
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