Why Ace vs Doflamingo isnt a close fight kzitem.info/news/bejne/w5im2ql8cYuAgKA
@Pieceofshit236
Жыл бұрын
DUH OFC ITS NOT A CLOSE FIGHT DOFLAMINGO KINDA PUT OFF A FIGHT WITH HIS AWAKENED STRING BUT ACE DIED TO PRE TIMESKIP AKAINU IN ONE SHOT OFC ITS NOT CLOSE
@enderness5518
Жыл бұрын
@@Pieceofshit236 Akainu pre timeskip was already one of the strongest characters alive at the time, also, Ace fought whitebeard 100 times, and in the canon series about Ace, it was proven he learned advanced observation, and most likely advanced arnament and COC, in his last fight against whitebeard, he actually managed to push him into fully using his devil fruit destroying an entire island, and Ace even clashed with whitebeards nagita while coating his fists with fire. Ace is winning low diff, idk what u on. :/
@basillah7650
Жыл бұрын
Lol we did not even see how strong Ace was because he was weakened from being in impel down beaten and most likely without food because was getting executed. @@Pieceofshit236
@Zyoark
Жыл бұрын
@@enderness5518man even doffy could clash with old Whitebeard easily what u on?
@king_the_one3736
11 ай бұрын
@@Zyoark stop meat riding dolflamingo sure he is "strong" in his own way but no way in hell he beating ace the same ace that wanted beaf with KAIDO. King of the beasts kaido 1 on 1 bet on him kaido
@The_Andromeda_Galaxy
Жыл бұрын
This video completely skips over the fact that fujitora intentionally didn't destroy the birdcage, because he wanted to leave it up to the pirates to take care of the warlord's mess. Anyone with stronger haki than doflamingo would go right through it. That and Katakuri would easily be able to just shape his body and escape the birdcage regardless.
@firewallnuke147
Жыл бұрын
But then why would fujitora even try to help stopping the bird cage, and we have seen luffy in g4 has stronger armament than doffy so could luffy have destroyed the cage?
@Jangz_
Жыл бұрын
@@firewallnuke147he was simply following the strawhats lead, you think if they really were in danger he wouldn’t fight doffy himself?
@Bruhmoment1246
Жыл бұрын
@@Jangz_yeah but why would he take that risk when there’s so many innocent civilians on the line?🤔
@Sai-hq4qo
Жыл бұрын
@@Bruhmoment1246it was a huge gamble as he said
@monke9386
Жыл бұрын
@@Bruhmoment1246so he doesn’t lose his job probably
@gatehaus6410
Жыл бұрын
This is honestly an already settled "what if" right off the bat. Katakuri and Luffy have a power comparison fight where Katakuri matches and overpowers bounce-man. The same form that Doflamingo got dusted by.
@docomega7862
Жыл бұрын
You honestly don't even need to go this far. When luffy fights cracker, he says he has the strongest haki he ever felt. Cracjer is obviously much weaker than katakuri, and is confirmed to have better haki than doffy. On top of that, he performed better against gear 4 luffy than doffy did, placing him above doffy. By simple logic, katakuri is then way higher than doffy
@vengeful_awoken6611
Жыл бұрын
And that fact that luffy got stronger before then as well shows.
@diooffical
Жыл бұрын
but also many of his points didn't make sense like doffy getting hit by luffy was solely because of laws shambles and doffy was severely weakend by laws thing that friend his organs.
@davidakanbi767
11 ай бұрын
@@diooffical luffy got stronger before their fight so I don't think that matters much
@MihawkTopOne
8 ай бұрын
@@diooffical, that really doesn't matter much. We know Doffy gets overpowered by G4 regardless and we saw Katakuri's abilities matches G4 (and no time limit), which only widens the gap when adding future sight to the picture. Doffy just gets destroyed.
@Dbonesburneraccount
Жыл бұрын
Bro there are people who think CURRENT LUCCI LOSES TO DOFFY💀
@evgeniygerkus9242
Жыл бұрын
So, it's alright for Lucci to benefit from power creep, but it isn't for Doffy?
@HeilRay
Жыл бұрын
Feel like Oda would make it happen, and some would still be pissed.
@calebsolonas6085
Жыл бұрын
@@evgeniygerkus9242doffy stuck in prison bro with no role in the story right now he didnt get a buff untill hes relevant again
@heroldjaras9909
Жыл бұрын
luci will low dif doflamingo and mid dif katakuri
@evgeniygerkus9242
Жыл бұрын
@calebsolonas6085 I know, just saying that people are ok with characters they like getting unexplainable buffs, but apparently can't fathom the same happening with other characters
@cosmicvoid239
Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said except the part about the admirals not being able to destroy the bird cage. Fujitora never went all out, he even said himself that he doesn't want to harm the citizens. I believe fujitora could've broken the cage with a barrage of meteors but he chose not to because he wanted to protect the people of dressrosssa and he couldn't openly go against doflamingo cause of his warlord status
@IMO3530
Жыл бұрын
He withdrew the marines from fighting against doflamingo and his crew individually, but when it came to the bird cage he told the marines to go stop it. There two different things, him destroying the bird cage isnt him defeating doflamingo but saving the country.
@IMO3530
Жыл бұрын
his meteors were also getting cut up by the bird cage when he was fighting sabo
@cosmicvoid239
Жыл бұрын
@@IMO3530 yea I know but it's still so weird to think that an admiral can't break a damn bird cage so maybe if fujitora coated the meteors in haki he could have done a substantial amount of damage
@Giveloot
Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicvoid239from my understanding, you can’t cover something in haki unless you’re holding onto it or if your devil fruit is part of your body. So there would be no way to coat an entire meteor in haki (could be wrong)
@-loones54
Жыл бұрын
@@Giveloot you can coat bullets in haki, so maybe it's possible to coat a meteor.
@dennisrukaria972
Жыл бұрын
Katakari has the ability to shape shift himself. Remember he made himself a wheel when going after snakeman Luffy. He can become one and slide through the bird cage spaces.
@Sphealplayz2407
Жыл бұрын
Yeah karakul I low difs doflamingo
@guillerliammanansala1125
Жыл бұрын
@@Sphealplayz2407finnaly a fight where katafodder doesn't lose to 💀
@sheenakr7616
Жыл бұрын
@@guillerliammanansala1125 katakuri and mochi fruit is underrated lol, there r people who make katakuri look super op but some which sleep on him, katakuri never lost to luffy lmao why dont yall get that
@okashira073
Жыл бұрын
@@sheenakr7616 bcz they are slaves of their own agenda, i hate these people and i fully understand the weight of the word hate but thats all there is to it... for example i hate yamato and i take pride on it but she absolutely mid diffs katakuri so the conclusion here is powerscaling doesnt give a cent about our emotions, it simply doesnt
@okashira073
Жыл бұрын
@@guillerliammanansala1125 haki can transcend all- kaido among the most powerful people there are those who can see a glimpse into the future - rayleigh "there are things that surpass armament" - katakuri refers to his block mochi "if he didnt have that (basic conqueror's) i would have to step in for the position of captain - zoro during the battle at fishman island "awakening is the peak of devil fruits" - doflamingo THESE ARE ALL OFFICIAL MANGA TRANSLATIONS BTW!!! what we learn here is that katakuri is MASSIVELY hyped up for all that because he meets all these categories ESPECIALLY compared to his fellow commanders he stands head & shoulders above it yet all i see a biased guy like u call him katafodder and expecting to be taken seriously... he is the only commander of his era to have superior than basic armament application due to block mochi, awakening, 3 forms of haki, advanced haki AND speedblitz a FS user who was fully focused on his battle and dodge and infinite number of attacks against him AND I DARE TO TO PROVE ME WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING I REPEATED FROM THE STORY - king lost in 3 hits and 15 mins against zoro source ch1022-1035 and got fodderized alongised queen and plenty of troops against greenbull granted they were injured but all combined they surely are 1YC level - marco doesnt have a single W and has 3 L and couldnt damage the admirals AT ALL yet jozu could - sanji literally high diffed a DISTRACTED 2YC who nearly killed sanji with his neck when sanji had already his exoskeleton actively working, queen received many attacks when he was distracted which doesnt meet the fair and square 1v1 category and sanji still needed a distraction to finish him off with a 10 strike combo and collapse and never get back up till war was done LMAOO katakuri proved he was superior against a 1YC caliber wci luffy and never lost the fight by being physically inferior bcz the author literally went out of his way to not allow him for some unknown reason to use his awakening in his 20min battle against snakeman AND he wanted big mom out so he entrusted luffy and allowed him to leave since he already like and respected him but he also wants the freedom and the wealth and health of his siblings so its only natural he will put the sake of his siblings above his persona and reputation bcz they are the reason he built them for!!!! in manga kaido was asking where did snakeman's punch come from meaning he barely could even see them and katakuri was seeing, dodging, reacting and speedblitzing the very same snakeman who didnt had any speed boosts at wci he just had way better haki THEREFORE kat's feat is damn near top tier AND LASTLY oda literally nerfed katakuri's capabilities just for luffy to survive in the end and had to make katakuri anti big mom for that to happen!!! enjoy this bottomless L luffy fights the strongest from each group and he fought the strongest yc of the previous era ;)
@ronklain4062
4 ай бұрын
Next video why roger vs chopper isn’t close
@MK_ULTRA420
2 ай бұрын
@@abysswarrior Well yeah, Brooke has a spine but no balls YOHOHOHO!
@matthiasrauert8397
Жыл бұрын
U rly think Fuji couldn't destroy the cage if he tried? The arc makes it pretty clear that he on purpose is letting Luffy handle the situation. Also i don't think that the cage could even touch Kat since we saw him mold his body in different shapes to avoid attacks so honestly i think he would just slip through it.
@matthiasrauert8397
Жыл бұрын
@onepieceepisodes-xq2mm And he could do that unless u think Fuji is way weaker than a yonko commander.
@AvixEditz
Жыл бұрын
@@matthiasrauert8397 Beckman is strongest than Fujitora
@e.j5813
Жыл бұрын
No. You
@KorosLaugh
Жыл бұрын
@@AvixEditzFujitora slams Benn Extreme diff
@extremelynoobgaming4742
Жыл бұрын
@@KorosLaughextreme diff is not slamming bro
@KrowsVeil
7 ай бұрын
Couldn’t katakuri just like… Phase through the birdcage? He’s literally made of mochi…
@sasuukekuun.
5 ай бұрын
Haki.
@KrowsVeil
5 ай бұрын
@@sasuukekuun. what is that supposed to mean?
@sasuukekuun.
5 ай бұрын
@@KrowsVeil his birdcage would be imbued with haki meaning it'd negate katakuri's mochi
@DoctorShambles1
3 ай бұрын
@@sasuukekuun.Mochi would not touch the haki birdcage, kata can just slip through we already know he can shape shift with his df.
@Terence439
3 ай бұрын
I thought Haki only affects those with weaker haki
@chadmendiola9833
Жыл бұрын
It was pretty clear that Fujitora could have wiped Donflamingo and also destroyed the Bird Cage if he wanted to. He was sending a message about the government's decision in hiring Warlords. "But why was he part of the guys slowing down the birdcage?" He wanted to just slow it down until Luffy beat Don Flamingo. If the Straw Hats lost he would obviously stop Don Flamingo by himself pretty easily. Katakuri would beat Don Flamingo mid diff and it wouldn't even take that long.
@xmilian505
11 ай бұрын
it doesn’t say fujitora could destroy the birdcage unless im wrong
@Musket789
8 ай бұрын
@@xmilian505yeah but he easily. Could he just didn't because the rules kind of prevent him from doing so
@Buaya_9797
5 ай бұрын
@@Musket789 What rules?
@lupe8655
Ай бұрын
@@Buaya_9797 Navy can't attack the warlords thats why
@aidene.nguyen
Жыл бұрын
I'll like everyone to both read the manga and watch the fight: Luffy v Katakuri, many people like to say that Luffy v Katakuri ended with Katakuri losing consciousness. It didn't. 1. Katakuri knocked Luffy down first and was up before him. 2. Katakuri did fall before Luffy the second time, but 2 things here tell me he intentionally chose to fall, he was leaning forward and then he fell backward. Brulee hinted as much when she asked why he fell on his back when he was "falling forward"... And Katakuri smiles it off to which Brulee confirms that Kat fell intentionally. 3. The final clearer evidence that Katakuri was probably stronger than Luffy and chose to forfeit was the way he fell. His arms were by his side but as he fell, they raisedup as if he was being crucified. Now the question is, who, while fainting uncontrollably choses to fall backward while raising his hands? This tells me Katakuri wasnot physically overwhelmed but chose to forfeit. Now the point is, if Katakuri could roll with Gear 4 (Bounce and Snakeman) to the point where after 11 hours Luffy still couldn't beat him in a fist fight, then Katakuri is gonna pack up Doffy who was packed up by Luffy in less than 1 hour of in world time.
@cebbygamer8598
Жыл бұрын
yeah he just didnt have the will to keep fighting so he gave up. i have also heard a theory that katakuri used his futuresight and saw what would happen if he killed luffy and he didnt want to deal with that but thats just a theory
@VeryEpicGamer123
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t read all of this it’s probably facts
@okashira073
Жыл бұрын
you re overthinking about motions way too much u become ridiculous and make things overcomplicated, katakuri simply felll purposely because he wants big mom to be taken down, she abuses and violates the very same family that katakuri has the ambition to protect even if he has to hide his true personality, he realized luffys potential all along and when luffy escaped he even smiled... u dont kill a person that u like, respect and also entrust him with your liberation and your loved ones too!!! SIMPLE
@aidene.nguyen
Жыл бұрын
@@okashira073 Now tell that to the people who say Kat lost cause he was physically weaker.
@_-MG-_
Жыл бұрын
Or in my opinion he will look into the future if he kills him he will see gear 5 and he'll be like "Man... what actual... fuck...?" And leans back
@hitetsu9180
Жыл бұрын
devil fruit merchant vs haki merchant does not even work here, cuz Kat also has the same amount of mastery over his fruit.
@MartinHindenes
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri's fruit + armament haki is OP as fuck, he can basically copy all of Luffy's moves and do them better.
@basillah7650
6 ай бұрын
katakuri has a paramecia fruit master it enough to make it like a logia with his future sight
@hitetsu9180
6 ай бұрын
@@basillah7650 He has a special paramecia, if he had normal paramecia he would not be able to do the stuff he can. It was confirmed that his type is special paramecia.
@Yokai_Yuri
Жыл бұрын
Things to clarify. Fujitora COULD destroy anything Doffy could throw at him including the bird cage. Fujitora was just stopping the B.C without even trying to see the resolve of the strawhats and their allies. You'd think Fujitora will let all people die?. Secondly, Katakuri hard stomps dofflamingo and it is not even funny.
@Xindarah
7 ай бұрын
His other reason was also that he wasnt allowed to destroy it since doffy at that time was still a warlord hence making him part of the government
@shady8045
19 күн бұрын
He didn’t want to defeat Doffy (when he obviously could have easily) because he didn’t want the Marines being the ones who solved the issue of his existence. It was their fault than any of the events even happened because of the warlords (who he hated) and they weren’t owed the glory of saving dressrosa, and he wanted not only the world to know that, but for that to be the truth. If he beat doffy it would be like the crocodile situation, a good ol victory for the Marines, despite the fact that it was their fuck up in the first place. He knew they didnt deserve that and for things to change they needed to take the blow this tome, they couldn’t sweep it under the rug again like they did with the other warlords (Moria and crocodile).
@ichirakudreamer
Жыл бұрын
Besides fujitora being able to break the cage, Katakuri could certainly get out of the birdcage by manipulating his body to move through the gaps. It's like the most simple counter. There is exactly 0 areas where katakuri loses to doflamingo.
@EthanWinters-k4q
10 ай бұрын
you do have to take into consideration that Fujitora struck the bird cage but didnt actually try to destroy it because of his position as admiral so he slightly helped them.
@UniQxV
8 ай бұрын
5:27 katakuri can literally just split his body because his made out of mochi and not get killed by the string bird cage
@thunderlegends561
Жыл бұрын
Fujitora, I believe he could not openly oppose Doffy due to their respective status, if that wasn't the case i think he could easily destroy the birdcage
@kageno8165
11 ай бұрын
Few mistakes in this video.. 1) Doffy fought Luffy with a gamma knife right to the heart.. People tend to forget that. 2) Katakuri could literally just slip right past the bird cage by turning into Mochi.
@maozedong8370
2 ай бұрын
He didn't get stabbed in the heart, that would have been an insta-kill you fool. He essentially got seppuku'd.
@someguyidk4655
10 ай бұрын
To simplify late villain > early villain
@bjornhartmann6839
5 ай бұрын
+@someguyidk4655 Sir Crocodile has entered the chat.
@MrOrcshaman
Жыл бұрын
Of all the bad guys in one piece, Doflamingo gives me the biggest chills. Theres just something so deeply unsettling of having someone with the power to control other people not through mental control, but physically through puppet strings.
@rajatariq6498
3 ай бұрын
Luffy needed Gear 4 to Absolutely Destory Doflamingo, while he needed Gear 4 to literally just be able to compete with Katakuri. Katakuri Solos
@trytoo5167
Жыл бұрын
Doffy was afraid of Jack who wasnt even a first mate, get out of here.
@subscriberswithoutanythi-ff4zr
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, doffy doesnt have a chance
@50shadesofhappinessoffilip33
Жыл бұрын
because jack is subordinates of Kaido, he would slice jack in a half if he's not under someone's stronger
@essspada64
7 ай бұрын
Never was shown to be afraid of Jack, he’s only afraid of Kaido, stop lying lol
@eqmknguyen2251
7 ай бұрын
@@essspada64 how about craker
@Lucitaur
4 ай бұрын
He isn't afraid of Jack, but of Kaido.
@almy-qy1lf
Жыл бұрын
I think basic CoC is undervalued as useless. It's not just about knocking weak-minded people out, it's also a booster. Will is a huge factor in fights. The strength of his will is what carried Luffy in so many fights and endeavors. Like when he carried Nami and Sanji in the snow, to meet a doctor, when he fought Rob Lucci, when he saved Bon-clay in Impel Down Level 6 or the fact that he survived the hormone treatment, when he kept going in Marine Ford after reaching his limit, or when he fought Katakuri, getting beat up for hours. Will is what kept him going. People with stronger Conqueror haki have the strongest wills.
@gitgud1018
Жыл бұрын
Def a mini amp, i agree. not useless at all
@selwyntan4014
Жыл бұрын
Agree! People really undervalue the power of Conqueror's haki. It's a measure of your will being so strong that you overpower someone else's will without having to even touch them - its not like knocking people out is its sole purpose. It lures people to follow its user, and as Mihawk would say, that is the greatest power in the world.
@dsw-2898
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri folds low diff Simple 🤷
@TheProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
both are ace victims tho
@lucienhaulotte4049
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLotnot katakuri bro and doffy id argue its a 50/50
@derrickmiles5240
Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's close. I gas both of these characters, so this, in my mind, is a nearly Yonkou level clash. Doffy had to maintain birdcage, and Kat was going easy on Luffy. Not using mole in the second half is proof of that. So I put them both in my Younkou contender tier. I think Kat beats Big Mom, and Doffy beats BB. But neither beat Kaido, G5 Luffy, or Shanks.
@dsw-2898
Жыл бұрын
@@derrickmiles5240 Aight but i'ma debunk your claims also Birdcage legit did nothing to deteriorate his power and maybe did something to his stamina but that's not likely either And no Katakuri wasn't going easy He legit said i won't hold back anymore And on top of that katakuri isn't near big mom She mid diffs him And Blackbeard even with no devil fruits beats dofy🤣 He speedblitzed Shanks and gave him a scar which is better then whatever dofy has done Like i'm a dofy and katakuri rider also but i have never seen this much glazing
@derrickmiles5240
Жыл бұрын
@@dsw-2898 Stamina affects everything. So not only did you not debunk, you proved me right. Kat beats Big Mom cause she's too damn slow. And Kat was holding back in some way, or else he would have used his strongest attack with Mole. Oda even confirmed in an sbs that Kat was stronger than Luffy on WCI. So this shouldn't be up for debate. Doffy beats BB for similar reasons. He's too damn slow, but on top of that Doffy resists his entire strategy. Doffy can anchor himself to clouds so BB can't suck him in, and gura gura shockwaves are only really effective at close range. So Doffy just needs to say in the sky and rain down overheats and holy bullets, which BB will eat because he can't dodge worth a damn.
@manlight5035
Жыл бұрын
Nah, i don't agree with some points. 1. Saying that Doflamingo was getting hit by base Luffy showing a fragment where he forcefully gets teleported under Luffy's punch by Law basically catching him off guard isn't anti-feat, Kaido and Big Mom were kinda blitzed by the same trick, while Doflamingo had no problems keeping up with G2 Luffy until gamma knife. 2. Maybe i didn't get your point but what makes you think, that if Katakuri turns something in mochi, than Doflamingo can't turn it back? Haki superiority doesn't matter when it comes to DF interactions, while in actual mastery Doflamingo is slightly higher and both are awakened, at very least they have the same level of devil fruit master, while Doflamingo developed his fruit better and more versitale. 3. Luffy couldn't make Katakuri caught blood, because Katakuri was dodging all attacks due to observation haki, so Luffy just didn't even have opportunity to check if he can make him caught blood or not, but when Luffy landed hit, Katakuri immeditaly felt damage, and it was regular nameless punch of base Luffy, while Doffy took Red Hawk. P.S. Birdcage would be useless against Katakuri, since he can easily morph his body and pass through birdcage.
@TheProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
katakuri lucci victim
@manlight5035
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot Lucci is getting packed up, Katakuri gets it high diff.
@manlight5035
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot Nevermind, i saw you Ace comment, i don't have mood for troll talking tonight, broo.
@youngknowledgeseeker
Жыл бұрын
I give it to Kat but Doffy potentially could give him a high diff fight, mainly because of Doffy's intelligence.
@GLEN515
Жыл бұрын
@@youngknowledgeseekerbig Kat can see the future that makes his intelligence higher nothing Don flamingo can come up with Kat wouldn't have a counter for .
@yenlaj
2 ай бұрын
1:03 Ayo? "He hit Luffy from the back" Pause Gang What The Fuck??? You Gotta Reword That Shit Unless You Are Gonna Take That On The Chin😭
@Username74277
12 күн бұрын
Not that deep lil bro
@Maliciously1
Жыл бұрын
I think that this is accurate but the part about the bird cage makes no sense because the bird cage is wide enough so that katakuri can shift through the bird cage with his mochi
@theultimatep1e40
8 ай бұрын
Kaido, in his last few moments, perfectly summarised the One Piece Powersystem: "Haki alone can surpass all"
@jahmacsmall
Жыл бұрын
I always had a problem with doflamingos Bird Cage ability. Y was it so strong. This guy Was getting speed blitzed and coughing up blood from base form luffy and luffy in gear 4th. But the thing that really gets me is he took all of that while caging in not only an entire kingdom but numerous Haki users like an ADMIRAL, Zoro, Don chinjou (all conqueror Haki users). not to mention that was the Arc the straw hats received their grand fleet. Like I love doffy as a villain. But this guy is not Kaido. I think we should chuck this one up there with luffy actually defeating Katakuri in a 1v1. It was all part of plot to progress the story and add some tension. Oda used Doffy’s birdcage to show fujitora the warlords were abusing their power and he was fighting the wrong person. And Oda used the Kat fight to slowly show us strong Will and Haki can win against even the strongest opponents.
@subscriberswithoutanythi-ff4zr
Жыл бұрын
Kataturi would be able to survive bird cage in literally multiple ways,he can just pass right throught the strings using his logia like properties or he can even break the strings itself cuz remember ,luffy was able to break those string very easily in his gear 4th and katakuris haki was equal or even greater than luffys gear 4th at the start of their fight.
@KritsanpongPoungkerd
Жыл бұрын
mochi df aint a logia but it "can" act like one but yes
@subscriberswithoutanythi-ff4zr
Жыл бұрын
@@KritsanpongPoungkerd i said "LOGIA LIKE PROPERTIES"
@sirkfctho
Жыл бұрын
@@KritsanpongPoungkerd hence why they said "logia-LIKE"
@livedreamsg
Жыл бұрын
@@KritsanpongPoungkerd It's a logia for all intents and purposes in all but name. Heck, it was even introduced as one before it got changed in the volume release. He can create, become, and control mochi. I think people misunderstand him dodging haki attacks with future sight as him not being a logia, but he's only dodging haki based attacks. This is similar to what Aokiji did against Whitebeard in Marineford.
@mex728
7 ай бұрын
@@livedreamsg exactly, hes a logia, but not exactly, mochi isnt natural so it isnt a logia, but its also a logia because it acts exactly like one, if logias didnt have the requirement of being a natural thing mochi would be a logia.
@tinin7187
11 ай бұрын
The fact that Luffy had to go beyond the G4 form he used to fight Doffy when fighting Katakuri says it all. You generally don't see weaker villains as the story progresses in OP, and this fight is no exception.
@bjornhartmann6839
5 ай бұрын
@tinin7187 You are wrong. Luffy was fighting and beating Sir Crocodile relatively early and people like you thought this means Luffy is stronger than Crocodile. Than 500 episodes later we all witnessed in impel down, that crocodile was still stronger than Luffy. And of course there were a lot of villains in between these 500 episodes that were significantly weaker than Crocodile. Luffy vs Doofy was kind of similiar to this: Luffy never beat Doofy 1 vs 1, but had to relie on Trafalgar and half of Dress Rosa to finally take him down. On the other hand, Luffy did beat Katakuri 1 vs 1.🤫
@reggiesbush9699
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornhartmann6839it doesn’t really matter since katakuri >>>>> doffy. It’s not even close katakuri stomps doffy. Luffy was way stronger when he fought katakuri and had no Gear 4 time limit. The gear 4 time limit is the only reason doffy didn’t just get eviscerated by gear 4 in the first place.
@bjornhartmann6839
2 ай бұрын
@@reggiesbush9699 Again: where is this proven that katakuri > Doffy? As far as we have seen them fight, Doffy was the power level of Luffy AND Law combined, while Katakuri was the powerlevel of Luffy alone. You are right that Luffy was stronger when fighting Katakuri, but not "way" stronger; Luffy is not a saiyan, that doubles his strengh after every hard fight, lil bro. Im just connecting the dots here, have to admit that its all speculative since Oda is a lazy writer, he never bothers to explain his power levels.
@reggiesbush9699
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornhartmann6839 man can you even read? Yes it’s PROVEN katakuri>>>>>doffy. It’s a FACT. Read my comment again. It’s very obvious. Gear 4 luffy absolutely DESTROYED doflamingo. Doflamingo barely landed a single hit on Gear 4 Luffy. Then, Luffy gets considerably stronger, and decreases the Gear 4 time limit, and katakuri is equal to or STRONGER than Luffy in Gear 4, lands multiple hits, and effectively beats luffy. What are you not understanding about that??? Katakuri is stronger than Gear 4 bounce man, which is itself way stronger than doflamingo. Like this isn’t even close to a debate lmao the show and manga give very clear proof that katakuri is far stronger than doffy.
@reggiesbush9699
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornhartmann6839 katakuri>\=Gear 4 Bounce man>>>>>> doflamingo. It’s literally that simple. Doflamingo got fucked up by bounce man, katakuri didn’t.
@ValeTheOwl
21 күн бұрын
Honestly, I think the fight is closer than most people would think. One key difference in the fight between Luffy and Katakuri and Luffy and Doflamingo is that Luffy had no external help with Katakuri but he had a LOT of external help against Doffy. Doflamingo also basically had all of his internal organs severely damaged by Law before he even started fighting Luffy. He could use his powers to repair the damage somehow, but as Luffy himself noticed there was no way that he wasn't affected and weakened. I might also point out that Doffy also managed to endure a Gear4 Luffy long enough for the latter to run out of steam, and if Doflamingo hadn't been kept occupied by others while Luffy recovered then the odds are that he would have won. With that said I still think that Katakuri is stronger than Doflamingo, especially due to his advanced observation Haki, but Doflamingo is still an incredibly dangerous opponent who is more or less in the same ballpark as him. All it would take is for Katakuri to slip once for Doflamingo to get him. So I'd give an hypotetical fight to Katakuri 8/9 times out of 10... but despite these favorable odds it would still a really hard battle that would require Katakuri to give his all.
@0bstolerance
3 күн бұрын
Nah this is giving Doffy way too much credit. Doffy can quite literally beat Doffy tf up. In base. Luffy before even meeting Kat already became MUUUUUUUCH more powerful. Even if Kat messes up ( for some reason ) again & again & it somehow allows Doffy to land hits, they aint doing anything more than scratches on Kat
@tokenman12
11 ай бұрын
You have to keep in mind that luffy is doffy’s natural enemy. You saw doffy fight someone who doesn’t know the term despair. You saw him fight a wild uncontrollable bull. Doffy would do much better against ppl like kata and law. I don’t exactly know how doffy would deal with future sight but the man is so smart that i wouldn’t have any doubt of doffy finding a way to counter it. You also have to keep in mind lucci, kata and kaido are the only antagonists so far that haven’t underestimated luffy. Hence all of them won against luffy. I mean he spun the block cause that’s luffy but he still lost to them.
@Gooseman420
8 ай бұрын
2:58 cmon nearly 1000 comments no one sees fraudkuri?
@kylesmith7413
Жыл бұрын
I have some slight disagreements to the 1:1 comparison of Luffy vs Katakuri and Luffy vs Doflamingo. Certainly, I think we can all agree that Luffy is stronger in the Katakuri fight; however, and this is extremely important, Luffy vs Katakuri is almost a complete 1v1. Doflamingo was fighting Luffy, Law, every single canonical Power Ranger, Draco Malfoy, Pai Mei, and Liam Neeson. I don't see why there is an assumption that Doflamingo can't use his devil fruit on debris/ground changed by Katakuri but Katakuri can. I think the fight is actually pretty close but Katakuri still wins. Doflamingo shouldn't be an emperor if he is getting dusted by every emperor's 2nd and 3rd seats.
@gottesurteil3201
Жыл бұрын
The hilarity of this comment aside, I agree that there is something to be said about him fighting other pirates and getting injured. However at some point he and Luffy were fighting each other alone and at that point Doffy allegedly healed his own wounds (honestly not sure how effective that is suppose to be).
@berobero686
3 ай бұрын
@@gottesurteil3201 it wast healing, threads just keep shit in place until he gets medical help (gnome princess tears or doctor) or heals normally through time (he doesnt have healing skills or regen factors)
@zuljjin
11 ай бұрын
the story is centered around luffy, and these characters are just stepping stones to introduce and build new powers.. You cannot look that deeply into this, the Author on a whim could make either character strong enough to defeat the other.
@siroutrage1045
6 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s the spirit
@lilkimbu2817
Жыл бұрын
This form of conqueror haki doesn't only make u knock people out way weaker than you, it generally enhances your physical attacks like why do you think it powers up so much people and their feats
@jermaineoconchristoper
Жыл бұрын
Dude that's Advance Conqueror Haki where you can coat it with Armament to make your physical attack way more stronger
@megabladechronicles962
Жыл бұрын
Doffy and Katakuri only have regular Conqueror's haki, which is useless against people that arent significantly weaker
@noobmaster1484
7 ай бұрын
well, that is the benefit of the advanced one
@d3rduck
6 ай бұрын
Now imagine he were smart enough to spawn the strings inside his opponent
@thanhvuviet4717
Жыл бұрын
I think that this in too in favor of katakuri since we didn't really get to see luffy vs dofflamingo in his strongest physique. dof was 1v2 law and luffy at the time and has been weakened a lot due to him have to deal with the wounds and controlling people and the bird cage alone. we can't just assume that katakuri has better strenght in both physical and devil fruit since he didn't really get hit by luffy until the last minute of the match.
@jaycarson318
Ай бұрын
Before even watching this video, Katakuri STOMPS Doffy. He isn’t superior in Conquerors, Armament & DEFINITELY not Observation Haki.
@3Rayfire
14 күн бұрын
Who even thought that this was a close fight? Katakuri dog walks Doflamingo.
@cauldinkyle6359
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't Doffy just use his strings to pull himself out of the mohci? Why would he lose just because he can't escape in an identical way to luffy? I'm not saying doffy wins, he doesn't. But some of the reasons here aren't exactly clinchers. Just Katakuri being better in all base stats and having better haki and a more versatile fruit. It's "being later in the story" syndrome. But at least give Doffy the intelligence he deserves in this matchup
@supremebovid541
9 ай бұрын
Doffy is definitely my favorite antagonist. But Doffy gets folded by katakuri.
@Dracoboss98
Жыл бұрын
Doffy is almost equal to Katakuri IMO, he gets downplayed due to the fact that he took two shots to his innards by law, plus a red hawk, before the one on one even began. Luffy could never have beaten a fresh Doffy. I agree though, Katakuri wipes. If we say their offensive power and DF abilities are about equal, there’s no way Doflamingo’s possible durability advantage makes up for how strong future sight is. Doffy wouldn’t be able to hit him at all most likely.
@basillah7650
6 ай бұрын
Doflamingo was not fighting a fresh Luffy doffy would have been curbstomped if luffy had 100% haki in the fight as well
@turtletipper1851
Жыл бұрын
If Doffy uses the bird cage Katakuri could just turn into mochi and use observation haki to let the strings go right past him
@ECW1379l
10 ай бұрын
Or he can make the ground into mochi and use it to travel out from bird cage
@Ejkenshsjejehsu.
Жыл бұрын
Doffy has a completely insane devil fruit that he just doesn’t use as well as he could think about it, he could grapple his opponents and drag them around while being completely safe, he could create a string armor for himself, he could turn the ground into string and manipulate it so he could zip around easily or trap his opponents, his strings can cut buildings like butter for gods sake, imagine if he had adv conquerors, my man would be unstoppable, katakuri still stomps for now tho.
@pango4425
Жыл бұрын
Honestly ya. Katakuri's and Dofi's devil fruits aren't worse than Luffy's. They just haven't mastered them to the same extent.
@EVYKYAMIR
Жыл бұрын
Doflamingo flys around by putting strings onto clouds and he cant create armor out of string it would weigh him down and nerf him
@Ejkenshsjejehsu.
Жыл бұрын
@@EVYKYAMIR how do you know they are heavy? He clearly is able to throw them around very fast which isn’t indicative of it being very heavy
@tigertanaka9255
Жыл бұрын
@@pango4425i dunno if you caught up to the anime or manga but their devil fruits are most likely worse than luffy’s
@Galaxyisback
Жыл бұрын
No he doesn’t have an insane df he just is a complete master over it
@malaika-louis7807
Жыл бұрын
You are all forgetting that de flamingo was fighting luffy while having the birdcage and while controlling people and so much more. He wasn't just focused on the fight, which is why he underperformed.
@Gkamp98765
Жыл бұрын
I agree this is why doffy did underperform in the luffy fight and he would be an absolute monster if he wasn’t but I do believe that katakuri wouldn’t mop the floor with doffy but I don’t think doffy would be able to keep up a fight with katakuri for even an hour just because of katakuri’s future sight along with the fact that doffy got beat by bounce man and luffy had to invent snakeman mid fight and it still ended in sort of a draw due to both of them literally give it their all for 20 episodes. The only advantage doffy would theoretically have against kat is his devil fruit awakening and the bird cage but the draw back to his bird cage would be his energy los, kat would be able to stay on doffy and kill doffy quickly if he activated and this is only a hypothetical but if the birdcage has any of kats family you know that he would use every ounce of haki and energy to kill him before it can hurt his family. Now to his devil fruit awakening his awakening could be a problem to kat but I personally don’t believe that is would be hard for kat to either dodge or for kat to just use his mochi like body to dodge it or since kat is pretty battle smart I could see kat getting close to doffy while he’s shooting the massive sharp strings and turning his body into mochi and try to get doffy to hurt himself also doffy go beaten by luffy who had the hito hito fruit model nika but at the time we believed it was the gomu gomu no mi and as we saw in katakuri v luffy katakuri can do any thing luffy can do (except any gears) just better and stronger then luffys own attacks. This is my own opinion feel free to write back and explain your side I was just saying my own opinion on why I think katakuri would win in a fight against doffy. But it also brings up the question would kat win if doffy plays dirty and brings his own family into the fight?
@Gkamp98765
Жыл бұрын
I wrote way to damn much
@jahmacsmall
Жыл бұрын
The problem is he thought he was kaido, like u already on an island and can fly. Pack luffy up then if anyone tried to escape from the island drag they ass back. Yes that’s all opinionated and can be argued cause it’s hypothetical, but u have observation Haki to control an entire kingdom but u got base form, benefit of the doubt gear 2nd luffy, rocking ur world. Got u spitting blood. Come on, doffy cool but it’s a reason dresrosa was before whole cake Island
@Kangstor
Жыл бұрын
Forgot that Doffy also repaired his inner organs with his strings
@sava9e266
Жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter
@thebreakfastbandit7779
8 ай бұрын
lmfao no he didn't
@darkskinvz7639
4 ай бұрын
Lol he tried😂😂😂
@BUHBUHBATMOO
7 ай бұрын
To be fair if doffy used his bird cage mochi is very malleable due to it being a type of dough so couldn’t he just slip through the gaps in the bird cage???
@toilettofu05
Жыл бұрын
We actually learnt about advanced observation haki since Marineford. When Vista and Marco attacked Akainu, he noticed they had Armament Haki, but he shaped the magma on his favor just like Katakuri did against Luffy... That, or he just had stronger armament, but he would have been damaged anyways so I guess it was observation.
@Beam67
Жыл бұрын
narrative wise doflamingo should not be losing to katakuri and yall know it
@Animessloth
Жыл бұрын
nope
@BubbyBoy
Жыл бұрын
You throw around the word narrarive like you backed it up
@billybob4532
Жыл бұрын
One of the dumbest things I heard, if anything narrative favors Katakuri because he is literally the next main opponent after Doflamingo.
@Beam67
Жыл бұрын
@@billybob4532 next main opponent doesnt mean stronger, thats just a shonen trope. Doflamingo is the leader of a criminal empire thats directly supports the strongest yonkos criminal operation. Hes also a warlord celestial dragon and ruler of an entire COUNTRY. but hes supposed to be weaker than a first commander……
@Animessloth
Жыл бұрын
@@billybob4532 Well caracker took 11 hours to defeat luffy
@Bluefire6567
10 күн бұрын
wow i never wouldve expected that villains later in the story are stronger than the ones earlier in the story
@cincameron
10 ай бұрын
Few things I want to point out (Wall of text): I don't believe the base form of Conqueror's Haki is useless considering when Luffy and Doflamingo first clashed with it, it caused a shockwave that shook the Flower Hill and blasted Law away from the immediate vicinity. I'm sure it increases attack power by some degree, but not like how Yamato and Kaido used it, obviously. Doflamingo getting hit by Base Luffy can be exclusively attributed to Law. Law teleported Doflamingo into red hawk when his guard was down. Law landed Gamma Knife, which was stated on several occasions to have weakened Doflamingo to some degree (and it is evident when Luffy initially overpowered him in the CoC clash). Doflamingo was gradually regaining his strength, and by chapter 783, was back to dominating Luffy 1v1 before Gear 4th. Katakuri was not fighting a stronger version of Luffy until they began their 2nd match, where Luffy's Haki began to increase in potency. Luffy still made Katakuri cough up blood when he kicked him in the jaw with his first successful blow. Katakuri didn't have any other opponent to worry about, unlike Doflamingo who was fighting Law and took hits from him before Luffy could managed to land attacks on his own. Doflamingo was too tenacious even after suffering from Gamma Knife that Luffy believed he needed a stronger amp to take him out, because attacks like Kong Gun would be too ineffective. This is confirmed in the panels where he has his flashback with Rayleigh. I don't believe Katakuri beats him in raw physical stats and would need Devil Fruit amps to overpower. Doflamingo has also overpowered Luffy's Haki with his own, but this was only shown in the initial skirmish before Luffy was forced to fight Bellamy. People bring up Katakuri matching Snake-Man blow for blow, but selectively "forget" that SM is a speed-based form that focuses on acceleration and is weaker than BM Luffy (which was easily overpowering Katakuri like it did Doflamingo anyways). Katakuri only managed to pin/suffocate base Luffy, and he's not at the same level of power as Doflamingo, even when he was weakened. Doflamingo's Haki being weaker than Katakuri's is completely unsupported and Doflamingo has overpowered Luffy's Haki even in positions where he was weakened. I think people misunderstand the idea of "antagonists progressively getting stronger after each arc" just because some Shounen follow that rule. What, is Foxy stronger than Crocodile and Enel? Is Lucci stronger than Aokiji? Is Magellan stronger than Kizaru? In my opinion, the entire point of the Doflamingo-Cracker-Katakuri fights were to display Luffy's weaknesses despite having obtained incredible power after the timeskip. He was able to display more power and speed than each of his opponents, but he needed help to win in the end--except against Katakuri who he used to develop on his own abilities and finally close the gap between him and the commander-tier characters who would normally beat him 1v1. Law weakened Doflamingo and the fighters stalled him long enough for Luffy to prepare a one-shot KO. It was even implied that Doflamingo's stamina was running on empty by the start of the 10 minute CD and he was given no rest. Cracker's biscuit soldier's lost their toughness thanks to Nami and it allowed Luffy some reprieve. Katakuri ended up fighting Luffy honorably out of respect and let him keep getting back up until his Haki finally reached a similar level. Before defeating Katakuri, it was evident that Luffy's Physical, Devil Fruit and Haki capabilities were a couple levels below Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri's in certain areas. I'm of the opinion that Doflamingo is at Katakuri's level, and discussing a fight between them ultimately comes down to bias since it's unreliable to determine who would win when they both fought the MC under different circumstances and lost for different reasons.
@DumpsterD3v
9 ай бұрын
Bro Wrote A Whole Essay 💀
@GeoX242
8 ай бұрын
All this yaoping and katakuri still wipes
@stevefrench6191
8 ай бұрын
@@GeoX242 no way it’s not at least a close fight doffy is clearly on a similar level stop meat riding
@AnimeKat8849
8 ай бұрын
Well said, you made alot of good points.
@elijahewers2458
5 ай бұрын
Zoro’s statement that the crew gets increasingly stronger every time they go to a new island and Rayleigh’s statement that Haki gets stronger in the heat of battle definitely proves that Luffy was stronger against Katakuri than Doflamingo.
@MonkeyDfamGaming
6 күн бұрын
Katakuri is immune to birdcage💀💀💀
@garchonarcho
Жыл бұрын
“It was able to hit luffy from the back (PAUSE)” killed me bro im ngl 💀
@warmcoffee69
Жыл бұрын
Hate to say it but Doflamingo will automatically be stronger if he comes back into the plot and Katakuri doesn't. Plot is gonna plot even when it makes no sense.
@pzychosaiyan
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri and Doffy are both def coming back
@warmcoffee69
Жыл бұрын
@raikou_thunderking if they both come back and play a similar role (in terms of importance to the plot), katakuri would embarrass doffy. I just expect Doffy to get the Lucci treatment. Despite being in prison lol.
@Lyaagato
Жыл бұрын
except for moria.. that dude stay weak for an eternity lol
@basillah7650
6 ай бұрын
Katakuri taking big mom's captain spot he will be getting stronger and i can see him becoming a yonkou
@UniQxV
8 ай бұрын
I like how mingo just casually uses different temperatures to create different colours
@ekayn1606
10 ай бұрын
Kat got taken out in like 3 hits. Doffy got jumped and hung in there for a fat minute. String is a great tool for cutting desserts, so i think if Doffy lands a hit he wins. But thats highly unlikely. Kat wins 8/10 times
@coreywilson7326
6 ай бұрын
What?
@Firethorn.gaming
7 ай бұрын
To be fair about Jozu, Marco's fruit is broken but it isnt made for offence. Sure it has great offense, but his defense+healing factor+flight is what makes him broken.
@basillah7650
6 ай бұрын
Marco not doing a surprise attack to the face either
@combdude
Жыл бұрын
there is a misconception that doffy was the one who introduced devil fruit awakenings but the truth is we were introduced to it back in impel down with the zoan type awakening
@Kaisona2017
Жыл бұрын
No. We were introduced to DF awakenings back in Alabasta, when Crocodile used his.
@combdude
Жыл бұрын
@@Kaisona2017 impel down is where we were told that there exists something called a devil fruit awakening unlike alabasta
@demori2052
Жыл бұрын
@@Kaisona2017chapter??
@Kaisona2017
Жыл бұрын
@@demori2052 Not sure what exact chapter it is, but it happens during their second fight. Crocodile won that fight, by using his awakening to turn everything to sand, and then drained Luffy of his moisture.
@Max0x1
Жыл бұрын
@@Kaisona2017stop doing drugs bro, that's just a normal logia attack. Nowhere was it even mentioned it was an awakening. Kuzan did the exact same thing during marineford and it was just an ability, not awakening.
@crazy_acid77
2 ай бұрын
You aren't Doflamingo enough credit here. The fight is much closer than you're making it out to be. I do think Katakuri has a slight edge, but Doflamingo isn't that much weaker than Katakuri. You're forgetting to mention that while fighting Luffy, Doflamingo has already fought both Law and a navy admiral, had his organs rearranged, and is injured, and therefore is not at his best. Future sight or not, Katakuri could theoretically be overwhelmed by Doflamingo's string. Again, I think Katakuri does have an edge, but you aren't giving Doffy enough credit.
@animeshacharya4087
3 күн бұрын
You’re just delusional. Doffy is nowhere near katakuri. In op, when you defeat an opponent, you become stronger than him after the fight. That’s how things work. Now, luffy who defeated doffy was having hard time.
@enjoygary
Жыл бұрын
People are saying Fujitora could easily stop Doffys birdcage, but Fujitora couldn’t even stop the cage from moving. He could only slow it down. The way to stop birdcage is to defeat the user of the technique which Fujitora didn’t want to do, he let Luffy do it.
@Da-choppa
Жыл бұрын
Thing is, fujitora has his main strength in his meteor attacks, but he didn’t use them, he just used his sword against him, so chances are he could’ve broke it or stopped it with his meteor attacks
@ohlordohgoddadgotthebeltou2119
Жыл бұрын
@@Da-choppahow? They would have been turned into mince meat
@theguywhoasked2957
Жыл бұрын
@@ohlordohgoddadgotthebeltou2119except for Fujitora everyone else would die If he was like Akainu or Kizaru he would do it in a heartbeat
@famingo4363
Жыл бұрын
If Fujitora could easily stop the birdcage, it doesn't make sense for him to not do it. I get it that he wants Luffy to get the credit, but he definitely wouldn't like sacrifice the safety of civilians for it. The least he could've done is to completely stop the birdcage from shrinking if not destroy it
@fuziong999
11 ай бұрын
The fact Katakuri can actually become mochi and Dofi can't become strings should be enough to decide a winner.
@thetriathigamer1544
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri > Gear 4 bounceman Luffy > Doflamingo It's just that simple
@iseeyou7883
Жыл бұрын
it really isnt, gear 4 was easily overpowering katakuri until katakuri started dodging it over and over again
@cebbygamer8598
Жыл бұрын
@@iseeyou7883 it wasnt overpowering him because he didnt really even get hit in the first place. if you cant get hit by anything that makes you stronger than if you have immense strength
@gravito1573
Жыл бұрын
@@cebbygamer8598it was kinda overpowering him. He was about to fall on his back, until he used future sight and got calmer. He was definetly feeling those nameless punches
@Randulaith
11 ай бұрын
Katakuri is still my favourite antagonist Luffy ever fought so far. - And probably the strongest Commander of all Yonkos.
@itsukifrfr7222
Жыл бұрын
Even if he uses bird cage he still loses
@theslader3972
2 ай бұрын
Katakuri has a special perimemicia that acts like a logia
@richardstamm2144
Жыл бұрын
I think this might still be close, but still in Katakuri's favor. Two main factors First the fight we see with doffy vs luffy is after law's organ scrambling attack that should have been able to take down anyone regardless of power. Doffy didn't resist it, he just tanked the damage. Organs scrambled, insides destroyed, that should have been the end of it. He still fought like nothing happened. I don't think a lot of characters have the pure will to handle an attack like gamma knife and keep moving. Second is the mental game. Doffy is an absolute master of manipulation and unsettling his opponents effortlessly. Katakuri is too straight laced a fighter with clear weak points to be exploited. In a fair fight, it's Katakuri every time, but no fight involving Doffy at his best is fair. Even if this doesn't end in a hostage situation, Katakuri's future sight will be next to useless in the face of doffy's maddening talk. Without that, the fight can go long enough to make the outcome less certain. In most runs, I think the outcome is eventually the same, but there are worlds where it goes the other way.
@thatoneyokai5109
4 ай бұрын
Counterpoint, the speed of which the birdcage closes is completely up to Doflamingo as what we've seen of it, Doffy was just screwing around most of the time with how fast the birdcage closes. A great example is when they only had around 20 minutes left. The cage began to close at a much faster pace because Doffy knew he was beginning to struggle
@Stefanovic501
Жыл бұрын
even though katakuri is way stronger than doflamingo, 300 million bounty is too low for him
@gerardocovarrubias3058
Жыл бұрын
Do you believe that they will come back even more stronger or what?
@IMO3530
Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@gerardocovarrubias3058
Жыл бұрын
@@IMO3530 so when do you think we will see them again?
@IMO3530
Жыл бұрын
We’re going to see katakuri when luffy goes back to whole cake island ( luffys already told katakuri that he’ll come back to defeat big mom) I also think We’re going to see doflamingo again in the final stages of the story when imu starts to come out etc
@heroldjaras9909
Жыл бұрын
yes. all characters return stronger: bellamy, sir crocodile, lucci, ....
@gerardocovarrubias3058
Жыл бұрын
what about enel@@heroldjaras9909
@somepanwierdo5625
Жыл бұрын
We gonna talk about the birdcage argument being present even though we saw Katakuri turn his body into mochi to avoid attacks SEVERAL TIMES? Doflamingo’s birdcage would just go through the mochi and Katakuri would reform.
@inuzaka5649
Жыл бұрын
this dude is fluent in yapanese
@matthiasrauert8397
Жыл бұрын
Thing is Kats fruit is more versatile sure but in the end the true power of Luffys power lies in the gears which Kat can't replicate so calling his power superior is kinda iffy imo.
@r0kapls57
Жыл бұрын
Somebody calculated that a hit from Kaido with his stick can one shot 700 doflamingo
@heroldjaras9909
Жыл бұрын
katakuri will low dif doflamingo
@anormalmanfr
Жыл бұрын
After impel down buff idk if katakuri would win
@mister_meme3608
Жыл бұрын
@@anormalmanfrwdym impel down buff? He can barely move lol
@Tapedat_stk
Жыл бұрын
@@anormalmanfrimpel down buff? Are u using ur brain when u type? How is he going to get buffed stuck in chains all day everyday that were literally made to weaken him if he even gets out he's going to he weaker not stronger💀
@Ap7-b4k
Жыл бұрын
@@anormalmanfrBro thinks Doffy is Aizen
@andrei-cezarbleaje5519
Жыл бұрын
You think doflamingo is Aizen now ? @@anormalmanfr
@v_vexx
6 ай бұрын
"A devil fruit power will never change the world, only Haki will!" (or smth like that) -Kaido
@Tapedat_stk
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri neg-low diff
@TheProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
can he beat goku
@Tapedat_stk
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot can goku beat his own verse?
@pylotheric9777
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot we do not care. put goku on an universe where he cant summon lightbeams from his asscheeks and he getting stomped lmao
@cebbygamer8598
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot dbz sucks
@TheProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
@@Tapedat_stk tell that to the fanboys
@aceclover758
11 ай бұрын
Doffy was overpowered by Boundman His awakening only kept Luffy at a distance, it was not letting Doffy overwhelm him Katakuri was more than a match for boundman. Enough said Not to mention in terms of the main two Haku’s, Katakuri far surpasses Doffy
@deleted3792
Жыл бұрын
i think it could be a close fight just think doflamingo was able to control multiple people at once had a giant haki bird cage he was controlling and awakened his devil fruit without being too physically drained from the use plus luffy had help from law katakuri could win but its closer than being totally one sided
@okashira073
Жыл бұрын
it is literally one sided and ur actively hating "there are things that surpass armament" thats how katakuri refers to his block mochi therefore block mochi is tougher than basic armament and thus doffy stands no chance against it especially when kat applies it to awakening that could destroy boundman and he did, the same boundman eradicated doffy his speed is literally unmatched by every single commander there is so far, in the manga kaido before he used his future sight said about snakeman " i cant tell where his punches are coming from" this yonko isnt even tracking snakeman's attack speed and luffy never showed any buffs from wci all the way up to wano about his speed so his speed on wano is either equal or ever so slightly higher than his wci version and katakuri is dodging, keeping up, occasially outspeeding and speedblitzing snakeman who never managed to dodge katakuri AT ALL... this is literally a better speed feat than sanji, queen is just a trash coo user, kaido is KAIDO luffy was also using advanced coo against katakuri and katakuri still did all that and more doflamingo was getting speedblitzed into oblivion by bounceman a slower form than snakeman!!! combine bounceman toughness and snakeman's speed into a guy that doesnt have stamina issues like luffy when he enters these forms + awakening + mole trident + future sight = low diff kiss goodbye never powerscale again, i bet u jerk on marco who couldnt hurt the admirals, never won a fight, has 3 L AND GOT HANDCUFFED BY A VICE ADMIRAL WHO DIDNT BLINDSIDE HIM INSTEAD HE JUST REACTED TO MARCOS SPEED AND GG EZ LMAO!!!
@nickmann1628
7 ай бұрын
Ngl I usually don't like these comparison videos of characters bc most of the time it just turns into nonsensical ''mathematical'' power scaling, but this vid is so much better bc it does the complete opposite. it just compares story feats which makes sense. nice vid you got a new sub
@Cyanduck485
Жыл бұрын
Facts Doflamingo is a apoo victim
@TheProphetLot
Жыл бұрын
enel victim
@Cyanduck485
Жыл бұрын
@@TheProphetLot nah both apoo and doflamingo slam enel
@Mr4Eyee
Жыл бұрын
Bird Cage doesn't matter. Katakuri would be able to escape with his Logia.
@cs_kevin
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri > Bounce man > Doffy I know it's not that simple, but Imo there's no discussion Katakuri takes the W. They both have extremely good DF usage, but Katakuri's haki is just leagues above Doffy.
@Grayson_Baker
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri has awakened his DF as well. Pretty sure he could replicate Doffy's powers!
@spongegod5897
7 ай бұрын
Yeah and do it 10x better. Just like how he did luffy 😂
@lemonsss1094
Жыл бұрын
katauris df isnt anything like luffys. but he uses his unique abilities to replicate luffys own style, which hed probably do to doffy too. katakuri would dominate doffy without a second thought.
@gymisNOTFUN
2 ай бұрын
Bro answered 10 thousand dollar question
@ChocolateBread-rc9st
4 ай бұрын
Funny thing someone actually fully made and illustrated a mini manga where this happened and it was very close
@Adminomnid
4 ай бұрын
**DoFlamingo throws string** DIE HAHAHA **Katakuri WEAVE**
@rodrigo-tj1gf
5 ай бұрын
another point, katakuri can change forms with his fruit so even if the cage closes he can change his physical shape to pass through the strings and continue to fight
@chrisgregory3063
Жыл бұрын
This has made me re read the katakuri fight, got to be the best 1vs1 in one piece
@doublecuppin20
11 ай бұрын
in my humble opinion i think Doffy has better durabilty than Kat. When we think back to Luffy vs Kat Luffy only landed a handful of solid punches on him but was still able to take him down. Doffy got hit by a much bigger punch and was able to keep fighting.
@lelainewanal
7 ай бұрын
Katakuri literally tank luffys punches and remember luffy was Stronger than dressrosa luffy
@gregorymakossomoussavou5834
2 ай бұрын
Katakuri explodes clearly Doflamingo, the thing amazing about Doflamingo is that he's super resilient, those punches and strikes he took man.
@KrowsVeil
7 ай бұрын
Moving onto fraudikuri bro did him dirty
@jaleelbrown1076
28 күн бұрын
“It was able to hit luffy from the back.” 😂😂
@Noted__
7 ай бұрын
Bro Doffy got folded by reg gear 4, katakuri only got took down by snake man
@zacgrove1403
11 ай бұрын
The bird cage is more powerful than it should be. Bartolomeo should be able to bust it open once they are pushing against one another with no more room to go..
@AhmedMustafa22788
Ай бұрын
No analysis was required to come to the conclusion that Doffy is outmatched
@almy-qy1lf
Жыл бұрын
Katakuri was essentially stronger (AP wise) than Bounceman, and faster than Snakeman, plus he has future sight and DF awakening. He would destroy Doflamingo faster than G4 Luffy could.
@swallux8941
29 күн бұрын
Honestly, Ito, and Mochi are both 2 of the top 3 fruits I'd want if I could get one, both are really good. (Third is Ope, it's also really good if used right)
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