The sad truth is before his darkside training, Luke likely forbid Ben from ever seeing his parents again and told him he needed to rid himself of his attachment to them to become a “true Jedi”. Luke essentially served Ben to Snoke and Palpatine on a silver platter which is why he is so distraught in TLJ. Of course Luke meant well, but as Ahsoka said “sometimes the right reasons have the wrong consequences.”
@thehalfricanguy
8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about that. Luke wasn't a dogmatic follower of The Jedi. Personal attachments were sort of his thing, as shown in the original series.
@Agentsmith-k8q
5 ай бұрын
@@thehalfricanguy He didn't let mando see baby yoda
@CsuarezFla
2 ай бұрын
@@michaelperret3430 I find that hard to believe because his sister and best friend were Ben Skywalker/Kylo Ren's parents. I don't see Luke preventing Leia from seeing her own son.
@MorinsKAINED
27 күн бұрын
@@Agentsmith-k8q We know he allowed Ben to see his parents fairly often. By the time he was training Grogu, he was still a long way from establishing his own Order and was likely still learning the ropes.
@Agentsmith-k8q
27 күн бұрын
@@MorinsKAINED Idk he was building the hutts and the school and shit
@stargirledits
Жыл бұрын
I love the complexity of Kylo/Ben's character. He is definitely one of the reasons why I actually really enjoy the sequels. He is meant to be the antagonist of the three films, and yet he can barely convince even himself that he is committed to the dark side. He is so full of conflict, and as you noted, it only intensifies once he kills his father
@ghaliomarip2230
Жыл бұрын
Same
@amanda55772
Жыл бұрын
You remember when you were in school and you cant understand the question fully until someone else reads it, thats what this comment did for me
@PsychomachineryEBM
Жыл бұрын
lol
@mari55587
10 ай бұрын
And he couldn't kill his mom at all
@stargirledits
10 ай бұрын
@@mari55587 exactly!
@Solo-Skywalker
Жыл бұрын
Yes it was to prove his dedication but it was intended to transcend him deeper into the dark side. A perfect move for a Sith Lord. But unfortunately kylo has not been one hundred percent honest with everyone when it comes to his dedication to their cause. He was still very much attached to things not even a Jedi should be attached to. And hiding the fracture that it caused became difficult especially without his helmet to hide his emotions. Snoke knew is. That's the very reason he made him remove his helmet. And even then kylos manipulation cost snoke and Palpatine their life. I really like the sequels and I hope they get more love in the future years to come
@stargirledits
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I love your analysis. Great point about him being attached to things even Jedi shouldn't be attached to. I never thought about that! I love the sequels. I think they're great films with some very interesting characters
@officermurdoch4120
4 ай бұрын
Sequels lover here!
@BloodySox_18
11 ай бұрын
Star Wars TFA: I know what to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it Star Wars TROS: I know what to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it
@ryplay08
11 ай бұрын
I may not be a sequels fan but I love how complex Kylo/Ben is as a character
@martinlizard9254
8 ай бұрын
Wokeness killed han solo
@ultragamer8816
3 ай бұрын
That’s what adam driver said
@molliethomas2585
Жыл бұрын
Tbh if the Skywalker-Solo family had lived during the Sith Empire then I highly doubt they would have wanted to recruit Ben. He just had too strong a conscience to join their ranks, as we saw when he failed this very important test. Anyone who would make a good Sith has to have a certain level of sociopathy before they even start their training, or they just end up like Ben did after killing Han.
@Rey20171
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually watching last jedi right now as we speak and just finished Episode 7 this morning
@molliethomas2585
Жыл бұрын
@@Rey20171 Sweet!
@Rey20171
Жыл бұрын
Funny how we're talking about the sequel trilogy and I have been watching Episodes 7 and 8 all morning
@StarWarsLab
Жыл бұрын
This is the way
@noelysmith2827
Ай бұрын
I always thought it had something to do with Han also having seen the map to Luke.
@VLFBERHTwolf
3 ай бұрын
Snoke should have been the main standalone antagonist, not Palpatine.
@andrewchr
2 ай бұрын
You're asking way too much from the simpleton disney writers. Creative writing is a long lost art nowadays. Just the name "Snoke" made me realize a 12 year old wrote their script.
@VLFBERHTwolf
2 ай бұрын
@@andrewchr Then what would you name him then if 'Snoke' was a bad name to you? It better be a good name.
@TheWrestlingClub
2 ай бұрын
One thing Disney did good with was made me care for Kylo everything else was 🤦🏾
@Trizzer89
Жыл бұрын
Kylo didnt mean anything because the whole sequel trilogy was stupid beyond belief
@nickkokkas16
3 ай бұрын
Uhm... the real reason Kylo killed Han Solo is because Disney agreed to Harrison Ford's request the character be killed off. (*smirk*)
@alexanderaguiar8169
5 ай бұрын
Just like when you try and find fulfillment and purpose outside of Christ✝️🙏🏼
@scientistmilorad9735
10 ай бұрын
Its wild that this comment section actually loves sequels 💀 like wtf guys
@officermurdoch4120
4 ай бұрын
It’s because the sequels are better than some people can realize.
@michaelbloom5342
2 ай бұрын
All three of those movies were shit shows.
@MylesDanielBaker
8 ай бұрын
What a shite storyline for real
@julioacceus253
Жыл бұрын
That is so lame.
@Skepticminecraft
Жыл бұрын
So when the same thing happened to Anakin after killing Mace Windu, you don’t find that lame? That Anakin bowed down to his master hoping that killing everyone he trusted would let go of his suffering, when it made the situation worse for him as Vader regret his choices. It’s literally the same point of view but of course sequel haters have to fit with the crowd. I’m no sequel fan but even I see how much better Kylo’s backstory was compared to Rey “Skywalker”
@calebmarte5102
Жыл бұрын
@@Skepticminecraftu have 0 Star Wars knowledge. Once again…….. 0
@sorrenblitz805
Жыл бұрын
@@Skepticminecraftno that's not it. He betrayed Mace because Palpatine promised Anakin to give him the secrets of immortality so he could save Padme from dying. Anakin feared death, not necessarily for himself but for the people he loved. He fell to the darkside because Darth Sideous said he can gain the power to stop death, when the Jedi constantly told him to just accept and detach. Kylo by comparison is an angry child screaming at the dark because he's not as cool as Grampa, the mass murdering monster cyborg war dog of the former Emperor.
@DaffierPig6843
11 ай бұрын
Sequels = automatic hate Get your own opinion
@jimrekt
Жыл бұрын
I Love Kylo Ren / Ben Solo and Adam Driver Was the Perfect Actor for the Role However, the Skywalkers were always destroyed by the one man who just wanted nothing but power Kylo Ren & Darth Vader are so alike in many ways they were both created by the devil seduced and lost their family and it was only because Palpatine made sure he wanted to be Emperor forever and if you put it that way they both suffered a great loss to be by Palpatine's side Vader lost his wife and Ren lost that only thing that ever believed in him and saw the good in him was his own parents In all of SW Kylo Ren & Darth Vader are the people who suffer and lose the most and it's because of one person 💔
@NoName-hg6cc
8 ай бұрын
All he needed was his grandfather appearing and telling him "dude, you have it all wrong" He is a ghost Force, he could have
@rachel933
5 ай бұрын
Can force ghosts visit those who are on the dark side or on the path of it? Literally Anakin showing up would've cleared up Ben's issues or at least helped him majorly 😅
@NoName-hg6cc
5 ай бұрын
@@rachel933 Exactly! I don't see why not, it's not clear. But granted how EVERYONE appeared in front of Palpatine, I'd say he could have
@CsuarezFla
2 ай бұрын
The reason is because Kylo Ren wasn't balanced enough in the force to be able to communicate with his grandfather or his grandfather being able to communicate with him. It took Obi-Wan ten years to be able to communicate with Qui-Gon Jinn. And Obi-Wan was one of the most balanced if not the most balanced Jedi/ force sensitive in the whole galaxy. Like Qui-Gon told Obi-Wan at the end of the Obi-Wan Kenobi series "I was always here, you just weren't ready to see"
@NoName-hg6cc
2 ай бұрын
@@CsuarezFla Ok, but how is Luke balanced enough to see Obi Wan? I don't mean at the end, I mean immediately after he died
@CsuarezFla
2 ай бұрын
@@NoName-hg6cc I see what you're saying but Luke couldn't see Obi-Wan until ep.5 and he was close to death. He could hear Obi-Wan after he died not see him. Luke and Kylo Ren are very different. Luke always had balance. Kylo Ren gave into the Darkside and was always emotionally unbalanced where as Luke never did and was emotionally balanced. Honestly I think ep.7 - ep.9 is trash. But that's my opinion.
@DaffierPig6843
11 ай бұрын
Poe and Kylo are the only good characters from the sequels
@nicklepin7133
9 ай бұрын
I liked Finn though Disney ruined his potential
@zshah3107
4 ай бұрын
They should have including Jacen & Jaina Solo, Ben Skywalker, etc!
@DDDiego
3 ай бұрын
Everyone forgets about BB-8 ngl
@zshah3107
2 ай бұрын
@DaffierPig6843 Actually, it should be Jacen Solo, not Ben Solo, yes!
@sharinganuser23
7 ай бұрын
I get that this summary is for people with a basic understanding to get them to delve a little deeper but there is one crucial point missing. Kylo Ren idolized Vader. Everything about Vader; Kylo tried to emulate but couldn’t. He wasn’t a slave, he didn’t have a bad life. So when he tries to sever ties that bonded him he fails. Anakin would never strike against his mother and Kylo knows and emulated that. By the time “Vader” started breaking apprentices he was already emerged in the dark side not just flirting with it. Anakin by his own admission was willing and eager to kill Sidious as soon as he finished Obi Wan. Both father like figures to an immaculate conception via dark side ritual aka Ani. Kylo kills Han but it doesn’t help him focus/grow in the dark side at all because he didn’t even believe in the act. He had to damn near manipulate his Han into it. Kylo could not turn Rey because of this and his inner conflict prevented growth in the dark side. Kylo is a better Jedi than sith. As well as Anakin if he had remained in the temple.
@alexheisenberg8709
Жыл бұрын
You should make a reel about why rey chose the name skywalker. I feel like you'll take that more seriously than most yourubers that talk about star wars... for obviosu reasons
@sorrenblitz805
Жыл бұрын
I mean to me its kind of simple, Palpatine was the greatest evil in the galaxy for decades, and he was killed by a Skywalker. Why would Rey want to keep the Palpatine name when it carries such a stigma? I think its weird she'd choose Skywalker but it makes a certain amount of sense from an honor perspective, she carries the name that inspired hope in the Galaxy's darkest moments instead of the name of the man who brought those moments forth.
@Notmiddleg
Жыл бұрын
Snoke was Palpatines clone
@rorywilson656
9 ай бұрын
Something to do I guess?
@CooperDooper38
Ай бұрын
In the end, it was Disney who tried even harder than Kylo to destroy the past
@dazediss6629
18 күн бұрын
Adam Driver played a great performance in these movies, so sad that it was wasted. Should have given the cameo actors more screen time and less of Daisy & John who are wooden as fuck. They deliver lines like they’re in a school play.
@TAER99
2 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ. The writers didn’t even know why. You had two directors with a blank canvas and conflicting ideas. Never a good idea!
@Mstech20047
4 ай бұрын
Why he die ?
@akshayeeshwar8469
9 ай бұрын
Haunted by memories some failed some became sith
@akshayeeshwar8469
9 ай бұрын
Those who failed, followed the legacy of Jedi, failing
@Foebane72
3 ай бұрын
This TFA is non-canon NONSENSE.
@RandyRodriguez-h4v
Ай бұрын
It's canon 🗿 🍷
@starshipcaptain4753
4 ай бұрын
I think Kylo knew he was good inside and killed Han to make it look like he was completing his dark journey but then could surprise them which he did.
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