@@defeatingasandwich_onlymak9967 what did you even say for that to happen 😭
@SirMechanical
Ай бұрын
Both will “IM GONNA TOUCH YOU” against each other anyway
@kenysulivan95
Ай бұрын
I laughed so hard when he said "Do the MHA characters have souls?", I could also say the same about the fandom lol
@TheCancelledJester9
Ай бұрын
I’d say the MHA fandom has too much soul
@kenysulivan95
Ай бұрын
@@TheCancelledJester9 lol, that's some souless claim🤣
@king_doom6969
Ай бұрын
I wanna make a soul-sucking joke out of this,but I don’t have the soul to do it Ok I’m going
@NoName-qk2jf
Ай бұрын
@@king_doom6969that wasnt funny
@NOCKGAMES
Ай бұрын
@@king_doom6969try again next time
@Iman36453
8 ай бұрын
I have found out that Kohei Horikoshi (Creator of MHA) and Gege Akutami (Creator of JJK) they are really close friends
@Animemanist
7 ай бұрын
Horikoshi is also a fan of kubo
@Iman36453
7 ай бұрын
@@Animemanist Huh the more you know
@giancedrickbeltran3624
2 ай бұрын
So a guy that doesn't want to kill off major characters is friends with a mc hater?
@Iman36453
2 ай бұрын
@@giancedrickbeltran3624 yep
@gazmanedits
2 ай бұрын
and gege is friends with tatsuki fujimoto (csm creator)
@DeathBattleFan-wi4cc
Ай бұрын
This is gonna be a death battle now, thanks to the people supporting Death Battle
@Sr.YOSHI99
Ай бұрын
I wanna see Sukuna vs Shigaraki 😓😓😓
@Imtryingloll
Ай бұрын
0:31 thats you when you saw death battle not go under
@thinhvo6888
Ай бұрын
Wait fr?!
@DeathBattleFan-wi4cc
Ай бұрын
@thinhvo6888 yep, they also just announced Aang vs.The Traveler a few minutes ago
@thinhvo6888
Ай бұрын
@@DeathBattleFan-wi4cc damn, have they announced all the upcoming battles or is there still more
@sailorclout
9 ай бұрын
Shiggy didn't get beat up in Todo's imagination so he gets cooked I fear
@DellizarSlit
9 ай бұрын
That wasn't his imagination that was his domain
@bigboykenob2244
9 ай бұрын
@@DellizarSlitThere were subtitles in the top left stating that it was indeed Todo’s imagination. It wasn’t his domain, and we have never seen it.
@DellizarSlit
9 ай бұрын
@@bigboykenob2244 I know I'm making a joke
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
@@bigboykenob2244 durr durrr no shit sherlock. You want a cookie for a reward to your unwanted comment? God help your soul.
@Tr4ntz
6 ай бұрын
Mahito* (This is probably a joke)
@BlackOwlMage
8 ай бұрын
Spoilers: As pf the most recent chapters of MHA, if vestiges count as souls, Shiggy can not only see the vestiges of OFA but he straight up snatched Danger Sense guy.
@3dsmaster537
Ай бұрын
Yeah. Shigaraki with Danger Sense is definitely not getting touched
@thiagogarcia3979
Ай бұрын
@@3dsmaster537😂😂😂
@pietrorazia2184
Ай бұрын
@@3dsmaster537domain expansion of 0.8 of a second thats a 100% hit:
@3dsmaster537
Ай бұрын
@@pietrorazia2184 he already sensed the danger the moment the idea popped into Mahito's head. He'd dodge
@Coldburrito129
Ай бұрын
@@3dsmaster537the question is can shigaraki dodge a domain expansion?
@jonathanrutherford7671
Ай бұрын
Mahito would never even touch Shigaraki, the stats are just to far apart for this to be relatively close and Mahito can’t reform his body if there’s no body to reform lmao.
@zaphyr290
Ай бұрын
Bro did u watch jjk he doesn't need a body all he needs is his soul LOL
@reasonablequit7535
Ай бұрын
@@zaphyr290also fun fact shiggy is aware of his own soul, can see souls, has resistance to soul manipulation, and can even hit and absorb souls. But that doesnt mean mahito is completely helpless because he’s much smarter, strategic, and has the help of transfigured humans to weave around shigaraki. That’s what makes this fight so much fun
@GOJO-SATORU00
27 күн бұрын
@@reasonablequit7535Ain't no way you said mahito is smarter and a greater strategist. Overall I think shigaraki in every single stat is just way more broken. Mahito only has that one hit move. Also with shigaraki knowing everything mahito can do he can easily just wear out mahito for days since he not only can fly, has many long ranged quirks, and could even put a bad quirk inside mahito or something that makes mahito weaker in a certain way. I just think shigaraki has many more positives than mahito
@azohoangigokusolobrainrot
14 күн бұрын
Remember mahito is a curse shigaraki can’t see him
@reasonablequit7535
14 күн бұрын
@@azohoangigokusolobrainrot shigaraki has danger sense, other sensory quirks besides sight, and soul perception
@joshuafrazier3904
9 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to note this comes down to benefit of the doubt. If we cross verse equalization so saying Shigaraki’s attack count as cursed energy we then have to ask do vestiges count as souls and depending on the answer depends on who wins. In theory but realistically if the answer is yes then Shigaraki wins easily but if it’s no we then have to ask the question does remaking his entire body from nothing take more cursed energy and can Mahito even do that in the first place. After all it’s not like we’ve seen Mahito ever regenerate from his entire being including literal molecules and atoms be turnt to dust. At that point it begs the question of can Mahito come back from nothing? Because that’s what he’d be forced to do upon being dusted by decay. And even if he does come back would he be aware of his surrounding while doing so? Because if not then Shigaraki just sits next to Mahito’s body after the first decay lays his hand on the ground next to Mahito and let chain decay kill Mahito due to curse energy drain since Mahito doesn’t have a brain and isn’t aware enough to stop him. You see it’s much more complicated than people are really giving it credit for and also here another way Shigaraki can win. If Shigaraki dodges the domain expansion due to his speed difference and then shatters it Mahito just dies I think due to being hit by decay without his Cursed Technique active. Sure that final fight is unlikely but it’s still possible. I personally think Shigaraki can win at least 50% of the time with all this stated but considering how many factors left are unsure I’m not willing to say he could win more and the same also goes for Mahito because as much as people say Domain Expansion wins which I agree on it’s honestly not likely it ever gets pulled out in a defining manner because in the ones Shigaraki wins Mahito never truly gets the chance to pull it out especially if they are in character and the ones where Mahito wins domain is fairly redundant since he shouldn’t need it to win at that point aside from making up the speed difference between him and Shigaraki.
@jjk4002
4 ай бұрын
It's stated mahito would die by completey destroying his body
@eggscrambled00
Ай бұрын
When
@kampa8949
9 ай бұрын
Assuming you equalize souls and vestiges, you could also argue that Shigaraki has some form of soul manipulation resistance since in chapter 379 he prevents the AFO consciousness from overwriting his mind and body, and even uses the explicit term “soul” when describing himself doing it
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
that doesn't mean he can negate idle transfiguration just because he prevents all for one from overwriting his consciousness... Idle transfiguration shapes a soul regardless of how you feel or what you try to do. It's like sculpting an inanimate pile of clay, that clay can't do anything but sit there and be sculpted.
@theodorable1425
9 ай бұрын
Geto being able to somewhat resist Kenjaku’s control over his body but not being capable of resisting Mahito’s idle transfiguration as far as we know kinda debunks that argument. In JJK there are multiple incidents where the ability to overpower or resist somebody’s consciousness from taking over your body has not equated to the ability to resist or negate idle transfiguration. Sukuna who was completely unfazed by Mahito’s idle transfiguration and was able to casually cause severe damage to Mahito’s soul was unable to ever overpower or put up a fight against Yuji’s control over his body. Yuji who can only harm Mahito’s soul because he became a vessel for Sukuna is also heavily implied by Mahito to not be the reason why he can’t use idle transfiguration on Yuji. Sukuna is why Mahito can’t use his CT on Yuji. So Yuji isn’t immune to Idle Transfiguration but can casually resist Sukuna’s control, who was immune to Idle Transfiguration which Yuji isn’t immune to. And Toji who has no soul manipulation, unintentionally entity-crammed a dude’s soul out of it’s own body, but couldn’t resist having his consciousness overwritten by the grandma’s runaway cursed-technique. So in JJK being able to resist your consciousness from being overwritten doesn’t at all equate to having a stronger soul or having soul manipulation resistance. If that were the case, then the power dynamics between Sukuna, Mahito, and Yuji wouldn’t be possible. Since Mahito’s CT would work against Yuji if he didn’t have Sukuna, then Sukuna who completely negated Mahito’s CT should subsequently easily overpower Yuji’s soul and overwrite Yuji’s consciousness, but that isn’t what happened.
@Gt_oanime
9 ай бұрын
@@BL00DYMERCURYnope mahito says if you aware of your own soul you are resistant and you can also hurt mahito
@Agent-57
9 ай бұрын
Chap 411 Shigaraki can outright see ghosts
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
@Gtankanime so now shigiraki is automatically aware of his own soul? If that's the case then Mahito is automatically invincible to the decay quirk
@JayDaftAJ
Ай бұрын
The fact that this is going to be an actual Death Battle! 😅😂
@FGJeffMops
14 күн бұрын
that is the reason I am watching this haha
@Agent-57
9 ай бұрын
Vestiges are souls as seen with All Might's vestige. So Shigaraki can see the shape of his soul. Plus the abysmal stat difference means that Mahito is never touching Shigaraki, especially when you factor in more that 3 sensory quirks. Edit : Chap 411 Shigaraki can outright see ghosts
@jin2821
8 ай бұрын
Thing is, Mahito is a better Fighter and has better tools to make his one shot easier, also if we factor in Yuji's black flash against Hanami, he would be around SoL to low FTL. If you are going to talk about Yuji not being able to dodge Piercing blood, 1. Yuji was airborne when he had to react to it. 2. Yuji was off guard and still reacted to it. so that anti feat wouldn't apply here.
@Agent-57
8 ай бұрын
@@jin2821 Is that a joke ? Black Flash isn't speed based. And the Top ranks of MHA barely get to MACH 3. Nayoa at MACH 3 is the fastest curse in JJK and blitzes Maki with Full heavenly restriction who is equal to Toji himself. And JJK's best best AP feat is small city level that Mahito does not scale to. The best you can scale him to is Jogo's maximum meteor at Large town level. Something Shigaraki can achieve by just jumping. Hell just look at the difference in final battle. Gojo vs Sukuna barely destroyed a part of a district. Shigaraki vs Deku has just started and they have already destroyed Shizuka Prefecture and Shiggy is going to destroy mount Fuji.
@Agent-57
8 ай бұрын
@@jin2821 And pretty much every character in the series struggles to dodge Piercing blood even 20f Sukuna.
@jin2821
8 ай бұрын
@@Agent-57 Bro must be on another level of retard. First of all, that mach 3 statement only meant as in travel speed, this is further proven by the fact its been contradicted on multiple occasions, for example, Maki catching a bullet point blank range, which was calced from mach 9 - mach 21. More proof on this is the black hole feat from Kenjaku and Sukuna dodging EM waves, so saying JJK would cap at Mach 3 is blatantly wrong. Next up the scaling, Bro has never heard of AP or DC☠. Gojo has Planetary+ AP via the same black hole feat from Kenjaku, also there are statements from the back of the manga cover stating Sukuna has the power to destroy the world. If say "Oh, thats hax" Hey stupid, Kenjaku had to be putting the same amount of power as black hole to resist it, "Oh Yuki and Tengen were holding it back" Kenjaku out scales both of them EASILY☠. So yes, JJK caps at Planetary+ - Maybe small star level with FTL+ speeds.
@jin2821
8 ай бұрын
@@Agent-57 20F sukuna barely even took damage from it, he didn't even see it as a threat as he just blocked it like it was a water gun. moron.
@axelvaughn9625
9 ай бұрын
Shigaraki would know the shape of his soul, he share souls with AFO. Shigaraki outright says AFO was trying to take over his soul but shiggy hid his origin to overcome it Shiggy could decay OFA world which is stated to be a world of souls(see when Deku unlocks black whip). Shiggy could also sense a curse, AFO was completely blind as stated when he was sent to prison and had multiple quirks allowing him to sense the world and fight all might
@chrissousa4685
8 ай бұрын
So if mahito can come back for ever because of his curse technique, Shigaraki could use All For One to take his power, making him unable to manipulate his soul and finally be able to kill him
@bennogb5069
3 ай бұрын
Mahito can run out of CE and Nanami confirms that at that point anybody eben if they cant percieve the soul can merk him, cuz his CT cant work with little CE.
@thegreatestoctopus9739
Ай бұрын
Finally someone with a brain
@mritchie2.0
Ай бұрын
@thegreatestoctopus9739 all for one only works with quirks Not cursed techniques
@thegreatestoctopus9739
Ай бұрын
@@mritchie2.0 you ever heard of verse equalisation?
@mritchie2.0
Ай бұрын
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 ever heard of not using it
@johnwhite9048
Ай бұрын
“Do mha characters have souls” is a dumb question in a convo like this because do to verse equalization to make the fight fair yes they would
@i3eaniie602
Ай бұрын
Fr atp you could just say Shiggy doesn’t have cursed energy and can’t see or touch Mahito because of that 🤦♂️ (edit: 7:45)
@ithoughtso.7016
7 күн бұрын
No. Verse equalization is stupid.
@johnwhite9048
7 күн бұрын
@@ithoughtso.7016 no its not, if you didnt do verse equalization most fights just wouldnt work at all
@ithoughtso.7016
7 күн бұрын
@@johnwhite9048 and? Thats the point. If their abilities dont work they.dont work.
@ithoughtso.7016
7 күн бұрын
@@johnwhite9048 giving characters that edge just wouldnt work within any of their stories.
@sofakingthe2nd286
4 ай бұрын
Shigiraki can see him with the quirk: search It too mention that mahito got his shit kicked in by itadori 😂 A guy that can barely lift up a car and run at 50mph Whereas shigiraki can react to light speed attack and is as strong as prime all might and can one shot mahito with decay or keep him at long range with air canon Mahito along with 99% of jjk can’t even come close to shigiraki 🤷♂️ Also the vestiges are confirmed as souls in the manga and shigiraki and Deku can attack them
@i3eaniie602
Ай бұрын
THANK YOU🙏🙏🙏FOR BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT AT BARE MINIMUM SHIGGY COULD AT LEAST DETECT MAHITO🧎
@azohoangigokusolobrainrot
14 күн бұрын
Wait wait wait mahito is create by CE and CE isn’t exits in MHA you think Search can detect what doesn’t exist in it verse?
@Cryo751
12 күн бұрын
@@azohoangigokusolobrainrot heard of verse equalization??
@EGOISTW
8 ай бұрын
bruh idc who wins its abt all the destruction thats gonna happen 💀💀💀💀
@v_vexx
Ай бұрын
5:28 are we just gonna ignore all the other speed feats putting him at ftl?
@AliasonFowler
Ай бұрын
the battle of touching people
@errorstudioz
Ай бұрын
Diddy Battle
@AliasonFowler
Ай бұрын
@@errorstudioz Diddy battle indeed
@CantThinkOfAGoodUsername_
Ай бұрын
THE DIDDY DOWN 🗣
@Kilochin
9 ай бұрын
Mahito and Shiggy are actually coincidently pretty similar in body shape and hair colour IG
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
You must be 73% blind
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
dawg you are white blue color blind im sorry to tell you
@JayDaftAJ
Ай бұрын
This is going to be a Death Battle! 💀💀💀
@drippylightbulb4634
Ай бұрын
Shigaraki was still confused on weather he was AFO or not. There's still Tenko Shimura, but I feel like Shigaraki would still know the shape of his soul if you count that as a soul.
@gluttonyzonde4132
Ай бұрын
shigaraki fucking destroys mahito, shigaraki with the vestiges are souls, considering all might is a vestige before dying, shigaraki outright suppresses vestiges and overpowers others, and shigaraki is ftl, adding danger sense and how decay negates durability and regeneration along with the added ways of how it can decay a city in SECONDS. mahito has zero ways of defending himself, shigaraki solos him and the verse, including gojo since shigaraki has spacial manipulation quirks and decay when he touches the ground wouldnt count as a physical attack infinity could divide, since gojo needs to be able to not only analyze the threat with his automatic brain, but be aware of it as well, which is how world cleave got past infinity, fucking mirko would solo the verse minus gojo
@MagicDomainGodzillaIsNotCanon
Ай бұрын
When were vestige's confirmed the equalization of souls at all? As far as I'm concerned, Vestige's aren't souls.
@adambump5297
3 ай бұрын
Rody Soul's Quirk (the guy from World Heroes Mission) which is literally called Soul manifests itself as a bird he named Pino and Pino is directly connected to Rody's soul and her actions articulate Rody's true thoughts and feelings so yes MHA do in fact have souls.
@facter-du6kt
2 ай бұрын
Pino is not tied to his soul or anything. His quirk is that Pino shows his true feelings.
@IzukuKun-ow4rx
9 ай бұрын
A lot of people seem to forgot something, Shigaraki has All For One,which has multiple vestiges of the quirks AFO has stolen over the years and recently its shown that the vestiges in AFO can rebel if AFO gets too emotional in a negative way and loses his control of their quirks,so if you use verse equalization and say vestiges are souls , wouldn't this mean Shigaraki's soul can't be affected? Plus Shigaraki literally hid his younger self away which is shown to be another vestige,so without counting the vestiges in AFO, Shigaraki has three souls inside him and a lot more in AFO. A lot of people also ignore that a lot of these characters are smart and quick learners so they can figure out a lot of things quickly if they see it at least once , Shigaraki also has a force field and a laser quirk he never uses for some reason, idk if his regeneration will help much but so far this fight leans towards Shigaraki,Mahito can win though as well in many ways.
@troyblair1133
9 ай бұрын
Shigaraki gets one tapped
@jin2821
8 ай бұрын
No, Shigi soul can still be affected, the only reason Mahito never attempted to one-shot Yuji via soul manip is because of Sukuna, he knows that if he even dares to touch Yuji's soul he will be touching Sukuna's soul aswell and Sukuna would cut him down immediately, so unless were saying AFO or any of the other souls are more advanced with the soul then Mahito, Mahito can still one shot him.
@badroboudjerda4394
7 ай бұрын
No no he might be resistant to it but not immune
@Animemanist
7 ай бұрын
@badroboudjerda4394 if mahito interacted with shiggys soul all the vestiges in shigaraki would literally jump him like sukuna cut mahito
@MaddieM_11
6 ай бұрын
@@troyblair1133no he doesn’t
@jaidenrios4154
Ай бұрын
They going Cheese touch for cheese touch
@countchompula1896
2 ай бұрын
You can’t come back from decay It’s total disintegration with 0 cells left. You’re literally deleted from existence like a Thanos snap.
@dataroaming7512
Ай бұрын
We’re not talking about perfect cell here, as long as Mahito’s soul is intact he can come back from total annihilation, so long as he doesn’t run out of cursed energy that is.
@Storm-Cloud
Ай бұрын
@@dataroaming7512Wouldn't constantly getting deatroyed by Decay waves and rebuilt bassically put Mahito into an infinite stun lock till his ce depleats?
@dataroaming7512
Ай бұрын
@@Storm-Cloud That would happen if Mahito was an idiot, but he can freely morph his body and is incredibly difficult to actually tag, he could make a copy of himself and touch Shiggy from behind, that kinda stuff.
@romusa10
Ай бұрын
Sure, Implying mahito would just stand there and do nothing. As much as i hate that guy, he's one of the most adaptable and high battle IQ in JJK @@Storm-Cloud
@countchompula1896
Ай бұрын
@@dataroaming7512 But there is no body left to manipulate my guy that’s the whole problem.
@Grand.B-Man
27 күн бұрын
Shigiraki’s body adapted and mutated as a result of having his Quirks stripped away by Erasure by way of multiple arms, fingers, etc. With his strong sense of self and the multiple quirk vestiges within him, along with Tenko (the soul) being hidden deep down, Shigiraki could tank Idle Transformation, adapt, and use it to his advantage.
@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg
9 ай бұрын
Yeah this fight is really up to interpretation in a lot of ways, and since there's no absolute answer to the questions it asks, the winner may vary from person to person interpreting how their powers interact. That said, here's my interpretations and who I think wins: (Recent spoilers discussed below) -First, I think quirk vestiges do count as souls. This is because of All Might having a vestige, despite not having a quirk. And what's more, this vestige changes appearance to look more like All Might if the real one dies, seemingly taking on more of his soul as it leaves the body. -Due to the above ruling, Shigaraki can see Mahito because he can see quirk vestiges. This includes those outside of his own body and even All Might's quirkless vestige. In other words, he can see souls and ghosts, so he should likely see Mahito. -(I have no idea what'd happen if he tried to use the AFO quirk on Mahito though.) -Shigaraki should also know the shape of his soul due to his prolonged internal battle with AFO. That said, due to Mahito's ability interpreting the soul only being connected to the body, several of Shigaraki's moves may not do any real harm to Mahito, including some forms of Decay. It's possible only physical attacks would really have that backing of the soul needed to harm Mahito, meaning anything long-range won't work. -And to continue being nice to Mahito: Shigaraki should have cursed energy naturally for the same reason we'd assume anyone fighting Goku has Ki and anywhere Obi-Wan fights has the Force floating about; if an energy source is everywhere in every mundane corner of the universe or produced by every mundane human & animal, I think it's fair to just assume the average opponent/location of another series has it too if there's no good reason not too. That said, Shigaraki has no more ability to use Cursed energy than the average jjk human, so all this means is that Shigaraki can be targeted by Self Embodiment of Perfection. That said, I think the winner is still Shigaraki. He has more than enough transformation & mutation quirks to deal plenty of physical damage to Mahito, and he's smart enough to figure out their effectiveness. And if it ever came down to a battle of souls due to Mahito touching him or using his Domain, Tomura's soul is far above standard. Bare minimum he's got a few hundred "meat" shield in the quirk vestiges to protect his own soul, and destruction of vestiges hasn't been shown to remove their abilities so it's not like he'd sacrifice quirks to protect himself this way. But also, Tomura's own soul may be dangerous in itself to Mahito; probably not on Sukuna's level, but enough to at least put up a fight if it came to it. Mahito's soul should scale directly to his body for obvious reasons; probably ranging from multi-block to outright City level if you're generous. Tomura's is harder to scale (so prepare for power-scaling nonsense); but since his soul overpowered OFA with his emotions & willpower, we can put the power of his soul higher than 9 above-avarage human souls at the low end, and above the full power of One For All itself (so about island to country level) at the high end. Overall, while there may or may not be ways for Mahito to win, there just looks to be a lot more ways that he loses. It's still up in the air who wins in a battle of souls, but since Shigaraki has a decent chance to kill Mahito before it even comes to that, I've got to give it to him.
@Radiomen_IV
8 ай бұрын
W take
@Animemanist
7 ай бұрын
Honestly Shigaraki slams if we equalized verses mahito would literally just enter shigaraki innate domain and then shigaraki ducks him up there
@ThelordHayden34
4 ай бұрын
Personally I don’t really know about giving ce to everyone…mostly because it needs to be learned. I know it’s mostly in the sport of fairness but logically speaking if a person gets dropped into the jjk universe they won’t even be aware of this new energy source, let alone how to control it.
@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg
4 ай бұрын
@@ThelordHayden34 I mean, CE needs to be learned how to _use,_ sure; it's much like Ki in Dragon Ball where a normal human like Videl needs to learn Ki control in order to use cool Ki moves like flight. But that doesn't she didn't have Ki before she learned how to use in in cool ways, and it's the same with CE. Both are naturally occurring energies that appear in all living things (or at least tones with emotions in the case of Cursed Energy). You're right that out-on-universe characters wouldn't know about this energy or how to use it, neither do most normal humans in JJK, but we don't bring this idea up to give the opponents of JJK charterers a new power system or anything, it's to decide if abilities that target a person's Cursed Energy work on them. After all, there are characters in JJk who don't have any CE and thus get some immunity to those CE-targetting attacks. However these characters are rare exceptions who don't have Cursed Energy for a good reason; and normal people who have, but have not learned how to use, Cursed Energy have no such immunity to such CE-targeting abilities. So this is a matter of deciding if an out-of-universe character should fall into the first category or the second by mere virtue of being out-of-universe. To again draw comparisons to Ki: it's a bit like arguing if an out-of-universe fighter dropped into Dragon Ball should have Ki or not; granting all the advantages the absence of Ki gave the Androids if they do not.
@ThelordHayden34
4 ай бұрын
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg I mean , I dm know they would have ce. I’m saying the couldn’t use it . Therefore out of verse charters couldn’t harm curses spirits if we put it logically.
@m.dekustextingstories
13 күн бұрын
I feel like having a soul should just be a standard asumption unless proven otherwise.
@Gegeimcoming
8 ай бұрын
This fight would just turn into a tickle fight
@Radioactive900
Ай бұрын
Ive always had this fight in my head but never had enough knowledge about shigaraki to give my opinion thx for the vid covering this topic
@wanloveph
9 ай бұрын
If we do cross verse scaling, we should assume that shigarakis quirks run off of cursed energy, otherwise they wouldn’t damage mahito. But it’s interesting because the same mechanism that allows yuji to see souls (via. The result of being a vessel) is arguably the equivalent of hosting multiple quirks and being able to feel the vestiges. AFO has been able to swap consciousness with shiggy multiple times similar to yuji/ sukuna so they function very similarly to a vessel/ curse relationship and AFO has also been able to perceive the vestiges of OFA around deku. If thats not “perception of the soul” idk what is. With that, shiggys powers are so overwhelmingly broken, it makes no sense how mahito can beat him. Even with idle transfiguration, shiggy has displayed the ability to react to / adapt to “soul” damage via. Star & Stripes battle with him. Although he may sustain damage from I.T. he can still change his body to adapt to the damage. Shiggy wins
@minichad5456
9 ай бұрын
Thats a nice take on that
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
This is a fact
@Eggshd
9 ай бұрын
How does shigaraki see Mahito
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
@@Eggshd verse equalization
@greedy_arts3807
9 ай бұрын
Gotta love how people try to give the best adavantage to the losing side, its hilarious
@chilflow
28 күн бұрын
This is how I see the fight going, Who ever touches who first wins, lasting only 4 seconds
@wraves693
9 ай бұрын
I always thought Shigaraki vs Mahito was about seeing who was the best villain
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
It's been about both, really
@chunkytheduck2980
8 ай бұрын
@@ZenithAniMangawhat did shigaraki do to top mahito in terms of being a villian?
@jasonblack2477
8 ай бұрын
@@chunkytheduck2980Shigaraki ks an amazing Villain. Great Backstory too
@chunkytheduck2980
8 ай бұрын
@@jasonblack2477 that literally explains nothing
@jasonblack2477
8 ай бұрын
@@chunkytheduck2980 he developed from a manchild to the symbol of evil. He is the opposite of Deku already better
@the_dishonored_second
16 күн бұрын
"tickle tickle!!" ahh fight
@vegetacultminorityhunter
9 ай бұрын
There's another way to kill mahito If you're wear him out enough to were he runs outta cursed energy he can't use his technique anymore meaning he can be hurt and killed by regular blows (Implied by nanami to ino against a weakened mahito)
@AeonEternal-fe4uq
9 ай бұрын
He said that in the vid
@vegetacultminorityhunter
9 ай бұрын
@@AeonEternal-fe4uq didn't have time the watch the full thing. Was on the bus to school I'm currently at lunch.
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
If he hits a black flash then that stamina and cursed energy gets replenished, which wasn't mentioned in the video.
@AeonEternal-fe4uq
9 ай бұрын
@@BL00DYMERCURY In fact, Black Flash only makes control over energy more refined, so the expense is much less. For Gojo who can recover cursed energy, less spent is equivalent to more energy recovered
@BL00DYMERCURY
9 ай бұрын
@@AeonEternal-fe4uq tomato tomato
@Mahito-069
Ай бұрын
Fam,lil bro can’t even see me
@stickguy2424
9 ай бұрын
Will Shigaraki even be able to kill Mahito though? Because you need cursed energy to kill curses and the mha power system is not some kind of magical energy but a part of their genes. This means verse equalization would be pointless because both of these power systems can coexist without contradicting each other and the mha characters would just not have any cursed energy.
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
I would argue that soul damage surpasses that need, if we assume Shigaraki can do that. Since the "body" (which is cursed energy for Mahito) is shaped after the soul.
@towerdefense6753
9 ай бұрын
then its a draw, they cant interact with each other, they cant do anything with each other
@sbcs2809
8 ай бұрын
People realize mahito can still be killed by being dusted right?
@tymirsmith6397
8 ай бұрын
Shigarakis power destroys matter on the atomic level, he can kill mahito
@towerdefense6753
8 ай бұрын
@@sbcs2809 buddy, MAHITO IS invisible how tf is shiggy even gonna touch him let alone see him?
@nengifiedgamer7576
Ай бұрын
Remember the Non sorcerer's in Shibuya when Gojo popped his Domain. They got affected by IV. Alot ppl like to use Toji and Maki when to hey are outliers, they can literally see cursed spirits but don't have cursed energy themselves... Domains work on regular ppl... Gojo's Domain under Shibuya almost left every non sorcerer down there in a vegetative state.. A domain would work on Shigaraki.
@huypham501
2 ай бұрын
shigaraki in his prime has fused with afo and he has ofa which means that he has danger sense which can let him dodge mahito's attacks. Next, we can see that when afo show off his quirks, there's a quirk about souls but we don't see him control one's soul or at least taking over shigaraki's soul, which means that he can protect his souls from attcks
@azohoangigokusolobrainrot
Ай бұрын
But the problem is can shigaraki see mahito?
@maxxgaming1313
Ай бұрын
Yes danger sense and search quirk also be reaction speed and easily blitzed mahito
@TORTOISEBROTHAS
4 ай бұрын
Since Mahito is a special disaster cursed spirit , he has a massive pool of cursed energy which means it will be quite hard to deplete Mahitos CE , If shigaraki didn't have a soul he would be cooked , however in round 3 its really a 50 50
@butamlkranch53
Ай бұрын
without cursed energy you can't kill a curse. They'll just keep coming back. Mha doesn't have any energy based power system to verse equalize with
@Remarkability01
Ай бұрын
Quirks..
@senatorarmstrong9579
Ай бұрын
I know its old but the last senario you say mahitos domain wont have a sure hit on shigaraki because he has no cursed energy by that logic its a win for mahito as some one who has no cursed energy can't hurt him and see him
@Mahito-069
Ай бұрын
there ya go
@caliveil1627
8 ай бұрын
2:49 So...A soul? They are souls... just that they're bits ingrained in their quirks. Because how can you explain the stuff in the manga where Afo suffers from his quirks going wild
@FloppyCat1990
Ай бұрын
asking if they have a soul, is like asking if JJK characters have cells that Shigaraki can manipulate. A question like that is kinda silly for a balancing question. Shigaraki being able to manipulate souls just on the fact that they exist is goofy.
@nebulus48
9 ай бұрын
Great video, But I can't help but feel like you're lowballing MHA's speed scaling here. Deku dodging that Sonic Attack from Jiro isn't anywhere NEAR his best speed feat, Supersonic - MHS MHA isn't super consistent, as multiple characters have reacted to and evaded actual light beams. Deku especially, in his battle against flect turn, was able to evade and react to SEVERAL lasers at the same time. Which we know were light-based, based on the fact they were literally bouncing off of mirrors. And these laser-timing feats are fairly consistent when you look at other characters like Star and Stripe who was also able to react to and dodge laser beams and Radio Waves (both of these travelling at the speed of light). And Shigaraki surpasses all of these characters, at least how they were at the time these feats were performed. So Relativistic lowball to FTL highball via Calcs MHA is much more consistent. Given this, it's likely that Shigaraki would blitz Mahito given such a massive speed discrepancy. Of course, that doesn't account for the other nuances for this fight like, if Shigaraki would even be able to see or Kill Mahito -- But I do believe it's fairly blatant that Shigaraki's AP and Speed Scaling is much much Higher than Mahito's.
@itsSmiv
Ай бұрын
The amount of mental gymnastics you have to do in order to make shigaraki have even a shred of a chance of winning makes it clear that Mahito completely stomps.
@PixelTrainer.
Ай бұрын
It's not really mental gymnastics tho, it's just a simple question of "How does Mahito's ability interact with this character?" And it's a genuinely good question, since we don't have an equivalent of Mahito's ability in the MHA world who we can compare him to
@danielonyt716
Ай бұрын
The average human has ce, only time they dont have is when its specified to be 0 like in the case of toji or maki
@kakuzugoated873
Ай бұрын
Shigaraki has a soul, its explicitly stated deku is entering Shigaraki soul through OFA. Shigaraki can only affect Dekus soul when Deku enters his soul into shigaraki, while Mahito doesnt have to enter his own soul into someone elses to transfigure them. He also has no energy to defend his soul so he gets one shot. Mahito gets blitzed many times but he can't get hurt AT ALL by Shigaraki and he one shots Shigaraki. Having an extra soul≠being able to attack Mahito soul. He still needs cursed energy or some spiritual force he can use at will to target the soul.
@SunSeeker492
9 ай бұрын
Who does your thumbnails?
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
Check out @Sonchapoo on twitter. He's done a lot of my thumbnails
@xfighters3913
Ай бұрын
If we say Shigaraki has no cursed energy then he can't even hurt Mahito since people without cursed energy can't even destroy flatheads. This is why an early yuji with no cursed energy control is given that cursed tool dagger.
@christinawood5736
8 күн бұрын
Finally someone who actually bothers following JJK logic
@marvelmaniacs1
9 ай бұрын
Nah, this battle is not closed shigaraki is blatantly winning, his abilities alone will allow him to win in chapter 406 or 407 is where he stated that he can see all mites spirit meaning he can see souls and things of that nature and he knows immediately what's wrong with it. So even if mahito tried to change his soul or someone else's, he will immediately know, He also has search which was upgraded so he doesn't just only search for people. He can now search for the weakness inside of his opponents and their abilities /personalities and he has the reflect power which allows him to reflect your own attacks back at you but stronger and his vestige realm actually takes place in the soul and it's been shown to be able to defend his own soul and fight against other souls so I really don't see how mahito's winning.
@Misaki7964
Ай бұрын
Its quite complicated if mahito can land his domain sure hit it means that shigaraki loses if but if he cant land his domain sure hit it means shigaraki has no CE so he cant even see him (jjk verse is quite complicated to equalize compared to other verses)
@Brayxedit
Ай бұрын
Shigaraki speed billz and one tap
@wingedbluj1674
Ай бұрын
So really, this battle is dependent on how we handle how Mahito's Curse Techniques can affect Shigiraki and vice versa.
@Quantum404-z3h
2 ай бұрын
So if Shiggy were to somehow destroyed his body I mean, turn it into complete ash would Mahito be able to come back from that?
@ratman7923
Ай бұрын
Yes because it can't destroy his soul. He can come back from nothing as long as the soul remains and sense he is a curse he has a infinite soul. Unless he can attack his soul with decay wich probably not as yuji has much more than having another soul In him to know the shape of the soul. Honestly it goes to Mahito 8 times out of 10
@Quantum404-z3h
Ай бұрын
@@ratman7923 yeah but Mahito wouldn’t be able to do anything since to stop Mahito abilities is just know the layout of your soul and guard it shigaraki has technically has already done that
@Quantum404-z3h
Ай бұрын
@@ratman7923 yeah but Mahito wouldn’t be able to do anything since to stop Mahito abilities is just know the layout of your soul and guard it shigaraki has technically has already done that if you consider vestjis souls
@Chef_VR-dz7du
27 күн бұрын
Domain expansion : self-embodiment of perfection
@victorkaranja1420
8 ай бұрын
Bruh gege needs to expand on the "can't k!ll without ce" thing cus this is just getting out off hand.
@nooriginalusername8052
Ай бұрын
sorry to say shiggy gets touched badly knowing one's soul grants higher resistance to idle transfiguration so you dont get **one tapped** but you still get damaged heavily he has transfugured humans in his disposal to distract shiggy and a 0.2 second domain that can **selectively** target a soul and mahito is invulnerable to physical damage unless shiggy can damage mahito's soul so even if shiggy uses decay on mahito unless his soul is destroyed he can always regenerate from total annihilation aoe damage doesen't mean jack shit if shiggy gets one tapped like mahito did to nobara lol
@mkchable
9 ай бұрын
Wait, do demons in demon Slayer can maintain their inability to die without the nichirin blade or sunlight, but in debates cursed spirits can't retain the requirement that they have to be exercised with CE? Even if Shiggy can hit the soul, his attacks need CE
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
The body is formed from the soul and Mahito's body is made of CE. Soul damage is one of the few things that should override the need for CE in an attack, by the logic of Mahito's technique.
@mkchable
9 ай бұрын
@@ZenithAniManga Except for the fact that Mahito's technique also falls within the laws of Jujutsu and CE. For example, even though Yuji is aware of his soul he can't hurt Mahito without using CE. To even have a chance at interacting with the laws of his technique you have to also use CE.
@tony-gp6do
Ай бұрын
We need this fight in deathbattle
@mariamagdalenaesparzarosales
5 ай бұрын
Could Shigaraki even see Mahito though?
@angel3159
5 ай бұрын
He has many sensory quirks and has a danger sensor (spider sense)
@monkey1053
Ай бұрын
Yeah, toji could see curses
@RVoidFall
4 күн бұрын
@@monkey1053Only cus he had 0 cursed energy
@Mustache99
3 күн бұрын
@@monkey1053he can't Just that his Sense are so Sharp that he can detect them but can't see them
@monkey1053
3 күн бұрын
@@Mustache99 eh, same thing, if anything that’s better if he could sense them from behind or something
@biscuittime4555
28 күн бұрын
It is said that inanimate objects also have souls so mahito canonically can use a budget version of decay
@meisme20
9 ай бұрын
2:33 bro??? Did u even read the manga💀💀💀💀
@Homoguyyy
8 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@Simplyhenzy
2 ай бұрын
Fr
@prokorok
Ай бұрын
Why would anyone read that shit💀
@meisme20
Ай бұрын
@@prokorok whats ur fav manga tard?
@paleospino4956
Ай бұрын
@@prokorok The manga ain’t even bad though.
@ayitsslade
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure towards the beginning of the story when we learn about shigaraki it says that he decays the body and soul
@narindercatt2230
Ай бұрын
Because curses are considered an "energy" power system (one energy, many uses, intangible to non-magic-users), and quirks are a "natural" power system (magic = extension of the body, fully tangible) verse equalisation needs to be applied. Therefore: -They can see eachother and their "magic". -Shiggy has a soul (multiple ones). -Activating a quirk = activating a curse technique. -Mahito's powers are considered a quirk. Honestly, I think it's 70/30 in Shiggy's favour. Physical prowess, versatility in abilities and being able to yoink Mahito's powers (probably will take a couple of seconds of direct contact tho).
@i3eaniie602
Ай бұрын
This is how the vid should’ve been set up fr😭 Because ion think he even ever mentions how Mahito would be completely invisible/ intangible (Edit: 7:43)
@itsSmiv
Ай бұрын
If there is verse equalization, then mahito does a domain expansion and wins.
@RandomGuy-ci9nt
Ай бұрын
Shigaraki outstats and Mahito out haxes.
@Remarkability01
Ай бұрын
Shigaraki has countless quirks, so he out haxes too
@MoonMan9904
8 ай бұрын
Shigraki quite literally cannot kill, let alone harm, Mahito because he has no cursed energy. You cannot exorcise a curse without a curse yourself. So unfortunately Mahito slams with negative diff
@Remarkability01
Ай бұрын
Everyone has cursed energy, rewatch episode 1 of JJK
@MoonMan9904
Ай бұрын
@@Remarkability01 Yes everyone in the JJK universe has Cursed Energy. Cursed Energy is the power system used by the JJK verse. However it doesn't exist in MHA or MHA characters.
@Jogothegoat
Ай бұрын
both are invited to the diddy party
@BlakeBurton-je3ry
2 ай бұрын
6:02 this is NOT a debatable fight💀
@MAHITOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ай бұрын
Any fight is debatable if the people debating are delulu enough🔵🙏🔴🤌🫴🟣🟣🟣🟣
@GalacticScaleNoob
Ай бұрын
Then who would win
@ShadeThaArtist
8 ай бұрын
People really got to remember that Mahito technically isn't even technically a physical being. But a amalgamation of negative energy taken form and decay need physical objects to be effective. The vestiges are treated as a part of this quirk specifically they also do act as souls because they are of literally deceased people. In a similar way to a jjk character Yuta and he uses Rika
@masonmcfadden4886
9 ай бұрын
Shiggy slams bro has country lvl AP and he's light speed he so much stronger than mahito also he has stars and stripes that can manipulate reality.
@chitovryt
Ай бұрын
well 3 things that we have seen to connect to souls is with the third mha movie where rody has a bird that is basically his soul and then we have vestiges and then tokoyami with dark shadow which is his soul so its kinda weird
@anthonycrank6406
9 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, this is one of my favorite matchups of all time ( Along side Makoto Yuki vs Yuta Okkotsu & Ragna The Bloodedge vs Velvet Crowe) so seeing everyone talk about it makes me very happy!
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
Its definitely really interesting!
@maku3857
9 ай бұрын
You don’t mean persona Makoto yuki do you?
@anthonycrank6406
9 ай бұрын
@@maku3857 I do.
@maku3857
9 ай бұрын
@@anthonycrank6406 that’s not close in any way
@anthonycrank6406
9 ай бұрын
@@maku3857I know but I love the potential dynamic.
@thecraftykitsune284
Ай бұрын
I'm just saying that because of how Mahito affecting Yuji/Sukuna worked would idle Transfiguration not hit all souls inside of Shigi? Furthermore if he gets self embodiment of perfection off that is a wrap aswell. I think Mahito has it here. But if someone has counter arguments please tell me!
@Lordxzamasu
29 күн бұрын
Bro really just said mha characters have no souls like they’re not humans💀
@The_present-vy6hx
20 күн бұрын
Souls in mha and souls in jjk are different
@D3bati0n
Ай бұрын
“im gonna touch you” “nu uh im gonna touch you first” “IMMA GONNA TOUCH YOU” “NOT IF I TOUCH YOU FIRST”
@Tinyboichoppa
Ай бұрын
To be honest, this fight seems like a stalemate until either mahito runs outta cursed energy, or till mahito finds a way to catch shiggy offguard
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
another thing you didn't talk about is Shigaraki can't even kill mahito not just because Shigaraki can't hurt his soul but because Shigaraki has no cursed energy attacks so he can't exercise mahito, unless Shigaraki has a cursed tool which he doesn't, mahito just wins over time or one shot's with domain.
@niggardosenpai
9 ай бұрын
So verse-equalization just isn't a thing anymore?
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
@@niggardosenpai if we go by verse equalization then shigaraki has cursed energy meaning domain one shots shigaraki, also since this guy said the vestiges arnt spiritual and are just biological and physical then shigaraki still couldn't kill mahito, either shigaraki has cursed energy or he doesn't. Doesn't change much as mahito would still win
@minichad5456
9 ай бұрын
@niggardosenpai it is even mentioned that shiggy maybe doesn't have a soul, so not even the creator of the video Talks about Verse equivalizaton
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
@@thyentity6295 mahito doesn’t spam domain like how gojo or sukuna do in there fight so its out of character to say he would instantly use it and secondly you just kinda are wrong in that second statement, he gave multiple interpretations of how the soul thing can work and if shiggys afo thing does count as a soul(we have no reason to believe it doesn’t as it works the exact same way as sukuna does) then shiggy just wins, even without that decay should be more then enough to defeat him it wouldn’t kill him. But it will leav mahito in this weird state. Decay breaks the bonds that form molecules which would leave mahitos existence being a clump of atoms and since cursed spirits have brains and you cant think without a brain mahito will be alive just not doing anything(basically meaning shiggy wins)
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
@@minichad5456 if we do that then, mahito would just win as Shigaraki can't see mahito, and couldn't hurt or kill mahito, but mahito could just figure out how to kill Shigaraki if not just stabbing him to death, cutting of his head or hitting him with black flash a bunch of times, now with verse equalization mahito still has the better chance of winning.
@Kraxel-North
15 күн бұрын
I generally assume cursed energy and souls translate across verses since JJK’s worldbuilding makes them inherent parts of humans, unless another power system directly contradicts that. Which I don’t think it does in this case.
@greatminikwu9089
9 ай бұрын
Pls do shigaraki vs sukkuna!!
@ZenithAniManga
9 ай бұрын
That's not my next video, but I def should do that one sometime
@sticklegends5689
23 күн бұрын
Debating wether a verse has a soul or not is like asking if they have a heart or not
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
shiggy wins nine times out of ten because of decay. decay will damage mahito either way as the soul resides in the body and if there is no body the soul is irrelevant(this is the same reason why hollow purple will kill mahito) and shiggy is faster the only way mahito wins is if shiggy cant see mahito which is still unlikely cuz search quirk could likely still see him
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
Shigaraki still can't kill mahito has Shigaraki has no soul-based attacks but mainly because Shigaraki lacks cursed energy to exercise mahito.
@explosivegrape
9 ай бұрын
For Mahito’s technique the soul comes before the body so no matter how many times Mahito turns into dust he’ll come back.
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
@@thyentity6295 this is irrelevant copium
@FuriousFizzyPop
9 ай бұрын
@@explosivegrape thats actually something i forgot about but either way shiggy prolly has a soul and id consider the vestages as a soul as all-for-one can take over his body in the same sense sukuna can
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
@@FuriousFizzyPop not copium if it's true what are you on, do you think saying that somehow makes what I said irrelevant, it is pretty relevant, Shigaraki has no cursed energy so he can't hurt mahito, that's simple and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to kill mahito because he would need soul-based attacks, Shigaraki has no way of actually killing mahito.
@preciousoluwadamiloladunsin
7 күн бұрын
I feel like they would get along pretty well 😂😂
@Savedsmile
6 ай бұрын
All Humans have souls
@theshadow8536
Ай бұрын
FINNALY TWO MEN TRYING TO TOUCH EACH OTHER LMAO
@meisme20
9 ай бұрын
Shiggy just bullies so damn disgustingly horribly😭😭😭
@NotEvenOverThere
Ай бұрын
Even if shigaraki’s decay can spread mahito could just pop off a 0.2 second DE and instantly kill him. Also, decay probably can’t effect the shape of the soul but if it can mahito is still hard to touch in general when he wants to be evasive and is a highly competent and observant fighter. His ability isn’t limited to touching either, he’s demonstrated in multiple occasions that he is capable of ranged fighting by turning himself into a gun or cannon, or even just extending his own body parts. Plus with a domains sure hit effect shigaraki legit has no chance of winning unless Mahito just doesn’t use it
@thedarknessinthelight9824
9 ай бұрын
I feel like Shigaraki would be able to atleast perceive Mahito's existence if he was in the JJK verse simply due to how powerful his hatred is and what cursed energy is.
@mkchable
9 ай бұрын
That's not how cursed energy works. I know it seems as simple as "human negativity" but there's more layers to it than that. Whether or not you can perceive curses also is not dependant on how hateful you are. However, if a curse is threatening your life you become capanle of perceiving them regardless.
@thedarknessinthelight9824
8 ай бұрын
@@mkchable I know it's not just with negativity, but most JJK sorcerers have control over CE due to them knowing how to channel their emotions into power, which is basically what Yuji does on the regular. This is why I said Shigaraki should be able to PERCEIVE Mahito, not outright use CE.
@mkchable
8 ай бұрын
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 That's not my point. My point is that even if you understand the shape of your own soul, you can't harm a cursed spirit without using cursed energy. Anything he does will fail to actually exorcise or kill Mahito. Even Yuji needs to use cursed energy to hurt Mahito.
@thedarknessinthelight9824
8 ай бұрын
@@mkchableActually Yuji doesn't need CE to hurt Mahito, he barely uses Divergent Fist, all he uses is those hands. The only thing negating attacks that aren't CE based from hurting Mahito is his durability ascension due to being able to keep his form with Idle Transfiguration. To say CE is a necessity to harm cursed spirits is blatantly ignoring 75% of JJK. I'd be fine with saying he can't kill Mahito since there are several examples and a statement or two saying only CE or Cursed-Objects can kill Spirits, but nothing says that you can't hurt a spirit without CE.
@mkchable
8 ай бұрын
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 You can infuse cursed energy into your body and fists without it being visible. Also, just because he isn't using Divergent fist doesn't mean he's not using cursed energy.. I think you need to read up on JJK, sir..
@boss5718
Ай бұрын
I feel like with All For One being in his body (if we are going with that version of Shiggy) that might also have some effect on Mahito’s powers. Sort of like the Yuji and Sukuna situation. Though I doubt AFO could threaten Mahito like Sukuna did.
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
9 ай бұрын
I feel like no matter what Tomura wins this. He massively outstats Mahito (Mahito is at best speed of sound while Tomura is at prime All Might levels so he basically blitzes him plus just looking at the power level he operates at is very clear he heavily outmuscles). If you argue he has no soul then he just kills Mahito eventually since super regen refreshes stamina and Mahito will run out eventually. If you argue they both have souls then Tomura can probably resist IT and oneshot Mahito based on the stuff he did against AFO such as sectioning off his origin and hiding it while reclaiming himself.
@Eggshd
9 ай бұрын
Shigaraki can't see Mahito
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
9 ай бұрын
@@Eggshd Obviously for the discussion we assume they can interact.
@johnnyjoestar-jd2tw
9 ай бұрын
shigiraki can touch mahito soul.shigaraki hiding stuff from all for one is kinda soul manipulation,but that won't help against mahito sense he can change his soul essence.the thing with shigarki being able to do that can help but when mahito use his transformation there is no way that shigarki can hurt his soul@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
@someguy4405
3 ай бұрын
these titles are so obnoxious like bro just call it mahito vs shigaraki and tank the 1 view difference
@Cyanduck485
9 ай бұрын
I’m going to be honest Mahito is dead Shigaraki has the Mha equivalent of 2 souls Far better stats And much better range He could easily outlast mahito While mahito needs the isbodk to not get outclassed
@lightningboltct4156
2 ай бұрын
With the stars and stripes fight shows that mahito can’t one tap him he has to go through a tone of quirk before he can get to his main one considering that AFO and shigi are fused together and him not knowing who he is anymore is a big factor
@sungjinwei
5 ай бұрын
For someone reason, the question: "Do MHA characters have souls?" Just made me laugh lol
@higar-ow4wb
Ай бұрын
mahito wins lol
@i3eaniie602
Ай бұрын
7:43 it’s under the sauce
@higar-ow4wb
Ай бұрын
@@i3eaniie602 grrr IM GONNA TOUCH YOU
@Xdreamson
Күн бұрын
No he doesn't lol 😂
@higar-ow4wb
Күн бұрын
Shigaraki won't even see bro so mahito wins
@Xdreamson
Күн бұрын
@@higar-ow4wb even if shigaraki cant see mahito, mahito cant affect him cus shigaraki is aware of the existence of his soul and mahito cant use domain expansion on him cus he has no cursed energy and tbh shigaraki has like 3=sensory quirks even if he doesnt see him mahitos actions still affect his surrounding like the air so shigaraki will still be able to sense him
@character5149
Ай бұрын
idk why, but i can see Mahito trying to shake hands just to see who would kill the other first
@WeebGuru6
9 ай бұрын
U forgot one major factor that’s soul potency if ur soul aka ego is more powerful then mahito u can overpower his technique sukuna shows this so if u think shiggy has a big enough ego to beat his technique
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
Mahito states that sukunas soul is just on another level that has nothing to do with ego
@WeebGuru6
9 ай бұрын
@@thyentity6295 kind of does my guy the soul and ego are one because of a sense of self
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
@@WeebGuru6 not really, sukuna just has a stronger soul mahito states this about sukuna, doesn't matter how big your ego is, if this was the case anyone in jjk with a big ego would overpower mahito which isn't the case, it just depends on how strong and resistant you are to soul attacks and how strong your soul is, unless your like tojis body which can overpower a soul but that's a different case.
@WeebGuru6
9 ай бұрын
@@thyentity6295 that’s my point sukuna ego is so big his soul can’t be turned heck it’s kind of a subplot of the story how modern sorcerers don’t have big enough egos
@thyentity6295
9 ай бұрын
@@WeebGuru6 he's of a higher soul not because of his ego it's because of him being half sorcerer and basically being half curse, not only that he's just at the pinnacle of jujutsu and is the strongest sorcerer and or curse to exist.
@TheTigerShark1784
Ай бұрын
Mahito: Hey bro let me touch you Shiga: nah, let me touch you first! Mahito: Nuh uh let me touch you man!
@explosivegrape
9 ай бұрын
Even with verse equalisation Shigaraki can’t harm Mahito’s soul, runs out of stamina, gets one shot. That’s pretty much the whole fight.
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
9 ай бұрын
He can though. Tomura was able to separate a portion of his soul from AFO and subsume him. He absolutely fulfils the criteria to hit souls and even then super regen refreshes stamina and he massively out stats Mahito so he won’t lose to him.
@explosivegrape
9 ай бұрын
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 Doesn’t really mean much. Nanami can defend his soul but still can’t attack others. Having one soul ability doesn’t automatically mean you’ll have another.
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
9 ай бұрын
@@explosivegrapeYeah sure except Tomura’s situation is almost the exact same as Yuji’s with him having another soul inside him that he can suppress so yes Tomura can hit the soul based on his interactions with AFO.
@explosivegrape
9 ай бұрын
@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 That is true. I didn’t account for that. Gonna think that over.
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
9 ай бұрын
@@explosivegrape The whole soul shenanigans with Mahito and a verse like mha can get weird
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