Nice,also as a yugoslavian I find the Yugoslavia states being mad at each other would be sad to me, if I could feel sad
@turkeygod6665
2 жыл бұрын
Good job man
@akriegguardsman
2 жыл бұрын
Fists
@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126
2 жыл бұрын
And Only
@Predator20357
2 жыл бұрын
Mankind: “We are losing the war!” A Space Marine Chapter full of failed genetic experiments probably called the Mistakes: *Wipes out 5 Tyrannid Hive Minds, 10 Eldar’s bases, 20 Orc Waaaaaaaghs and a Avatar of Khaine*
@staringgasmask
2 жыл бұрын
Cancerous, bedridden Emperor's Child who is one day away from dying: **Destroys three Tombworlds and 8 bodies of Imotekh**
@silentnight6810
Жыл бұрын
One cancerous barely alive guardsman: kamikazes a maiden world
@toheekang174
Жыл бұрын
Losing war my ass
@PeachDragon_
11 ай бұрын
@@toheekang174especially compared to stuff like halo where humanity gets its ass kicked at every single engagement save for daring acts of heroism that only slow down the inevitable. 40k isn't dark, it's edgy, you want dark? Read the fall of reach, child super soldiers being pressed into suicidal missions because they're the only thing that even barely works against an enemy that will inevitably win, and quickly. GW should hire whoever wrote halo reach and the original halo novels, get some actual hopeless darkness in 40k.
@2Quick4You100
11 ай бұрын
@@PeachDragon_ You must be a virgin to 40k lore. There are some really fucked up 40k stories out there.
@reddemon8916
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, for the Helsreach crusade the Black Templars deployed 100 Space Marines, 98 of them died. The only 2 that survived were Reclusiarch „I hate my live“ Grimaldus and a Tech Marine, who only survived because he spent months in a vault trying to power up a nova canon, they’re by not being present in the actual war. The ending was depressing man, the apothecary died and all of the rescued geneseed got destroyed and even Grimaldus was not only pissed that he survived, but also that everyone calls him „the Hero of Helsreach“, as if their was only one… That is I think a good example of „Marines losing but still kicking ass“ story.
@viewtifuljoe4412
2 жыл бұрын
Such a great movie
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
I want more of that shit, I love it.
@TheLuuman
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 i have no idea what 40k even is but like 5 videos into it and everything is insanity. Is there like a series to watch or specific book to read to gain insight on this?
@samuelevans738
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLuuman adeptus ridiculous.
@DINONERD27
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 have you read ‘Rynn’s World’? Fantastic book detailing the royal rodgering of the Crimson Fists by WAAAAAAAGH! Snagrod. Sorry if you brought it up in the video, I’ve only just started watching it
@sorrisal1100
2 жыл бұрын
i kinda dislike the fact that they always say that most space marine chapters don't go beyond 1k marines but in most arts the space marines always have a thousand dudes of the same chapter deployed, kinda wish there where more small and focused chapters, instead of ¨ultramarines but with different strategy/different color¨
@franciscogarciadamiani979
2 жыл бұрын
also the thousand marine cuota is just straight up retarded, should be between 5000 and 10000 or 50000
@hoodie4439
2 жыл бұрын
(maybe) the reason for having artworks like that is that you can have more than 1000 marines if you are on crusade, and Space Marine chapters are on crusade quite a lot
@missignoochodemoonman3239
2 жыл бұрын
I'm building a full chapter at the moment, if you go by the lore there honestly have to be 1400 space marines & scouts at any given time for the force organization to make sense. The techmarines, apothecarium & chaplaincy have combined 30 marines at codex compliancy which makes literally 0 sense given the scale of what a chapter does
@Renewablefrog1224
2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscogarciadamiani979 10k. Whenever games workshop says a population, you add a zero to it for it to make sense.
@brandonlee934
2 жыл бұрын
ya I think a lot of what space marines do should be done by storm troopers with some space marines sprinkled in
@Darek_B52
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Space Marines but I find guardsmen more relatable. Love them in games but in books I prefer Guardsmen
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
I can't relate to the nearly immortal super soldier fighting daemons from hell with magic but I sure as hell can relate to the guy behind a machine gun shitting himself because a bug the size of a mansion just ripped a tank in half in front of him
@Darek_B52
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 don't take it as me hating but Ciaphas Cain is more human than the No Fear space marine. I enjoy them appearing in the story or especially in a game but Guardsmen I just infinitely prefer as they are a bit more human in their reactions. Now Sigmarines...I really have trouble with them. EDIT I misinterpreted PancreasNoWork tone with the above reply...oops.
@Former_Halo_Fan
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 The most relatable character I ever encountered in any book (not just Warhammer) was from the Gaunt's Ghosts series. Try-Again Bragg. He's tall, he has a deep voice, and he is a bit socially awkward. So everyone assumes he's a moron, even though he's actually pretty smart. I feel like that represents myself rather well, personally. That's part of why the Gaunt's Ghosts series is so great - there are so many characters and they're all so distinct. Most of them feel like people that could exist in real-life, and chances are, anyone who reads it is going to find at least one character that resonates them.
@robosoldier11
2 жыл бұрын
“If one of us falls 10 more will take his place!” Yep sounds like desperate humanity going strong.
@NevaehCyanide
2 жыл бұрын
@@Darek_B52 StormChads > VirginMarines
@Burgerzaza
2 жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that every faction should have a creative team dedicated to it that writes lore, makes art, and designs models to be printed so that no faction is left in the dust, and sub factions could get that list treatment with the A. Ultramarines B. Blood Angels C. Salamanders and so on that way noone gets left in the dust on releases and everyone gets to feel like their faction matters and they have a path to victory, everyone has people rooting for them in GW. Maybe if the Tau had their own team wed finally start seeing the auxiliaries, and if the eldar had a creative team we might actually start seeing some models for the ynnari like the Corsairs and Harlequins.
@madmohawk6560
2 жыл бұрын
There's the problem of all the teams going "I'm the main character here" so you'd need a neutral team who could Cadia people at random so none get too big for their boots
@Leo-ok3uj
2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard about Fire Emblem Fates? Yeah, having multiple teams making lore doesn’t really works
@JustBearly
Жыл бұрын
@@Leo-ok3uj I mean, it can work if they all actually talk to each other
@GenericProtagonist118
Жыл бұрын
The best way for this to work is each team being in good contact and communication with each other in case certain things overlap or what the current situation of each story is in.
@madmohawk6560
Жыл бұрын
@@GenericProtagonist118 actually that could lead to really cool stories of forces clashing or teaming up against a bigger threat if they did communicate great
@BossEvasion
2 жыл бұрын
When the "elite" faction has hundreds of more models than other factions, are they really elite? or are they just spoiled?
@viewtifuljoe4412
2 жыл бұрын
As a SM player I hate to be connected to this and I think GW have no idea what they are doing. Though it is nice that new stuff is coming out for Xenos.
@missignoochodemoonman3239
2 жыл бұрын
100% spoiled, but they're the poster faction. Also don't feel like an elite army pricewise, probably because we've got a jillion units and the new option is often the better one (termies & devastators are barely holding on, RIP tac squads)
@nukethenatelore
2 жыл бұрын
they sell far better than any other faction, period. And dont give me "oh but if only they put that love into MY favorite faction they would totally beat sm". SM have been the driving force behind 40k since its inception, and have since 1e been by far the best selling faction. They look cool, are easy to paint, have good lore, and gw can make one mold that works for all the SM factions. The player base of SW or BA alone dwarfs most other factions and most of the models used in those armies are generic SM ones. People complain about "Primaris char #12314" but they make those ktis cause people buy them
@missignoochodemoonman3239
2 жыл бұрын
@@nukethenatelore i've bought entire kits to proxy those characters as well because the price tag offended me. They're fucking good
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
@@nukethenatelore So do the other factions, they all look cool, aren't impossible to paint, not to an unreasonable degree, and what little they have in lore is awsome. So no, I see ZERO reasons for neglecting the other factions to the insulting level that GW does. Let me ask would you be upset like a raging toddler if the other factions started getting about as much love and updates as the space marines get PER faction do now?
@Destroyerofnations
2 жыл бұрын
I just wish we got more stories with them losing, better yet, having them get saved by Guardsmen or a Fleet or something else I don’t know.
@skree272
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.... YEEES Ive written my scion regiment actually saved my marine chapter from extinction and that the scions were scary to the marines being saved (the scions though designed thier uniforms to strike fear, along with other traits in thier training)
@TripleBarrel06
2 жыл бұрын
@@skree272 I agree with that, my Space Marines, Guard Regiment, and Knight House are all from the same system, but they all work as branches of a single (doomed) force because they're hemmed in by Necrons, Chaos, and Tau (and probably some Orks, there's always some Orks) and that's taught them a bunch of harsh lessons about going off alone. E.g. the Marines' 5th Company are currently rebuilding because they were stubborn and got themselves trapped behind enemy lines without telling anyone, and it's only that the Guard happened to be engaging that same force and putting together an impromptu push to their location (at great personal cost to the Guard), that the few surviving Marines can say they're alive.
@skree272
2 жыл бұрын
@@TripleBarrel06 yeah, my space marine chapter usually tries to keep casualties low on all sides, most definitely civillians, they would rather be burnt than let civillians die, however this causes them to take risks that end up with a sticky situation for the marines
@basition
2 жыл бұрын
Being saved by guard is uplifting but not a good idea. The marines usually shoe up when the guard is boned to unbone them. Having them get saved by guard when they tend to be shoving themselves into the hard to reach places of the enemy sounds weird.
@JustBearly
Жыл бұрын
@@basition I think that's moreso because it's what we're used to, even though it's probably not something we should be used to. The Guardsmen shouldn't be "the guys who get saved" when they're the closest in setting to modern day soldiers.
@ok_kobold
2 жыл бұрын
As an ork fan girl, the Beast series is also a space marine focused party. The Prophet of the Waaagh book is legit, tho. Need more of that, a grot pov is great.
@big_tymerro
2 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing is that there’s so much potential to explore space marines’ weaknesses against other factions. I would love to read about a battle between Space Wolves and the T’au where the Wolves get absolutely annihilated before they even make eye contact with the T’au, hundreds of rockets and lasers completely destroying the Marines. Or Imperial Fists getting ambushed by the Dark Eldar, completely unable to set up defensive positions, disorganized and slowly being picked off one by one by lightning fast strikes and horrible monsters. Show us the weak parts, if Space Marines are to lose, don’t make it a brave last stand where the victor takes a lot of damage, give me a crushing and demoralizing defeat! Great vid as always, and you already know I’m flexing my emote
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
It's like I said, I don't hate the Space Marines. They're awesome. Just so overexposed and overhyped that they can't help but develop some bad feelings.
@Biotear
Жыл бұрын
Tbh the Tau should be constantly clapping the Wolves. They are literally MADE for giving Leman's furries Prospero flashbacks
@BrotherVoidBomber
2 жыл бұрын
Or another way to fix the lore is to show that yes the space marines are the best thing since water but they aren't enough. Yes they can single handily kick the fuck out of a race that does nothing but eat sleep and fight but its not enough. Have them go to a planet to win only to hear about the other 5 they didnt have enough time to get to fall to another faction. The imperiam biggest problem is fighting on top many fronts so show this.
@TheKingsPride
2 жыл бұрын
This is overtly stated in the lore. There’s less than five hundred thousand space marines for over a billion imperial worlds. Space marines change any battlefield when they arrive, but they can’t be everywhere at once.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
2 жыл бұрын
Reminding people that Space Marines are discount, made with cheaper parts Custodes might also help, so that Space Marines and everyone else can bond over their mutual impotence.
@LordVader1094
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKingsPride It's never portrayed in practice though.
@TheKingsPride
2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 you only see space marines in the battles they take part in. There are plenty that they don’t. I don’t really understand where you’re coming from here, because like I said it’s pretty overt in the lore. Do you want them to say it verbatim in every story?
@myduckisonqauck7227
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKingsPride around a million space marines for around a million worlds. Plus a million primaris
@MLJ-zp3ju
2 жыл бұрын
My small town got its first game store in years, and it's first store that's ever sold Warhammer 3 months ago. According to the owner, in a town where almost no one knows what Warhammer is, the most popular races have been Orks and Necrons, with the 2 Imperial Knights he was given also selling as well. Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanics, and Imperial Guard have basically moved nothing in that time. The funniest thing about this is that since the store is so new, the one big order of stock they put in for was apparently hand picked by Games Workshop themselves, who tries to provide this fledgling store with their "best sellers", which was essentially 2x the number of Space Marine kits than any other.
@Noble6Espeo
2 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how silly they are, Honestly corporations in general don't think. It's the same with 711 and their shit policies that ignore all the nuanced details of a location or even any data. Relating that back to GW and its easy to see how clear community backed wishes and ideas are backlogged to shove more SM content down our throats. Like, I am a Space Marine player, Dark Angels, and even I think its too much to the point of annoyance. Not hard to see how Eldar players especially have the right to complain.
@MLJ-zp3ju
2 жыл бұрын
@@Noble6Espeo It's ridiculous. All the vehicles they picked for them were Imperial too, besides one (1!) small Death Guard tank. There are two (2!) bastard Land Raiders that have been sitting on the shelves for months. I'm considering just buying one, painting it red and sticking a bunch of razor blades to it to make it a roight propa loota.
@marrvynswillames4975
2 жыл бұрын
The Space Wolves thing is funny, Fenris canonically got a minuscle population (3 million top), Magnus wrecked the place, yet, surprise, Primaris solve the problem. It would be good to see the Wolves having to make new recruitment in other planets as well as actually stepping down from their mountains to help the population, reinforcements can only help so much if the population is now too small to actually sustain the chapter.
@deaconblack8939
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on for the table, any release that isn't SM is a win. I don't care who gets it, anything that's new adds to to the table looking even better. Lore, I want to see Black templar get humbled by Word Bearers in an epic "that's a nice book you got there...would be a shame if some one revealed its origins"...I'm not biased you're biased😆
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
I would be so happy if the word bearers did that to one of the religious chapters. "Hey bud, I see you worship the God-Emperor...you know who wrote that fancy book of yours?"
@deaconblack8939
2 жыл бұрын
It might be too edgy of concept for GW though
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
@@deaconblack8939 in the same universe as the Dark Eldar, rape daemons and the Daemonculaba idk if anything can be considered “too edgy.”
@deaconblack8939
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 No no, the idea of having one of their main groups get humbled by lowly degenerate traitors
@chambers0071
2 жыл бұрын
Meh, they probably either keep it under wraps or straight up NOT take their word for it because why would you believe a traitor
@waspoptic
2 жыл бұрын
One of the problems I can think of when releasing Space Marines every single week for the Tabletop is the fact that by neglecting other factions, people beginning don't want to move onto/try out the others because in a literal week more Space Marine stuff will come out for them. If GW gave more models and lore to the other factions, whether its Imp Guard, Mechanicus, Eldar, Tyranids, Necrons, Orks, etc consistently then more people would be interested in giving them a shot. Hell, Chaos doesn't even receive nearly the same amount of love as Space Marines and they are suppose to be the biggest threat to the Imperium. Really tho, it just annoys me with how often I see Space Marine vs Space Marine games because its the only faction people want to try and play.
@Bluecho4
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but Space Marines have so many models, they cover almost every playstyle a player might want to run, with the exception of horde. Most other armies have, to some degree, an amount of specialization, even if each army has a couple different "modes". Tyranids have hordes, big monsters, and psychic spam. Eldar have psychic spam and speed, but are also glass cannons. Etc, etc. But Space Marines can do basically everything, with the right list. As such, a person who started with Space Marines has the choice of either spending a bunch of money to build a whole new army to test out a different playstyle...or they can spend comparatively less, adding a few units to their existing Space Marine force. Allowing them to try out different strategies at minimal expense and much faster. When you create an army that's so versatile, you encourage players to never leave that army.
@tzeentchlordoffates9268
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluecho4 Thousand Sons only have 5 units they can field for a pure Thousand Sons army. They might eventually get the Infernal Master as a 6th unit if they sell him as a separate box from the terrible combat patrol.
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
Space Marines are great and should very much continue being the face of the game, but no ones ever going to branch out if the other options clearly get less love and you can only buy so many space marines.
@marcusaaronliaogo9158
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 Space Marines are like gen 1 pokemon, they are overused and become tiring to see other generations being neglected.
@dalecal1129
2 жыл бұрын
@@tzeentchlordoffates9268 To be fair, that's entirely because of the way the cult legions work. As much as we Chaos players like to pretend otherwise, the Death Guard and Thousand Sons aren't REALLY their own factions. They're Chaos Marine sub-factions with their own codices. Functionally, they're not all that different from the Space Marine codex supplements.
@jamesmacken9501
2 жыл бұрын
The key to getting xenos books to ensure the good authors get their hands on them, infinite and the divine is beloved and you can bet your ass necrons will get more love because of that success. Eldar as of recent had the ynnari books that were cancelled, and while everyone felt bad for eldar that they got cancelled, I look to eldar players to see them celebrating because they thought they were shit. Beast arises had a decent start but fell off in quality part way through. We need good writers on xenos books and enough consistent quality in series for them that they won't either be dropped or only have half decent series you'll only read half the entries for.
@nathanieleck1023
2 жыл бұрын
As an eldar player, the ynnari series was painfully bad. Firstly, just as a critique of the writing. All the characters were flat, there were some pretty egregious cases of telling instead of showing, most of the books was boring drudgery, and it was very rarely ever satisfying. From a note in universe perspective, the eldar are written horribly and not like eldar at all. The power scales are all wrong, they act in ways you’d almost never see eldar acting, and it finishes by accomplishing and changing nothing :)
@TheKingsPride
2 жыл бұрын
Twice Dead King also kicked ass. Necrons have had a serious renaissance in terms of novels recently.
@marrvynswillames4975
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe get Andy Chambers to write a new Ynnari book? He did a great job with his Path of the Dark Eldar story
@yaelz6043
2 жыл бұрын
At this point the only way to save Eldar lore is to outright redo the whole Ynnari thing with better writers.
@gunterthekaiser6190
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanieleck1023 I always felt like the Eldar books where good at creating a setting but bad at telling a story in that environment. The three path books where meh plot wise but the details and descriptions where imo really interesting. First Ynnari book ( I think?) with the geanstealers jumped from ok to badass to utter trash. I feel like having more than 1 author would help in that regard
@DocPlaysVideoGames
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I fell in love with the Crimson Fists is they've always been the underdogs. They got aced in their main book and reduced to a barely functioning amount. Every death was a major loss and the Orks were absolutely winning Rynn's World. By the end, when a Fist showed up, it was mostly to keep up morale amongst the normal humans during a losing war. The CFs didn't really win the war on their own either, instead having to bet everything on a small move so the Imperium could save their planet. Of course, with the introduction of the Primaris instant-fixing the chapter, everything that made the CFs interesting was thrown out the window. They're no longer a Chapter with some of the smallest numbers, refusing to give in no matter the odds. Now they're just another chapter in dark blue.
@Noble6Espeo
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly its always been my biggest pet pieave HOW primaris were introduced more than their introduction. It was Cawl taking Corax's failed Raptor project and making new marines on his on initiative just some secret plot from Gman that could have bailed the Imperium out and any point before now. It wasn't a slow move to accepting them across the stubborn first born chapters and imbalance of first born elitism or pride against primaries ego and naivete.
@tomgeytenbeek2207
2 жыл бұрын
:’(
@chuckcharlez
2 жыл бұрын
I hate that you're right. They're mega underrated and have amazing lore!
@Sorain1
Жыл бұрын
See this is why making the Primaris just an upgrade kit (in universe) that Cawl unleashed at Gulliman's command for regular Space Marines would have been a better idea to roll with. You miss out on the 'new vs old' angle, but you gain so much for it.
@lornbaker1083
2 жыл бұрын
Actually where DID most of the guard go? we had the mongolian style roughriders. The oddly american US marine in dress uniform looking mordian iron guard. The krieg who are thankfully making a comeback (The steel legion was krieg lite so that could be fixed with paint jobs.) We dont have most of them anymore. Like what about the Elysian drop troopers and there ODST style? Or the voystrian firstborn Looking right out steampunk russia? The valhallens are famous thanks to caiphas cains novels but do they get any model love? NOPE. Or how about yeah THE TALLAREN DESERT RADIERS! I want my army of space mujaheddin wearing guard issue shemaghs with lasguns that have curved mags like AKs. I Like space marines. But I would never deny GW has NO love for any other faction in 40k as anything other then bolter fodder (xenos and choas) or background filler (the rest of the imperium)
@themanthemyth4522
2 жыл бұрын
They left because that's a lot of regiments, like A LOT and making the same model for all of those different factions would take so much resources
@Nobody-zl3kk
Жыл бұрын
@@themanthemyth4522 *Looking at space marines but with an extra bit of armor while the vine boom sound effect plays in the background*
@dogshake
Жыл бұрын
@@themanthemyth4522 y..you’re describing space…you’re just talking about space marines!
@addisonwelsh
10 ай бұрын
@@dogshake Space Marine appearances don't differ as drastically as Guard appearances. Look at two chapters side-by-side. Then do the same with the guard. Who looks more different?
@thelouster5815
10 ай бұрын
That’s because cannon fodder is always cannon fodder no matter how you dress them up. It doesn’t matter what the specialties of different IG regiments have. In the end they all die in colossal numbers while waiting for the Space Marines to show up and do all the heavy lifting.
@isaacfransonfilm2139
2 жыл бұрын
Bro what the FUCK!? Why are these eldar getting releases and space marines aren't getting ANYTHING! This isn't FAIR
@mojotheaverage
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who thinks that the space wolves are the most try hard, edgelord, viking wannabe fan fic faction in 40k I am fully down for them just getting wiped out
@silberhornj
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure who decided to go all in on the Wolf part of the Space Wolves but turning Vikings in space into werewolves in space is a leap that I can't quite understand.
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
My man
@john46525
2 жыл бұрын
If they went more in the viking direction and less autistic wolves in space theme, I'd like them alot more but honestly I can't find myself caring what happens to them rn
@Noble6Espeo
2 жыл бұрын
@@john46525 Honestly yeah. I heard a headcannon thing that honestly is the only thing that keep them even palletable in my head, that all the times you hear wolf are Imperial archivists not having a clean translation for a nuanced fenrisian term. It's just sad because they have the potential to be a Chapter brim full with culture and definition but just became the wolf boys because why lean into vikings as hard as ultramarines leaned to romans when you can spam "wolf"
@john46525
2 жыл бұрын
@@Noble6Espeo the roman theme is honestly the only thing keeping me on board with the Ultramarine. The poet thing to do is have Ultramar fragment and fall apart like the irl Roman empire boom they're now underdogs barely keeping it together.
@nichtfelixh2316
2 жыл бұрын
Theres a really cool series for the Necrons called "the twice dead: ruin" and then also Reign. If you enjoyed infinite and divine you'll surely enjoy that one as well
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
I will give it a go!
@FishySpiderGuy
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 It's specifically The Twice Dead King Duology and, while only two books, absolutely incredible.
@Wormy_fren
2 жыл бұрын
As of your comment on the Horus heresy not feeling apocalyptic. I'd request for you to listen or read the fury of Magnus. Genuinely shows how demolished Terra was midway into the seige. And emperor knows what it looked like during it's later stages.
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
Yes these comments are what I was expecting very happy to see my Farseer abilities are still functioning properly.
@heightnoworkchris8093
2 жыл бұрын
Based
@lucklord7
2 жыл бұрын
Farseet, the only thing in the way of seeing their feet is an ars ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@piratekingthaszar7912
2 жыл бұрын
Silly elves. They train for millenia to be a farseer, but I can pick up these binoculars and be a far seer in seconds.
@ryancrazyrhino8976
2 жыл бұрын
"Delete the Space Wolves" Mega based I 100% agree
@andrebonds4199
2 жыл бұрын
Man I thought I was the only one who hated them.
@Predator20357
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrebonds4199 I am not deep into 40K but are they equivalent to Edgy Gary Stus?
@cc-bk3tx
2 жыл бұрын
@@Predator20357 Yes
@Scarletraven87
2 жыл бұрын
They are the fantasy of a 12 year old... ...which is an issue when you stop beeing 12 years old.
@ka1juhunt3r
2 жыл бұрын
@@Scarletraven87 and how many wolves novels have you read?
@captianbubbles4674
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is? I'd love to see some of the things you mentioned, and I've been saying to my friends for years how great it would be. Don't just give us a War in Heaven book series; start with Szarekh's ascension to power as the silent king, Necron Politics are game of thrones-y enough that it would be really cool to read. After that, have some books detailing the Necrons first attempt at sticking it to the old ones; it failed. Miserably. You can then have a book in much the same vein as the Horus Rising trilogy, having the Deciever giving the necrons immortality. You could bring back characters like Trazyn and Orikan, at the beginning of their personal fued. Go through the war, cover how the necrons have basically won, having driven the Old ones to extinction and ran off the eldar to the edge of the galaxy. The orks are still around, of course, but only because they're ... well, orks. Or Kroks in this case. You could have a whole slew of books detailing how the Necrons betray the C'tan, hell, having a book covering how the Flayer is outright KILLED rather than shattered like the rest of them would be awsome. Then there could be a somber end to the story when Szerekh has almost everyone go to sleep, and then straight up leaves the galaxy. And all of this is JUST from the Necron side. There's still the Eldar, Orks, and Old ones, as well as whatever GW could manage to cook up.
@joesheridan9451
Жыл бұрын
It would be so so good and it hurts me that I have so little faith Gw will do it
@Astartes-6969
2 жыл бұрын
I don't dislike them. I hate the fact that their the face of the entire franchise. I wanna see more Sisters of War, Guardsmen, Tau, and Aeldar Comics, Books, Animated Films, Video Games. I wanna see a story of a regular Citizen of the Imperium going from a regular depressed guy to someone who goes thru all the magnificent & horrible stuff in the 40k Universe and becomes a major character. I wanna see another Human Faction as powerful as the Imperium or Tau. I just wanna see something other then Space Marines. The problem is that if Games Workshop does do this, the Fandom would complain like stupid baby bitches and send them death threats like always
@danitron4096
Жыл бұрын
Space Marines are the most popular, not because GW wants them, but because they just ARE. People don't hate space marines, angry people online hate space marines.
@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
Жыл бұрын
@@danitron4096 I'm fairly certain that people who hate them online hate them in real life too, chief. But really, the Marines need to either have their popularity lowered or the other factions need to have the same popularity. Show T'au allied Guardsmen fighting against a force of Eldar Exodites. Do OTHER stuff to show how it's not just Space Catholics versus everything else and the kitchen sink.
@TendiesMcNugget
Жыл бұрын
I gotta say as a Necron player I feel this so hard, but also i love that my space marines are an exception to your lore rule in that every time the Imperial Fists show up the chapter gets almost entirely wiped out. Also you can't have a War in Heaven arc because where would the space marines be? It would make the Necrons and Eldar too cool.
@hiltedhobbies
2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% with this video. Kinda funny how I ended up going Raven Guard when it came to building an army due to Istavaan, but that is still Horus Heresy lore so that doesn't count. Still funny how that made them more likable to me and directly as your point stated, the SM getting some L's would make them more likable.
@Noble6Espeo
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah some reasaonable L's make a faction all the better. I'm a Dark Angels fan a player who generally dislikes the blood angels and ultramarines because they vaunted as so perfect. Meanwhile I will 100% make exceptions and say that I love Lamenters and Celestial Lions because they lost and got their shit kicked in before dying or regrouping. Even if the chapter is left struggling and rebuilding to keep model sales, losses and meaningful ones are important. another good example is Raven Guard and Imperial Fists. First born like the others I mentioned but they have had their asses beat before spitting out blood and going for round 2 in a way ultramarines and blood angles, until the devastation of ball, rarely do. Hell to me the most metal things Blood Angles ever did was renegades and loyalist chapters across the entire lineage coming to defend Baal because they were *losing and losing badly*
@artoriassif3728
Жыл бұрын
that dark souls 2 opinion was fire
@robkemp598
2 жыл бұрын
You could do an Fall of the Eldar book that's similar to 2004 Battlestar Galactica, constantly on the run with enemies hunting them down, looking for a safe harbour with every lost battle meaning a loss of resources they can't get back. I think people would love it. Plus you could flesh out Great crusade factions like the Rangdan, Laer cults or Fra'el as the the main bad guys looking to exploit the fleeing, weakened craftworld
@TransientLunatic
Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with the Marines is that they’re… kind of boring. Most chapters are just kind of disconnected from the actual population of the imperium, to the point where all the talk of fighting for humanity is kind of hollow. Marines almost by definition don’t have lives outside of being warriors. They don’t have families, they don’t have ambitions beyond martial prowess, and they don’t often interact with people who do. I think that’s part of why marine losses often don’t feel very impactful. When guardsmen die, it’s a tragedy. When marines die, it’s a glorious culmination of their lives as purpose-crafted warriors. There’s a few exceptions, like the ultramarines, but even they are the stand-outs simply by virtue of like, caring about *humanity* instead of just *the imperium*.
@parkermaisterra8532
2 жыл бұрын
7:39 With the Tau I think they actually get a fair amount of attention from Black Library compared to other none imperial factions. The Rogue Trader series was about the Imperium discovering and fighting the Tau during the Damocles Gulf Crusade, they were fighting extremely evenly against the Imperium in Blades of Damocles, the Farsight novels kick total ass and hell War of Secrets was just a Tau book with Dark Angel Camouflage. The only thing I could possibly ask for when it comes to Tau is books having them fight factions that *aren't* the Imperium or Orks. What about Eldar, Dark Eldar- hell I don't think I've ever seen a Tau novel where they fight the Tyranids even though thats a major reason why the Imperium decided to keep them around so they could act as a buffer.
@gregorde
2 жыл бұрын
The Tau hate the dark eldar. There’s a story where the DE eldar help the Tau against Tyranids. The grateful Tau Agree to send some folks as “cultural exchange”… yada yada … an entire Tau world is abducted.
@CyrodiilCome
2 жыл бұрын
There are 4 main "tau" books all focused on Farsight. 2 anthology books that have a combine 2 stories in it focused on tau. There are 3 main title necron books 1 which is on the way. Eldar have over 11, orks have 6. This is only counting where there main protagonist is that species and they're not the villain of the week for the imperium.
@parkermaisterra8532
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorde I've heard of it but damn it I wish we got a novel centered on it
@henryviiifake8244
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorde To be fair... _everyone_ hates the Dark Eldar (although calling them 'Dark Eldar' is misleading - we should probably be calling the Craftworld Eldar the "Goody-two-shoes Eldar", or something, since they were the exception in Eldar culture pre-Slaanesh 🤷♂️)
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly want to see books about the t'au's gue'vesa or humans that joined, born into or were annexed by these them. Maybe a series of novels that go into detail of the lives and perspectives of roughly three gue'vesa characters. Imagine one that's follows the life of a guardsman whose unit was captured by the t'au and were given the opportunity to serve and seeing as their commisar had...conveniently *'died in battle'* decided to take them up on that offer. Another could be about charaters who are generations removed from Imperium rule, having lived under the t'au's influence their whole lives, what's it like to be raised under an ideology from another species. And finally some books about similar born and raised gue'vesa maybe a character for both of the t'au empires OG and Farsight's respectively that's undergoing their first war campaigns, ideally against Imperium worlds and seeing the otherside, seeing fellow humans that have been raised to hate the xenos and the heretics that they and their t'au comrades are to them, maybe try to convince them otherwise with mixed results. Also I want a coupl books about a badass gue'vesa commander and his t'au and kroot friends as they find themselves in the employe of an especially eccentric rogue trader.
@brandonlee934
2 жыл бұрын
for space marines losing, since they're not usually active in more than groups of 10 or so (right???) why not just mention space marine squads getting wiped out more. Like a squad came to help the imperial guard secure a facility and have the squad all die or just take casualties and have to pull out. Throw in a couple events where space marines lose a whole company or two and you're golden. honestly space marines should NOT have been their own faction, they should be a small allied attachment to imperial guard, sisters of battle, or inquisitor faction. Have storm troopers take the place of space marines during most operations, maybe introduce better tech for them to compensate for this fact as well
@shadowdevil126
Жыл бұрын
While I agree with this it shouldn't be a mention that xenos win and that's it like how it almost always is, it should be a full story where the xenos win for once
@wilfchapman-gandy8120
2 жыл бұрын
I said before that the Eldar are the Security Chief Warf of 40k. Constant lip-service paid to their incredible potency, so whenever you need to show off that a new character is extra cool you have them beat an Eldar. One of my things is that the Black Templar constantly go on crusade, seemingly ignoring the fact that the crusades all failed.
@Hosheyakozilla
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Sadly while Worf eventually got chances to be more badass in DS9 and First Contact, the Eldar have never been able to advance past this stage. The wankery of the Space Marines and the general usage of the "Humanity Speshul!" trope in Warhammer 40k is one of the reasons I find it difficult to get into compared to Warhammer Fantasy (which generally balanced its races better, though the Empire, Dwarfs and High Elves certainly got a majority of novels), though that's just an opinion.
@21526
2 жыл бұрын
Problems with Space marines: -for a supposedly super elite force they are everywhere in the lore and on the tabletop to the point where there are half a dozen variants of SM that are even more elite than regular marines -Them being all male is a stupid relic of 80s and 90s sci fi -Them being fearless is bad for the lore and the game. Lorewise it makes them difficult to empathize with or write since they don't experience things in a relatable way. Tabletop wise making roughly half the armies in the game immune to morale kinda invalidates the mechanic.
@danklord4315
2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a halo book where the first chapter was about 300 Spartans where sent to on a mission and only like 2 of em survived. Seeing how op these Spartans are and that many died in just the initial assault makes it depressing because no matter how good they were a couple of well placed attacks will decimate the enemy. If they did something like that for space marines it be cool to see
@S3Cs4uN8
2 жыл бұрын
RIP the 598 Spartan-III's of operations PROMETHEUS and TORPEDO.
@danklord4315
2 жыл бұрын
@@S3Cs4uN8 600?! Are you shitting me, you telling me I underfuckingsold it
@S3Cs4uN8
2 жыл бұрын
@@danklord4315 There were two operations, each consisting of 300 deployed S-III's, all were killed in the first mission (PROMETHEUS) and only 2 survivors walked away from the second (TORPEDO). There were another 300 S-III's that were intended for a third operation but they were never deployed iirc.
@latrodectusmactans7592
2 жыл бұрын
One thing about the Tau origin is that it’s heavily implied to be distorted in myth to give the Ethereals validity. I think the War in Heaven is way more important to flesh out, but as a Tau fan, I would love to see that part of history revealed to be far different from what the modern Tau know.
@calebbarnhouse496
Жыл бұрын
More interesting would be if the Etherals lied on it not for the sake of power or anything like that, but distorting history soley for the greater good of all beings
@Sorain1
Жыл бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496 "Look, we can't tell them the truth. If we did, the Empire shatters and while the common caste on the street doesn't know how bad the Galaxy is, We do. Do we need to know the truth? Yes, without it we cannot see how far we have to go for the Greater Good sometimes. Does anyone, literally anyone outside the chroniclers of our caste need to know? No. I'd say most among our own caste can not know it, lest it slip out. We must keep such knowledge to the Enlightened ones only." - Tau Ethereal if GW cared to write them better, speaking on the truth of how the Tau united. Now if that sounds awfully familiar to the reasons behind [Redacted by order of the Inquisition] to you? Good. You have been paying attention.
@calebbarnhouse496
Жыл бұрын
@Sorain1 which would make the tau dark in a way that is perfect for them, they don't have to have a very inconsistent rule set of how much control the ethereal have, and it allows the ethereals to have A skeleton in there closet while remaining actual contrasts to how the tau work, If you've ever played 40k Gladius tau story you'd see in that game they treat the ethereal control like way blatant mind control to the point where your guy wants to help his freind/lady that likes him romantically rebel, but instead swaps a switch that kills all of there auxiliary forces on the planet as well as everyone else
@Sorain1
Жыл бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496 Yeah, I really, REALLY disliked the way that was setup. Tau works best as a contrast to the rest and a sort of 'throwback to what the Imperium was during the Great Crusade' faction. The Ethereals doing straight up mind control just doesn't work as well as having a very careful watch for deviance, solid charisma, a broadly applicable world view to sell... and some shady skeletons in their closet that causes internal issues within their caste. The parallel of 'redacting stuff to protect the people' would work nicely and let people consider that the Inquisition likely started out that way too and we know where that lead. Tau's position thematically should be the rising power that rhymes with humanity's own rise in the past. That includes the specter that they could end up going the way of pre age of strife humanity or full on Imperium level evil as they have to face the horrors of 40k's setting and make the same hard choices about dealing with it.
@thejuiceking2219
11 ай бұрын
i mean you think about it, tau would be perfect for novels, they're the underdogs of the setting, and they're new so they're good for newcomers as an audience surrogate to the horrors of the galaxy
@ka1juhunt3r
2 жыл бұрын
I find the space wolves the most relatable and human chapter of them all, there stories are very nicely written and there the only chapter to give the middle finger to the inquisition and have the balls to stand up to them when a whinny inquisitor doesn’t get to genocide the people of Armageddon, there charcters are quite distinct from the wise beyond years bjorn the fell handed to the benevolent yet brutal leader Logan grimnar to the brazen and brash krom dragon gaze, the shitposter Lukas the trickster to the quick learning young hero of Ragnar blackmane, the only people that don’t like the wolves are the ones who have never read there stories, don’t judge a book by its cover because these guys are one of the best marine chapter out there.
@skree272
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the space wolves for telling the inquisitor to fuck off, esp because i love armageddon steel legion, and plan to ally both at some point
@ka1juhunt3r
2 жыл бұрын
@@skree272 make sure to get logan grimnar in there as he was the lad that killed that POS inquisitor.
@skree272
2 жыл бұрын
@@ka1juhunt3r prolly will, my wolves are currently lead by a fan oc, Kodran Icegrip
@sulphuric_glue4468
2 жыл бұрын
The Space Wolves telling the Inquisition to get bent is cool, but the entirety of the rest of the Months of Shame is some of the most brainless lore ever written for 40k. The Grey Knights in general have arguably the worst-written, most nonsensical, least intelligent lore in the entire setting - and certainly not dumb in a deliberate fun way like the Orks.
@tobyjohn4682
Жыл бұрын
Ong, fuck the inquisition.
@UrbanArmada
2 жыл бұрын
The only stories I can think of where Marines get their shit pushed in is the Fall of Damnos where the Ultras get overrun by Necrons, or the Devestation of Baal where, let's face it, a bunch of faceless Blood Angel successors died and old man Dante lived after fighting a Swarm lord.
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I mean by meaningful. No one of importance ever dies and the supposed severe losses are fixed away almost immediately.
@wirelessmouse9579
2 жыл бұрын
Because every faction that isn't Space Marines feels like it only exists to give Space Marines someone cool to fight against, or as a faction for the space marines to save.
@anarchohelenism
2 жыл бұрын
So when I got back into 40k after an 8 years break, I was really interested in exploring what it would be like to be a common citizen of the imperium during a chaos invasion. It’s one thing to have hundreds of books and games devoted to the power fantasy of being a space marine, it’s another to have a much more relatable story about trying to make your way through the hardest life you could possibly have when suddenly your friends and family start getting ripped from the inside out by demons. And in your sheer terror, when all hope is lost, you see giant walking humans in armor coming to save you, draped in a religious and divine aura. In that moment the space marines would truly feel like the angels of death, coming to save you.
@thecruzking
2 жыл бұрын
I maybe wrong. But wouldn't the player character be executed for knowing about/being in contact with chaos. The whole "tainted". Might make for a tragic ending. But I agree with you some more grounded stuff like you mentioned would be nice.
@anarchohelenism
2 жыл бұрын
@@thecruzking Yeah I was just thinking a story like that would probably end with the marines purging the very people they were trying to save lol. Which fits 40k.
@thelouster5815
10 ай бұрын
That’d be a very short story that ends in an extremely brutal death. Either by Chaos or the Space Marines since even seeing a Daemon makes you tainted and a major threat to the Imperium.
@emperorontheinternet6510
2 жыл бұрын
What I hate about them is that they have this huge model range and their models still feel the same I don't know the difference between a captain in Gravis armor and one in phobos armor. Stormcast suffer from the same problem btw
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know. I feel like it shouldn't be THIS hard to make unique looking models for different space marine chapters in terms of their shapes while still adhering to the whole armored truck on legs design of them.
@The-Blue-Knight
2 жыл бұрын
My introduction to Warhammer was the Space Marine game. Love it. Then a buddy showed me fan animations like Astartes and I really liked em. Then I started watching lore videos and meme videos. Warhammer is really cool. I still have much to learn but I'm happy I'm here.
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
Space Marines are awesome, don't get me wrong. They're a fantastic part of the setting. They're just so overdone compared to everyone else in my opinion.
@The-Blue-Knight
2 жыл бұрын
@@pancreasnowork9939 understandable
@pancreasnowork9939
2 жыл бұрын
I just want the funny internet video to work man.
@tycurry6799
2 жыл бұрын
What?
@wrigglenightbug8679
2 жыл бұрын
@@tycurry6799 He just the funny internet video to work.
@tycurry6799
2 жыл бұрын
@@wrigglenightbug8679 Ight lemme try again, what?
@wrigglenightbug8679
2 жыл бұрын
@@tycurry6799 he just want the funny internet video to work
@PatchtheReaper99
2 жыл бұрын
In the time it took Eldar to get one partial range update space marines got at least two, new variants, and a relaunch. At the very least they make me not dislike the stormcasts as much as I probably would if they had a similar release schedule, not to mention not nearly as much plot armor
@warsmithbrad9897
8 ай бұрын
Storm of Iron is my favourite book (as my name would suggest) not only do the Imperial Fists lose (granted they don't contribute any significant numbers) but they lose hard once Hydra Cordatus falls.
@disgruntledtoons
Жыл бұрын
From the perspective of being able to identify with the protagonists, the Imperial Guard make the most sense for a novel. The only difference between you and an Imperial Guardsman is that you haven't signed on with them.
@averagetectonicplateenjoyer
7 ай бұрын
5:28 the answer as a guess is probably that the empire is absolutely massive and in comparison to millions on millions of worlds theres a lot of the less space marines in comparison
@chahineyalla4838
2 жыл бұрын
I remember that when I started getting into 40K as a kid, what struck me was how in the lore, space marines were close to invincible... and then you put them on the table, and sure, they are more powerful than their enemies on a 1v1 basis, but significant numbers of them still end up getting killed by stupid orks that they would have wiped the floor with in any book. I always thought that space marines should not have been a separate faction. There should be an Imperium faction, with mostly imperial guards, and you can deploy one or so unit of space marines, and they're absolutely overpowered. That would represent the lore much better.
@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, putting them in the Guard would be a lot more cool and tactically make sense. Have them be Ogryns on combat stims.
@michaelman957
Жыл бұрын
I want a book where the Ultras lose, the Eldar bail them out, the Lamenters have to complete the Ultras original mission, and, with the help of the Guardsmen, they do. Not to hate on the Ultras, but to help them be interesting by not having then win by default
@zoidsfan12
2 жыл бұрын
As someone with only a khorne army I definitely have seen the favoritism. Cuz for all the chaos gods it's like "you get 5 units, best I can do". And due to the lack of the units working well together the best strategy is to just mass bloodletters. Please give chaos some more variety. It's cool what we got but I know there is room for so much more. For instance for khorne, the skull cannon/throne is exactly the sort of aesthetic you could run with. More forgeborn constructs to bring into battle. I mean I guess we have the cool dark mechanicus stuff that's khornate but like give me more stuff my daemons can ride in on. And for that matter just give me some names daemons and lore on them. Give me more stories like Tuska the daemon Killa. Because this is exactly the aesthetic of khorne. He should have great champions from all myriad of races and times.
@Nobody-zl3kk
Жыл бұрын
GW: Did you say? Please spam bloodletters!? Oh boy will you like the new combat patrol (Just memeing here ofc)
@jett2688
6 ай бұрын
I can’t forgive this video for the blatant dark souls 2 favoritism and slanderous denial of Dark Souls 3’s thematic intent.
@Bluecho4
2 жыл бұрын
I think part of why the Space Marines almost always win is because in whatever story they appear in, 9 times out of 10 they are the viewpoint characters. The story gets told from their perspective. As such, even when they get bodied, it's still a pyrrhic victory for them. All but a couple of the marines involved die, but they still technically win. GW cannot help themselves putting the audience into the Space Marine perspective, and that skews the authorial scales in their favor. The ultimate source of this is GW's general proclivity to make Humanity - or rather the Imperium - the default viewpoint for 40K. Vanishingly few stories put the Imperium in the antagonist role, that non-Imperium characters need to deal with. (Notable exception that proves the rule: the Necron novel Twice Dead King: Ruin. When the Imperium shows up, they are properly terrifying.) Which is really the answer to how one fixes the Space Marines: give more equal narrative representation to people who aren't the Imperium of Man.
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
That why liked the story about the fall of the Diasporex a nomadic fleet of humans AND aliens that were descended from what were basically some pre-Age of Strife interstellar merchant fleets. And while that tale is told mostly through the perspective of SPACE marines rather than present their view as ultimately justified instead it shows just how utterly narrow minded, bigoted, and utterly brainwashed these roided up fanatics encased in plates of cold ceramite actually are. To them, the very concept of *""xenos""* and full bloodied humans actually coexisting peacefully is inconceivable, that their world view is based on the unquestioned notion that species cannot live together AND be roughly equals, at the very least they'd expect one species among them to dominate all others whether it be the 'misguided' but rightfully dominant humans even if they should have killed all the xenos (as if that's just a forgone conclusion to the marines) or the filthy non human creatures enslaving poor humans to be liberated, *there's no in between with them* which is why they found the Diasporex particularly bizarre. They challenged their (the Space Marines) deeply held beliefs and for their crime of existing, in the eyes of the propaganda drenched super soldiers they had to be destroyed even though doing so served no greater strategic purpose but it was all about preserving the dogmatic narrative; *"there can be no peace, this is how it must be with ever non human thing we encounter because if that wasn't the case then who really is humanity's worst enemy, us?"*
@rayhanmustakim7073
Жыл бұрын
The Night Lords omnibus is the exception. Sure it's still about space marine winning but it's the CHAOS space marine, even then most of it are pyrrhic victories. One time with the help of Red Corsair, they managed to score a major win againts a loyalist chapter. Overall highly recommended series to read.
@joedatius
Жыл бұрын
Chaos Space marines are just as bad. GW have been long replacing everything cool and interesting about chaos and just make is space marines with pointier armor. you rarely ever hear about anything that has to do with chaos anymore that isn't just chaos space marines even though there is SUPPOSED to be even less of them then even regular SMs.
@truemisto
2 жыл бұрын
theyre a bit overplayed. super ultra badasses can be cool but if theyre nearly always front and center the shine wears off, they stop being special, which is an unfortunate fate in its own way. i think there is a significant possibility that the primaris may have some kind of achilles heel, probably void dragon of mars related, which would need correcting, threatening the stability of marine chapters and damaging caul's credibility
@blakethesnake6686
2 жыл бұрын
Sci-fi/fantasy setting writers when informed that "big guy with a sword" has been common for over 20 years now and is no longer cool: 😭😭😭
@old_account189
2 жыл бұрын
2:00 You can't hide that Rise of Nations soundtrack from me. Great video, you just got a subscriber :D
@patring303
2 жыл бұрын
As a Tau player I’ve always been confused on the lack of variety of troops since the Tau are supposed to have equal or greater technology than the Imperium. Tech advancement, especially for military tech, is made through lots of trail and error, both in the equipment itself and how it’s used. Like IFVs can trace their need back to trucks and the need for armored vehicles to drive infantry into battle. That caused the development of APCs which worked for a bit before realizing they’re kind of useless if the enemy has any tanks or anti tank weapons. So they slapped an auto cannon and missile system onto a light tank body expanded to be an APC creating a pseudo tank that could protect infantry from almost anything. Throughout this development hundreds of prototypes and production vehicles were thought up and made, with varying success. And that’s just one vehicle type. So how have the Tau only have three basic infantry weapons, one heavy infantry weapon, one drone system that just steals from other systems, and essentially the same mech suit just enlarged or shrunk down over the course of a couple hundred years??? Almost all of the changes that have happened have been to the systems themselves and not the core equipment, which is ok in the short term but eventually things are going to get outdated. So really the only explanation is this and the general Tau hate. Although GW has gotten better with new Tau updates as of late so maybe their getting better?
@poilaaliop
10 ай бұрын
This is why I'll always give Nick Kyme his flowers, because he actually lets the Salamanders in 40k lose and lose hard. His last book that wasn't Horus Heresy came out a decade ago, but BOTH groups of Salamanders the story follows fail at their missions. Yet, some of the characters do succeed in small, personal ways - Captain Agatone gives up on his mission but saves a very interesting human who he ends up taking back home. An adopted ex-Black Dragon and a Techmarine who start off hating each other are brothers through and through by the end. An old and anxious Captain finds a new purpose in life after he's betrayed, swearing revenge on the Sisters of Battle as his destroyed body is dragged off the battlefield. That is what I want more of when it comes to the Space Marines. Hurt the chapters more. Heal the characters more. Also, more imperium vs imperium conflict!
@gr8m887
Жыл бұрын
I just figure that people dislike space Marines for one main reason. It’s the same reason Space Marine fans may not like the Ultramarines. They’re the poster child and face of the franchise that, while cool, are only a fraction of the whole universe. It’s like when you got watch a super hero movie and the one hero you like is slotted as a side character.
@Dodexus
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never played warhammer and only just recently started consuming 40k content. Stumbled across your channel via KZitem recommendations. I’m now several videos deep, mid binge and you’ve just earned a new subscriber.
@JasonM69
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to the song, you didn't need to cut that out.
@screwby6583
2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh man another video. Thanks man,I really see a lot of progress and work with this. And I mean this with the most upmost respect when I say this, because I love your channel and Warhammer. But I also know you as well have a extended love for history like me and love getting to explain those moments. I recommend and I know it can't go wrong to get in touch with Lazerpig. I feel like your content would get a major boost and would produce a very very entertaining video. Thanks again, stay safe mate, we need these amazing videos thanks homie
@Glitch_Online
2 жыл бұрын
12:32 Reflection shows that deep inside you're beautiful
@thom4670
2 жыл бұрын
I recently found out about the Astral Knight chapter of space marines, and really like their lore because their chapter basically sacrificed themselves to achieve their goal of destroying a Necron World Engine, which is a nice change of pace from the lore of other chapters.
@dark7element
Жыл бұрын
The notion of a "beginner army" for a hobby as expensive as 40k is ludicrous. You should carefully pick which army you're going to collect because you're gonna be dropping hundreds of dollars on them at least.
@Uruz2012
2 күн бұрын
It's the same scam as a "starter house". Of course the people who sell stuff want you to buy something inadequate to your future needs so you'll buy again later. When you sell things that last a lifetime, infinite growth is only possible if everyone buys multiple times.
@Blundabus1337
Жыл бұрын
I want to mention, the thing about how space marines have a lot of models, well, yeah, because space marines, like humans, are very diverse. I'm an Ork player, and ork diversity is basically size related, be that their gun or their body. Meanwhile there's a stark difference between the Black Templars and Salamanders.
@krankarvolund7771
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because Tyrades are not diverse at all, it's not like they can evolve in a matter of days to produce a new bioform :p Also, no, there's not a stark contrast between the Black Templars and the Salamanders, the only difference in the model is the paint. And Orks Kultures have as much difference betw them than the superficial differences between the different Space Marine chapters, but they don't get a codex each XD
@Blundabus1337
Жыл бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 Nids don't have diverse personalities.
@krankarvolund7771
Жыл бұрын
@@Blundabus1337 We're playing a miniature wargame, not a novel or an RPG XD
@poilaaliop
10 ай бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 I get it, I like space marines and have a Salamander army myself, but I just wanted to say that RPGs have been part of the 40k experience for ages. I just finished a Dark Heresy 2e game and I'm running Wrath and Glory next week. The fluff matters a great deal for folks like me and my rpg friends. Homebrew lore is great, of course, but it's just not the same as well-designed canon. 🤷♀️
@krankarvolund7771
10 ай бұрын
@@poilaaliop The RPG exists since a long time, but it was never as successful as the wargame. And well designed canon? Warhammer 40k lore is a lot of things but well written, rarely 😅
@Campaigner82
Жыл бұрын
You nailed the reason why I won’t get into W40K. It feels like it’s all about Space Marines at everybody else’s expense. In Age of Sigmar (which I play) the Stormcast Eternals gets treated like every other army. There are no favorites there.
@havel4385
2 жыл бұрын
after watching this i now badly want a novel series for the war in heaven.
Personally I just don't find the Space Marines very interesting for the most part, particularly for the reasons you mentioned but also because they're just, kind of limited? Like, they're all just kind of different flavors of templars in space IMO.
@bengonzalez5215
Жыл бұрын
I remember in the ancient times when a space marine showed up it was a big deal, like they were these legendary warriors and had a serious impact anywhere they showed up. Now they are killed off faster than conscripts because oops all primarchs
@mock2046
2 жыл бұрын
I play iron warriors and I’d love some stories where marines aren’t yelling about the their daddy issues.
@Theredsunrising
2 жыл бұрын
I think a great example of what you're talking about was War Zone Fenris, the SW got absolutely smashed by Magnus. Loads of dead marines, planets destroyed oh and now they're back at full strength thanks to Cawl.
@Orinslayer
2 жыл бұрын
Kroot players really do be vibing alone in the sandbox.
@macrussell78
2 жыл бұрын
I'm subscribing in hopes you make a rant video on the Space wolves.
@krampusthestoryteller1416
Жыл бұрын
Part of why I'm a fan of AoS is bc AoS handles this stuff a lot better. For one, the SCE actually lose. There's a story where they lose to the Gloomspite Gitz of all things. I can go on but that's a plus right there.
@maxdickings6874
2 жыл бұрын
Better watch it before you break it again
@Defeateddragon
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Scritscratch
2 жыл бұрын
The halo music in the background really brought up some nostalgia. Then terria. Then FTL. You have a good taste in games.
@alphanoodle1877
2 жыл бұрын
any time I try to talk about warhammer or speak about certain faction space marine fanboys just go "LMAO SPACE MARINES KILL INSTANTLY"
@Darek_B52
2 жыл бұрын
Bring up the Lamenters...that's a cursed batch.
@alphanoodle1877
2 жыл бұрын
@@Darek_B52 *ahem* 9:49
@chuckcharlez
2 жыл бұрын
As a relatively new warhammer 40k fan, (I don't play the game), I started painting Crimson Fists. I love how the lore gave them odds that weren't in their favour. It's always cool when you have heroic marines instead of "waaagh brother there's a other heretic!!". Although I wanna get into eldars and stuff, I'm still a fan of the crimson fists. However, I get what you mean as in lore the space marines are always winning. They should lose more
@WingsaberE3
2 жыл бұрын
This is why I like admech, while a lot of space marine victories a often pyrrhic at best, very short term, admech focus on long term victories like finding STCs and stuff.
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
Eh, even with that it honestly feels like it doesn't lead anywhere interesting. Like sure they collect these ancient bits of technology or schematics but how often are these used for anything actually cool and fucking awesome?
@rileyernst9086
8 ай бұрын
I really like the mechanicus books by Graham McNeil, (I think it was?) You have a mechanicus exploratory fleet backed up by a guard regiment and a black templar crusade. Every faction gets their lime light. My favorite part is that in literally the middle of nowhere the bondsmen(so they are meant to be free men, not serfs) of the mechanicus crew cease work. The mechanicus really don't know how to handle it, it's a fault in their machine they have not calculated for, and they cannot simply replace the faulty parts because they are in deep space. The Black templar are like: we need to find and kill the organisers, whilst the Guard Colonel is just like: 'Everyone calm the hell down. They are not traitors, they have not taken up arms, how about I go and have a chat with them see if we can't resolve this like grown ups.'
@rileyernst9086
8 ай бұрын
One of the main themes is humanity, and this is where the guard and the bondsmen of the ship really shine. A spacemarine is a hammer, everything can be solved by hitting, a mechanicus sees everything as a machine. There is also a magos who decided to see what the whole fuss around 'biological reproduction' was about and the product of his experimentation; his grown daughter who has only recently become a techpriestess who is largely unaugmented and as the story goes along he becomes quite protective of her; he does not want her to become heavily augmented, he does not want her to lose her humanity.
@erds4113
2 жыл бұрын
People hate the Space Marines cus they're overdone, imo it's that simple. Same reason people don't like any popular thing, cus the thing they like doesn't get as much praise as they think it deserves in comparisson. Not to say it's invalid in this case, cus, yeah, a lot of shit gets neglected so that the marine-of-the-week can get shoved into the spotlight, but that's why people have a bone to pick as far as I see it. You want people to hate them less, don't constantly shove them in front of everything else, it's a managerial and marketing issue more than anything else.
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
Not so much just that but it's clear that from a lore perspective the space marines are almost always presented as either invincible badases that can crush anything even when facing enemies that are supposed to be scary, awesome badasses themselves or even when they lose heavily in terms of brothers slain they STILL win in the end and often such losses don't have lasting consequences.
@henryviiifake8244
2 жыл бұрын
It's not because they're popular, it's because there are 7 main species/factions and GW focus on Space Marines almost to the exclusion of everything else.
@ImperatorZor
2 жыл бұрын
Having the anvil fall on the Black Templars would be satisfying.
@chappy4756
2 жыл бұрын
The kicking that the Crimson Fists took in lore years ago was one of the best things GW did. Loved it, not cause the pretty boys took one, but cause it showed they could be outfought and lose.
@The_Deliverer
Жыл бұрын
I know i kinda late to comment but i think what makes the space marines feels kinda dry is standardizing the primaris. I kinda liked firstborn because they have soo much flavour and story than primaris
@extaslash7077
2 жыл бұрын
As resident thousand sons enjoyer I highly approve this space wolves related message.
@agentmaine4746
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons I like chaos space marines. While on one hand, they never really get any good victories, (the whole, we lose all the time, but our victory is inevitable blah blah blah), this also means they have a fair bit of struggle, and other factions are actually a threat to them. When you read a chaos book, there's no guarantee that they're going to win, or even make it out alive. In the Night Lord trilogy, the warband is entirely destitute, and is forced to run from virtually every fight where they don't possess overwhelming force, because they have no empire or allies to rely on to bail them out. When they fight the Eldar in the end, the Eldar are actually allowed to be a serious threat. In Shroud of Night or Sons of the Hydra, the Alpha Legion are slowly whittled down while forced to run form their problems or think creatively to win against their foes. Even when they don't need to just get out of dodge because they lose so much, they often end up being each other's biggest enemy, and come closest to losing because of the people they're working with (kind of like some of the early Gaunt's Ghosts books if memory serves). This doesn't even happen to novel exclusive chumps, in Fabius Motherfucking Bile's series, by the end of it most everyone he knows is dead, he's in hiding and his life's work is destroyed or entirely out of reach. Shit goes wrong for them. They struggle. Need to be creative. Lose, quite often actually, and even die. That last bit is actually a bit of an issue all things considered, because lots of the characters that get killed in these are ones that break the mold, or add complexity to their legions (the world eaters from Talon of Horus who seem almost normal despite the nails in their head, or the one from the Bile books who learned how to nullify their effect and just wanted to garden, almost all the Night Lords from their series, etc). It's almost like the dudes who break the established norm for how specific chaos marine groups are supposed to act tend to get sentenced to death for it. Those are the characters that make the whole thing fun and add depth.
@SirEggo2412
Жыл бұрын
Chaos marines need more likable characters all of the likable ones like talos or Argel Die or loose their character like Kharn
@wowapicoalclips770
Жыл бұрын
I think we found Magnus 13:01
@CocoHutzpah
Жыл бұрын
Envy. The Imperial Guard is supposed to be the largest force in the Imperium and infinitely diverse in it's constitution. Then the Perry brothers left and the Guard has returned to generic sci-fi soldiers.
@watch50er
2 жыл бұрын
“Why most people are disgusted by space marines” “And what can be done about that” Also I’m reminded of the time the blood Angel chapter got killed down to the last 50 brothers when they tried looting a space hulk and pissed off the tens of thousands of gene stealers in it. Not sure if it counts but it took 500 years (if I recall correctly) for them to rebuild and do it again much much more successfully. Also I’m not sure if the ultra marines’s devastation in the first tyrannic war counts either…. I’m getting the impression of seeing the marines loose and loose HARD when they shouldn’t have and for up the scar to stick with them…
@MrCoolinschool
Жыл бұрын
You’re missing the obvious reason GW isn’t doing this: it’s because if they do put out more models/lore for the other factions then the fans will start to realize that the space marines are objectively the worst faction in the setting and we can’t have that because humanity always has to be the good guys even when they’re shown to be objectively miserable and evil
@troutwarrior6735
Жыл бұрын
The reason I love space marines is that they are pretty evil 😂
@apolloknight9521
2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy you pointed out most of the problems when it comes to Space Marines, because of how popular they are and how much exposure they got from fans or being spoiled all too often I got sick of the Imperium because the Space Marines. Like you said, it would be a breath of fresh air to see them lose instead of being looked at as these OP Super Soldiers that never loses.
@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930
Жыл бұрын
This is really only tangential, but I think another way to help the discrepancy is to give other factions more meaningful codex divisions. Think about it, it wasn’t long ago when the marines had like 7 whole codexes just devoted to them. - generic space marines - blood angels - dark angels - space wolves - dark templar - death watch - grey knights and that’s not even including the supplements. To clarify, I’m not against the marines having this, but why don’t others get the same love? Why is there still no dino riding exodite codex for the aeldari, or a long deserved expansion of the harlequins? Why isn’t there a whole line of auxiliaries for the tau with their own codex? Hell even a grot/hobgrot army for the greenskins or a fleshed out (pun intended) flayed one army for the necrons would be really damn cool, and add a ton of diversity to their lineups. LoV are new, but a rival chaos army in the form of Hashut worshipping chaos kin would go a long way in establishing them and adding to chaos. Speaking of chaos, why don’t the daemons ever get love? Why is there only one chaos daemons codex, instead of several dedicated to their singular gods, with massive new additions to their lineups? I know I’m going hog wild and all, but if the same design philosophy applied to the marines was taken to xenos and daemons, I think it would go a long way to adding a ton of diversity to the game.
@somedudewithsomememes2035
2 жыл бұрын
we have you surrounded! Come see our cool space marines! *GLORY TO CHAOS* Reloading sound *GLORY TO CHAOS*
@elijahaitaok8624
11 ай бұрын
I think what's needed is writers that understands physics and logistics, and actually give proper stats to the variety of units in this series. My biggest gripe about the marines they're just barely lesser than Spartan IIs yet most people lose any sense of scale, move goalposts, and lie to themselves and others just to say the marines win most of the time. The biggest one being the bolter rounds are .75 caliber yet are as big as energy drink cans and have an armour piercing tip that has the same characteristics as diamond even though diamond makes for shit projectiles let alone armour piercing ones, or that they move at 60k/h yet the Javelin Missile System has been around since the 90s and have proven to be highly effective, and those are just a small arms variant of anti-armour weapons, like shet man our modern military can probably deal with the marines with dumbfire rocket launchers a kilometer away, we have the basic math to pull it off. What I'm getting at is WH40k used to be the hot shit king of the hill, now all it takes is a basic understanding of physics and logistics to give the series a mighty need of copium, just give it a proper facelift and then it can rightfully be the king hot shit again.
@cccaaawww8685
2 жыл бұрын
I find them the equivalent of goku but for board games.They are constantly getting more and more powerful never lose and people that play them constantly weeb and obsess over them remarking “how genius” “how strong” and go “bet they can’t beat insert chapter.
@burialgoods
2 жыл бұрын
Space marines on hard mode: Firstborn only lists.
@jaegerbomb269
2 ай бұрын
I do agree that Xenos and Chaos factions do need more attention with models. I wouldn't complain if Xenos got more novels following them around. Yet, I love Space Marines without apology or remorse. I love bolter-porn, I love the refreshed first born Horus Heresy models, and Primaris Marines. Screw the haters!
@parkwaydrivern5089
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m kinda glad there aren’t many other Horus Heresy sized series, that thing is a monster enough that is bigger than what most people read in a lifetime
@navilluscire2567
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest if the other factions ever got their epic backstories explored they wouldn't even need to be half a fleshed out as the Horus Heresy in order to be awesome!
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