It's crazy how both Persona 5 and Danganronpa have such a hard time with anime adaptations considering that they were literally created to appeal to fans of that medium.
@thomasffrench3639
Жыл бұрын
It’s like the Uncharted movie
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 was made by a sub-studio of A-1 and A-1 did P4GA and Ace Attorney (as well as Fate/Apocrypha and SAO but the source material for those was garbage anyway)
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@mysmallnoman
Жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 it wasn't garbage lol
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
@@mysmallnoman Good animation is all A-1 has going for them, every other aspect of those shows is garbage.
@hootsoot1036
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna bring up that the Persona 4 anime is genuinely one of the funniest pieces of media I've ever watched and I'd highly recommend that to y'all!
@nhlcbj
Жыл бұрын
I just beat P3P and started watching the 4 anime movies. While it’s subs only so far they’re pretty good
@dailydoseofvitaminc6565
Жыл бұрын
People only really talk about the comedy, but P4 anime is genuinely a much better story than the game. Pretty much every major emotional moment, especially the scene with Namatame in the hospital and the Adachi fight, is dramatically improved by having Yu be a real character
@CosmicIsDead
Жыл бұрын
the tropes are so extreme dispite me watching one piece i found it unfunny as hell
@joshuakolton9955
Жыл бұрын
Wish I would’ve recorded that.
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuakolton9955 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@jasoninkurai5463
Жыл бұрын
If you want to know how most people in the fanbase treat the adaptations, P4A is really enjoyed P5A is just as you said The Persona 3 films elevates the main story and themes of the original game. They realized the issues the P5A didn't and really focused on the main team, the story and it's themes, and the importance of Tarturus, Strega, and Shadows as obstacles.
@sleepier9433
Жыл бұрын
P4A is extremely quotable
@ddjsoyenby
Жыл бұрын
agreed i really loved the persona 3 films and vanilla 4.
@SilvarusLupus
Жыл бұрын
I adore the P4 anime, I have the DVDs and every episode has a Japanese cast commentary. Fuck the Golden anime though, except for the Adachi episode that one was good. Also the Christmas episode, because Naoto was hilarious.
@jasoninkurai5463
Жыл бұрын
@Illumix I should clarify Where P4A and P3M did right, P5A went wrong. P5A learned the wrong lessons from what the other adaptations did right.
@Silent_Mochi
Жыл бұрын
While I haven't seen much of p3 movies (trying to finish the game first) The main reason the P4A anime is amazing because it feels like a love letter and a somewhat extention to the original persona 4 game While it is the same plot as P4, it adapts everything really well to the point where some scenes in the anime I'd argue is better than how it is portrayed in the game (Nanako and Dojimas relationship, the car chase, Revealing of the killer, the choice in December) These scenes take advantage of the fact this is an anime adaptation and changes them up to either make it flow better or expand on our characters It's also just really really funny
@misterzygarde6431
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the dub is the one saving grace of Persona 5 the Animation. Honestly they should’ve made it a two season affair as to give them more time.
@WSendam
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 was really funny 😅 but I don’t know if anybody really agrees with me also the P5 dub didn’t really save it for me personally
@rensretry
Жыл бұрын
The voice actors did such a good job on it (special props to Max Mittlemen, Ryuji’s voice actor and the rest of the cast) it’s just such a shame that the anime itself was pretty shitty since the voice actors absolutely killed it
@ChubuPeng
Жыл бұрын
@@WSendam i loved p4 anime
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@ChubuPeng Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@ChubuPeng
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961 ?
@hhfggvogtthehy6451
Жыл бұрын
I feel like most video games adaptions fail because it is VERY hard to make an 16 hour long story into a 22 minute per episode series and have it make basic sense.
@ddjsoyenby
Жыл бұрын
yup one of the few that did it right was tlou.
@xolotltolox7626
Жыл бұрын
really depends on the length of the series, UBW was quite successful with adapting the 15-20 hour route into a 2-cour series. Whereas the choice of turning the longest route Heaven's Feel into a movie trilogy is questionable, to say the least
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@xolotltolox7626 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@ExpertTerminal
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 did that very well, but it's a PS2 game that had less "content" than P5 so they had a lot of creative liberties
@pn2294
Жыл бұрын
If the show had 52 episodes, it would’ve been more plausible.
@UltraPaperGamer
Жыл бұрын
The Persona 4 Anime, the original game, Is actually the perfect adaptation from Videogame to Anime because it adds more context and explores new scenarios not seeing in the game, on top of the protagonist, Yu Narukami having the best dialogue in the entire cast. It also explores episodes with interesting dynamics like "What if the group split out making the protagonist feel absolutly depressed" or "What do other characthers think of the protagonist WHEN HE'S DOING ALL THE SIDEQUEST AT THE SAME TIME" That shit is AMAZING, No other Persona adaptation does this and is really sad, because P4 Animation is legit one of the best ways to expirience Persona 4, something that no other adaptation of the franchise has done since then.
@ShadowOfMassDestruction
Жыл бұрын
Frick now I've GOTTA watch it
@ddjsoyenby
Жыл бұрын
exactly.
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
Aside from the first part of the P3 movie, also the only one done by Anime International Company (who also did Tenchi Muyo (also Tokimeki Memorial Only Love based on the old Tokimeki Memorial dating sim series but I have no clue if it's any good)). P4GA and P5A are A-1's fault.
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@crazyjay8007
Жыл бұрын
Yes I was just about to comment this what they did there was special no cap 🧢
@Lucatrocity
Жыл бұрын
Whats funny is that everything you described that would fix the P5 anime actually DOES happen in the P4 Anime Yu is an actual character, the pacing is pretty good, and there are actual changes compared to the game story to where I’d argue its a much more enjoyable way to experience that story
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast
Жыл бұрын
Basically. To an extent, same with the P3 movies (though, it had a slower pacing for the purposes of the buildup and most of the confidants are reduced to cameos/background characters).
@sdbzfan1
Жыл бұрын
I love the way summoning new personas work in P4, whatever s-link Narukami is working on at the moment a persona of that arcana shows up in the same or following episode Saving Nanako with Koryu and Sraosha only works because the past 2 episodes were about Dojima and Nanako which also works because in game around the time you get Naoto is when you should be finishing Dojima and Nanako's S-Links
@ShadowOfMassDestruction
Жыл бұрын
@@sdbzfan1 I've gotta watch it then
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@tenacity3627
Жыл бұрын
@@sdbzfan1 iirc it's similar in P3M. After every Arcana boss is defeated, Makoto is able to use a Persona of that Arcana later on. Example: He was able to use Jack Frost (Magician Arcana) during the fight against Priestess after defeating Magician.
@ihavenohotcocoa6101
Жыл бұрын
The Ace Attorney anime actually did start leaning away from the main plot in season 2! A mixture of all the flashback episodes and the completely original case they created help it feel more like it's own thing, and those small changes really made it shine in my eyes. (Yes, the flashback episodes are technically filler, but I think they offer so much to the world and characters that it doesn't really matter) (i am an Ace Attorney fan btw, the games are easily in my top ten)
@FelisImpurrator
Жыл бұрын
*start leaning, I think that should be.
@ihavenohotcocoa6101
Жыл бұрын
@@FelisImpurrator oh, yup! thank you
@mupty
8 ай бұрын
This anime was a guilty pleasure for me in the English dub. Would love them to adapt the other games.
@mikomakowski7907
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 is honestly really good. It has similar pacing issues at some moments *cough teddie cough* but you’ll almost never notice it due to how hilarious it is. They gave Yu such a chad character, and the summer episode, where yu went through like, 5 separate social links at once, is done so perfectly due to it being mostly from nanako’s perspective before we see the actual context. Overall, I’d say it was a wonderful adaptation to watch, showing off the funny quirks of each character, while eating a wonderful Aiya rainy day beef bowl
@2maka5u
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was crazy for loving the summer episodes so much when I recently saw it for the first time, def a couple of my favs (aside from the true finale and the Dojima/Nanako episode). I think it worked better because the overall story was less dense/less moving parts compared to p5, and allowed space for some fun “filler” episodes to cover social link stuff
@Mangakamen
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 the animation (not golden) is actually considered a good adaptation.
@luigiboi4244
Жыл бұрын
I realized that everyone has apparently forgotten that there is a Netflix original CASTLEVANIA ANIME. AND IT'S AWESOME.
@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053
Жыл бұрын
Mostly because that one is Western and thus not anime
@falconeshield
Жыл бұрын
@@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053 Avatar and Korra were fine too, anime inspired cartoons are fine
@seanibarra-loredo7290
Жыл бұрын
@@falconeshieldWell, Avatar is.
@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053
Жыл бұрын
@@falconeshield I know, and I never said that, I just said that they aren't anime and thus have no reason to be mentioned in a video about anime adaptations
@Santoryu90
Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda sad since the P3 movies and the P4 anime were much more well regarded. I guess they couldn’t replicate that with P5. Also, I thought the Ace Attorney anime was fine.
@nahte123456
Жыл бұрын
In fairness P3 is a much more basic story in general. I think it's the BEST story, but best doesn't mean complex. P3 focuses on the main team and fighting Shadows, along with overcoming apathy and depression. Heavy stuff but not that complex. Movie 1 starts with the MC literally asking why you'd be afraid of dying, and end of the movies is the whole team fighting desperately to survive and save people. That's really not hard to translate. P4 is more impressive to me honestly. I don't like P4 as much as P3, like at all just to be clear. But the fact that it was able to take a much wider story of characters interactions and mysteries and other worlds, and make it work is really impressive.
@Santoryu90
Жыл бұрын
@@nahte123456 Whichever game you personally thought had the best story, I’d say Persona 4 was the one that had the most basic and “normal” story compared to the other games.
@nahte123456
Жыл бұрын
@@Santoryu90 except it's a mystery. Mysteries need certain beats to work, foreshadowing and red herrings and investigations. Which by its nature, even if I think the mystery is just not well done, requires more.
@Santoryu90
Жыл бұрын
@@nahte123456 Don’t really see where you’re coming from with some of that, especially since the game did have foreshadowing and red herrings but each their own. I like both games, but whichever one you prefer in terms of story Persona 3 was a bit more complex and dealt with darker and mature themes, while Persona 4 is more light-hearted and deals with softer and lighter themes by comparison.
@nahte123456
Жыл бұрын
@@Santoryu90 ? Because I'm talking about the adaption process as was made clear in the first comment, not the games. Like, I think you mixed my comment up with something else, I haven't talked about how the games tell the stories at all here.
@lincolnbeckett8791
Жыл бұрын
Just like all the comments are already saying, the P4 anime is great. But I also think the P3 movie series is also great and definitely deserves a watch too!
@WillTheGreatest
Жыл бұрын
Wish that got a dub
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast
Жыл бұрын
Seconded on both.
@Burns_RED
Жыл бұрын
What did they do differently for that one?
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
@@Burns_RED It wasn't made by A-1 (CloverWorks is a sub-studio)
@Burns_RED
Жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 That no doubt helps
@darmitan1339
Жыл бұрын
One this that the games do is that, even if you can still make the protagonist a reflection of yourself, they still have their own personalities in some way. Maya (Persona 2 Eternal Punishment protag) and Tatsuya (Persona 2 Innocent Sin protag) both protagonist at some point, but they not only have a game where you can see their personalities, but their dialogue options leave clear that maya is a really positive and old sister type of character, and tatsuya is reserve, calm, and with clear passions (Motorcycle boy). Makoto (Persona 3 protag) is clearly represent as an emo and introvert in both games and anime, and Narukami (Persona 4 protag) is represent in the anime is so iconic that some scenes in the anime are almost or even more iconic that the game counterparts just because narukami alone (Kings game best example). That’s why Akira (or ren) is so disappointing in the anime, because they already know who to give some personality to previous protags without losing the immersive yourself part.
@AlecMeyer94
Жыл бұрын
Ace Attorney, Bayonetta, and Devil May Cry were great video game adaptations as a anime.
@Ramsey276one
Жыл бұрын
Agreed Not because I like the games XD
@limewater4074
11 ай бұрын
You kidding? The Devil May Cry anime was painfully mediocre, I hope the Netflix adaptation is better.
@dsmara-y8f
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 the Animation is pretty good but its probably best if you've played the game already, since one of its best parts is the personality it gave the silent protag. So good they folded in that personality into all the spin off games. It's not a replacement for the story but a good companion piece and adds to p4 moving foward.
@1313hman
Жыл бұрын
Strange thing about this is that while Joker's thoughts and actions are determined by the players, his general body language, his 'memorable' dialogue options (just the fact that Joker has the potential to say certain things says a lot about him), and the main story + possible endings gives more than enough to build a cohesive character (conceptual spoilers for one of the game's possible endings used as a point of discussion if you expand the comment, though definitely not anything that would spoil the entire game, just as a heads up). If I were to say "Joker is a good person, but loves to show off and act smug and often take risks that can put himself or others in danger." I'm pretty sure most people would get behind me, and while that alone isn't exactly a unique character it is enough to work with and make a perfectly serviceable main character that you can build on. If you want some extra drama you could even sprinkle in some extra entitlement and ego growth over the story for him to struggle with (as one of the possible endings involves him pretty much selling everyone out to stay in the spotlight as a hero), and I'm sure that most people would agree to that as well.
@sarafontanini7051
Жыл бұрын
hell he's the only persona protag with voiced lines that AREN"T "persona!" even if they're still few and far between.
@Bag2218
Жыл бұрын
The main problem always comes down to length. Persona 5 and Danganronpa both should have been *at least* two season long stories. And even that might not be enough, depending on how long said seasons are. But, unfortunately, I don't think being faithful (or even good) adaptations were the priority with these projects. They're there to sell more merchandise to fans and drum up interest in the games to people who hadn't experienced them before. And...it kinda worked. I never would have even known about the Danganronpa games if I hadn't watched the anime first. So...in that sense, I guess it's worth it. But....man I still wish these adaptations had more care put into them. They really could have been nice alternatives for people who wanted to experience the stories but didn't want to play 100+ hour long RPGs and visual novels in order to do so. I have so many friends that I know would love Persona and Danganronpa, but I also know that the only good way to experience those characters and stories is through a medium that they wouldn't particularly care for.
@SnuSnuDungeon
Жыл бұрын
This makes me wish they would give the Ys series another go at an anime adaptation. The only one we got was from 1989 to 1991 and only covered the first games
@calebkimmings3905
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the p4 animation is damn good because they ignore a lot of the mechanics as there is no flair to them, so there is no time spent on them that is used instead for plot and character moments
@sdbzfan1
Жыл бұрын
The P4 anime was great, Infact it made one of the most impactful moments in the game way better(Hospital scene) I wonder why P5 felt so forced to be the way it was, most people expected something similar to the Daybreakers OVA and honestly, if the anime felt more like that or even some of the more down to earth stuff like Kawakami trying on swimsuits in her hotel before Haru walks in, it would have been at the very least memorable
@enzokalani
Жыл бұрын
Ironically I do think Joker does have some clear personality of his own in the game that you can see most of the time, and it's really nice, but then they remove those nicer notes and hints in the show.
@Weskalia
Жыл бұрын
*Read title* Gungrave has entered the chat
@staticshock7401
Жыл бұрын
True the Gungrave anime is a masterpiece. Consider the source materials, I didn't expect much but after finishing the anime, boy was I wrong.
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@staticshock7401 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@ftrwrwbg
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 anime is great. Also the Despair half of End of Hope’s Peak is pretty good.
@Ramsey276one
Жыл бұрын
Ah The OTHER 3 of Danganronpa...
@ahmadmanga
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Side:Despair but it suffers the same problem that a lot of these anime face. It tried to tell too much in a little time... I also wished that the villain manipulated each person differently not give all of them despair at the same time. I also enjoyed Side:Hope and I'm glad for that to be the finale for Danganronpa 2.
@cameussmith
Жыл бұрын
It's not, it's really not.
@xSweetKyandi
Жыл бұрын
General consensus on the Persona Anime Adaptations: P3 Movies: Decent to Really good. Depends on if you liked certain changes, and your tolerance for the pacing due to a 4 Movie limit. >> Example; Myself and many others are not the biggest fan of the characterization of the MC, as I feel like they went a bit "to hard" in one aspect you could read of his character. Plus it doesn't even remotely match any other adaptation of MC's personality in other P3 media (Manga/Audio Drama's/PQ1&2/Stage Play/or even P3D despite "having the same name").-- However many people also love this ver. of the P3MC. However, I...like many people, love the additions of scenes for main cast characters that lacked screen time in game. Or alternate versions of scenes to better suit a movie format. Animation is stellar, and OST is always good. ------------------ P4 The Animation: Very well liked. Has it's issues, but they keep the charm from the game & main cast & expand on it full throttle. So much so that most people don't even mind the flaws. LMAO P4 Golden The Animation: Overall disliked like P5's adaptation. If I recall there are specific episodes that aren't bad. However the overall quality & writing is much worse than P4A. ------------------ P5 The Animation: Pretty much universally hated outside of the Music & the Akechi specific Specials/OVA's (as they came out before P5 Royal), for a lot of the same reasons you listed here. Though tbh Joker in P5/P5R arguably has more personality in-game than the anime (kinda feels like they just gave him all the default "neutral" game answers as his "personality"). LMAO
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
4:13 The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach says hi. It may not be on the same level as the new movie (I mean it WAS on a direct-to-video budget) but still a far more faithful adptation, even if it was a loose one.
@SapphireCarbuncle009
Ай бұрын
Something I'm noticing with your description of how mundane Joker's portrayal is reminds me of how P4A handled a lot of the gameplay-centric aspects in a way that fits the character. The MC there will work on stuff like origami cranes, personal reading, or the Beef Bowl Challenge as other characters are carrying the main exposition to show how he's multitasking like any good Persona player does. Imagine how much better the scenes of the Thieves planning or puzzle solving would be if Joker is shown to be fiddling with lockpick crafting, or practicing some of his flourishes, or summoning a Persona he recently recruited and checking on them. Small touches to show his personality where you can
@FedoraKirb
Жыл бұрын
Professor Layton and the Eternal Diva and Kat’s Mystery Solving Files were the one-two punch that got me to try out the Layton games. Currently making my way through Diabolical Box after beating Curious Village, and I’m really enjoying it. I think what makes Eternal Diva work is that it’s basically a Layton game, with puzzles baked into the world while solving a mystery, but it tells it’s own original, canon story, with some minor structure changes to have it better fit the movie medium. But the format of the games makes it fit for adaptation since you can actually still participate in the puzzles and mystery anyway due to the Visual Novel-esque style of the games. As for Kat’s Mystery Solving Files, it’s a more direct adaptation of the 12 cases Millionaires’ Conspiracy while also having new cases and an original story arc as well. The game is already more episodic in nature compared to the Professor’s games, and once again the viewer is given a chance to participate in the mystery and puzzles, preserving some of the interactivity without making the adaptation a slave to it.
@StrawberryShorty
Жыл бұрын
I did some videos on the Kat series that I plan to continue, but it's early episodes are definitely not winning me over.
@RenovatedLee
Жыл бұрын
Arcane is also a great example of adapting a universe rather than a specific game's story, especially when League is focused entirely on gameplay.
@ArtTheGaleWind
Жыл бұрын
bro the persona 4 anime and the person 3 quadrilogy are genuinely very praised, Persona 5 the animation is really the only outliar somehow
@Screedawg77
Жыл бұрын
One adaptation I really like is Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation. The showrunners clearly understood the stories, characters, world and appeal of the two canon games at the time, MK II and Victory, and told their own original version of events that naturally brough about similar conflicts and moments from the games. While one scene in the anime might be shot for shot from the game, the before and after of the scene are completely different while still feeling natural.
@thedragonwithaknife
Жыл бұрын
I will admit that I did know both Joker's manga and anime names but not because I ever read the manga or watched past episode 2(I think) of the anime. It's because of the amount of fanfic I read at the height of my Persona 5 obsession which of course involved Joker and would use one of those two names in the fics and I read so many that the names got stuck in the back of my head
@silverhairedwanderer9806
Жыл бұрын
I feel like one of the exceptions that breaks this rule is steins;gate a 40 hour video game. The anime adapted pretty faithfully in retelling the story in 24 episodes
@Cearns9219
Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment on the P5 Anime. I feel like it was so laser focused on getting through the story that it misses out on what makes Persona interesting. I was especially annoyed that it mentions the confidants and yet doesn't explore them aside from their beginnings. Overall, if you want to experience Persona 5, play Royal. However, I would highly recommend watching the Persona 4 Anime. It does a much better job telling the story and developing the characters and even takes break during the plot to focus on Social Links. Plus, Yu Narukami is much more developed in the anime than Ren was in his. That being said, I disagree with you on Ace Attorney being a poor adaptation. I watched it from beginning to end and I think it tackles each of the cases from the trilogy fairly accurately, including character dynamics, interactions, and story developments. It even has a few episodes that focus on entirely new content that gives further context into certain relationships and even an entirely original case from scratch. That's just me though, if you weren't a fan, I respect that.
@griefingg0lem685
Жыл бұрын
There is a reason Persona 4's anime spawned the meme "Chad Narukami"
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
5:48 P4tA was well-received but not P4GA (which had a completely different studio, the infamous A-1 Pictures who also did Ace Attorney and CloverWorks, who did P5A was A-1 Kōenji Studio) Not sure about the P3 movies or Trinity Soul though.
@mattwo7
Жыл бұрын
13:45 Aside from DR, all of those anime were made by some of the worst studios, A-1 (who also did P4GA, SAO and Fate/Apocrypha (though SAO and Fate/Apoc were garbage to begin with, there's a reason why UBW memes were so ubiquitous contrast it)), Gonzo (who also made Transformers Galaxy Force/Cybertron and the PSO2 -The Animation- Episode Oracle (which is also the name of the game's story's first three parts)) and P5A was made by a sub-studio of A-1 (DR was literally Lerche's second anime and they're the same studio who also did the DR3 End of Hope's Peak anime so you'd think that clearly they never improved but this was actually the same studio that did the Assassination Classroom anime meaning they clearly could have done better). Edgerunners was good because it was made by Trigger, one of the best studios.
@theghostcreator776
Жыл бұрын
The TWEWY anime although absolutely bleh it was apparently super popular in Japan which definitely helped the brand as a whole
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
Жыл бұрын
All this talk about the Persona 3, 4, and 5 anime adaptations, yet I've never seen nearly as many people bring up or discuss Devil Survivor 2 The Animation First off: adapting solely the SEQUEL to Devil Survivor - let alone the less likable of the two in terms of plot/character - into an anime? Immediately doesn't sit right with me. But then there's the obstacle of weaving an SRPG with various alternate routes into a linear storyline… I'll leave the rest up to you, there's a bit more to discuss with DeSu2A beyond what I brought up, but in all honesty, I just wanna bring up this video game adaptation for the sake of repping what I believe is one of, if not, the most based JRPG duology out of the entire RPG market, aside from the Digital Devil Saga and Devil Summoner Raidou Kuzunoha duologies on PS2 (yes I am very blatantly shilling DDS, DeSum, and DeSur for you to at least consider playing on the PS2/3 and DS/3DS respectively. Please.)
@Windermed
Жыл бұрын
I think DeSu 2 as a game was great (im a big fan of the cast as Joe, Jungo and Yamato are my favorites but with DeSu 1 i pretty much liked everyone in the cast as it did a good job with the story, characters and atmosphere) but i recently watched the first episode of the anime adaptation and.. i kinda am mixed on it. i think it mostly has to do with the fact that i'm used to the Record Breaker VAs but none of the english VAs fit AT ALL with any of the characters and the dub is seriously reminding me of P2: EP's english dub from the 90s (which wasn't great) but dub aside the first episode legitametly rushed it in a way that was pretty unsatisfying and not even 10-15 minutes in and they're already at the first septentrione and they haven't even met Joe unlike in the first game if i remember correctly)
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
Жыл бұрын
@@Windermed Now the dub’s quality is questionable? That's news to me criticism-wise
@Deoxys_Used_Mimic
Жыл бұрын
P4 the Animation is hilarious.
@AmartharDrakestone
9 ай бұрын
They already did an adaptation of Persona that did what Edgerunners did. It was called Persona: Trinity Soul and was a spin-off to Persona 3, set in the same world but 10 years later, with a completely different cast of characters in a different city.
@Barakon
Жыл бұрын
Persona is one long fucking series of games, I don’t think I’d ever have the patience to get through any of them.
@fireboltpt
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 and 3's anime series and movies respectively are genuinely great, as unlike 5, they do alternate from the original game in several aspects. With P4 developing Yu (the protagonist) and being genuinely really funny. As well as adapting shadow fights pretty well for the most part. Persona 3 does a great job developing the protagonist, arguably better than P4A, and that single fact changes a lot of the emotional impact with certain already powerful scenes.
@fireboltpt
Жыл бұрын
I'd also argue Joker was still better in the games, as the game does give him some really good moments in the story and his dialogue options do well in giving you a decent idea what he's like.
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@fireboltpt Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@Eternalwarpuppy
10 ай бұрын
One adaptation that I really loved was Valkyria Chronicles. While the anime generally followed the same main story as the game did, instead of trying to cram everything from the game into 26 episodes, it chose to heavily focus on a character that didn't have much of a role in the game and allow him a chance to get developed better. Additionally, since the combat aspects of the game are told through gameplay that can't really be replicated in an anime format, the anime chose to dive deeper into the romance aspects of the story that the game only briefly mentioned.
@cherubin7th
9 ай бұрын
Wonderful how different video games and movies are.
@Mutantbubbaboy
Жыл бұрын
I do highly recommend the P3 and P4 animes, they do an excellent job converting the source material. They also do a really good job giving the protagonists interesting character arcs, especially P3.
@jemma927
Жыл бұрын
I've always found that if a game is very long with interconnected narratives and character, with an anime with less that 25 episodes I get concerned for the content and the whole adaptation. Danganronpa being a big example for me and I'd recommend NezumiVA's video on the anime adaptation as she goes into its history and how it failed and possible reasons. She's also did a retrospective for the series as a whole, highly recommend that also!!
@duskyer
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 anime is really good. You can think of Persona 4: The Golden Animation as showing off New Game Plus. The latter shouldn't be watched unless you have experienced the game in that fashion or watched the first anime. Dominating the game on a new run and picking all the funny dialogue choices.
@Gatekid3
Жыл бұрын
persona 5 the daybreakers is the perfect example of what this show needed to be. Even without using the all out attack, arguably the best visual aspect you could use in an adaptation, they captured the feel of the combat through a stylized baton pass. The ova gets around the plot by focusing on momentos quests. The only problem with trying to make a show about momentos stuff is you'd have to ignore the main plot to avoid having to explain the larger plot, but i think you could just have a show take place after all the party members have gathered focusing on momentos, confidants, and group hijinx. A complaint about persona is that character development happens outside the plot, but that means for an adaptation you can have the characters develop without it interfering with the plot of the game. This anime also could have been good if it slowed down, focused just on kamoshida and told a stronger narrative with just that. Joker, ann, ryuji, morgana, mishima, shiho, and kamoshida are enough characters to hold a story. If it's not enough, you have momentos, Iwai and Takemi you can use to fill out the arc Then if it was well received, you could do another season on the next palace and more confidants
@kirebub
Жыл бұрын
You're right about P5A, but comparing it to Edgerunners is a bad comparison. It's apples and oranges comparing an adaptation to a derivative work, and of course you'll enjoy the orange more when the apple is spoiled.
@usuallyangry
Жыл бұрын
I will never not be upset about how the Danganronpa anime treated Monaca. (And how it shafted the other Warriors of Hope in turn...)
@Ashtonyss
Жыл бұрын
The Danganronpa anime is unforgivable and I refuse to acknowledge it as Canon.
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@Ashtonyss Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@usuallyangry
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961 Damn bro, what did he do
@frogfish1250
Жыл бұрын
P5 anime being is so crazy considering how good the P4 anime and P3 movies are. You could easily do a follow up video of how the p4 anime fixes all of the issues
@natileroxs5226
Жыл бұрын
On the flip side, the persona 5 manga is actually pretty solid. i'd recommend it to both p5 fans who have played the games and those who just really can't play persona games (i get it, the grinding and confidant juggling can be annoying for some people (including me)) and just want to experience the story. Persona 4's anime is honestly great, it gives the protagonist a real personality that i feel like persona games have begun to lack after persona 2 (highly recommend). It reminds me of what the persona 1 manga does, giving the protagonist a real identity. the most interesting thing about joker is xander mobus and his actually great dynamic with robbie daymond (akechi) danganronpa the animation really should be viewed as separate from the game. i actually enjoyed watching it as i feel like the trials are way too long and the emphasis on every single bit of evidence is a chore, especially in the first game. It's honestly nice to see other characters have a bit of agency and actual brains which contrasts with the game where everyone felt kinda stupid because only makoto could solve the case. makoto himself translates far better because he's an actual character whereas joker is far more player stand in. honestly, if you want to play a persona game with an interesting protagonist, i'd recommend the p2 duology. Tatsuya and Maya are really fun characters who get complicated backstories and are have a significant amount of character even with player choice thrown in. probably helps that you get to see them from the outside too. (they also have canon names which is always a plus. nameless protagonists is a trend that i feel like is getting old) one game i think they did well in adaption is the Castlevania series. they didn't take a plot from the game and instead constructed a brand new story that works as a prologue, so the writers had more creative freedom. it has its faults but it feels a lot more solid in its conception.
@Thenameless1
Жыл бұрын
Braxton can you tell us about the immune system.
@andrewedmondson5943
Жыл бұрын
Apparently a GTA live action movie is being worked on right now. The problem they’re having is, how are they gonna make it better than the game, by swapping all the characters and have it be only be about politics and all the bs no one ever wants
@Noell-ye5rk
4 ай бұрын
I admit the anime’s…really fall flat at times- but it’s my first ever time seeing these games, so they have a very special place in my heart. Without the anime, I wouldn’t have known just how much I would have ADORED Persona or Danganronpa. And so, I absolutely loved them all and convinced me to even BUY these games if possible!
@s_oba
Жыл бұрын
Even a fan-made porn animation had a better fight scene than the Persona 5 anime.
@rpgnut5897
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, none of the “good” video game movies are all that great. They’re just okay.
@hugosenshida999
Жыл бұрын
The danganronpa anime actually made me check the game, i enjoyed it Persona 5 was a bad miss, because persona animes are hella lit. P4's was goated, meanwhile persona 3's movies were probably one of the best game-movie adaptations considering the ambitious persona 3 plot
@eliasknaus7659
Жыл бұрын
The persona 4 Anime is great,bro
@abzu235
Жыл бұрын
Too bad Golden was awful
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@abzu235 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@EatWave
Жыл бұрын
Taking video game, especially those that one can play at one's own pace, have an abundance of side content and have customizable characters whose skills can be used to affect how the games plots unfold are wholly unsuited to be converted to other media. Side stories set in the same world focusing on new characters would be fine, however.
@banobobot
Жыл бұрын
1:45 Now I'm just waiting for you to review Sonic Prime
@CheesyLizzy
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 the animation is the only really good anime to come out of the persona series They just handled it so well and gave the story proper pacing and the characters the time they needed to shine so it works well as a fun anime to watch even if you haven't played the game and a fun anime if you have played the game. I highly recommend it. Though if you want to play p4, I do recommend playing it before watching the anime just cause it's funner to experience the game without having the whole story spoiled already. They made a spinoff anime called Persona 4 Golden the animation later and it's just one of the most unbearable animes I've ever seen. It's just a mishmash jumping to different scenes added in Golden and padding and forcing a new character they introduced into every scene. It's really hard to watch. Lastly there's the Persona 3 anime movies. They're okay, there's some things they did well like their handling of the main character, but the pacing can be kinda wonky at times and the story's just paced a lot better in the game, I'd give the movies a solid 5 out of 10. Overall I'd recommend checking out Persona 4 the animation if you want an example of a Persona anime done right ^^
@MightyMurloc
Жыл бұрын
I agree with your points, but I can't help but feel they're conflicted. Mario Bros, Halo and Uncharted, all terrible adaptations were so criticised BECAUSE they strayed so far from the games. They took characters and settings and seemingly changed everything else. I think Edgerunners is a standout for its original cast and story. But I don't think it's as easy as "tell an original story in an established world" because we've seen that fail many times before.
@reezwave
Жыл бұрын
I have not finished the video yet, but Persona 4 anime is the exception. It's the best funny and also seriously mysterious game adaptation to anime I've ever seen that also funny in both dub and original voice actors. This is the exact reason why Persona 3 movie and Persona 5 the animation even exist. Y'ALL SHOULD WATCH IT IF YOU ALREADY FINISHED PERSONA 4 BTW!
@arieldougan2021
Жыл бұрын
I love the Persona 4 Animation as well as P5 and Danganrompa!
@LowTier4Life
Жыл бұрын
It sucks that most video game anime adaptations are bad but there are a few decent ones. Persona 4's first anime is REALLY good Hypderdimension Neptunia has a pretty good anime Blazblue Alter memory is REALLY bad outside one REALLY good episode but I recommend it almost entirely due to how good the dub is Azur Lane Slow ahead is apparently pretty good which is hilarious becuase the main anime was meh Been hearing good things about the Nier Automata anime. Disgaea's anime was really good until the ending (they went with the normal ending instead of the true ending for the anime) God Eater's anime was different from the game but pretty good, the animation is GOD TIER
@SumeaBizarro
8 ай бұрын
One Weird things is, that even when Danganronpa had 3/1.6 anime with funky gimmick, I feel that series also was a failure. In it's case though, the idea of doing uniquely anime only stories that works as effective 3rd installment, and finisher(?) to the story, and a gap filler for stuff that happened between 1st and 2nd game, the end result has issues with subpar writing and general lack of impact the writing in games had. For me considering the DR3 anime as hard canon would even reduce writing and story beats of Danganronpa 2, the continuation/finish portion of the anime has confusing weird death game with obtuse finish and all in all. While the idea of Danganronpa 3 is way more in right place than the adaptation of the first game, those too can be botched easily by meh writing and execution, which is true for everything I guess.
@sherryrose6608
Жыл бұрын
What wanna see a comparison of "the world end with you" game from the anime because that is the opposite way of P5 anime 😅
@jettledesma561
8 ай бұрын
Glad to see that there's someone else out there that has played the conception games. Or knows about the series outside its awful anime.
@mrflipperinvader7922
4 ай бұрын
I watched the Danganronpa anime before playing the game and i had fun with it I love Akuma's voice in that
@pancakekechi8852
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad mostly everyone recognises that the P4 anime was a great adaptation of it’s game. It was the thing that introduced me too the persona franchise as a kid and it still holds up pretty well imo. As for persona 5 when the anime came out I was genuinely so disappointed. It felt so boring and the pacing was terrible. All they did was try to replicate the game with no thought put into it. I wish they could have taken what they did with p4. just following the basic main plot points while also fleshing out their characters and adding too the story. All round disappointment persona 5 is my favourite game in the series and the anime had so much potential. :((
@cosmi-ky
Жыл бұрын
it's funny regarding joker's character because i would argue that joker in the game has a more defined personality than he does in the anime
@selectioncrescimento
Жыл бұрын
The danganronpa anime adaptation single handedly ruined the series for newcomers, every time someone says that danganronpa is bad I ask them which games theyve played and they always say "i only watched the anime"
@Xeorboom
Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused how they somehow don't completely mess up but just fail at certain points and mess up the continuity (seriously are these canon or not?!) also... THERE'S AN ACE ATTORNEY ANIMÉ?!
@jaromswenson7541
Жыл бұрын
i think cyberpunk edgerunners might be a little different. when 2077 came out, barely anyone was praising the story, and many didn't even experience it. so edgerunners going their own way would not be criticized at all, since no one realy has attachment to the game story and wont go "man i want anime, but exactly like this games story that i played". the same goes for the league of legends animation (since LOL the game doesn't realy have a story anyway). but as soon as the game, or book, has an iconic story that is well loved, you will have a large portion of the fanbase who would only want the anime/movie adaptation to redo the story from the game. which, as you pointed out, rarely works. i do agree with doing more side stories based in these settings. like flesh out the backstory of sgt johnson from halo, instead of the shit we got. but i think the big issue is that many fanbases dont know what they want. we might say "make this game into a movie/series", but end up regretting it because the adaptation sucks, but i guarantee you that they will still ask for it with the next franchise that gets the next adaptation.
@killprecnt3702
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 the animation the og not golden is stright out fire . The voice cast is amazing and they kinda change the story some times but i really like it . Also 4 is my favorite game soo❤
@roseludenberg881
Жыл бұрын
I watched Danganronpa: the animation when I was super into the games (name says it all) and I was super disappointed by it. the game gives you free time events to talk with your fellow classmates and get to know who they are, which makes their deaths/executions much more impactful. when you don’t have that time in the anime, you don’t really care for what happens to the characters and you don’t get to linger on their deaths for very long until the next major story beat happens. the game makes many callbacks to those who have been lost to the killing game and goes a good job with keeping the air of mystery as to why you’re stuck in hope’s peak in the first place, which you can’t say for the anime.
@panthekirb7561
Жыл бұрын
At least you can see the hottest and best character in action and animated. Makes it all worth. (Morgana)
@eggrollin5718
Жыл бұрын
I could gas up P4A or the P3 movies since they're pretty good but honestly not enough people talk about how bad Persona 4 Golden the animation was. It's OK if you've already played P4 and don't really think to hard about it but judging as it's own TV series it has zero coherency. Like the first episode tries to speedrun through P4's 3 hour intro but straight up doesn't show the murder mystery aspect of the game and then the second episode comes along and instead of giving the story an actual introduction it just skips to June and has Kanji, who has no introduction or mention in P4GA , just there with no explanation and then the rest of the episode is basically filler comedy. The rest of the show has the issue of introducing members of the main cast out of nowhere and mostly just showing "iconic" moments from P4G with zero buildup to the point where it feels like Best of Compilation or an advertisement for the new stuff they added in Persona 4 Golden I don't have evidence but I'm convinced that the creators wanted you to watch a couple episodes of the regular Persona 4 Anime in between episodes of P4GA so you have context because of how disjointed P4GA by itself.
@elementalcatplays6463
Жыл бұрын
The A in the title of the anime actually stands for any%
@cherubin7th
9 ай бұрын
There are amines with like 900 episodes. So length is not the real issue, cutting cost would be the reason.
@alejandrotti10
Жыл бұрын
Seeing that a lot of people already talked wonders with P4, I have to talk about this. The case with Persona 3 is even weirder. The movies in total sums up the story in an even shorter length that Persona 5 The Animation and Persona 4 The Animation, being a total of likely 6 hours, which is to say 12 episodes. And they told the entire story and added a little more context without that much of a problem because of two things: Tartarus had almost nothing compared to both Mementos and the Midnight Channel, and the protagonist didn't even care to grind for friendship at the beginning, which made it easier to skip a lot of the filler, specially at the beginning, where the plot doesn't advance for a long time in the actual game. And why do I say that P3 is even weirder if that looks natural with the explanation? Well, it's because even before these movies, these other Persona animes, and before even Persona 4 was released on the same year, they also tried to make their own Edgerunners in the past: Persona Trinity Soul. An anime that was good by its own standards, but fell off really hard because of two things: The pacing, which was WAY slower than what people would expect from a half-action game (which sold the mystery and the thriller, but not the Jojo-like combat), and the presentation of it as a direct sequel, which is not; is a spinoff, just like Edgerunners isn't a direct prequel of V's story (aka 2077's protagonist). Sadly, the anime flopped so hard that few people barely remembers it, and there's no reason to see it because, thanks to some events in the Persona spinoff games that were confirmed as canon, Trinity Soul stopped being cannon. Shenanigan only Persona 1 and 2 would understand.
@k.d.m.d
Жыл бұрын
If i had to guess what they could have done for the p5 anime adaption then maybe they could have covered the game from goro's prospective. We could see what he was doing in every palace he visited.
@xXSoulGeoXx
Жыл бұрын
Persona 3 Trinity Soul its the one example of a spin-off done for a game that could be used as an example (haven't watched it myself though)
@vadandrumist1670
Жыл бұрын
While this won't do anything for games like Danganrompa or Ace Attorney, P5 has an advantage I think could be utilized in a way I haven't seen anyone do before. To summarize: "full-length sfm". Why not instead of making every frame from scratch they instead use the character and area models they already have? Use the dialogue not just word-for-word but voice acted line-for-line? The work's already done for them with so much so scimp on the redundant quality and go for the elaborative quantity. Another thing would be to not put the show into a box for time in anything. Take each part that can be considered a segment and create them in isolation and only put them together in that context. You want a confidant's story then put as it's own thing and be damned how much of a seizure you're giving the calender to do it. Don't limit the episodes per season, don't give a maximum or minimum time per episode, and don't compress or inflate content. If pokemon can get away with over 50 episodes of 99% filler a season then why not everyone else?
@TheDigitalApple
Жыл бұрын
Some games don’t deserve the silver screen treatment.
@kemlykamar3984
Жыл бұрын
You’ve made some very great points but I have one question: What if Persona 5 (and others) was your first introduction to the series
@susie_haltmann
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 Animation is... The Golden Standard... It's really, really, really well done. Amazing game to anime translation. It adds more context to the game, while keeping a great pacing, great personality for the characters, great comedy, etc. It's 10/10
@JoobyMcGee
Жыл бұрын
I don't know what this guy watched, but Persona 5, Danganronpa the animation, and Danganronpa 3 we're all really good anime. The only one of those three I'd say had a problem would be Danganronpa the animation, and that's because it completely lacked character development and didn't give you a reason to care when characters die But to be fair to the anime, that was a problem with the first Danganronpa game anyway Because the only ones you'd have a reason to care about are the only ones who don't die, you know it's bad when the most interesting part of chapter 4 isn't the mystery of who killed Sakura but how the mystery changes Byakuya's character, I'd say The first game was worst if Ultra Despair Girls didn't exist Edit: By the way, SCREW YOU Joker has a personality
@crossleb
Жыл бұрын
Angels of Death is a RPGmaker game that was turned into an anime. It basically tells the story of the game from start to finish. It cuts out a lot of gameplay, but the story was short enough to work.
@commonsense5199
Жыл бұрын
Angelina Jolie’s Tomb Raider movies are good video game movies. I don’t know about the reboot one I didn’t see that. Also did anyone remembers *2009 Street Fighter Movie Legend of Chun Li?* seem everyone forgot about that. Michael Clarke Duncan as Barlong and Taboo from Black eyes pea played Vega.
@N_DAnimationEnthusiast
Жыл бұрын
Ironic how Persona 3 & 4 had better anime adaptations than Persona 5’s adaptation. Edit 2: 10:00 Also ironic considering Yu and Makoto’s character in their respective anime.
@sdbzfan1
Жыл бұрын
also Ironic people actual use their anime names over their manga names unlike P5 where people bend over backwards to not use the anime name
@flysoup3607
Жыл бұрын
@@sdbzfan1 people like how Akira Kurusu sounds.
@sdbzfan1
Жыл бұрын
@@flysoup3607 every argument ive ever heard comes down to the anime was bad so i dont use the anime name, im not saying people cant like the manga name more but everyone that ive seen that likes the names Yu and Makoto but then use Akira say it doesnt matter if the anime names are used in the dancing games and arena, I like Akira more and the anime sucks anyways Its just funny how the anime being good makes Yu and Makoto ok to like but Ren gets so much shit because the anime is bad
@jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
Жыл бұрын
@@sdbzfan1 Please Just Stop. You've already fallen from grace, and you're just accelerating your downfall.
@smoker5989
Жыл бұрын
@@sdbzfan1 what are you talking about? I see much more people who refer to Joker as "Ren" instead of "Akira" people that call him Akira was mainly in the year 2017 and starts of 2018 when the anime still didn't came out
@diegoguerra7603
Жыл бұрын
and once again here is proof that the only good side-media that atlus has published are the anthology mangas, the P1 manga (Highly recommend to read it if you don't want to play the game) and the Devil Summoner TV- Series, why? because they focus exactly only in the story but adapted and gives the characters more personality (even naoya the P1 protag gets a lot of personality and characterization than any other persona protagonist, same thing with kyouji)
@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053
Жыл бұрын
The Devil Survivor anime is indeed the best MegaTen anime
@Windermed
Жыл бұрын
@@gerardoalexandergarciamend7053 Devil Survivor 2's anime? what makes it good if ytou don't mind me asking i'm probably gonna continue to watch it but so far the first episode didn't really give me the best impression (especially the dub but that might be because im used to the Record Breaker English VAs)
@GrapeJuiceIII
Жыл бұрын
The persona 3 movies are phenomenal adaptations in my opinion. Makes small tweaks to the game’s story and cutscenes that aren’t massive but help flush out some characters a little better. Definitely recommend. As for Persona 4, I’ve heard some people say that it works better as an anime than a game. I haven’t seen the anime though, so I cannot say for sure.
@WSendam
Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 the animation I remember being GOATED and funny and it still is for me 😅 so I don’t know if anyone else agrees with me Edit: Also I would love you to review the Scorpions Revenge movie from Mortal Kombat
@daisynetta9225
Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the DR1 anime in high school. I had no idea it was even a game. That anime was AWFUL.
@medrash8862
Жыл бұрын
Here hoping you will get around to P3 and P4 sometime, especially P3. Despite having absolutely horrible pacing (especially near the beginning of the game which i wouldnt be surprised if people dropped it there) it has to be my favorite story in the modern persona games
@MrFantailler
Жыл бұрын
Devil May Cry - a 2007 anime adaptation is a seriously good stuff. Really, watch it lads.
@meikisaragi1445
Жыл бұрын
One good adaptation from a video game is Tales of Zestiria the X. Though it's not the greatest, it is good and decent imo. The fact that they made extra effort to change a bit of the narrative to suit an episodic series is great. As always, All hail Ufotable! But back on persona, P4A and P3 movies were great though. They really just messed up on P5A.
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