Your story about Steven using Toxic on your Heracross reminds me of when I teamed up with Cynthia at the battle tree and her Spiritomb used Swagger on my Mimikyu holding a Lum Berry. Can see why these guys are champions, they got strategy 🤣
@kartiksaraf4676
2 жыл бұрын
That's so amazing. Wow
@anujsingh333
4 жыл бұрын
I definitely with your lesser point about gyms needing to move on from monotype. I think different strategies like stat boosts, volt-turn, TR, semi stall, etc would be good for the single player experience
@Brad-Ley
4 жыл бұрын
I'm one to agree. If I was to have a theme rather than a mono-type, I'd choose a "Hex" based team. For those that want to know why, as you know the secondary effects of Hex is a X2 power boost if the opposition as any status condition. With that said, definitely be expecting Prankster ability Pokemon quite a bit in my team.
@jaernihiltheus7817
4 жыл бұрын
Volt-turn was already a thing. Specifically Elesa used all fast pokemon with Volt Switch, 2 of which are immune to your go-to (Ground), all of which have super effective coverage on Grass that would resist her Volt Switching. She even gave her 2 Emolga Pursuit in case you're stupid enough to try and switch into something that can better take her on. Even having her Zebstrika have Lightningrod can hurt you as if you try to hit her Emolga for neutral with electric attacks it can volt absorb into you giving her ace a free Sp. Attack boost to further obliterate you with Volt Switch. Basically what I'm saying is: Black 2/White 2's Elesa is built entirely on speed control, momentum shifting, and countering the two types that would otherwise be able to give you an easy sweep against pretty much every other Electric type trainer (Ground and Grass). We need more Elesas in the world.
@andresmarrero8666
4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't quite work considering the lore of the pokemon world, mechanically it does, lorewise not so much. What you can do is stack the stage in the gym leader's favor, not have them be brain dead, and give them competent movesets and items. Rihan is a joke as a gym leader for his team because he is supposed to be a dragon type gym leader yet his team really isn't that. Also he is more interested in taking selfies than anything else.
@jaernihiltheus7817
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, another example is roark from gen 4, kind of. Both his mons know stealth rock (though as the 1st gym he can't utilize it well). Iirc his cranidos also knows roar but i may be misremembering. Roxanne could be considered speed control too as all her mons have rock tomb and iirc her nosepass can paralyze (might've been an emerald rematch only feature now thar i think about it). Flannery is a sun abuser, and (in emerald rematches only) norman's strat is a double battle team featuring skill swap blissey/chansey and slaking. I guess what im saying is many gym leaders from gens 3-5 had very clear team strats at play besides just being monotype. It's just that they weren't leaned on as hard as rihan and elesa and in some cases their gym placement hurt them a lot
@ancientshiv9837
4 жыл бұрын
Some gym leaders have strategies like set ups, my favorite example is Cherren from BW2, he uses work up and can sweep you.
@justyouraverageweebwhocana2924
4 жыл бұрын
2:21 JPR: this fight is a great example of how many more strategies can be used in doubles than in single battles. Thunder armor: allow me to introduce myself
@prajwald36
4 жыл бұрын
I was and still am speechless
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
@@prajwald36 Underused, yes, but not as much as Theme-based Gym-Leaders.
@HardikAgarwal10
3 жыл бұрын
POV: it was Pikachu activating swellow's guts ability by paralyzing it.
@TechnoArpan
Жыл бұрын
@@HardikAgarwal10 and somehow Pikachu got a boost too?
@SoraIndigo
4 жыл бұрын
You know they are balancing pokemon games to fit the Doubles meta when they nerf dark void, a sleep move that isn't even 100% accuracy, to 50% accuracy
@esteban8471
4 жыл бұрын
I thought they did that because Smeargle was abusing the move harder than an alcoholic stepdad.
@BillyBob-xx5jr
4 жыл бұрын
@@esteban8471 Yeah, Darkrai had the move for a long time, and it was relatively fine, mainly because Darkrai isn't very good in a Doubles format outside of dark void, that and the fact that Darkrai took one of the coveted restricted slots on a team, meant that the only mon who used dark void wasn't used because losing a restricted slot for an inconsistent sleep move wasn't worth it. It wasn't until Smeargle started using dark void that it really became broken. The ability to potentially sleep both of your opponent's mons, with a high likely-hood to sleep at least one of them, that unlike other sleep moves, had no real easy counters like dark types immune to hypnosis, or safety goggles protecting from sleep and rage powder, who also had access to massive amounts of utility outside of dark void with no restricted limitation was broken.
@TayoAAdetola
4 жыл бұрын
@@BillyBob-xx5jr You can't use mythical Pokemon in VGC even if they are in an unrestricted format. (It has something to do with not everyone gets the same Chance of having these Pokemon legally) so Pokemon like Darkrai and Shaymin are not used because they belong to that category not because they are bad.
@randoncourter4923
4 жыл бұрын
@@TayoAAdetola would my delta episode deoxys be restricted?
@faisalsalam4161
4 жыл бұрын
@@randoncourter4923 there shouldn't be any difference between delta episode deoxys and other deoxys. I don't remember deoxys ever being particularly legal in most vgc formats. I feel like legendaries are normally just the box legendaries or Pokemon like latios or landorus.
@AdrianAdrianMedina
4 жыл бұрын
There should just be an option at the beginning of the game to set your game to single battle mode or double battle mode
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
That's putting wayyyy to much work into the game then is needed. It will be much easier to develop a game with double battles being naturally part of the game then having to develop another team for every major trainer. The option we should have is a difficulty setting because it is much easier to change ai and lvl differences then rebalance an entire team.
@JellyJiggler7
4 жыл бұрын
@@squidlytv it really wouldn't be that difficult...modders already do it for current games so no reason gf couldn't do it if they actually put in effort. Also a hard difficulty wouldn't really matter much if the teams aren't rebalanced...
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
@@JellyJiggler7 They made a challenge mode in BW2 without doing to much rebalancing. I just dont believe its necessary to make two separate battle modes like that.
@kazoorion7993
4 жыл бұрын
@@squidlytv Dude, Pokemon is literally the highest grossing media in the world. Work like that is what the series LACKS nowadays.
@codyjacobs6899
4 жыл бұрын
But then battles against one over leveled pokemon would be a 2on1. It should be that gyms and e4 are all double battles. More than that is fine, but it should be part of the games story entirely, not a pick one or the other thing
@RetroAndChill
4 жыл бұрын
I would also add if we're going to stay using singles for the major battles, can we at least have the AI switch out when their Pokémon are in danger?
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
This. One of the hardest pkmn gyms was Elesa electric gym because of moves like volt switch. Switching is 100% part of singles strategy and it's lack of inclusion is disappointing.
@RetroAndChill
4 жыл бұрын
@@squidlytv I think I've seen that AI do it once, and that was against Cynthia.
@riotkitty
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps. I only ever saw Elsa switch out, and only with Volt Switch the move, I think also Bugsy with U-turn, but I always wonder why AI can’t switch out, and if they can, just with a move and not normally
@jaernihiltheus7817
4 жыл бұрын
@@riotkitty Some do, but it's only really in Gens 4 and 5 that proper switches occur. The AI has to be at a certain level, conditions have to be right (the AI won't switch a completely healthy pokemon out, for example), and there seems to be a hard once per battle limit from my experience. And even then if all of those boxes are checked it's still not a guarantee.
@zjzr08
4 жыл бұрын
Switching seems to be a thing in Battle Tower/Frontier facilities.
@Pokemark17
4 жыл бұрын
Double triple even rotation just spice things up a bit
@handsoaphandsoap
4 жыл бұрын
I actually really love Rotation Battles and would like to see them return. It forces you to really consider what your opponent is thinking and try to predict what they’ll do or what your most beneficial action in each situation might be.
@jamiewalsh3349
4 жыл бұрын
Galar Star Tournament: Hi I heard you wanted more double battles?
@darkraiknight386
4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that for Multi Battles?
@adoeri7159
4 жыл бұрын
He called the fight against Maxie and Tabitha alongside Steven also "a double battle"
@KrlozGod
4 жыл бұрын
That’s multi battles, you are going to rely on you stupid partners IA
@komi___
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything here, the problem is convincing game freak to do this.
@levelearthrealist7132
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty much this.
@BillyBob-xx5jr
4 жыл бұрын
While I get what you mean, Double Battles have unique strategies that Singles can't replicate, I feel making every plot important fight a Double Battle is a bit unwise. The way you described Singles makes them seem as mindless "Pick whatever does the most damage" fests that are just there to waste time, but this just isn't the case. Singles focus on different tactics than Doubles. Doubles focuses on coordinating 2 mons at once and figuring out whether its worth increasing your power or focusing down one of the opponent's mons. Singles on the other hand, focuses on switches, and making your entire 6 mon team work as a cohesive unit, not several units fairly isolated from each other. I feel that Singles and Doubles both have their own worth in terms of competitive intrigue, and feel that they should both appear in plot important battles, not having 1 be what you use for most of the game, and then have plot important fights be testing entirely different skills than the one you practice a majority of the time.
@JPRPokeTrainer98
4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Single Battles can have complex strategy as well, it's just that in most cases Game Freak has opted not to show it off. Meanwhile the double battles we have received show a bit more of that deeper thinking I mentioned. Competitive Single battles are still very much viable, but sadly the AI generally isn't advanced enough to make constant switches or utilize what it has to offer imo. But I agree, maybe Doubles for every major plot-battle is overkill. It would be nice if they had a mix of different formats though.
@BillyBob-xx5jr
4 жыл бұрын
@@JPRPokeTrainer98 I feel like the AI is probably solid enough for decent strategies in Singles, its mainly the movepool and mons that the trainers are given that's the issue. Moves that most experienced Single Battlers will tell you are incredibly important, (Entry hazards, status moves, coverage, etc.) are rarely given to trainers in-game. At most maybe some Battle Frontier trainers, and the player themselves are rarely given mons who learn these moves naturally, or just TMs for them, which leads to battles sort of being forced to become spamfests, as neither trainer has the resources for anything else.
@BillyBob-xx5jr
4 жыл бұрын
@@JPRPokeTrainer98 I feel the main problem with Pokemon's difficulty isn't the battle type, more just Game Freak's refusal to put any amount of time or care into the teams of trainers. Most of the time trainers are just given random mons who's individual strength is slightly above nearby wild mons. Gym leaders are given no more time than just selecting 2-4 mons who share a type, with the most effort put in being whether to make them only use mons from that region, or any region.
@faisalsalam4161
4 жыл бұрын
@@BillyBob-xx5jr that's why I personally use to love about fighting on Smogon in OU tier. There is something more charming to me at least about that singles format and that kind of strategy. I mean I personally also haven't invested ever really any time into doubles meta in Pokemon and that is something I want to do. Like I want to get more into vgc but I don't know if that format is for me.
@andresmarrero8666
4 жыл бұрын
@@BillyBob-xx5jr what about triple, rotation, and inverse battles? They have a lot of potential as well.
@Nameless_mixes
4 жыл бұрын
Viewers: “Pokemon has never been a difficult game”. Whitney, Tate/Liza, Cynthia: ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU???
@MagillanicaLouM
3 жыл бұрын
@Jett Lucas Hayes Yeah Lurantis fugged me up bad and half my team had the type advantage when I played lol
@_a_random_muffin_
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, becouse you May be hard But the rest of the game isn't
@hindubanodhruvnahi779
2 жыл бұрын
Tate and Liza are difficult even when you are overleveled Whitney was easy for me idk why people think that she is difficult And Cynthia was ok
@LautaroArgentino
2 жыл бұрын
I've never really had an issue with Tate and Liza, even as a child. Might be because I always picked a mudkip as my starter.
@ennothedishonorable5530
4 жыл бұрын
Temtem the "Pokémon Clone" has basicly only double battles. And I totally love it. Also that you can play the whole story in coop.
@LanFiesta
4 жыл бұрын
I think that TemTems battle system is great and I really wish Pokemon would take some inspiration from Crema. I got waxed more in the first dojo then I did in all of sword and shield too. I would love some difficulty toon
@zjzr08
4 жыл бұрын
Also the wild single battles are against evolved Tems which is kinda like a micro-Raid Battle, showing how powerful one of a species could be.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
4 жыл бұрын
persona 5 is better than temtem though
@starmangalaxy2001
4 жыл бұрын
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 Well that's just because Persona is more of a standard JRPG than a monster catcher. Meanwhile Pokemon and Temtem tilt the scales the other ways being more Monster Catcher focused.
@TheMNHShow
4 жыл бұрын
Temtem is so slow, it makes double battles feel so dragged on. Put me off
@delbut12
4 жыл бұрын
You could say I’m a pro double battler. I mean, I’m a *Pokeball* Rank on SwSh Online. Yeah, it’s pretty sweaty.
@raidev_
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been in great ball :o
@Neevkl_7
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta get to masterball every season in singles and doubles for that 1200bp and 6 gold caps.
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
A NATIONS STRENGTH. The actual Combined Level or Power or Something of a Pokemon-Region and therefore its actual theoretical Military Might: This is literally something i see non-covered by all of the Poke-Tubers. What about Poke-Goverments!?
@gaminggrunt6340
4 жыл бұрын
"Pokemon needs more double battles!" Nuzlockers: "Guess I'll die!"
@CaptainMarvel4Ever
4 жыл бұрын
I agree to a certain point, but just as you say Game Freak underestimates kids, to some extent you overestimate casuals. One of my roommate's co-works, a full-grown adult, has tried and failed 5 times to beat Raihan. I'm not sure if she tried again and won or just gave up, but clearly, even a bit more complexity can really throw some people off who primarily play on mobile levels of casual. Even a more hardcore gamer I knew who has kids and 2 jobs needs the games as streamlined as possible to get through. Problem is too once someone starts to fall off a game, they sometimes fall off the series even if they still really like it. Even for an extra hardcore fan like myself, I fell out of Pokemon for a bit around the Black and White era since I got too busy with college. Don't get me wrong, Raihan was also my favorite battle in Sword and Shield (in terms of sheer gameplay) along with the Opal match, and Game Freak obviously cares about us hardcore fans. I just think it's harder to appeal to more seasoned obsessive fans like us without potentially alienating the very ripe plum that is the less driven fans like my roommate (who almost dropped off for good after Black/White until I got him back into it). I'm sure they have conversations like this every day in board rooms trying to figure out a good middle ground. Granted I still love the games and do believe that challenge is one of the least important aspects of Pokemon and that the more competitive Battle Tower style and self-imposed challenges offer plenty in that regard so it's not like I'm bent out of shape in any way. Don't misinterpret though, this is a great video (please keep em commin), and it's important to talk about these things. Even with teams of highly paid and educated statisticians, fan feedback (especially detailed and thought out feedback like this) is still invaluable and irreplaceable. These are all great points, and while I may not want that many double battles in my campaign, more of them and more of them like Raihan are very much welcome. Honestly, they don't even need to be that challenging, just fun like his battle was, that's more of what I want to see. Lastly, that fact about Steven exploiting Guts is so cool! great find.
@JPRPokeTrainer98
4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words and feedback my friend! Cheers :)
@CaptainMarvel4Ever
4 жыл бұрын
@@JPRPokeTrainer98 No prob man, glad these videos are thoughtful enough that they make me wanna type out a thoughtful reply. Keep up the great work!
@raze2012_
4 жыл бұрын
this is the primary reason Pokemon needed difficulty levels like decades ago. Surprising how pokemon wants to be this universal franchise but never try and give universal options from the get go.
@Kall_Mii_Kemo
4 жыл бұрын
I miss hoard battles. Doubles is dope tho. They need a revisit to Orre with a wild area and 15-20 new pkmn speices
@derekw8039
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. With no routes, Orre would make for a perfect Wild Area while keeping its layout intact!
@andresmarrero8666
4 жыл бұрын
@@derekw8039 please no, it does need a wild area.
@machina5
4 жыл бұрын
@@andresmarrero8666 That's what he just said
@zjzr08
4 жыл бұрын
Why they removed that, I don't get it -- they didn't even have triple battles too in SwSh when it is much powerful than the 3DS.
@goalhornfanatic9449
4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, but how would a Region we've visited twice suddenly have 15-20 new species pop up? If anything, I'd say there could be Orre-ian forms of pokemon. But I think you're onto something. I'd love a third Orre game.
@DomiG004
2 жыл бұрын
What could be an interesting take on a pokemon game. Instead of you traveling alone, you could travel with a partner. Both could have teams up to 6 and make it focused on double battles. There could be parts where you're separated from each other for a moment, but then meet back up for more double battles.
@user-fd7fi4vj8p
4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Galar League actually exist in the anime, otherwise they wouldn't call Raihan a gym-leader, and Leon is combined 2 titles: Galar Champion and #1 in PWC. It's just not a main focus in PM. Like in episode 18 before Ash entered to the gym for his PWC battle, there was a legitimate challenger with judge being a gym worker, and not Rotom Drone, like in PWC matches.
@MagillanicaLouM
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's how it is. World tournament is just a side thing, gym leaders go on breaks to partake in. Like if the gym battle you're talking about is the one I'm thinking of, the gym leader was just Lt.Surge's stand in she was his best student iirc
@nathanthompson663
4 жыл бұрын
Oras lowered the levels of all gymn leader. Made the starters grow super fast. Npcs battled like they dont wanna win. Exp boosts were hard to avoid. They made that game for 4 year olds.
@CasualKing21
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has gotten into VGC/doubles in this latest gen I agree, I would like to see more doubles representation. Especially in the anime. I want to see a doubles tournament arc, a 2 person team w/ 2 pokemon each but if only 1 person wants to enter then they can have 4 pokemon or something. Weather, trick room, helping hand, etc would be cool to see.
@FoxxyFire-HellFrost
2 жыл бұрын
Triple, rotation, and horde battles were also very cool. They took so much strategy and planning, it made them super interesting and unique. Reverse battles are a fun gimmick, too. However, I totally understand why those could never be mainstream. Too much strategy for new players who aren't fully familiar with type matchups.
@johnathanjohnson121
4 жыл бұрын
It amazing how JPR talks about double battles and the Galarian Star Tournament that is coming out in the DLC that associate with double battles
@matthewesposito6973
Жыл бұрын
It’s no surprise that difficulty jacks utilize double battles so often. Also side note since the cheering from Galarian gyms played at the end, I loved that feature as gyms really pay tribute to football stadiums in England, the region false is based off of
@kushgodreturns5873
4 жыл бұрын
Double battles > Single battles
@spiritpriestes1
4 жыл бұрын
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@spiritpriestes1
4 жыл бұрын
*::)
@Sonicjan
4 жыл бұрын
Triple Battles > Double Battles > Single Battles
@SuperJoselink
4 жыл бұрын
Doubles was fun man. Combos is fun. Gives more than just one Pokémon some show time. You can use your strong Pokémon along with a weak Pokémon that you wanna level up faster.
@marselfilipovic2667
4 жыл бұрын
First of all I need to say that I never been the biggest fan of doubles, but I like the points your making in this video. The variety of strategys in doubles is very big, but I like it that singles and doubles are strategically very different. Doubles allow more pokemons/moves to be used and that’s why I really enjoy doubles more and more. The point that the gyms shouldn’t use just monotypes or use like a secondary strategy is one I am preaching now for like 10 years now. I know as we all do that these games are also thought for kids to get to know the franchise better and not to be the most challenging for like an 8 yrs old that’s why I think personally that they won’t overload the game with double battles simply because they are more difficult. Nevertheless I think you made good points and a good video in total, like I said I’m more a singles guy and enjoy it more but can totally understand if people enjoy doubles more. This was the first video I’ve seen from you and definitely look out for your content.
@robertlupa8273
3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm Tate & Liza were difficult because I've played Emerald a while ago for the first time and OH BOY was it close! It was the hardest gym battle I've ever won on my first try, and it was fun! Sudden but not riduculous difficulty spikes are good, IMO. And yes, we need more gimmick gyms, like for Trick Room or weathers.
@sun332s7
3 жыл бұрын
For my whole “difficulty in Pokémon” I do honestly agree with Pokémon games have never been difficult. Unless I’m doing a self imposed challenge it’s honestly difficult for me to find a Pokémon difficult.
@Goldmight
4 жыл бұрын
I have been an advocate for this, before this video even existed but knowing pokemon fans, they would later complain because is not the same as the pokemon game they played before.
@zjzr08
4 жыл бұрын
I would say I would agree with that, although the ratio of singles and doubles (and triples, personally speaking) should be more balanced.
@trent800
4 жыл бұрын
@@zjzr08 yeah there are still good ways to make single battles like Baton Pass, Volt turn and Stall teams
@bishaljahir156
4 жыл бұрын
Raihan's gym battle could be made tougher by reprogramming it a bit. 1.First Sandaconda should be switched instead of Gigalith and started with STAB Earthquake instead of sandstorm-because Flygon- which is the aily has Levitate, not sand rush. And Same time if it uses Dragon dance and outrage and if Flygon have focus sash-The match could be tougher...
@kingfish5280
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I never really paid attention to the opening. I always thought it was some sort of generic Rocky-esque fanfare but I just recently realized that it's Aim to be a Pokemon master. It actually works so well.
@pathos7527
3 жыл бұрын
What I think would be a great solution to having more doubles inclusion would be to make a version difference in one of the Gens be that one version is more single battles focused and the other is more double battles focused. Actually, this goes along with my interest in a “for beginners” and a “for veterans” approach to the two version dynamic in general, as Game Freak has danced around how to balance teaching mechanics to new players while not making the opening of the game a chore for veterans who know all the basics, when they already have a long standing two version dichotomy to segregate experiences more tailored for each group. So picture this: in a forthcoming Gen, in one version you have the “beginners” version with your rival picking the starter weak to yours, all the tutorials in the beginning section of the game, singles focus so as not to overwhelm on the strategy, a generally easier challenge in the vein of X & Y to make getting through it more approachable, the affection based perks from Aimie and Camp and such, and even a lighter tone to the story in the vein of a good amount of 6th and 7th Gen. Maybe other aspects like more money and items given to you freely. Then there is the “veterans” version. Rival picks the starter strong to yours, notutorials, doubles focus, greater challenge (think Challenge mode for Black and White 2), no affection perks and a somewhat more mature story in the vein of Black and White. The inverse on the money and items thing. If they really wanted to go next level, even having different starters of different types than the traditional. This solves a lot of issues in my mind. Game Freak doesn’t alienate beginners by challenging too much with the first version, but doesn’t alienate the veterans they can’t pretend aren’t out there in droves at this point in the series history by providing the second. And the cool thing is this would give a really interesting difference to make both sides want to play both versions. The beginners could enjoy a new and bigger challenge by doing the veteran version second, while veterans could enjoy taking a break from their more challenging version with the more lighthearted beginner version. While some aspects of what I said maybe wouldn’t make the final cut, I think all in all a lot of that is perfectly doable and better meets the interests of old fans and new at once, a solution I think they’d really benefit from. Here’s hoping.
@Legion12Centurion
2 жыл бұрын
I mean I like it aswell, they did have some good fun mechanics and moves that where mostly for doubles before. However to add to your point I would love for many more if not most to have 4-6 pokemons. It makes no sence that almost all trainers carry 2-3. I would also love a functionality to ask trainers for battle not be engaged all the time. And when you ask someone for a battle you can ask for single and how many mons, double how many mons etc (Yes a removal of you can use 6 and they can only use as many as they have). If they have 3 mons on them you can only battle with 3 that you select for that battle. That would give as a player much more freedom and choiche in who I battle, how we battle and so on.
@infinity8715
4 жыл бұрын
I wish SOS would return in dlc
@jwanie366
4 жыл бұрын
As a VGC player, I highly agree with this. From time to time I'll see people asking why VGC is always Doubles and saying that it should be Singles instead. Maybe if there were more Double Battles in-game, they would understand better
@asuuki2048
4 жыл бұрын
I... personally prefer Single battles /; I don’t think that EVERY major battle needs to be in Doubles. I absolutely LOATHE the fact that VGC refuses to integrate a Singles format. It’s why I don’t participate (:::: It’s like I’m locked into one format... With that said, I respect your opinion.
@KrlozGod
4 жыл бұрын
No the one used in official format but there’s also a si goes ranked format in every game, the battles are 3 vs 3 though.
@JoViljarHaugstulen
3 жыл бұрын
The issue with combining single and double battles is that... well it pushes players to either have teams which are okay at both or having teams which are great either singles or doubles but not so great in the other.... or the player have to create 1 team for single battles and 1 for double battles and run around swapping teams each time they have the wrong kind of team for a challenging fight Though it could be made an option if you want single or double battles but that would require more work as the trainers would need to have different moves on their pokemon (and maybe some different pokemons as well) depending on if it is singles or doubles (of course trainers that are supposed to be easy to defeat can be mostly the same)
@johnnymind4151
4 жыл бұрын
Double battles are cool and would make support moves and pokémon more important (think about Milcery and Alcremie in gen 8, for example). It would be really interesting if they made double battles the "official" battles in-game too, because it would be exactly the same as it is with the real official VGC tournaments and could be a gateway of sorts for that, too. Also, yes, not only type gyms, but specific strategy gym would be really welcome, would add much more needed variety to the games and would stress even more the core concept of modern pokémon: cooperation to achieve a goal.
@robbymanable
4 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for a true Pokémon challenge, try going into Colosseum with NO prior knowledge of it
@MagusAgrippa8
4 жыл бұрын
As Emerald was my first game, I started with doubles in mind and have really never looked back. By sheer virtue of being used to the format most of my playthrough teams end up with at least some degree of double battle synergy. I’d love to get some more use out of it.
@Brad-Ley
4 жыл бұрын
I'm closed to the same. My first experience was Stadium, but my first main series game was FireRed (Gen 3, Kanto). So Double battles are just something I grew up with. I basically make sure my team has variety and synergy for type coverage as well as strategy coverage.
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
I have the complete opposite. Growing up with games that involve more singles (Gen 4 and 5) I immediately ditch the moves that would aid me in doubles. Simply because they don't happen enough for me to justify one of my 4 moves slots.
@aymodaslacker8852
3 жыл бұрын
@@squidlytv ya I think we just need more exposure to double format to even justify keeping those moves around. Which is why double battle exclusive game actually sounds like a good idea for me, I want to understand why some of those moves are important.
@squidlytv
3 жыл бұрын
@@aymodaslacker8852 If you head over to pokemon showdown. You can try it out. You can make some very good combos. It changes the meta and is a better experience imo
@Blade-hf9po
4 жыл бұрын
5:08. I love this. Used to play like this back in Gen 4. Only half the team was of the gym type, it was awesome. Incredibly versatile teams every time.
@sigro95
4 жыл бұрын
Singles battles can be hard as well, but it requires a much more advanced AI since Singles requires a higher amount of planning and a lot of switching. Doubles is much more reliant of team synergy/composition and switching is harder because you can get that pokemon you just switched hit twice in a turn.
@Ditidos
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think gyms should remain monotypes mostly. Al least for the new players coming in so that they can learn type mach ups well enough. I can pass the eight gym not being a monotype, though. What shouldn't be monotype are the elite four or the equivalent in said game, after all, by that point new players should have learned the type mach up and will be ready for more challenging stuff and it bridges the gap between the battle facilities of each game and the main history by including more viable teams in the Pokémon League (in order to not have such a huge diferente in design with the post-game content being so directed to experienced players that it alienates new oness who don't know that stuff).
@zyella277
4 жыл бұрын
gyms should stay monotype but use coverage and dual types aswell(like a water gym having a quaqsire/swampert/whiscash to defend against electric) or like flint frolm plaitnums E4 having solarbeam,thunderboly and thunderpunch on his fire time aswell as sunny day and earthquake
@MagillanicaLouM
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the general idea of the video. Especially the thing about gym types, I personally wouldn't like if they did away with basing the gyms around types, they should just allow other Pokémon that fit the gyms theme to be in there too, with a signature strategies like Raihan. Also i think your team for Tate and Liza must have been a terrible matchup or something, I ran through them back when I played emerald lol. Hardest gyms for me there were Brawly, Norman, Winona, and Juan
@zwill6839
4 жыл бұрын
Do they need more double battles? Yes, especially for a few bosses. But doing the whole game as double battles may be a bit much. There a tons of ways that the game could be more difficult, and double battles would be a way to do that, but most trainers would not be quite as prepared for double battles as Raihan or Tate&Liza. Still, great idea altogether
@alextygesen3101
3 жыл бұрын
No, everything needs to be doubles. The entire point of making doubles the new standard is to introduce variety into the game. The current game is literally just “Spam good move”. It is braindead and can barely be considered a game. If only gyms are doubles then you’re not escaping this garbage gameplay inbetween. Instead, make wild battles single and trainers double. Have EVERY trainer encounter have some sort of underlying gameplan. One starting trainer could have a Weedle spamming String Shot and a Pikachu spamming Electro Ball. Then in the later stages, have some advanced combos and strategies. Singles are terrible and it’s about time people realize this and stop thinking that it is good gameplay.
@vgcreviews8277
2 жыл бұрын
@@alextygesen3101 agreed. Singles is so boring, and I think the only reason why people play it more is because they never tried VGC or they couldn't figure it out in 10 minutes and gave up.
@Nameless_mixes
4 жыл бұрын
I think Tate/Liza was a double battle because Gen III introduced double battles so they wanted to better include the mechanic. Then in Gen VIII they included double battles in Raihan’s gym because they wanted to bring more attention to VGC (which you mentioned). So idk if having doubles is the solution. I do agree with the gym types mechanic needing to be revised. Pokemon keeps trying these battle mechanics (megas, z moves, dynamax, etc.) when they don’t need to think that far outside of the box. I think it’s the fanmade game Pokemon Insurgence or Rejuvenation where gyms are based on themes. Like there’s a forest gym that focuses on Grass/Bug pokemon as opposed to a monotype team. I think integrating new ideas like that would be a much better way of making the games interesting instead of broken battling mechanics like Dynamax that makes the games really boring since there’s almost no strategy to that.
@deesk02
4 жыл бұрын
I love doubles because of the strategies you can come up with. Heck skill sway and speed swap are some of my favorite moves because of what you can do.
@jaernihiltheus7817
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In Emerald's Norman rematches, he uses a Skill Swap Blissey + Slaking wombo combo on you. His Blissey gives his Slaking her Serene Grace while getting rid of Slaking's Truant. Then on the 3rd turn (assuming his Blissey is still alive), he'll usually try and pass Truant onto one of your pokemon. IIRC he also had a Psych Up + Swagger strat somewhere in there but that might've been a different Gym Leader rematch.
@kentmcgowan4237
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I agree that we need to go to having all the major battles be doubles, but I would like to see more variety. Keep some singles, especially in the early game, make some doubles, some triples some rotations, etc. Maybe make the champion fight no-items(except held items). All of any one style gets repetitive in a playthrough, so let's mix it up. Really force me to tailor my team and their moves for each unique challenge.
@randomedgygamer2191
4 жыл бұрын
Its much easier to lvl up and/or ev train, so the in game thing should be tougher too
@jbcatz5
4 жыл бұрын
I want to see a return of the Inverse Battles. It challenges your muscle memory for type matchups but doesn’t present the system issues triple or rotating battles did in Gen V (and which were dropped because of the strain on the systems). But it never got past limited use in Gen VI (a single NCP in a late game route in X and Y who can only be fought once a day).
@Brad-Ley
4 жыл бұрын
I personally thought rotation battles were really fun in all honesty. You really had to have good prediction luck as well as always have a plan B.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
4 жыл бұрын
triple battles
@robertlupa8273
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we need more Inverse Battles!
@naturalharmoniagropius4486
4 жыл бұрын
3:48 there was a TM for Giga Drain below Mt. Pyre, why not use it to replace Absorb?
@Idranim
2 жыл бұрын
Raihans gym is my favorite gym I don’t care what anyone says doubles should be the way the games go they are way more engaging have a lot of different approaches and allows for a lot more team synergies instead of having 6 Pokémon with the cover 90% of the game and you never swap Pokémon at least with doubles you can have multiple forms a team. I also think that game freak should just take out the battle types and default it to set. This way battle aren’t the game telling you “enemy switching to haunted will you switch Pokémon” it literally gives a free counter and removed all strategy from the game.
@WorldWideMusic2000
3 жыл бұрын
I asked my DS/3DS/SWITCH why there aren't more double battles... they lagged so much I couldn't see the answer
@HiroshiKoto
4 жыл бұрын
Gen 3 definitely made double battles feel more intense then now, it has always been a cool feature to participate in and remain consistent. Although I really do wonder why triple battles haven’t made a return since gen 5 and 6? Hopfully they it bring it back to have more option to experience again.
@elemomnialpha
4 жыл бұрын
Double battles for important trainer battles Raid battles for important Pokemon battles And Gamefreak seems to have predicted this video and preempted it
@dsoymz5891
4 жыл бұрын
Intro: Name? Ok,_____, easy,medium,hard? Great! Single or double? Welcome to the world of pokemon...... Also, Toggle in option menu.
@Brad-Ley
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one interested in a difficulty setting.
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this in another comment but making two separate teams for doubles and singles is not worth the workload. Instead having an increased amount of double battles and then just a difficulty setting would prove better.
@beans3665
3 жыл бұрын
“Doubles is the future!” Sounds like something out of Gen 3 lol
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
A NATIONS STRENGTH. The actual Combined Level or Power or Something of a Pokemon-Region and therefore its actual theoretical Military Might: This is literally something i see non-covered by all of the Poke-Tubers. What about Poke-Goverments overall!? Theres soooo much to ask aka cover here. So much. What does it all mean? Who is who and what is what?
@KBG224
3 жыл бұрын
love your intro never gets old
@pippomaneful
4 жыл бұрын
I think they're going into that direction, iirc the last trailer showed doubles battles in the pokemon league.
@ac1dfoxdie716
4 жыл бұрын
Can we sent this video to no tendon . This is all much needed and true
@CabbageYippee
4 жыл бұрын
Sooooo jpr You excited for the Galarian Star tournament, I think it can be a good feature, especially if they make it a battle facility meaning it would have competent AI
@darkrain491
3 жыл бұрын
I just started playing radical red I now want the radical red treatment for all pokemon games - I think it should be a new game + option
@dhshahe1919
4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the star league. Its a double battle tournament that will take place after u complete crown tundra
@HyouVizer
4 жыл бұрын
so thats what was shown in trailer 🤔
4 жыл бұрын
My Tate & Liza battle strat: Swampert surf Hey, I win
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
What about Poke-Goverments overall!? Theres soooo much to ask aka cover here. So much. And what about their actual Military? Including the 'civilians' of the Region? How much force can they muster up, when it comes to Pokemon-Trainer? Who stacks up against which other Region? What does it all mean? Who is who and what is what?
@Andrewtr6
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with so many points you made. I think type based gyms should be retired and gyms could have themes like route 1 pokemon (the gym uses pkmn found on route 1. It would be the 1st gym) or pokemon found in caves (one trainer in the gym has 4 zubat. Every trainer has at least one zubat. The gym leader has a Golbat) or the theme could be pokemon that levitate or fly... don't bring a ground type basically. I would also like to see more double battles throughout the game just not through the whole game. Not every gym leader should be a double battle. Maybe start it off with 2 or 3 gyms being double and the others being single or optional. Then, in the future, it can fluctuate. They could also bring back those rotation battles that were a thing in Black and White; I don't remember how people felt about them. Another change that could be made is a middle area between Sun and Moon and normal gyms. I think some ppl were glad to move away from gyms but others disliked it. I was glad to see a change in the formula but when gyms didn't show up at all, that left me disappointed. I think a new system combining aspects of both could add to the games. The trainer AIs being able to switch in and out pokemon would also make battles more difficult.
@Wepospalient
4 жыл бұрын
Double and triple battles are so much more fun and dynamic. There's so many more variables to play with, so many different strengths to play to, so many different strategies you can use, so many silly gimmicks you can pull off. Single battles feel so much more flat and stagnant in comparison.
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
Underused indeed. But Theme-based Gym-Leaders are way harder Underused. Cause they should be a Thing for YEARS now, but still arent. Its intensely problematic.
@NixienireRVS
4 жыл бұрын
I miss triple and rotation. Those are quite fun.
@jackcorbett937
4 жыл бұрын
Anyway JPRPokeTrainer98 if we get Gen 4 remakes next year (2021) I'm sure we'll get a lot more Double Battles as we did have a lot back when we all first played Pokémon Diamond, Pokémon Pearl and Pokémon Platinum.
@rockinrobin9093
3 жыл бұрын
If they want to keep singles for main game, just incorporate a smarter AI so they switch they’re Pokémon out when in danger and not have the text of which Pokémon the opponent is about to send out
@JoseLopez-qt2fx
3 жыл бұрын
You can turn off the text lol
@zjzr08
4 жыл бұрын
I think balancing the number of single and double battles could be interesting -- Emerald-Gen 5 I think did that to a degree.
@unwithering5313
4 жыл бұрын
Even a drunk guy would say that I agree with this
@ProfDragonite
4 жыл бұрын
Double Battles are the only way I enjoy Pokemon. The Galarian Star Tournament in the DLC has me...intrigued.
@SFred104
4 жыл бұрын
You should look up Pokemon Reborn when it comes down to difficulty, although the game MAY be too difficult but they seems to work on a difficulty setting for the next biggest episode.
@gamelotti
4 жыл бұрын
reborn's system would work in a official pokemon game if you just allowed over leveling and the first 3 or 4 gym leaders don't have a full team, that way you could grind yourself to reach the end story if the fights prove too difficult and you are not forced to use "bad" pokemon at the start of the game.
@octolockg5059
3 жыл бұрын
Hoenn has an over-reliance on Water HM's and most of the good Water-types are after you get numerous badges.
@thanthtooaung4401
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer rotation battles because you have to think what will you face against and set up strategy. Despite of single battle based moob.
@45yees25
4 жыл бұрын
JPR: This is the hardest battle in pokemon history Me with my banette and crobat with bite
@_a_random_muffin_
3 жыл бұрын
*sees title of the video* Me (Who is already a double battle enthusiast): I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING UP TO SUPPORT YOUR POINT BUT *Y E S*
@kingnosy271
4 жыл бұрын
making every important battle a double battle might not be a good idea for new comers or people who just want a casual play through HOWEVER if they could add a single or double mode priority setting to the story mode that'd be fire
@B_A-tr
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah doubles allow more tactics. Ive build a double team around activating crabominables ability and getting it to plus six attack to sweep the opponent
@insanemakaioshin
4 жыл бұрын
On his livestream, Tekking101 said that Rihan was the easiest gym for him to beat!
@nihili4196
3 жыл бұрын
I also found Rihan to be quite easy. The only surprising thing about his gym that gave me any troubles was his Duralodon that I was sure is dragon. But that's nothing Cinderace can't deal with.
@kiddextersgodlyadventure129
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much agree on everything here. I’ve been thinking the same thing for a while. They need to change up the formula
@haruhisuzumiya6650
4 жыл бұрын
pokemons competitor is a game that has a al out attack as a win button. persona is now pokemons rival.
@Pownchao
4 жыл бұрын
My first Pokémon game was XD Gale of Darkness, so going to into the main games I was a little confused. As I actually grew to understand competitive pokémon, I noticed how often people used the doubles format and wondered why the main games weren't like Colosseum and XD. Gym leaders in future titles could use teams based off of more than just a single type. They could have teams based off gimmicky abilities and stat buffs. Or they could have teams that have a cat or turtle theme since there are multiples of those.
@doodlebug6833
3 жыл бұрын
Welp i haven't done any number crunching or googling but in 2020 i played both 3rd and 4th gen and platinum landslides emerald in doubles *it seems*. with all the main story doubles in platinum seems like more than all of hoenn combined in trainers and gyms/story. But i could be entirely wrong on how doubles are. Classified in this video because in platinum you double battle with another NPC as your partner
@JelloImpact
3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Doubles is amazing
@Dahxelb
4 жыл бұрын
I actually do NOT want them to get rid of mono-type gyms. Call me a traditionalist, but I actually don't want that to change. Having mono-type gyms serves several purposes. It acts as a tutorial for new players, and incentives using pokémon of different types than what you might usually use. That being said, I definitely think they should make better jobs giving gym leaders mono-type teams that actually have internal synergy with their pokémons' secondary typings. No gym leader should have a team full of pokémon with only the gyms type as their typing. So no team full of just pure grass types. Instead have a team with dual types that covers different grass weaknesses. And definitely allow gym leaders to have pokémon with move-sets with some coverage, especially covering common weaknesses of their gym type. So even if it's a mono-type gym, the gym leader should still have 5+ different types that works well with their central main typing, with even more offensive options than that. The Elite Four However... I see little reason to have them be type themed. They're supposed to be the elite, and as elites, they definitely should have the strategical knowledge to know that building teams of multiple types for coverage is the way to go. I'd love to see an elite four with maybe 2-3 central types that each of their party has and is build around, + secondary typings to cover their weaknesses. So each elite member still have their theme to them to make them memorable. And Of course the Champion should follow in the footsteps of the likes such as Blue & Cynthia and have well-rounded teams of diverse and varied types.
@Wellshem
2 жыл бұрын
Glad that I am not alone
@AudioGAWD
4 жыл бұрын
I washed Liza & Tate everytime lol Shadow Ball Absol for the win, overkill with Swords Dance
@squidlytv
4 жыл бұрын
For one second I was confused but then I had to remember the physical special split in gen 4.
@joaquinoking
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer single battles but I would say There are a lot more strategies in doubles which makes it more fun
@unwithering5313
3 жыл бұрын
Hail Yes there needs to be more double battles (and advanced AI) in future Pokemon games, that would be awesome I think the main series' issues are that it is too uniform (the Lawful Stupid D&D alignment if I may) and the fact it doesn't get enough time to be developed properly
@ShadowLightMewEndlessOceanMew
4 жыл бұрын
They did hear us Double Battle fans at least since we are getting more Double Battle action later this year :)
@Nate-ll4do
4 жыл бұрын
As a FILTHY CASUAL, this video is very interesting to me. I never knew Double Battles were as deep as they were, and if there's so much potential behind them, I don't see why they shouldn't take advantage of that into the base game. It's definitely a way to spice things up without changing things too drastically.
@cartergamegeek
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of doubles can be cool but sadly a lot of people fall into the same bulky redirection teams. That is the most common thing. People can get creative but i feel to much of doubles is down to needing good redirection that kind of thing has very few counters and you see a lot of redirection in most doubles matches. It's so helpful but it becomes so common you always see it and that can get kind of old. Even i can admit to redirection in doubles as the help it offers is good but i feel it's a bit to good.
@cartergamegeek
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of doubles can be cool but sadly a lot of people fall into the same bulky redirection teams. That is the most common thing. People can get creative but i feel to much of doubles is down to needing good redirection that kind of thing has very few counters and you see a lot of redirection in most doubles matches. It's so helpful but it becomes so common you always see it and that can get kind of old. Even i can admit to redirection in doubles as the help it offers is good but i feel it's a bit to good.
@BigMastah79
4 жыл бұрын
Y’all sleeping on Triples
@Chucklecheese69
3 жыл бұрын
This video is Subjective
@DarkAnomaly
3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind Double Battles but I'll always prefer Single Battles though. Triple Battles were interesting and honestly it was a shame they disappeared after Gen 6.
@CaylasCapsule
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine 6v6, though. That would be crazy challenging and much more realistic, especially against the evil team. Why would the evil team follow league rules when they’re already breaking the law pretty much all the time?
@pinnacull
4 жыл бұрын
A modern full double battle game with a good story like gen 5 and a great atmosphere similar to colosseum would be the first good pokemon game in 8 years.
@pepito69
3 жыл бұрын
Castform is broken, it made wonder why my one inch wonder was raising when I first encountered it
@Brad-Ley
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your rant, but I have 2 more points to add: 1. Since you speak of gyms, why can't we as the player choose to accept a major plot twist opportunity and (EX: Join/run a gym after defeating current leader), or let alone do it after 100% completing the game. 2. As a side point (For veterans especially) there should be a difficulty option for making a challenge for veteran players (EX: Smarter trainers, multiplied EXP to level up, etc.) I think if these 2 things are considered then it would be great for veteran players (Such as myself), but if these points are not considered, then I at least expect more than just Shiny hunting, competitive battling, and doing a rematch against the E4/Champion. That is, at least if the devs have any sympathy for veterans that want a "challenge" or "variety".
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