This made me sad for the world. Not being able to share cultural moments together is such a huge loss for everyone.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
It could be a while before we get to that point but it’s certainly heading in that direction
@AmoMe2009
Жыл бұрын
It’s quite depressing especially when Jonny Harvey said how when we were bored back then we would use our imagination and tools around us and now today’s society has the apps at the finger-tips to pass the time. 🤯😣
@rebymunster
Жыл бұрын
Yes! This messaging on the video caused me to reflect on how much access to tech my own kid has. Us parents need to keep them bored as long as we can 😅 it’ll do them good!
@authentictalkpodcast
Жыл бұрын
humanity had a good run...don't be sad it's over... be happy that it happened.
@lordsxman
Жыл бұрын
Pivotal cultural moments are still happening in music. Last year Beyonce's Renaissance album made a huge impact on black ball room audiences. Also, this year Taylor Swift's Eras tour has been so huge she's been dubbed "Queen of the White Women."
@prophet1196
Жыл бұрын
The problem why pop is declining is that we have less creative individuals in the music field so they often cop on making music that is with the “trend” but the problem of our generation is that there is too many trends happening all at once so we don’t have a trend that which will be the blueprint of the 2020s, like they did with the 90s sounds etc etc…A lot of bedroom producers are immensely lazy when producing groundbreaking beats because now we have music software we became more lazy and using less of of them creative mindset. So artists now rely on scandals instead of the song being a hit and being promoted etc
@ncamara670
Жыл бұрын
'Artists now rely on scandals instead of a song being a hit'. THIS
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Interesting take. Thanks. The fragmentation of the media facilitates all these different styles & trends so there won’t be one or two dominant ones anymore. Very true
@NJGuy1973
11 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey As "Todd In The Shadows" put it, songs don't matter to the extent that they're played anymore. They matter to the extent that they get talked about.
@orlock20
11 ай бұрын
The creativity is there, but it takes a lot of money to make somebody a superstar. When Beyonce was most popular, $3 million per album and $1 million per single was spent on promotion. Even current Beyonce couldn't recover that much money now.
@NJGuy1973
11 ай бұрын
@@ncamara670People don't pay for music like they used to, so music can only matter in a sociological sense.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
Жыл бұрын
Around 2016, I started to find the music become insufferable to listen to. There were a few tracks here and there, but the genre was shifting from upbeat to minimal and monotone. It was like after 2016 everybody stopped trying. With today’s pop, there’s about one, two, maybe three tracks that I’ll like and the rest I don’t ever want to listen to to ever again. Everybody got this #quirky or #relatable vibe to themselves now, but they come off as either try - hard, boring, or forgettable. Toothless and faceless.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
Жыл бұрын
I’ve, also, been having a hard time finding music that stuck with me after about two weeks or a month. Anytime I listened to something, I would like it for about a few weeks to a month before it grew down on me.
@AmoMe2009
Жыл бұрын
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 I agree. I can’t stand the quirky acts or the monotone music. I think I’m just getting old. I’ll leave tiktok and these new artists to these youth. They can have it. I haven’t enjoyed pop at all since 2008, anyway.
@Dfranco4ever
Жыл бұрын
So agreed with you but from 2012 I think my last album was 2011
@yomama9114
Жыл бұрын
Pop music for me has been insufferable since 2013. It got REALLY bad 2015-2018 with a few exceptions. Pop music has gotten a bit better, but it’s still pretty soulless.
@jalapeno1119
Жыл бұрын
Well, art is usually a reflection of society's current state of affairs.
@iAmElectroPopTart
Жыл бұрын
I knew iconic pop was in trouble when I realized there is no “pop girl of the moment” a few years ago. Every pop star is is an elder now.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
thank you - everyone seems to have completely missed that point! Taylor has been around for 15 yrs. Beyonce is an old timer- she started 25 yrs ago.
@orlock20
11 ай бұрын
Angelina Jordan is in development. Her audience is probably greying though.
@dennisgonzalez7962
10 ай бұрын
@@orlock20who?
@orlock20
10 ай бұрын
@@dennisgonzalez7962 She is an Amy Winehouse type of singer without the drugs. She has millions of views on KZitem. Her original song has 3.3 million views on KZitem in 6 months. She is 17 years-old.
@joshevanoni1193
10 ай бұрын
Tyla is the new pop gir
@Ruinwyn
Жыл бұрын
I think one problem is that a lot of labels are ignoring the adult demographic entirely. Yes, the big push in new stars is always the youth, but for act to really become a big star, they also need the adults. Adults are the ones that actually pay money and but also require the music to stand on its own. They are also happy to keep supporting their old favourites if no-one new comes along. Nirvana, Backstreet Boys, Lady Gaga, all had also lot of support from 30+ year olds.
@ncamara670
Жыл бұрын
Great point. They somehow overlook that the generation Z has a lot smaller spending power than those who were in their 20s a decade ago.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
This is a great point. Very true. Not all music consumers are obsessed with Tik-Tok. Where are the more mature adult contemporary artists?
@dhenderson1810
Жыл бұрын
I have a theory which is backed up with research. Youth are always the target demographic because they are more naive and gullible, so can be manipulated more easily. They also are often frivolous with money, and will spend to keep up with trends. Adults are more discerning, less gullible and will buy something once, and then buy it again for a long time, as they buy for need or if they can afford it. Kids will constantly buy new things, because they aren't spending their own money, and want the latest sneakers, clothes, music, whatever to be cool and fit into their peer group, and since they are also fickle, they change fads every other week, so spend much more. Advertisers love young people, because they get a lot of return customers and people more suspectible to their BS, whereas adults see through advertisers and promoters, and know what they are really about. Throughout history this has happened. Cults, political parties, even social media bombard the youth, because they are easier to deceive and less questioning.
@ncamara670
Жыл бұрын
@@dhenderson1810 While that is valid, times are also changing. There have been many controversies around social networks, particularly TikTok. In some countries with huge markets it got banned and there are plans to have it more regulated, particularly to protect kids. So, they may find themselves in a tricky place in a few years.
@gnu_andrew
11 ай бұрын
Yes. When I was a kid, the charts would have stuff that was clearly popular with the teens, but also rave music from the clubbers in their 20s, ballads for the grannies and the Teletubbies for the little ones. It was diverse because pretty much everyone was represented. Now it all happens in its own little self-consuming bubble of Spotify & TikTok where only those who spend time on these platforms (mostly Gen Z) are aware of what's going on there. Older generations, and those in Gen Z who aren't interested, can quite easily just ignore the whole thing these days. Back in the 90s, even my dad who has never been into music knew who the Spice Girls were. It would be interesting to do a survey of the 40+ demographic these days and see how many artists established from 2010 on they know.
@davidbrixton6955
Жыл бұрын
There once was a level of mystery and mystique surrounding artists 🎨 but people these days want to reveal everything all at once 😂😅😂
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
That’s apparently what people want these days. Really accessible stars
@intrstxllr
Жыл бұрын
people want relatability and accesebility now
@ncamara670
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharveyA lot of those who made themselves accessible came to regret it afterwards. Stan fandoms, stalking, mental health concerns, the list goes on.
@TheTDA
11 ай бұрын
Powerful point
@laurabianca-pruett
11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think that artists being more transparent about fame has made it less appealing. For example, Taylor Swift is “too big to hang out” and that sounds like hell to me. She can’t go to her producer’s wedding without thousands of people showing up in the hopes that they get to see her in person for two seconds.
@yomama9114
Жыл бұрын
I watched the VMAs last night and I didn’t care about anybody there. The music was mid. I hadn’t heard of a lot of the artists or their music. It was very bland, down to the winners of the categories. Pop music died in 2013.
@JLX1373
Жыл бұрын
you can just say it's "bad" - "mid" doesn't mean bad. it means it's just neutral. if you're saying pop music died in 2013 then just say it's bad
@yomama9114
Жыл бұрын
@@JLX1373 ok it’s bad
@manuelsaldivar01
Жыл бұрын
From what I saw the only performance that was decent was Shakira, I didn’t care for the others 🤷🏻♂️
@yomama9114
Жыл бұрын
@@manuelsaldivar01 it was phenomenal but she lip synced the whole time + she did the exact same soundtrack from her half time show at one point :/
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
Жыл бұрын
You sound like a bitter person absorbed by Nostalgia. It was actually good. Y’all are so absorbed by nostalgia that y’all miss moments right in front of you.
@Droorogers
Жыл бұрын
I despise TikTok with every inch of my tired, aching 37 year old body.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I'm the same age- I really like it (but not what it is doing to the music industry). I love the comedy and cat and dog videos.
@PrincessPowerranger
Жыл бұрын
My 34 year old tired self also never really got it to it, but hey each to their own😅❤
@fruityloops2073
11 ай бұрын
my tired aching 34 year old body can't even bothersome to watch a single episode of a show on television.
@paulanerruhrpott6188
11 ай бұрын
Tik Tok is Skynet in Disguise. It will eventually lead to our doom!
@viajandocasigratis
11 ай бұрын
@@fruityloops2073my 38 year old body finds tiktok addicting and disgusting at the same time 😮
@frankrodriguez9081
Жыл бұрын
I truly miss Michael Jackson, Lady Gaga, Tina Turner
@flazeda8743
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Gaga's busy with Joker 2 and her make up line but I hope she'll go back to pop soon, her tour last year was incredible!
@Sapphire901
Жыл бұрын
@@flazeda8743 Gaga just released music with The Rolling Stones and Stevie Wonder 🎉❤
@flazeda8743
Жыл бұрын
@@Sapphire901 And the song's amazing imo! 😁 What surprised me is folks saying they're surprised she can do it well with the stones just like when some were shocked by the Bennett collab... When will they stop underestimate her? 😅
@TyeArtisik
Жыл бұрын
I miss MJ 😢
@maccagrabme
11 ай бұрын
Can't honestly say I've ever heard a gaga track as I had her down as illuminati, corporate controlled fake music but will have a listen. She can't possibly compare with Stevie Wonder or MJ.
@auramonroe6966
Жыл бұрын
"people miss singing, it's time to bring singing back" -Whitney Houston
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Amen Whitney
@Sttephy30
Жыл бұрын
There's many great singers today, but you guys don't support their music.
@pelayo341
5 ай бұрын
no. ariana can sing, she still has meh music, cannot dance, doesnt have style. i prefer a britney that lipsyncs but puts on a show that we are in desperate need of, over a vocalist any day
@jakepark3272
Жыл бұрын
Kylie Minogue is one of the last few pop superstars who is still making genuine pop music.
@dojmir
Жыл бұрын
YUP
@trackmasters65
Жыл бұрын
...Madonna?
@flazeda8743
Жыл бұрын
Gaga, Kylie and Madonna all still do imo.
@boymickeyboy
Жыл бұрын
Kylie never was a superstar. Just Madonna, Whitney & MJ
@dojmir
Жыл бұрын
y’all sound slow in the replies LMFAO is madonna coming out with an album with top 20 hit singles right now? no kylie minogue is
@coursecorrection4105
Жыл бұрын
Going back, artists had to spend years performing, not just studying music, to make it. They played in clubs, and local areas for years honing their craft. MJ was performing in night clubs in Chicago, NYC, Detroit and elsewhere before he was signed to Motown. Madonna performed in NYC club scene. Even Britney spent years performing in the Mickey Mouse club. They had to actually perform before becoming a big recording store. This was important to uplift people with star power and to hone skillls, audience awareness etc. there’s not an active club scene to allow people to work out their talent for no cost at the club level. We need to bring back performance spaces
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
yes that grassroots performing was so important in building up their stage craft.
@Anderson_LS
11 ай бұрын
You can find thousands of talented artists on KZitem with millions of subscribers and hundreds of thousands of views. Instead of playing in clubs, artists are now growing up here on KZitem. Some have had their channels for 10+ years and you can watch how they grow up.
@oogskskfn
11 ай бұрын
@@Anderson_LSbut that doesn’t translate to the music business where money comes from live performance.
@txwtw
7 ай бұрын
@@oogskskfn EXACTLY
@filipepatriani9218
Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who got a little sad by this video. Times are certainly changing! I'm 34 and I had so much fun with music when I was a young kid (singing in the church choir, taking piano lessons and having a blast messing with synthesizers). I really hope creativity in general does not go away for the newer generations.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
yeah creativity is the lifeblood of the industry. I hope younger kids will still get involved in music.
@brandonbates9259
Жыл бұрын
Yep and it's tearin up my heart
@dominiquepowell3158
8 ай бұрын
Ikr but hopefully it doesn't dies.
@728huey
Жыл бұрын
Pop music will never die! But it does go through phases where it becomes huge and others where other genres eclipse it (acid/hippie rock in the late 1960's, disco and punk in the late 1970's, grunge and gangsta rap in the early and mid-1990's, trap music in 2016 thru 2021). Much of that is due to artist development, and right now the major record labels are extremely lazy in developing artists, instead going to buy catalog music to make a money grab. Right now Gen-Z needs its own wave of artists to represent their generation, just as Millennials had Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry in the 2010's, and the Backstreet Boys, "Nsync, and Britney Spears in the 2000's, Gex-X had Mariah Carey, Garth Brooks, Nirvana, and Tupac in the 1990's, and Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Duran Duran, and U2 in the 1980's.
@unorthodox4871
Жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part but I think you mean Gen-Z in later years as I am Gen-Z (born in 2002) and grew up listening to those artists you mentioned on the radio
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
Жыл бұрын
How did you forget Whitney?💀
@728huey
Жыл бұрын
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Sorry, I didn't forget her per se, but I was trying to make a point about generational waves of music without trying to write a novel.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I should have said in the video, when I said pop music, I meant all popular music. So that encompasses all different genres that are popular in the mainstream. It's not just pure pop that is in decline in the industry, it's popular music in general. Where is the Coldplay/Oasis/Artic Monkeys/Kings of Leon/Eminem/Nirvana/Adele/Beck etc etc for this generation? Back in the 90s the music scene was so exciting, there were new up and coming artists all the time. Today's industry has a huge shortage of talent in comparison.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
Жыл бұрын
@@unorthodox4871 Same. I grew up seeing Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, and Katy Perry grow into the stars we see today and I’m 22. It wasn’t just millennials who saw them blossom; there were a lot of us.
@RhapsodyHC
Жыл бұрын
Pop is truly on the decline. The only new and true pop star with a lot of star power is Dua Lipa. Olivia Rodrigo, Doja Cat, and Billie Eillish are pop too, but incorporate other genres in their music. Other new pop stars with potential like Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, etc remain underrated. And no one has reached the heights of Britney Spears, Madonna, Lady Gaga, etc. I wonder how the industry and culture will adapt.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
The Billboard article mentioned that record executives intend on signing more mid-sized artists to make up for the shortfall created by the lack of superstars.
@melisagalvalizi6982
Жыл бұрын
lady gaga is more thana pop star, and more versatile than the ones you mentioned
@dianasaetern
Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift ❤
@johngablesmith4671
Жыл бұрын
Cardi B is also pop. She’s successful.
@o.9428
Жыл бұрын
@@dianasaetern doesn't count. She's like folksy country music.
@homyce
Жыл бұрын
I am 47 years old, so I am probably ancient compared to people watching this video, and while my favorite music era is probably the 90s and early 2000s, I was genuinely able to enjoy new music and find a lot to listen to all the way up to around 2016 when things started to get real bad. I thought it was probably my age, but then I started to notice that everyone was saying the same!
@ColinsCity
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't your age, i started noticing the decline around 2014/2015 and i had started to ignore music being released because it was all starting to follow a very similar american style, i was actually surprised when the Disco trend picked up and started to bring more variety to music, i think it was great for breaking the shackles that the american labels had started imposing on artists.
@ncamara670
Жыл бұрын
It definitely wasn't the age. In 2015 I went to a concert of one of the artists I liked, who went to pop after doing indie. I wasn't aware of that, it was a spur of the moment decision to go. I was truly disappointed, everything was so tacky, including the visual presentation. I was not enjoying it much. There were maybe two songs I liked. Nowadays, you really have to dig to find something. Recently, I found a Spanish EP by Selena Gomez, which is finally (!) the type of music I like.
@jeremy_woods
11 ай бұрын
I'm close. 44 years old. 80's and 90's - def the 90's for me. So much was changing that decade. Best rock, best pop, best rap, it seemed like something great was always coming out. If i had to pinpoint it to any singular thing that devalued music - it'd be the smart phone but more specifically social media.
@sarizonana
11 ай бұрын
@@jeremy_woodsim in late 30s and music for me started to get really almost unlisteable since late 2010s. 2018 to be specific
@nicholashylton6857
11 ай бұрын
Another Gen-Xer here. I noticed the shift into mediocrity around that time too.
@Clinty727
Жыл бұрын
It’s not dying….people are nostalgic for it, but US artist aren’t making it. So people are turning to K-POP to get their fix, K-POP artist also go through years as a trainee.
@Patrick3183
Жыл бұрын
K pop is a slavery industry
@karisima6060
11 ай бұрын
K-POP hasn’t sounded good since 2018.
@mary-w7j1g
11 ай бұрын
But kpop has no longevity and is unmemorable. Their ghostwriters and producers are Americans hence looks all manufactured. It hasn't been able to grow, only occupying 2% of the world's music market. Also it's only relatable to teenagers who end up out growing it .
@karisima6060
11 ай бұрын
@@mary-w7j1g Exactly. I was a hardcore KPOP fan from the ages of 14-17, but i grew out of it quickly because it got repetitive and ultimately no longer sounds good. There’s a few older KPOP songs I like to listen to though.
@d3ly746
8 ай бұрын
you're better off mentioning jpop than something like kpop that only relies on western producers
@ickimadrasi8965
Жыл бұрын
Pop music has been dead for about ten years on, computer and lazy producers killed the music. When was the last time that you have heard any real drum on bass on any pop song, it is pure artifice
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone not use live instruments anymore?
@djgamecx9489
Жыл бұрын
Computer based production is not inherently bad but it has to be done RIGHT. The Weeknd is a great example of the correct way to do this. He uses computers to essentially create new instruments. Using his voice and running it through loopers, flangers, and arpeggiators to make new sounds, taking samples and retextualizing them into something completely different, layering various synths with these unique sounds, working with other producers for varied sound, etc. The WRONG way to do it is the way 90% of pop music seems to be doing it right now. Take famous song, shift tempo and pitch a bit, add instruments to change the genre (sometimes), and add lyrics. (examples of this include Memories by Maroon 5, I'm Good by David Guetta ft Bebe Rexha, and STAYING ALIVE by DJ Khaled ft Drake and Lil Baby)
@djgamecx9489
Жыл бұрын
granted, this point really only works if one intends on being a solo artist, it does NOT work if you're trying to do the work that's traditional of a band by yourself (if you're gonna do that, learn a bunch of instruments, record them, and mix it yourself)
@theahulkushwah
Жыл бұрын
Lana Del Rey regularly uses live instrumentation but she is an alternative artist not pop.
@markkilley2683
11 ай бұрын
This debate has been going on since the 80's A lot of great songs ere done by electronics/synths.
@zafnatpaneaj4992
Жыл бұрын
After watching your video I feel very lucky of living at the same time as the greatest artists were born, such as: Madonna, Michael Jackson, George Michael, Boy George, Cyndi Lauper, Whitney Houston and only few more. Especially from the 80s and 90s. I must say that "Music" is dying unfortunatelly. Great job Jonny...! Greetings from Buenos Aires
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Cheer - thank you 🤞
@rafaelsmith5737
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey 9:21 Are you aware that BTS isn't mainstream nor are they a Kpop band to begin with?
@rafaelsmith5737
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey 9:40 Of course BTS wouldn't be on the charts, half of them are on military right now so they no longer release music as a group.
@rafaelsmith5737
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey Honestly, I think you have huge misconception of what BTS is, and what's going on between BTS and the music industry. I bet you just think they're just a famous KPOP band who release generic pop songs that was formed by a big label with someone with huge money and then get supported by the Kpop Industry and Western Music Industry, which is they're big globally like One Direction, but just like 1D, they're hype is slowly disappearing. Little girls are no longer interested in them since they're getting old and there's now a lot of newer Kpop bands that can replace BTS like Stray Kids and New Jeans. If I didn't knew any better I would have believed this too. The music industry are actually quite lucky, the media has been downplaying BTS, Spotify filtering their streams in half, KZitem deleting millions of their views, then not giving them radio spins, deleting 90% of their sales so it won't be counted by Billboard. And that's just the beginning, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes. Anyways, that doesn't matter. BTS to begin with aren't Pop nor part of Kpop, nor do their fans compromise of Kpop fans and teenage girls. If it weren't for those misconceptions, BTS could have been way bigger.
@augustoantonioaguila99
11 ай бұрын
I love this video!!! Many of the music today don’t have any melody.
@riri9087
Жыл бұрын
We don't have any SUPERSTAR anymore like The Beatles , Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson status ! 💔
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Damn right
@rtothec1234
Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is theee popstar, except … I cannot name one of her songs.😅 Her image and love life is more popular than her actual music.
@rahuljoshi2728
Жыл бұрын
@@rtothec1234 shes the best selling artist of 21st century
@gnu_andrew
11 ай бұрын
@@rahuljoshi2728 well that just says how bad the 21st century is.
@Deborah-wv6jj
10 ай бұрын
@@rahuljoshi2728she is not, it’s rihana
@patrickzloch
Жыл бұрын
I miss times of real divas like MARIAH, WHITNEY or CELINE :(
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Same
@eddieg6436
Жыл бұрын
The 1980’s music was best. Duran Duran, Madonna, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Dead or Alive, Michael Jackson, Prince, Janet Jackson, The Smiths, ……….NOTHING can touch them!!!
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
yeah I agree with this. 80s and the 90s. How things have changed.
@zijun01
11 ай бұрын
I think one of the main differences is that during the 1980s, you also had fringe acts ranging from Laurie Anderson (avant-garde) to George Thorogood (blues rock) on major labels and getting some exposure on FM radio, MTV and network TV. Similarly, a lot of the artists you just mentioned weren't really in the mainstream until the broke through (after getting exposure). For example, I first heard Madonna on an indie campus radio. There are still a lot of musicians doing interesting things, but most of them get stuck at the up-and-coming-indie-artist phase and never get the exposure that would allow them to enjoy a 'Depeche Mode' level of success.
@maccagrabme
11 ай бұрын
50s, 60s, 70s can but most people here probably haven't heard much of it to be able to know. Modern Pop music has been destroyed, it's completely unlistenable now.
@HimeNoKuri
11 ай бұрын
Darn straight!
@stephintheatre6335
11 ай бұрын
Dont forget 70s disco so creative and very addictave to listen to, Michael Jackson, Bee Gees Donna Summer KC and the Sunshine Band Sister Sledge so many good artist.
@efficiencygaming3494
Жыл бұрын
The absolute state of modern pop music always gave off the impression that record labels are panicking. They're playing too safe, rehashing old sounds and musical tropes and not being adventurous enough to try and stand out. That's why all pop artists seem to sound the same these days (or at least try to). You can also see similar trends happening in other forms of entertainment such as movies and video games. It makes me sad, really. There was a time when pop music was fun and easily enjoyable by a wide audience. It's been many years since I could listen to a pop station and not feel sick. "Oh no, pop is dead, long live pop It died an ugly death by back-catalogue..."
@maccagrabme
11 ай бұрын
I haven't been able to listen to radio music for 25 years without feeling sick. I no longer like the sound or sight of it but still listen to many modern artists of various genres but there isn't really much about it that is up there with the 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s. Humans have changed and it's not in a good way.
@Samizouza
2 ай бұрын
Very uncreative these days
@frankrodriguez9081
Жыл бұрын
Last night VMAs awards were truly bland and boring
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I didn't see it
@marcusmiro7481
Жыл бұрын
Pop music isn't dying. Music is going through a revolution. I do agree the "big shared cultural moment" thing is going away, but pop music is going through a HUGE revolution that is ultimately the best thing possible for musical quality. It just isn't friendly with monoculture, which most of us older people are used to. Things will be fine tbh. That said, I do think the world is slowly and painfully collapsing, but that's just because those of us alive right now happen to be alive at an awkward time: We're on the downslope of the benefits of capitalism. All of the world's craziness is just a reflection of late stage capitalism.
@MegzLife
Жыл бұрын
yess i agree!! i doubt pop is dying as his title said, lol..but yeah it definitely going thru a moment or whatnot, aswel as other genres etc. Its just the times we live in now & with technology/social media..
@cowgirltheworld
Жыл бұрын
I think pop music is starting to become more.. segregated? if that makes sense
@AnnaliseQuentin
Жыл бұрын
People are just not ready to accept the evolution and diversity. A single artist doesn't necessarily have to be at the top- we can have different artists having their moments here and there. At last, some will stay, some will not.
@TimiTamminen
Жыл бұрын
Well said. As someone who grew up outside of the traditional anglosphere, I got to hear both massively popular english-speaking popstars & all sorts of great artistry of my native country that would never get any attention outside of its sphere of influence because of the language barrier & the lacking power/connections that are required to be noticed by the gatekeepers. Maybe it’s a European thing (since we have so many different languages & cultures concentrated within a continent) but I’ve always been incredibly frustrated by how much great music goes totally unheard & considered simply due to the barriers of language & business connections. Once in a blue moon, you’d get an exception to the rule that would be inspiring to witness, an artist singing in their native language & representing their native culture while simultaneously getting worldwide attention, but most of the time the unwritten rule has been that english-speaking artists from the anglosphere are the only artists to achieve worldwide fame & consideration for their musical greatness. Because of this, I’ve slowly grown to accept the gradual death of the monoculture because it was always an incredibly small, privileged group of people who got to participate in it in the first place. This doesn’t take away from the talents & the genius of many of these artists who did become worldwide icons (I’m a massive pophead myself) but it’s simply to acknowledge that even our most beloved pop stars have been marketed as products & that there is a lot more than just artistry/talent involved to make an artist break globally, namely the power of the elite executives & business people. As you aptly mentioned at the end, the gradual shift of this is a sign of the late stage capitalism at work: as the privileged few who were able to rise to the top have slowly accumulated all the power & the resources available, the rest are left fighting for crumbs in a world where there’s increasingly more competition. Internet has gradually shifted this attention away from the anglosphere’s pop dominance to the whole world, allowing anyone with a camera & an internet connection to join the crowd in search of fame & glory as well as allowing people from the other parts of the world to gain access to information that was previously unavailable to them. This sheer volume of new music & content has simply become so immense that it’s impossible to keep up with everything anymore which has led to these microcultures & fleeting trends, as well as the shortening of the content we consume. On top of this, many people are economically worse off than before which is why they have less time & energy to consume new art, resulting in the A-listers becoming even more powerful as people rely more & more on what is already familiar to them. All of this is truly a sign of the times, the late stage capitalism model becoming more & more unstable as more players enter the game while the privileged few have already gamed the system so that they control most of the power & the resources. Whenever I get a feeling of ‘missing the bygone time’ of the pop monoculture, I remind myself that this was a crafted illusion which only very few people were able to be part of while most of the world was never able to participate in the first place & suddenly I feel a lot less sad about it. The Tiktok-ification of culture is kind of sad because of how difficult it is for someone creating less explosive, more complex longer form content to break through, but I appreciate the fact that people who never had a chance to be heard before can finally have a voice, even if it doesn’t match the superstar power of these english-speaking pop titans. Hopefully we’ll find a way to cut through the sheer volume of information in the future to help more great artists from around the world to be discovered, but in the meantime it is what it is. The old era of illusions & ridiculous power imbalance is slowly vanishing in the music business, the future is more egalitarian & global, all of this is a representation of all of this.
@justanothercarol
Жыл бұрын
This is also the first time in human history where everyone around the world can instantly talk to anyone at any given time with the Internet and social media. Culture, communities, and regional uniqueness are slowly dying in favor of global digital niche communities
@PrincessPowerranger
Жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid and hearing someone say in the future everyone will have their moment of fame, i remember not knowing how this could be possible. Now i know, we live in area where it feels like everyone goes viral at some point
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
it pretty much has come true.
@mainsmain
11 ай бұрын
Andy Warhol
@Cindybabe99
11 ай бұрын
"In the future, everyone will have their 15 minutes of fame". - Andy Warhol
@keithmcduffie7182
Жыл бұрын
98% of the songs are "Ghost Written" by the same 10 people at the Labels, classified as "employees" so all intellectual property belongs to the Label for them to credit to whichever "Music Spokes model" they choose, undercutting any publishing royalties being paid to the "Artist". And should an Artist write their own material they're paid such a low royalty rate in their contract that they would barely see any real money should they manage to climb out of the Pit of Financial Debt their record company contractually throws them in. STAY INDEPENDENT!!!
@Johnnysmithy24
11 ай бұрын
The commodification of art is what killed it
@JericoJopio
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's no wonder why most pop artists from the 80's, 90's and the years from 2000-2015 remain iconic and viral even after their heyday. Their creativity and musical talent, in addition to publicity, helped them earn their place in the pop music industry; unfortunately, the advent of AI and easy-to-use music softwares meant that music production could be done without considering the talent of the musicians and the technical aspects of music composition and promotion. Also, music labels find it hard to promote music creations owing to a number of artists who can now produce and promote their music independently through TikTok and other platforms.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
yes the industry has far less power and influence now and monoculture is dissolving so the artists don't seem to make the same effort with their visual output. And there's just less talent coming through
@magiclover9346
11 ай бұрын
Listening to full albums and being a musician myself has brought me so much joy that it saddens me that my generation (MTV generation) will be the last to love the craft. The bliss of finally nailing that passage you've dedicated hours to practising in front of a crowd of people is something else.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
Yes it’s such a shame. But gen-zers (for the most part) are used to instant gratification & everything on demand ☹️
@elokin300
10 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey Honestly I don’t typically listen to full albums because I find my music from other people (mostly when someone makes an animatic/animation using the song since I spend a lot of time in art communities) but I have had a few bands where I got _really_ into their music and listened to full albums, and it was really gratifying!
@PianoHits
Жыл бұрын
i had a realisation - we are likely never going back either, imagine for example a big hit like Can't Get You Out Of My Head an exitinct song ? Or not knowing who Madonna was, sounds so strange to us but Generation Alpha are headed to be the most different thinking generation due to the technology culture shifts happening. They don't carry on the same pop culture torches that tied previous generations together. Johnny i think this topic would be a very interesting to cover at some point too because the culture shift of popular is plays a massive role by teens. I hope you Johnny or someone out there making videos on moments of pop culture will captivate them to times they didnt experience
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
thanks for that. Yes teenagers are key to the creation of popular culture. How technology has changed pop culture would be an interesting topic.
@jamesbarker2567
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I Just Fckign Hate This World And Matrix We,re In Today. Society. I Have Been Born 1991 In The Wrong Gnerartion For Some Reason????? And I have No Idea Yet What We Are Going To About It???????
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
Gen Z and Alpha need their own music because they need to.leave the old stuff the hell alone.
@noaheogawa
Жыл бұрын
The mainstream pop music in Japan also feels very stagnant. So many “new” songs sound like music from 15 years ago. I understand that record labels only wants to put out what they know will sell. Anything new and different is a risk not many wants to take. Japanese music was a lot more inventive and memorable when the economy was booming in the past. Also the current Kpop is like H&M of music. I enjoyed Kpop from late 2000’s and early 2010’s but now those record companies are putting out music so frequently that the songs sound alike and also forgettable. Mass producing music and forgetting them in a matter of few weeks like some seasonal outfit from H&M is sad.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
that's a really interesting insight. Thanks for this.
@fosminclorin
Жыл бұрын
Kpop sounds like the cringiest type of pop
@AnnaliseQuentin
Жыл бұрын
@@fosminclorin It is, with a few exceptions like BTS and recently there's this girl group called newjeans. There's a reason y kpop is not famous as a genre itself but only bcoz of BTS.
@erenyeagerist7681
Жыл бұрын
Japan is more notable for their ROCK than pop. I love listening to Japanese music. Japan is still inventive when it comes to rock. As for pop, Japan is the most creative in this genre than the rest of the world. I've been listening to various Japanese genres
@erenyeagerist7681
Жыл бұрын
@@AnnaliseQuentin bts sucks. They just copy from the west, Africa and Japan
@lordsxman
Жыл бұрын
Since the advent of social media, local radio and MTV have lost their gatekeeping power. Also I'm in my 40's so 95% of the music I listen to is "catalog." People my age love listening to 80's and 90's music cuz that's when we were youths. As you said there are so many more opions now people just don't have the attention span to keep up with the latest music every week. I know I don't.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
yes listening to the latest music is far less important
@laurabianca-pruett
11 ай бұрын
People have always been listening to catalog music. The difference now is that with streaming the record companies can now track which songs people are actually listening to. Before, they could only track what was purchased new, and that was a one time thing.
@kaunas888
5 ай бұрын
The problem is not a lack of good singers. The problem is a lack of good songs. Composing is the problem.
@jonnyharvey
5 ай бұрын
Songwriting is a real skill. It takes years to develop
@joshmaclean3179
Жыл бұрын
Physical media is dead. It was the lifeblood of music. It was amazing to have a tangible product, album artwork and covers, taking out that shiny disk or vinyl and indulging whilst you played it for the first time. You would part with your hard earned money for an album. Now no one pays for anything. Autotune is used in mass, making a synthetic experience. Songs are shorter (Under 3 minutes) because later generations have a shorter attention span and studies show they don't like the previous average length of a song 3:30 to 4:45 minutes. Lucky we have a back catalogue of great songs.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I guess a lot of ppl feel that way. Probably explains the huge success of catalogue music on streaming
@gnu_andrew
11 ай бұрын
60s and early 70s songs were mostly under the 3 minute mark, yet that's the era of the Beatles. I wouldn't use that as a measure of a decent song.
@RoyCoof
Жыл бұрын
Personally, pop isn't dead but took form and shape with other genres. It's ever-changing and flexible and can turn itself into another sound by mixing in influences and all.
@phillinsogood
Жыл бұрын
To me I feel like another reason why pop music is dying is because every is so lazy, bland or forgettable. It feels like every artist is sampling/ interpolating songs from previous decades or making songs that sound like different decades. There’s a big lack of talent, originality & overall showmanship. Nobody is really doing anything that hasn’t been done before
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
Maybe they're starting to run out of new ideas? There does seem to be an excessive use of sampling and interpolating in the last few years, definitely.
@phillinsogood
11 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey very much so and it’s fine just nothing new everyone is stuck in nostalgia
@d3ly746
8 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey Idk I still hear new shit everyday in jpop
@aiaimonkey9085
Жыл бұрын
I just feel like everything goes in phases, another golden era of pop was the 1960's. Those records by The Supremes, The Mamas & The Paaps, The Fifth Dimmension, Peter & Gordon, Stevie Wonder, The Association and Petula Clark are timeless. Even the pop of the earlier decade like Neil sedaka and Lesley Gore.
@stephenbanks5952
Жыл бұрын
Why did you miss out the biggest of them all? The Beatles!
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
but this isn't just an issue of music simply evolving into another style or phase. There is a very obvious dearth of new talent breaking through. And the music industry isn't sure how to break new talent and is at the mercy of a social network's algorithm (most of the time)
@aporue5893
5 ай бұрын
@@stephenbanks5952 paul is still here though,and ringo.
@stephenbanks5952
5 ай бұрын
@@aporue5893 I don't understand what you mean. By your reckoning they shouldn't mention people who are still here, so they shouldn't have mentioned The Supremes (Diana Ross is still here) and Stevie Wonder.
@Jsimm100
Жыл бұрын
Pop music died years ago, it's just most people are just catching up and realizing it. The music isn't the same and have the same appeal and feel, there are no more Pop Music "SUPERSTARS", only "STARS".
@Fucorii
Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is a pop superstar imo....
@Jsimm100
Жыл бұрын
@@Fucorii She is the exception not the rule tho
@Fucorii
Жыл бұрын
@@Jsimm100 true...
@auramonroe6966
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to come from an era where you'd go to a music store to purchase a cassette/CD single/album of your fave artists. Building on my CD collection made me an avid music lover.
@mcmacshalfilya
11 ай бұрын
Would you smell the album cover right after opening it? I KNOW YOU DID!!
@auramonroe6966
11 ай бұрын
@@mcmacshalfilya Lol! Sure did.
@mcmacshalfilya
11 ай бұрын
@@auramonroe6966 Before we close this exchange of words, I want to say this. I like your profile photo! 💌 Safe to assume that you are one of the most beautiful girls in the solar system☀😍💘
@chuggachuggachoochoo9440
6 ай бұрын
pop music isn’t really dying , mainstream pop is !! it’s really hard to find good pop artists , but if you look hard enough you can find them . Some good pop artists are rina sawayama, muna, chapell roan, allie x, caroline polacheck, the list goes on
@jonnyharvey
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for those suggestions. I will look those artists up.
@lonellfletcher
Жыл бұрын
There is still great music to be found, but it’s like specks in the desert they are so hard to find. Labels, apps, and streamers sell so much MEH music and underdeveloped artists and we accept them far too easily.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
People keep saying that. But should we have to going look for good music?
@lonellfletcher
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey we shouldn’t HAVE to, but that’s the current reality
@cowgirltheworld
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharveyyes?? that's how music has always worked
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
@@cowgirltheworld maybe I need to explore different platforms a bit more.
@heroncolby2842
11 ай бұрын
Regarding pop music. I honestly feel like im listening to robot's singing and not talented human Singer's. Everything is so overly produced and mixed so heavily with computers that the human emotional essence is being lost in the process. We need to go back to basics with music.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
yes - we need to hear some live instruments again. And proper songwriting.
@diegidiego5617
Жыл бұрын
Almost everything has been done already, which makes it a lot harder to stand out. Popstars like Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna etc. are very hard to follow
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
that's true. They covered so much ground.
@fanstastic83
Жыл бұрын
I don't really like any of recent pop stars. The ones I like aren't that big, for example, Robyn, Jessie Ware, Moyka, Astrid S etc. I am glad they have a chance to upload their music and release music in general and for me to be able to listen to it. Kylie is still going strong though, she just had a top 10 hit in UK, which is amazing. But I get what you mean. Luckily, we can choose what we listen to these days, because there is no MTV and nobody really listens to the radio anymore. P.S I don't want to sound like an old grandpa (I am turning 40 this year), but I only had TikTok for one day and found it stupid, so I deleted it. Just like all other social media.
@Patrick3183
Жыл бұрын
TikTok is owned by the Chinese communist party.
@marcusmiro7481
Жыл бұрын
I think a reduction in superstars is a good thing. I don't know many pop-aficionados that would want there to be LESS Roisin Murphys in the world, LESS Goldfrapps in the world. More mid-sized pop artists and less megastars is ultimately a good thing for musical quality.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I don't know- maybe? It would be nice to have a mix of the two.
@peaceful_chaos14
Жыл бұрын
We can all agree that Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Adele are the latest true pop superstars, and there hasn’t been anyone who has reached that level since. Sure artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Doja Cat, Billie Eilish, Dua Lipa might be big now, but their impact seems very compartmentalized compared to those ladies I mentioned from the early ‘10s. And also, this guy needs to give kpop a chance because we can see true pop superstars in kpop nowadays, and they also go through an extensive training period so they have the skills and talent to back up their popularity.
@eduardogavilanes4651
Жыл бұрын
What about Beyoncé? Your racism is showing. Stop downplaying that woman. And Katy Perry? 😂 her last 2 albums bombed badly.
@prismaticligh9391
Жыл бұрын
@@eduardogavilanes4651 They are not downplaying her, the artists aforementioned are the most "recent" as they debuted after her. And like her or not, you can't ignore Katy Perry's achievements and impact, her last 2 "flop" albums don't erase her huge success and iconic hits still known today. Such a shallow logic...
@marismm6405
Жыл бұрын
@@eduardogavilanes4651 nothing to do with racism. The person missed two big names (Rihanna and Beyonce)? Yes. But this does not make the argument less true.
@eduardogavilanes4651
Жыл бұрын
@@prismaticligh9391 but y’all call Beyoncé a flop for getting her first solo number one in 10 years. Make it make sense. Name any other artist that debuted in the late 90s that is still breaking records today. I’ll wait. Because she pretty much outlasted all her peers. (Ex: Britney, Xtina, P!nk, Ashanti etc). The fact that she is being compared to other artists today says a lot.
@mariotato8345
Жыл бұрын
Anyway all that people are shit if u compare with Madonna , Abba or Michael Jackson ,they were really the BEST pop acts in history
@dgemon3476
11 ай бұрын
A Gen-Z here, don't have a tiktok account, mainly listen to 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s rock, pop.
@WhatDoesCoreyThink
10 ай бұрын
You have great taste. That's a breath of fresh air to this 38 yr old.
@dgemon3476
10 ай бұрын
@@WhatDoesCoreyThink Thanks for the kind words man
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
Too many of your Gen are listening to that.
@dgemon3476
8 ай бұрын
@@W81Researcher Good to hear
@rEdf196
Жыл бұрын
As a kid back in the 1970’s watching vintage early 1960’s music videos of Bobby Vee, Fabian, Paul Anka ,Pat Boone. I was thinking thank goodness I didn’t have to live through that era. Today however it does feel like exactly, just that.
@godsin7299
Жыл бұрын
chuck berry, little richard, ray charles, that era was packed with talent in the early 60s
@elgonwilliams7624
Жыл бұрын
The Music Industry has virtually ignored independent artists and has dismissed Rock music as being a dead genre. Both have led to the decline in relevancy of the major award shows as they are systematically shut out of consideration. Even independent artists to manage to gain some attention from a major label and sign a contract are shoved aside unless they are Pop, Hip Hop, or Rap. What the industry in the US and UK has largely ignored is the development of underground fuson based in throwback Rock roots that brings in elements from Pop, Hip-Hop and Rap. This movement is strong in Latin America and Asia. One of the reasons for the popularity of catalog music is that the music 'buying/streaming' audience is looking for something more than the autotuned garbage foisted as Pop music. Younger folks are discovering past greats from the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. But seeing bands from those eras in live concert costs a small fortune, probably because of the expense of touring. Young people will and already are migrating to some of the newer artists who embrace Rock music. I believe this will continue into the near future and if the industry doesn't embrace this it will continue to decline and eventually fade away. Also, the old awards will fade away unless they open up to artists from the independent camp.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
Some really good points here. I think people still want to hear rock music - the record companies just aren't investing in it- they're not having the patience and developing the talent. And also many of those independent artists, with the right people behind them could crossover to more mainstream success (whilst maintaining their artistic integrity). Where does record companies today think so many of our music legends came from?
@idiedoof4339
Жыл бұрын
As Gen Z'er who likes every jazz related genre and has nothing to do with social media, I see this as an absolute win
@skyfitsheaven
Жыл бұрын
I don’t even think it has much to do with growing older , I’m 25 and ever since maybe 2016-2017 mainstream music has been so monotone and nowhere near as fun and alive as it used to be when i was a kid
@joerichardwad1645
Жыл бұрын
Pretty ironic that ABBA, a pop band from the 70s, is bigger than ever and sells out their own arena with an avatar show every weekend! 😳
@gnu_andrew
11 ай бұрын
Gen X (70s & 80s) are the money making generation right now. Lots of 80s stars dusting off their jackets and having another go too.
@roguephoenix
Жыл бұрын
what people don't realize is that pop is more than what they think it is. pop has made it's way through various other styles. plus the biggest acts right now are pop artists from korea. you can't say pop is dying when it's changing unless whoever wrote that doesn't know the difference
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? Popular music is certainly evolving, it always has done, that's a given. But simultaneously, it's also in serious decline. There is a gaping lack of new bands and superstars emerging. There was an article in Billboard from a few weeks ago (American trade magazine) which supports my thesis - it's not just my opinion.
@Patrick3183
Жыл бұрын
Korean pop SUCKS
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
Sorry but America does not care for BTS.
@melissaaltidor5147
8 ай бұрын
You are a 100% correct I still listen to you the artist that I grew up with and some newer artist and I say some with a S however I've also discovered K-Pop especially some of the programs that I will sense you such as a Blackpink recently as spot and red velvet I think those are my top 3 K-Pop girl groups that are killing the pop game right now
@Cardsmaster
11 ай бұрын
We really have to fight. Debasing art, fashion, music and movies will literally lead to the downfall of society.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
Culture definitely seems to be at a standstill - the arts are the only thing that keep a lot of ppl sane
@ShadowJinxXOX
Жыл бұрын
Compared to the Korean industry the one thing that we’re doing wrong in America is not having as much variety when it comes to the performances. Their artists prioritizing singing, dancing, rap, and showbiz (stage performance, hosting, variety shows, etc.) is what gives them that entertained edge and why our genre is dying out
@orlock20
11 ай бұрын
It's time tested such as with acts such as Menudo in the 1970s and the boy groups in the 1990s.
@archivesunset4214
11 ай бұрын
yeah as a kpop fan they don't sing live 99% of the time and the music itself isn't that good overall they prefer making a bunch of songs rapidly over taking time to produce memorable and good songs. also kpop idols rapping isn't good tbh it's very rare where u see a actually good kpop rapper
@maximilianosoto-kq5vi
10 ай бұрын
@@archivesunset4214 Groups like NCT, EXO, SHINee, NMIXX, TVXQ, mostly SM idols, have amazing LIVE vocals, a lot of american acts lipsync too, don´t act a fool. About the rapidly produced music, it depends on the company, more money = better producers = better music, hence why SM has arguably the best music out there, however, theres a lot of groups putting up GREAT music paired up with talented producers. TripleS is a great example, they can´t really sing, but their producers knows how to play up with that and still puts up great music. And yeah, rap in kpop tends to be cringy, but there's still great rappers on the scene: Mark from NCT, BTS rap line, SKZ rap line, Btob's ILHOON. etc
@nougat75
11 ай бұрын
I am a big pop music consumer and when I started to no longer be satisfied with the catalog offered by western pop music I became a kpop fan. There is a lot of groups, new songs released every week, and competition between groups forces them to constantly strive to be original and do their best. New Jeans "ETA", Purple Kiss "Sweet Juice" or Eunbi "The Flash" are one of my favorite songs of this year. I thought the downfall of western pop music would lead to the growth of kpop but it seems to not be happening and I don't really know how to explain it (even if I have a few ideas)
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
maybe I will have to do the same and start getting into Kpop?
@nightjaronthegate
11 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey Check out Korean artists IU and GFriend in my playlists. GFriend are now sadly disbanded but they had some of the best songs ever.
@ficnonnie6006
11 ай бұрын
I recommend Seventeen for a group with a varied catalog who writes and produces their own stuff (creative control), since I haven't seen them mentioned yet. I just fell down the kpop rabbit hole this year myself.
@jaidenamccarroll
11 ай бұрын
After 2020 music was never the same
@tommyz1082
11 ай бұрын
If pop music is dieing, then there will be nothing left. Good rap is mostly dead, rock is non existent, metal and punk is back to underground again, solo pop artists with they're 360 deals are what's left. Thanks music industry
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
maybe something positive and unexpected will happen!?!?
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
I feel like the healthy industry is affecting it. We need normal people again. Intimidation is no longer flattery. No one wants an overtalent.
@aporue5893
5 ай бұрын
we'll be stuck with lil pump forever daz:''more like my little pony!''
@MisterWhatWhat
Жыл бұрын
This makes me sad. I miss the days of the pop-Divas in music. I loathe TikTok with every fiber of my being.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I miss those days too. Everything must change I suppose.
@jamesbarker2567
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey Everything Must Change But Why????? I Really Dont Like Change
@Thebian100
Жыл бұрын
Pop music just means popular music. The style changes with the times but music being popular doesn't.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Yes but the health of popular music in general is in decline. There are hardly any new superstars or bands
@weilianlee9090
Жыл бұрын
I was a kid/teenager during the 1980s to mid-1990s. Looking back I can’t believe how lucky we were to have the music we did back then. I often wondered the same thing - what happened to the music of today?? I mean, really, WHAT HAPPENED? Music back then was so full of love, hope, dreams, beautiful feelings. And so catchy! And modern. Songs from the 1950’s-1960s would sound outdated in the 1980s but songs from the 1980s-1990s would not really sound outdated today. In fact, some of them would even sound downright futuristic today, some 30 years later. Songs like Rhythm Nation (Janet Jackson), Girlfriend (Pebbles), Vogue, Ray of Light, Don’t Tell Me (Madonna), Straight Up, Always On My Mind(Pet Shop Boys). The catchiness of the songs were incredible compared to today. Smooth Criminal (Michael Jackson), Faith (George Michael), U Can’t Touch This, The Look (Roxette). The magnificent anthems like Living On A Prayer (Bon Jovi), Sweet Child O Mine (Gun’s N Roses), High Enough (Damn Yankees). We had yearning songs like Glory of Love (Karate Kid), Forever Young ( Alphaville), Fields of Gold (Sting), Leave A Light On and Summer Rain (Belinda Carlisle). We had songs like Eternal Flame (Bangles), Hold On (Wilson Phillips), True Colors (Cyndi Lauper). We had songs like Power of Love (Jennifer Rush), All Out of Love and Making Love Out of Nothing At All (Air Supply). We had Alone and All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You by Heart. We had Total Eclipse of The Heart by Bonnie Tyler and What A Feeling by Irene Cara. And we haven’t even gotten to Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston yet! I mean they both emerged in the 1980s with iconic songs! Incredible! I Wanna Dance With Somebody, Saving All My Love For You, All At Once, The Greatest Love Of All, One Moment In Time, I Will Always Love You, Vision Of Love, Love Takes Time, Make It Happen, Emotions, Dreamlover, Hero, All I Want For Christmas Is You. And of course, Celine Dion also emerged during this time period. We had feel good songs like Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now (Starship) and Waiting For A Star To Fall (Boy Meets Girl). There are some good songs from the past ten years. But overall something is missing. The catchiness. The hope. The love. The magic. It’s missing.
@NJGuy1973
Жыл бұрын
I was a teenager then too. All those old songs hold great memories for me. Which is why I don't need any new songs. I can listen to Air Supply, Guns 'n Roses, and Marian Carey any time I want for practically nothing. You and I had to pay for music. We had to earn money, go to a store, and make consumer decisions regarding music. Teenagers today don't. They can just rip what they want whenever. And effort will not be made to create something that has no more value.
@swagmund_freud6669
Жыл бұрын
Look man, I'm a Gen Zer, born in 2004. 80s and 90s music sounds dated to me. Hell, 2015 music is starting to sound dated to me. There's plenty of good music out there, you just have to look past the pop charts and try to find music through other means.
@MathieuLLF
Жыл бұрын
@@swagmund_freud6669any decent music now is just a copy of what was big in the 60s through 90s
@gentlegiant5678
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredible! Great quality, great topics, and really good research! You're gonna blow up my friend!
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Cheers - thank you. Let’s hope so
@SecretWeapon62578
10 ай бұрын
As a musician and music lover who has some knowledge of how the industry works and has rejected most of what's currently mainstream in favor of other music I've sought out since the mid-90's or so, none of this really surprises me. The major record companies and media outlets that disseminate music (in the US in particular) did this to themselves via their own greed-driven stupidity over the course of several decades. One thing that severely damaged popular music that few people were aware of at the time (and even fewer seem to remember today) is how few companies have been allowed to own pretty much all of the major labels, radio stations and television stations in the US. In the 1970's, media ownership had not yet become nearly so consolidated, so radio stations actually had some degree of control over their own playlists, rather than having it all dictated to them by some uncaring megacorporation based at the opposite end of the country. Starting around the early 1980's, large corporations started buying up more and more media properties, and more and more mergers were allowed by the federal government, until most of the radio stations in America were owned by three or four companies who allowed stations less and less local control over what they played. Eventually, the music industry (a capitalist enterprise) began to behave more like what we were always told the Soviet economic system was like, where if potatoes are what is being sold this week, potatoes is what you're getting. The people who ran these companies as they kept getting bigger by gobbling up smaller companies clearly didn't do so to increase the quality and variety of music on the market. So once the few dominant companies had eliminated nearly all meaningful competition, they obviously had no more incentive to offer the best product possible, and they clearly didn't. Why else would we end up with so much bland, monotonous rubbish in the charts (pretty much all in three very musically limited genres, btw- pop, hip hop and country), with so many songs using the same type of electronic beat and the same few trite lyrical concepts, delivered by singers who are overly dependent on Autotune? Bottom line, the mainstream music industry stopped caring about substance years ago (and barely cared about it in the first place). They adopted the late 20th/ early 21st century American business approach where short-term profit and endless "growth" trumps everything else. And look where it got us. Surprised? Here's the good news that most of the public seem to have missed for the last couple of decades, though: you have other options. You don't have to listen to the ridiculously narrow range of formulaic crap being pushed on you by the few companies who have been allowed to control the mainstream music industry. The internet means that there are entire worlds of music of many types available for you to hear if you just figure out where to look. (KZitem is often surprisingly good for this, suggesting excellent music I was previously unaware of.) No matter what kinds of music you like, the range and quality of it you can find online if you look hard enough is unbelievable.
@jonnyharvey
10 ай бұрын
yes I should've included those points in the video about the consolidation of ownership of the media, radio and record labels, especially in America. But it's had an impact in Europe too. Only three labels left now.
@vrant_19
10 ай бұрын
The purity of the music in general is just lost..
@trevorlawrence2119
Жыл бұрын
I think that each genre has their time in the spotlight like disco went mainstream in the late 70s, Nu metal went mainstream in the early 2000s, EDM went mainstream in mid 2010s.
@JamesJimmaHarding
11 ай бұрын
It's not just music, but western entertainment in general is in such a bad state now that mant people are either flocking to Japanese/South Korean media, clinging onto nostalgia and enjoying "classic" material from past decades, or turning to indie properties. The most anticipated upcoming animated series is Indie cartoon "Lackadaisy", which is pretty telling, don't you think?
@saintkevinofficial
11 ай бұрын
100%
@austinreed7343
11 ай бұрын
See also the Latin American music boom of the 90s. Nowadays music from there is less accessible.
@letachja
Жыл бұрын
One fact that I see rarely mentioned in these kind of videos, is that music in the english language is getting less popular on a global scale. It used to be normal to have the same (mostly american) artists topping the charts in various countries. Nowadays it´s quite common to see local artists singing in their own language top the charts. This might also be an explanation why we see less global superstars. While I understand why some people mourn the loss of big superstars, it´s also refreshing to see that the american dominance on pop culture is dwindling and instead having an increasing amount of german, spanish and french (and many other languages) music to chose from. Intrestingly we see a similar development happening with movies.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this take on things. The second point is really good. I didn’t include info on the first point cause I didn’t find any research pertaining to it. But that’s a very interesting insight. I guess it also correlates to America’s diminishing standing in the world in other areas too
@frankrodriguez9081
Жыл бұрын
Thriller is still the greatest video of all time including Bad Romance by Lady Gaga
@crazy1234573
Жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of what was said, but I think people are giving tiktok too much credit. Prince used a lot of new technology to create his music. He was just more talented than anyone you would ever find on tiktok. ANYONE.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
A million times more talented. A true genius.
@coolclearfacts6105
11 ай бұрын
I don't normally watch music related videos, but I'n glad I watched this. I very much enjoyed it. Thanks for posting. Cheers.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
Thank you 😀😀
@vrant_19
10 ай бұрын
Honestly the main factor behind the decline of pop music is just sad and was avoidable at the same time but like I said currently most of the artists lack creativity and they barely have any meanings in their songwriting.. Yes ik not everybody can think out of the box but there are many artists who do that and they get no plaudits from the "audiences" and the "media" Also the award ceremonies such as the Grammy's lost its credibility for example in 2020. And all these 'trends' on tiktok are all collected and extracted from old school hits remixed and created and now ppl are only behind those remixes and not the ones who started it We as a newer generation have to understand how the real music works and hopefully the artists will try to understand and rectify the issue and one more thing. LONG LIVE POP!(nd im gen z btw)
@JJAntz11
9 ай бұрын
yep hit the nail on the head pop is dying because there just is no creativity at all it all feels soul-less apart from a couple exceptions it’s just boring and plain
@trentonbates3114
Жыл бұрын
I think the music industry just goes through cycles like an economy. For example right before thriller came out albums were not selling all that well either.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I'm no sure...... it was a very different world.
@AlexGray19
Жыл бұрын
As an aspiring artist myself i think that this is a great wake up call for the music industry because obviously making business with no risk and waiting to get huge results is just irrational thinking. For the last week or so i've seen so many other people talking about this including a billboard article where it states just that. I hope that's a good sign for a change in their strategy because having a viral moment is too little of proof anyway to show you've got everything it takes to be a major star. Let's also not forget that the algorithm is not always good to everybody and with a little help and investing when you are good you will be liked. If they could foresee that someone like Madonna and Mariah Carey would make it big back then there's still the chance to do that now too with new artists. Also music industries can control the algorithm to promote their artists. There's literally a button that can make people go viral by tiktok employees. Labels now are just lazy and find excuses to make tasteless music but it won't go on like that because people eventually are starting to notice all of that and lacking true stars compared to the tech world as mentioned here in the video are big reasons to stop being like that and maybe stick to the old original formula of discovering talent.
@brainstormingredligh
Жыл бұрын
We absolutely agree with you the main problem as well is that there is a lack of physical music releases especially when it comes to singles you need to release a physical single with remixes B-Sides unreleased content different photos enhanced CDs all of that good stuff needs to come back they also needs to be shows like Top of the Pops Pepsi chart hit again they're also needs to be much more stronger advertising on television for music there is no advertising for music in Australia at or on television in the same with radio we need to get it back to the way it was and record stores and everything like that there are new and untouched artists and untouched Talent out there that is just amazing
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
do tik-tok really have a button to make certain people go viral? Is that actually true?
@AlexGray19
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey yea it was verified by tiktok itself
@AlexGray19
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyharvey www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2023/01/20/tiktoks-secret-heating-button-can-make-anyone-go-viral/?sh=52e2f07e6bfd check this article
@taintedlife2618
Жыл бұрын
Pop lost the artistry. The big “stars” are all styled the same, they never have much to say. It’s all so very dull. Luckily there’s great old music.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
yes it's very dull atm.
@rah2676
11 ай бұрын
Popular music is in decline because labels are just focusing on quick hit singles and not classic albums.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
I agree
@mary-w7j1g
11 ай бұрын
@@iyerezmKpop relies on western ghostwriters and producers not new/special
@ElVlogdeBob
11 ай бұрын
It was around 2017 when I noticed I was listening to more 902 and 80s music than modern one. The oversaturation of Reggeaton contributed to that. I once turned the radio in a modern hits station radio and I noticed that I couldn't distinguish one artist or song from the other. All songs sounded the same and all the singers had the same monotone voice and style. I have no idea what are the modern pop hits nowadays.
@Srs-zb5qx
Жыл бұрын
Pop music is dying because Micheal Jackson died.
@thesecondYouTube
Жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson's last hit was in 2001. He was irrelevant.
@Srs-zb5qx
Жыл бұрын
@@thesecondKZitem yet when he died in 2009 the whole world mourned
@thesecondYouTube
Жыл бұрын
That was corny media hype to make money and nutty Michael Jackson fans going overboard.
@michaelgrogan35
10 ай бұрын
Majority of pop music was never good anyway. But to answer this question. Main reason is cause of social media takeover. It's a new idiot out everyday Back then labels and other institutions had more control over marketing people and defining the culture. They could push whoever and enable them to be worshipped for 10years. Now it's a society of clicks and scrolling; stuff is forgotten very quickly
@diosdadodionisio7335
Жыл бұрын
Because of K-POP 🇰🇷🔊💃🕺
@SuperDuperVision
Жыл бұрын
This was quality. You got a supporter in me
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀😀
@GlennWD
Жыл бұрын
Thank Goodness Madonna and Kylie are still alive.
@ralphangel561
Жыл бұрын
Washed up now
@austinreed7343
11 ай бұрын
And Weird Al!
@arielanderic
2 ай бұрын
@@ralphangel561 Kylie is still going strong but Madonna hasn’t put a good album since Confessions on a Dance Floor
@gaga4presidente
Жыл бұрын
I started to turn into a grumpy old man around 2016 (I was 22) because popular music became so boring and sad, I hated the drake music era
@skyfitsheaven
Жыл бұрын
same, i was only 18 in 2016 and by then I really couldn’t stand popular music because it became so soulless, even tho I like shallow pop music but when you compare today’s new emerging stars they sound so moody and monotone compared to literally any of the 00s popstars
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
11 ай бұрын
That was the same time I began to loathe popular music (I was 15). Ever since then, I’ve been against popular music unless something good comes on, and that’s almost rare.
@mattymoo
11 ай бұрын
Imagine what a young genius like Prince, coming of age now, could have done with this new paradigm instead of having to write the word "slave" for Warner Brothers on the side of his face for a decade. Musical genius will continue to exist regardless of its particular commercial distribution structure. Good music existed before the 1900s recording industry and it will continue after the 1900s music industry either evolves or goes extinct.
@Musiover00
9 ай бұрын
Prince knew this would happen when he told us that the market is more Singles driven rather than Albums.
@jonnyharvey
9 ай бұрын
Well he was right. The labels are just out for a quick buck. But in the long run, nobody wins
@Musiover00
9 ай бұрын
@@jonnyharvey artist don’t love music they love money that is also part of the problem quick single run to someone on KZitem and do something stupid like disrespect a fellow artist for clout
@aelfredrex8354
Жыл бұрын
1997. The FCC allowed the corporations to buy it all up. Only 3 remain: Sony, Universal, and Warner Brothers. They control the entire US scene, right down to the airplay and algorithms on all major platforms. Your music is chosen for you by focus groups and accountants. The 80's was a totally different scene in the industry. Freedom! Loads of indie labels, DJs could play what they wanted, bands were everywhere on the local scenes. I was a light tech/roadie during all that. I watched as the bands started to give up, the small venues stopped hosting live acts, the radio stations became wastelands. You can still find good stuff out there, mainly in Europe and Japan, even some from Africa. They're not as stifled creatively as the US is. The corporations have a stranglehold here.
@hereforit2
11 ай бұрын
I love many types of electronics music, but nothing will ever replace listening to a band live! ❤
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
😀
@Johnnysmithy24
11 ай бұрын
Yep
@AlexDeChristian6323
11 ай бұрын
Pop music died 10 years ago, all the new stuff is mediocre.
@mattmaloney2445
Жыл бұрын
Ava Max is a standout artist because her greatest attribute aside from her beauty is her voice which is sublime!
@robbielux8353
5 ай бұрын
All music is on the decline..when you think about it. Pop music, dance and hip hop all are declining in sales and streams since last 2010s…on another note rock and country have had a slowly but surely resurgence.
@jonnyharvey
5 ай бұрын
Yes I’ve heard that too
@Islas_Canarias
8 ай бұрын
I used to religiously watch music TV shows from the age of 18 in 1988 with MTV until 2015 age 45 when I just stopped. I realised that music had changed and was nothing like it used to be. I couldn't name a hit song from today, although I have heard of people like Billy Eilish, Lil nas X, Harry Styles, I still couldn't name one of their songs nor have any interest in doing so. Music has become boring, monotonous with everyone just copying one another not to mention the pornographic level of music videos being produced. The music industry has becime one giant, filthy, sethpool of sordidness and wickedness. I'm happy to live out my life with the past 60 years of music and rock stars.
@stephenbanks5952
Жыл бұрын
Maybe we should be grateful to the stars that we do have. Madonna has been around for 40 years, is one of the buggest stars ever. She is literally a living legend. Now all we hear about her is people slagging her off for being old. I think we should show her some gratitude. She is making new music with Max Martin. Will it get played on the radio though because she is too old? We should show her respect for still being around.
@ralphangel561
Жыл бұрын
Never forget Janet Jackson in The conversation who created a massive influence as well
@stephenbanks5952
Жыл бұрын
@@ralphangel561 I do respect Janet but I mention Madonna because she is the one currently being disrespected for being old. No one has said anything about Janet's age.
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
Madonnas being disrespected because of her outrageous plastic surgery and then making a mockery of the Lord. She's insane and deserves disrespect.
@jalcobo
11 ай бұрын
In ten years “music” videos will just be straight up porn with AI generated “music”.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
God, I hope not.
@michelle-xi1kq
8 ай бұрын
kpop is definitely in lead with music videos
@twistedelegance_
Жыл бұрын
I don't think ANY change is forever. Eventually, a generation will get tired of what TikTok and social media did to us, and they'll start promoting going back to how things used to be (whether that's good or bad, truthful or romanticism of a certain era). Neither one of us will be here to see it, but it will happen. Hopefully this will result into taking our time to enjoy and consume things slower and with actual attention paid to what we see and hear, but also taking advantage of the internet and what it has to offer. There is a balance: just need to find it.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
Yeah tik Tok will peter out at some stage. Not sure what will replace it though
@Anderson_LS
11 ай бұрын
You can find thousands of talented artists on KZitem with millions of subscribers and hundreds of thousands of views. Instead of playing in clubs, artists are now growing up here on KZitem. Some have had their channels for 10+ years and you can watch how they grow up.
@jonnyharvey
11 ай бұрын
that is a good point- but they are harder to find. I guess that's how culture will be from now on - mainstream, monoculture is being dissolved.
@nelkosme3734
Жыл бұрын
The increase in quantity has decreased the quality of the music made. Just today a colleague asked why we were listening to radio station that play the same songs all the time. Because nothing new deserves the time to listen to it ...or very, very seldom actually :(
@bobi7152
Жыл бұрын
As a Gen Z, I don’t really see this as something bad necessarily. What is considered pop music has been historically a bit too narrow, with producers/editors/curators fearing to go off the beaten path, as well as a large minority of people snobbishly brushing it off as lesser than. I feel like every breakthrough of a superstar is accompanied with a story about how they wouldn’t want to play their music on the radio because it was too risky. And the charts were a lot less accurate - you can buy a song and listen to it 10 times or 1000 times, the difference wouldn’t be shown. So a more decentralised approach is definitely refreshing, even if it still has its own flaws. A monoculture can be unifying to an extent, but it can also really suppress more diverse sounds. Also, new superstars don’t appear that often - I don’t think it’s fair to complain that a new Madonna hasn’t appeared in the past three years, when she hasn’t appeared in the past 40 either. When someone truly groundbreaking comes along, I am sure we will embrace them on all of social media and streaming. Also II, calling Gen Z less creative because they have more entertainment options isn’t fair. You can get bored of Netflix/KZitem/TikTok (I know because I have), and on top, technology addiction is at the forefront of many young people’s minds. Not needing expensive instruments/lessons to create music has also helped bring new sounds. Creativity is just expressed differently now - often digitally. Making TikToks (you’d be surprised how much time a 30s video can take to make), digital drawing, photography, curating Instagram pages, song mashups, etc. I look at my teenage TikToks with the same nostalgia as my childhood drawings.
@cowgirltheworld
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE ON THIS COMMENT SECTION WITH A BRAIN
@austinedeclan10
Жыл бұрын
If a truly groundbreaking musician comes along, it'll be hard to tell what sort of impact they'll have. They'll have to solve a number of problems their predecessors didn't have like: 1) Not having the public's undivided attention. Since there were a handful of media outlets, stars of yesteryear pretty much had the world's undivided attention when they finally got on TV or radio. 2) Diversity of tastes. As you mentioned, thanks to the media, record companies, and curators, only a narrow range of music got promoted. These days, because of the diversity and fractured nature of the culture, a lot of music will never leave the microcosm it's created in. Each genre basically has its own culture, and movement and genres that do not share any similar styles will probably not get an opportunity to interact. The biggest problem here is you could have a chart topping hit but walk down the street and have nobody recognize you. You talk to the Starbucks waitress and she's never heard your music despite it being at the top of the charts because she's into some niche genre that bears no similarly to yours. 3) Influencers are the new pop stars and rock stars. Every kid on some level, wanted to be Kurt Cobain or Brittney Spears. This generation's Kurt Cobain is Jimmy Donaldson (Mr. Beast). A truly ground breaking musician of the future will have to deal with the fact that social media stars have more sociocultural clout than they'll ever have putting them at a disadvantage compared to the likes of Madonna and Michael Jackson.
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
@@austinedeclan10Mr.Beast compared to Kurt Cobain?
@austinedeclan10
8 ай бұрын
@@W81Researcher just think about it for a second. Who did you look up to when you were a kid? Who do the kids look up to today. Internet celebrities are today's rockstars.
@W81Researcher
8 ай бұрын
@@austinedeclan10 we didn't look up to Kurt Cobain we liked his music. Also there was a lot of different bands that were good at that time it wasn't just Kurt Cobain but also entertainment as a whole had a lot of variety. There was people like Arnold Schwarzenegger that was also an icon at the time as well as Tom Cruise.
@tirebiter1680
Жыл бұрын
In America the key to success is be someone that people want to see in concert, singing old songs.
@Musiover00
9 ай бұрын
Prince predicted this in 2014 he said “the market right now is singles driven and less albums, the love for the art is fading away” 20 years ago the average pop star was a genius of the art, today you’d be lucky if an artist knows how to play a Guitar.
@jsn1969
Жыл бұрын
It's all cyclical. I've seen it go bands, solo artists, boy group, girl groups, etc. Different styles are cyclical as well (pure pop, grunge, rap, rock, pure pop, etc.). Industries have had to adjust before. They will do it again.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
I agree to a point. But this is a seismic shift and the consequences are more than apparent.
@cristhianduarte2137
Жыл бұрын
I like this type of videos. Great job man 👏👏👏
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
cheers- thank you
@MultiOdom
Жыл бұрын
I just think most of us are old and pining for a different time like other generations before us. We need to accept that music isn’t made for us anymore and stop complaining The kids now do have superstars who they look to. Olivia, Billie, Bad Bunny, Lil Nas X, Doja.
@lisettes.9598
Жыл бұрын
I'm super old, but I get my pop fix from the insanely talent S Koreans. They are the supersoldiers of pop music today
@3xsxs953
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Superstars today may look different than they did in past generations but that doesn't mean they're any less relevant to their audiences than past stars. This whole video and the billboard article are very old man yells at cloud. Go listen to some Doja or Billie and relax lol.
@jonnyharvey
Жыл бұрын
maybe you have a point. Every generation says the same.
@MultiOdom
Жыл бұрын
@@lisettes.9598 exactly how my bf and I are. We love the old showmanship of Britney, Janet and Beyoncé and I hate that we don’t get that from newer pop girls anymore (Charli XCX and Normani??? aside lol)
@paullopez2021
Жыл бұрын
I see that "different time" in what Lil Nas X and Doja Cat do. Several of Lil Nas's songs have a Y2K pop style to it. Kiss Me More felt like it could've been on Katy Perry's Teenage Dream. What they're doing is "old" style pure pop music, but with rap lyrics.
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