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@horiginsfs7561
Жыл бұрын
Hi tapa
@oberonoberon9288
Жыл бұрын
I don't use reddit, but is there a chance you mix up Old-Housing and Old-Contract? I have a vienna subsidised Old-Contract (Passed down trough family) in a Old "Gemeindebau" and in that case the limit rent can rise much, so i have ~8,16€/m2. Which is close to your average, but the same "Gemeindabau" (Old Housing ?) has vastly higher rates (to my knowledge) if you get a new Contract (using Wiener Wohnen). PS: Going over your channel i assume you are also from Austria, but everyone i hear currently searching complains that everything available is so damn expensive.
@john-gorenja
Жыл бұрын
no, i dont think i will
@tanjoy0205
Жыл бұрын
Pls do a video on Singapore Public Housing
@naalsocomment9449
Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is not correct. Prices are still dramatically increasing by up to 10% per year since several years, even before inflation hit Austria. 8,7 per m2 is completely wrong. The average rent in all part of Vienna is >15,- There is no rent limits in Vienna except for old buildings built 200 years ago. There are not so many of those buildings and it is also not the best place to live (well compared to apartmens in other cities they are still in very good condition). Rents are only subsidized for people with very low income. So about 90% of the people won't get the subsidy. There is another type of subsidy but it is only when buying apartments. And companies don't sign contracts with City of Vienna anymore for this subsidy to avoid stricter regulations. Those apartments have waiting lists of several years anyways.
@cavalex
Жыл бұрын
I'm living atm in Vienna as a foreign student and let me tell you, the rent prices for student housing can be cheaper than the ones in my home city in Portugal. Adding to that the public transport system, the beautifull architecture of the city and everything in between this is probably the best place to live in Europe atm.
@moskon95
Жыл бұрын
The public transport is absolutely top notch
@rafaelwoitzuck3186
Жыл бұрын
As a viennese person I always flinch if i read something link your post. Or to put it in a viennese context: That city is just supposed to be the least shitty place to life - and not something to hail ^^ (In all seriousness: i hope you enjoy your stay in Vienna. Austria could be beautiful without the people)
@nikoleigraham8747
Жыл бұрын
I hate public transportation. Getting a car here is also impossible
@cavalex
Жыл бұрын
@@nikoleigraham8747 ... why do you hate it?
@TUNTALKS
Жыл бұрын
@@nikoleigraham8747 well, parking HERE is impossible
@nix3l_
Жыл бұрын
this austrian propaganda is getting real convincing
@Tapakapa
Жыл бұрын
Good ...
@anomalocaris2593
Жыл бұрын
@Computment We are still mad about you not killing Hitler when he was a baby
@Mixppmix
Жыл бұрын
Can you please, state some kind of comparisson to other nearby cities? Prague-Brno-Bratislava experience here and Im saying, yes Vienna is, for its size cheap housing.
@tammi.st.18
Жыл бұрын
@Computment The ÖVP saying something positive about Vienna?
@travcollier
Жыл бұрын
@Faris Akhal the best propaganda is true ;)
@Psychx_
Жыл бұрын
Housing prices in Vienna have risen strongly aswell. It may still be cheaper in European comparison, but nowhere near as affordable, as it once was. The availability of social living spaces (=owned by the city, available for rent below the average price since they omit the profit motive) has drastically reduced aswell and involves ever growing waiting lists…
@no_name4796
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile we keep building more and more car only street, enormous parking lots for cars and we pretend them to be free...
@truedarklander
Жыл бұрын
@@no_name4796 nooo Vienna don't become americanized
@hex2637
Жыл бұрын
Neoliberalism is slowly creeping into the spö over the last decades
@truedarklander
Жыл бұрын
@@hex2637 In the social democratic movement at large since Blair did it first
@theactivecoconut6077
Жыл бұрын
@@no_name4796 ??? More streets have become pedestrianized in the city than ever before. Outside the dense city centre where there is a lot more space there is more car-centric infrastructure is built which is totally fine
@user-xsn5ozskwg
Жыл бұрын
Man, the old housing thing seems like such a no-brainer. I'm guessing there are policies in place to prevent companies from destroying old homes to have another loophole?
@Tapakapa
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Still happens way too often, but it's not easy.
@nanogamer7414
Жыл бұрын
If you live in in old housing and have an open ended lease, your landlord can only terminate it if you don't pay rent or something similar, which is one of the most common reason why old housing won't get torn down and rebuild.
@gerrymnt9250
Жыл бұрын
You have to get a permit by local authorities that the demolition of the house isn’t impacting the cityscape. Which you can get but it’s not that easy
@frauleinbird
Жыл бұрын
@@gerrymnt9250 true, but there are companies like the one that tore down the building ensemble in Äußere Mariahilfer Straße, who got a permission for development from the district, then didn't fully disclose all information / lied in front of the city to cheat their way into a permit to demolish their buildings. It was fought in court for years but to no avail. Basically, the whole street has now lost its architectural integrity.
@gerrymnt9250
Жыл бұрын
@@frauleinbird you can’t get permission from the district. The permission you have to get from MA19. There’s ways around. You have to get a report that it’s not possible to keep the building due to technical issues. That’s a way around, true. But amendments in legal regulations are planned for 2023 to prevent things like that
@tachy635
Жыл бұрын
You first got me with your video about becoming an Austrian (at the time I was getting my Visa), then the countries who not let you go (I was one of the examples, an argentinian living in Austria), and now, next month I have to start looking for a new apartment and you came up with this video!! Google listen to everything, but you seem to be the one listening to Google 😂😂
@MarkusSchiller
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious where you get your numbers from. Because, if you look at any platform to find a place to rent in Vienna, you realistically end up at prices around 15€ per square meter. Associated housing is not that much cheaper anymore and even public housing is on the rise.
@MrManafon
Жыл бұрын
Very similar here in Copenhagen, great job explaining it! Prices have been going higher lately but are still hanging on, since the system is resilient to drastic changes
@Mustafe-q9v
3 ай бұрын
Jeg tror du mener de almene boliger. Der er kun 20% almene boliger i KBH, hvilket er langt færre end i Wien hvor over halvdelen bor til husleje som ikke må stige. Der er også langt længere kø her i KBH, de fleste kommer nok til at vente 7+år for en lejlighed
@dws49
Жыл бұрын
I'm a student in Amsterdam and this makes me very jealous. With what I currently spend on my 23sqm studio in Amsterdam, I could afford a 100sqm appartment in Vienna...
@Commentator541
Жыл бұрын
A horrible 100 sqm apartment. I have friends living in Netherlands, dumps like Vieneese would be illegal to rent in Netherlands. On top of that, the income is 1/3 for any decent paying job. As an engineer you can maybe earn 2000eur nett in Vienna, and that is if you are lucky. You woud not earn that little in Netherlands, even as an intern.
@strandkorbst9643
Жыл бұрын
Ahh you’re still fine, I have to pay rent in Dublin ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@mrsdubbelfresh
8 ай бұрын
@@Commentator541 the average salaries in Netherlands also have a cap and high % of tax, its not much more that you would receive in the Netherlands netto/ after tax while living costs are way higher.
@oo-yh5yj
Жыл бұрын
For those who pay too much for their Altbau: Go to your Schlichtungsstelle, they will settle this with you.!! Turns out I was paying 200 € too much for my place and those guys really helped me out a lot. Most landlord cannot/do not want to afford a court case that they are gonna loose anyway. So, it is best to just go to one of the official city departments. They know you are in the right and they will help you get your money back. You can also go to a third party lawyer firm such as "Mietfuchs" but they have super sketchy and ask for at leat 60% of the money that you'll get back.
@eleidal
Жыл бұрын
You can join the "Mietervereinigung" (a renter's union) and though one pays maybe €200 to join it, I got about €5000 back in rent that was charged too high. I only did that after getting a rental contract that is unlimited, meaning my rent is now higher, but still it was worth it.
@Ghi102
Жыл бұрын
Interesting to compare different countries. In the province of Quebec, in Canada, we have a similar situation of being cheaper than the rest of the country, but for different reasons. Upfront deposits are illegal and rent is controlled by limiting the amount it can raise every year. If the landlord raises your rent above certain threshold, you can refuse and contest it to a government agency (who usually favour renters). Even if you sign a lease, you can later on contest the price if you learn that it's been raised higher than the yearly maximum. It's also virtually impossible to legally evict a tenant outside of a few specific reasons (major renovations, moving in specific family members, not paying rent) with even exceptions to that that protect certain renters (like old people). Any evictions also have a deadline (3 months before end of lease at the latest) so if the owner doesn't evict in time, they have to continue the lease for at least another year. It won't stop owners from trying illegal things anyways, but it shouldn't happen in theory. It sometimes leaves some landlords in weird situations (if the renter stops paying rent 2 months before the lease expires, they can stay for 14 more months before being evicted, if the renters trash the place, etc.), but I think it's beneficial considering who has the most power in the landlord-renter relationship, since these situations happen rarely.
@MA-go7ee
Жыл бұрын
How long have these policies been in place? Everything about it screams a gradual lowering of housing supply in the long run. Or building of units exempt from such strict controls.
@maxencefenoll9823
Жыл бұрын
@@MA-go7ee These policies have been here since I can remember but yes Montréal experiences increase rent and housing cost because of housing shortage like the rest of Canada. Those policies do not affect the market and does not lower housing supply, the high demand does. Newly built units can charge rent as high as they want and this is a factor of increase in rent prices.
@theactivecoconut6077
Жыл бұрын
Also net wages are just low in Quebec
@UniquelyUnseen
Жыл бұрын
Great video on this topic Tapakapa. As soemone who currently lives in the US, the very thought of a city taking initiative like this to support people in such a way would be unthinkable. Not because they don't say "oh we want to help".. they simply refuse to act. In Budapest the situation is similar to Vienna, but you guys have it a lot better :)
@taivaankumma
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, I'm aware of the fact that rents are rising in Vienna, too, but man I wish we had it that good here in Helsinki.
@avaraportti1873
Жыл бұрын
Or, just don't live in a dystopian hellhole city
@GavinPetty
Жыл бұрын
@@avaraportti1873 You're thinking of American Cities, not Helsinki
@taivaankumma
Жыл бұрын
@@GavinPetty Nah, they're just one of those annoying people who think it's cool to pretend the biggest city in their country is the worst place in the world. Plenty of those in Austria as well.
@GavinPetty
Жыл бұрын
@@taivaankumma ah, fair
@jholotanbest2688
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Finnish rent subsidy system is pretty bad because it pushes rents higher and benefits land lords more than renters.
@GeographyWorld
Жыл бұрын
Housing is expensive: you just described Ireland in 3 words!
@JayPatel-ls6wn
Жыл бұрын
That's every developed country.
@hankcyrus9776
Жыл бұрын
Ireland or just Dublin?
@user-221i
Жыл бұрын
@@JayPatel-ls6wn That's every country
@Combat_Medic
Жыл бұрын
I have a pension of $3750 a month and am planning on traveling the world full time. My daily budget for housing is $30 a day. Surprisingly Vienna is a city that I can stay in long term if I want. I’ve already been to 22 countries and Vienna might be my favorite city ever. The public transportation, the site seeing, the people watching, everything about it is just awesome.
@assemjanym
9 ай бұрын
Sir where are you from? And what passport you hold?🫣
@jeffsauer4114
Жыл бұрын
I love these videos. I had the privilege of visiting Vienna for the first time a month ago... well worth a visit. These videos prepared me for the subways🙂
@did4h2k
Жыл бұрын
as a citizen of vienna - this is only partly true. i know more than enough who pay 14€/meter and upwards. 1k for a 60m flat is nothing too crazy.... yes, there is cheap public housing - which isnt crazy easy to qualify for
@Lisekplhehe
11 ай бұрын
1k for 60m is high, but not that crazy. In my country of poland, 60m^2 are going for 4k PLN which is sightly below 1k euros. This is a median monthly salary.
@username65585
Жыл бұрын
For another examle you should look at how housing works in Singapore.
@benjaminhalbeisen9175
Жыл бұрын
“Affordable housing is available all over Austria” … Vorarlberg sadly disagrees.
@JacenLP
Жыл бұрын
He did say "Austria", not small-Switzerland ^^
@benjaminhalbeisen9175
Жыл бұрын
@@JacenLP Kanton Übrig is how we call ourselves sometimes!
@JacenLP
Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminhalbeisen9175 lol too accurate
@rear5118
Жыл бұрын
Habt ihr keine Sozialbauträger in Vorarlberg?
@jrggrop
Жыл бұрын
When your city is an imperial capitol that is suddenly sans empire, resulting in a population lower today than a hundred years ago, you're kind of playing on easy mode when it comes to housing policy.
@charleslambert3368
Жыл бұрын
I think more cities should consider tackling their housing crises by losing WWI.
@McDonaldsCalifornia
Жыл бұрын
Then again you have way more resources when it's the other way round
@hgzmatt
Жыл бұрын
It's really not though, vienna is bigger now.
@phantomderp834
Жыл бұрын
Holy hell the median income is just 26064€? That's like $26064
@SuperKanuuna
Жыл бұрын
netto.. thats pretty much normal here and ppl still get along
@gerrymnt9250
Жыл бұрын
That’s netto. Which is really high also for European standards
@hgzmatt
Жыл бұрын
It's really not. If you were to add all the health insurance stuff and all the other crap which in the US is not included.. you have to like 2x or 3x the number I reckon.
@Oliviaf176
7 ай бұрын
Except that it’s $28087, currency exchange rate doesn’t ring a bell to you?
@wil8785
Жыл бұрын
As a labor & public economist this was super interesting. Housing is such a fundamental necessity and in everywhere I have lived has felt like the landlords are treat me as a commodity and my life is but coin in their coffer. Also, I am sorry but I can't read your citations very easily (I only speak English); what is the name of the policy passed in 1981 in Vienna that set the old/new housing? I want to look into it to see if I can find data & do research.
@milanoxiel7853
Жыл бұрын
Many of my friend lives in Austria still have rent lower then 300 euro , although not all of them support mittelzeitel registration
@harnageaa
Жыл бұрын
My mom is living in vienna for about 11 years and she told me the prices are quite expensives and she's rather looking at buying apartments in Romania since it's cheaper rather than vienna.
@romachoz
Жыл бұрын
Albania is also cheaper then Romania. Also some African countries is cheaper the. Albania
@alessiogentile4273
Жыл бұрын
It's this video a joke? A 35-40mq apartment goes from 700 to 850€! Only the social buildings are cheap, but if you're a youngster just moved to the city you CAN'T access to the social buildings! Plus the apartments in old buildings are a total mess! Electric heating, no curtains ecc ecc. Please don't believe this video! Source: I moved in Vienna 2 years ago
@peabody1976
Жыл бұрын
One thing that I see in places that might help the land issue is a public-private partnership. In exchange for giving housing developers tax credits on buying land/building costs, the city gets to claim a percentage of units in a building that must be association housing (since "old" housing is locked, and public housing is basically locked). It would allow the city to build more public housing because it wouldn't be competing for land. This would be _in addition to_ (not instead of) full "association housing" buildings, and apply to most new "market housing". Would that be something Vienna as a culture could look at and study to see if it would work?
@gerrymnt9250
Жыл бұрын
Vienna already does that. Many private projects are only approved if there’s a specific percentage of social housing within the complex
@peabody1976
Жыл бұрын
@@gerrymnt9250 Thank you.
@Gastell0
Жыл бұрын
It is a vicious circle when Rent is influenced by the value of the land, value of the land is influenced by demand for housing, and housing construction is influenced to higher rent
@raducu4566
Жыл бұрын
the interior urge to move to austria for university
@Todesnuss
Жыл бұрын
Economic factors aside, I say do it. Young people from all over is what brings the fun to this city.
@cavalex
Жыл бұрын
Yeah do it. I'm living here for 1 semester and it's been the best decision in my life.
@andrej8505
Жыл бұрын
In the second largest citiy of Austria Graz the price of newly bulit residential places is on avrege 13€/m²
@naalsocomment9449
Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is not correct. Prices are still dramatically increasing by up to 10% per year since several years, even before inflation hit Austria. 8,7 per m2 is completely wrong. The average rent in all part of Vienna is >15,- There is no rent limits in Vienna except for old buildings built 200 years ago. There are not so many of those buildings and it is also not the best place to live (well compared to apartmens in other cities they are still in very good condition). Rents are only subsidized for people with very low income. So about 90% of the people won't get the subsidy. There is another type of subsidy but it is only when buying apartments. And companies don't sign contracts with City of Vienna anymore for this subsidy to avoid stricter regulations. Those apartments have waiting lists of several years anyways.
@tja4379
Ай бұрын
i guess this average includes old unlimited contracts, otherwise the figure 8.7/m^2 can't be right. but it's impossible for anyone not already having such a contract to obtain one so calculating them in is kinda misleading
@mesiroy1234
Жыл бұрын
You're really good and explaining, thorough and puting simple
@vertigq5126
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! It was really interesting to hear about a different public housing system. God bless you :)
@firstsecond9569
Жыл бұрын
I bet its really hard to get an apartment since the price isn't set by market demand
@SwordQuake2
Жыл бұрын
Many more cities need to be like Vienna.
@mehornyasfk
Жыл бұрын
Don’t just stand there expecting other cities to be like Vienna, become Vienna yourself first.
@joaquinvideo2959
Жыл бұрын
@@mehornyasfkpeople can be cities? Nice
@nikolatasev4948
Жыл бұрын
Affordable housing is a great social asset. We need a lot more of it. I believe the market, with appropriate regulation, can work wonders. Simply allow for more mixed-use high-density housing, less zoning restrictions on height, but strict requirements for spaces between buildings. The old housing is energy inefficient, as its thick walls take a lot or energy to heat or cool. It also usually lacks elevators, making it harder to use by older people (and European population is growing older). It is far better than getting into debt due to rent, or being homeless, but it can be much improved if replaced with higher new buildings.
@richardnoah2922
Жыл бұрын
Vienna used to have a horrid poverty issue, especially into the 1920-30's and 40's albeit both decades for a different reason. I'm glad they take care of their people, i just can't stand the humidity from the danube in summer. The general lack of Air condtioning made it rough!
@keskonriks710
Жыл бұрын
A solution for the not-enough-land-thing could be to introduce a right of first refusal for the city on real estate market.
@hblaub
Жыл бұрын
If your city becomes more expensive by the minute, a lot of essential personnel will not live anywhere near anymore. Tough luck if you then need fire fighters and handymen...
@uriulrich4918
Жыл бұрын
I pay 10.30€ per sqm in a tiny German city with around 50,000 inhabitants and a university. This includes heat and electricity.
@illjahavrylenko4011
Жыл бұрын
I think that LVT is a right solution for an upcoming problems in Vienna
@jwick726
Жыл бұрын
Amsterdam student and pay around 30 Euro per m2 and 55% of my income goes to rent, exclusing energy and water. Housing prices rise faster than wages and interest rates are lower than inflation, so saving for a house is near impossible.
@prismflux5129
Жыл бұрын
They should implement this trinity in luxembourg
@ZacksScraps
11 ай бұрын
You say that Association Housing requires no deposit yet it literally requires a 4 or 5 figure deposit (which sounds insanely high).
@kenster8270
Жыл бұрын
If you're not a student but you're still spending more than 1/3 of your disposable income on housing (viz. rent or mortgage payments), then you're losing out. In the Nordic countries, there are mechanisms in place to try to prevent that from happening. But in a city like Copenhagen, there's such a high demand for apartments that a black market has emerged that somewhat off-sets what the government is trying to achieve, which is reasonably and realistically affordable housing.
@flyingaviator8158
Жыл бұрын
In Vienna you have Sozialbau and Gemeindebau where you can get cheap flats. Its the rest of the social system left. But its impossible to get one in the center. If you want to rend a flat as a person not based in vienna since at least 5 years its as expensive as any othe rmajor european city.
@Santiino
Жыл бұрын
No idea but as an austrian they dont seem cheap to me at all.
@danycashking
Жыл бұрын
come to amsterdam, you'll pay additional rent just to have your own toilette
@sokolmihajlovic1391
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for good vid. Everything is about the land and the way the city government manages stuff. Vienna ranks top 5 in different studies and rankings in the world. So they did one or two things right. One of the keys to "affordable" houses is to not sell land to hedge funds, sheikhs or oligharchs. But give away about 20 m² of land to each citizen living in city for at least two years. In return the city can and should own 20% of the property, because they provided the land at no cost. Associations, owned by the citizens and with democratic voting mechanisms can and should be installed, just to organize stuff properly. The ownership of the apartment is key to building some wealth and prepare for retirement. Rents are like an additional income tax. The government should, besides the land, provide cheap interest only mortages (~0,2% per month) for about 50% of the construction costs. And third be very proactive in providing land for building and provide infrastructure, like railroads and public transport. Anyhow, Vienna already does an excellent job here, and other city governments should learn a thing or two from Vienna. A good starting point for city planners is your vid, ty.
@benjaminmeusburger4254
Жыл бұрын
In regards to the old housing: the buidling structure is most often terrible The rooms are 4m high and they have no good isolated + thin walls. A modern building would have only ~1/3rd of the heating expenditure in comparison. Even if the rent is much lower the heating costs are much higher and you will hear everything throug the thin walls.
@Paul-km9ox
4 ай бұрын
landlady, literally never been called this in a general conversation
@gytan2221
2 ай бұрын
That’s one of the reasons why Vienna is consistently ranked the most livable city in the world
@Rescel1
Жыл бұрын
0ne time i searched a for a place in my ciety the house was a Old house build in the 1400s .... OLD HOUSE
@Mr.Septon
Жыл бұрын
From what I do know, I am a fan of the Singapore style of making all housing public housing, and being unable to purchase a home, rather instead you get a 99 year lease.
@asdanjer
Жыл бұрын
Housing costs have truly become reticules. I really don't understand wey this isn't farther up on governments priority lists. even on the countryside it is getting reticules.
@aureavita8653
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I think you meant "ridiculous" and "why" instead of reticules and wey
@RyanTosh
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean, it seems like it would be a government's first priority to take care of its citizens most basic need, that being food and shelter.
@asdanjer
Жыл бұрын
@@RyanTosh yes this always was so wieder to me. I mean most developed countries subsidize basic food products but public hauling was somehow forgotten in the 21 century.
@hellishcyberdemon7112
Жыл бұрын
@@RyanTosh best goverments can do is take away your freedom of speech and right to defend yourself and send your tax money to Ukraine. The government helping people, HA
@RyanTosh
Жыл бұрын
@@hellishcyberdemon7112 Wtf are you talking about m8. Pretty much every western democracy keeps freedom of speech basically intact, with the exception of speech that causes direct and severe harm. Taking away your right to defend yourself using [weapon] is perfectly justified when [weapon] is responsible for hundreds of times more deaths than it prevents. And sending a teensy tiny perfectage of your nation's tax income to support a democracy being invaded by an imperialist foreign power is something to be proud of, and something which doesn't harm you in the slightest.
@adikravets3632
Жыл бұрын
How nice it is when a country priorities it citizens.
@levant5378
Жыл бұрын
Why not block the construction of new condos?
@PhilTCLoveGirls
Жыл бұрын
bro i´ve been to korea, seoul is literally cheaper than vienna (besides the housing, seoul is hella expensive). the living expenses now are at an all time high. housing prices are RIDICULOUS. all in all vienna is a shitty place to live and i cant wait to move away
@bob8027
Жыл бұрын
Ich glaub ich muss nach Wien ziehen.
@klobiforpresident2254
Жыл бұрын
Good luck getting the affordable housing.
@bob8027
Жыл бұрын
@@klobiforpresident2254 Auch wegen unis und andere sachen.
@alena209
Жыл бұрын
I GO TO VIENNA!
@craigcook9715
Жыл бұрын
17:45 "primarily determined by wealth" do you mean only wealth (money/assets you already have), or income (money you have coming in), or both? For economic analyses, differentiating between wealth and income can be important. Enough wealth can generate income, and income can be saved to become wealth. But still, they're not the same thing. One with wealth and no income might have diminishing wealth (unless interest on the wealth exceeds expenses). And no substantial wealth can lead to financial instability.
@Basta11
Жыл бұрын
Countries with strong support for public education do really well economically. Public housing can be just as beneficial. Look to Vienna and Singapore for examples, not the US who just stacked the poor on top of each other and have the police abandon them then once in while raid them for drugs. But even the ghettos of the US is better than the homeless encampments we have now all over the place due to lack of affordable shelter. People here are so brainwashed against public housing they,d rather have homeless people shooting up in the streets than having a cheap place to stay, be safe from the elements, looters, and thugs, and do their business in private.
@pedasn
Жыл бұрын
Really doesn't feel that way
@ADSLPL
8 ай бұрын
Renting an apartment is modern slavery. One is at the mercy of a stranger.
@Nic0R_
6 ай бұрын
where are you from? your English is perfect? if you arent native speaker then can you tell, please, how you made it so far?
@rogofos
Жыл бұрын
could anyone find where the figures from 1:00 come from? all the sources are in german and ich spreche kein deutsch
@theperfectmix2
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the situation you describe as what you need to avoid is just describing US cities.
@LaVaZ000
Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Vienna, they aren't.
@Gareth7015
Жыл бұрын
It has a reputation for being cheap, but I think that must be either a hangover from the past, some statistical anomaly from including the prices of the suburbs, or the effect of people living in social housing reporting on the price. The rent in Vienna isn't cheap. I pay about 4x more than I did in (an admittedly smaller city in) the UK, for less than half the space, no garden, no allocated parking, etc, plus a much larger security deposit. Also, the taxes on income are wayyyyyyyy higher and goods at the shop cost more - this isn't "rent" but it's a valid part of the calculation on what makes a place "cheap" to live. On the plus side, transport is better and services seem to have shorter waiting times. I'd say it's a better place to live if you have a large income, and want to give away a significant part of it in exchange for having more things taken care of for you, but it's certainly not "cheap".
@InschrifterOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Privately rented places are usually more expensive. He is talking about socialized housing, where you get to live in an appartment subsidized by the viennese government. Nonetheless, this global crisis obviously hit this system as well …
@gerrymnt9250
Жыл бұрын
Renting out a private apartment built after 1945 can be quite expensive. But 70-80% of the housing stock in Vienna is either social housing or old buildings which are bound to a specific rental price. I don’t know why you think goods are more expensive in Austria. I was living in the UK and prices for most goods where a lot higher than in Austria
@319Schum
Жыл бұрын
The low cost housing projects and regulations seem to stop or greatly limit people from moving in favoring the people who are already there.
@PitchblackDragon
Жыл бұрын
Lived in Vienna for 10 years and no, it was not cheap in comparison to other Austrian Cities.
@MatthiasPilz
Жыл бұрын
Other Austrian cities would be considered small towns internationally.
@mrroger-t6m
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how cheap they are if you can't buy them rent
@a10warthog4
Жыл бұрын
Now compare how much everything else costs 😂
@toyotaprius79
Жыл бұрын
I already know people in Ireland looking to move to Vienna primarily for the rent and better work-life value
@niknitro8751
Жыл бұрын
I love the system here in Vienna however I wish they would rewrite this law to make it a certain age rather than a certain year for defin8ng old housing 1981 was 36 years after 1945 so maybe 36 years would be a good value. or maybe 40 years.
@andrejparunovic6888
Жыл бұрын
My family (in Serbia) got a loan provided by the government to buy an apartment. I think the way we do it is better. Subsidize making people owners, not renters. Although my parent's only got the loan because my dad is in the army, and they got it only after waiting more than a decade. Before we got the loan, our rent was also subsidized, although also only because my dad's in the military. I wish the program would spread to the everybody.
@Duck-wc9de
Жыл бұрын
The best public policy to reduce housing costs is to built better social housing for the poorest, served by public transportation and regularly maintained, so it doest decend into a geto, and liberalization of the private renting market. Years of terrible public policies lead to the dumping of social responsabilities in landlords, wich is afecting the expansion of the renting market, increasing the prices of houses. But governments cant tolerate the rent increases for the well-off middle class family because their votes count the same as the least well-off members of society, for that reason, governments prefer to apply general public policies instead of very foucosed and self limited ones.
@Labroidas
Жыл бұрын
I've got a typical austrian solution for fights with the landlord/lady over rent being too high, if you can't afford suing them: Rechtschutzversicherung. It's cheap, and damn is it powerful.
@ericad8412
Жыл бұрын
Say less **buys airline tickets**
@Luxcium
Жыл бұрын
Why I don't know anything about Austria
@sfdjk
Жыл бұрын
based orange pilled tapakapa
@denversupermarket7484
Жыл бұрын
Markets still exist
@ohadhabrnash334
Жыл бұрын
hello dearist tapacapa i want to know the difrencis of cidisenship and visa thank you
@sweJEverywhere
Жыл бұрын
I'm paying here in Vienna for 28m² flat almost €700,- without Gas! Since the gas prices are rising you have to pay additional +€300 p/m. Not cheap at all.
@NikolayBelyh
Жыл бұрын
Why don't you take a social apartment, then? I'm paying €280 for 45m² (in brand new "association" house). The "deposit" was quite high, yes (~30K) but IMHO it totally worth it.
@smileyp4535
Жыл бұрын
Who cares if the land is expensive??? All people MUST be housed before you start profiting from it, if you want to profit make it worth leaving the public housing.
@allanshpeley4284
4 ай бұрын
Rents are or rent is?
@lietenantstorks2789
Жыл бұрын
Rent control can be absolutely disastrous in many cases, and often ends up destroying the supply of housing. It is absolutely not the best thing to do for most cities, in Buenos Aires for example it went terribly and all attempts in LA have exacerbated the housing problem. To say the solution to housing is subsidies and rent control is the most European thing I've heard and it's crazy cause when Sweden tried it it went rather poorly. But yes okay the solution is always more interventionism aight
@mchammer1809
Жыл бұрын
3-month deposit??? Damn
@AlmiNia
Жыл бұрын
Me living in Vienna scraping by to pay rent 🥲
@mikerichards8456
Жыл бұрын
in the future you will own nothing
@zuffin1864
Жыл бұрын
oh wow, so the incentive is there for people to build housing there to maximize the value of their land, not to make outright profits. for example, the value of my land once i decide to sell it is higher once I decide to, and once I do, that would be the profit incentive instead of gouging out renters.
@edilee5909
Жыл бұрын
No way the housing problem could be alleviated by trying to fix things. I'm mindblown
@swagatochatterjee7104
Жыл бұрын
Eh technically the post WWI social democrats aren't the same as the post WWII social democrats! There is a reason why one of the post WWI house is literally named after Karl Marx
@qauke
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@eleidal
Жыл бұрын
and it keeps crime down.
@Brick-Life
Жыл бұрын
Crazy for housing to be cheap!
@ironcito1101
Жыл бұрын
Wow... it's regulation hell.
@ChanakyanStudent7971
Жыл бұрын
You won't be convincing me to come live in vienna anytime soon
@afgor1088
Жыл бұрын
good. you're not welcome.
@ng855
Жыл бұрын
Subsidies
@mnk9073
Жыл бұрын
_the virgin every other city_ vs. *THE CHAD (RED) VIENNA*
@Ivanfpcs
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if we just build a shiton of buildings and create certain criterias for them we can solve the housing crisis in less than a decade
@dt9081
Жыл бұрын
I don´t think, that your videos about housingprices are correct. You have to look at new built houses, for example in the 20th district. The monthly costs of a 87m2 housing is about 1.700€. That is absoluteley insane!
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