just the scene where Tyrion outsmarted Varys, Littlefinger and Pycelle by itself makes season 2 better then seasons 5,6,7,8 combined
@ShadeStormXD
2 жыл бұрын
i dont think id call it outsmarting varys. def littlefinger and pycelle, but varys was unimpressed with Tyrions proposition. to be fair, offering myrcella to Theon Greyjoy was tyrions weakest bait
@mechistarvily5078
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadeStormXD yeah I agree with you it wasn't really outsmarting but at least he tried :D
@sharonpopolow6874
2 жыл бұрын
Season 5 he was still with us, but starting in 6, he started going so downhill.
@andypan5396
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, varys knew from the start
@jankasolis61
2 жыл бұрын
@@mechistarvily5078 to be fair. In the books it's show later how tyrion didnt have that much control as he thinked XD. Litle finger and Varys we're manipulating him all the time xd
@sirdropsalot8471
2 жыл бұрын
Season's 2 Kings landing storyline was prolly the best storyline in the entire show
@dylanchristie7259
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that scene where Tyrion exiles Janos slynt is one of my favourite scenes it’s just so funny
@EOTLKarma7396
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Or the moment Tyrion outs the snitch by telling Littlefinger, Varys, and Pycelle all different potential husbands for Myrcella. The editing was perfect
@dexterwestin3747
2 жыл бұрын
It really was. Watching Tyrion playing the game so well, Bronn adding comic relief along with the antics of Cersei, Varys and Littlefinger culminating with the Battle of the Blackwater was just so fantastic.
@byjordi2185
2 жыл бұрын
Same for the books^^
@felxta
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you got to know all the players and now the most schemious are all locked up in a powder keg of a city :)
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
Stannis Baratheon at his most consistent and not all over the place in later Seasons.
@perseusveil9376
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this show with directors that are good at writing and that don't hate the character. A dream.
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
@@perseusveil9376 A good dream that I have all the time
@barkley8285
2 жыл бұрын
Season 5 stannis was great
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
@@barkley8285 Up until the last two episodes where his character was assassinated
@itbaytar6728
2 жыл бұрын
Man. If directors didn't hate stannis...
@titoiswack3524
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: what definitely made blackwater the best episode of season 2 was probably the fact that it was written by George R.R. Martin himself
@x_.suzaku._x
2 ай бұрын
George R.R. would never left the series.
@tobylerone4285
11 күн бұрын
@@x_.suzaku._x he’s left the books
@LuxLoser
2 жыл бұрын
S2 is my favorite because it’s one of the few seasons where I at times rooted for every faction. I came to respect Stannis, and hated Joffrey, but Stannis winning would mean an end to Tyrion, and Tywin’s scenes made him quickly into a GOAT character, and I was also of course rooting for Robb, but as much as I hated Theon’s actions, I could see how desperately he just wanted to accepted by his his family and people. No matter who won every fight, I was still going to lose in some way, and that made the show so incredibly compelling. Later seasons began to shift ‘good’ people to one side and ‘bad’ to another more so than before.
@Grivehn
2 жыл бұрын
War of the Five Kings really felt like a 'historical' war. Good and bad on both sides, and ultimately its always the common people who suffer the most.
@CatastrophicDisease
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a really good way to put it. In Seasons 1, 3, and 4 we really have no reason to root for the Lannisters. But in S2, Tyrion (whom of course we all love) is so embroiled in the Lannister cause that we have no choice but to root for them a little bit.
@LuxLoser
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatastrophicDisease Exactly! Plus it's very obvious that Stannis would never compromise with Robb, but might have been too skilled for Robb to beat. For the North to win independence, Stannis had to lose, or so the audience feels in S2.
@justinlizamor1541
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they made the Night King a compelling character. :o
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
@@LuxLoser I feel if Stannis did win Blackwater, he’d use Sansa as a bargaining chip. I know for a fact, Book Stannis would return Sansa without a second thought but since Show Stannis is more villainous, then he’d temporarily use her as a hostage.
@lokidoki525
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that is really good about season 2 but also thenhole show in general up to season 7 is the costum design. You really get a feeling of which house or group a character belongs based on their costume and also it really looked like medival attire. Compare that to season 7 and 8 where everyone wears black lether and looks the same like in a biker gang and not in an medival setting.
@marsmellow_5958
2 жыл бұрын
100% agree! They put so much effort in all the details. The only thing that comes close in the later seasons is Danny's braids and Sansa's outfits.
@lokidoki525
2 жыл бұрын
@@marsmellow_5958 nah i think sansas outfits were the same problem. But i agree with the hair.
@CommanderLongJohn
2 жыл бұрын
Even in Season 2 the costume designs were mediocre at best, and for the most part not how any of these characters look in the book-like Tywin wears a fucking cloth of gold cape that can only be supported by a big Lioness necklace/loads of characters have idiotically badass armor yet virtually no featured characters wear armor (or they wear incomplete sets with no helms) /the color palette is always muted as fuck and black for the most part, you'd think 85% of all the House's/Lord's/Knight's of Westeros were all in the Night's Watch...
@lokidoki525
2 жыл бұрын
@@CommanderLongJohn still better than season 7/8. In season 2 it can be argued that they didnt have the budget to give everyone armour. In season 7 they not oly chose to not give people armour, the also chose to scrap the costume from before.
@anneneville6255
2 жыл бұрын
I think season 4 had the best constumes
@kevincatal8869
2 жыл бұрын
The battle of the blackwater will always be my favorite episode. I love the Hound finally turning on Joffrey especially straight to his face and Joffrey can do nothing to stop him, podrick saving tyrion, the whole explosion, Tyrion's speech, etc... It's just filled to the brim with amazing moments
@marsmellow_5958
2 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Cercei ready to poison her son rather then getting him killed by the enemy. Always gives me the chills.
@belgianfootball4529
2 жыл бұрын
Also stannis climbing the walls and leading from the frontline
@jackj9816
2 жыл бұрын
Stannis annoyed me not wearing a helmet lol
@kevincatal8869
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackj9816 yeah true, especially when the dude right next to him gets clobbered by a rock
@jackj9816
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincatal8869 that’s also why commanders don’t go first
@suvaansewram7434
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 was by far my favorite season. the acting, writing and everything else. It also helps that ACOK was my favorite book may also help
@mandotherapper2586
2 жыл бұрын
I preferred ASOS more, and season 4, but the slow descent into the seige of Kings Landing, and also Daenerys experiencing the magic and wonder of Qarth, were both superbly done in the books, in ways that couldnt quite be captured on screen, even given as good as S2 was.
@unratutox1543
2 жыл бұрын
@@mandotherapper2586 season 4 could have been amazing but leaving out the Tysha confession really left a bad aftertaste for me.
@suvaansewram7434
2 жыл бұрын
@@unratutox1543 I agree 100% By leaving that scene out dumb and dumber really missed an opportunity with Tyrion's character. They could have made him more like book Tyrion instead of what we got.
@megamovieman101
2 жыл бұрын
The content of ACOK was really good but I just can’t forget how many typos there were in that book, it’s quite distracting
@tcimfuckis6881
2 жыл бұрын
@@mandotherapper2586 CV uo
@pierrelhommet1118
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is just great because of the Goddamn Mannis. No need of a boring speech but a : "Come with me and take this city"
@maxiiim4683
2 жыл бұрын
Thousands
@flankspeed
2 жыл бұрын
"The dwarf has played his little trick. He can only play it once."
@LucarinaD20
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, too bad the actor has less personality than a wooden door
@MichalArchangelo
2 жыл бұрын
@@LucarinaD20 dude, were we watching the same show? Stephen Dillane is an amazing minimalist actor, he conveys so much in so little, especially given that he had no idea what the show was about yet gave an amazing performance anyway. Stannis is supposed to be grim, sullen and introverted, you can't expect him to be as expressive and outspoken as Tyrion for example
@whyareyoureadingthis2804
2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro! Remeber me? The Arab Ramsay ENJOYER 😈
@NekoHibaCosplay
2 жыл бұрын
The scenes between Arya and Tywin are pure acting gold, I like to think that some ot the remarks Tywin gives to Arya about her brilliance are actually Charles Dance genuinely appreciating Maisie Williams' work.
@dankyjoker
2 жыл бұрын
lol yeah ok sure
@flightofthebumblebee9529
Жыл бұрын
Probably the best change from books to show.
@hansellancephilippe4075
3 ай бұрын
glazing too much
@aesir1ases64
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that is really a pitty about the earlier seasons is that we never actually saw a single battle between the starks and lannisters, the main conflict in the early part of George's saga. They changed a lot of Robb to make him more understandable to casual modern audiences, those changes made sense but they are inferior to their book counter part, though .... to give credit to the producers, they actually showed more from Robb then we see in the books, since Cat went south for most of the book, we only see reports from Robb's campaign in the west, but in the series they actually showed some of the planning, camp, pre and post battle, which is pretty cool. Even George said that if he could change something, he would probably have made Robb a full POV character. Though he also admit it that by doing that, he would lose the "element of surprise" that we as readers get when Robb comes back to Riverrun and has to inform his mother and the Freys that he betrayed his vows. But man, imagine if Robb was indeed a POV character, it would make his death even more impactful. He is my favorite character in the books and Richard Madden made a perfect job portraying him, I just wished they have made him redhead like in the books and made him use the famous Iron Crown from the tradition of the previous Kings of the North.
@Nathan-yn3jo
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to read a POV Robb chapter
@hannothestupid2064
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-yn3jo the red wedding would be even worse
@gingerandbroke1402
2 жыл бұрын
George has said he regrets not giving Robb his own pov chapters.
@andrewlowden322
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the lack of Stark/Lannister battles on screen was down to budget issue
@dwightsmith3815
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlowden322 it was
@IsaacWhittakerDakin
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 shows us the scale of the war so perfectly. Episodes like 4, 5 and 6 all open with a major battle or event that shows the consequences across Westeros. In Episode 4, Robb wins a victory in the westerlands that makes life hard for Sansa in Kings Landing due to Joffrey's rage. In Epispde 5, Renly Baratheon is assassinated which shatters the Tyrell-Baratheon alliance, giving Stannis power on land and sea. Episode 6 opens with Theon taking Winterfell, which leaves Robb conflicted whether he carries on his campaign in the west or defends his home and has later consequences which ultimately results in the red wedding. Season 2 shows the horror and scale of war better than Seasons 7 & 8 ever could. Finally, Tyrion is easily the best character this season, unlike Ned Stark as hand of the king, he isn't afraid to play dirty and bends the rules in his familys favour. He has the power and is enjoying every second of it!
@jackbale5846
2 жыл бұрын
Blackwater is a masterpiece. Tywin's "we have won" gave me chills, brilliant...
@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177
2 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant actor
@jackbale5846
2 жыл бұрын
@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 portrayed him perfectly
@-HenryPurcell
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance is a genius
@friendlyboy880
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah s2 is just incredible. Back when the show used to have good writers and fire dialogue. The peak of GOT.
@jackbale5846
2 жыл бұрын
it's the same writers, only that in those times they could still write storylines based on the books.
@NostalgicMem0ries
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackbale5846 true, they are terrible without books, they needed to invent most of story and they cant ... they knew just few major things like dany going crazy and arya killing night king, rest was heavily improvised... still cant understand how can s1-s4 become s7 8...
@jackbale5846
2 жыл бұрын
@@NostalgicMem0ries these lazy producers were clearly not as half as clever as GRRM, at least theyr'e not involved with the prequel.
@no_one8224
2 жыл бұрын
D and D were good at writing dialogues but poor at writing stories
@officialthomasjames
2 жыл бұрын
@@no_one8224 "Because I have balls, and you don't."
@TheYankeesUnited
2 жыл бұрын
I love season 2. But a lot of people do not like the slow pace. People want explosions which is pretty sad. Because this season is amazing.
@RolleDA
2 жыл бұрын
This season had the best explosion though
@wallythewondercorncake8657
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard a single person say that.
@shannonceleste5557
2 жыл бұрын
Who on earth doesn't prefer s1-4 over the later seasons tho....😬😬
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, I consider this to be one of the faster paced Seasons. The chaotic events happen back to back and it feels like everything is moving, something I feel only Season 4 achieved. Seasons 3, 5, & 6, were so slow and have so many pacing issues and filler while Seasons 7&8 are so fast paced, most of the events are rushed and don't have any real consequences.
@radhiadeedou8286
2 жыл бұрын
Are these people real or have you just imagined them? Do you know one single person who prefers the later seasons over season 2
@taylorsvalley
2 жыл бұрын
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I liked Dani’s storyline in Qarth. Qarth was very mysterious and you felt that sense of it being “too good to be true” the whole time so I was always wondering what was going to pop off. I just didn’t like that there was no payoff with Quaithe.
@EpicMRPancake
2 жыл бұрын
"Ah, season 2, back when passionate showrunners thoughtfully adapted-" "They weren't passionate showrunners. David and Dan never loved GoT, we never loved them." "A harmless courtesy, your grace." "A lie, take it out." "... the boys season 8 and 7, and the girl season 6, being born of incest between the writers and arrogance-" "Make it 'the distinguished writers.' Whatever else they are, they still wrote some good dialogue."
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to throw Season 5 in there as well
@carlmcgrath484
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment😂
@radhiadeedou8286
2 жыл бұрын
What are you quoting?
@EpicMRPancake
2 жыл бұрын
@@radhiadeedou8286 Stannis from Season 2x1
@joeyjerry1586
2 жыл бұрын
Finally it’s here. While S2 is my least favorite of the first 4 seasons, it’s still first 4 seasons, it’s still phenomenal. This season had Tyrion at his peak with the hand of the king storyline culminating in the epic battle of blackwater (still my favorite battle), we got those amazing scenes with Arya and Tywin in Harrenhall, Theon’s storyline and character is so compelling and powerful to watch, S2 was just so consistent in terms of acting, writing and dialogue (aside from maybe Daenerys. It wasn’t terrible but probably my least favorite in the first 4 seasons)
@maniacmasturbator2411
2 жыл бұрын
The underwhelming Daenerys storyline in Qarth (especially after her great story in season 1) why I also think it’s the least strong of the first 4. It’s still terrific though. 1/4 3 2 6 5 7 8
@johanliebert375
2 жыл бұрын
For your robb stark criticism, I'd like to note that the seemingly no obstacles plot he's having is set up for the great twist of the red wedding, which made it much more chocking because we always thought everything is going to be well with his plot.
@aleemizcool3654
2 жыл бұрын
Disagree, showing the obstacles would be better. The books go into detail about the battles he wins, and lulls you into a false sense of security because of how great of a leader/strategist he is. By not showing the obstacles he overcomes in the show, it takes away from the idea that Robb is a great commander because we rarely ever see what makes him that.
@geordiejones5618
2 жыл бұрын
I mean it was pretty obvious when he chose a lowborn instead of a key political marriage that it was gonna bite him in the ass. I just didnt think it would end so soon after that.
@johanliebert375
2 жыл бұрын
@@aleemizcool3654 agree with you completely, by no obstacles i meant him being so good a commander that it seemed that way, not that his plot has been a road carpeted with roses. I guess bad wording
@MrFichstar
2 жыл бұрын
The scenes with Arya and Tywin are my absolute favorite throughout the whole show!
@mictuckfluff
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if someone else mentioned it but another great thing about the battle of the black water is who’s fighting. We all hate the Lannisters, besides Tyrion. We want to see Joffrey disposed. So we might want to cheer on Stannis. But if Stannis wins Tyrion would most likely die, and we don’t want that to happen. So we then might want to cheer for Tyrion, but if he wins Joffrey remains as king. I enjoy this, both sides have benefits for the audience to cheer on and it makes us very invested in the results.
@neiloconnor7776
2 жыл бұрын
Ygritte and Jon were a really good pairing…never a dull moment in their story
@lawv804
5 ай бұрын
Such a good pairing that they got married in real life.
@Robahomusic
2 жыл бұрын
Back when every episode was a delight.
@AMNG1994
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what else makes Season 2 so great? Dumb and Dumber actually showed some writing skills during this season. The Arya-Tywin plotline did not happen in the books. The Xaro-Pyat conspiracy also did not happen in the books. Dumb and Dumber actually made their existing material better. Oh how the mighty have fallen come Season 5.
@serwalkerofthekeynes8761
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the story if robb had actually listened to roose.. They'd have swept over the land and taken the throne just in time for stannis and renly to finish squabbling over who the king will be, job done. Robb, like ned is incredibly foolish with the whole honour and honesty policy, this omelette required a few to many cracks for either of them to handle.
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
If Robb listened to Roose, he'd be no better than Tywin and would be committing what we in the 21st call "war crimes". He'd only add fuel to the fire and create more enemies than he did in cannon. And Robb didn't attack King's Landing because Tywin had more men and moving against him directly was suicide, so attack his undefended home turf to force him into a battle of Robb's choosing was the best move if not for Edmure.
@mrhumble2937
Жыл бұрын
Nah, plus Stannis would have killed him since he was trying to be a king. If there wasn't a Magic Ghost monster Rob doesn't fail, him and Remly team up and crush them in that same battle. Ghost monster that was only used once the whole show changed everything.
@gfilmer7150
Жыл бұрын
@@mrhumble2937 If Robb wasn't King In The North, an alliance would seem likely.
@cbraat27
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is the most underrated season…especially when it’s not rated number one
@adinab478
2 жыл бұрын
The main characters Jon and Dany's plotlines moving slowly and at a similar pace makes a lot of sense, gives us the clue that they'll stay along for longer and maybe sooner or later interviene
@shawngiver5570
2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember the hype for season 2 and the battle of black water.. good times!
@filmblabber5382
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is so underrated. I rewatch GoT every now and then and I always forget how good this season is. Killed the vid bro as well!
@buennabus527
2 жыл бұрын
Watched GoT for the first time in the last year (bit late to the party ik). Im always surprised to hear people say S2 was their fav although it's obviously exceptional. Like many, my fav part of the show is all the manoeuvring but I felt S1 did this while also being more interesting and shocking. Personally I think S3 is by far the best and not just due to big moments but performances, story etc overall. Dany has her most dull season of the first 4 in S2 and I think that meant the pacing dragged a bit whenever it cut to her plotline
@andrewlowden322
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah most of Dany's stuff is unwatchable
@yousarrname3051
2 жыл бұрын
Don't go past S5, just pretend it got cancelled. It is way better that way
@nealfirstofhisname
2 жыл бұрын
Daenerys has very few chapters in ACOK, so they made a lot of filler scenes.
@jakedutton5424
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is a season where the more I return to it, the more I like it, just rewatxhed got recently and it's now my 2nd favourite season after 4
@Lancer212
2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched this yet but my personal opinion is simply because of Stannis the Mannis. Let's see what the video says
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
He should’ve been King over everyone else
@inaju
2 жыл бұрын
@@gfilmer7150 he literally burnt his own daughter to death, man
@gfilmer7150
10 ай бұрын
@Vernir-de4yv False. He is an interesting character, showing the duality of being so harsh and tied to duty. You're only saying that because he doesn't have a good character arc after Season 2.
@beckymaggie4606
2 жыл бұрын
I've just finished Book 2 and its stranger how different it is from Season 2. The characters I like in the show I dont like in the books and vice versa.
@BintyMcFrazzles
2 жыл бұрын
Series 2 is superb. Some of the best television I have ever seen. Great characters and their development, the story is character-driven, not plot-driven. Just superb. Interestingly (or not), Series 8 finale was on earlier today. I thought, "Oh, I'll watch it." I turned it off after 15 mins as I didn't give a sh!t about any of the characters any more, and it just annoyed me.
@flankspeed
2 жыл бұрын
S2 is awesome, building to maybe my favourite episode. GODS, THE WRITING WAS STRONG THEN.
@vito7828
2 жыл бұрын
The battle of Blacke water is my favorite battle in the show
@gfilmer7150
2 жыл бұрын
And the best one
@antoinerigaud_
2 жыл бұрын
I think the battle at the wall is slightly better
@Edmures_rampant_manhood
2 жыл бұрын
My opinion: Battle on the wall Blackwater Hardhome Battle of the bastards Battle of Winterfell
@vito7828
2 жыл бұрын
@@Edmures_rampant_manhood god list the long night is the worst
@Edmures_rampant_manhood
2 жыл бұрын
@@vito7828 I forgot it was even called that😅
@thefilmadvocate6192
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly prefer the book version, Clash of Kings, over this season This story was way more terrifying the book But I still think season 2 is amazing
@manvirshergill1739
Жыл бұрын
I mean... imo the books are always going to be preferred no matter how good the seasons are.
@Mj_Jetson
2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I forget how different Tyrion's season 2 story is from the books. But... it still really works! As for Jon and Dany... Qhorin Halfhand's plans and actions make no sense, there's definitely further revelations to come there. Qarth is the same: there's a bazillion factions in the books, and its not clear how much power each of them holds, nor why no one just killed Dany and took her dragons. But I guess this is the trouble with adapting an unfinished book series.
@tidepride86
2 жыл бұрын
As a HUGE Sopranos fan, I cannot deny that the first 4 seasons of GoTs is the best ever. Nothing else comes close.
@letmetellyalilstory9122
2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree. The first 4 seasons are incredible, but not the best ever 😉
@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177
2 жыл бұрын
@@letmetellyalilstory9122 you are delirious season 1-4 is some of the best storytelling and dialogue in tv shows history
@letmetellyalilstory9122
2 жыл бұрын
@@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177 Yep, some of the best. But not the best ever 😉
@pasandesilva2295
2 жыл бұрын
It's GOT s1-s4, and Breaking bad S3-S5 for me.
@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177
2 жыл бұрын
@@letmetellyalilstory9122 still way better than this new show so far
@JimJamJ4
2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness they stopped making seasons before they ran out of books. No, you're in denial.
@JohnSmithdhtxu4fif
2 жыл бұрын
1st stage of grief
@lorddaquanofhouserastafari4177
2 жыл бұрын
Gods the storytelling was strong then
@stanleylee3329
3 ай бұрын
I just wish we could talk about what we like without just comparing it to what we don’t. Season 1 was not great because season 8 was less so, it stands by itself as an amazing story and season. Simply saying “man it’s just so much better than later when this other thing happens” does the whole thing a disservice
@karielakeh7850
2 жыл бұрын
One scene that was really good is the scene where Bronn lectures tyrion and varys about war. Bronn best scene in mu opinion, he fully owns 2 of the smartest characters in the show.
@sooryaunshumulawkar6700
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is Tyrion’s season
@ellaphx
2 жыл бұрын
So, here's my problem with the Arya/Tywin storyline. I agree with everything you said, the chemistry is great, it's entertaining. But in the end, the tension is cheap, and Tywin acts way out of character. He figures out, pretty quickly, that she's a highborn Northerner. He also knew Ned and Lyanna Stark, both of whom Arya is supposed to resemble closely. But, even if he didn't recognize her and put together that she was the missing Stark child, which he would have, I just can't believe that he wouldn't apprehend and try to ransom a nobleman's child from the North. The fact that he never cottons onto her and tries to take advantage of the situation, makes all the tension building up over the course of that storyline just meaningless.
@harryguest741
2 жыл бұрын
Fair point and I have no doubts that had he realised it was Aya he would have ransomed her. However he’s disappointed in all 3 of his children and as mentioned almost has a father daughter relationship with her. Tywin is impressed by her and therefore doesn’t.
@limo1324
2 жыл бұрын
I think he considers her a lot more like Jeyne Poole (Sansa's friend from Winterfell at the start) who does have a noble name and lives in a castle but is still a "servant" in the hierarchy. Nobody would ransom Jeyne alone unless they were very desperate for a small reward and he is a Lannister, he could use an intelligent servant (who knows which side is going to win) more than any pittance her family might pay. He is still under the impression that Arya is in Lannister hands in the capital, also when did he meet Lyanna Stark?
@henrypicklevitz8870
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro I think he still thought Arya was with her sister Sansa in Kings Landing, at this point in the story. He had not much reason to be suspicious of her, plus he was too busy planning how to win the war, not care much about prisoner ransoming members of low-level minor noble houses
@jdvizcainoarmand
2 жыл бұрын
im so sad how it ended, it really hurts. This season and season one are the most rewachable tv out there. It cemented my love for what fantasy can achieve, and it was destroyed by wanting to jump ship. I mean, I understand not wanting to remain on a same project forever, but come on, we all have been on dead end jobs, just to support ourselves. It is incomprehensible how you would like to leave a high paying job and a passion project to just gobble up more of them, and ruin your reputation on the process.
@bplup6419
2 жыл бұрын
There was a previous video where someone in the comments said Season 7 was better cause it had action instead of boring dialogue. These people are actually real.
@ТеймуразШалелашвили-л6е
2 жыл бұрын
I partly agree. From the other hand, Dany's Qwart subplot is the most boring of all seasons. IMO
@Soydrinker999
2 жыл бұрын
ive seen people say seasons 5-7 are better than 2 and im thinking what the fuck are you smoking?
@IAmNumber4000
2 жыл бұрын
Character development?? Who tf wants that when you can see a CGI zombie bear fight? /s of course
@fine93
2 жыл бұрын
season 2 is the best lots of great scenes and fucking Stanis the One True King!
@GeraltOfArabia
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate the Elden Ring OST playing in the background
@josh23062
2 жыл бұрын
Hear me out... Sansa deliberately withheld info on the Vale, hoping Jon would go in with his loyalists and die, removing Sansa's only rival for Winterfell. Not only does this explain a big plot hole, it builds Sansa's character as a true political player. She never liked Jon anyway, always referring to him as her 'bastard half brother', so seeing northerners viewing him as a Stark anyway stung at her pride and belief she is better than him. She knew they would pick him over her so she plotted to remove her only rival while also defeating ramsey in such a way that kept her own forces (the Vale) at full strength. Instead Jon lived, was named the hero of the BotB, and King in the North. If he'd died, that would be Sansa at the end of the s6
@victorc8855
2 жыл бұрын
That could be a thing if it was set up or implicated in any way - which could have been done if they had bothered to think of a way for the Vale army to end up in winterfell in the first place. Remember, the Boltons had retaken Moat Cailin from the Greyjoys and Winterfell is literally right on the middle of the North. There's absolutely no way that a host that large would make it there unnoticed, especially in winter and having to supply them and horses. So let's say White Harbor has a plan to betray the Boltons and they somehow hide the arrival of an Arryn fleet, who then sail up the White Knife(if not frozen) - But Sansa gets them delayed by a few hours to try and get Jon killed. Would've been about a million times better
@josh23062
2 жыл бұрын
@@victorc8855 yeah of course the practicalities would have to be explained a little. Presumably the manderly s would ship the arryn army up there
@aaronjackman4037
2 жыл бұрын
I always felt they were building this up, that Sansa had learned from and was becoming Cersei and little finger, but I think the writers changed their mind halfway through or didn't understand what was happening
@josh23062
2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronjackman4037 I feel like D&D weren't capable or willing to write more complex characters with murky morals. They wanted Sansa a clear cut feminist heroine to appeal to the female audience, so hesitated from having her do anything the could paint her as the bad guy. Even though it would make her a more interesting character. The villains were all bad, the good guys all good. Same problem with Daenerys s turn... they had to turn her full wack job rather than make her burning KL a more complex decision
@aaronjackman4037
2 жыл бұрын
@Josh le Pla , Hbo probably should have fired them after season 7.
@mrchopsap528
2 жыл бұрын
I fucking love season two, especially Stannis the god damn Mannis
@flamingmuffin666
2 жыл бұрын
For me, season 2 has a massive amount of individually awesome scenes. But something is awkward about it. S1 had the pressure to carry the weight to prove the show could be more than 1 season. S3 was the show hitting its stride, Leaving S2 waddling about, unsure of its pacing, but full of potential. “Oh we’re a show now, um, what do we do?”
@BloodIncantationTab
2 жыл бұрын
bad take. Elaborate
@flamingmuffin666
2 жыл бұрын
@@BloodIncantationTab S2 has some odd pacing. S1 had left lines for S2, but S2 had to establish lines for S3, S4 etc, it had to lay out the firmament for deviating from the book in a way which doesn’t take away from the quality. S1 has a distinct feel for it, same with S3 and 4, S2 has a mix, like it doesn’t know exactly what it wants or needs to be, it’s not “bad” I’m saying, it’s like witnessing growing pains.
@garym6338
Жыл бұрын
@@flamingmuffin666 S2 did a lot right though, but aside from the battle of blackwater, season did not have much in the way of climaxes. It was very much about the journey. Even S1 had more climaxes to plotlines (Ned’s death, Drogo’s death leading to birth of dragons, Northern Lords deciding to secede from 7 kingdoms and name Robb King in the North, etc, Tyrion’s trial by combat in the Vale, etc). What S2 did have was a lot of great storytelling in every episode and so many great plotlines: *Awesome introduction to new characters like Stannis, Ser Davos, Melisandre, Brienne, Balon and Yara. *War of the 5 Kings *Arya escaping King’s Landing with Yoren, then being taken as a prisoner to Harrenhal and being cupbearer to Lord Tywin, then escaping Harrenhal with Gendry, Hot Pie and Lommy thanks to the help of Jaqen Hagar. *The best King’s Landing plotlines in whole series, culminating in the brilliant Battle of Blackwater Bay *Theon returning home to the Iron Islands, then sacking Winterfell.
@mattelwood980
2 жыл бұрын
Rewatching the series over the past couple weeks season 2 has definitely been one of my favorites. It really sets everyone up for their eventual falls in the later seasons
@melissablackwood
2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see something about the awesome early seasons of GOT, it makes me sad. You all know why. No explanation needed.
@Ims51
Жыл бұрын
tyrion vs cersei dialouge S 1-4 was 10/10 character insight. Both actors were delivering lines with duch authenticency that i'd forget for a second that its acting. .example - the scene where tyrion says something like " nothing like a late blooming philosopher" to cersei. Cersei responds with " you were always funny , i give you that". Its simple,yet given their relationship dynamic, its an amazing cersei moment. And i always hated her, except in that scene.
@anonymousnate678
2 жыл бұрын
This is the season where the show began to have the potential of being the best of all-time and seasons 3 and 4 made it seem like it was going to be the best TV show ever. Then they went off book and forgot all the great character development in the first 2 seasons and rushed to the end without explaining any motivations along the way.
@RsChrisG
Жыл бұрын
Tywin, the one character I wish would have made it to the end. Seeing him go from being all powerful, to then seeing dragons/white walkers and realizing how pointless everything he stood for was compared to what was actually going on combined with how fucking amazing Charles Dance is as an actor would have probably made the later seasons A LOT better on it's own.
@doctoralla2067
2 жыл бұрын
Supercut I'm a huge fan of your videos. They are some of the funniest videos I've seen on KZitem. I used to watch you a LOT during lunch breaks at work. I quit that job by the way so I can become self-employed cause you know you got to have that sigma male grindset. Keep up the amazing work man :D
@doctoralla2067
2 жыл бұрын
OMG I got a like from Supercuts......just made my day :D
@RsChrisG
2 жыл бұрын
Arya and Tywins scenes were always some of my favorites. idk why, but the actors especially tywin are so talented.
@captainblighe7297
2 жыл бұрын
Black water is one of the best episodes of live action television *Period*. Imo
@zora508
2 жыл бұрын
Good choice of music in the beginning of the voice makes me want George to write a book for elden ring history but that would take forever
@Shootskas
Жыл бұрын
3:05 Considering that I continued watching through all these Seasons because I wanted to see full grown dragons breathing fire and white-walkers invading the south, I didn't mind the action.
@Darrell9000
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 was the best. It had the great writing of season 1, but the production values went way up in season 2. Also, the battle at Blackwater was amazing.
@paulbruno4894
2 жыл бұрын
Great video but I must point out that I believe "Quaithe" rhymes with "eighth." It's not pronounced "Kwathy."
@maxt5319
2 жыл бұрын
Can tell you've never read the books because you attribute many good scenes to GRRM. However, D&D wrote the vast majority of additional scenes that are not in the books. For example, the scenes with Arya and Tywin aren't in the books. Roose Bolton is in control of Harrenhal when Arya is the cupbearer. Many of Littlefinger's scenes aren't in the books either. D&D are given so much of the hate because of seasons 7 & 8, and yet they aren't respected enough for their previous writing. It used to be great because they were excellent (for the most part) at adapting when they cared.
@bobbyreyes7474
Жыл бұрын
STANNIS Is why season 2 was so great. Him and Tywin carried that season.
@shadowthehedgehog3113
2 жыл бұрын
I literally JUST finished rewatching Season 2 yesterday. LMAO!
@Cunnysmythe
2 жыл бұрын
No battle ever lived up to the Blackwater, they started too strong and never matched it
@lobolunar1049
2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this battle in the show,is that it happens at night and we can actually see everything
@Bulletproof0208
2 жыл бұрын
Hi bro. You tube paid for this video to you?
@johndreyer9730
2 жыл бұрын
I wish they would of kept focusing on the politics, I didn't really care about another zombie story line, I loved the politics.
@NuggetEternal
2 жыл бұрын
There's so much more in dialogue type scenes that could have been explored with Cersei being Queen, Dany eventually becoming evil and destroying everything, and The Night King and the undead. Instead, all that potential was squandered and undercooked.
@carmina-solis
7 ай бұрын
i really think that the early seasons of GOT shine in the dialogue only scenes. i know everyone brings it up, but the cersei/robert scene in S1 is one of, if not THE, best in that season and the show on the whole.
@thecollectergreat9445
2 жыл бұрын
I loves GOT season the first episode but what declared it as the best show in T.V history for me was Tyrion's speech in season 4 being the only scene I repeated several times and couldn't get over the fact that how good a show can keep getting.
@vincenzobonadonna4556
5 ай бұрын
The Battle of the Blackwater episode is my favorite episode, alongside The Watchers on the Wall.
@jacksonrodio472
2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video season 2 was amazing only thing was I got taken out of it a bit everytime when you said battle of the 5 kings instead of war of the 5 kings
@RsChrisG
Жыл бұрын
How I rank every season 1. Season 1 2. Season 3 3. Season 2 4. Season 4 5. Season 6 6. Season 7 7. Season 8 8. Season 5 Don't let our bias cloud your judgement, season 5 was dog shit outside of hardhome and Jons death.
@Ims51
Жыл бұрын
Yes, season 5 was bad. Its where the decline started and also the most boring season.
@LimitBreakr424
2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about making videos for declines of individual characters?
@jamesbell1206
2 жыл бұрын
Theon Greyjoy as a leading character, like he's supposed to be. Before the show became completely lowest common denominator and they started attributing screen time based solely on how hot/"funny"/Arya the characters were. Thanks for this video! As much as people hype 3 and 4 (sometimes 1) as the best seasons, season 2 was my favourite. It was the one where I transitioned from merely loving the show to being _obsessed_ with it, something I've never felt for any other story before or since. It's what turned me onto the books, then it grew even more. Obviously seasons 5, 6, 7 and 8 took that joy and replaced it with hatred as early as 5/6, numbness/indifference by 7, then none-stop laughter on 8 (maybe it was all worth it after all?).
@gregoriogutierrez3756
4 ай бұрын
I wish I could do what this guy did and re-watched the series but I couldn't stomach it knowing where it ends
@laurab6687
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always! Absolutely love the Elden Ring and Skyrim music in the background, all my favourite things all together!
@Losbil6972
2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it. Maybe the best season along with Tywin's plots and Stannis plans in S3 that gives you this vibe of "Game of thrones"
@josuebernal6026
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is got to be one of my fav seasons and it feels like tyrion is our protagonist through the whole season
@Hejdo8
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t and still don’t really like Stannis, boring dude. What do people see in him?
@AkatsukiTwoPointZero
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Witcher 3 soundtrack in the background so much. It fits really well.
@soren7550
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is also when we get Margaery Tyrell in all her glory. 😋
@lokidoki525
2 жыл бұрын
@supercuts delight can you make a Video about how you would fix seasons 7 and 8? I know you did one for season 8 already, but it was only a minor fix, so i would be really interested to see what you can do with more time.
@jacobseed2123
2 жыл бұрын
Season 2 is great because of Stannis the Mannis
@barakat4422
2 жыл бұрын
I love that you’re using the regal ancestor spirit’s ost!
@reinsaxony4623
2 жыл бұрын
Book fans actually had many complains about S2 back in the day ( though still thought was overall great ). But after seasons 5-8, nobody does even remember of the adaptation issues we often would complain about back in the earlier seasons.
@juicypineapple6995
2 жыл бұрын
You have to make "Why Season 3 of Game of Thrones is so Fantastic!"😍 It's my favorite Season! Daenerys is my favorite character, and this is her best Season🧡
@NekoHibaCosplay
2 жыл бұрын
the last really good season ;(
@Vanninwg
2 жыл бұрын
@@NekoHibaCosplay 4 was great
@kelvinadu2284
2 жыл бұрын
@@NekoHibaCosplay who's an edgy boy
@Logan-dk8of
2 жыл бұрын
in the battle of the blackwater, when half of Stannis's fleet gets blown up and he still decides to land and even knowing thousands will die before even getting to shore, that sent chills down my spine, the sheer determination to win even if he is the only man still standing at the end and his entire army is dead
@raiusdaltar1483
2 жыл бұрын
After 7 and 8, even the good seasons are fucking horrible now.
@pevipenisstein6040
2 жыл бұрын
i swear to god if arya didnt run she would have become the new hair to casterly rock
@thedragondemands5186
2 жыл бұрын
Actually it had bizarre departures from the books just to show off the actors, a trend that got worse later: Robb/Talisa, Arya talking with Tywin, Qarth, etc
@Mj_Jetson
2 жыл бұрын
Qarth is hard because the book plot doesn't make too much sense. Its not clear why no one didn't just take or kill Dany's dragons. Its not clear how much power the Pureborn hold in ruling the city, versus the Thirteen, Spicers, Tourmaline Guild, Warlocks, and wildcards like Quaithe. Dany just kinda hangs out, overstays her welcome and leaves. Dany would probably have to revisit Qarth in TWoW to bring closure to the plot. So I can understand why D&D decided to completely change it, even if their decision created problems down the road.
@Necroxion
2 жыл бұрын
There's another layer of tragedy missed out by swapping Jeyne Westerling for Talissa Maegyr Tywin later has the Freys spare Jeyne, and treats Jeyne and her family well in the books. Too well. In fact, the Westerlings are distantly related with the Lannisters. The implication is that Tywin actually planted Jeyne as an agent EDIT: Hey I forgot that Jeyne was actually pregnant with Robb's kid See, going off of Preston Jacob's House of the Dragon analysis, it appears that the best claim for succession is the oldest descendant of the oldest son - meaning Jeyne's kid actually has a stronger claim for inheriting Winterfell than all of the surviving Stark kids. This could probably affect the Northern conspiracy subplot due to having another heir in play, on top of the Pink Letter subplot, as the attempt to recruit Jon or dispose of Jon now has more possible actors or opposers - someone allied with the Westerlings And this is gonna get even muddier considering the Robb's heir subplot. Theory has it that Robb made Jon or Sansa heir as Bran, Rickon, and Arya were missing. Sansa is the less likely one due to that time Cersei held her hostage and made her write a letter to stop Robb from continuing the war, while Robb is likely to assume Jon learned some leadership skills or discipline in Castle Black
@wallythewondercorncake8657
2 жыл бұрын
Jeyne wasn't pregnant. A big plot point in the books was that she was locked away to prove Robb didn't have an heir.
@TheGuitarislove
2 жыл бұрын
My fav season is season 4 just cause it’s so.. cool lol. But season 2 is def the best
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
2 жыл бұрын
My top 3 seasons of television ever: 3. Breaking Bad season 5 2. Black Sails season 3 1. Game Of Thrones season 2
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