No wonder I've mistaken some neighborhoods for my own even when I'd be 50 miles away.
@peripateticmind8461
5 жыл бұрын
@@motorsphere356 hUh
@jimmypham8853
5 жыл бұрын
hUh
@alquinn8576
5 жыл бұрын
there is a classic Russian romantic comedy about this called _The Irony of Fate, or Enjoy Your Bath!_ -- the different neighborhoods are in Leningrad and Moscow but have identical apartment complexes
@op3129
5 жыл бұрын
doesn't help that the houses are homogenized as well
@ttp3344
4 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one experiencing the kafkaesque reality of America’s surbubia haha
@itsleonkremer
5 жыл бұрын
Suburbplans often look great on paper. But the community does not stop at the edges of the paper. Many suburbs are islands with little connection to the city, unless you get into a car. That is we're American and many other city's planners need te work on.
@ChadHutsebautfilms
5 жыл бұрын
Leon Kremer that really is one of the biggest problems with them. Cities here in Canada have the same issues. My suburban Neighbourhood has no real connection to the rest of the city. It’s just a pocket of housing with no shops and no reason for someone who doesn’t leave here to come in. But when you go closer to downtown you start to see Neighbourhoods with grid layouts and shops, cafes, Restaurants and Unique character. There’s actually a reason for people not living in those neighbourhoods to enter them because they’re not just an island of housing, they’re a part of the city.
@anthonymolina7416
5 жыл бұрын
Chad Hutsee same I like on Long Island and to get to NYC you need to drive or take a train
@TheFutureEvents
5 жыл бұрын
It’s called zoning they zone certain places for certain things
@calebd.9008
5 жыл бұрын
Where*
@GershwinDecoBeck
5 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY look great on paper. And hideous in reality.
@Luka-gs7us
5 жыл бұрын
As a european it's so weird to see streets without a pavement/sidewalk. Where tf are you supposed to walk?
@jjc5475
5 жыл бұрын
Americans don't walk. They drive, travel 3 km? Lemme take a car.
@Luka-gs7us
5 жыл бұрын
@@jjc5475 To be fair, I would drive everywhere if the only way to walk was down the middle of the road.
@Kluneberg
5 жыл бұрын
Same. Even worse is that with this type of urban design there is nowhere to walk to, it's a neighborhood that is nothing but only (the same looking)houses - no stores, venues or any other type of building, nothing in walking distance.
@Fume1337
5 жыл бұрын
bios47 you mean gated communities
@kamX-rz4uy
5 жыл бұрын
Sidewalks are common in American suburbs but yes, many do lack them, especially on streets with less traffic.
@Goruko562
5 жыл бұрын
So that's why it takes forever to walk anywhere in America
@djwestbrook36
5 жыл бұрын
Bel562 Not all of America, just most of the suburbs
@skepticanadian3041
5 жыл бұрын
Canada too
@kottonkandy0962
4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how some foreigners think that it’s an easy pop from NYC to Austin and make a trip to a Los Angeles in a week.. like haha, no honey.
@urai9438
4 жыл бұрын
my neighborhood had sidewalks and pathways everywhere. And sadly, a lot of crime as a result. You see, people from different neighborhoods would have easy access to mine, (which was like middle class) and they would steal things often since there were many walkways and escape routes. This is why we cannot have nice things.
@dapluug
4 жыл бұрын
@@urai9438 Then go get to robbing. Adapt to ur environment my boy 😂😂😂 not that hard
@ongoinglife
4 жыл бұрын
High Walkability and Local Stores make a City and Suburb (economically) VIBRANT. Amerca was too dependent on cars over the past 6 decades.
@mintheman7
3 жыл бұрын
They also make a city more sustainable financially since they generate for revenue for the city.
@planetdesign4681
3 жыл бұрын
American suburbs seem so alien to me, as an Australian that has lived mostly in suburbs, I’m much more familiar with being able to walk basically everywhere with small little shops and milk bars (the Australian version of those little stores that sell candy/lollies and drinks) in the nooks and crannies of the suburbs. When you go for a walk and you want to go on a bit of an adventure it is always so easy to get lost in the sprawling streets, sidewalks going between houses into different streets and like the hundreds of little nature walkways that can go on for a long time, it’s like a spiders web of streets, walkways and discovering small monuments and little-known stores tucked away in the crevices of the city.
@eyesofthecervino3366
Жыл бұрын
TIL Australia is more walkable than the US. That does sound absolutely lovely, though.
@oliverlesher8321
4 жыл бұрын
As a resident of Midlothian, VA, I can promise you that the majority of neighborhoods around here look exactly like Hallsley, and many new builders gravitate towards the area to build new expensive neighborhoods due to the highly awarded schools, but there’s a big catch, now that so many neighborhoods are here, all the high schools are facing overcrowding (Namely, Cosby / Midlo High. / Clover Hill). And overall, the smaller streets and roads can’t keep up with the influx. So while these families pursue beautiful neighborhoods and nice schools they’re destroying both.
@jesusdavis2941
2 жыл бұрын
I live in a Latin American city that has a mix of both layouts: the eastern older part of town follow grid pattern; now to the west and mainly inside neighborhoods it adjusts to topography, still the areas are relatively small, dense and walkable (but no one likes to walk unless they're forced to) and you can reach a main avenue within 1 km
@hky1045
5 жыл бұрын
While suburbs have their advantages, they kind of have the same level of sterile conformity of things like school uniforms.
@salokin3087
5 жыл бұрын
In Sydney we have a similar problem, it just sprawls out paving over creeks and billabongs instead of affordable apartments, makes me so sad
@smam741
5 жыл бұрын
At least there are a lot of older houses which have variety
@mikieswart
5 жыл бұрын
“if a neighborhood is to retain stability, it is necessary that properties shall continue to be occupied by the same social and racial classes” 😳 jeeesus lol welcome to the “good ol’ days” of the 1950’s!
@tigerburn81
5 жыл бұрын
Is that untrue? Isn't this the underlying, unstated, argument _against_ "gentrification", when middle class white people move into poorer, (usually) black city neighborhoods?
@ez45
5 жыл бұрын
@@tigerburn81 actually, mixed neighborhoods with wealthier and poorer people are healthy communities. Gentrification is just rich people swarming neighborhoods until the locals are driven out.
@IloveTide1997
5 жыл бұрын
Time has shown us that this is true
@MySerpentine
5 жыл бұрын
This is when they think America was great
@Texbullnettle
5 жыл бұрын
@tigerburn81 "retain stability" and retain costability are totally different.
@citation51power
4 жыл бұрын
They also completely forgot about orientation of sections to allow the longest side to face north or south if you are in the us, to allow the largest side of any built home to collect the winter sun and reduce to much heating in summer. So not only are we dependent on car's to get around but air-conditioning and heating are must haves to.
@boythefather9868
2 жыл бұрын
Completely right, in the Philippines, we have to much sunlight for us in any of the directions.
@johnnguyen6159
5 жыл бұрын
In some areas, suburbs destroyed once vibrant cities.
@kevincastro1927
4 жыл бұрын
@I HATE TOUCANS this are the people that have gun violence in school and instead of solving the social political issues they turn the schools into a prison like architecture
@Kevin-it4fh
4 жыл бұрын
@I HATE TOUCANS lol, what else do you expect us to do? It's the corrupt politicians that either create or does nothing about problems.
@leonhardpauli5815
4 жыл бұрын
I live in Austria in Graz and I think uniqueness is also great for navigation, because I think it is easier to remember unique patterns of the streets.
@harmony453
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Southern Suburbs of Chicago, and I can agree, our streets go 🔄↖️⬆️⬇️↘️➡️↩️
@limagalang
5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I'm watching a video 20 seconds after it was posted
@KanchalYT
5 жыл бұрын
Lima Funla yeah
@vicepresidentmikepence889
5 жыл бұрын
Don't expect a medal for your accomplishment
@dylmwidner
2 жыл бұрын
Worst part about a suburb that you aren’t familiar with is if you’re driving in the direction you think you should be going, you might be on the wrong street at the end. I do prefer main streets connecting to small streets with arms of even smaller streets over a huge grid pattern, and if you can incorporate shopping centers or mini-outlet type destinations every quarter mile or so, you can make the suburban layout much easier on the mind.
@oscarmejia1811
5 жыл бұрын
3:08 I don’t don’t why but, the word Asbestos always makes me laugh. I’m soo sorry 😂
@pascal5566
4 жыл бұрын
Look at the sheer size of property you have in a suburb! I think that is also a letdown for communication among the residents. I live in Germany and the property I'm living on is 10 meters wide. In our garden we "only" have a simple fence that keeps us away from our neighbours. Not that this is a bad thing. In contrary, it gets us to talk. As a result of that, the whole street I live in does an annual little party in summer with a tent and food and everything. Just because everybody knows anybody else. If you have a property that is wide with like 40 meters and more and cheap on top. Good for you. But you isolate yourself the more land you own around you.
@karito1358
2 жыл бұрын
I live in the lesser-developed part of town and for that I am grateful. Our houses are different sizes, materials and colors. In the center there's an elementary school in which the neighboring kids attend. After class families come to play on the playgrounds whilst church-led baseball teams use the field. Our streets might be cracked but they're well used:)
@salter1630
5 жыл бұрын
As a guy who lives in suburban FL, the lack of walkability/public transport to get around is just awful. It's not like public transport is incredibly unpopular here; it's just difficult to implement when everything is somewhat sporadically distributed.
@TheNessa284
5 жыл бұрын
A slow death living in a suburb.
@bobjones7413
5 жыл бұрын
Vox surprises me every time.
@ArkyWhiteKnight
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to live in such a beautiful place ... but I live in a periphery of Brazil, which is extremely depressing.
@jaddyrose9318
2 жыл бұрын
The topographic planted separation line is not terribly large but the fact it exists… cray
@miguelcosta8779
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like suburbs in the US feel so lonely and just houses and houses... No one walks in the streets...
@atinygoldendeer2045
3 жыл бұрын
I've been getting interested in 3D modeling and city design and this is really interesting. I initially started making a grid design but I'm totally applying this to the most far away zones :O It's also super choking to see SO MANY houses. I only see houses in towns (cheaper ones are either old (like the family has always lived there) or very small) and the outside of the cities, and these are usually very expensive
@spencerlynds2450
5 жыл бұрын
The standard culdesac subdivision design is also the most efficient way to place lots for developers. More Lots = More Houses = More Return for investment. Zoning bylaws held by towns and septic regulations also play a huge role in maintaining this model.
@thelordnaevis4946
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always lived in a townhouse-like neighborhood (the houses are all connected side to side) so it feels weird that houses even have windows and rooms at the sides of the house
@jamestucker8088
3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about suburbs isn't that you have to drive everywhere. Its that you only have boring places to go to like franchise restaurants in malls.
@mihael64
2 жыл бұрын
I read this as "Why do so many sburbs look the same" and it still made sence
@Ergogeorge
5 жыл бұрын
a big influence on these ideas - especially radburn - was Ebenezer Howard's theory of the garden city in the 1800s. fascinating to look in to if you get the chance
@sawyerstallard4117
3 жыл бұрын
“Where I grew up I couldn’t tell if the noises were fireworks or gunshots”
@jackreacher4297
4 жыл бұрын
City’s will be a lot more harmonious when they start being built in concentric circles instead of seemingly random chaos
@s_ame1135
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Concentric cities define futuristic dystopia. The problem is, concentric urban planning requires a large amount of landmass. Perfect for the US, China, India, Canada, and Russia but not for the rest of the world.
@LORDOFDORKNESS42
5 жыл бұрын
Little boxes, little boxes, on the hill-side, and they're all made from ticky-tacky~!
@jlottie8218
5 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this out of curiosity and blew my mind that my hometown was mentioned in the first minute
@iterumm
4 жыл бұрын
suburbs are weird...i grew up in one outside of atlanta, just a half hour drive, and they couldn’t be more opposing. there’s no personality to anything, it’s all stamped out by my neighborhood’s hoa run by busybodies with an iron fist. they’re probably still mad we planted bamboo like 10 years ago. my friend moved in across the street from me, he’s brazilian, and he always says it’s so odd that you can’t walk to everything, it’s so spread out, and while it’s so vast it feels like there’s nothing to do. he, my brother and i drove through some neighborhood streets in atlanta to avoid some traffic on the way to a show and the streets had 50s bungalows, modern architecture, tudor-style places. beautiful, intriguing buildings. now i live in a small town towards the north of the state to attend university, and even here the creeping tendrils of suburbian void seeps in. weird stuff.
@dianastacey919
3 жыл бұрын
Expensive house means no access to rapid transit without a car. Huge parking problem at rapid transit lots. If you are elderly or disabled you are forced to move out of your home. Expensive houses do have sidewalks and trees here. I specifically wanted that and everybody walks their dogs in our neighborhood. In my old neighborhood no sidewalks meant trying to avoid falling in a ditch. Kids walking to buses or me walking to a bus (an exception to the rule) meant a good chance of being run over. There wasn't a curb you were just lucky or not.
@adamberry6637
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm from Midlothian, Virginia!
@johngreer6689
5 жыл бұрын
Adam Berry Wow! I'm from Midlothian, Scotland (the original Midlothian)!
@epicgamerguy305
5 жыл бұрын
Same, the familiarity with suburbia is what made me click on the video to begin with.
@9bloodsugarsexmagik9
5 жыл бұрын
I've work on houses in Hallsley. When the video started I thought to myself "That looks just like Hallsley"!
@AnotherPaulShin
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Midlothian!
@justaction
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love institutional and socioeconomic racism, smh.
@tenaciouslyawesome
4 жыл бұрын
I think the point most people aren't getting is people who live in suburbs don't want to live in a city and prefer to have a more quiet life. On long island many people live in the suburbs but take the train in to NYC to work. We have plenty of small towns with shops and night life.
@djwestbrook36
5 жыл бұрын
I always tell people who visit America, for them to check out cities and the countryside. You may as well skip the suburbs
@jhasel189
5 жыл бұрын
What brought you to Richmond?? Plan on doing any episodes on the local politics around the Lost Cause mythology?
@FedoraMiaza
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Vox! Can we please have a schedule from you for the different series you upload (Ex. Darkroom every X day or Almanac every Y day). Thankyou! Btw, love your videos.
@reillycurran8508
5 жыл бұрын
Are there any revisions to the plans going into effect now that some of the drawbacks are becoming more evident? Like how the more twisty and windy streets and limited entrances make life much harder for elderly people who lose access to their cars due to being unable to drive.
@insidethecourt
5 жыл бұрын
Feel like this video was working up to a point but then just ended.
@ecclairmayo4153
4 жыл бұрын
Hahah I thought it was just me
@ezequielrenovato6608
5 жыл бұрын
Those old timey clips at 1:45, where do yall find them at? Or do yall make them yall selves?
@PurpleMintSam
5 жыл бұрын
This video makes me feel like playing some old-school SimCity
@jtillmon
4 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see that this segment didn’t avoid the fact that our government owned a leading role in defining inequality, disadvantage, & developing the wealth gap between black & white in this country. Anyone lecturing ppl to pull themselves by their own bootstraps has never had the clenching pressure of the most powerful government in history biting into their side at every turn. This along with hundreds of other examples is firm proof that reparations for American descendants of slavery should be payed. An estimated $12-$20 Trillion in reparations is owed. 🇺🇸
@1CombustionMan
5 жыл бұрын
Suburban sprawl is so horrible omg. Imagine having to use your car just to get to the corner store and getting to your friend on thr other side of town.......and every distance in between.
@aidanclaudel7670
5 жыл бұрын
Yo I live in Midlothian Virginia and Hallsley is where a ton of my friends live
@Quintons
4 жыл бұрын
I live 3 miles from here and I must say it is so nice
@frankpinmtl
5 жыл бұрын
The key phrase: "...while also guaranteeing that cars were necessary to get around." (Ford, GM and Chrysler stand up and cheer as one)
@frankpinmtl
5 жыл бұрын
@Craig F. Thompson Yes - back in the day, before Japanese cars cornered the market, it was the big three.
@Michellenewberg
5 жыл бұрын
I live in Radburn!! So cool to finally get some recognition.
@justinmoore3088
5 жыл бұрын
Reston, VA is a the example you should've used.
@jolievalentine6760
5 жыл бұрын
When one of the through-streets in these neighborhoods is under construction and becomes a one-way, you cannot travel within the neighborhood from house to house, you can only leave or enter the neighborhood. As the video stated, you can’t even just park and walk. And as I discovered this week, navigation apps are powerless to solve the riddle.
@hamsteerio
5 жыл бұрын
Heres what they did to design suburbs. Also heres the racist fence they made. They made a fence of racism. Omg.
@hamsteerio
5 жыл бұрын
I mean walls are physically better than fences
@atticusbeachy3707
5 жыл бұрын
@Roy G Biv Do you know what happens to Americans who illegally enter Mexico? They get arrested. Mexico also has fencing along its southern boarder with Guatemala. Nothing wrong with copying Mexico's border enforcement policies!
@atticusbeachy3707
5 жыл бұрын
@Roy G Biv Do you have anything to say that isn't mindless snark?
@atticusbeachy3707
5 жыл бұрын
@Roy G Biv I didn't think so. . .
@1L6E6VHF
4 жыл бұрын
@@atticusbeachy3707 The irony is true. I think I would love living in Mexico, but not in a CEFERESO facility! From what I've read, it's almost impossible to legally move from USA to Mexico.
@EDMINGREVIEWS
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the "Sims" like intro music for this video.
@charlesfrey660
4 жыл бұрын
Conformity breeds value. Well done vid.
@markcarey8426
4 жыл бұрын
That was good. I live on a dead-end road and the nieghbours and I like it like that because we get more chance to see who's going up and down the road. Walkways are being sealed off at our local town because it makes it easier for police to catch people on foot. The ideal town, I believe, is based around cheap (if not free), reliable, frequent, attractive public transport.
@CF-3300
5 жыл бұрын
Most houses (at least the 90’s ones) in my subdivision have the same basic layout but with slight variations. That includes my house. But I’ve only seen 2 other houses with the EXACT same layout.
@jonnda
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer grid plans for better integration into the surrounding town, and for less confusion when trying to navigate through a neighborhood.
@reneejanssen4953
5 жыл бұрын
I love Phil Edwards, his Vox videos are awesome and he is a great presenter
@punchaim1708
2 жыл бұрын
dude do you guys ever get so high that you end up like zoning out on a vid and watch the whole thing without realising sheesh!!!
@charlotteice5704
5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great idea to have the cars and roads at the back of the house.
@nicoleh8564
5 жыл бұрын
no one: reads title: apush students: *little boxes flashback* *L-Levittown!?!?*
@thehockeyfan8888
5 жыл бұрын
nerd
@ReyeS000Il
3 жыл бұрын
I hate the suburbs, it's just a repeating pattern of houses, with the same atmosphere, people act the same and do the same thing day by day. It's like living in a utopia, I hate it.
@ArtanisKizrath
5 жыл бұрын
I just hate everything about the concept of a "suburban place." From its history of segregation, to the design preference on personal vehicles (and in turn disregard for public transportation), to the monotony of the designs among suburbs.
@dominioniwo5060
5 жыл бұрын
Personally, i prefer gridded streets, it gives a sense of order and organisation, i know where everything is and i can easily navigate it.
@bluscout-io8xs
3 жыл бұрын
In utah things are laid out in a grid pattern and are very organized
@kukumundi
3 жыл бұрын
And here we see how the American dream turned itself into a nightmare
@LM11116
4 жыл бұрын
my suburb has a similar layout but looks very different from the traditional "suburb". all of the other suburbs in town look traditional, but mine doesn't for some reason. it's on a huge hill, with a darker color street; sidewalks that vary from square to square in color, texture, and even angle; houses that differ wildly in style, age, size, and color; huge trees that are close together (my back yard is bounded in by a forest); and many houses have ivy instead of grass in front. any idea why this would happen in a town where the rest look "normal"?
@nathanbaribeau2833
5 жыл бұрын
Will VOX do a documentary on the rise and fall of the "Mc-mansion"? The ugliest housing projects in America.
@Haxerous
5 жыл бұрын
When there are't much option for public transport and pedestrians you know this is a bad idea.
@confusedcat1633
3 жыл бұрын
I once left my house for a jog. I got lost 😐
@Linda-sw8sk
4 жыл бұрын
When there is a fire YOU CAN NOT GET OUT with one way into the estate and one way out.
@evanhughes1510
3 жыл бұрын
Cant get out of a burning high rise building in a city either. You’d have to jump out the window. Which is what many people did on 9:11 in Nyc
@hoe-teendelvalle4626
5 жыл бұрын
The suburbs here in Fresno, CA are turning into business enclaves.
@catrinmelldansen
4 жыл бұрын
As a European it's so odd seeing SUCH big houses! Those are practically mansions by my standards
@xx_skullgamer_xx2754
4 жыл бұрын
As a canadian anything below 1500 sq ft is a prison cell
@Anna133199
4 жыл бұрын
@@xx_skullgamer_xx2754 I googled 1500 sq ft /139 sq m sounds quite huge to me. I grew up in a 55 sq m apartment in Amsterdam city center. Definitely cozy, but nowhere near a prison cell.
@KDH-br6hy
4 жыл бұрын
@@xx_skullgamer_xx2754 🤣🤣
@annikaruelo1383
4 жыл бұрын
We looked at one of those houses before and it looked to big outside but it was so small inside. That’s how it is with the suburban houses, they focus more on the outside then on the inside and it’s really tiny in there
@o.l4890
3 жыл бұрын
As a maroccan those are castles by our standards
@shaunaaaah
5 жыл бұрын
When you're someone who can't drive suburbs are an absolute hellscape. It takes ages to walk anywhere and the few buses there are are terrible.
@Ugly_German_Truths
5 жыл бұрын
But that is the intent, isn't it? Non-Drivers are "different", so it's not for them that the burb was constructed, it's to make everybody seem the same, including "class sorting" through pricing and such methods.
@stevepellow8618
5 жыл бұрын
And if you have car trouble and have to walk somewhere people tend to see someone walking without excercise gear on as unemployed, even when you're walking to work lol
@bigredc222
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a small town, but I dreamed of getting my license for years, you finally have freedom, you can go to friends houses from school that lived to far to walk to, you could explore the world, I can't imagine not having a drivers license.
@drdewott9154
5 жыл бұрын
@@bigredc222 I can, it's called Europe.
@kb24072001
5 жыл бұрын
@@bigredc222 I can do all that in my country by taking a bus.
@SonSolo
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Detroit. I love the city and the rectangular layout of the neighborhoods. It all felt like a community. You could walk to school, walk to the convenient store, walk to the barber shop, walk to the park and so on. During these walks you'd met people, saw others you already knew, and it helped you build relationships with people in your neighborhood. People lived in the front of their homes. There were always people sitting on the front porch and talking to their neighbors and people who passed by. I live in a suburb now. People live in back of their homes, on their patios and decks. People pull into the attached garage and go straight into their house. Now you have to drive to the schools, convenient stores, shops and parks. Suburbs are missing the key ingredients that make a neighborhood a community. Where the cities brought us together, the suburbs are helping to keep us apart.
@wendygold8527
4 жыл бұрын
I think that was the idea.
@srgvette28
4 жыл бұрын
Demographics are destiny. I'm sure the demographics of the Detroit your talking about are quite different than what they are now.
@nochatter7134
4 жыл бұрын
@Soloson North American’s don’t walk now, they take the car everywhere
@violet2088
4 жыл бұрын
Way to generalize hundreds of millions. I'm from New Jersey (very close to NYC) and I walk / take the train everywhere. Don't have a drivers license and won't for as long as I can muster.
@BillDerBerg
4 жыл бұрын
Rich White people are inherently anti social so they have no desire to connect with anyone
@HolybasilYT
5 жыл бұрын
Being so reliant on cars for transportation sounds so dystopian to me.
@Chrisc0Disc0
5 жыл бұрын
Henning Nilsen True, but in America the car is a symbol of freedom. If you have a car, you can go from LA to Miami without question. Yeah It’s limiting for short distances, but for longer distances with varying climates and cultures it’s fairly liberating.
@HolybasilYT
5 жыл бұрын
@@Chrisc0Disc0 Of course. My country is roughly the size of California so I totally understand the need for the car.
@ScoobyDooIsDead
5 жыл бұрын
Henning Nilsen It is.
@MintBunny9
5 жыл бұрын
How is it dystopian? Our history is different than yours which is why our cities/towns/whatever is built differently. :\
@rnurcielago
5 жыл бұрын
I feel the same, that’s why I only bike and use public transportation
@Slabfish
5 жыл бұрын
Did car companies pay big money for this kind of development? Especially with nothing being within walking distance of a suburb
@earthstar393
5 жыл бұрын
Cars are a big part of American culture I think. Now itr could be because the roads were made for them at the bidding of the motor companies, but it might be that the roads were made for cars because thats what most Americans focused on. I think the car was supposed to be a symbol of that classic American "freedom" that we hear so much about.
@chrizizdaman
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the car manufactures lobbied the government to expand the road infrastructure with the sole purpose to sell more automobiles.
@ritwikreddy5670
5 жыл бұрын
@@earthstar393 most American cities were built after cars became mainstream. Many cities around the world date back as old as 1000 years, which were mainly pedestrian
@ellarweegadsden8483
5 жыл бұрын
@Hernando Malinche Dr. G. You're right. It wasn't by accident. They sold people the suburbs with a slice of space and the 'freedom' to drive wherever you wanted to go. But, freedom didn't arrive the way it was expected. This is why urban areas needed to be segregated and marginalized to the extent possible. Then most suburbanites will feel some justification in trading in a cosmopolitan environment for a mind-numbing nothing one.
@joshruelas8435
5 жыл бұрын
Just gunna put this here, the main killer was Parking lots.
@necromancer2367
5 жыл бұрын
I wish public transport would be more integrated in neighbourhoods.
@ChurritoFrio
5 жыл бұрын
That's why Uber and Lyft exist now. To combat the public transportation problem. I'd say its pretty effective too
@braindead6611
4 жыл бұрын
It’s only work if the population is dense. Suburbs are more spread out
@redditstop1653
3 жыл бұрын
@@braindead6611 There's a box video where they show how Toronto made a efficient bus system in there suburbs. There suburbs are just like our suburbs.
@seraphina985
3 жыл бұрын
@@redditstop1653 It can be done, usually, some minor changes in the form of walking connections that feed pedestrians quickly to the suburban arterial will help. Ideally, you want the bus to be able to take a fairly direct quick route along the suburban arterial just make sure people can quickly walk over to the road and wait at a nice bus stop to get on the bus. If your bus needs to wind around low-speed suburban streets taking a 90-degree bend every few hundred meters chances are you won't attract many no matter how frequent the service. Nobody wants to spend an hour on the bus to get to a flipping grocery store use your walking network to bring people quickly and conveniently to the bus so it can do its one job of moving as many people as quickly and as directly as possible to where they need to be.
@shafo827
3 жыл бұрын
Visit Australia xd
@fustilarian1
5 жыл бұрын
suburbs are depressing, and there's nothing to do anywhere.
@darc6278
5 жыл бұрын
It isnt built for community but for practical logistics
@lu-dx6oh
5 жыл бұрын
@ersad Kaya suburbs are the most selfish artificial environment , but some people like living in their own little world so thats what their for. Apartments exist because land value is too high because people want to live in that particular area and a house would be too much for most people too afford.
@AlexS-oj8qf
5 жыл бұрын
The opposite for me, Cities tend to be too exciting and I rather lived in Suburbs because I prefer a more laid back lifestyle. Also cities can be depressing like you lived in an expensive shoebox often with no access to green space and 24/7 noise.
@asarwar111
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, when my cousins came from New York City to a small town where I live, they were bored the heck out. At least there is a public pool and playground. And bike trail. Other than that it's like 10 times smaller than the 35 quarter sack neighborhood in the video.
@acoffeewithsatan
5 жыл бұрын
Not having an home is depressing.
@zacharymohammadi
5 жыл бұрын
Because they were designed by Cities Skylines players
@brendancarlton7326
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you can tell when you're in an unmodded neighborhood.
@Ifoundnohappinesshere
5 жыл бұрын
When you hired New Mayor to design these suburbans
@enrique-casillas
5 жыл бұрын
Time to use the move it mod
@aturchomicz821
5 жыл бұрын
@@brendancarlton7326 Yeah blueberry tree short and big version for the win!
@vf2929
5 жыл бұрын
Haha nice one
@danielevans142
5 жыл бұрын
Little boxes on the hillside, Little boxes made of ticky tacky Little boxes on the hillside, Little boxes all the same
@fjellyo3261
5 жыл бұрын
Well, do you sell me some weed now or what?
@danielevans142
5 жыл бұрын
@@fjellyo3261 There's a pink one and a green one. And a blue one and a yellow one And they're all made out of ticky tacky And they all look just the same.
@agentsmidt3209
5 жыл бұрын
I forgot about this.
@ifonlycainwereabel2110
5 жыл бұрын
APUSH test vibe
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like housing under communism if everybody had a house for themselves.
@georgehowarth2388
5 жыл бұрын
City Beautiful and Vox both made a video on this in the same day
@Quadrophiniac
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, I literally watched the video on city beautiful and then this one came next lol
@justinemccloud7755
5 жыл бұрын
covers so much of the same information too. weird
@bigboy6191
5 жыл бұрын
Copied each other
@mr.b3168
5 жыл бұрын
Copy cats
@thisisbecker
5 жыл бұрын
+
@dragonskunkstudio7582
5 жыл бұрын
You took your car to the mall to walk. All urban planning was car centric in the post war era.
@Kejsaren
5 жыл бұрын
I am having trouble imagining a random house in between a McDonalds and a grocery store and thinking that's a good fit.
@BrickworksDK
5 жыл бұрын
@@Kejsaren I'd look at it the other way around. You need the random store / restaurant / whatever sprinkled in among the houses.
@dragonskunkstudio7582
5 жыл бұрын
@@Kejsaren There are tons of places where restaurants and shops are on the ground floor and housing above, even in those sleepy one traffic light towns have those.
@freshaswater1493
5 жыл бұрын
Allan Johansen where I live in Florida it has those random stores,restaurant ,malls and sidewalks that you could walk to them but no one really uses the sidewalks anymore everyone drives but surprisingly the traffic runs smoothly
@noellewithane6111
4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Skunk Studio and central run underground utilities for SEWER!
@lxverdant1837
5 жыл бұрын
The grid street plan is WAY better than the winding suburban street plan because you can actually WALK to the places you want to go. It gets tedious having to drive everywhere.
@altrag
5 жыл бұрын
Its really not that hard to make suburbs walkable. Just put in a path every dozen or so houses that connects to whatever surrounding streets and you're done. You still have to go the long way if you're driving, but walking becomes not much different than in a grid system. Oh, and put sidewalks back obviously (I'm in Canada and while we've adopted the US love of suburbs, we still keep the sidewalks -- mostly for the sake of safety since suburbs tend to attract families with young kids.) . Of course, having somewhere to walk to is a whole other question. The biggest problem with suburbs is that they tend to be houses only. There's rarely a corner store, and you're usually a good 10-30 minutes drive from the nearest full grocery store / mall.. and frequently that's driving at highway speeds (once you get out of the suburb itself,) making it a _long_ walk. A 10-15 minute drive at 30mph would be around 2 hours for the average walker. Each way. So even if the suburb itself is foot-navigable, you're still stuck taking a vehicle several times a week just to do basic things. . That can of course be somewhat alleviated by setting up the suburbs in a way that they can have easy access to public transportation (bus routes in particular.) There's not really any excuse in 2019 for suburb planners to be intentionally making that any more difficult than the sheer distances already dictate.
@PabloEmanuel96
5 жыл бұрын
It is not that good if the ground has diferent levels
@tofuyam7361
5 жыл бұрын
@@PabloEmanuel96 like san francisco?
@shmooveyea
5 жыл бұрын
High density grid will and does lead to concentrated lower class populations stacked on top of each other, don't see how thats better.
@ezequielrenovato6608
5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on where the neighborhood is located. I live in a grid street planned hood and the only places in walkable distance are corner stores at maybe a 10 minute walk. There's a park that's maybe 30-40 min walk but you might as well use a car.
@keiffactory
5 жыл бұрын
I truly hate the suburbs and American city layouts in general (with the exception of New York City). I hate the "drive everywhere mentality" and big box supermarkets, because they isolate people from everyone else. I admire the European and Asian city layouts, where the dense neighbourhoods allow the residents to communicate with one another, and most importantly, give the city its culture.
@neilworms2
5 жыл бұрын
There are other good American cities Chicago for one...
@keiffactory
5 жыл бұрын
@@neilworms2 I've spent some time in Chicago, and all I've got to say to you is that during my time there, I thought of Chicago as beautiful architectually, but terribly dull culturally. While the grid layout works in NYC, I feel like in Chicago's case, it made the city feel boring. However, I think San Francisco is another example of an American grid planning done right
@neilworms2
5 жыл бұрын
@@keiffactory You probably are from NYC aren't you :/
@alexanderg1935
5 жыл бұрын
Why do I think that your impression of European cities is derived from a period romcom? Densely packed cities are a dystopian nightmare. This very channel covered the horror of living in most of Hong Kong. And London and Paris are some of the most alienating cities on earth. You guys have a lot going for you. Believe me.
@joshruelas8435
5 жыл бұрын
I think you forget not everyone wants to live near each other, essentially a culture battle royale.
@2_kevinarikrayhan187
5 жыл бұрын
imagine living with the exact same house design with your neighbors
@Primalxbeast
5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Arik Rayhan Each housing development in central Florida usually only has a few model homes to choose from, so the houses are mostly the same. They're refered to as cookie cutter homes.
@greeksinger6399
5 жыл бұрын
It would be easier to escape when the husband comes home. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Jack-rk7jc
5 жыл бұрын
@@Primalxbeast Central Florida? You're not talking about Orlando are you? Because Orlando has some of the most diverse architecture and building design in any big city I've been to.
@kayleigheckhardt1465
5 жыл бұрын
My dad’s neighborhood has a street with literally the same two houses all the way down the street
@Primalxbeast
5 жыл бұрын
Jack M I'm talking about the suburbs of the greater Orlando area. Most of the developments are pre-planned with cookie cutter homes. It's been like that for quite awhile. I moved here in the mid 80s and that was already how they were being built.
@PaulFerzoco
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Kinda honored that my comments from that previous story have been cited. I meant to spark thought and it worked. Am happy!
@zabrak999
5 жыл бұрын
100% The internet provides a legitimate blessing in getting our thoughts out
@thecinematicmind
5 жыл бұрын
The frustration of bad design and lack of architecture variety.
@salter1630
5 жыл бұрын
@Bugler55 >city blocks this is a video about the suburbs, chief. My neighborhood has a total of 3 house designs, where there is a 1 story design with some optional upgrades like weird bricks on pillars and a total of 2, 2 story designs.
@dickiller2199
5 жыл бұрын
did you ever see Russian microdistricts?
@thecinematicmind
5 жыл бұрын
@Bugler55 Wrong video but yes in London. Surreal isn’t it?
@vnl2780
5 жыл бұрын
Sprawl is one of the biggest villains in urban planning today. Unfortunately, that's very deeply rooted in the heads of the Americans.
@lvseka
5 жыл бұрын
It's starting to happen in Africa too, but stopping a middle class that's bought into an idea of wealth is hard
@vnl2780
5 жыл бұрын
@Hernando Malinche South Africa
@shrek7957
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a car and you can start driving at 15. So not really a problem
@bigfungus5023
2 жыл бұрын
@@shrek7957 The cars are the problem, too many cars on the road
@simmerke1111
2 жыл бұрын
@@shrek7957 What about kids? They're just stuck at home until they turn 15-16? All the cars going to work in the morning causing congestion? All the roads need maintenance that the taxes of these suburbs can't pay for? There's so many issues that "everyone has a car" doesn't even begin a discussion.
@FabDino
5 жыл бұрын
me: boy, can’t wait to watch some youtube youtube: here’s a video on suburbs.
@felipealmeida7338
5 жыл бұрын
Lovin the suburb videos
@FabDino
5 жыл бұрын
Felipe Almeida yea actual there legendary
@nosquidsid4680
5 жыл бұрын
that story made me cry
@kenet7877
5 жыл бұрын
A good video on suburbs
@pieal7368
5 жыл бұрын
I hate suburbs, I live on the Main Street in my subdivision so it’s noisy and Anti-pedestrian. Worst of both designs.
@Qiyunwu
5 жыл бұрын
Same for me Give us this day our daily Anxiety Attacks
@s_ame1135
4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Don't buy houses on main arterial roads.
@danarrib
4 жыл бұрын
So... Why don't you move?
@pieal7368
4 жыл бұрын
@@danarrib cuz I’m 17
@moonontheman1103
5 жыл бұрын
Vox here dishing out questions I never though of answered!
@Half_Finis
5 жыл бұрын
just like "how many Muslims can we fit in western countries? all of them!"
@ezequielrenovato6608
5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean giving answers to questions you never thought to ask?
@MohammedAlBaraka
3 жыл бұрын
@@Half_Finiswhat? What does that have to do with anything?
@Jack-bh1mt
5 жыл бұрын
GTA San Andreas flashbacks Man Grove street is my childhood
@costcoadventures6256
4 жыл бұрын
BoggoDoggo throwback
@tommyboyz6291
4 жыл бұрын
I'm searching around looking for this comment
@LeoMkII
3 жыл бұрын
america: communism bad! also america: proceeds to make all houses the same and expensive
@Sub4CarClips
3 жыл бұрын
Not even that expensive but ok
@asdfghjkl3003
3 жыл бұрын
They aren't expensive. Houses here are way cheaper than most other developed countries. Also, not every american city is a suburb. There are plenty of walkable american cities.
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