If you heat mapped your city, what would it look like?
@potto1488
3 жыл бұрын
dont live in the city, village could probably be slightly yellow
@vulturu.x4329
3 жыл бұрын
if you stop bringing race in stuff that has nothing to do with race how would your videos look like?
@MrZZ-py4pq
3 жыл бұрын
no everyone lives in cities
@vids5374
3 жыл бұрын
Your mom
@vids5374
3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly getting sick of this climate conversation. These people are incapable of pivoting their conversation to the freaking conservatives who stopped us every time we try to fix something. They just keep complaining about the climate really the problem is these conservatives are keeping it going.
@modernkennnern
3 жыл бұрын
Who could've guessed removing heat-regulating systems (Plants and trees) and replacing it with dark surfaces would make it warmer..
@MrZZ-py4pq
3 жыл бұрын
yep
@issia9641
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@fionabologna1768
3 жыл бұрын
Shhh! Hush you, you make too much sense. That will get you labelled a reeeciss for some reason.
@porkypine602
3 жыл бұрын
its worst in lower income areas they plant less trees and have fewer greenspaces on average compared to higher income neighborhoods. Which makes no sense since wouldn't lower income areas benefit more from cooler homes since turning the AC on all summer cost too much
@majorwillm
3 жыл бұрын
Exhibit A singapore
@seasong7655
3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens if your city doesn't plant enough trees and builds too many roads
@MrZZ-py4pq
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@WaxierSteam7
3 жыл бұрын
Nope it’s got af in Texas
@RJL612
3 жыл бұрын
You should be out planting tulips.
@spocko2181
3 жыл бұрын
@@WaxierSteam7 the desert gets hot?
@usifnabil8111
3 жыл бұрын
the description of what my whole country is doing rn
@l__________________3452
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the on-screen display of the metric conversions.
@everythingisfine9988
3 жыл бұрын
America needs to switch over to metric. It's so much easier to deal with.
@a-aron2276
3 жыл бұрын
It's lack of evaporation that causes it, trees, grass, plants all respire and help to cool the land. Cities are more like concrete deserts. The stagnant air is as a result of the streets but isn't the root cause of the heat. It's the reason parks are cooler even with zero wind. Or why it's always cool by fountains. The ground needs to sweat too.
@benporter1997
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not “environmental racism.” It’s not killing people because of their skin color but because of the economic status of the neighborhood they live in. Maybe you could call it environmental classism or something
@Apostate_ofmind
3 жыл бұрын
yeah the second they went there, my alarm went off. Its a confortable scapegoat but a bad one. As long as they fixate on racism, the real culprits go unnoticed
@user-pm7fv9dt6j
3 жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard Sun is WHlTE SUPREMAClST and Was caught using n-word.
@Courtney-pe2iw
3 жыл бұрын
What I watched the other day they said it was skin color that the sun heats up Black people more than lighter skin and that it effects them more. I'm like they never heard of Africa?
@Apostate_ofmind
3 жыл бұрын
@@Courtney-pe2iw im thinking, maybe in africa people are more accustomed to the heat while level of pigmentation stays the same? (i dont really like the race angle)
@benporter1997
3 жыл бұрын
@@Courtney-pe2iw Well, melanin in the skin is essentially natural sunscreen so in some ways black skin is less vulnerable to the sun. But it doesn't mean they're any more or less prone to heatstroke if the environment around them is absorbing more heat. I get that the video is saying racist investment policies decades ago led to these poor communities having bad infrastructure, but it's not like there's any racism forcing those people to still live there. It's generational poverty doing that.
@subifyoulikethecomments8546
3 жыл бұрын
Singapore also had a similar problem , solved by planting trees.
@TheJensPeeters
3 жыл бұрын
and a lot of urban planing. its not thaat easy.
@adityaingole284
3 жыл бұрын
With healthy amount of dictatorship.
@notlessgrossman163
3 жыл бұрын
@@adityaingole284 dictatorship is not necessary, only enforced bylaws and funds
@alveolate
3 жыл бұрын
similar problem? you mean in the 50s? we've had tree-planting as part of urban planning since indepedence. that said, our buildings are still mostly old dead concrete, only some new ones are built with sustainability in mind. as an autocracy with a benign technocrat, we really could do more.
@joeyrivenbark5056
3 жыл бұрын
Live in Raleigh. The city is practically in a forest. Trees do wonders for the temp.
lets goooo raleighhhhhhhhhh. So many trees downtown you can't even walk on the sidewalk without getting smacked in the face by a tree. I've never understood why people try to live in places where life barely exists naturally.
@jaimitoelpoderoso
3 жыл бұрын
Why does everything has to be made about race, racism. The heat don’t care about people or their skin color. But in this video, somehow that’s a very important factor, so much so to call it “environmental racism”… Phawking Ridiculous!
@Henriiyy
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it make more sense to measure air temperature in the shade than to measure surface temperature in the sun, since that is so dependent on albedo etc.? Maybe the asphalt in Harlem was just darker than the road two blocks further, which would totally explain the difference.
@DAAI741
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Additionally FLIR needs to be calibrated to the IR emissivity of the material you are measuring to be accurate.
@amoghavarshanripatunga
3 жыл бұрын
Well, why would they do that??? That would probably debunk a lot of things they are trying to prove here😅
@DAAI741
3 жыл бұрын
@@amoghavarshanripatunga it wouldn't debunk anything. The point they're making isn't new and is well researched. Their practices to recreate it aren't reliable though, that's all
@amoghavarshanripatunga
3 жыл бұрын
@@DAAI741 Not talking about the research lol
@fearsomefawkes6724
3 жыл бұрын
The albedo affects the temperature too. Low albedo increases the heat by absorbing more energy and then radiating it back out, instead of just reflecting it away initially.
@lebaje1
3 жыл бұрын
For everyone outside USA...thanks you for putting the temperature in Celcius!!
@MrZZ-py4pq
3 жыл бұрын
no one cares
@skuullcandy7925
3 жыл бұрын
I always knew that the sun was a white supremacist !
@amoghavarshanripatunga
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@adamfrisk956
3 жыл бұрын
More like yellow
@christopherannas-lee3329
3 жыл бұрын
At 5:15 it's said that POC live in areas that are on average 2° F hotter, but the text that is being highlighted simultaneously says 2° C.
No only those in certain neighborhoods in certain cities within New York are hotter than other New Yorkers... which we all know isnt saying much.
@Courtney-pe2iw
3 жыл бұрын
No I would say Arizona and Texas is the hottest
@giantmastersword
3 жыл бұрын
You think that's something? Look at any city near Korea or japan. They are obsessed with air conditioning, so all that heat from the air conditioners and from inside the buildings builds up on the streets. It's devastatingly hot.
@partimentieveryday
3 жыл бұрын
Japan has humid summers so your sweat doesn't cool you down
@alveolate
3 жыл бұрын
you missed hongkong, the world capital of excess airconditioning. singapore is probably up there too.
@gregorymalchuk272
3 жыл бұрын
I read a description of Kowloon City where on the streets on the ground level it was perpetually "raining" because of all the condensate from the air conditioners was being piped out windows.
@Foxpax
3 жыл бұрын
Had me interested until the good ol race card was pulled.
@vulturu.x4329
3 жыл бұрын
you mean to tell me that the Sun is not racist??? why is Africa so hot than?? coincidence?
@bullie86
3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t even make it half way through the video.
@everponderingstar
3 жыл бұрын
Types of architecture can affect it too. Too many reflective surfaces that point sunlight and hear back into the city instead of away. Heard about a building that melted the inside of a car that was parked too long.
*Don't you know Sun is RAClST and WHlTE SUPREMAClST and Was caught using n-word*
@wbasurto5934
3 жыл бұрын
I dont believe the correlation of race and heat has anything to do with each other. People have choices to live wherever they like. They're are many other issues in regards to black or whatever race you wanna put in your story. Yes we are probably heating up but just turns me off when stories come out like this.
@tantalus5370
3 жыл бұрын
Considering Harlem was primarily white until the white flight, it couldn't have been that hot there
@maximm.6969
3 жыл бұрын
They do theoretically but there is no denying that your choice is limited by your income. A normal job can't pay for an apartment in the upper east side. So yeah there is a correlation between race and the heat.
@Apostate_ofmind
3 жыл бұрын
@@maximm.6969 no, even you just said it, its a correlation between socioeconomic status and heat, not race and heat.
@maximm.6969
3 жыл бұрын
@@Apostate_ofmind and you are telling me that there is no connection between socioeconomic status and race? That is one of the biggest issues of our time
@mnagmobile1
3 жыл бұрын
Why do they call their channel Verge "Science"... but then continue to talk in F?
These people use the word "racism" the same way that the Smurfs use "Smurf"
@BenjyP.
3 жыл бұрын
0:16 The Verge: It's hot and getting hotter. Dude in the background: black leather jacket, long trousers and a black beanie -> You have no power here xD
@marketsmash5374
3 жыл бұрын
She really said the environment is racist lmfao
@toosas
3 жыл бұрын
could not quite pin it to whites this time, perhaps in the next video?
@ravenone6255
3 жыл бұрын
City temperature = heat off asphalt, buildings, car and people, >> heat dome
@max_galingumas9409
3 жыл бұрын
3:40 environmental racism? wtf is wrong with you??
@blmyoubigot581
3 жыл бұрын
They wuz kangs n' kweens in sub saharan africa but a little nyc heat is killing them lmfao.
@GeneralChangFromDanang
3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. I had no idea the sun singled out black neighborhoods like that.
The heat island effect happens no matter what color skined people live there. Skin color is not the cause or reason for poverty, or equity difference, or locations people live, cultural choices are. And regardless of you skin, you can change your choices, and as a result can change the outcome. But it is up to the individual, not the govenment to take charge and take personal responsability. If you don't like the hot city, move.
@christopherscorner
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Now even heat deaths are about race now!
@JaimeGandarillaG
2 жыл бұрын
They were very clear on hace race is involved, red lining
@arizjones
2 жыл бұрын
@@JaimeGandarillaG Urban areas with high percentage of black populations in America have been controlled by black leadership for decades. This is complete bee essss
@jamescustodio3094
3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, environmental racism?
@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076
3 жыл бұрын
Of course that big racist glaring ball of fire in the sky 🤣
@SequoiaElisabeth
3 жыл бұрын
Bringing race into a topic which has nothing to do with it cheapens the whole story.
@napoleonbonerfart278
3 жыл бұрын
Please explain the numbers then. 1/4 of the population but 1/2 of heat deaths...... Why?
@abdsalamelkhamlichi6677
3 жыл бұрын
It's because you don't like the fact that there is a link between the environment and race. It's doesn't make you racist, but more like a karen.
@blmyoubigot581
3 жыл бұрын
@@napoleonbonerfart278 I'm sure the supposed 2 degrees more of heat in "black" areas are the cause for the deaths. Also why are black areas okay and not White? Seems like if Whites move to black neighborhoods its gentrification but if blacks move into White neighborhoods its diversity?
@viknumbers701
3 жыл бұрын
OH DUH! Thermodynamics 101. Really made much worse when everyone is running air conditioning.
@neuroxik
3 жыл бұрын
@@ouo5634 Thinking the same here. It's not creating heat, just transfering it from inside to outside. You pass by one and you feel the heat transferred from inside, so pretty sure it doesn't "add up" to overall outside temp'. The only heat it's adding (IMO) is the power consumption, but that goes for any appliances
@DANGJOS
3 жыл бұрын
@@neuroxik But if the AC remains on, then the buildings remain cool, and the outside remains warmer. I don't know if it's a significant effect, but if you consider just outside to be the system, then they are adding heat to it.
@neuroxik
3 жыл бұрын
@@DANGJOS Still not sure that adds up. If and only if the temperature outside does get a tiny bit cooler because a lot of the outside heat remains trapped inside apartments/houses, then yeah, I guess (maybe) pushing that hot air back out will push the temp' back to what it was going to be. BUT, the reason inside is warmer is because it's warmer outside. Unless everyone was running ovens and pushing THAT newly created heat outside, I don't think any energy/heat is added
@DANGJOS
3 жыл бұрын
@@neuroxik That's not necessary. If no air conditioning is running, then inside temperatures will be similar to average outside temperatures, since they do communicate thermally. When you turn on the AC, you are removing the heat from inside and putting it outside. That heat energy cannot just disappear, so it must be added to the outside system.
@neuroxik
3 жыл бұрын
@@DANGJOS I'm not being sarcastic but I totally get where you're coming from, and to be honest, you could be right. I still have my own arguments nagging at me telling me it's just a transfer from outside -> inside -> outside but who knows
@doodlegoose2262
3 жыл бұрын
That’s the asphalt not the temperature of the air
@fatherfruitloops
3 жыл бұрын
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM!! BRUH. Trees and grass can’t be racist omg.
"Environmental racism" lmao what? Edit: right after some thinking I think I've concluded what she meant was the environment that is the city was created without much thought for black people. Now I don't know much about that but I knew a few ginger guys when I was in school that would also suffer from heat stroke. Ideally in a city you'd want as many trees and conopys along sidewalks but of course when building a concrete jungle nobody thinks of these things.
@Joe-ij6of
3 жыл бұрын
That's not what she meant. She meant that people who are low income, typically rent, and aren't seen by politicians/developers/elites as important wind up in certain areas. Those certain areas are built as concrete and asphalt heat sinks far from parks or green spaces. Any mitigation efforts like greening areas/rooftops or reflecting/whitening surfaces like roads won't happen in those certain areas anytime soon and other areas in the city will get them first. Minorities are disproportionately represented in these areas for racial (but also socioeconomic) reasons, and it isn't just less convenient to catch the bus or the subway when you live there... these areas can kill you with heatstroke.
You might not have heard of the term before but it's heavily studied and researched in the last 50 years. They did not say the sun or nature was racist, they pointed out the effect of policy, mainly what red-lining was. It's impossible to study wealth generation and transfer without studying it. It decided where people got good mortgage rates through collaboration between government and banks. Much of modern wealth was generated during this era post WWII by this mechanism. They purposefully excluded black neighborhoods (not even based on poverty, just color). Since local government is funded by property tax, black neighborhoods don't have budgets to make parks etc to cool down the neighborhood temperature
@megabrawndo
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job imputing your political views into a show that has SCIENCE as apart of it branding. I guess political rhetoric is now “science”. Remember. We must listen to the science”, when it’s convenient for us…
@Rin-qj7zt
3 жыл бұрын
the mere inclusion of political topics does not invalidate facts.
@megabrawndo
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rin-qj7zt: Nor does it validate facts. The more bias there is in science the less objective one can be. If they want to prove their statements it is better to be done with data and not bias.
@MoMu_A
3 жыл бұрын
Science and social structures affect each other, they are pointing out red-lining was. It's studied heavily in sociology/humanities regardless of political persuasion. It's impossible to study wealth generation and transfer without studying it. It decided where people got good mortgage rates through collaboration between government and banks. Much of modern wealth was generated during this era post WWII by this mechanism. They purposefully excluded black neighborhoods (not even based on poverty, just color). Since local government is funded by property tax, black neighborhoods don't have budgets to make parks etc to cool down the neighborhood temperature
@megabrawndo
3 жыл бұрын
@@MoMu_A: I can see your point. The only problem is that your statement is only accurate if there has not been improved funding for said areas. This includes any form of stimulus, or added portions to bills/ write-ins/ or extra funding to improve the said areas. I can tell you that many cities with impoverished areas have had some form of “extra” money given for the benefit of the community (so that the politicians over the area can attain votes) and yet some how it never seems to fully reach its overall designation (either in form or amount). This then brings in other issues into question…. But honestly I don’t subscribe to a Channel that is supposed to be about “verge science” in order to discuss political banter or the possible failure of our “leaders”.
@rajsuriyang3427
3 жыл бұрын
Wow it is hot even countries near equator wont develop this much heat
@PloverTechOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
The asphalt is the temperature of a summer day in Australia
Data gathering for heat islands in local real-estate this can drop property values possibly …..is Google involved?
@CJP-oz6hr
3 жыл бұрын
How NOA is skewing temperature data…….leaving temperature monitoring equipment inside heat sink locations. Temps are increasing in heat sink areas…..who would have thought!
Exactly! especially 10 sec later she contradicts herself by saying that it is loosely linked to lower socio-economic area, not pure hateful racism design. Plus all ethnicities in NYC are in low socio-economic areas. Race is not a factor here at all.
@fearsomefawkes6724
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoFlyIndustry this is a misunderstanding of environmental racism. For something to be an example of environmental racism it doesn't have to intentionally target people of colour, people of colour just need to be disproportionately affected by an environmental bad.
@viniciusalmeida7037
3 жыл бұрын
5:13 Celsius you mean right ?
@benjamimo1
3 жыл бұрын
You had my interest, until you mentioned environmental racism
@walkerdarin2003
3 жыл бұрын
Careful you might get canceled.
@benjamimo1
3 жыл бұрын
@@walkerdarin2003 It's a daily risk really
@NA-mg2eb
Жыл бұрын
Is there a commesurate reduction in cold-related deaths during the winter?
@moemuggy4971
3 жыл бұрын
We should cut down another forest. Those darn trees are blocking my view of the parking lot.
@pnemonic
3 жыл бұрын
What app are they using to measure the temperature?
@pingpong3311
Жыл бұрын
I think the camera itself provides the temperatures
@paddyokearney
3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to link up a heat island in europe does the esa have a similar program?
@heliosos2123
3 жыл бұрын
The ESA have the "Sentinel/Copernicus" program, if I'm right.
@paddyokearney
3 жыл бұрын
@@heliosos2123 oh cool, thank you!
@blmyoubigot581
3 жыл бұрын
They wuz kangs n' kweens in sub saharan africa but a little nyc heat is killing them lmfao.
Big forehead slap! In the 1600's the Beekman's mansion was vacated for the summer to the cooler smaller mansion on the East River, nothing new here, just summer in a big city.
Since you're a science channel and all, could you provide the equipment you used and the source of imagery data so as to reproduce your results? Not doing this, and calling yourself science, is sus!
@joshuabuilds3051
2 жыл бұрын
Thats what they get for committing whatever disproportionate amount of crime to their population.
@FinancialShinanigan
3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to invent white asphalt...or just paint them white
@josephpowell6009
3 жыл бұрын
i think California tried this and it was to blinding and somehow still hot. they quickly painted it black. also it would likely be called racist to make it white.
@sledgerend
3 жыл бұрын
Must have been a slow day at Verge
@amoghavarshanripatunga
3 жыл бұрын
3:41 lmao "environmental racism"🤣🤣🤣 How can someone even say something like that with a straight face🤣
Maybe Cuomo can turn off the air conditioning in all the state's nursing homes.
@joreemmcmillan7145
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks.
@Primordial_Radiance
3 жыл бұрын
Cities are hot. What a surprise.
@drwilhouse
3 жыл бұрын
should capture that heat and turn it into energy. dont reduce the heat, reuse it. buildings could use it to create hotwater systems for daytime use. solar panels on roofs instead of white paint.
@drwilhouse
3 жыл бұрын
@Co Vidio dude stfu leaked solar panel poison would be the absolute least of NYC problems if that was even a thing.
@crue9116
3 жыл бұрын
Woah the area under a tree is cooler than the area that's not under a tree 🤯
Maybe you should just use concrete for the roads instead of asphalt….
@Apostate_ofmind
3 жыл бұрын
absolutely not as resilient. It has different specs of resistance
@blmyoubigot581
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should have common sense?
@josephpowell6009
3 жыл бұрын
what ? concrete is better than asphalt except for cost
@alexbanks9510
3 жыл бұрын
can you put links to things like the nasa heat islands tool in the description in future
@holymacoral1
3 жыл бұрын
Environmental racism 🤣🤣😂 I’m dead. The environment needs to be absolved of its whiteness. Stupid racist weather needs to be canceled. Follow the science people!!
@davidhenningson4782
3 жыл бұрын
More like banker racism... declining loans that would have made the neighborhood more livable in lower socioeconomic areas.
@josephpowell6009
3 жыл бұрын
its a free country. become the banker that gives those loans out , be the solution to make America better.
@xnightmarex1534
3 жыл бұрын
The title of your video should match the subject matter
There should be a server for folks to upload GPS-tagged ground truth data to go with satellite data. Fun - and useful - science class project, geek Meetup, independent citizen science work. UN WHO?
@Konstantinos340
3 жыл бұрын
I think yall need to understand how heat works but i guess thermodynamics aint for the simple minds.
Tell them to turn the sun simulator down and stop using laser beams. Stay cool my friends try to get a new air conditioner. Maybe even a small baby pool. Get a sprinkler if you’re feeling kind of crazy.
It would be interesting to see what effect it would have on the global climate if our building materials were made out of a slightly lighter material to increase the surface albedo
there is also the idea of light street colors or having deep bodies of water, which absorb heat. I think resilience (like reducing urban heat islands) is a very interesting field of mitigating the effects of climate change
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