It’s because Paul Pearce was drafted in 99, Ray Allen drafted in 96, and Kevin Garnett was drafted in 1995. Those dudes were old. Remember, they went life and death with Atlanta if I remember correctly, taking seven games to beat them. While they had great Talent, they were at their prime end. Getting Rajon Rondo, was the best thing that they could ever have because it allowed for the team to extend their greatness just enough.
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
That Hawks team shouldn't have taken 7 games for them to beat. Everyone was still in their prime in 08, they dominated the conference and were the runaway favorites to win the title going into the season. It'd have been hilarious if that Celtics team got upset in the first round because of Doc Rivers being a terrible coach.
@805-Loc
11 ай бұрын
Pierce was drafted 98
@underpressure07140
11 ай бұрын
There were many championship teams which had an older core group than that Celtics big 3, 98 Bulls and 14 Spurs came to mind. Simply put, they just were not good enough and Paul Pierce was overrated
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
@@underpressure07140 Agreed on Pierce being overrated he was never on the same level as the superstars of the league, KG was the better player but deferred to him since he was joining his team. I'd even say Allen was better at his peak than Pierce was. Draymond said it best he isn't Kobe, they don't love him like that.
@underpressure07140
11 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma his individual accolades speak for themselves, no all-NBA 1st team selection and only made 1 all-NBA 2nd team. He's probably not even a top 10 SF of all time
@GothPaoki
11 ай бұрын
If you look at Doc Rivers nba career as a whole it becomes very clear why this team underachieved. There's a reason teams have coaches.
@JakeStevyson
11 ай бұрын
he is a dice tbh
@CarlSong
11 ай бұрын
The only thing that doesn't make sense is how he was able to milk 15 more years of coaching career out of that championship.
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
@@CarlSong Doc Rivers knows people and is liked by them. He's been involved in the NBA for a long time like 30+ years going back to when he was a player himself that's a lot of time to forge connections.
@kevinjohnson4498
11 ай бұрын
@@CarlSong He is a good coach, just not a great one. He is great at coaching rebuilding teams and getting the most out of average to bad rosters, that early Magic team and the post CP3/Blake pre Kawhi/PG Clippers are great examples. But when it comes to coaching a 7 game series vs another really good team, his flaws come out and his teams underachieve.
@bobharley1
11 ай бұрын
@@CarlSong Losing to the Lakers and then the heat were blamed on the aging roster not being able to compete with the Heat whose big 3 were in their primes while they were in their late 30s. Lob city was filled with injuries and even after losing to the Rockets CP3 was dealing with hamstring issues. The bubble finally convinced the Clippers to move on but for some reason the Sixers wanted him.
@maroon9273
11 ай бұрын
Plus, the team was aging rapidly after KG injury and signing too many old players until paul and kg left.
@TeRraAwTisM
11 ай бұрын
No
@JustinTYT
11 ай бұрын
@@TeRraAwTisMno
@TeRraAwTisM
11 ай бұрын
@@JustinTYT yes u bum cuk , yes
@shaftlamer
11 ай бұрын
Wtf are u talking about? The team was done at the point kg left.
@maroon9273
11 ай бұрын
@@shaftlamer the truth hurts doesn't it?
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
The biggest reason was KG's injury. I don't think it's controversial to say that though he deferred to Pierce he was their best player. There's other factors like a rapidly aging cast and Doc Rivers holding them back.
@JoPe-d7n
11 ай бұрын
100%. He was the DPOY and a MVP candidate before the injury, and "only" all-star level player after. That's a huge difference if you're trying to win a title.
@jlui21
11 ай бұрын
-- Agree. 1) KG's age/injury 2) Doc being only a regular season coach. Maybe if he could make adjustments, maybe they win a 2nd title. Who knows...except that he blew THREE 3-1 leads.
@johnpaulgonzalez9016
11 ай бұрын
@@JoPe-d7n He would've shut down Dwight hands down. Perkins may have done an awesome job but he doesn't have Garnett's defensive mind. Also his back up? Mikki Moore? Seriously?
@tj5180
11 ай бұрын
Health was a big factor even in 2011 and 2012.
@bobharley1
11 ай бұрын
The Celtics knew of his knee issues but chose not to act. Then he had to sit out the rest of 09 with bone spurs. Had they acted quicker he wouldnt have been outmatched by Pau in the 2010 finals despite Docs coaching.
@mattypaul87
11 ай бұрын
This Boston superteam definitely had a short expiry date and the cracks did show during those playoff series they went 7 games for. Still, they pushed my Lakers to a grueling 7 game finals series. That game 7 alone was an epic nailbiter.
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
celtics were lucky bynum was injured during that both finals...with a fully healthy bynum its probably a 5 games series in 2010. 6 in the worst case scenario..
@timcal2136
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183less lucky than the Lakers were because of the KG injury? Please
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
@@timcal2136 KG injury was one year. Bynum injury was 3 years...yet the lakers aren't crying like celtics fans...
@Grind2Excellence
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183Bynum wasn’t even good until 2012… plus KG & even Perkins we’re better
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
@@Grind2Excellence thats not true that bynum wasn't good until 2012. As i said, he was a top 5 center in 2007, and in 2010, he was probably top 3 center in the league.
@Johnny-kv7mh
11 ай бұрын
Tripping. They LITERALLY almost won a 2nd ring together. Game 7 Finals loss by only 4pts to a good Lakers squad 🤷🏾♂️
@VeryRestarted
Ай бұрын
4 all stars vs 2?
@Huyytfbjud
11 ай бұрын
People seem to forget this team was old as hell
@razkable
8 ай бұрын
The 2012 team was older but if Jeff and Avery were healthy they beat the beat
@antonhank8544
6 ай бұрын
They where in they mid 30s
@djsalteenuts
5 ай бұрын
That wasn’t the issue bcuz they still made it to the finals several years back to back
@kl2389
11 ай бұрын
They have the best chance to repeat in 2009. The Celtics played great during the 2008-2009 season before Garnett's knee injury.
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
best chance to repeat? even thought the lakers lost in 2008, lakers were favorites to win in 2008...
@bobbyjohnson9409
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183ummm no they weren’t
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
@@bobbyjohnson9409 lakers were favorites, all season long. Preseason odds were lakers +350, equal with the celtics in +350, but lakers had a win over/under of 54.5 vs the 53.5 of the celtics... Most experts predicted that the return of bynum would make that lakers team a champion...
@evilkid31able
11 ай бұрын
Celtics were playing even better in 09 before the KG injury
@104copyTHAT
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183I don’t remember them being favorites until the Gasol trade but I could be wrong.
@devinekam6630
11 ай бұрын
Second crazy how this Celtics team was one of my favorites teams to play with from 08-12 never will forget Paul peirce slow jumpshot on 2k10-11
@blackman34
11 ай бұрын
KG had surgery in 09 after we were knocked out. 2011. The Celtics dominated Miami in the regular season but we traded Perkins in the trade deadline.
@hoopsfan3437
11 ай бұрын
yeah i feel like people forget how good they were playing that season before the perkins trade. I think they were mentally shook the rest of that season into the playoffs.
@carloconopio6513
11 ай бұрын
I think because of injury and aging. There first win ray allen is 32 and kg and piere 31. We know most nba players primes without severe injury only last at age of 32 to 34.
@anjr9915
11 ай бұрын
The biggest reason why is because of KG's injury plain and simple, great video. It also shouldn't matter whether you sweep or not, winning the series is ultimately the end result. Danny Ainge also made some horrible trades after 2010.
@hoopsfan3437
11 ай бұрын
yeah ainge's roster moves were subpar at best after 2010. He never got them adequate depth at the wing to back up pierce and allen who were getting older.
@Grind2Excellence
11 ай бұрын
@@hoopsfan3437everybody was shocked he traded Perkins… it ruined team chemistry… and then he tried to trade Ray Allen who was playing the most consistent for OJ mayo … even then tried to ship rondo as well… ainge was not only disloyal but also stupid 😂
@AirRusher1992
11 ай бұрын
Quite frankly, another reason why the Celtics besides KG's injury in 2009 is the Miami Heat Big which is their main Kryptonite losing to them in the Playoffs for 2 years in a row. Not to mention, most of the members of this team saw their reputation change mainly Paul Pierce who would talk smack consistently and Doc Rivers who would keep getting coaching gigs before returning to broadcasting recently for ESPN and ABC teaming up with Mike Breen and Doris Burke.
@anjr9915
11 ай бұрын
The heat would get the better of the Celtics due to the big three being out of their prime and aging, Rondo was the only young star, plus Ainge made some bad trades which ruined our depth
@dii1314
11 ай бұрын
@@anjr9915 people forget the Celtics started the 2010-11 season looking great and everything went down when Ainge went cheap and traded Perkins for Krstic and Green. The whole team started looking awful after that trade
@anjr9915
11 ай бұрын
@@dii1314 exactly he single handed ruined that remaining season
@LuisDiaz-dh7ly
11 ай бұрын
At 9.53 and forward you can catch a rare defensive hustle by Knicks Carmelo. Strange. Gave me chills.
@leftenantthunder
11 ай бұрын
They were already old when they teamed up and got beaten by a younger better big 3. Still very impressive how good they were at their age in 2012 though. They could have been a 1 and done but were a force in the east for a good 4-5 years
@hoopsfan3437
11 ай бұрын
exactly. It's not like they won the title and then completely fell off the map right after. Injuries ultimately held them back
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
Paul and KG weren't that old yet. Paul just turned 30 and KG was 31 that year.
@carloconopio6513
11 ай бұрын
@@4392amtrakmost nba players prime max at age of 32to34.. few players get to 35 and above prime.
@Grind2Excellence
11 ай бұрын
@@4392amtrakKG was a shell of himself after his knee injury… barely could dunk or turn anymore … Pierce body type was never meant to last … like melo , dirk, luka those guys athleticism are already low so age hits harder
@SuperNASCARrocks
11 ай бұрын
After the Garnett injury the team was never the same
@GArmand715
11 ай бұрын
💯 and he was never the same.
@nocturne311
11 ай бұрын
For those who didn't see Posey in Boston, he was a lot like Battier was for Miami in that he was a 3/4 3&D tweener with no ego who allowed the Celtics to play small ball with KG at the 5. We wouldn't see that again until the Celtics got Jeff Green in 2011, and even then, it never fully materialized because Green missed all of 2012 (he might have swung the ECF against Miami) and by the time he returned in 2013, Ray Allen was gone and Pierce and Garnett were really starting to show their age. I think had Garnett not hurt his knee in 2009, the Celtics probably three-peat and maybe they even beat the Thunder in 2012 as well with a healthy Green and Bradley swinging the Miami series.
@paxtonpickett3456
11 ай бұрын
I can't believe the disrespect you're giving Rondo. He moved the ball very well and he was the only reason they made it to the finals in 2010. Oh, and it's cute that you didn't mention it in 2011 The only reason the heat was able to go to the next round was because of dirty d. Wade
@nocturne311
11 ай бұрын
@@paxtonpickett3456 I have been watching the Celtics since 1986 so don't try to educate me, please. Rondo was great and I'm sorry that I offended you by not mentioning him. However, he was not the only reason Boston made the Finals in 2010 - Pierce was the best player in the 1st round against Miami, Rondo and Garnett both played very well against Cleveland and Pierce and Rondo carried Boston through the Orlando series. Rondo was Boston's best player in the Finals, but Garnett played well and Glen Davis and Nate Robinson were as responsible as anyone for that game four victory. As far as 2011 goes, I was AT the game you're referring to (game three of the ECSF) and yes, Wade made a dirty play that took Rondo out. Regardless, I don't think Boston was beating Miami that year because they traded Perkins, Shaq got hurt and Green didn't mesh with the squad until 2013. Rondo getting hurt in 2013 was probably the difference between a first round exit and a second round exit. I don't think Boston would have been able to defeat Indiana without Allen and with Pierce and Garnett, as I said, both showing their age finally. Chill out, junior.
@paxtonpickett3456
11 ай бұрын
@@nocturne311 If they could have gotten passed Rondo without a dirty play then why did they have one? Not to mention in this video you didn't mention his I think it was 44 points against Miami which was only second to Michael Jordan on the Miami heat floor which is pretty spectacular. Rondo definitely would have won finals MVP if they had one in 2010. Unless I miss remembering one person that a lot of people think is the greatest player of all time was the player that was guarding Rondo in 2008 and 2010 which says enough
@paxtonpickett3456
11 ай бұрын
@@nocturne311 I bet you the kind of person that thinks that the Celtics are doing great right now with their one finals appearance that they lost and there four conference finals that they lost
@nocturne311
11 ай бұрын
@@paxtonpickett3456 Anyone who thinks that Kobe is the GOAT is uninformed or biased. He's not even top five, objectively speaking. Rondo's 44 point performance happened in game two of the 2012 ECF and Boston lost. When MJ dropped 56 in 1992, the Bulls won. Also, Kobe was guarding Ray Allen in 2008 and guarded Rondo at times, but not consistently, in the 2010 Finals. Lol. You're all over the place. You sound like a nut. Yeah, I do think Boston is doing great. They have already done all that and their two best players are 26 and 25, respectively. They're the odds on favorites barring a Porzingis injury to win it all this year. Get it together.
@marioaustin9312
11 ай бұрын
Had they come together three to five years earlier, they'd be a dynasty
@harinderrana9735
11 ай бұрын
They were not beating the Spurs.
@Mike1122.
11 ай бұрын
That’s l8ke saying if Pau, played with Kobe earlier and if Bynum who was a rising star had not gotten hurt the lakers would have been a dynasty. Oh, I forgot they were a dynasty 2000-2001-2002-2008-2009-2010.
@kylegross1081
11 ай бұрын
They barely got by a Detroit team playing with an injured Billups and Hamilton. They would not have gotten past them in the early to mid 2000s
@Grind2Excellence
11 ай бұрын
Even in 2008 if KG was healthy they would’ve 3peated
@EliteLilTJ
5 ай бұрын
@@Mike1122.what did you accomplish with this comment?
@limonator8280
11 ай бұрын
The Lakers made zero excuses, and just won back to back instead.
@jordane3603
11 ай бұрын
would love to see this kind of video but for the '83 76ers and any of the early 2000s Spurs champion teams
@pouncingpantherpucks2779
11 ай бұрын
This video could've been summed up into two words.... DOC RIVERS!!!😂 Nah but in all seriousness, great video man. You're such a great content creator.
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
11 ай бұрын
*KG got injured* That’s why they didn’t repeat, end of video.
@darwinjay711
11 ай бұрын
the bug reason is Doc Rivers coaching he destroy the great celtics line up.. he cant coach when needed the most.
@johnpaulgonzalez9016
11 ай бұрын
Even with all the scrutiny and BS (from Pierce talking his way to becoming an All time player), the 08 big three in my opinion is the best big 3 ever. All 3 of them never stepped on the other one's lane. KG manning the paint, Ray just bombing 3s and moving without the ball, while Pierce handles the mid to paint, handling the scoring. Comparing it to the Heatles where they all had to adjust to bron, or the Brooklyn's Dribble brothers who never meshed and just wanted to play who's the better scorer. Based on chemistry alone, I think the warriors with KD, Steph, and Klay, are the closest but I'll give more credit to Steve Kerr and his perimeter centered offense in which anyone can be a decoy. Also Rondo deserves a lot of credit for running the offense even with Doc's messed up coaching, he was the glue for everyone and placed everyone in perfect spots, not just the big 3 but everyone as well. That's just my opinion, what's yours guys?
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
Kareem, Magic and Worthy. Showtime revolutionized basketball and it's unfortunate both Magic and Worthy had relatively short careers.
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
85 lakers with magic, kareem and worthy is better. 86 Celtics with bird, mchale and parrish is also better. Bulls big three of jordan, pippen and rodman was better. Warriors big 3 also (Curry, Durant and klay/draymond). Dont Forget Tim, Manu and Parker were also better. Manu should have won mvp in 05, so, basically, all of the spurs big 3 should have won finals mvp. Even James, Irving and Love is a better big 3.
@ethanbrown4628
11 ай бұрын
Literally injuries are the only reason they didn’t 3peat actually crazy. Even after losing posey they were still the best team smh.
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
actually, it was the injuries that prevented the lakers to three peat during that era. Bynum was 3 straight years injured in the playoff during 2008-2010. Ariza was also injured for most of 2007/2008, so, when he returned in the playoff the chemistry wasn't there.
@hasanx8066
11 ай бұрын
Doc bled this chip dry, dunked it in water, and dried it out again 😂
@SteezyRedStars
11 ай бұрын
Plus the big 3 was washed up as hell entering the 2012-2013 season lol. They had heart but no endurance against a superior athletic heat team
@kdtrey6840
11 ай бұрын
If kg not injured in 09 they will become back2back champs
@TorontoWire
11 ай бұрын
No one ever gives Dwight Howard credit for making the finals in 09 I swear lol
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
Everyone wanted Kobe v LeBron. Those puppet commercials were great.
@JakeStevyson
11 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma what "If" for them
@IDK_0402
11 ай бұрын
The fuck you mean no one lol. Dwight's legacy is literally built around that 2009 finals run.
@afanasibushmanov7463
11 ай бұрын
1 word. Age. I knew that they only had a one or two year window as soon as KG and Allen went there.
@techgamesyt8046
11 ай бұрын
James Posey signed with the Hornets
@hoopsfan3437
11 ай бұрын
your summary of the 2010-2011 season is a little off/missing a lot of context. They were actually having a really good season and had the best record in the east up until the all star break, which is when Ainge chose to trade perkins (who was going to be a free agent that summer) for Green. They guys were shook after that, especially rondo (best friends with Perk) who hit a huge slump towards the end of the season. With Perkins gone, they were now leaning on an old shaq and a broken down jermaine oneal which hindered them during the playoffs. It also didnt help that rondo dislocated his elbow in the lone game they won against miami which was the most pivotal point in the series.
@kenm7179
11 ай бұрын
Exactly right. Trading Perk for Jeff freakin Green was insane, and it cost them any chance they may have had for the title that year. BUT, I have to give Jeff Green credit- he had a very long NBA career and was still playing in the 2023 playoffs. btw, Ainge sucks!
@jhdivina
11 ай бұрын
that’s just excuses now. you’re telling me the boston celtics, a team comprised of kevin garnett, paul pierce, ray allen and rajon rondo, with all their decent veteran bench players, has KENDRICK PERKINS as their win condition??
@kenm7179
11 ай бұрын
Yes, although they weren't going to win it all anyway the way the season was going.@@jhdivina
@hoopsfan3437
11 ай бұрын
@@jhdivina casual smh
@EliteLilTJ
5 ай бұрын
@@jhdivinacasual take
@BigDawg717
11 ай бұрын
They did have the biggest turnaround from 1 season to the next in nba history 🍀
@dunggg
11 ай бұрын
2020 Lakers
@TeRraAwTisM
11 ай бұрын
@@dungggno goofy
@ASJyirod
11 ай бұрын
@@TeRraAwTisMthou shall not entertain
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
@@dunggg No. The other big turnarounds off the top of my head are Spurs before and after both Robinson and Duncan's rookie seasons and Celtics getting before and after Bird's rookie season.
@dunggg
11 ай бұрын
@@TeRraAwTisM ya'l mad Lakers won three chimp since the Bawston won their only one since 2008
@michaelcapps8052
10 ай бұрын
The fact is before KG was injured in 09 we had a better record at the break then the 72-10 bulls. Posey leaving in FA was huge tbh I knew we wouldn’t repeat from that move alone he was instrumental was actually the big 4 And people forget no matter what his stats say Ray struggled in his new role as a spot up shooter he was ball dominant and created off his offense he didn’t even hit a three in the lakers series till like gm 5 or something an it was all year like that after this year he mastered the craft an Lebron can thank ray for his second chip. 08 Celtics lead the league in assists it was beautiful basketball to watch these three guys carried franchises for a decade or more they deserved to come together an win they did it through trades too which is far harder more organic and meant to be I only imagine if we got KG PP RA at the ages that wade bosh James were when they formed a team (bc of the Celtics btw) would we not have won 6 or more ? we almost won 2 and could have went to three more finals 09 11 12 with those guys in mid to late 30s
@Evenmixer
11 ай бұрын
In 2010-2011, you can also add that Shaq injury. When Rondo - Allen - Pierce - KG - Shaq were in the starting 5 they were 15 wins 3 loss
@michaelcapps8052
10 ай бұрын
08 ppl forget we had not won a gm on the road in the playoffs until gm5ECF vs Det and that’s why they all went to gm7 except ECF
@ryanmahoney7385
11 ай бұрын
I’m still a little leery of the free throw disparity in Game 7 of the 2010 Finals
@jham4745
11 ай бұрын
That knee injury k.g. had change this team still was able to compete but to me they should had been in a championship series for 3-4 years before trading Kendrick Perkins
@halion50100
11 ай бұрын
Two words why they weren't able to repeat: KOBE BRYANT
@carayj
11 ай бұрын
The 2008 Celtics team is still talk and everyone chasing the big 3 cause they were able to win a championship their first year together
@cjc2010
11 ай бұрын
Good chance for Green 18 this year tho.
@Alexred94
11 ай бұрын
KG and Perkins being injured from them 3peating
@digontozahid
11 ай бұрын
Stop embarrassing yourself😂😂😂
@EliteLilTJ
5 ай бұрын
@@digontozahidHe’s not wrong lmao, when kg was healthy that 09 team was 27-2 at one point
@Jsneebs42
11 ай бұрын
They would have won in 2009 if KG hadn't gotten injured. Then in 2010 Perkins got injured in the finals and they went to a tight game 7 with the Lakers. I can't say for Certain that they would have won 2010 but in game 7 they got destroyed in the paint and on the boards so it's definitely possible. The 2008 Celtics IMO are one of the greatest teams ever. It's unfortunate that their big 3 were already North of 30 when they teamed up and health wasn't on their side.
@shaft9000
11 ай бұрын
_"...and if Bynum weren't injured for the '08 playoffs the Lakers would have gotten a 3-peat and Boston wins nothing."_ Because its so easy to play _The "If" Game...._
@suiken3149
11 ай бұрын
@@shaft9000 Lakers took 7 games to beat an aging and ailing celtics with no depth, lol.
@jjohnson4013
11 ай бұрын
@@suiken3149Boston had three top 75 players kobe was the only top player with Gasol Byume was pretty much playing with a leg injury also kobe was playing with a broken finger and bad knee and still won
@suiken3149
11 ай бұрын
@@jjohnson4013 Top 75 player who are on the tail end of their primes. KG were no longer the same after his knee injury. Pierce while being still an all-star level player has also been declining in efficiency. Ray Allen can no longer create for himself and stuck as a spot up shooter at this point of his career.
@jjohnson4013
11 ай бұрын
@@suiken3149 You sound like your making excuess they were still good enough to make it to the finals they beat a mvp Lebron a prime Howard who won DPOY they just ran into a Lakers team that wanted it more and a kobe who was Looking for pay back
@Grumpygrumpygrumpy
11 ай бұрын
the 2011 Mavs Ring is more heavier than this Celtics Ring, they defeated that Modern, younger Super Team, while the Celtics struggle heavily
@jaydaytoday3548
11 ай бұрын
Their best chance was in 09. However Kobe was in a mission that year and doubt he would have lost to them a second time.
@Grind2Excellence
11 ай бұрын
I think kobe would lost again to a healthy Boston. They looked even better than their 08’ version. I do think Kobe would’ve performed better though.
@sergeipohkerova7211
11 ай бұрын
It's because they were injured and old. Better one than none!
@aaronli8376
11 ай бұрын
This celtics team embarassed the lakers so bad in the finals. Kobe lucky KG didn't get traded sooner to the celtics, otherwise he wouldn't of won 2 more. Thats how stacked they were.
@christianmacapayag
11 ай бұрын
People been saying C’s should’ve won the ‘10 finals if perk wasnt injured. As if Bynum was healthy during the 08’ finals….
@philiphernandez5152
11 ай бұрын
Crazy doc can still coach because of his one ring
@VikCain
11 ай бұрын
Nah, they had no coach, they coached themselves.
@nbarealtalker
11 ай бұрын
Doc Rivers is the most highly regarded OK coach in the history of sports.
@jamesfarrier8985
11 ай бұрын
KG likely tips the scale... he was the reigning defensive player of the year and a couple of years off winning MVP. He was the best PF in bball...
@joel8692
11 ай бұрын
Duncan was definitely the best PF
@carayj
11 ай бұрын
I remember the agony of the Celtis losing game 7 in 2010 against the laker it was crushing
@knight6
11 ай бұрын
Old Shaq was on that 2010 Finals team and Rasheed Wallace was waiting in the hallway to talk to the refs after the loss. It was great seeing Sheed win a ring with the Pistons.
@colearcher3378
11 ай бұрын
@@knight6Shaq was not on that team. He was on 2010-11 Celtics roster
@knight6
11 ай бұрын
@@colearcher3378 o ok. Too bad he wasn’t on that 2009-2010 Celtics team. He might have helped, even though he was old and way past his prime. Would have been a nice storyline Shaq vs Kobe Finals.
@s.a.d7882
11 ай бұрын
That title was won in the first year of them being together that was huge haven't seen this be done again not even the Heatles....
@tmac731
11 ай бұрын
Forgot to mention the Bulls pushing them to 7 games in the first round, they got tired and lost to the Magic in the 2nd. GO Bulls
@cliffwoodbury5319
11 ай бұрын
Injury - This video is clearly for those that are two young and or not NBA fans. If KG wasn't injured NBA history would be totally different because this team would have won back-2-back championships and Ray Allen would have stayed so its highly likely it would have been the beggining of a dynasty.
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
And Ray was hoping to stay, but BOS tried to trade him several times and they gave contracts to players b4 they looked Ray's direction
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
And Ray's number would've been up in the rafters by now
@xDreMack
11 ай бұрын
If Bynum and Ariza weren't injured the Celtics never even win 1
@cliffwoodbury5319
11 ай бұрын
@@xDreMackdo u know who ur are talking about.... Ariza was a good support player, I'll give him that. But neither of those players is making a huge difference in or out the game, and if they do add value for one it is probabably off the court were their efficency ratings would skyrocket with pom-poms...
@xDreMack
11 ай бұрын
@@cliffwoodbury5319 2 starters with one of them capable of giving you 20-10 would have no impact? Lol you're delusional
@tankeater
11 ай бұрын
Dwade and LeBron got together because KOBE got his 5th ring...
@underpressure07140
11 ай бұрын
When your best player in the team was Paul Pierce, someone who only had 1x all-NBA 2nd team and 3x all-NBA 3rd team, you were lucky to even win 1 championship. Doesn't help that you have Doc Rivers as your coach
@NumberStatsFax
11 ай бұрын
How good were 2008 Boston Celtics? ATL DIV champs ECF Champs Nba Champs 66-16 Reg Season(80.3%) 100.5 PPG(11th) OPP PS 90.3(2nd) 98.9 Def RTG(1st) Pace 90.9(19th) 42.0 RPG 22.4 APG 8.5 SPG 4.5 BPG 15.2 TO 47.5/38.1/77.1% 16-10 playoff record(61.5) 94.0 PPG 40.0 RPG 21.5 APG 7.6 SPG 4.3 BPG 12.8 TO 44.7/35.9/78.3% 26 GP. How good were the BIG 3 Boston Celtics in the regular-season and playoffs between the 2007-08 and 2011-2012 seasons? - 1x Nba Champions(2008) - 2x ECF Champions(2008,2010) - 66-16 record in 2008(80.5W%) - 62-20 record in 2009(75.6W%) - 50-32 record in 2010(61.0W%) - 56-26 record in 2011(68.3W%) - 39-27 record in 2012(59.1W%) - 54.6 win AVG from 2008-2012 - 107.1 ORTG(12th) - 100.7 DRTG(1st) - 327-160 record (67.1%)(2nd) - 97.3 PPG(19th) - 40.1 RPG(29th) - 8.1 SPG(4th) - 4.7 BPG(19th) - 14.7 TO(8th) - 47.1/36.9/76.8% - 18.3 FTM - 23.8 FTA For more stats like this,highlights,lowlights, updates and debates follow my page @NUMBERSSTATFAX ON IG,TIKTOK🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@aenangutierrez3882
11 ай бұрын
Boston Celtics 2008 its my first fav team ! im only 11 y.o. that time
@vittiriowashington5211
11 ай бұрын
Easy father time, KG n Perks injuries, combined with Bean Bryant 😅
@gigabyte9584
4 ай бұрын
2:30 Funny because everything about what you said about Doc’s coaching just now is true because that’s what kinda held back the clippers for those years and then my Sixers.
@oldiesplaylist1248
11 ай бұрын
Why were the Celtics unable to repeat: Kobe… that’s why.
@YER3721
11 ай бұрын
They lost to the Orlando Magic in 2009…
@andresdelportillo9917
11 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to remember that the refs bailed out the lakers in G7 2010 finals
@malemanjulpax2155
11 ай бұрын
They traded kendrick perkins for jeff green
@CarJaco
11 ай бұрын
This lone championship forever changed Doc's and Pierce's legacies, without it they would be remembered very differently. And not for the better. Ray and KG, I think would be remembered similarly even if they never won a championship. They were a dominant team, but not a likeable team.... so the more time that passes, people's opinion of them will get worse. And in my opinion, having Perkins and Pierce on tv acting a fool, also really hurts this teams legacy.
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
Doc probably would've gone back to broadcasting sooner than later, and Pierce would've been looked at as another Adrian Dantley or Melo type
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
Ray allen won a championship with the heat, so, probably that celtics championships doesnt change that much his legacy. It definitely helped doc and pierce legacy a lot. I think it did help KG to be considered a top 30 player.
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183 I think KG is a top 25 player ever. I rank him in the same category as Dirk
@copernic7511
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great video! Can you make a video (or a series) about the playing days of famous coaches who were former NBA players? (Rivers, Kidd, Jackson...)
@willn8664
11 ай бұрын
Thibs as an assistant coach and Rondo were the real ones running the show for Doc. He just got carried.
@BallinVlogs
11 ай бұрын
The Celtics needed Kendrick Perkins so badly during the playoffs
@jaydaytoday3548
11 ай бұрын
If Perkins was the reason they lost in 10. Then Bynum was the reason the Lakers lost in 08.
@OrionOodama
7 ай бұрын
It is a mystery why the Celtics traded Eddie House in 2010 for Nate Robinson. House was usually the team's PG in the 4Q, complementing Ray Allen's perimeter shooting. Come 2010 Finals, the Lakers simply keep an eye on Allen (or Rasheed Wallace) and let Rondo dare to take long shots. Sure, the Celts were still one win away and even took a 3-2 lead, but that supposed Title finish would be less hard if House was still there.
@color2550
11 ай бұрын
Ray Allen said if you can't beat them, then join them. It worked out for him though
@Blade-hf9po
11 ай бұрын
Doc Rivers being Doc Rivers, KG getting injured, and age catching up to all of them very quickly.
@Carteruss
11 ай бұрын
Lakers also missed Bynum all of 2008. You never hear Laker fans complain about it. C’s fans don’t shut up about Kendrick Perkins missing game 7
@King_Kunta
11 ай бұрын
They def were dominant. KEY INJURIES stopped them from running the league from 08-12. Kevin Garnett in 09, Perk in 10, Rondo in 11. They got robbed in 12.
@timothy1949
11 ай бұрын
reality is age and injuries were the biggest problem, coaching was also an issue but not as big as age and injuries. when the big 3 came together, they were all pretty old, and back then the league was more physical than today's league so age was a bigger factor. in 2009 playoffs we all saw what a young rose did to the celtics without KG, the celtics barely won game 7 and it was the most exciting playoffs series ever, then in round 2 they got destroyed by the magic in the paint. in 2010, i remember how everyone thought the celtics old man were done, but they cruised to the finals...completely dominated even the magic, i think we were up 3-1 and won the first 2 road games...there was a lot of disbelief. but then in the finals, perk went down game 6 and 7, and we got destroyed on the board, perk was averaging 5.8 rebounds in the finals, second in the team, and the team also missed his defensive presence. my man ray allen hit 8 threes in game 2, but then his shots wouldn't drop....and i think coaching has a lot to do here. doc wanted ray to shoot himself out, but back then defense was different than today, the entire final series was a fucking grind and many ppl shot a poor percentage. Doc should have ran other plays instead of making allen catch and shoot, thats the problem as andy said in the video, the offense was so predictable. he wouldn't make changes in response to the situation and come up with creative plans to shock the opponent. it was all rondo, rondo was great, but it was all rondo. thats why ray allen got upset because he was used as a decoy running around just to catch and shoot sometimes when he could do so much more. and thats the key, putting star players together does not give you success, the players need to know they are each giving up a large part of their game, their stats, and have to fit in a completely new style. thats why so many super teams failed, they simply wouldn't adjust or willing to give up. thats why i think bosh is so under appreciated, its all lebron and wade but bosh gave up a lot for the team. same goes for ray who gave up the most among the big 3.
@nathrebs9107
5 ай бұрын
"injuries" to the main line up was the reason they did'nt won the 2009 NBA Championship.
@markula_4040
11 ай бұрын
I don't want to hear the Perkins injury excuse. The Lakers were missing Andrew Bynum in the first Finals matchup.
@moetoosmooth2741
11 ай бұрын
2009 Injury to Garnett 2010 Injury to Perkins 2011 Miami 2012 Miami 2013 Melo
@juanritanjaya6254
11 ай бұрын
This video shows why it is so grueling and tough to win NBA finals. And then there’s Jokic just casually destroying every team on the way to championship while focusing more on going home and his horses.
@invincible0463
11 ай бұрын
Jokic hasn't even repeated yet for you to he saying this
@DOWNBAD_Tay
11 ай бұрын
Doc Rivers held every team back . . Especially lob city
@danieldelgado3008
10 ай бұрын
No nba title has been milked as much as the 2008 celtics
@kamotengkahoy2850
11 ай бұрын
Kg's injury and doc
@jamespenny9482
11 ай бұрын
If Garnett doesn't hurt his knee in 2009, then the Celtics repeat that year, no question. In 2010 they lost in 7 games and game 7 was decided by a single basket plus two free throws by Sasha Vujacic with just a few seconds left when the Celtics had to foul. Ray Allen was one of the most consistent and efficient scorers of all time, but on that night he was a miserable 3 of 14 and finished with 13 points. What happened? Ray played 45 minutes guarding Kobe, doing a great job (Kobe was only 6 of 24), but running himself ragged in the process. He had nothing left for offense and that was the main reason for his poor shooting. Meanwhile, Tony Allen, defensive ANIMAL who gave Kobe fits earlier in the series, played a whopping 5 minutes and 20 seconds! There was also the absence of Perkins which really hurt and the hugely lopsided free throw disparity with the Lakers shooting 37 (mostly in the 4th qtr) and the Celtics only 17. And I won't even mention Gasol's clear out of Rondo in the final minute, which wasn't called. But for Doc to sit Tony Allen and wear out Ray Allen was a huge blunder and cost them the series. Surely Ray could have hit one more shot if he had had a breather. He also should have given Big Baby Glen Davis more playing time (21 minutes). So there's your Threepeat that never happened. And then in 2010-2011, if they hadn't shipped off Perkins and let Tony Allen walk in free agency, and if Wade hadn't done that intentional takedown of Rondo, they might have beaten the Heat in 2011. Why did Danny Ainge let Tony Allen walk right after Lebron had announced he was going to Miami in 2010? Who was gonna defend those 2 guys? And then he dumps Perkins in February, 2011 and then Lebron and Wade came right down the lane and scored time after time in that 2011 series.
@jjintheotherpartoftheworld
8 ай бұрын
Guys just pause and appreciate the greatness of these big three. They carried rivers to his lone championship which he milked for the next decade, but sadly that always means he ruined so many superstars’ prime.
@stanleypierre8933
11 ай бұрын
LeBron’s game 6 in Boston back in 2012 still haunts me
@wadeallen1046
3 ай бұрын
They were 1 game away from doing it, def gave themselves a chance
@anthonygnoix4358
11 ай бұрын
2012: Rondo got hit in the head by Dwade one of the worst missed calls ever
@TheChef420
11 ай бұрын
Injuries cost them every season after 08 and losing Posey who was way underrated, then age got them
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
lakers were also injured. they still won two finals during that time...
@TheChef420
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183 which one of the Lakers starters was out during the playoffs cuz I don't remember a single one of them missing anytime like with Kevin Garnett going down for the Celtics or Kendrick Perkins the Lakers never lost a starter during the playoffs during their run
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
@@TheChef420 if we are talking 08 run, bynum was injured for half the season and all playoff. Ariza was injured for most of the season, and returned against the spurs in the conference finals, but that was his first season, and the chemistry wasn't there yet. 09 bynum was injured during the season and returned before playoff started, but he wasn't anywhere near 100% to play. He went from 28mpg in the regular season to 17mpg in the playoff. He could barely play and it was obvious he was playing injured. 10 playoff run, bynum got injured in his knee in game 6 of the okc series, and again, he played injured the rest of the playoff. You could clearly see how his performance deteriorated big time the rest of the playoff. This is well documented you can check that yourself...
@TheChef420
11 ай бұрын
@@leonardoyi3183 Ariza isn't a star player bynum was a fringe star player obviously his health kept him from being a true superstar but they were obviously able to win without him except against the Celtics in 08 but it wouldn't have mattered even if he was there
@leonardoyi3183
11 ай бұрын
@@TheChef420 you are right that ariza wasn't a start player, but he demonstrated to be an important part of the lakers roster in the 2009 championship. He was an starter during that playoff run. Prototypical 3 and D player. Great defender, and very good 3 point shooter. The point is injuries are part of the game. When you play, more so if players are old, like those celtics teams, injuries will a more important thing.
@shac0le
11 ай бұрын
Great Video
@brucelau2023
11 ай бұрын
one of the biggest turnaround from 1 season to the next in NBA history, but to be fair, after the 2009 Celtics, besides KG's injury in 2009 is the Miami Heat Big which is their main Kryptonite losing to them in the Playoffs for 2 years in a row the Miami Heat was on the rise from 2010-2014 were really the Celtics' biggest hurdle this era
@splashnskillz37
11 ай бұрын
2020 Lakers also did that, also for their 17th title ironically
@chad_b
11 ай бұрын
Doc rivers has been riding that one championship for 15 years now
@sergionieto5735
11 ай бұрын
Andy, I love your videos but the background music at 1:32 is just not it . However the music at 2:54 is goated af!
@vayduong6806
11 ай бұрын
Perking injuries and trade changed the whole team toughness
@anjr9915
11 ай бұрын
To be fair in the 2010-2011 season, we started the season amazing with a healthy Shaq, once he went down and we traded Perk it went downhill. In 2012, we got close and pushed the Heat to 7 in the ECF.
@4392amtrak
11 ай бұрын
You guys were up 3-2 against them, but LeBron's 45 put that to rest
@anjr9915
11 ай бұрын
@@4392amtrak the Celtics were burned out and the Heat capitalized is more like it
@187mrsmith
11 ай бұрын
Basically injuries bro KG caught that crazy injury then when we actually made it back to the finals and was up in the series ready to clinch a 2nd title Perkins gets hurt and next thing u know we can't guard the paint for the life of us an then the lakers come back an beat us!
@brockdenney9248
11 ай бұрын
I can sum your question asked after the 65 second mark in one word. Kobe.
@ayrtonadiong
11 ай бұрын
You may also feature why the 2020 or 2021 champs did not repear
@jacobgross4469
11 ай бұрын
I cherish my 2008 Celtics
@trongray664
11 ай бұрын
00:27 Bro. The answer to those questions is YES. Super teams would emerge regardless of the 2008 Celtics. Doesn't matter who did it first or when. Super teams becoming a thing would be inevitable.
@niccolobanini7190
11 ай бұрын
Rondo got 2 rings and Nash and Paul 0 so rondo can actually lead a team to championship title
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
Rondo didn't lead anything. He was the 4th option in 08 and hadn't peaked yet. He was a role player far removed from his prime in 20.
@niccolobanini7190
11 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma nonetheless I think he is better than Nash and Paul
@CrazyxEnigma
11 ай бұрын
@@niccolobanini7190 I disagree. The ACL tear cut his prime short and even if you just compare that 3-4 year window with Nash and CP3' s best 3-4 windows Rondo comes up short. Plug Nash or CP3 in Rondo's place I doubt the Celtics team only wins once even if KG still gets hurt.
@swordsspears300
11 ай бұрын
If Perkins doesn't shred his knee in game 6 of the 2010 finals, Boston wins game 6 and the championship. Boston was up 3-2 in the series and the injury happened in the 1st quarter. People forget that Perkins was a problem for the laker bigs. I'll go to my grave believing that the celtics win game 6 if the knee injury doesn't happen.
@JJsAthletics
11 ай бұрын
I come across this channel quite often in my recommendations and every time I take a listen, the same glaring issue pops up - lack of depth and original content/opinion. E.g.: "Maybe there were times where Celtics benefitted from injuries to others?" - OK, why not investigate that avenue? Would have added so much to this video. There was couple of more points which were briefly mentioned and would have added a lot of depth. This far, all the content I have come across has been just narration of generally accepted narratives and this really does not draw to the content. Or what do I know.
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