You always lowball in the speed of the one piece characters just enough so that the Naruto characters win you did the same thing in the Roger vs Hashirama video Your goofy self really compared mihawk and black beard with gear two Luffy in speed didn’t even have the balls to compare them to gear fourth
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
You wanna debate it ? discord.gg/pandemonia
@King_Zahndo3612
Жыл бұрын
Alr I joined
@King_Zahndo3612
Жыл бұрын
We gonna debate in text debates
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@King_Zahndo3612 you got clapped lmao I bet you feel real dumb now
@crazydudeofcrazyness
Жыл бұрын
You wanna pull up some non wanked calcs of OP speed then my g? I'm always out here fighting for OP to stand higher than most ppl give it credit for but im not out here trying to say that Luffy is 900,000,000X ftl like some dumbfucks be calcing. Post some reasonable math or allow the crying.
@datboichris5746
Жыл бұрын
Bro started missing the moment he scaled speed💀
@ritish313
Жыл бұрын
If sasori dodges light he is light speed but when base Luffy dodges light it is just reaction speed 😂😂
@BangSamMat
Жыл бұрын
FR
@BangSamMat
Жыл бұрын
BTW base post timeskip Luffy dodged multiple light attacks.
@seanwuzhere12
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I said. Foxy’s beam was sol, Luffy dodged it, Kuma palm fruit was sol, Zoro dodged multiple, Kizaru/pacifista light beams, monster trio dodge them easily. He’s just really bias for no reason.
@BangSamMat
Жыл бұрын
@@seanwuzhere12 a lot of power scalers are like this, try steinox he is a good powerscaler imp.
@roomytick3208
Жыл бұрын
Where did he say that, he said he had attacks that move at light speed
@kwamejunior6842
Жыл бұрын
Now that's some serious downplay on the warlords speed scaling and some serious wank on the akatsuki spees scaling😂, dude started of good just to end up succumbing to his bias
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
How is the speed scaling wanked can you explain at all
@kwamejunior6842
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 none of the akatsuki are ls bruh,not even Obito, until maybe he obtained the rinnegan or the ten tails. And what do you mean by reaction speed isn't equal to attack speed? I've never heard that one before😂if they can perceive and react to ls attacks why can't they attack at that speed too? If they can't then how tf was Rayleigh able to intercept and cut kizaru whilst he was in his light form?? You're just biased man
@daddy8413
Жыл бұрын
Bro even said Law was CITY LEVEL 😭
@kwamejunior6842
Жыл бұрын
@@daddy8413 😂😂😭
@user-vn7cd2jx9m
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 According to the data books killer bees fastest feat should be near sol, but then you said the same guy intercepted the raikage at 100 times sol. 😂😂😂
@seanwuzhere12
Жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with most of this. I think you might have a bias towards naruto tbh. They literally dodged the light beams in sabaody before the time skip (actually jumped over and ran past it) and there’s also characters who’s attacks in one piece who’s attacks are stated to be light speed that most of the warlords scale above. You also used some of the weakest calcs for some warlords AP like Law at city level. It’s your channel and you can say or do whatever you want but I’m just saying I sense some bias and it kinda takes the enjoyment out the video. You also downplayed the hax for the warlords by a LOT.
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Debate me ill literally why that’s dumb af bc I already brought it up and explained why it’s a reaction speed feat sorry one piece fans are slow idk how that makes me bias for example I think Fujitora stomps pain and not a single one piece fan would call me bias if I made that video bc they’re character would win so who tf is really bias 💀 niggas genuinely toon hours of my time scaling as best as I could for brain dead ppl like you to say shit like this pls get off my channel lol also weaker calcs ? Those are basically only calcs and anyone you’re probably thinking ab doesn’t even check mathematically
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 why not make the pain versus fujitaro video? That would be interesting to see
@SkRo0L3w5e
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100you’re dumb af & biased. Still rude to commenters for what? Buddy didn’t say anything disrespectful for you to act like that
@brr7909
Жыл бұрын
Right
@seanwuzhere12
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 didn’t see your comment till now but that was childish and sad. Would’ve definitely debated but you showed your bias and that you’re not worth debating. Didn’t even insult you once.
@calebhastings2901
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why the lightspeed feat for One Piece is being considered invalid. The beams Luffy dodged after the time skip are actual beams of light and he avoids them casually in base. Why are lightspeed feats counted in Naruto but not One Piece?
@n.6847
Жыл бұрын
Luffy also has ftl(+) reaction, combat movement, and continuous combat speed showings wayyyyyyy before the timeskip and even before any of his gears too. The fight with Foxy and Long Ring Long Land Arc.
@Michael-zi3kk
Жыл бұрын
Because if you see an attack coming and you know where it's gonna land and you move out of the way before each one of them hits that doesn't mean that your lightspeed he could see where each one of Kumas attacks were coming from with Observation haki so for instance if I knew a light speed attack was gonna come at me from the left and I move out of the way That doesn't make me light speed
@valkfinitey5413
Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-zi3kk He wasn't using observation haki? But even if he was you still have to be relative enough to dodge regardless
@AnimeALX
Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-zi3kkFALSE! Luffy when fighting Kaido said that he could see his incoming attacks but couldn't fully dodge them because of how fast Kaido was. Even if Luffy can see the attacks incoming, he has to be fast enough to dodge them, therefore he has to be ftl+.
@calebhastings2901
Жыл бұрын
Even if he saw the lasers coming at him using haki Luffy still waited until after the beams were fired then proceeded to weave his head out of the way of all three shots while calling them slow. Since Luffy did in fact weave his head between the shots in base & very casually then I see no reason why he couldn’t throw a punch at that speed just as casually. Going by that logic then any Warlords Luffy encounters after this point that are able to give him a rough fight should easily have combat/reaction speeds multiple times faster than light. Right? I’m honestly not trying to be antagonistic but posting these comments. I’m just genuinely wondering why One Piece speed scaling is being down played compared to Naruto? Naruto has its speed feats of elite Jonin and above characters reacting to light speed attacks as well while in combat. I’d just like to know what the difference is between the two series light speed feats.
@MrSkullkid15
Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight... The Verse(One Piece)that has consistent statements for Lightspeed... and not only stating but showing consistent LS speed fts ON PANEL is SOMEHOW supposed to be "Slower" than the verse with questionable statements and very limited on panel LS speed fts??? Somebody fuckin lying ...
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Wtf are you even talking ab Moron one light-speed statement does not make every character light speed also I scaled characters in this video to MFTL so I don’t understand this comment in the slightest please use your fucking brain
@MrSkullkid15
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 @sbthesage2100 No you use YOUR brain. It has been widely known that One Piece as a whole has far more consistent statements and speed feats and that is why in any major debate site the verse majority of the time scaled higher in speed. Obviously not in AP but speed was the concession where as Shounen like Naruto and Bleach lacked the feats and statements to back up said speed(More so bleach). I'm going to need you to get your facts straight. Back in 2016 and so on I was apart of MVC, OBD(Naruto forums), and Comic Vine. Your scaling is ass trash and disingenuous. You can't even fathom that there is a general consensus of tier. You think these One Piece fans are mad at nothing? Your video is a joke. There are literally better power scaling KZitemrs who are more genuine about the Meta when it comes to the HST. Even if I'm more so a One Piece debater I don't believe OP can beat Naruto God Tiers Like Naruto or Sasuke (Yet) and that is because of AP. There is a balance in which you lack and that lack of balance and knowledge makes your take flaming hot garbage juice.... Period.
@henkupmukho
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 true
@yudasrain4774
8 ай бұрын
Yes so consistent that moving a fraction of the distanceales you faster than the attack? Not how speed works most of the feats are sub rel
@endergameing105
7 ай бұрын
@sbthesage2100 see luffy has light speed reaction speed and doffy blized this luffy and he would get faster in later arcs that means doffy was ftl so luffy is mftl
@MidTeirHuman
Жыл бұрын
Luffy casually dodged light casually pre timeskip zoro dodged light beams and crippled dodged kumas light speed paw attacks the op slander gotta stop💀
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Watch the video it wasn’t casually you moron they have to dodge dodge = combat speed but reaction speed use your brain
@MidTeirHuman
Жыл бұрын
@sbthesage2100 combat speed and travel speed are different things we saw Kuma travel from kawbaka Kingdom to the red line at the blink of an eye so we know Kuma light speed isn't cap and it wasn't like zoro had observation back then and coming from a fight with moria dodging light speed attacks from Kuma can be used to scale most of the warlords so saying they would get blitz is crazy
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@MidTeirHuman how dow/ him traveling somewhere hold any epistemic value to him being light speed ? Lmao those two are literally just unrelated bc you can’t even quantify how much time that would take and saying it’s light speed it baseless
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@MidTeirHuman he dosent dodge light speed attacks re read the fight he barley dodges the confirmed light speed attack ie a reaction speed feat
@MidTeirHuman
Жыл бұрын
@sbthesage2100 Kuma was stated to be light speed due to his Devil fruit I brought up the travel feat to show that it wasn't just a Exaggeration of his abilities and I never said zoro doged them easily he just got off of a fight with moria and oars when I said easily I was referring to luffy dodging the light beams
@alefan0458
Жыл бұрын
Almost everything is calculeted well, except for speeds. Furthermore, a small island level character can't beat a planet level one, even by being as fast or faster than him. All of them have observation haki which is an equivalent to a sharingan and avoid any instant-win tecnique. So yeah, the Akatsuki is losing this match-up.
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you mentioned the fact he outscaled mihawk, Blackbeard at planetary. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their Ap
@kingrippzard2027
Жыл бұрын
The speed is what really annoyed me.
@amaranusa
Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027honestly one piece speed blitzing is very common in anime, they even use it some sports themed anime, so speed in one piece is just to make cool fights...
@kingrippzard2027
Жыл бұрын
@@amaranusa it’s common and cool, but it’s also a very important part of speed scaling.
@amaranusa
Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 theres is no açtual way to assess there speeds unless we know whats there base speeds are, dodging light beams are not one of thet, any thing that has destructive power have mass so it cant travel at the speed of light..
@onenormalguythatbreathes7603
Жыл бұрын
Few things to address Mihawk can foresee miles into the future If it's a Team battle royale it's Really one sided since Mihawk can clear all dangerous paths Crocodile can literally one Touch almost every member of the Akatsuki (THIS IS NOT A JOKE READ THE SHOW OR WATCH IT) Doffy can literally Fly up Make a bird cage and leave The island which would force the Akatsuki to rely on kamui Doing so Mihawk can get a quick scope in the future And see where will they go Also Kuma can legit do a loop where he can Literally grab one of the warlords Damage him/Her Remove the pain and send it to the Akatsuki Members Although ameterasu burns everything Being clairvoyant is still something he can not bypass Mihawk will see it and henceforth leave or avoid any Range Itachi can do to Use it against him or anyone
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Did u even Watch the video I think I clearly explain most of these warlords are to slow to do anything with these abilities also seeing into the future is not really helpful if your opponent vastly out speeds you
@onenormalguythatbreathes7603
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Bro The best Speed feats for the Akatsuki are Just basic light speed Seeing into the future is a big factor here Specially for Characters like Mihawk and Law Being able to react and dodge light beams aren't Light speed in travel speed but it does put up the ability that They can react to Something fast as light Attack at the same speeds is a Huge factor here you have to look at Heck Marco can React and fly at Kizaru's attack against whiteboard he reacted Had the time to throw an ability or pull a move before that attack landed on whiteberad Mihawk and Law who will definitely preform better feats than Marco is Of course faster Oh yeah remember Kuma also has teleportation He can literally grab crocodile, Teleport him and crocodile And one of them can literally hold a Akatsuki Member and make them be unavailable as the fight goes on Itachi and Obito who let's Say can react to this with the Sharingan aren't affected much These two already getting rid of multiple fighters from the other team And for your bullshit Speed debate Just because They can react to light but not move as fast as it doesn't make them Slow in general Remember Yes it's true I can react to a car traveling at 80 m/h but I'm not fast enough to dodge it But we're talking about the speed of light here Light travel's at 300milion miles per second You can literally have the reaction speed to see this but you still need the Dodging speed to actually dodge it Which Luffy did Multiple times against Foxy 3 times against a Pacifista IN BASE ONCE TOO Luffy needs the Combat speed to actually dodge these attack's because they are travelling at the Speed of Light Heck if this was the case throughout the entire fight the warlords are viewing the world in slow motion
@twonony2686
Жыл бұрын
Obito can kamui all of them, and Deidara will trap the warlords and c0 will do the work
@onenormalguythatbreathes7603
Жыл бұрын
@@twonony2686 Obito will try but Mihawk will see it Heck if he tried to at least use it against someone it's going to leave him wide open wtf he he gonna do once Kuma teleports behind him and Sends him to the void
@HaxHavok
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 cap the only real akasuki members with impressive speeed feats are, Obitio, Itachi, Kisama, Maybe deidara and even then It’s the bare minimum of Light speed, On top of that one piece character Have not only better durability then Naruto characters, But also way better stamina
@bryanwoo8415
Жыл бұрын
Mihawk isn't confirmed to have conqueror's. Also, the light speed is relevant because Luffy dodged multiple on each side, meaning that he moved his head fast enough in the opposite direction to dodge light, or in your analogy hitting a baseball on your left followed instantly by another on the right.
@ohblivian
Жыл бұрын
we all know he has that shit
@bryanwoo8415
Жыл бұрын
@@ohblivian Yeah but it's not confirmed
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
He pretty much has it confirmed but whatever bro also you’re fucking waffling Slightly moving your head is still reaction speed dummy
@chimera6485
Жыл бұрын
If mihawk does not have advanced kings haki then zoro would have already surpassed him and we know that hasn't happened yet. There is a reason that zoro who has trained under him for 2 years put mihawk on a piller above everybody.
@calebhastings2901
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Reacting and calling it slow.
@atulshahi-6-11
Жыл бұрын
one piece characters have to use their abilities very precisely so that they won't destroy the island cause most of them are DF users, they hold back a lot.
@electron9820
Жыл бұрын
Still don’t get the whole “reaction speed” argument. When Luffy fought Boa Hancock’s sisters, they both had reaction speed much faster than Luffy due to Observation haki. Yet Luffy was still able to blitz them. Even currently in OP, Luffy was able to use futuresight on Kaido yet Kaido still perception blitzed him. Hell even Niji has an attack called “Light Speed Sword” in which Ichiji scales to just for Ichiji to get slammed at point blank by katakuri. In the same arc Oven could perceive Ichiji’s attacks yet Sanji went so fast that he managed to jump in front of Oven from a distance behind him, attack him, and then disappear before Oven could even see who it was.
@avoidgel1685
Жыл бұрын
Yessirrr 🗣️ 🗣️
@MrSkullkid15
Жыл бұрын
Also gotta remember that Luffy straight up said that Kaidos attack was too fast to react to even though he called laser beams slow. If that doesn't tell you that they're combating at FTL speeds I don't know what will. Kizaru is literally making his move and I gotta wonder what excuses will be made after this shit.
@avoidgel1685
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!! Like if I can dodge light attacks but someone comes along and hits me than that person just hit me faster than light, like duhhhh. And luffy is able to keep up in speed.
@HaxHavok
Жыл бұрын
Jimbie would Beat Kisame no question
@SCP_096
Жыл бұрын
Hippity hoppity,your water is my property
@HaxHavok
8 ай бұрын
@@rishidharu1500 nah
@HaxHavok
8 ай бұрын
@@rishidharu1500 go try that shit with someone else
@ghostyartists2006
8 ай бұрын
@@SCP_096 actually,Jimbei can manipulate water Hippy Hippity 😂Lol
@HaxHavok
8 ай бұрын
@@rishidharu1500 I’m pretty sure jimbie Has feats bro I’m just finna go back and on something so stupid with a lil ass kid
@JBirdInfo
Жыл бұрын
Dude, weren't kumas paw attack stated to be light speed, with zoro evading multiple at once during thriller bark
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
He said he repels air at the light speed and creates a shockwave that dosent necessitate the pad cannons moving at light speed also wouldn’t make sense considering he has literal light beam attack that zoro barley dodges while he’s floating through the pad cannons W profile pic btw
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Zoro under high stakes is light speed movement under normal circumstances he is realistically pre time skip. But if Kuma is repelling the air at light speed the shockwaves wouldn't lose any speed and be moving at light speed as well
@bnnttjn1
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100cope. Idk why you stay trynna down play one piece speed feats😂 author says “it’s light speed” then it is. That’s how it goes man😂 Author said “luffy can make everyone around him a cartoon” and it happened. This is the life of powerscaling. You don’t get to negate the mangaka’s definitive statements because you disagree. Btw are you black?
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@bnnttjn1 lmaooo this is a non argument you sound dumb
@bnnttjn1
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 explain? I mean saying “you sound dumb” does nothing. Explain how im wrong or stfu😂
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
It baffles me that Naruto speed scaling characters faster than light just accepted by all. But one piece speed scaling well he just reacts to the light beam or aim dodging that's not combat speed. I just don't see why Naruto dodging light fang while having several sensing forms like sage mode and six path abilities plus speed amps but Luffy dodging light beams doesn't make him ftl in combat
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
I never use the light fang to scale lmao the fang can be TSOL of light but Naruto dodged his neck swing not the attack speed also if you bothered to pay attention dodging something is reaction speed not combat speed
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 used it as an example not that you brought it up. Off of this ppl use this to say Naruto is ftl
@Ykwashappen
8 ай бұрын
@@silvertongue.242_99 Naruto is still mftl regardless of that feat
@kingscoop1200
Жыл бұрын
Like deadass...you know u cappin...Cuz if Mihawk keep Itachi busy...then the akatski stand no chance....who stopping Boa, Law, and Doffy? Deidra , Hidan, and Kaku are done bruv😂
@thetss1938
Жыл бұрын
He just disregarded all the one piece speed feats
@krqstair
Жыл бұрын
@@thetss1938 he has massive bias cause he's capping the warlords at island level which is disingenuous since islands in one piece can be as big as continents in our world like Alabasta which was calculated to be as big as Australia
@kingscoop1200
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim I think Law can handle him
@kingscoop1200
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim check out some of the recent episodes new feats inbound bruv lol...hope ur having a decent day btw 💜
@Just_Sam6942
Жыл бұрын
Tbh i feel like when the day comes for mihawk and blackbeard to show their true power i think that they would be way faster mihawk isnt the strongest swordsman for nothing and knowing how oda does things we would see some big power showcase from mihawk by himself. Which will turn this fight upside down i think that the only way to finish all of these debates about one piece is when it ends that way we would have seen everything about everyones power but good video and an underatted channel at that
@Rahul__.Singh_.684
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right 👍
@wavereaper
Жыл бұрын
Bro I love both shows and this was a very entertaining video to watch! Love the analysis of both sides also!
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
Didn't he say mihawk, Blackbeard are at small planet in AP. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their AP. So idk how he came to the conclusion the Akatsuki wins in the end
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
That’s literally just not how that works do you not know what hacks are or something 💀
@mizuchi999
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100why bro so mad
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@mizuchi999 how am i mad lmaooo
@TTV_JustAToma
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 yea it does kinda work like that
@henkupmukho
Жыл бұрын
It's call cap,, the dood is capping 😂😂😂,, mehawk and law will destroy the akatsuki 😂😂
@AnimeALX
Жыл бұрын
Honestly Mihawk and Law are enough to 2vAll the Akatsuki and win because Mihawk is comparable to Shanks (who can attack someone with his Conq haki from several miles away outside a country and pin point your exact location with his observation haki and then rain down Conq haki lightning upon you and OHKO a 3B berri man and his right hand man at the same time). Mihawk also has future sight so he can see every attack thrown at him. Law uses room and can amputate everyone and since Narutoverse doesn't have haki, then Law legitimately one shots them and he can teleport on the same level as the Flying Raijin and the Akatsuki has absolutely 0 answers for that technique and that technique is put on a pedestal in the verse so if Law can just casually teleport around like the 4th hokage then htf does the Akatsuki win? Plus Law can create an attack that can go down all the way into the core of the One Piece world (which is wayyyy bigger than the Naruto world). Then add in Kuma who can simply one tap and send Akatsuki members flying away and Crocodile who can OHKO if he lands a grab and the other Warlords for back up and it is a sweep. Warlords are vastly stronger than the Akatsuki but the Akatsuki are the better team unit though. BTW if you mention Itachi's susano, you guys realize that Mihawk and Law can one tap it and destroy it since they can casually destroy whole mountain ranges since early on into One Piece? Like dude that is Madara susano level of power that they showed when they were just half way through the series and we are in the final saga and they jumped up leaps and bounds in power.
@twonony2686
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@AnimeALX
Жыл бұрын
@@twonony2686 yes.
@RogBearD
11 ай бұрын
@@AnimeALX leech hawk at least was made use of something huh?
@tempo1419
Жыл бұрын
did bro say lightning was 2x faster than light💀💀, also why are you lowballing one piece speed feats
@hassanhassan-os5oq
Жыл бұрын
They have been ftl since og Naruto
@doriankamanzi6874
Жыл бұрын
My god finally someone who said attack power is not destructive power so many say they are the same
@waykotv
Жыл бұрын
14:26 HUHHHH, Ik reaction and combat is different but if I can perceive and Dodge something meaning I have to MOVE MY BODY in order to do so. Would I not be able to fight in that same speed since I just did in reaction terms though…?
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Reactions do not not equal movements 😭 just bc you dodge something dosen't mean you travel or fight at the same speed as the object holy shit also all calcs for fluffy dodging the beams are relativistic not ftl
@HaxHavok
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 that analogy kinda sucks not gone Lie
@waykotv
Жыл бұрын
@@HaxHavok it really did, but I looked into it more online and I guess it kinda makes sense, if you can perceive or know something comking then you can move out of the way. But on the other hand if a person is able to move and fight at the same speed as the thing you had to dodge before hand then you would be inevitably slower
@avoidgel1685
Жыл бұрын
Even oda is making parellesim to tell u it’s light speed. Before time skip kizaru blitzed luffy and said “too slow” fast forward to post time skip a beam that was described as KIZARU’S beams was fired at luffy and guess wat luffy said? He said “too slow” like come on now if u ask the author if luffy could move at light speed at that point I’m sure he would say yes. Sometimes we get so caught up in all this power scaling and science n shit that we forget about wat the author is indirectly yet very clearly trying to tell us 🤦🏽♂️
@omokoladeowoeye2939
3 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100ALAYE!!!! Agree bro. Ur not trained and ur using urself as an example for trained and expert individuals on combat. Ur mediocre compared to them. Once u can react to somn .. you train urself to counter it my bro. Stop saying dumb shii
@xadoc1230
Жыл бұрын
Of course, the warlords beat their ass
@xadoc1230
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim Tell me how
@xadoc1230
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim I have watched and or read both of them not completely, but enough to where I have a pretty fair grasp on each of the worlds but I really want to hear why you think the akatsuki would beat the warlords
@xadoc1230
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim Obito is the only akatsuki member I don’t know that much about can you explain his powers for me
@ke-go7xj
3 ай бұрын
@@xadoc1230You wont even take a second to read my comment. Youll see one statement you dont like nd automatically respond. Reason I dont do internet debates. But Naruto is tricky they are ninja i bet you itachi/nagato can singlehandedly defeat all warlords. You read only that and started to reply without reading my whole comment thats how ik you biased. Itachi one shots most of these characters. Too many hax and skills. Plus a master of all natures such as wind,water,earth and fire. Nagato has rinnegan that's enough to solo these characters itachi is a walking hax thats it
@xadoc1230
3 ай бұрын
@@ke-go7xj one I read your comments. And two this was 10 months ago get over it
@andrereed4540
Жыл бұрын
What’s the fastest move in naruto because I don’t see any characters doing anything crazy with speed feats besides Minatos teleportation raikage and Naruto dodging the light attack from madara
@MrMegaSuperDuperMe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm wondering where the 118x FTL calc came from.
@xfrederic564
Жыл бұрын
haku literally moves at light speed and naruto with a lil kyuubi chakra can track and punch him. Btw haku isn’t a jounin level threat and kakashi thought they could handle him. Madaras attack was instantaneous not light speed
@lukaskrivda9374
Жыл бұрын
@@xfrederic564same haku that as Edo tense blitz war arc kakashi who scale to Kcm in speed as shown in jinjuriki vs jinjuriki fight
@xfrederic564
Жыл бұрын
@@lukaskrivda9374 kcm is def aviv kakashi in speed even in base form naruto mostly outruns him to somewhere
@theonetrueedgelord3596
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMethe calc is in the description
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU
Жыл бұрын
8:44-8:54 as a One Piece fan, I would’ve NEVER thought of this
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
Doffy is clearly minimum continental to multi continental. Since Luffy in gear 3rd over power or match a character with continental splitting power
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Yes I will make sure to correct myself in the future I’ve seen multi Continental kong guns however the verdict still stands
@silvertongue.242_99
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 ok cool no problem
@madisonbordenave4869
Жыл бұрын
Mihawk is soloing the entire akatsuki pretty easily. Law and doflamingo together would also easily destroy them. Few of the akatsuki or Naruto characters in general are Ben mountain level and we see law casually destroy a mountain range and law and doggy both casually destroyed a fujitora meteor that was moving faster than madras’s meteor. It’s the seven warlords and it’s not even close….damn I forgot kuma is also probably casually beating them bc he can move ftl casually as well and outclasses all of them with simple speed
@kakashihatake1029
Жыл бұрын
You're right.
@crazyelementalguy9649
Жыл бұрын
I think if he didnt use the Warlords from when they first joined it would be totally different bc he used Alabasta Crocodile and not Marineford or Cross Guild Croc and he used BB with only the darkness fruit and not the Quake.
@madisonbordenave4869
Жыл бұрын
@@crazyelementalguy9649 they’re still losing. Like I said, Mihawk solos. Doffy and Law also beat them pretty soundly. He says that fresh off of training post time skip gear second luffy is only reacting to light and it doesn’t mean that he can actually move at light speed. Not only is that wrong on the surface, but he’s wrong within his own example. You can see once he gets the laser shot at him, he goes into gear second then speed blitzes the pacifista before the laser even gets to where he was standing. Doflamingo and law both scale to this speed at bare minimum. (Not to mention that law can teleport without having to rely on throwing a kunai first like the 4th hokage, who has been shown to speed blitz even obito. So technically Law can teleport faster and at a greater variety of angles)Also again there is a massive AP gap. The akatsuki are losing baddddd.
@crazyelementalguy9649
Жыл бұрын
@@madisonbordenave4869 Yeah trust me im on the Warlords side for sure but what im saying is i think this was the reason why he made the Warlords lose, and i also dont agree with the speed calcs he stated bc i believe Mihawk should be faster.
@getpape4126
Жыл бұрын
And madara claps warlords
@MXJXS
Жыл бұрын
i dont think this guy is right abt the speed, there are other videos in further detail talking abt speed and luffy had 900x the speed of light and we know shanks upscales from that and mihawk is relative or if not faster than him
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
So I’m not right bc someone else is makes sense and no there isint all Luffy speed scales are calc stacking off reaction speed feats
@MXJXS
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 I’ve seen many different scales, and them ones seem legit, so I’m not trying t be rude or nothing but I like the other scales more
@datboichris5746
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100Your scaling isn’t common knowledge like other One Piece/Naruto scalers so why would it make sense for us to believe your flawed scaling is correct?
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@datboichris5746 wtf are you talking ab what ab the scaling id flawed lmao
@Maximumpower72
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100you’re scaling some of the warlords to city or small island but in the one piece world these islands can span the length of continents. A major downplay in power and I have a question if you’re allowing Blackbeard to nullify jutsu then Blackbeard should be able to pull them in with that case.
@PER578
Жыл бұрын
So what about chinjao. He is able to split an ice continent with one attack and doffy should masively scale above that. 4th gear luffy is at 30x multiplier from sai, who has the same feat as chinjao
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
That feat has never been calced to be Continental and that is prime chinjao lol
@PER578
Жыл бұрын
So if he didn't split a continent then what did he split? and let's not forget the ice isn't normal ice either.
@mrredbanks8342
Жыл бұрын
The only reason Naruto’s creator didn’t put guns in Naruto is bc they wouldn’t be able to outrun bullets how tf they destroy the warlords
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
What type a bull shit head canon is this one piece charcters get shot with bullets if I’m not mistaken
@mrredbanks8342
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 yea they can but they can also doge them
@thewanderersrespite8074
Жыл бұрын
"The One Piece world is 9x larger than our sun" I looked up that post and was reminded that I can't do math, but I'm running with that as canon now
@marqusmedina5983
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't see how the warlords lose when law can one shot them all at once
@dandanyellow
3 ай бұрын
same with obito. he solos the verse
@dewayneanderson9020
2 ай бұрын
Sugar exist and so does fuji@@dandanyellow
@OtakuJuanma2
Жыл бұрын
I'm a one piece fan but the Akstsuki clearly win. That said, did you seriously start off by saying freaking Sasori scales to island level?
@AnimeALX
Жыл бұрын
Bro most of the Akatsuki gets dog walked by Mihawk. Add Kuma in and they have 0 defense from the Paw Paw fruit since they have no haki.
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Yes he does maybe you just don’t understand why
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Key word most
@OtakuJuanma2
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Yes I understand. You're equating "they captured a jinjuuriki' to "they can tank and thus deal as much damage as a bijuu bomb"
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@OtakuJuanma2 that's not what I said at all tard. I said his iron sand is considered an stronger weapon than shukaku who is island level
@MrMegaSuperDuperMe
Жыл бұрын
In case anyone is wondering, there's a youtuber who calced the sizes of both the One Piece and Naruto worlds. His name is DcDoesPhysics. According to his calcs, the One Piece world is about 37 times bigger than Earth, and the Naruto world is 6 times bigger than Earth.
@krqstair
Жыл бұрын
and bro was saying the warlords are city level LMFAO
@SkRo0L3w5e
Жыл бұрын
@@krqstairhe has a clear bias on his assessment
@SkRo0L3w5e
Жыл бұрын
@@raizelnnim that’s not remotely true. you must get tired riding as often as you do
@youngfish1370
Жыл бұрын
@@krqstairthey’re no matter how big a planet is which isn’t even confirmed. A country level feat would still be country level
@TTV_JustAToma
Жыл бұрын
@@youngfish1370 not really. If planet a is bigger than planet b. That means the islands and stuff on planet a would be bigger than planet b.
@krqstair
Жыл бұрын
Sanji before his awakening was routinely dodging laster beams from Queen all of Onigashima, OP even has light speed feats pre timeskip, you accept the naruto light speed feats but completely ignore the OP ones?? Be soo fr
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
You can debate my on anything in this video and I’ll debunk any pre timeskip light speed feats just pull up to the server discord.gg/pandemonia
@youngfish1370
Жыл бұрын
This man cannot scale. Right outcome but can’t scale
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
So debate me on my scaling 😂 discord.gg/yWc5DYF8
@gamingfirebasketworst9204
5 ай бұрын
Bro forgot jingle can control water😂 THATS LITERY HIS FIGHTING STYLE
@MiguelLopez-yc2rh
Жыл бұрын
I think the outcome of a team battle between both organizations would be very difficult to predict for several reasons: 1. The lack of information of both sides about each other powers. It doesnt matter how strong a character is if it faces an opponent that he doesnt know what its capable of or the nature of its powers. For example if Akatsuki doesnt know Law can steal their hearts or switch their bodies, how will they counter that? 2. The lack of teamwork between the different members of each organization. The strongest abilities or attacks of some of the members of each side may hurt or even kill its own teammates. 3. Compatibility between its opponents. A member of the Akatsuki may be strong against one member of the Shichibukai but weak against another one so the outcome would be mainly determined by who he fights first. 4. Numerical superiority. There is the possibility of two members of an organization working together to overwhelm a single foe of the other team. PD: I think you are underestimating Jimbei too much
@TuxedoMask512
Жыл бұрын
luffy been moving light speed since snake man.
@HaxHavok
Жыл бұрын
Bro smoking to say only black beard and miHawk would survive
@moobear8320
Жыл бұрын
Nah that's a meat rider is crazy. Jinbe lives in the water. he fights in the water. And when he is in the water gets stronger and he manipulate water. like any other fishman this is crazy if your doing a vs battle please do it right.
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Literally never said jimbe loses to water you must actually be fucking stupid to think when I say most of the warlords that I’m not referencing ones with devil fruit powers. Also if you’re gonna comment make sure you don’t sound fucking retarted pls 😂
@zaedenstewart2497
Жыл бұрын
Then why does jimbe die so quickly
@moobear8320
Жыл бұрын
@@zaedenstewart2497 What are you talking about?
@WeyesC
5 ай бұрын
The speed lowball is crazy boa and kuma are fast asf
@brodidoyle4072
Жыл бұрын
You lowballed the hell out of the warlords especially crocodiles who is probably the third strongest one
@JuanPerez-ru5qt
Күн бұрын
Bro if the one piece world is 9x larger than our sun it would be a star. No question something is up.
@JuanPerez-ru5qt
Күн бұрын
Naruto universe - I have the power of repulsion and attraction so I can create a mini celestial body. One piece universe - I have a sword so I can cut through a mountain with more force than a nuclear weapon.
@Mazdha
Жыл бұрын
i dont think anyone can reason with this man... he will die on that hill
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Wdym reason debate me on whatever you have gripes with discord.gg/pandemonia if I’m wrong ab anything prove it
@Mazdha
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 explain how if someone has a set destructive capacity that they can also tank it or the other way round (i dont use discord) like Dedara cant tank his strongest attack
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@Mazdha if you don’t have discord idc what you have to say make one and we can actually debate
@mattmcwhirt4146
Жыл бұрын
I love one piece but I find it super difficult to see how white beard is small planet lvl. Feats over statements ex: 9tails is stated to have the power to turn the world to ash that doesn’t scale the 9tails to planet lvl same thing with white beard.
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
You’re just making claims with 0 evidence
@Mazdha
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 its in a data book and u dint mention Black beards other df the gura gura no mi u are 100% baised
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
@@Mazdha except I 100% specified it was black beard as a warlord you’re. Clearly the one who’s bias but we can debate ab it if you want discord.gg/pandemonia
@sethsaboss
Жыл бұрын
Akatsuki are getting their backs blown out 😂
@andrescalvo4979
Жыл бұрын
no offense, i can tell you put lots of time and effort into these videos and ur consistent, but u always downplay the one piece verse in your naruto vs one piece videos, in many of these machups, the one piece verse clearly takes the win.
mihawk is not a confirmed user of conqueror's haki, so you can't say in this video that he has it.
@MrGalRoz
Жыл бұрын
there is absolutely no way the OP world is 9 times larger than our sun. it's roughly 4 times larger than our earth, only. idk what kind of math you did, mostly likey meth. if OP world was 9 times the size of the sun, it would take Luffy years of straight sailing just to get to the red line from reverse mountain.
@Yonani1
Жыл бұрын
Kuma alone would speed blitz all them 😂
@shavarclarke7212
7 ай бұрын
9:05 hold did you mention doffy has conquerors, observation and armament
@CursedkingRyomen
Жыл бұрын
So who win? I didn’t watch full ep
@limbo9993
Жыл бұрын
Tl;dr - The Akatsuki win because of speed and hax.
@Simon_256
Жыл бұрын
@@limbo9993there’s absolutely no way anyone in the aktuskii has better speed feats then one piece characters, there’s people in one piece casually dodging light it self
@blazespins6875
Жыл бұрын
@@Simon_256this video was so biased 💀
@theonetrueedgelord3596
Жыл бұрын
@@Simon_256 i can casually dodge a car from a distance. Doesn't mean im faster than the car or that much faster
@daddy8413
Жыл бұрын
@@theonetrueedgelord3596The difference is. That One Piece characters are dodging and reacting to light speed attacks at POINT BLANK RANGE! Also Luffy is blitzing Foxy who can react to his own photons
@Shirito_Kun7
10 ай бұрын
Lower Members - Pain SBtheSage's logic...😅😅😅
@nikotaraz
6 ай бұрын
1) Buggy > Luffy G2 ID > Rob Gucchi > Enel > Conti+ > Nora > Croc Alabasta Arc > Control of all the sand in Alabasta = Low Conti 2) The number of Uta fans is 87990000000000 living beings. So, that's more than 10000 times the current population of Earth. If you do a proportion with the surface area of the planet, it should be 5101000000000 km^2, and a radius of about 637000 km, which is a little less than the radius of the Sun. So the planet (well, or it's a huge Dyson sphere or something) should be the size of a star, even if only Uta fans are considered. 3)The water in One Piece is a living thing that does not allow users of the devil fruit to swim. 4)And also the shadow in the One Piece world is the other half of every creature's soul. If you are without a part of this soul under the sun, you will be erased from existence. 5)Shadows of Moria was able to cross 1/4 of the entire Grand Line in a blink of an eye. Even the weakest characters in the arc were able to react and catch the shadows. If I only count OP characters achievements then they will have 1000+ FTL and large planets starting with admirals easily through doriki. If I only count Naruto/Boruto character achievements they will have sub-relativistic speed and large planets at max. One Piece characters simply have more feats.
@kaeros4184
5 ай бұрын
i feel like light speed is an overexagguration cuz no way SASORI is moving at the speed of LIGHT
@user-vn7cd2jx9m
10 ай бұрын
Sasori was never compared to darui. You say killer bee is 117×ftl when Naruto isn't even near that. You say itachi speed blitz when his fastest attack which is seemingly impossible to dodge is lightning speed. You say Luffy vs doffys clash was only island level when laws clash with fujitaros meteor alone was island level You are so biased
@shavarclarke7212
7 ай бұрын
9:54 satellite dawg it’s a satellite 👀
@itsthatoneguy6309
Жыл бұрын
All I am going to say is pre time skip Luffy is massively faster than light cuz he was able to throw a punch faster than Enel in awaken form which is as fast as light base form and when you awaken it you get multipliers to everything so he would be even faster than light but Luffy with a big ass gold ball on his hand was able to out speed him.
@watchery.819
3 ай бұрын
I people are talking about power scaling, but what’s going on with the audio, I’m watch this on my tv, an I don’t know whether to raise the volume or lower because it keeps changing lol It’s like it’s in flux
@looser1169
Жыл бұрын
In any case naruto verse needs to weave hand signs 😂😂😂 That much opening is Enough for one piece charecters like mihawk and law 😂😂. Warlords will win instantly😂😂.
@user-rk8cl7ne8k
8 ай бұрын
Bruh the speed math ain't mathing 😂. Just overrating Naruto and degrading op
@niteshdhakal295
Жыл бұрын
if they fight in Naruto verse most likely Akatsuki wins , IF they fight in OP verse no doubt Warlords wins, remember guys only real water hates evolved beings with DF but not some water made up of chakra, Kisame is not nullifying any DF users!
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Water jutsu is real water wtf 💀 all chakra based jutsu make real elements do you have some sort of basis on why chakra elements aren’t real ?
@niteshdhakal295
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 even if that is real, the question is if it will weaken the DF users or not? Since they are from an entirely different universe and why water from OP universe weakens the df users is a whole new story, Why would you want to argue over such an stupid attempt of comparing two different anime verses? You almost looked stupid even though i watched the whole video out of curiosity 😀
@Rahul__.Singh_.684
Жыл бұрын
Kisame is useless becoz crocodile can absorb all the water😂
@strider_hiryu850
2 ай бұрын
"aside from Zetsu, Team Taka, and Weevile" why? you never gave a reason. this is arbitrary AF
@ibukungolo4261
Жыл бұрын
you didn't use every akatsuki character that you should have and you didnt use white mask obito or mention that orochimaru could also summon the 3rd kazekage
@eetu7880
Жыл бұрын
Your warlord scaling is just wrong kuma,croco,boa and jimbei> doffy pretty easily + your speed calculations are just ridicilous
@Dasyntnow
7 ай бұрын
Pain is one of the slower Akatsuki members?☠️
@rezx9043
Жыл бұрын
Idk man everytime u do a one piece video it seems like a EXTREME lowball there’s no way Itachi and Kisame are faster then Mihawk and BB. When they scale beyond post ts Luffy who dodged light this Luffy is complete fodder trash in speed compared to Mihawk and BB The pacifesta laser is confirmed to be Kizaru’s too we also see Zoro dodging light against kuma I don’t get how Itachi is basically soloing the warlords let’s not forget the massive AP difference Mihawk ,BB and even Doffy are multi Continental range while the Akatsuki are large country at best .
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
You keep saying dodge like I didn’t explain why dodging dosent equate to combat speed also do you not understand that hacks can make up for AP and that I scaled the Akatsuki higher in speed like the cope on your part is insane I can debate you on any refutations you have with the scale and debunk any cancer light speed calc stacking for the straw hats
@rezx9043
Жыл бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 first off chill you’re spazzing like a 12 year old . Your speed argument make no sense when we see Luffy fight Kaido and try to use haki but got blitzed the same Luffy who dodged light we later see him fight Kaido and react to him he definitely has light speed combat the warlords should scale . Let’s not forget Blackbeard and Ace fighting when black beard said light can’t even escape his darkness and Ace was still able to fight him and Kizaru fighting characters like Marco who’s far slower then most of the warlords . I don’t agree with Akatsuki having light speed combat at all . And yes hax can bypass a AP difference but not when it’s Country vs Multi Continental - planet lvl that argument makes no sense when the warlords are already faster and have better AP . There’s a reason why ppl in the comments don’t agree with your one piece scaling .
@thetruedefenders6776
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@deinsports8328
3 ай бұрын
Khonan loses to boa with out prep time Itachi beats law edo itachi Kisame loses to Jimbe Sasori can use the fruit or abilatys of any one in his stringes Diedara beats crocodile because dust bombs are smaller then sand Kakazu loses to kuma Hidan loses to buggy Orochimaru beats weival Pain beats black beard Obito solos me hawk
@idontusecolgate
Жыл бұрын
Bro is mad biased💀
@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats
Жыл бұрын
Mihawk vs obito is the Real debete here
@Svt_Lyo
Жыл бұрын
Obito 6 path
@davidrojas8210
8 ай бұрын
this was some goofy as scaling at the end. just completely downplayed all the lightspeed feats in one piece and ignored the extreme power gap between both sides just to give the akatsuki the win.
@Masqurade22
Жыл бұрын
Black beard can’t stop jutsu 😂😂. How is chakra the same as a devil fruit ? 😂😂
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Vs equalization tf
@pongpong123able4
Жыл бұрын
Akatsuki turns to stone. End of fight
@zaedenstewart2497
Жыл бұрын
He acked like jimbe doesn't exist he would just use kisame wayer to his advantage
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
Wtf are you talking ab I said he gets blitzed and one shot bc of his stats fucking cope ab it
he reacted to it not dodge it plus at that moment he was on verge of his death, just about to succumb to his illness.
@guardianlamb9962
13 күн бұрын
STOP SHOWING UR GODAM PROFILE PIC ON THE SCREEN no offense...
@At-sign
11 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight you think zoro is ftl cause he kept up with”5x” ftl kaido while luffy did to but he’s not lol
@rexhosh
Жыл бұрын
I've read most of the comments in this comment section and honestly I agree 95% of them.
@HamzahAhmad-db5cy
Жыл бұрын
The OPs replies to anyone who disagrees with him by throwing insults such as "moron" or "slow", even if the comment that disagree with him was respectful or cordial. L childish behavior.
@FiSA01
Жыл бұрын
op characters made out of light.. him: make room for my akatsuki
@Juston-tz8zi
10 ай бұрын
Just because you use an attack that is light doesn't mean it's light speed we saw this with kizaru vs Luffy in the manga he perception blitzed gear 4 which would be a upgrade from his base stats showing you that any light speed feat before that was null
@Juston-tz8zi
10 ай бұрын
This is not saying the Akatsuki would win even though they would that's just saying the "light speed" attacks yall bring before this aren't valid
@bigt100
Жыл бұрын
Fire vid one ocean sovereignty with divine departure mixed into one attack would thrash the yonko i think admirals vs kage would be better or warlords
@zaimhoque8418
Жыл бұрын
lol this Narutard lowballed warlords Warlords one shots askatsuki
@grerook9427
8 ай бұрын
Super weird take, you severely overestimated the power of the warlords while severely underestimating their speed. One piece consistently has shown to be light speed and above, not just the top tiers but also the mid tiers, and the AP scale from the size of the planet is BS, there is 0 reason to assume that the OP planet is any bigger than our own, other than the obvious plot whole of the river in alabasta being taken as fact. Also in terms of the akatsuki this is a plain example of when power scaling gets so convoluted that it starts to contradict the source material, by your logic pain would get humiliated by kisame, which is such a bad take it’s insane. The top tier warlords would blitz and one shot most akatsuki members with the exemption of obito, who still would get destroyed by mihawk.
@houseofvoid2153
Ай бұрын
Dude, this is cringe. You downplayed all One Piece feats. This os a straight Wash for the Warlords. Stop lying.
@user-tk3rt8sy2y
Жыл бұрын
you made this video without thinking about the comments you'll get 💀💀
@eddieboston6540
9 ай бұрын
the akatsuki downplay is hard they upscale from haku who is light speed going all out
@not_clyde5758
Жыл бұрын
bro did not just claim that pre timeskip zoro who dodged light beams and who most warlords upscale from isnt faster then light. Youre the only person to ever make this claim. And then you call people dumb and morons when they call you out on your bs.
@sbthesage2100
Жыл бұрын
That dosent scale to his combat speed in any way and assuming speed without calculations is fallacious since him dodging the pad cannons is calced at 4% TSOL and him pretty much getting clippped by the laser was 19% TSOL and again these are reaction speed feats also how does zoro scale to the warlords I mentioned at all he fucking dosent. Once again tho this dosent even matter bc those feats are reaction speed feats that don’t scale to combat speed i any way cope. Sorry you don’t now how to read and scale while also taking things out of context no one’s calling me out on my BS most people who like one piece just munch on crayons all day lmao
@larryrzv6173
7 ай бұрын
the only way for the akatsuki to beat the shishibukai is if they have obito fused with the 10 tails biju or some shit like that, how the hell are you going to scale mihawk's speed so low and increase obito's speed so much in base form, osea what the hell. And no the databooks don't count that silly book says a lot of things that are then contradicted in the manga, for example it says that the amaterasu is as hot as the sun but instead in the manga they are silly that by just taking off your jacket you are saved. And no the genjutsu can not affect characters outside the universe of naruto, it is known that the genjutsu work by affecting the flows of chakra that go to the brain, in that way affect the nervous system to make the body believe things that are not real, and if you can read well then you will understand that if you do not have chakra to be a character outside the universe of naruto then you can not be affected by a genjutsu. The only way is that we equalize the energies of chakra and haki.
@Torodos93
11 ай бұрын
Kizaru is over 900 times faster than light and Shanks can keep up with Kizaru and Mihawk can keep up with Shanks so Mihawk will also be at least 800 to 900 faster than light
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