If that one anon on 4chan who said "Melee is a Solved Game" didn't eat his words when Falcon and Pikachu won their first majors, then he definitely is after Slippi came out and Yoshi and Sheik got their victories. Who knows what's next for Melee?
@ikekellogg
Жыл бұрын
DONKEY KONG
@edboi5354
Жыл бұрын
Docta mario
@Supertaldo916
Жыл бұрын
A Mewtwo winning a Major
@OfficialJabe
Жыл бұрын
Ness and zelda have some shit broo
@JackCohoon
Жыл бұрын
@@OfficialJabe im sorry but....no
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
Жыл бұрын
Also, even during the time of Captain Jack, Isai's Sheik was something of legend. He went tryhard just a few times with his Sheik and it looked unstoppable.
@ln8496
Жыл бұрын
Unstoppable in a pre cc meta way
@Quackra
Жыл бұрын
Captain Jack, not Zack this actually matters that say the correct player here as Captain Zack has never touched Melee that I have known of.
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
Жыл бұрын
@@ln8496 Naw, his movement made up for a lot of that. Isai had godly neutral spacing with his Sheik and Fox back in the day.
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
Жыл бұрын
@@Quackra Corrected. Thx
@Quackra
Жыл бұрын
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson no problem
@SuperAmazingJared
Жыл бұрын
Yoshi's first major win was in 2022, not 2021
@SuperAmazingJared
Жыл бұрын
Cool video btw! :)
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAmazingJared Glad you enjoyed it! - Delf the Editor
@winterwarden
5 ай бұрын
@@johnnoiom edit it right next time 👺
@johnnoiom
5 ай бұрын
@@winterwarden that’s what it said in the script son, my Smash Melee knowledge is to that of a Nun’s memory the first time she broke her duck 👍
@winterwarden
5 ай бұрын
@@johnnoiom how dare you reply earnestly to my troll comment
@samskott2344
Жыл бұрын
Great video but sad that there wasn't even a mention of Kirbykaze. It wasn't for very long, but in 2011 ans 2012 KK looked like he might enter as the 6th God. He came up short and started falling off shortly after, but he came suuuper close to winning a major a few times.
@SuperPichu17
Жыл бұрын
This video is great and I found it very fun to watch, but there is a key detail missing, notably that Drephen playing Sheik won EVO North 2007 which was not mentioned and would have been an example of a Sheik winning an event after KDJ's victory at MLG Long Island 2007 being a month afterward.
@kikewickens6324
Жыл бұрын
Also I think it's worth mentioning (I very rarely see people mention this run) that Plup made this a goal at Riptide 2021 by only going sheik, and very almost did it getting 2nd, beating KoDoRiN, SFAT (who is historically amazing against sheik and often makes Plup switch) and most importantly Hungrybox in the process. He only lost to iBDW in winners finals 2-3 and grands 1-3. This tournament was historic either way because it marked Cody's first major win, and I find it kinda sad because this tournament feels kinda buried.
@SquattingxBear
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who the next character to win a big tourney will be?(Icies, Samus, Doc, or Ganon maybe?)
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
If I was to place my bets icies are defo at the top slug could do it if he dodges hbox
@SquattingxBear
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT Or maybe Slug does it by overcoming Hbox O.o; regardless I do hope that he isnt actually retired. Especially after being ranked 9th for 2022.
@cannyanemone5739
Жыл бұрын
Dk 🍌🙏
@MooMania4
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT i dont even think hbox is a too big of a problem. imo hbox is better at the shiek mu than the ics one and slug did bring him to game 5 last stock at lsi
@justinkim3760
Жыл бұрын
@@SquattingxBear probably not solo i think slug is making a fox for counterpicks
@eddiestilll
Жыл бұрын
jmook is such a legend :')
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
Trying to hit 3K Subs before the end of the month so if you haven't already sub and I will love u forever in a totally parasocial way Also in my flu hysteria writing this script I got a few things wrong - genesis 8 was in april not January - Amsa didnt win in 2021 it was 2022
@doublenikkel
Жыл бұрын
Hungrybox really is a single-character main's worst nightmare
@RichardBlaziken
Жыл бұрын
Even as someone that hasn't played Melee since about 2010, Melee is the most hype esport that exists. Nothing comes close to the legacy, the storylines, the constant developments for a game not receiving any patches or changes. It's so wonderful. Thanks for this video! :)
@natecallon9755
Жыл бұрын
Same, i dont play the game but i watch it almost every day.
@WolfPacLeader247
Жыл бұрын
Jmook's breakout Genesis happened in April, not January I think. Got delayed due to COVID.
@55cancrie58
Жыл бұрын
I woulda mentioned faceroll/Kirbykaze/amsah/shroomed but otherwise great vid! Love me some sheik content
@gamificationoflife
Жыл бұрын
Really digged the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music in the background, my favourite video game soundtrack of all time, love the Melee content too, the HungryBox video by Emplemon & Asumsaus are some of my fav Melee content, and I think you'll be right there with them, subbed
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the content as much as Chaler and us editors enjoy making it! - Delf the Editor
@LonnieK
Жыл бұрын
Why are there so many people writing off jmooks accomplishment or the validity of this video? Saying oh X player did well with Sheik, and they won so many tournaments. Like yes, in the case of Sheik as a character, she's seen a lot of success with the help of tagging out to another character in tougher matchups. This video is about SOLO Sheik (regardless of match-up) and how jmook made it happen. It's not that crazy of a concept to grasp, lol. Anyway, it's a melee history making moment for Jmook and an amazing video. Keep it up, dude.
@MetaKnight68
Жыл бұрын
"There was also this player who did really well and deserves a mention in the timeline of Sheik placements this video aims to cover" =/= "Jmook's run wasn't amazing or the greatest Sheik run of all time" "There's a minor factual inaccuracy in the video that doesn't completely invalidate the storyline; here's what actually happened" =/= "This video is poorly researched and therefore bad" This video is great, and Jmook is incredible. It's still worth documenting forgotten storylines and minor inaccuracies for posterity.
@Joel-hp4hh
Жыл бұрын
Great video format! Love the green screen and holding the mic haha!
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
Glad you're liking the new style brother! Prepare for more from Chaler and me.
@GinkgoPete
Жыл бұрын
Its crazy that the Shiek drought couldve drank alcohol in any civilized country
@vyor8837
Жыл бұрын
That was 6 years ago
@GinkgoPete
Жыл бұрын
@@vyor8837 I dont meant just beer or wine but the hard stuff
@FirePuff12
Жыл бұрын
Bro, amazing vid as always. AND you’re a Mangofan?? I’m sold
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
The reason I play Falco
@FirePuff12
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT The reason I play Puff 😅
@Flip-a-dip-dip
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you’re aware but a Long Island Ice tea doesn’t actually have any tea in it. Just alcohol and a splash of cola
@Flip-a-dip-dip
Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 I’m not sure if you’re trolling right now but you are super wrong. There’s definitely not just a splash of alcohol in it Lol. google it.
@oookam
Жыл бұрын
Character with no major win ( recent or at all ) but who have top 50 players . Link/aklo , Dr Mario/ Franz , samus/the swooper , ic's/ slug , Peach /Lloyd. Who will be the next ?
@yankees2864
Жыл бұрын
Saw this from the Reddit, amazing job! Earned my sub, keep it up!
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it as much as me and Chaler did making it! - Delf the Editor
@heldon7951
Жыл бұрын
PMD Explorers of Sky music at the end >>>
@snarfsnarf6
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite KZitem video genre, man talking into a microphone about a 20 year old video game
@pjgabbagoo7715
Жыл бұрын
As a long island resident, I can confirm that I don’t exist.
@rileybozeman3570
Жыл бұрын
Sheik will all ways be the queen of melee
@paul_particularlyunhappynut
Жыл бұрын
peach.
@MyNameIsLuna200
Жыл бұрын
whats the song during the montage?
@supermomeio
Жыл бұрын
True
@charlieguy2795
Жыл бұрын
😂 high quality jokes man. Very witty commentary. This channel won’t be small for me
@averagewhiteguy2
Жыл бұрын
Woot! Was looking forward to Sheik winning big one day. Nice video.
@Kevin-rw7kk
Жыл бұрын
Bro why did I recognize the song at 8:38 as from an old PS2 game I haven’t played in probably 13 years
@ToBadification
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Plup carried the sheik meta (post m2k/KDJ) and enabled Jmook to sit where he’s at today but it’s written off because he uses fox against puff. When Jmook has a 1-12 record against Hbox 🤷🏻♂️
@shiesterjr
Жыл бұрын
Weird take. What does that have to do with anything? why would someone achieving something be thwarted by the fact that someone was better before them? No one wrote off plup, it was the fact that plup wrote off shiek. It was important to note that plup won majors, but only by switching off of solo sheik, which was the point of this entire video.
@sossh1442
Жыл бұрын
Bro melee is 22 years old that’s nuts
@alexyoung2104
Жыл бұрын
Haychbox 🤣 good vid
@HemExists
Жыл бұрын
awesome video man, here's to 10k subs soon 🎉
@obsidianchao
Жыл бұрын
Long Island is like the suburbs for NYC - it’s a large chunk of land in the sound of water to the east of the city. The more you know!
@firescorpio5
Жыл бұрын
what a fucking good video keep it up 👍
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it brother - Chaler and Delf the Editor (me)
@charmanfer
Жыл бұрын
Did not know your channel but you got yourself a new sub. Amazing video
@AzureSkies58
Жыл бұрын
I'VE GOT TO KNOW THE MUSIC FOR JMOOKS GENESIS RUNS, THE FIRST ONE ESPECIALLY SOUNDS SO PMD of course i recognize dialgas fight to the finish at the end
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
Your nearly right its nemona's final battle music from scarlet and violet and thr first one is actually from yugioh capsule monster colleseum believe it's crimson Valley not 100% as not on my pc rn
@aqxbjc5879
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT what was that graphic at 9:57 ? you said Jmook was 1-9 against Hbox then showed a picture of Hbox with head 2 heads listing both Hbox 1-6 and Jmook 9-1. Who were those head to heads for?
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
@AQXBJC yeah I just decided to use footage for one of my old videos it's called the closest fight ever for melee number 1
@aqxbjc5879
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT ok, I just didn't understand what those other values were supposed to represent then
@Butterfree_hater
3 ай бұрын
I didn't know hbox threw 2 chairs lmfao
@MitchBison
Жыл бұрын
It is pretty crazy that solo Falcon and Yoshi won a super major before solo Sheik did; Wizzy and aMSa are insane grinders and punish game beasts. I honestly wanted leffen to beat hbox at Genesis 5 so that Plup could win that with solo Sheik, and once that didn't happen I was losing faith that it ever would happen since there were no solo Sheiks at the top 10 level. Thankfully Jmook graced us with his insane punish game on Fox and took down Genesis 9 (and Plup taking out hbox helped).
@judeduckworth2363
Жыл бұрын
commenting to keep your content on my home page
@lukasfinn6042
Жыл бұрын
Cool video! Ima play sheik now
@Violet_Knights
Жыл бұрын
THATS MY GOAT JMOOK
@Brando550
Жыл бұрын
i know someone already made this comment, but just to help with visibility, Ben is from Minnesota, not Wisconsin. edit: I made an attempt to edit the smash melee wiki and i need someone else to confirm if the change from Wisconsin to Minnesota worked or not.
@peanutbuttercracker1
Жыл бұрын
I regret to inform you that not only is Long Island real, but also Long Island Iced Tea isn't tea as you implied in the video - it's alcohol with absolutely no tea in it
@Agent7300
Жыл бұрын
i enjoy this content about the old video game i like and the people who play it
@shady8045
Жыл бұрын
3:18 could he have used randal in that instance?
@tnd_0
Жыл бұрын
awesome video!
@darlingj.canela
Жыл бұрын
To answer the question, that's cause Sheik isn't exactly an S tier maybe 🤔
@Eval999
Жыл бұрын
IMO without Mook tier RTC, Sheik-Fox is worse than Sheik-Puff
@TopOfAllWorlds
Жыл бұрын
I almost think Sheik winning vs Puff is more engaging than sheik getting a major win lmao
@outcrazy6570
Жыл бұрын
Goated content. Never stop
@wilfredfegelein8215
Жыл бұрын
I would've mentioned druggedfox tbh. Really optimized sheik popularizing tech chasing showing it was consistent
@Blu_color2901
Жыл бұрын
What’s the music used in Genesis 9 and Jmook?
@lucio8349
Жыл бұрын
very good video you got a new subscriber
@lukraniom8731
Жыл бұрын
9:57 lol hbox had a 1-6 record against hbox 😂
@TetraCrystal
Жыл бұрын
What's the last song of the video?
@MrKynzer
Жыл бұрын
Did you find it? I'm currently searching for it lol
@Stan-wg7vx
Жыл бұрын
If you play the video at 1.25x speed he actually talks like a real human
@mrlucius57
Жыл бұрын
Fun videomaking i have subscribed to the monthly mailing list
@mmmyummi6094
Жыл бұрын
Are there music credits?
@MrKynzer
Жыл бұрын
Did you find it?
@mangarino94
Жыл бұрын
I don't like that you included the dabber in the plup hbox genesis set. Makes light of a huge moment for plup and gives that dweeb attention
@mangarino94
Жыл бұрын
Great video regardless lol
@ariesomega2487
Жыл бұрын
Well most top tier shiek mains where just lazy in grinding other mu. And makes sense why waste time just to get the "solo win"
@TheGreatDanish
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the win at Genesis really just proves that the puff matchup *is* doom and gloom. The *one* tournament where a solo shiek doesn't run into a puff, and they take it all. I'm not super impressed, tbh. We all knew Shiek was a good character. That was never the question. It's just a matter of if someone can figure away to deal with puff well enough to actually win a major. We see a solo Shiek get past Hbox and *then* ill be impressed.
@firelifeblizzard8782
Жыл бұрын
Genesis 8 was in April not January
@JackCohoon
Жыл бұрын
WE LOVE YOU CHALER WE DO OOOOOOOH CHALER WE LOVE YOU!!
@jaspervermeer659
2 ай бұрын
What's the music at 4:35?
@OnlyTheAzure
Жыл бұрын
For some reason I thought this was about Marth
@captainfalconmain6576
Жыл бұрын
That’s because your new to melee
@OnlyTheAzure
Жыл бұрын
Damn, why does that sound so passive aggressive?
@sexswag
Жыл бұрын
10:46 music?
@nemezis_prime
Жыл бұрын
champion nemona battle music
@hc661
Жыл бұрын
thats melee baby
@griffinashley2890
Жыл бұрын
Amsah won Epita Smash Arena 2 with solo sheik
@xxximyxxximerton1671
Жыл бұрын
I mean wasn’t that a France tourney in 2008 I’m gunna assume most NA players didn’t go so it prob isn’t considered a major by people nowadays
@griffinashley2890
Жыл бұрын
@@xxximyxxximerton1671 third largest player count of any tournament at the time. Biggest EU tournament until BEAST 5. Prize pool comparable to any NA major. Amsah, Captain Jack, Armada and Masashi. Das a major in my book and many other's
@ApacheSmash
Жыл бұрын
Hello Chaler
@mistyleo
Жыл бұрын
10:51 song name?
@okolo22000
Жыл бұрын
Did Peach, Ice Climbers or Samus ever win majors?
@squirrelwithabanana
Жыл бұрын
Armada literally won 3 genesises in a row
@rittenhouse3892
Жыл бұрын
Good vid
@samsonturner3692
Жыл бұрын
put pele up top
@charlespoole2065
Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge hbox fan when it comes to melee mostly due to the fact that fox/puff should be practically unwinnable if the fox is playing to their max potential but I have to say, if knoll had chosen to play fox or even maybe marth he would be as dominant as armada, I think he’s the most skilled in the top 10 and plays almost tas level in most sets it’s just that sheik/ puff is almost as polarizing as fox/puff and if he had that same timing and execution on a character that has no bad matchups or only slightly bad matchups he would be unbeatable
@JT-ek4rx
Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with your opinion on the Fox/Puff matchup. People have been saying for forever if Fox plays optimal then Puff can't win, and that never happens. Because no one is ever max potential, especially at a high stakes tournament. All of the top players make mistakes. Plus, you can play against a Puff and get grabbed at 0% and rested can lose your stocks faster than anything, which happens a lot to even the best of them. Unless you're using Bowser, there's no point in framing the competitive experience as unwinnable. It takes away from when the good players win, like moky just played a lot better and is why he ended up beating Hbox at Genesis 9.
@LordFartamor
Жыл бұрын
@arod3295
Жыл бұрын
HASNT mewtwoking won a major? He’s a shiek main!
@Revcube
Жыл бұрын
Solo Shiek main is what it refers to. Plup won one to but secondaries Fox and Samus. M2k secondarying Marth and Fox.
@keylimecookies
Жыл бұрын
Only s tiers are fox an Marth but okayy
@legendredux1291
Жыл бұрын
Yoshi is 2022
@hannahbriarly4192
Жыл бұрын
S tier is disingenuous but I do love jmook
@n0lain
Жыл бұрын
You skipped over Drephen and KirbyKaze 😕 but great vid otherwise
@mlalbaitero
Жыл бұрын
Only cus wobblings banned
@narhwallord6985
Жыл бұрын
I'd argue melee is very balanced. 5 ( arguably more ) characters are top tier. In a roster of 30? Pretty damn good
@orangeflare2662
Жыл бұрын
Ben is from MN not wisconsin🙃
@Thewildmanrules
Жыл бұрын
is that another tea brand?
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
don't believe all you read on smash wiki I guess
@joemarin1456
Жыл бұрын
What about Plup winning Genesis 5 in 2018?
@Rhycebell
Жыл бұрын
he used fox.....
@chungboislim2061
Жыл бұрын
@@Rhycebell Plup: Uses Fox in 1 set Melee scene: Sheik can't win
@Rhycebell
Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 I mean a lot of people said she can, in that instance and within the context of the video. she didn't
@shiesterjr
Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 Plup: Dual mains so he can win jmook: first solo sheik to win a major also, you guys are beyond lost. he played fox the last 9 games in that tornament, you'd be absolutely braindead to think thats a shiek win.
@chungboislim2061
Жыл бұрын
@@shiesterjr Well it's even less of a Fox win.
@MANLETofPEACE
Жыл бұрын
No hbox in his way though
@redditrepo473
Жыл бұрын
7:39 Yoshi's major wins all came in 2022
@cv4126
Жыл бұрын
Music list?
@johnnoiom
Жыл бұрын
Good Egg Galaxy - Super Mario Galaxy Toad’s Factory - Mario Kart Wii Corneria- Star Fox (Smash Bros Ultimate Version) Thanks! - Delf the Editor
@cv4126
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnoiom What's the song that starts at 5:43?
@BlueLass53
Жыл бұрын
im looking for the song at the outro
@MrKynzer
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnoiomany idea of the song of the outro perhaps?
@MrKynzer
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueLass53did you find it?
@m2dauffin2
Жыл бұрын
What language is he speaking
@meemameemer5015
Жыл бұрын
Actually Genesis 8 was in April, not January
@ChalerYT
Жыл бұрын
AHHH you are so right god damn it how didnt i catch that
@chungboislim2061
Жыл бұрын
@@ChalerYT cause your low quality, low effort video sucks
@frankotheape7289
Жыл бұрын
Hold on, melee is balanced. Maybe melee’s character aren’t that balanced but the game is definitely incredibly balanced.
@compromisedssh
Жыл бұрын
All the people acting like a sheik just won a supermajor for the first time are expecting us to pretend like plup didn’t already do this, right? Cool. I’ll play along.
@sinfinite7516
Жыл бұрын
Bruh SOLO SHEIK, Plup uses Fox dual main
@compromisedssh
Жыл бұрын
@@sinfinite7516 very silly technicality lol. I was fully aware that Plup has a secondary fox and Samus when I left my comment. Everyone thinks of him as a sheik player though.
@shiesterjr
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? It covers the fact that plup lost over and over because he couldn't beat hbox, so he had to stop solo maining shiek to win majors.
@UncleKoolaids
Жыл бұрын
@@compromisedssh ok that's literally the point. Sheik/fox won a major not just sheik lmao insane to be this obtuse
@simanolastname2399
Жыл бұрын
And the most obtuse comment of all time goes to...
@Gabriel64468
Жыл бұрын
There aren't 5 S-tiers. S-tier is for characters that absolutely transcend everything else. Just put the Top 5 into A tier (A+ if you really want to) or split them up to create a smaller S tier.
@chungboislim2061
Жыл бұрын
Such clickbait nonsense. M2K has soooo many major wins and Plup does too. It's like saying Peach never won because Armada had a Young Link/Fox. Or Falco never won because PPMD used Marth and Mango used Fox/Puff/Falcon/Mario.
@meemameemer5015
Жыл бұрын
He's talking about SOLO sheik mains winning a major as in they didn't use any other character in the tournament before.
@danielsmith5032
Жыл бұрын
Bad take. He’s talking about solo sheik. I was thinking Plup as well but he used fox for some matchups in his major win
@chungboislim2061
Жыл бұрын
@@danielsmith5032 Well my response got deleted for some reason. But I guess I can try again. Obviously I know he's talking about solo Sheik wins. That is apparent from the analogies I gave. It's just misleading because Sheik has had more success than almost any other character in the game's history. Why do we not count all the times M2K and Plup won just because they played another character in sometimes only 1 other set. It's just a silly video hyping up something that isn't noteworthy.
@mehgamer467
Жыл бұрын
@@chungboislim2061 no one even is discrediting m2k and plup here except you. Or sheiks success. You are going off on another tangent when this video very clearly is focused on one thing. You are making a bigger deal out of it. They just couldn't do what jmook did. Maybe got close, but no matter what they couldn't get to this point. That doesn't change anything that was said in the video. This is fact.
@hitmangfx7162
Жыл бұрын
Yay, masks and pronouns are all it took to get Sheik over the top. Maybe face shields will help Ganondorf. 👎
@FukU2222
Жыл бұрын
yo, they putting pronouns beneath player's names now? daphuq? So cringe..... pce
@thebristolbruiser
Жыл бұрын
This is a party game for children. Why are you taking it so seriously?
@kikewickens6324
Жыл бұрын
Common Melee gargantuan W.
@KevinHernandez-xd3ch
Жыл бұрын
Zain will never be the goat
@rannynihilius8481
Жыл бұрын
If Melee lives another 4 years and he keeps this dominance while mang0 and Hbox slowly fall off he will just be the goat at a point. Y'all forgot about Armada being the undisputed best after about 3 years because mang0 kept playing.
@YoureAMitch
Жыл бұрын
Brooklyn and queens "am I a joke to you" lmao (yes I know its not long island but they are located on long island)
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