What made Tywin great to me was that he never really felt like a villain half the time, he was just such a responsible and cunning character, it was hard not to respect him.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
Жыл бұрын
It's like what Olenna said to Cersei: "I didn't trust your father. I didn't particularly like him. But i respected him. He was no fool."
@godemperorofmankind3.091
Жыл бұрын
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296 plenty of what tywin did was foolish, and got him killed in the end.
@frname7665
Жыл бұрын
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 No, not plenty. Just his untamed resent against Tyrion was his undoing
@godemperorofmankind3.091
Жыл бұрын
@@frname7665 i would argue the Sack and Red Wedding, while they seemed good ideas at the time, were stupid
@frname7665
Жыл бұрын
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 The Red Wedding worked out exactly as he intended, it was far from stupid. The sack got the Lannisters in the royal household through marriage, it was horrible but not stupid at all.
@retro.raider
Жыл бұрын
Loved his line “how is it more honorable killing thousands of men at battle than a dozen at dinner”
@claymusicoff5663
Жыл бұрын
How is it more honorable to say a thousand men in BATTLE then it is to r*** a child?? You see why despite the other technically causing less harm… a man fighting other men on equal footing and killing them is much more honorable then murdering them at a table
@C-handle-r
Жыл бұрын
In Charles' voice ... 👀😍
@gryphonbotha1880
Жыл бұрын
Of course, this ignores that those thousands of soldiers were killed anyways while they were partying outside the Twins, thinking they were with friends.
@seliussanctus3100
Жыл бұрын
@@gryphonbotha1880Has Robb's whole army slept near the twins? I think those soldiers were escorting Robb and the most important people for the wedding.
@DS3Enjoyer
Жыл бұрын
Because it was an underhanded tactic
@videt7459
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance and Peter Dinklage are basically the two best 'face actors' alive, so watching them together is an overload of joy at the apex of the craft.
@barnabusdoyle4930
Жыл бұрын
While that’s true, they also need a script worthy of their talent. Writers nowadays would not be able to do half of what the early seasons of GoTs did. Dance and Dinklage elevated great work in the same way that Patrick Stewart took great writing in TNG and elevated it to legendary status. There aren’t many actors who can enhance writing the way these 3 can. I will say that Matt Smith did pretty damn well in both Dr Who and HoD, but I don’t think it got to their levels.
@veggiesnake4430
4 ай бұрын
@@barnabusdoyle4930 Nah, don't start on the "kids these days" thing. Early GoT had top-tier dialogue, but that's not something ONLY GoT can do.
@barnabusdoyle4930
4 ай бұрын
@@veggiesnake4430 The ratio of great dialogue to garbage dialogue we have gotten in movies and tv shows in the past decade has moved heavily to the garbage side. You have to admit that this statement is true.
@veggiesnake4430
4 ай бұрын
@@barnabusdoyle4930 It is true. But I don't think it's because "writers these days" are bad writers, I think it's because the TV and Film industries are overinflated. Good dialogue doesn't maximise short-term profit, so the executives at Netflix, and Prime, and every other streaming service/production company (because somehow the distributors have usurped the producers, and these two very different things have become the same) don't care about good dialogue. Now everything gets made for profit, and only the things that prove profitable get renewed, so anything that isn't easily consumed by the largest possible target audience gets pushed aside. Not to mention the growing exploitation of writers that has only recently been challenged. The good dialogue is still in there, somewhere. But it's drowned out by an ocean of cheap and lazy _content_ that's been substituted for cinema.
@PrinceIsot
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance is one of the greatest character actors ever. And he's certainly one of the best of our time.
@peezyorpj
Жыл бұрын
I always appreciated how Tywin used his brutality as a tool of necessity rather than for his own sick enjoyment like Ramsay or Joffrey.
@patrickmonahan5272
Жыл бұрын
What about when he had a innocent woman sexually assaulted for a perceived insult on his pride?
@Alejojojo6
Жыл бұрын
He wasnt super brutal, he knew brutality had to be used which is different. We see that he isnt when he goes to Harrenhal and get mad that they are torturing and killing people instead of having them put to a better more productive use instead (saving them).
@peezyorpj
Жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 Facts
@patrickmonahan5272
Жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 he had a woman gang raped because he perceived her marrying Tyrion in secret a assault to his pride
@meoff7602
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmonahan5272Even that was done with the idea of using it as a tool to punish his son. Not, because it hurt his pride. Your using his son's prospective to describe that event.
@shreyanshsharma2722
Жыл бұрын
Tywin might be the only "villain" in a story for which I was sad when he died, he was such a great character, GRRM's writing and Charles's acting (especially his voice) made him so iconic. I hated him but I also understood him, but I'm also happy that he died before D&D ran out of books and were able to ruin his character like they did with Tyrion and all the others.
@PumpkinHoard
Жыл бұрын
Tywins death marked the end for Game of Thrones. That was the peak, it was all rapidly downhill from there.
@metallol5337
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this before, but D&D didn’t run out of books for s5. They probably could’ve made s5-7 as adapted out of what was left, but instead they rushed it all into the 5th season and making a lot of stuff up. Their ego was their downfall.
@Grivehn
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Tywin encapsulates a classic, regular medieval noble the most. They were only caring about the family, keeping power and keeping up appaerances. He is pretty much what was going on in Europe x10 for over a thousand years. And in the timeframe of these ages, there was nothing wrong with this mindset at all. (Between nobles, of course.) His actor and character was amongst the best, if not the best in the entire show. The show, alongside pretty much all of its nuance and intelligence, also died with him. Enough said.
@LucLB01
Жыл бұрын
They never ran out of books. They were just two egocentric morons who thought they could do it better than the man himself and decided to pick loose plot points from books 4 and 5, cram them into season 5, reuse some of it in season 6, and make the rest up. Which resulted in season 5 & 6 being very inconsistent, and 7 & 8 being total garbage.
@sheep2826
Жыл бұрын
For what it’s worth, the scenes between him and Arya were written by D&D, and weren’t in the books. A lot of people didn’t like the later seasons but people forget that they were still competent writers and were just responsible for some of the show’s greatest scenes as some of its worst.
@forrestredd2706
8 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about Tywin is Charles Dance's performance, but also, how he is written as "being busy" in almost every scene he is in. Talking to Jaime? Skinning a Buck. Talking to Cersei? Writing a letter. Head of the army. Hand of the King. Always in meetings. He is always shown as having his mind on something else other than the conversation he is having. Even in his death scene, he is trying to take a doody, and can't even do that in peace.
@jasonvazquez8652
Жыл бұрын
I honestly wish that we'd gotten an interaction between Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister. That conversation would've had me at the edge of my seat.
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
tywin is out of his league he is way too sharp for ned ,ned who let's face it was one of the most naive charachter , tywin would have easily manipulated him and used him as a pawn like all the other lords who bend down to tywin
@jasonvazquez8652
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 You tend to forget that Ned knew Tywin well, and would NOT have been intimidated by him in the slightest. In fact, it's even said at one point in one of the books that Tywin was hesitant to war with Ned.
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonvazquez8652 i've read the book and there is no mention of this sort , you are obviously bias because u like ned since he's presented as the main guy or hero , and you saying that ned knew tywin well ) these are just assumptions from u , we rely on verifiable facts here and the fact is that litllefinger (a less clever version of tywin ) fu*** up ned and his entire family and made it look outrageously easy , if it was tywin instead of littlefinger ,NED would have been even more doomed than ever 😏
@jasonvazquez8652
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 In the book, Ned saw right through Tywin;s plan. Send the Mountain to ravage the Riverlands under no banner, which would trick Edmure into attacking the Westerlands. If that happened, Tywin could say that the Tully's broke the peace instead of him. Ned figured out Tywin's plan and these were his exact thought's, "Thank the gods for Hoster Tully". Oh and also, in ACOK, when discussing the rebellion with Tyrion, Tywin outright says that he wanted too reach the capital before Ned did, otherwise it would've come to swords had they met on the road.
@spartangreg1
11 ай бұрын
@@jasonvazquez8652Thank you for clearing this up. He said you're biased and likes Ned when he's obviously biased and likes Tywin. It's stayed in the lore that Ned knew Tywin's plans and motivations and saw through them but didn't understand the larger game at whole. Just like people think he'd automatically lose in a fight with Jaime, who's one of the best fighters in history, but Ned became a better fighter after the ToJ, but gets downplayed too much. Tywin is one of my favorite characters and so is Ned, but Ned gets disrespected too much because he was honorable and wanted to follow the laws of men. Be saw men are corruptible and if left unchecked would and could ruin the realm. Basically like Kanye said, "No one man should have all that power"
@lane5686
Жыл бұрын
Tywin was a villain to the audience but a hero to/for his family. When he was Hand under Aerys, the realm was at peace and prospered for 20+ years.
@fightingmedialounge519
Жыл бұрын
Depends on the family member.
@sanjaykarthicks1226
Жыл бұрын
Tywin also almost broke down when Cersei blackmailed him that she would reveal that her children are truly bastards. He didn't see that coming.
@DvornyashkaDiaries
Жыл бұрын
I think that was one of reasons he later used Tyrion to strongarm Jaime. Cersei and her mouth have put their relationships with Jaime at risk. If not for Tyrion's pride, she might have ended up loosing him forever. She is so reckless.
@TyLeeEnjoyer
Жыл бұрын
I don't think his actions in the Riverlands can be waivered like that "because it is war time". He deliberately sent his most vicious first like Gregor Clegane and the Brave Companions, who went on campaigns of rape, pillage, destruction -- if not genocide -- throughout the Riverlands during the War of the Five Kings. Tywin knew exactly who he was sending (he knew Clegane for decades at that point). His campaign there ravaged the whole region and caused death and suffering on an unprecedented scale, which triggered indirectly many of the events in Feast. This was not inevitable-- Rob, for example, never went down to that level (though Roose did). To say that Tywin didn't "go out of his way to cause harm" simply isn't true. Among the noble lords, Tywin was notorious for using excessive violence to crack down on any perceived slight to his house, which started with his extermination of Castamere.
@playz8538
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This dude just rambling most of what this video says is just not exactly true.
@TheNewPrometheus
Жыл бұрын
Tywin was never unnecessarily cruel (by ASOIAF standards) in his actions against the smallfolk (his treatment of Tyrion however was extremely cruel) but he also understood where power lies and how to handle over mighty vassals and lords and that they are where problems arise not from the smallfolk and that those lords along with their money and fighting men must be swiftly and decisively brought to heel for the good of the realm and those very smallfolk. When it came to ruling and keeping things more or less stable Tywin was a pretty reasonable leader. Horrible father, terrible person...but a pretty decent Hand for the most part. It's never black and white which is why I see Tywin as a pretty good representation of most politicians/PM/PotUS or people in power
@karimabidi8312
Жыл бұрын
@@TheNewPrometheushe was cruel for the normal people in the riverlands. There is no number for all the cruelties happening there because of the lennisters
@karimabidi8312
Жыл бұрын
I must say I really like Robb, but I think he could have learned some stuff from Roose Bolton. He shouldn't be cruel to the normal people, Roose really did horrible things, but you have to FIGHT against your enemies and you have to punish those who fight against you. Roose and his people torturing lennister commanders or killing whole garnisons make sense in a war, what he did with the normal working people in harrenhall was extreme
@TheNewPrometheus
Жыл бұрын
@@karimabidi8312 ok sure except time and time again in Westerosi history the Riverlands are always the worst to be hit, no matter who the lord is. We get clear examples that the Lannisters aren't the only ones committing atrocities against the smallfolk (i.e. the hanged tavern wenches that "laid with Lions"). It also seemed that Tywin did not necessarily approve of what Clegane nor the Brave Companions did. He understood what they were capable of and just like the Targaryens and their Dragons the idea that he could control the Dogs of House Clegane was just that- an idea, an illusion. Tywin was EXTREMELY flawed and despicable but to put the razing of the Riverlands soley on Tywin just seems very naive. If Catelyn hadnt taken Tyrion (the son of the man The Rains of Castamere was written about, someone who everyone knows wiped out multiple ancient houses) captive for literally nothing, it might have never even happened.
@matthieuzglurg6015
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance is also a wonderful voice actor. His short performance as Emhyr in The Witcher 3 is memorable
@brooke5258
Жыл бұрын
He also narrates the animal documentary Savage Kingdom. And he says "dynasty" exactly the same.
@shadowking9739
Жыл бұрын
I LOVED Charles Dance's portrayal of Tywin. He felt like the perfect embodiment of lawful evil; he acted as though he was this lone vanguard of the realm that kept it from falling into chaos and ruin and we, as the audience, sided with him based on all of the evidence pointing to this fact. I think his scenes with Tyrion were also brilliant because, going off of his tone and body language, you got the sense that deep down, past his hatred of the Imp, he saw Tyrion as the child that was the most like him and this clearly pissed him off to no end. In fact, I dare say he respected Tyrion to some degree but saw him as squandering his talents and ruining the Lannister name. If Tyrion had Jaime's good looks, "normal proportions" and charisma, as well as lacking a propensity for wine and whores, then he probably would've been Tywin's favorite.
@randysavage1011
Жыл бұрын
I also think his wife’s death giving birth to Tyrion caused an unshakable rift and spite in whatever relationship could have been.
@cashthecurator666
Жыл бұрын
If Joana hadn’t died giving birth to Tyrion, he would have been Tywin’s pride and joy. But the whoring and drinking would probably still annoy him. In an alternate universe where Joana didn’t die in childbirth, I can imagine Tywin saying to Cersei and Jaime, “Why can’t you be more like Tyrion?”
@shadowking9739
Жыл бұрын
@@cashthecurator666 Oh my, what a universe that would've been!
@shadowking9739
Жыл бұрын
@@randysavage1011 True. If Joana had lived and Tyrion was born normal, then he could've been the Lion of Casterly Rock and the apple of his father's eye.
@wingsoftwitchbots5613
Жыл бұрын
Tywin did say that he respected/admired Tyrion for his will to survive.
@JGr2000
Жыл бұрын
I love that we didn’t have to see a decline of his character since he died at the end of season 4
@alexiavya722
Жыл бұрын
it’s kinda crazy how the show really only uplifted 2 villains from the books imo. Tywin and Joffrey, which makes sense since they are the main antagonists of Rob Stark and are the reasons for the Red Wedding. Great representation of what it means to adapt a story from one medium to another. Post SoS is done better in the books because George understood what was important for the story and what could be skipped. The show did not :(
@MyCarnageExtreme
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Is crazy how the show elevated characters like Joffrey, Tywin, even Robb.
@View619
Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if Tywin loved and accepted Tyrion, who's basically his mirror image politically? The show probably would have been over after Season 1.
@THI5GUYY
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Tywin MADE Game of Thrones for me. I can’t tell you how many times I rewound Tywins scenes because of how amazing Charles Dances performance was…an absolute…no holds bar…masterpiece….just a masterpiece by Dance
@lateam9786
Жыл бұрын
All his children have aspects of him too which makes it interesting. Cersi has his manipulation, Jamie is the Knight, and Tyrion has his wit and intelligence. Funny how his children drive him crazier than anyone else in the show.
@treali
Жыл бұрын
I would say Cersei has his cruelty, Jamie his charm, and Tyrion his wits and intelligence. While Cersei did a lot of manipulation it was always that resembling of an immature child with no regard for long-term consequences. Most of her manipulation comes back to bite her.
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
@@treali not cruelty , more like ruthlesness ( CRUELTY is when you do a horrible thing to someone for no reason ( RUTHLESNESS is when you do a horrible to someone as a response to something wrong he did
@arclight7892
6 ай бұрын
Cersei is not good at manipulating. She couldn't even manipulate an idiot like joffrey. She always had help from expert manipulators like Tywin and Baelish.
@Ballin4Vengeance
2 ай бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860which is not being ruthless either. That’s vengefulness. To be ruthless is to act without compassion or regret of your own vile actions. To have full knowledge of the harm you will cause, yet still doing so. Cruel is similiar.
@jaimenazaryan860
2 ай бұрын
@@Ballin4Vengeance no. You Can also be ruthless with people who want you harm but still didn't manage to do it , would you call it vengefulness if the ennemy didn't manage to do anything to you ? No and Cersei was doing things even to people who didn't harm her yet but were trying to , so the right word IS ruthless 😉
@dreamday988
Жыл бұрын
Because you had to have respect for the man at all times. Like daymn, even in the books he is just commanding the whole room, not giving a single flying feck, and when you know his background its even better. He was a gift of a character and I believe that maybe charles dance gave him that charm because Tywin in the books doesn’t have that much presence. It was just…brilliant 🙏🏻
@MrGreenJester
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you make a video of your favorite GoT actors. I imagine Charles Dance would be near if not at the very top
@purpleheadedhedgehog3821
Жыл бұрын
It’s always a delight when super cuts uploads , also a video on daddy Tywin is the cherry on top Also I don’t think Tywin is a bad guy or at least Trys ti be , but he’s been around and he knows how the world works and he does the clever things that keep him and his family safe , until he didn’t
@lorabriggs935
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these videos still, GoT will always be a big thing in my life and videos like this keep that going x
@ArtKO171
Жыл бұрын
The series began to fall apart after his death. He was my favorite character. There has never been such an intelligent, charismatic and complex antagonist after him. Thank you for your video, you said it all!
@jarmoliebrand2005
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance’s voice is so riveting to listen to. I would eagerly listen to him reading a manual out loud. There are only a few other people I that would have the same effect (probably David Attenborough, Christopher Lee and James Earl Jones).
@marion817
3 ай бұрын
Tywin has so many memorable scenes that are so simple/understated yet show so much of his real character. To name a few: his Arya scenes in Harrenhall and his conversation with Joffrey in the throne room. Such a well written character which was played to perfection by Charles Dance. GOT's true essence really died when he died.
@jimbob4447
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance is always poggers in whatever role he's playing.
@junkyarddweller
Жыл бұрын
The amount of people who don't understand that tywin IS A VILLAIN is fucking mind-blowing.
@rustyshackelford4224
Жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@doctoralla2067
Жыл бұрын
Hey Supercuts, you're one of my favorite youtubers of all time. You really opened my eyes on how flawed Game of Thrones was after season 4. I legitimately didn't mind the ending the first time I watched it. I was a lesser mortal back then who just enjoyed spectacle. Keep up the awesome work.
@StueyPie
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance and Tywin is the pinnacle of Game of Thrones. If you stop watching when he dies, it's right at the top of the best television series of all time.
@maidenofiron
Жыл бұрын
Tywin, book and show, has always been one of my favorite characters. I may prefer the books more but Charles Dance was perfect for the role.
@Mammel248
Жыл бұрын
The only performance of Charles Dance that was off was imo after he sent Joffrey to bed without his supper ;) in the books Tywin walks to the window to turn his face away from Tyrion, and Tyrion thinks this is because he doesn't want to show how shaken he is by Joffrey's actions. Because Joffrey's actions show that he is completely incapable as a ruler and that his dream of a 1000 year old Lannister dynasty is falling apart. In the show you don't see any of that, while Tywin freaking out a little after witnessing just how twisted Joffrey is would be completely in-character.
@skelet8663
Жыл бұрын
The Witcher score👌🏼
@shanek3453
3 ай бұрын
Charles Dance was the main reason why Tywin was my favorite character
@freddyacuna8829
Жыл бұрын
GoT died with him
@MrWest-ph5yg
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it did.
@RandomNorwegianGuy.
6 ай бұрын
Twyin and Joffery are both my favorite villains in the show, for two completly different reasons. The actors for these two characters does their roles perfectly
@PowerHubShorts
Жыл бұрын
The Witcher 3 music is fantastic
@NovaLena22
Жыл бұрын
Arya had plenty of space to kill Tywin once Jaquen the Death Genie came on the scene and offered her three deaths. Arya already had a list of people she wanted dead. She could've easily given him Tywin's name (and perhaps prevented the Red Wedding)... but she didn't. She didn't even offer up Cersei and Joffrey, who were long on her list.
@lorabriggs935
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine if she had of given those 3 names how it would have totally changed things x
@chromicm6686
Жыл бұрын
@@lorabriggs935Given Tywin is heavily based on Edward Longshanks, I would not be suprised if much like in the real life example, the assaination failed The faceless man slips into his chambers at night, only for Tywin to strangle the man to death while in his own bed.
@treali
Жыл бұрын
@@chromicm6686 I assume you're trolling, but yeah the faceless men simply cannot fail, that's why they are so insanely expensive that basically no one can afford them and depending on the target it can take years to accomplish. Heck, there are even rumors of them being the cause of the Doom of Valyria.
@chromicm6686
Жыл бұрын
@@treali If the faceless men never fail then how come Arya gets out of them scott free? As long as you kill the assasin apparently you are in the clear. If any lord of westeros were cabable of choking out a faceless man it's be Tywin or Stanis
@TataMataAkrobata
3 ай бұрын
@@chromicm6686 how come she escapes? Because that part wasnt written by George. Dont take anything after season 4 as logical lore.
@nickbrown638
Жыл бұрын
My favorite part specific to the books is the final line in the paragraph that details Tywins demise. “He did not in fact, shit gold.” (may be paraphrasing)
@IAmDaldondo
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see a video analysis on more characters like Robb, Jon or even Alister Thorne
@jurajhrico6236
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you put Witcher music into your GoT videos, it fits so well, and it combines my favorite game with my favorite show. Very good job.
@dkb138
3 ай бұрын
I rewatched seasons 1-4, and I noticed a great subtle point in Charles Dance's performance that makes it seems like GRRM or someone told him from the beginning (like JKR did with Alan Rickman) that Tyrion is actually a bastard of the Mad King but Tywin can't ever admit this or denounce him because it would make him appear a weak cuck. Tywin's own pride in his name and house outweighs all, so he has to constantly call Tyrion his son but you can see how much that burns him inside. Plus Tyrion killed Joanna, which makes it so much more painful. You can just feel the rage and disdain he's trying to suppress in Dance's performance. So fucking good.
@Hexiad
Жыл бұрын
My personal favorite was always Roose Bolton and House Bolton. I love everything about them, whether in the books or the show (where Michael McElhatton played Roose ice cold and perfect). I like the idea of a Dark North ruled by dark people.
@Mr_Faptiful
Жыл бұрын
Tywin is a perfect example of Machiavellism
@CharmagnCody-mw6zr
2 ай бұрын
He did such an incredible job portraying this character! It would have been so cool for him to be able to find out, at some point, that he was conversing with Arya Stark. Not in a way so that he could hurt her, but just in a way so that he knew who he was talking with and how he reacts to that would have been super interesting to see
@inFamousguy101
Жыл бұрын
Man why do you need to remind us how good this show was?! Just let us forget it happened
@whittenaw
Жыл бұрын
Three words: cunning, ruthless, compelling
@thedragondemands5186
Жыл бұрын
good to see you back, ser
@pathendlem
4 ай бұрын
Tywin is my favorite character in all of GOT and I can attribute that to Charles dances performance
@TotalTech2.
Жыл бұрын
Do you know what made Tywin absolutely *TERRIFYING* For as evil as Tywin was he set up a system where his successor (Joffery) was even worse than him and the ruler after that (Cersei) was even worse than Jofferey. Once he died in the books things started going south real fast. Tywin is terrifying because for as bad as he is the world is a better place with him in it and because of that you need to serve him.
@rustyshackelford4224
Жыл бұрын
Scary
@ashleydavall
Жыл бұрын
From an acting stand point, some of the best characters in Game of Thrones are played by actors who have incredibly expressive eyes, often large eyes in relation to their face. This allows a lot of subtly and subtext to be delivered without dialogue. All actors learn to emote with their eyes, but some are more naturally gifted than others. Charles Dance, Lena Heady, Emilia Clarke, Gwendoline Christie, Maisie Smith, Peter Dinklage, Diana Rigg, Natalie Dormer, Jack Gleeson etc, all have large eyes, often piercing ones, that express far more than any other facial feature or expression.
@ajvela4310
Жыл бұрын
I find it so interesting that in thebooks tywins feats are more complicated like the books normally are. But even the book narrator and vibe of tywin isn’t even close to the god like performance charlie’s gives even with the plot more thinned.charles portrayal is better than anything george could have hoped for. Love tywin second favorite character. First is jamie.
@seen921
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for pointing out that Tywin thinks he's a good guy with good intentions. All well written villains believe they're doing the right thing. Nothing worse than bad guys/girls who rub their hands together in glee to the point of absurdity. And Tywin is my favorite character on GOT. So disappointed when he was killed offf.
@godemperorofmankind3.091
Жыл бұрын
well there is some things that i think are pure spite, like his treatment of tyrion and banging his son's girlfriend.
@seen921
Жыл бұрын
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Agree.. which falls under the bad for bad’s sake category His motivations are justified
@whensomethingcriesagain
8 ай бұрын
"Nothing is worse than bad guys/girls who rub their hands together in glee to the point of absurdity" We live in a world in which Dio Brando exists, your argument is invalid
@seen921
8 ай бұрын
@@whensomethingcriesagain odd response...
@whensomethingcriesagain
8 ай бұрын
@@seen921 It's a counter-example
@CFBDeepDives
7 ай бұрын
Definitely the GOAT. From the moment he made his first appearance on screen in season 1 to when Tyrion killed him, you knew he was the true ruler of Westeros.
@andrewward5891
7 ай бұрын
For 20 years as the Mad King’s hand Tywin effectively did rule Westeros (and ruled it well). The mad king even pulls out the tongue of one of Tywin’s men who says that truth.
@Corlwow
Жыл бұрын
The amazing thing is the arya tywin scenes aren’t even in the books but they are written so well! What the f happened!!!
@annemayers8761
Жыл бұрын
I really really love the idea of his character, and Charles Dances performance makes Tywin very easy to love. If looked under right perspective his actions indeed are smart and cunning and not-as-cruel-as-their-look cause you know, it's game of thrones, kill or be killed. All I need to do to love show-Tywin is to pretend that his sleepover with Shae didn't exist. The potential that his character holds is also a point for him - imagine how unstoppable house Lannister would be if he was capable to unite his children under his cause, or if Joanna was alive and there to guide him to be a better man. Though all of this only applies to the show (and not the books) - where whole Tysha storyline is cut off, and we do not have the insight into his children heads where they build him up as some godly-like figure, when in fact he is does many things out of insecurities and pure cruelty that serves no purpose. Not to mention that all his "work" for the promotion of his house went nowhere as it only held while he was alive and went away with his death, making all his actions really useless and takes away whatever justification for his actions that ever was there. I can hardly believe that D&D managed to make Tywin into such great and loveable character with the type of character that he is in the books.
@Galvatronover
Жыл бұрын
What he did was also kinda in vain do to Tyrion being the only one left alive the one he hated the most
@BenjaminHuangpianist
Ай бұрын
Tywin is the only character I can think of that still went out like a boss even when dying in such a humiliating fashion.
@khfan4life365
8 ай бұрын
Charles Dance has such presence as Tywin. He doesn’t even need to say anything to be intimidating.
@DvornyashkaDiaries
Жыл бұрын
What I like even more about Tywin is how he is the perfect representation of motivations of those in power during Feudal society. Family name, dynasty were the only things that mattered. Everything else was second to it. Though, I believe given more time and more stable times. Tywin would've either himself modernised Seven Kingdoms into empire crushing remains of feudal society. Or raised a future emperor.
@joeroscoe10117
Жыл бұрын
"...like screwing over Rob Stark at the Red Wedding." That's one way to put it.
@jankruger7551
Жыл бұрын
The tension in Tywins deathscene is so high it is as if a crossbow was loaded
@singstreetcar5881
20 күн бұрын
His scenes with lady olenna were pure gold
@Eldon_is_The_Best
Жыл бұрын
Tywin was my favorite character. Patient, calculating, hyper intelligent, and ruthless. His only flaw (which led to his death) was his hatred for Tyrion.
@jasoxn
Жыл бұрын
You should do a iceberg vid for GOT, that would be 🔥
@shadowlazers
10 ай бұрын
Time Warner is such a badass I would love to have seen a conversation between him and the obnoxious Sparrow
@chaosiscoming9184
Жыл бұрын
I wish season 7 and 8 were as great as the first 6 season :( I could forgive them if the Final Ever episode wasn't the worst thing ever! Bran... Still to this day I can't get over that Bran sits on the throne X'''D Season 8 is the WORST writing I ever seen
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
as some maester said in the book (LORD TYWIN was the uncrowned KING of the 7 kingdoms ) couldn't be more true
@TheFaulkned
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. Reading got I didn't think much of Tywin. But Dance's performance remade him in my mind. He was more sympathetic and much more intimidating. I ended up loving him even though his best scenes are with Aryia.and those belonged to Roose Bolton.
@ahmadrahimkhan
Жыл бұрын
He was not a villian, He was just ahead of his enemies who won’t take half measures protecting his family- and was a brilliant tactician
@whensomethingcriesagain
8 ай бұрын
Well his treatment of Tyrion might make him a villain on its own all things considered, especially since his downfall came from his complete inability to not be relentlessly cruel to Tyrion for 5 seconds even with a crossbow pointed in his face.
@Jeremy-td1jq
Жыл бұрын
I haven´t watched yet, but i know you are right.
@mpk4712
2 ай бұрын
I think one great thing the series did, to show Tywins power, was when i rode with his Horse into the Hall in the red keep, and his horse ist just shitting onto the floor.
@bolavyanal8366
11 күн бұрын
bro sneaked Vagabond theme there, now im crying, thanks
@funsea4167
Жыл бұрын
I loved Tywin and I loved his emphasized importance and Charles Dance’s performance in the series. He made that character.
@hitmantwovictors
5 ай бұрын
love the Vizima theme playing in the background hinting at Charles Dance playing Emhyr var Emris
@Mikerich_94
2 ай бұрын
Good point about Cersei using the same letter tactic with olenna
@chaosiscoming9184
Жыл бұрын
First from England!
@thatiowan3581
Жыл бұрын
Your mom was my first from England!
@kristamasucci5430
7 ай бұрын
I adore the scene between him and Arya too!
@MP-ji1jo
Жыл бұрын
I’d like videos about the second (which I hope to be little finger) and third place
@hankpikuni7024
7 ай бұрын
"A Trump never pays his debts."
@everettparker1313
Жыл бұрын
I Honestly Agree with you. Tywin Lanister is My All Time Favorite Antagonist’s in Game of Thrones and My All Time Favorite Role for Charles Dance.
@moses9647
3 ай бұрын
I think this video is what makes Tywin so compelling. It seems the takeaway drawn was Tywin was a guy who just wants to look out for his family and the realm by any means necessary. But this ignores the fact that his real goal is to have his family on the throne by any means necessary. He didnt reluctantly orchestrate the Red Wedding or think of lives saved. He did so to win the war and continue exerting the Lannister influence. He doesnt actually care about his kids or the welfare of the realm. He just wants a Lannister on the throne and has the cunning and ruthlessness to actually make it happen. Charles dance's performance tricks a lot of people into thinking Tywin is an honorable guy, he really isn't
@SavageSamxV
8 ай бұрын
What I like too is that he also doesn’t believe that his grandchildren are bastards for a long time so in his mind his family didn’t usurp the throne from the Baratheons
@cmd31220
Жыл бұрын
Tywin is the ultimate version of a Machiavellian villain. He's not evil, and his goal at the wnd of the day is a peacful, stable, and prosperous Westeros. He's just the physical embodiment of "in order to be a good king, first one must BE a king"
@LT_ZephyruS
Жыл бұрын
I high key would love to see you do a deep dive on Skyrim lore 🙌🏼
@Littleyonder
Жыл бұрын
Tywin Lannister was the spine and mind of House Lannister. Without him, they were barely even a noble family.
@truegrit1229
Жыл бұрын
Tywin wasn’t a Villain. Anyone who thinks so lost the big picture. The conflict between him and the Starks, was because of little finger. Tywin was simply defending his family.
@HolyknightVader999
Ай бұрын
He wasn't a villain. He was a man burdened with running a dysfunctional realm that was on the verge of collapse. He was the hard man they needed him to be.
@radionroman
2 ай бұрын
The nilfgaard soundtrack is a nice touch, considering charles dance voices emhyr in the games
@susmi51910
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this analysis!
@lessthantom2
9 ай бұрын
What made Tywin great is he was never bad to be bad or good to be good like most other characters. He was a cunning an analytical man that made moves to always better house Lannister and rarely acted in emotional ways that would make him weak. His only knock where you could say he was a bad guy was what he did to Tyrion but everything else was purely to advance house Lannister and that’s it.
@H_Hendo
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an analysis of why Stannis Baratheon is the most internally complex character (at least his concept in the books). I feel like him and Tywin for me were some of the most enjoyable to watch because of their power, competence and character depth beyond their outward serious demeanor.
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
tywin was a leader and a winner , stannis was just a leader-wannabe but died without managing to become what he dreamd of
@H_Hendo
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 Read the books. Hes still alive. And hes also on track for becoming the very thing he believed he would be. And he is definitely a leader... he defeated the greyjoy fleet, being the leading naval commander at the battle, he held out against the full power of the reach in the seige of storms end, and he was almost the first person to take kings landing by force.
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
@@H_Hendo i've already read the book , and he is still a wannabe leader compared to tywin
@H_Hendo
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimenazaryan860 Then why is it Tywin who sees him as the biggest threat to the war, and also the only one to treat him seriously as a threat other than Tyrion?
@jaimenazaryan860
Жыл бұрын
@@H_Hendo because he's the least incompetent opponent he have , but still a leader wannabe compared to tywin , and the proof of that is that just tyrion (A LESS EXPERIENCED VERSION OF TYWIN ) KICKD HIS A** 😏
@vasilstoychev1962
6 ай бұрын
Tywin is very well written chatacter and everything he has done is on purpoce and make sence.
@leicraff
Ай бұрын
I think Tywin dying in the shitter is the only place he could've died where it did not end up looking like he was in full control of the situation.
@Ccm2019
3 ай бұрын
Tywin’s death is like a retcon. The man can kill Dany before landing in Westeros.
@sammcvey8538
Жыл бұрын
Charles Dance chewed every scene he was in, spat it out, and commanded us all to clean it up
@claymusicoff5663
Жыл бұрын
“He set the River lands n fire but that’s war.” “He did the red wedding to end the war… which is mostly mainly fighting in the river lands…”
@markthompson180
Жыл бұрын
I agree that the episodes with Tywin and Arya are fascinating. I love to see the interaction between them. It's so different from the rest of the show.
@stevendchu
8 ай бұрын
I'm always amazed by how close Tywin was to having it all, but throws it all away because of his need to be cruel and rub it in Tyrion's face. Joffrey was gone and Tywin didn't even have to do anything himself. Tommen is young and impressionable, will practically do whatever Tywin tells him. He finally gets Jaime back as the heir. He's also managed to get rid of Tyrion and send him to the Watch, all of this in one swoop. The Starks are crushed, Stannis is crushed and Tywin essentially would've ruled as King. I mean, he is LITERALLY sitting on the throne in Tommen's place during the trial! Yet he chooses to bring out Shae to humiliate Tyrion one last time, and all it ends in shit (literally).
@DeRepublicaDominican
Жыл бұрын
His goal was for his family's name to be fear/respect it no matter what. He wasn't a good man, he did horrible stuff that weren't on the show. I love smart villain, he was my favorite.
@Triple3P
Жыл бұрын
Damn this music and a Tywin video. What is this December 25th? Also we need a damn Westeros open world RPG
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