The thing is, Russia already violated treaties with Ukraine twice, knowing they achieve more every time. Any new treatie that comes to pass must break this cycle.
@gcoffey223
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine and NATO never negotiated in good faith. Look at the Kinsk agreement
@niu9432
Жыл бұрын
@@gcoffey223 Russia never negotiated in good faith. Look at Budapest Memorandum, where Russia has given guarantees to Ukrainian territorial integrity in exchange for Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons.
@duncan8437
Жыл бұрын
@@gcoffey223 this is bullshit. "Separatist" started a full on offensive three days after minsk II, another one one month later...
@miniaturejayhawk8702
Жыл бұрын
@@niu9432 only thing is ukraine would have never been able to use those weapons in the first place because moscow had all the codes. It was never a true exchange and more like ukraine giving to russia what belongs to russia. If ukraine had kept the weapons they would be stuck with a stockpile that would only strain their weak economy further due to maintainance.
@gcoffey223
Жыл бұрын
@@duncan8437 Was that in response to western ukraine breaking minsk 2 within the hour it was digned?
@hchen2513
Жыл бұрын
What has compromise done, but give Russia time to re-arm itself? The West should really support Ukraine as it is vital to the protection of world democracies. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇵🇭
@youraverage90sguys7
Жыл бұрын
ukraine is barely a democracy lmao, its the most corrupt country in europe more so than the dictatorship of belarus
@gcoffey223
Жыл бұрын
You should go help on the frontlines, or get your kids to go volounteer. They are running out of nazis to put on the front lines
@MrThhg
Жыл бұрын
@@gcoffey223 you know Russia has nazis, fascists, and ultra nationalists as well right? Shit every country in the world does…
@Mussi93
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 Nope.
@gr3avy
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 No sir. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇵🇭
@thothrax5621
Жыл бұрын
I mean he's right, but I feel like it's disingenuous to not acknowledge that part of the reason why Ukraine doesn't want to negotiate a treaty is that Russia has repeatedly taken advantage of that time and time again, not only in Ukraine but in every area that they bully. Ukraine had to deal with the lose of Crimea and they STILL got invaded 8 years later. At some point we have to recognize that Putin doesn't play fair and compromise doesn't solve that
@46mrph
Жыл бұрын
People in power does most certainly recognize the world threat of bullying, broken promises, self withdrawal of any agreement made when realize no more benefits to them. It is why 141 countries denounced Russia. Russia return to own soil war will be over.
@harvey6664
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like the USA is a fair player.... 😀
@sd-wc9ep
Жыл бұрын
@@harvey6664 the USA is Not Not the one getting invaded.
@46mrph
Жыл бұрын
@@harvey6664 yes USA only so far giving sticks and stones to not over advance Ukrainian more then Russians. Tic for tac that's fair.
@MrDiggy96
Жыл бұрын
@@harvey6664 whataboutoism isnt a valid debating tactic. OP has a point. why negotiate with someone who is willing and has repetedly disregarded treaties? all ukraine really wants is their territorail sovreignty. the reprereations is a bargening chip theyll throw away for such. you dont bragain for what you actually want. you start with more and cut down to less.
@derherrgraf6001
Жыл бұрын
People who say Ukraine should give up land for peace should look what happened to Czechoslovakia 1938 after they gave up the Sudetenland to save the peace.
@harvey6664
Жыл бұрын
There is Yugoslavia. Then Kosovo.
@zadovrus1624
Жыл бұрын
it's not 1938 grandpa
@markfryer9880
Жыл бұрын
@@zadovrus1624 Not far off it though with the way people are demanding that Ukraine should give up its land.
@kingace6186
Жыл бұрын
*Munich Agreement*
@goshu7009
Жыл бұрын
@@harvey6664 Yugoslavia was a mistake....in general.
@christopherg2347
Жыл бұрын
All a compromise does is: 1. Give Ruzzia time to rearm 2. Keep Ukraine out of the EU and NATO even longer. Neither will help in the long term.
@robertomanalo6346
Жыл бұрын
What you said are true and because Russia will.use thse pecae negotiation as a propaganda tool in order consolidate his forces and recovered there combat loses that they have suffered in the hands of Ukraine counteroffensive . Ukraine and US and its allies NATO know that will
@therussianartem
11 ай бұрын
If united stakes didnt stick their nose to anywhere.
@alenaustsinovich7348
9 ай бұрын
Since 2014 they had lots of chances to welcome Ukraine into NATO yet they didn’t… why do you think that is? It’s all been decided between the big guys. Business as usual and the rest of the idiots are just happy to pay for it with their taxpayer’s money. Congratulations you have been played
@rc55uk
Жыл бұрын
Whoever made this knew they were going for a perfect loop :D
@TheJasonleong1996
Жыл бұрын
Took me a 3rd loop to realize it XD
@andremoraes1391
Жыл бұрын
Selling weapons (means big business for the arm sales companies) taking over the territory in someone's else country natural resources r the final price!!! Why to pay when u can steal it using lethal force under the slogan liberty n democracy... 🥸🥸🥸👕👕👕
@jaysant6958
Жыл бұрын
KZitem asked me for feedback on your comment for some reason getting all detaily lol. I gave it positive feedback.
@vb8199
Жыл бұрын
Huh
@maddeusdoggeus1
Жыл бұрын
God Bless Ukraine 🇺🇦 and All who stand up for Democracy. Semper Fi
@sporehux8344
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine is not "making demands", they are seeking justice.
@andremoraes1391
Жыл бұрын
Justice is what the people of the Donbass region being murdered is seeking for 8 long years nobody respecting their fundamental civil human rights!!.. Now do justice pal if u really know the meaning ⚖️⚖️⚖️
@sporehux8344
Жыл бұрын
@@andremoraes1391 what ?, murdered by false flag Russian FSB agents
@AiRPasternak
Жыл бұрын
@@andremoraes1391 Poor excuse of the Donbass we all know it was crawling with separatists in the entire region you can't cry of being bombed when they tried to take a chunk of an independent nation
@jeanrogers6651
Жыл бұрын
@@andremoraes1391 yg is no use n no
@DangerousDavies2008
Жыл бұрын
@@andremoraes1391 Russian lies
@nesseihtgnay9419
Жыл бұрын
just imagine being attack by a crazy neighbor, at first he took abit of your yard but at first you didnt like it but you didnt want trouble so you just let him have it. than later your crazy neighbor attacked you again...this time you lost it and dont give a sh*t anymore and started punching back, and now you say i was nice with you but now you pushed my button and i want my piece of yard back.
@greywolf7422
Жыл бұрын
They didn't just let Russia have Crimea, they dammed the canal which supplied water to the peninsula.
@tehpurplepills
Жыл бұрын
imagine your neighbors 8 yrs ago democratically voted to secede, and ever since, their other neighbor has been attacking them, resulting in 15000 deaths over 9 yrs, all the while theyve been successfully independant with their own sovereign working governments. then finally, after 8 yrs, you tell your neighbors neighbor to stop trying to detroy them, or youll defend them. they refuse, keep attackign them, and then ban all men from evacuating, in order to heighten the body pile in a one sided war. also you and your neighbors speak the same language, your neighbors neighbor speaks a different one. your neighbors are luhansk and donetsk, and their other neighbor is ukraine. luhansk and donetsk are somethign like 80% russian as first language, compare to somethign like 30% for the rest of ukraine.
@joythought
Жыл бұрын
@@tehpurplepills you are speaking RU propaganda. Go and look. None of that is actually what occurred on the ground. The OP has the broad concept right. And can California vote to leave the USA and actually do it? No it doesn't work like that.
@tehpurplepills
Жыл бұрын
@@joythought Did multiple British Colonies, vote to secede from The British Empire? yep. could they have done that? They did. history is written by the winners hun. Thats why the next secessionists, the confederacy, "couldn't." do that. Because they didn't win. If they'd have won, they would've.
@tehpurplepills
Жыл бұрын
@@joythought and thats in reference to straight up american revolutionary, and civil war facts. IM speaking my speach. if im speaking propaganda, you should be happy.... it should be especially easy to refute. so either be happy at that, or be indignant or be a prick and insist im russian or some other bs. or stay mad? idk, you tell me.
@madmohawk6560
Жыл бұрын
To be fair they were invaded twice and now have to suffer from Russian inhumanity
@joythought
Жыл бұрын
And they saw what Russia did to Chechnya in the 90s, Georgia, Moldova. Russia is a stain on the story of Eastern Europe and it isn't Russia, it is the Moscow vacuum that sucks wealth out of satellites into its hungry maw. The mafia FSB headed by Putin controls basically everything in Moscow.
@StanHasselback
Жыл бұрын
But is time on Putin's side? Why would you trust anything Putin agreed to? The solution to any possible agreement would have to allow Ukraine in to NATO and Putin will not allow that because he would also look weak. The West tried to give Putin an off ramp by limiting the weapons we gave Ukraine. The gloves need to come off and Russia needs to realize this is a no win situation.
@TheMan83554
Жыл бұрын
Putin *believes* time is on his side. The reality of this is about as accurate as anything else Putin believes.
@giantWario
Жыл бұрын
I know what I'm about to say is gonna be a very unpopular opinion but yes, time is probably still on his side as long as people still buys Russian gas. This is because Russia still ridiculously outnumbers Ukraine. And, while neither Ukraine nor NATO ever reports on Ukraine's casualties (which is already a very bad sign), every time we get a glimpse of them like when Mark Miller said casualties were similar on both sides or when the Norwegian intelligence let it slip that Ukraine had well over 100 000 casualties, those casualties don't look good. To win against Russia as it stands right now, Ukraine would need to kill 4 Russian soldiers for every soldier that they lose and that's just not what's happening right now. And keep in mind that Ukraine has had full mobilization for a while now while Russia only has had partial mobilization. The only way for Ukraine to win is for Russia to run out of money and the only way for that to happen is for Europe to just stop buying Russian gas already! A price cap isn't enough.
@gcoffey223
Жыл бұрын
How come eu leaders and Israel officials are accusing the usa of derailing prior negotiations and admit usa never intended to honor the minsk agreement, which we broke that treaty before the ink dried. No country should trust any treaty the usa is a party to
@SwingEzzZZ
Жыл бұрын
Time is on the U.S. side. 20 years in Afghanistan for example.
@JamesR1986
Жыл бұрын
If Russia is willing to pay whatever price is necessary, they will win this war, the fundamental math (men and resources) is on Russia's side, (especially now that China is openly supporting Russia.) But it is an open question if they are wiling to do this, and, furthermore, Ukraine and the west can make the price a very, very steep. There is also the question of if Ukraine would rather subrogate themselves or Russia, or die fighting. Another open question.
@nostro1940
Жыл бұрын
Wanting to get your land back is "Escalating"?
@silverletter4551
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Just let Russia have the land. It's not worth human life.
@nostro1940
Жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 Why didn't the soviets let the nazis have the land? 20 million soviets died!
@cardinal9009
Жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 they already did that with Crimea. Russia disregards treaties and just attacks again later.
@AAAAAAAAA7248
Жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 what a terrible philosophy. Imagine if we continued to employ that during hitlers conquest
@KirosanaPerkele
Жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 Just let Ukraine have the land. It's not worth human life.
@dabeage
Жыл бұрын
There's no negotiation...Russians need to get out.
@maavet2351
Жыл бұрын
Russian soldiers
@DeanDoesMapping
Жыл бұрын
That’s a bit far to just deport a bunch of Russians out of the Ukraine. Russians have a right to live there just as much as Ukrainians
@javierititin
Жыл бұрын
@@maavet2351 Implied but yeah
@dabeage
Жыл бұрын
@@DeanDoesMapping No they don't, not if they aren't citizens....
@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine isnt getting Crimea back. They can want it all they want. I want to be a Billionaire. But that's not gonna happen either.
@dets49
Жыл бұрын
Would you compromise with a bully that already broke his word multiple times? Yeah, I thought so.
@dwitsha
Жыл бұрын
And people still out here saying shit like "iF yOu WaNt PeAcE, yOu SeNd DipLoMaTs AnD nOt WeApOnS"
@JaegerDreadful
Жыл бұрын
Those types of people were there at the start of WW2 now. Trying to appease Hitler and not go to war with Germany, using pretty much the same reasons as people are using now. Time is a flat circle, history is doomed to repeat itself.
@Mussi93
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 Newsflash: Russia invaded Ukraine. Not the US. But you know you have no arguments. Get lost.
@dwitsha
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 I don’t like having to work with the US either, but out of the three main power, they are easily the best choice. I hope that Europe will one day become self-reliant, but that day has yet to appear on the horizon, so all we can do for now is strengthen European ties, by, for example, giving our full support to Ukraine.
@nigelraporam6917
Жыл бұрын
@Mussi93 America has only destabilised the middle east and Africa for the past 30 years so how about u get lost
@JaegerDreadful
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelraporam6917 You are delusional if you think only Ameritards think like that, and delusional if you think either party is going to negotiate anything right now.
@JohnnyCatFitz
Жыл бұрын
Calling the desire for full justice and compensation, " escalation" is effed up.
@miarearranguez2710
Жыл бұрын
Never negotiate with the devil.
@SawBuii
Жыл бұрын
Never accept negotiation from the maker of devil
@aban2423
Жыл бұрын
You mean with Ukraine. Right?
@silverletter4551
Жыл бұрын
So don't negotiate with the globalists then? Because globalists want to wipe out ninety percent of the human race
@benanders4412
Жыл бұрын
The US?
@pauljohny200
Жыл бұрын
Hate is increasing .. Devil. .He does sign of the cross.. Both side love God but we have to reduce suffering.. This war is casue of foolish politicians ..Understand it. .Ukraine has right for being free and also being with europe .but no need to attack donbass.. There wll have been a cleverer simple way to escape in the trap where ukrane is now.
@maureencoyle666
Жыл бұрын
God bless President Velenskyy and please bring the people of Ukraine their homeland, reunited once more!!!! 💚💚🙏🏻🇺🇦🇺🇸🌍☮️☘️
@chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924
Жыл бұрын
Here's the negotiation...get out. Putins such a liar, I wouldn't bother negotiating with him anyways.
@sticks_studiosHQ
Жыл бұрын
He wants taken territories be recognized by Russia first Russia is just gonna attack Ukraine again and again and again
@andremoraes1391
Жыл бұрын
England n the US r dishonest themselves and all the other mob gangsters following em!!.. Do u think they're trustworthy uncorrupted faithful to their words n honorable?!? Think again...
@zrowe0233
Жыл бұрын
Putin heard you, he’s withdrawing his troops from Ukraine rn
@chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924
Жыл бұрын
@@zrowe0233 I wish, sadly he just keeps throwing them into the meat grinder.
@godzillalevi2883
Жыл бұрын
@@chinaiscommittinggenocidei4924that's what Zelensky doing
@christiansaenscheidt9056
Жыл бұрын
"Escalating" by demanding the bare minimum ...
@bivvystridents3752
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine should never compromise. Russia must leave Ukraine and pay reparations for all of the death and destruction they have caused.
@SawBuii
Жыл бұрын
You just said never compromise, so how you gonna fix this mess without negotiation?
@zadovrus1624
Жыл бұрын
If they won't compromise the war will not end, how blind can you be?
@markfryer9880
Жыл бұрын
@@SawBuii Break the Russian Orc Army and have them flee back to Russia!
@SawBuii
Жыл бұрын
@@markfryer9880 If Ukraine War ended, it would be bad for me.
@remerson4
Жыл бұрын
@@markfryer9880 -Russia- Mordor*
@johnwest7993
Жыл бұрын
Are people supposed to negotiate with bank robbers? Nope. They need to be arrested.
@FernandoNagib
Жыл бұрын
The Russian invasion is more like a kidnapping situation in a sense that you may need some level of negotiation in order to arrest the criminals with the least possible victims
@tombarac8253
9 ай бұрын
By who?
@denizalgazi
Жыл бұрын
There is nothing to compromise or negotiate especially with someone that doesn't honour agreements and seeks the annihilation of your people and your culture.
@segiraldovi
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine broke Minsk 2, the prime minister of Israel said that they were looking for peace and NATO countries didn't allow them. Merkel confirmed that saying they never cared for peace, only gave time to Ukraine.
@jmajors5946
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@DJDR3AM3Rz
Жыл бұрын
There are still Russian people living in ukraine... the part Russia annexed are areas where people from Russia lived... do you even know the history???
@denizalgazi
Жыл бұрын
@@DJDR3AM3Rz Komrad, your logic is absolutely brilliant. So Mexico should annex Southern California, Texas, and Chicago because of all the Mexicans that live there?
@krevetka9744
Жыл бұрын
@@DJDR3AM3Rz They do not know the history. They know nothing about the situation. I am that ethnic russian born and raised in Ukraine and it is MY LAND and we lived here for generations. Kyiv decided to ban our language, culture and religion. Is that not a violation of human rights? So Russia did not "take" this land, it's Kyiv who drove us out by force. Military force.
@nicklasmelander8467
Жыл бұрын
How can anyone ever trust Russia again? Both in politics and business.
@bansheep1
Жыл бұрын
Everybody is still buying Russian oil even when they say they dont..
@360-Guy
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Russia was trusted before thier illegal invasion or even before the cold War
@-Jkrsz-
Жыл бұрын
Lol they actually don't, the only big ones rn are like India and maby China
@bansheep1
Жыл бұрын
@@-Jkrsz- they buy with intermediary companies to keep the image that they are boycotting russian oil ughh !!! Lol
@I-love-mathematics
9 ай бұрын
How? Russia warned USA that if it tries to make Ukraine a NATO member, Russia will attack. USA didn't listen, so Russia invaded it. There is every right for Russia to invade Ukraine
@ivan-Croatian
Жыл бұрын
You NEVER negotiate with the terrorists.
@jkeelsnc
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t negotiate with Russia either.
@Best_grass
Жыл бұрын
Hard to negotiate with someone who views treaties just as a piece of paper
@AM-mu2kv
Жыл бұрын
Thats all major powers including america russia china uk france. If they have more guns they dont care about a treaty
@zrowe0233
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine viewed Minsk 2 as just a scrap of paper
@adriansheldon7778
Жыл бұрын
@@zrowe0233 how so .
@wickedmoth
Жыл бұрын
And I'm glad Ukraine doesn't want to compromise. Time is not on Russia's side. Ukraine is getting and going to get more aid, whereas testing the patience and resources of the Russian economy is a whole other story.
@aahamoj5685
Жыл бұрын
Why is there talk about negotiation? Should we negotiate with a thief? should we negotiate with a murderer? should we negotiate with a terrorist? Should we negotiate with a head of state who illegally invades a sovereign state? If we have to continue to talk about negotiation, then we need to wake up Hitler and apologize to him.
@20quid
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has been winning, you don't try to negotiate when you're winning because you'll only end up with less than what you'll have if you just keep on winning.
@AnimilesYT
Жыл бұрын
If you will keep on winning then that's true. But we can't look into the future, so we don't know if Ukraine will keep winning or not. Even though Russia is way weaker than pretty much everyone thought, they're still a force to be reckoned with. So at some point the tides may turn and the peace treaty may have to be signed on Putin's terms. For now Ukraine has the upper hand, and only time will tell if this trend continues or not
@Mrcoffe-xw8gz
Жыл бұрын
That's only assuming they keep winning, and only because you win now, doesn't mean you'll win forever, and besides winning has it's costs, mostly in destroying their own terretories, leading to more deaths and postponing the eventual recovery. It's sometimes better to win now with less, than risk defeat.
@jonsmith5058
Жыл бұрын
@@AnimilesYT but if they don’t get all their territory back and make Russia hurt by footing a bill, Russia has won. They can spin whatever land they gained into a victory, regroup, and go again. The only way to beat them is to push them back and knock them down. Appeasement will go as well with Putin as it did with a famous moustached Austrian last century. Alot of voices were clamoring for peace and appeasement. Its a good job they were told to shut up and we fought back. Ironically now the saviours of the West in that war are now the enemies at the gate, we must not cede anything more to Putin and hope he’ll become weak looking enough for his own country to throw him out a window and hope someone better will be able to come in.
@niu9432
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrcoffe-xw8gz and @Animiles - the problem is what is being proposed now is Putins terms and is only meant to buy him some time to recover. Ukrainians are not stupid and they know if they stop now they will loose their momentum and if they don't get real safety guarantees (like NATO membership) they will just postpone the death sentence for their country. Putin will not meet them half-way as it means looking weak, which means him being finished and replaced in Russia by someone's else. Any treaty signed with the likes of Putin is not worth a paper it's been printed on (just like Budapest Memorandum).
@maximedamour5192
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrcoffe-xw8gz So Ukraine should just give territories to Russia now? Why should Russia stop invading Ukraine then?
@joelweinert3580
Жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine they want their own land back. :)
@sebalo689
Жыл бұрын
" they're escalating their demands" it makes it sound like it's not reasonable But humm it's just reparation
@kingace6186
Жыл бұрын
Plus, they're demands have stayed the same since the Battle of Kyiv ended. They have not really "eScAlAtEd".
@TheSpeep
Жыл бұрын
"When we invaded their country, all they wanted was for us to get out." "So then we blew up some cities and now they want us to pay for those as well? Theyre escalating this whole thing!"
@osheridan
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSpeep ikr, so crazy. Like I just broke into a library and they told me to leave, but then I stabbed a child and they called the police??? Like, pick a lane!
@TheSpeep
Жыл бұрын
@@osheridan Lets be honest, the kid deserved it. He came too close to your borders.
@xiahan1698
Жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia was "willing" to negotiate because they were defeated by NATO; Ukraine has not been defeated by Russia yet.
@kingace6186
Жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia collapsed in 1992. NATO didn't get directly involved until 5 years later. Maybe you are talking about the Serbia-Kosovo situation aka the Kosovo War.
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
Жыл бұрын
@@kingace6186 The Federal republic of Yugoslavia still existed but that was pretty much Serbia (+Kosovo) and Montenegro at point.
@zrowe0233
Жыл бұрын
And Russia has not yet been defeated by Ukraine, remember, it’s the Russians that are occupying Ukrainian territory, not the other way around, and unless Ukraine can militarily kick the Russians out of all the territory they occupy including Crimea (which I don’t think they’re capable of doing) then they’re going to have to negotiate with the Russians.
@sovietandquandale-dl6ed
5 ай бұрын
Now they have lost
@gordondwyer3641
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine needs to pay for their war crimes.
@clinthowe7629
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, we shouldn’t be negotiating with a criminal. never.
@nightowlorder2750
Жыл бұрын
Answer is quite simple: Billions of dollars from Elensky's good friend Brandon.
@huseinyarisjanali7352
Жыл бұрын
Imo, Ukraine is well aware that they wont be getting all 3, heck im not sure if they're sure they can get 2. The point in having such a high demand is that you might end up in a compromise where you get one or two out of those 3
@Larsino2000
Жыл бұрын
Which is why they dont negotiate but kill all russians. More power to them i say. Why settle for less.
@kingace6186
Жыл бұрын
I know one thing. Ukraine won't settle for anything that doesn't return all of its pre2014 borders AND address crimes committed during the war. Basically, Sovereignty and Justice. Economic Reparations are a part of justice but if Ukraine regains uncontested control of its coast, it can rebuild its economy just fine.
@UltimaOnlineAlpha
Жыл бұрын
nicely looped sire
@Bio54633
Жыл бұрын
There can be no negotiating with war criminals. Also, uprovoked aggression must never be given legitimacy.
@Brian6587
Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@22448824
Жыл бұрын
Unprovoked? Really?
@zrowe0233
Жыл бұрын
How is Putin a war criminal? And how was it “unprovoked aggression”? Russia had repeatedly protested against NATO’s expansion eastward ever since the 90s and the west continuously ignored Russia’s genuine security concerns, NATO kept pushing and pushing, Russia drew a red line at Ukraine, and so unfortunately Russia invaded Ukraine.
@Bio54633
Жыл бұрын
@@zrowe0233 Unprovoked aggression is defined by the United Nations Charter, not by propaganda. War crimes and crimes against humanity are legal terms, defined specifically by law. There is no requirement for you to be persuaded, unless you're a judge on the International Criminal Court.
@Bio54633
Жыл бұрын
@@22448824 Yes, really. Russia was NOT attacked and was not under threat of attack.
@josephphoenix1376
Жыл бұрын
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
Жыл бұрын
Putin feels like Time is on his side, yet he is just 1 year shy of the average Russian male life expectancy. Let's see how that plays out for him.
@22448824
Жыл бұрын
He is only 45. Nowhere near 70
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
Жыл бұрын
@The Jack Of Hearts Man he is 71.
@sovietandquandale-dl6ed
5 ай бұрын
Putin isn't "average"
@matthiasdebruin589
Жыл бұрын
I don't want to negotiate too. If i had a nice tank or some good long distance rockets i would love to give then to Ukraine
@bobbywilliams-jl5fr
Жыл бұрын
Hope Ukraine get all back I praise Ukraine army glory to Ukraine
@bigbootros4362
Жыл бұрын
Never compromise with evil. Fight until Ukraine is free again.
@Strykenine
Жыл бұрын
If you negotiate with the Russians you deserve whatever you get.
@ejlonergan4073
Жыл бұрын
I think there is no reason to negotiate.
@RacerX1971
Жыл бұрын
This time the Bear messed with a porcupine..
@Sapphier4Dav
Жыл бұрын
That was the nicest loop i saw in a long time. Nice job
@ukranizator8302
Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraine!!
@robertbaratheon8635
Жыл бұрын
Z
@appletree6741
Жыл бұрын
Freedom and independence for the Ukrainian nation ✌️🇺🇦
@robertbaratheon8635
Жыл бұрын
@@appletree6741 Ukraine isn't a real country since 2014
@sovietandquandale-dl6ed
5 ай бұрын
Z
@The_Savage_Wombat
Жыл бұрын
Negotiations with Putin are futile. Only a clown can't see this.
@davebrown9707
Жыл бұрын
Damn right push them out of the "DPR" , the "LPR" and crimea
@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection
Жыл бұрын
54% of Crimeans wanted independence from Ukraine 12% wanted to maintain the Union with Ukraine 34% said I don't know Source Pew Research Spring 2014
@@davebrown9707 So if the referendum was overseen by UN and OSCE observers to maintain international credibility you would recognize it?
@jozefmasny8349
Жыл бұрын
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection Do you know why Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine in the first place? It was to avoid Jewish community from collecting money for the loan they gave them. Russian Soviet Republic took the money with the promise to make Jewish state in Crimea. They didn't pay the money nor did they gave up Crimea, but they gave it to Ukraine to avoid international trial. People seem to forget this little detail. Russia has not enough money to pay off the Crimean debt, the Jewish community will not ask the money from Ukrainians, but who's to say that the hundred years old debt from 1923 will not be reclaimed?
@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection
Жыл бұрын
@@jozefmasny8349 interesting if true. Doesnt have any effect on my position but if true it's good context atleast
@conlaiarla
Жыл бұрын
Russia tried negotiating. Even after the exposure of the lies regarding the Minsk Accord . That ship has sailed.
@owbvbsteve
Жыл бұрын
I side with the victim.
@bulatkhaertdinov7229
Жыл бұрын
@S Howard I agree, Russia is the victim
@bulatkhaertdinov7229
Жыл бұрын
@Atheos B. Sapien Unbelievable! Untihegemonized mind. What an adaptive hypocrite. Wish you all the best in life (random on the yt comments)
@bulatkhaertdinov7229
Жыл бұрын
@Atheos B. Sapien weakest thing to be doing is getting offended by someone on youtube comments and trying to hide it by utilising abbreviations
@silverletter4551
Жыл бұрын
There are no victims except for innocents killed by both sides
@osheridan
Жыл бұрын
@@bulatkhaertdinov7229 D'you have some kinda phobia of abbreviations? That's gotta suck
@calvinjohnstone2664
Жыл бұрын
War crimes accountability, like Ukraine and biological weapons, filming it, and when used putting it online as 'look how well we're doing ' propaganda?
@thereaperlord3738
Жыл бұрын
Show us the proof of this biological weapons first
@-Jkrsz-
Жыл бұрын
Where the biological weapons? Being built in the hospitals??
@toddbrackett4277
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir that's correct 👌 When you break something you need to repair it, when you take things you have to return them and when you you harm others you have to make amends. This is what we expect from children and there is nothing inappropriate or extreme about applying this standard to adults.
@nickrossich3612
Жыл бұрын
No compromise with evil!!!
@tomaskatinas1796
Жыл бұрын
There can't be negotiation with terrorists
@JamesTrifolium
Жыл бұрын
Just gotta hold out until the Wagner Group gets tired.
@knightlon
Жыл бұрын
*eradicated
@EstaviusMarx
Жыл бұрын
They are criticising the military for not supplying them with arms. Might be a case of their leader ‘disappearing’ or alternatively the military heads opposing him ‘disappearing’.
@svenngunnarrustgard1228
Жыл бұрын
Like Azov bataljon
@zadovrus1624
Жыл бұрын
@@EstaviusMarx Already resolved
@gregiles908
Жыл бұрын
Wanting International Law upheld is "escalation", what a joker.
@scottmills3770
Жыл бұрын
I don't blame them from wanting Crimes. It was stolen from them.
@osomartinez
Жыл бұрын
you don’t negotiate with evil
@miniaturejayhawk8702
Жыл бұрын
There quickest way for this war to end is to hold the stalemate. When both sides realize that they cant make any gains they will come to an agreement. Russia will not just pull out his troops just as much as ukraine will not just lay down its arms. Both are essentially an unconditional surrender and just like with your average fight you should not expect either side to just give up when there actually is something at stake. Anyone who thinks that kicking out russia will keep them away is an idiot. Russia had many strategic reasons for being in ukraine. All that will happen is that someone other than putin will try the same again. And ukraine already is in Nato by then then there will 100% be WW3. Anyone who calls for a "just" and "sustainable" peace but really only wants that russia gets kicked out and putin humiliated is not only a hypocrite but also a fool.
@niu9432
Жыл бұрын
That's bullshit. Russians would never attack NATO as they are simply too weak. Supposedly 2nd army on the planet can't handle much smaller country, just because they get weapons from other countries? Putin attacked Ukraine because he thought NATO countries would stay idle. Turned out enough countries perceived Russia and their bully attitude as a threat.
@matthijsnorg9281
Жыл бұрын
Thats so dumb. You completely overestimate Russia. If they lose the war they wont recover enough. And they will never be able to win a war with NATO so they will never start one.
@osheridan
Жыл бұрын
When someone shoots a child, I want them to go to prison. How many children do you think died because of Putin?
@Psydefex
Жыл бұрын
that loop was so clean biden could watch it for a year and never realize it was a loop
@bateens5733
Жыл бұрын
I suggest we send them what they need and assist them more with the intelligence and this war would either be over by the end of the year or we would have WW3, either way, the world has changed and has been changing since Syrian Civil War.
@DeanDoesMapping
Жыл бұрын
The Ukraine has honestly been turned into a playground for nato to indirectly test their new military toys against Russia
@Aldebaran__
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why they sent all the newest tanks and fighter jets in the flashiest of flashes. No hesitation what so ever.
@KaloyanKasabov
Жыл бұрын
New military toys... How old were the HIMARS again?
@_Nyx_Raven_
Жыл бұрын
"The" Ukraine, so you think Ukraine is a russian republic/region/territory, part of the Russian Federation? The distinction is critically important for the sovereignty of the Ukrainian nation-state, suggesting as it does that Ukraine is either a bounded nation-state - like Germany - or a region of Russia with amorphous borders - like the Caucasus. This is why, in 1993, Ukraine’s government asked Russia’s government to abandon the Soviet-era practice of referring to Ukraine as “na Ukraine” and use only “v Ukraine.” The na construction is, however, still widely used in Russia. To a Ukrainian worried about the nation-state’s territorial integrity, that little word “the” might suggest that the speaker does not much care whether Ukraine is an independent state. Like it or not, and intentionally or not, the language a person uses reflects their political positions, including their position on Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty.
@DeanDoesMapping
Жыл бұрын
@@_Nyx_Raven_ I’m aware that Ukraine being referred to as the Ukraine was when it was a territory/region of the Russian empire and the ussr (also Germany for brief periods). That being said, that’s just how I was raised saying it and how everyone around me says it. It’s an old habit. Now that being said, I will still refer to it as the Ukraine but your response is appreciated
@zadovrus1624
Жыл бұрын
@@Aldebaran__ There's a risk of those newest weapons getting captured and reverse engineered, that's why they don't send weapons that they themselves rely upon. Afterall, there's still China out there and US is aching to get into another fight
@azurejester1520
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine will win becasuse they know they are free. Hopefully, one day the Russian people will realise they, too, are free
@JaegerDreadful
Жыл бұрын
When many countries got independence from then Soviet Union they started to progress more and more as a economy and as a society. Russia is still living with a Cold War mentality, which can also be seen in their battlefield tactics and treatment of their troops. It's hopelessly outdated and wins you nothing. Get with the time or get left behind.
@SwingEzzZZ
Жыл бұрын
@@JaegerDreadfulProblem is the U.S. won't allow Russia to rise. Contain Russia. Contain China. They even plan for war with China in 2025. LOL.
@JaegerDreadful
Жыл бұрын
@@SwingEzzZZ Copium
@gcoffey223
Жыл бұрын
Unkess you spesk bad of ukraine or anything pro Russia... then you go to jail. Fuck Western Ukraine Nazis
@zadovrus1624
Жыл бұрын
@@JaegerDreadful Bro, if someone is living in a cold war mentality it's the Baltics, that to this day can't differentiate between Russia and USSR. Regarding tactics, this war is the first war after ww2 that has huge artillery duals, that's why tactics don't change much. People die during wars and no doubt there're as much dead ukrainians as there're russians.
@thomasczarnowski2267
Жыл бұрын
There is no NEGOCIATION with CRIMINALS !
@erichinkle8522
Жыл бұрын
Ukrainians deserve all that and more.
@jkdragonjk6895
Жыл бұрын
The problem is, Putin needs a win, even if it’s just symbolic and Ukraine is determined to not give it to him. Normally this is acceptable, except Russia is a nuclear power and if it seems like defeat is inevitable, who is to say the Russians won’t start throwing nukes around.
@jonsmith5058
Жыл бұрын
Whats the alternative? Cede the territory and wait another year for him to attack again, he keeps trying to annex more and more land and getting away with it. Enough is enough.
@josehawking5293
Жыл бұрын
Nukes will fly once Russia has Ukraine because their next stage will be with Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania. It is in the world’s interest for Russia not to be successful in Ukraine.
@hanstun1
Жыл бұрын
If Russia uses even one nuke they will stop existing. Virtually every western country will attack at once and Russia at this point can not defend itself by any other means than threatening nuclear war. If they use a nuke they have also used that threat and they are sitting ducks. Right now, half of the nations in NATO could take out Russia by themselves.
@jkdragonjk6895
Жыл бұрын
@@josehawking5293 I disagree, otherwise Putin would have gone after the Baltic states first, but they decided to target Ukraine, a non-NATO nation. Being in NATO guarantees safety.
@jkdragonjk6895
Жыл бұрын
@@hanstun1 yes, and neither will the west, we will effectively start nuclear Armageddon. If we push them back into a corner they will see no other way out, and mutual destruction is preferable to defeat.
@dbeaton1111
Жыл бұрын
So, demanding justice is unreasonable?
@MrMarimero1234
Жыл бұрын
Very honest commentary !!!
@darklord4395
Жыл бұрын
The West let Russia take Crimea, and look where it got us!? 😂
@rkmenescal
Жыл бұрын
"...by how well they've done militarily." I love this man! Never underestimate the power of denial.
@alja1798
Жыл бұрын
OMG!! YES!! Absolutely correct!! I haven’t heard anyone explain the situation any better.
@obtuse1291
Жыл бұрын
Who would negotiate with a known breaker of agreements? What would be the point? Answers on the back of a postage stamp please.
@Dihorse371
5 ай бұрын
It's not Ukraine doesn't want. It's US doesn't allow.
@dzingishan640
Жыл бұрын
Very clever conclusions
@londasimpson9869
Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Any negotiations between Russia and Ukraine should definetly be on hold right now! Time is healing, as time passes things will get better! But there should be great caution entering the situation room to negotiate, so that this war never escalates again! As far as war crime accountability, some of those men died in this war! It is a most serious situation, And prayers warriors around the world continue to pray for this war to end! God Bless!
@ryanclark3967
Жыл бұрын
Negotiate what? A treaty? Because the last one worked so well.
@terryfahey9952
Жыл бұрын
Because the world should not have to negotiate with terrorists…
@buravan1512
Жыл бұрын
US negotiated with TERRORISTS on many occasions.
@Theobserver6897
Жыл бұрын
The reason Minsk’s 2 failed neither party trusted one another. Russia never pulled out like they were supposed too and Ukraine never stood down. The only way to peace is no compromise force Russia out of the territory any half measure like Minsk two won’t work. Ukraine can’t back down if they give up part of there country for peace it would be like Poland giving up Danzig to appease the Nazis. Just like the poles the Ukrainian aren’t giving in
@Aussie-Mocha
Жыл бұрын
Excellent assessment on this situation! As long as Ukraine still has the willingness to fight for their demands Russia will have no power to request meaningful negotiations. How people can still call current RF a superpower is beyond me. Perhaps they forgot that they are no longer what they used to be, the Soviet Union.
@anonnimoose7987
Жыл бұрын
There's no point on negotiating. Demonstrated when Russia said that Moldova's peace treaty with Russia is null and void.
@janegardener1662
Жыл бұрын
Putin has put himself in between a rock and a hard place.
@iainhughes8110
Жыл бұрын
Why should Ukraine even consider making compromises with Russia? Russia must get out of Ukraine, permanently, and be made to pay for their crimes. Simple! Slava Ukraine! 🇬🇧♥️🇺🇦
@FrikInCasualMode
Жыл бұрын
And what is so hard to understand in Ukraine's position? They were attacked twice and flat-out robbed. Of course they want their own territory back. I wonder if this gentleman would be willing to just give up his property if he was robbed?
@johnkonig865
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty easy to see what's wrong with their demands, the territories in question contain plenty of Russians, and nobody with a sound mind would trust the Ukrainian government with them.
@FrikInCasualMode
Жыл бұрын
@@johnkonig865 A lot of Poles and Polish descendants live in Ukraine too. Also in Belarus, Latvia and other countries. Yet you don't see our government invading any of our neighbors. Instead standing invitation was issued to every person of Polish ethnicity wishing to return to motherland. Including automatic citizenship, help with establishing new life and financial support. Not invading sovereign country, aiming a gun and saying: You grandfather was Russian, you are Russian too. Now get in line. BTW: How many ethnic Russians died under bombs Matushka Rossija sent to "protect them"?
@johnkonig865
Жыл бұрын
@@FrikInCasualMode Mate, you completely misinterpreted my comment, though I suppose I could have worded it better. What I meant was that if they actually gave into the Ukrainian demands and retreated from these territories, then countless Russian civilians would be completely at the mercy of the Ukrainian government.
@FrikInCasualMode
Жыл бұрын
@@johnkonig865 Just as Ukrainian citizens are today at the mercy of Russian occupation forces? And we know how "merciful" is that horde of murderers, thieves and rapists.
@johnkonig865
Жыл бұрын
@@FrikInCasualMode Are you blind to your own words, Frik? You literally just wrote how that can end, and plenty of motivation the Ukrainians would have for doing something similar. Why should the Russians see demands that could result in something like that as acceptable, why do you?
@thomasreilly6362
Жыл бұрын
Those are the minimum any country would demand. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@winstonbachan9661
Жыл бұрын
To Eat An Elephant You Have To Take One Bite At A Time! Every Bite Must Be Done Independently With The Teeth Of Democracy ☮️
@erikthehalfabee6234
Жыл бұрын
And Ukraine should settle for nothing less than financial reparations and restoration of sovereignty. (perhaps with the exception of crimea)
@markgoode4109
Жыл бұрын
I can see no point in negotiating with Putin. He has already proved to everybody that his word mean nothing.
@sovietandquandale-dl6ed
5 ай бұрын
False
@privatepilot4064
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine doesn’t want to negotiate because they are winning. Look at one of many media articles and they tell you that Ukraine has Russia on the run. Why negotiate if you’re beating your opponent?
@johnkonig865
Жыл бұрын
You still have to negotiate peace at the end of the war anyway, you know that, right? And even if the negotiations lead nowhere at this point, the little effort it would take to start them seems to be more than worth it. Especially if you consider how many people are suffering this very moment with no effort from either side to stop it.
@cosmicwanderer891
Жыл бұрын
What is Ukraine winning?
@privatepilot4064
Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicwanderer891 Not by a long shot. Personally, I believe they lost a long time ago. However, the media doesn’t tell anyone that. Ukraine is busy selling all the arms they’ve been given on the blackmarket.
@joeljoss1916
Жыл бұрын
As the man said, they don't have much to talk about. Ukraine says "G TF outta here", russia says "make me".
@NarekAvetisyan
8 ай бұрын
Where do I watch the full interview?
@thepurnomo4841
Жыл бұрын
No compromise to the invader OF COURSE ! Nobody is allowed to steal our Land , buddy ! You wont even Surrender your territory to any Thief ….. Absolutely !!!
@Paws.of.Justice
Жыл бұрын
Cost and time will make both nations to kneel.
@master1941
Жыл бұрын
My president Vladimir Putin in our general assembly told you his position, we are going to liberate and restore social wellfare in our new 4 territories and push the Ukranians out of the range of the artillery provided by the west, (150 km) from them, we are taking Odessa. Victoria Nuland: "We have provided 5 billion dollars to Ukraine for democracy" Political interference by the United States in money breaks article 2 from the Budapest memorandum. The Minsk Agreements the parties were Ukraine and the goverment ofricials from Donetsk and Lugansk; Russia, Germany and France were garantors, not parties. Ptr Poroshenko, Angela Merkel and François Hollande confessed that Minsk Agreements were a sham. The Russian Federation recognised the independence from Donetsk and Lugansk after 8 years and 14,000 dead and signed a security treaty and implemented article 51 of the United Nations of preentive self defense (i don't have to wait to be attacked) hours before that Vladimir Putin asked the State Duma to use the Russian army outside of our nation, the Ukranian armed forces from 40,000 gather 100,000 troops to storm both republics making legal our implementation of article 51 of the United Nations, everything else is political position, not international law. The only negotiation we will accept is unconditional surrender.
@suevialania
Жыл бұрын
Imperialism is not democracy! The Putin's Rússia against Ukraine! Zpain's against Catalonia, etc
@CarpYT576
6 ай бұрын
They've also lost: 6 million people via emigration 2 million people who live in the occupied zones Minimum 200k people as war casualties Countless tanks, artillery, air defense systems, etc. Their economy
@crashmatrix
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that seems pretty on point.
@jimreynolds3798
Жыл бұрын
The Ukrainian military has been decimated, NATO mercenaries are keeping it going. Good men died for politicians, not their country. As a veteran, it saddens me…
@brianparsons9368
Жыл бұрын
You 🤡 nato mercenaries 😂😂
@cosmicwanderer891
Жыл бұрын
@@brianparsons9368 That's true. Ukraine has lost 300k+ soldiers already. There are lots of western troops on the ground
@brianparsons9368
Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicwanderer891 utter bollox, propaganda Z🤡. Nato isnt involved in this war. We're all sat in barracks 🤣🤣🤣🤣 at the Russians
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