You won't stop cheaters by making VAC run on the kernel level, but you will put everyone running VAC in danger.
@TheJosephB333
Ай бұрын
Great explanation
@jayden7945
Ай бұрын
Nobody expects it to stop all cheaters, thats not possible, it will however stop most
@velv_1997
Ай бұрын
No, it won't. People use Valorant as an example, but that game doesn't even have a replay system so you're just left to assume it doesn't have cheaters. And Apex Legends just had a security breach where hackers would inject cheats in pro's PCS through their kernel anti-cheat.
@Dribbleondo
Ай бұрын
@@velv_1997 That and it has a bug bounty program so people are incentivised to find issues with Vanguard. It's a different approach, but not a worse one. Apex's issue was very much to do with the engine, where the cheats were being allowed due to an engine exploit, which bypassed EAC. EAC was not how the exploit was executed as you are implying and I really hope this is an honest mistake, and not spreading FUD around.
@TheOrangeRoad
Ай бұрын
Hmm, hackers vs spyware
@FrederikJolle
Ай бұрын
Doesn't have to kernel it just has to stop obv spinbotters who just downloaded something for 2 bucks i legitimately have had a cheater on my team or enemy team in 50% of my valve matchmaking games
@sir_lancelot7915
Ай бұрын
Couldn’t they still cheat with hardware? Like memory editors or cards like that?
@qudruplem8570
Ай бұрын
yeah but you can also argue that the grand majority of people wont go so far
@chickentenderlover2412
Ай бұрын
@@qudruplem8570So then why implement such an invasive system to catch, in your words, a small minority of cheaters.
@fallensach
Ай бұрын
@@chickentenderlover2412 because it eliminates the majority of cheaters aka the software ones
@qudruplem8570
Ай бұрын
@@chickentenderlover2412 My words are "the grand majority of people wont go [that] far" which implies the majority of people use software instead of hardware based cheats. Im not sure what you are arguing with your comment but would love to understand,
@supra3502
Ай бұрын
There is no anti cheat that will stop everything - weak and mentally ill people will always find out how to cheat . But i want anti cheat that can at least stop spin bots . You know - most of people downloaded cheats from first link . If there was actual anticheat in this game we would have 1 cheater every 10 games, not 20 . Amount of cheaters is increasing depending on how high your elo is and 20k is indeed impenetrable wall . If you are 20k elo+ it means that you are lucky and some of your teammates got stronger cheats than your enemy
@Eclipse-SSC
Ай бұрын
or just use the A.I they trained on CS:GO with millions of games and have it run server-side and slam every cheater with an instant ban.
@fallensach
Ай бұрын
Probably wont be possible. There is no AI model that has 100% confidence. One false positive and your ai anticheat is done for
@evankim2406
Ай бұрын
Not possible since the data was spoiled by false verdicts by cheaters + it's on the old engine meaning the data (probably) isn't compatible anymore.
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