6:52 “mwII was the first game in cod history with an FOV slider” as i sit here on my xbox playing cold war at 100 fov…
@FHT1883
Ай бұрын
I hate Warzone because of the unholy mix of Cocaine, Red Bull and ADHD that players are on. Warzone is only fun for tryhards or pros, not for causals like me. DMZ was perfect for its slower pace and social aspect. I made a dozen online friends during the DMZ lifecycle.
@ElPatron42069
Ай бұрын
It’s funny because some people might think you are exaggerating but I promise you 100% most streamers are definitely on adderall and slamming Red Bull etc etc. cocaine and meth as well. I get it, it helps you play better. But it’s so terrible for you so why risk your health just to play better at a game? And without the drugs they are ass. They better be getting rich af from it otherwise what’s the point
@mronwarzone
Ай бұрын
and wz1 was for casuals too. now its all ruined by yy tiktok kids..
@anthonytini8367
Ай бұрын
Omg. You're trash at the game , there's no reason to slander us. Go play a game that has a younger player base. COD players have been playing for decades now , you expect us to miss every shot otherwise we are drug addicts ? GTFOH
@dis6900
Ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. I hop on MW3 like twice a week now thanks to Helldivers 2 and NCAA 25. Every time I get on MW3, I just rage because of all the people you just listed. DMZ was slower paced, had goals and objective and risk (losing your weapons, keycards, etc). It was an awesome mode that my boys and I played the hell out of. Oh, and the anxiety of dealing with real players was so awesome. I wish they'd bring it back but that's wishful thinking.
@chrisupton6190
29 күн бұрын
@@mronwarzonewz1 was the start of the crackhead yy TikTok bs
@I--benn--I
Ай бұрын
DMZ suffers from an issue alot of recent CoDs have had and that's: The devs putting their eggs in too many baskets. It's not a coincidence that when CoD keeps Mp modes outside of stuff on 6v6 maps to a minimum that 6v6 has better support. MWIII shows that. People can say and wish that we get DMZ 2, more Ground War and more Raids but it's obvious CoD needs to focus and only focus on the big 4. -Warzone. -Campaign. -6v6 Multiplayer. (Gunfight can stay since that can be on small 6v6 maps instead) -Round Based Zombies. (or a different type of Zombies mode if it's not made by Treyarch, Treyarch needs to solely focus on Round Based) No Ground War mode that drains resources from 6v6/gives Activision an excuse to make less 6v6 maps. No DMZ mode that messes with Warzone. The only thing that could return is MWZ because a PvE mode with light extraction mechanics works way better in CoD than a PvPvE one and Spec-Ops has been so awful in both MW2019 and MWII that I'd rather want Infinity Ward to do a Zombies mode that takes the best parts from DMZ and MWZ.
@GKID7891
Ай бұрын
Infinite Warfare had round based zombies. I can't remember if people received it well.
@redline841
8 күн бұрын
It really feels like these games could have been part of the annual releases as spinoff experiments. I just don't like annual releases causing good ideas to get buried and underdeveloped
@vapor101
Ай бұрын
As a literal day 1 DMZ player and fan. You hit the proverbial nail on the head ! Yes that’s the biggest reason we aren’t getting updates , content etc. As much as I truly love the game mode, it’s simple economics . Thanks for the deep dive . GG
@Elesarr
24 күн бұрын
i think the problem was that IW thought players wanted a tactical shooter instead of a cod game so they invested wayyyy too much into it, and when it didn't yield favourable results (especially with all the changes they made to WZ2.0 due to DMZ having incredibly negative reactions) they just kinda pushed whatever little focus they had into just finishing up whatever they were already cooking instead of keeping the mode going. also infinity ward tried to do a stupid large amount of irrelevant things on top of the such as spec ops missions and raids (raids being a cool concept but ultimately could've been like the cold war post-season cinematics). at the end of the day infinity ward is the problem. was obvious back in mw19 and made worse in mwii
@changye9604
7 күн бұрын
I love tactical shooters. For me it was fresh and fun. Loved warzone 2.0 slower pace made it feel like a real battle royale.
@ponyboyofficial
Ай бұрын
DMZ was my favorite mode since MWII launched day 1. After 200+ successful exfils I started to understand the ebb and flow of the matches, believe it or not you could at one point play however you wanted. After losing a match and having to get back all my gear again I would love to just go in full sniper recon, lot of crawling, masking, sometimes not even firing a single shot unless necessary. This did not feel like Call of Duty, it felt different in the best way possible. Up until the last time I played DMZ which was about over half a year ago, I would notice a pattern of logging on, first match would spawn in death squad bots on a buggy to instantly wipe me out. I recorded clips of this because it would seem to be consistent every time I played my first match of the day in DMZ. One of the core tenants I think players abandoned DMZ was the lack of incentive. Sure you can extract with some good loot but once your locker is already full, what's the point? Not to mention the bundle packs that give you an advantage over other players like spawning in with a revive or UAV all the time. Just like with Guitar Hero, Activision is going to burnout Call of Duty with these drip feed content drops and yearly releases. All designed to squeeze as much money out of the player in exchange for them to have the most fun experience. Fun is locked behind a paywall.
@UltraGreenNo.57
24 күн бұрын
While people say it was casual and a warzone alternative I digress, the missions made this mode so intense, especially when going into the bunkers and building 21. Collecting the crates was also nightmarish.
@knowtheplan472
Ай бұрын
6:57 Actually BOCW was the first COD to have an FOV slider. BOCW and VG had FOV sliders before MW2
@AC130rus
25 күн бұрын
Bro it's not some deep , get a life
@morinaka_
17 күн бұрын
An unfortunate downside of warzone being built off of MW2019
@sukimoro
Ай бұрын
DMZ is what got me into cod, as well as raids, kinda sad to see them go.
@rgvwingchun
Ай бұрын
Good perspective…. Just gonna try to play DMZ as long as possible
@dodgeshadow099
Ай бұрын
cod fans don’t like tactical shooters that’s why they hated mw2 and DMZ cause it was “slow”
@mronwarzone
Ай бұрын
freaking cod fans
@kevkeast6283
Ай бұрын
Ashika Island wasn't
@anthonytini8367
Ай бұрын
Wrong. We hate playing ai. PvP or nothing . Bot players love PvE because they actually get kills this way. This is fact, not fiction.
@mronwarzone
Ай бұрын
@@anthonytini8367 you* hate playing ai.
@mronwarzone
Ай бұрын
@@anthonytini8367 also escape from tarkov: casually having more pve players than pvp when pve came out and became purchasable
@vaporition
Ай бұрын
DMZ failed bc it was released and then they did nothing with it. The main thing that was appealing was finding blueprints u could keep but then they didnt transfer to Warzone or literally have any value. They basically wasted everyones time
@LordmonkeyTRM
Ай бұрын
DMZ is hands down the best thing the games industry has ever created. GOATED.
@AugustoV8Cesar
Ай бұрын
Plunder mode laughs at your comment. DMZ is as trash as BR. Edit, it is also FAVORITE BY THE CHEATERS.
@aleksandergjengst782
Ай бұрын
For noobs that was to scared of warzone br it was probably good...For a true fps player it was just a cheap copy of Tarkov.
@Ace_2O2
Ай бұрын
TF2: „Am I a joke to you?“
@itzpancakes
Ай бұрын
@@AugustoV8Cesarplunder is ass lmao resurgence solos is way better
@ECWPlays
Ай бұрын
@@itzpancakesI believe that the bad takes can get worse. That's why I nominate Black Ops 3- NO! Vanguard as the best CoD Campaign of all time
@lightsiderevan7233
Ай бұрын
Extraction shooters can't be monetised with pay 2 win bundles. The development team ruined it themselves with 15 minute cool down weapons and free UAV's. Had they just given us missions to do that made it so you could get your cool down at 15 minutes or get 10 exfils for a free UAV it would have been fine. I still play it every night with my friends and I'll keep playing for as long as the servers are up. The non DMZ fan doesn't think there's enough of a player count but honestly I could count on 1 hand the amount of times I've met the same player twice so I still there's a solid player base.
@78aquaman
Ай бұрын
The cool down should have been universally 30 min. The cool down is way too long and dissuaded folks from playing and getting better and consistently.
@DEEZ_NUGGETS
Ай бұрын
@@ILostYourSoulwithin your region, same ish happens in WZ, Zombies and resurgence. The player count on DMZ is much smaller and less chaotic so it's easier to pay attention and recognize the names. I've run into the same teams on resurgence countless times.
@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961
Ай бұрын
Looking at Tarkov monetization, DMZ and even modern day Warzone is less annoying
@romanbellic9580
Ай бұрын
@@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961 lolno, Tarkov is definitely scummy for adding the new edition and all of the small microtransactions they said they wouldn't add. But it's still nowhere as bad as DMZ or modern day Warzone.
@gourdbox
Ай бұрын
@@78aquamanthe countdown was horribad, but it also didn’t matter. You can still do really well with trash guns in DMZ. So it was like a fake limitation that pissed a lot of people off.
@darkfig
Ай бұрын
15:41 Absolutely yes, DMZ has always had a supportive community even after the updates stopped. Infinity Ward struck gold with DMZ in the sense that they were able to simplify the realistic/extraction shooter genre while still making it enjoyable. If they went on with the 2 year life cycle, who knows? Maybe it would've made extraction shooters popular for a little longer and set a new style of arcade extraction shooters of some sort but that's just my opinion. Either way, great video and thank you for shedding some light on this
@LtKlivian
Ай бұрын
I miss DMZ. Engaging trash talking people, helping friendly players and just general chaos thru a round. I had a ton of funny.
@BrandRedacted
18 күн бұрын
I enjoyed DMZ at first, but after a couple of updates, they turned the NPCs into bullet sponge terminators with aimbot
@maxamillion5585
16 күн бұрын
I actually freaking loved DMZ it has a gameplay loop that is hard but not impossible, the biggest thing that makes it unenjoyable is when some lazy piece of crap stays at the exfil Helio and kills you because they came from warzone and don't understand the concept of playing a game properly with out ruining it for others. It was fantastic in every way and I can't understand why they traded that for the stupid zombies we have now
@ReptilianBoomer
Ай бұрын
Bruh Cold War was the first COD on console with FOv Silders, That is such a simple google search
@Gizmo-01-24
Ай бұрын
Great video bro ..coupleof things to add into it ..1 . Phixate still plays near enough every day he is the goat. 2. I still play everyday as donmost of my friends . 3.why is it still on beta if not going anywhere with it seems crazy to let it all go for nuthing all that work and players . 4.halloween event was best in history Al maz map at night wow just wow . 5. Everyone still wants dmz but we would love a reset and fix the glitches .6.maybe delta force will wake up cod and they will see messed up trying to bin the best game mode ever seen in cod .7.sorry for the long rant but we just want dmz 2.0 either fix this or bring it out on standalone game .8.i have subbed to ur chanel and look forward to dmz videos please keep them comeing and hopefully this mess gets fixed .9.last point .how do we as players get activition to pull finger out and sort this dmz for players after all its ment to be for player not money please activition listen to us we want dmz 2.0
@vapor101
Ай бұрын
I too loved the Halloween mode ! That was like our farewell. I agree with most of your comments.
@Just762mm
Ай бұрын
@@vapor101Halloween event was a great time in our lives 😢
@Halophotographystudio
Ай бұрын
I think that your theory that DMZ held Warzone back is solid but I feel that it was mishandled by Activision. DMZ was the answer to an ageing player base that was looking for a laid-back, less sweaty game mode. I never spent more on a Call of Duty game (which I have played from conception) and felt conned and betrayed when they announced that they were stopping DMZ updates. I had already preordered MW3 and had bought so many bundles because we were told they would transfer to MW3. Wrongly assuming DMZ was going to continue. I haven't spent a penny on MW3 since and won't in the future. I still play DMZ and don't find the glitches a major problem, even on EU servers and would love to see it as a stand-alone game with its own development when its ties to other modes are severed.
@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu
Ай бұрын
Its on you bro you didnt think that the gamemode supported by infinity ward might take a break when infinity ward starts their next games development. But no you had to buy impulsively.
@knolsey
Ай бұрын
DMZ did not almost kill cod, DMZ has as many players currently as urzikstan BR, and more than Zombies. DMZ quite literally was COD's saving grace, but they fumbled the bag.
@DNF_Dumb-As-FrenchFries
21 күн бұрын
Dam right and every other clown in the comments have there "ReAsOnS" but opinions are like the Russian Rupal valuable.
@insertu5ernamehere
21 күн бұрын
Hell yeah DMZ is badass it’s like what gets me to play a few more matches of another game mode on cod because it’s so tough like you really have to have skill for locations like building 21 and koschei. Since the stakes are so high, it kinda takes me back to the sweat levels of the golden era cod games. Love a good challenge.
@Gian_sas
10 күн бұрын
I've yet to know a single person irl that played that shit
@insertu5ernamehere
10 күн бұрын
@@Gian_sas that’s probably because realistically, you have no friends you talk to or any kind of social life at all. I know a good amount.
@knolsey
10 күн бұрын
@@Gian_sas weird anecdote mate.
@scottt325
Ай бұрын
DMZ was going to be Warzone. BR was being replaced by an extraction game. WZ1 success forced them to make DMZ as a secondary option. This is why so many of DMZ mechanics and PVE elements were present in WZ.
@azwabi
Ай бұрын
We all DMZ fans would love it to be stand alone game. Right now it almost work like this. Lobbys are full at all time. I think it their decision was actually more bussines decision than just smaller player base. Its reasonable that making DMZ missions was to complex for other studios to continue. I wouldnt be suprised if zombies was supposed to be dmz 2 but they switched during development process. I will be still playing dmz but i dont know if this would be last shooter i will play ever.
@Lil_Lawzy
Ай бұрын
Great video! DMZ was my favourite game mode (aside from round based zombies) in COD and when they cut support when MWIII released, I almost stopped playing COD completely. The MWIII Zombies mode is a complete joke compared to DMZ especially at it is literally just the DMZ Halloween event with pvp turned off. I think the main reason they discontinued support for DMZ is that they couldn’t milk the players for money like they do with Warzone, you can see they tried to with the pay to win DMZ bundles that gave you a free UAV at the beginning of every game but ultimately failed. Hopefully Delta Force: Hawk Ops will fill the DMZ void when it releases.
@fiercingdragon
24 күн бұрын
DMZ was a joke when I first tried it with friends.
@FDNY101202
Ай бұрын
Sadly i think they killed it off because it lacked depth and it bascially competed with warzone when it should have been touted as something separate with more separate development. They were just a little too closely tied together.
@timothyroush7589
24 күн бұрын
I miss the "heist crews" that I made in Dmz, good video.
@wackingtoncityhistorybuff
Ай бұрын
nice video man, didnt expect it to be this in depth with clean editing, timestamps and subtitles you spoil ur subs
@indigoDMZ
Ай бұрын
I'm just doing my best with each video 🫡🔥
@localemofailure
Ай бұрын
Finally a good video about what happened with DMZ. I see way too many people act like it was a flawless mode so I appreciate when someone who enjoys it, is actually able to criticize it. Also one thing I’ll add when referring to MWZ’s abandonment is that the mode was developed by Treyarch and High Moon. However as of season 3 ,Treyarch left the project. What little is being released now is mostly stuff that Treyarch began making but is just being finished by High Moon and some of SHG. Sucks to see it abandoned but I can’t imagine SHG would want to dump a ton of resources into a mode that they didn’t make (and probably didn’t want) so I personally get it. Ik this video is mostly about DMZ but I figured I’d mention that since it was brought up.
@seanog9683
11 күн бұрын
Dmz was the most downright insane crazy toxic yet friendly game I've played in years and it's amazing for it. I don't think it should have worked as well as it did but it just worked
@ShrimplessScampi
17 күн бұрын
DMZ up until around the first mid season patch was very fun imo
@cubedpotatoeshd2479
3 күн бұрын
"Dmz was the centerpiece of MW2" This is apparent if you played the campaign tbh
@SurprisedDriftwood-fv5rf
Ай бұрын
I loved DMZ when it came out it’s all I played literally spent every night on it, but the whole constant pvp with teams griefing, camping bodies, 6 man map wiping squads just ruined it for me I enjoyed the story missions and grinding the challenges and upgrades was fun for me, but like I said the constant pvp just ruined it for me
@kitefromhell
Ай бұрын
There is a few hiccups on your video 1.- FoV Slider was 1st on cold war for console 2.-The backpack system wasnt the same after an update this proves that the fake “ecosystem” thing you are talking about crumbles down it was all down to IW calling the shots. And no WZ MWIII Backpacks is the same just beacuse it works. If it isnt broken dont fix it.
@NFawc
Ай бұрын
Why can't I pay for DMZ and its onwards development? If there was a £30 option to play it, I'd pay it! To think how much time and effort they pi$$ed away on zombies.
@davitdavid7165
Ай бұрын
I have a different theory about the slow movement. If you look at the campaign, gunsmith and early gameplay it was meant to be a slow game. They even tried nerfing the no stock and other such attachments to slow people down. They only later accepted the movmenrt and played into it with things like the cold war gunsmith. There is also the skill gap. Having to fight oponents who laser you out of the sky, one shot you with flinchless sniper rifles and soge every shot when you fight them close range probably turned off new players (at least in the eyes of activision). I remember them saying that they removed movement for accessability. In the end it seems like all of these factors combined to guarantee a slower cod: the devs wanted to realise their vision of a slow cod with a more interesting gunsmith while the company itself was pushing in the same direction as they wanted to pander to new players and push the extraction mode.
@gourdbox
Ай бұрын
The stealthy campaign mission with item crafting, I always thought they would bring that into DMZ
@murdurmuffin7872
Ай бұрын
I believe Warzone 2 and Multiplayer aggressive SBMM actually killed the game, not DMZ. After the first couple months, I hated the Warzone changes (away from MW2019) so much I stopped playing that mode entirely. My old BR gang that played with me multiple times a week in MW2019 quit sooner than I did. As for the multiplayer, it was frustrating to play whether I just wanted to chill out and have fun or if I wanted to get competitive and try my best. It wasn't even useful for ranking up guns because DMZ did that better. End result: MW2 DMZ was the only mode that saw significant play for me and at least 3 other people I played the game with. It was the most approachable and consistent provider of fun. Maybe this is confirmation bias, but most of the CoD content on KZitem was DMZ at the time. Not Multiplayer or League, and certain-fuckin-not Warzone 2. MW3 has not done better either and has convinced me not to buy CoD titles for at least 3-5 more years. I was hoping Battlefield would make a comeback, but right now my eyes are on Delta Force and titles completely outside of the arcade FPS genre. EDIT: I will agree however that DMZ/CoD brought out a massive identity crisis. They tried to take a fundamentally hardcore mechanic gametype, and get casuals to enjoy it. Casual gameplay (absolutely nothing wrong with it) just simply doesn't benefit from high risk and punishment mechanics of extraction gamemodes. Trying to soften those mechanics to the point, also just removes the incentive to play for those that want hardcore mechanics. Can't have your cake and eat it too sort of dilemma. Design decisions such as castrating snipers and meta-cementing SMG's, yet building big maps with wide open coverless spaces also drastically hurt the game no matter what mode you decided to play.
@ZeroSystem
Ай бұрын
dude thank you for the history, the information and the analysis even if you're wrong I don't care I appreciate your ideas. I have a friend i Ravensoft and he's not been able to confirm anything but you're not wrong about drama between teams/companies.
@vojak71
Ай бұрын
I really liked that mode. Even sadly development ended there is noting to worry about gameplay wise. Similar game gonna be released on steam (alpha access) named Delta Force Hawk Ops so if anyone wanna try it you can.😄
@gourdbox
Ай бұрын
Similar but not as good, exfil is just a button press not actually riding out on a chopper for example
@ImCreepingDeath
Ай бұрын
Thansk for taking the time to make the video. Lots of great points all which make sense but as you have presented and it's one or two things its all of the above. New fan here I'll go back and watch your videos and keep watching your new ones but I wonder how the servers will stay up for!!! Also, will we still Delta Force videos on your channel I wonder???
@ZachNovak
Ай бұрын
I stopped playing Warzone with all my friends in Season 4 when they introduced SBMM, then they changed the game engine to a horrible clunky feel and we have no intentions of going back. MW19 was peak CoD.
@animanaut
Ай бұрын
i found concept art and level design artwork posted on artstation's website. you can see hints there of cancelled content (second year expansion maybe?) and ideas they dabbled with (example: night maps, way before the halloween event). in terms of artdirection and -execution i find mw2 superior to mw3. much more love to detail and level design. urzikstan is kind of bland whereas maps like al mazrah have quite some heavy environmental storytelling that i simple dont see/feel in urzikstan. you can find physical artifacts described in found dmz notes in in al mazrah. i feel the same for verdansk but not for current urzikstan which is kind of all over the place without direction (intersection of zombie lore with wz level design, wtf). the lack of sbmm in dmz was actually a quite refreshing feature allowed for more casual gameplay. when im done with the current battlepass i usually tend to come back to dmz. it feels like a well worn sofa at this point, waiting for me 😄
@yungploomer6476
Ай бұрын
I never thought about DMZ affecting Warzone so much. I think your point can further be confirmed because does anyone remember at the beginning of MW3 zombies, it still said “DMZ Beta” in the top left corner as the game loaded in? I love DMZ and the memories it brought. I think you’re right though, COD players don’t have patience for a game like this. I’m personally very excited for DF Hawk Ops 🙂
@youraveragereffian
12 күн бұрын
misread the thumbnail as "IT ALMOST KILLED GOD" and yeah that was an experience
@MuhammadZhafran
28 күн бұрын
i like how you mentioned MWZ 1:32 coz one of the reason i bought MWIII in the first place is because MWZ, DMZ combine with zombies which i love the idea of it, and then it barely got any content after season 1 and then came the usual cod disappointment 1:46 looking at this makes me wonder why they don't just put Koschei Complex, heck even Building 21 and put zombies spin on it, it would be better than just some part of al-mazrah... i remember how good Koschei Complex in DMZ unlocking those parts for kastov-762 'heated madness' blueprint... i just wish MWZ have some sort of that progression and reward sorry for my out of topic rambling about MWZ in DMZ video lol, i just want to vent out because season 5 reloaded is probably the end for MWZ with it's final story mission, anyways good job on the video man keep up the good work
@urbout2lose
25 күн бұрын
Dmz was pretty good casually when you wanted to you could help squads or just play with a friend that is new and still have fun.
@Fireplug52
Ай бұрын
I played DMZ a few times, maybe about eight hours worth and though its potential was in the beginning amazing, that soon became a nightmare. So many times while playing with a team your were eliminated by what could be very suspicious activity and game play. The one factor that was important to me was the ability to play solo. After attempting that about five times and the possible suspicious game play by others, just as they eliminated me in the game, my interest in DMZ also died. It is about the money. Nothing more. In the current offering in MW3 in multiplayer coming up against those who have invested money in purchasing the various offerings by Activision, it has become either apparent or paranoia has set in that when encountering one of those players who have purchased the whiz bang accoutrements, even if you believe that the encounter was to your advantage, you were eliminated with the effects of their purchase. I am beginning to believe that those of us without the whiz bang effects will not win an encounter with those who have it. Just as EA has managed to kill a franchise, Battlefield, which I have a few thousand hours of play time, I do not play it anymore. The same with Apex Legends; after the ninth of tenth new character I stopped any play time with them and I got a lot of enjoyment from it. Activision has done the same for Call of Duty. You pay to win has been the straw that broke the camel back for me. My interest in COD was second to Battlefield but this goes back to 2007 and in that time I have played many versions of COD and my favorite was Black Ops 2. The zombies mode I did not get interested in until BO3 but since that time have over 5000 hours play it zombies. Black Ops 3 Zombies was the last one that made it fun. BO4 Zombies I still play and the other offerings of Zombies in some of the newer games is not worth the time. No interest. You think with the Black Ops 6 offering I would get excited. Its Treyarch and they were at one time a studio to emulate in quality and stories, but I am not going to waste my money or time with it. As a matter of fact, there is a no game I will more than likely play that will give me more enjoyment and not have to spend as much money; PowerWash Simulator. You thought I was going to write X-Defiant. Played it. To rich for my blood and besides there are to many rabbits.
@PERF88
Ай бұрын
I like your take, I don't buy the "the game wasn't profitable" reasoning either. It is crazy to think however with the amount of creators like you, myself, and many others (much bigger than us) and the following this game has, SOMEONE isn't taking notice of this.
@StealthyOleBoi
Ай бұрын
I plated this mode for months straight. The Serpentine Run is single handedly one of the most satisfying feelings I ever got unlocking a camo (it's my default camo across all weapons and the only one that has an obsidian texture if you look closely). Met a lot of dope people in this mode, met some of the absolute worst humanity had to offer, had some of the most infuriating rage to ever come over me trying to get obhectives and story bits done just to unlock passive upgrades. The one thing that always threw me in this mode was if you pull a finisher it would stop on the frame where u get the kill and it made them look super awkward, I ever discovered a glitch that let you keep 10 perks across all characters no matter the exfil streak. Point being, this mode meant a lot to me and I'm.always reminded of the pain and grind with my serp camo
@shadowshadnik
13 күн бұрын
Cold war was the first cod to have the fov slider for console. Warzone didn't get the fov update until mw2 (2022) was released. For some reason if you played warzone on console you had to deal with 80 fov even tho the multi-player for both Cold war and Vanguard had the setting...
@alec62va75
Ай бұрын
Even tho i hate being hunted down multiple times and i kept losing my stuff but I enjoyed playing this Mode and there was some rare moments where I met some Players who are chill and i am glad I able to make amazing memories when DMZ was released
@samsukii
Ай бұрын
The next DMZ will be featured in Delta Force: Hawk Ops, courtesy of TiMi Studios.
@nelzelpher7158
Ай бұрын
Death Note music is a good touch
@chronozeta
5 күн бұрын
Hope you read this bro, i'd like to add some things, as a multiplayer main i enjoyed a month or two of DMZ, but it got stale for me because the mode is not for me, not because it was bad. However, what IW did with MW2 and DMZ combined was bad for COD. And i'll explain. First of all, the MW2's movement and it's general mechanics were very out of place, and didn't fit the game. If you argue that its great for DMZ then i have no objections, but because it was applied to the WZ and MP it hurt the gameplay on that side of the game a lot. People got the perception that COD is now a milsim game, or it should be "tactical" and so on. CoD was never like that. Now combine this with the fact that they named the game Modern Warfare 2, which attracted a lot of "sentinels" with the nostalgia bait, there was barely anything in the game from MW2 at all, it was just a marketing gimmick in the end 🤦♂️ so all this lead to a lot of dudes in their 30s+ to hop in the game and get disappointed and throw tantrums. That group of people to this day still talking about things such as realism or "adhd kids" running around and ruining the game for them. The gameplay we saw in MW2 was obviously an experiment or a passion project that didnt work out. And it left all the grown midlife crisis having sentinel dudes still raging here and there in the community. I wish MW2 never happened as a whole although i enjoyed DMZ for some time.
@Adcts
12 күн бұрын
I always imagined it's because like how Treyarch's baby is Zombies (especially with how they supposedly gatekept Zombies from the other studios until Activision seemingly forced their hand), DMZ is also IW's baby. I can't imagine IW would allow SHG to just take over DMZ and maybe in their eyes ruin it or whatever petty shit. I wouldn't lose hope until IW announces their next game whenever that is. I remember well over a decade ago when Zombies was new and I & a lot of people were wondering if BO1 would even have Zombies. With MW3Z, I don't think they were lying when they said that specifically MWZ was the most successful MW side mode, I just think Treyarch weren't anticipating it to be a hit and didn't plan for much content or perhaps they couldn't because those resources would've defo gotten pulled into the next game (BO4 anyone?).
@raphaeltremblay8639
15 күн бұрын
I think the point you are trying to make is that some game mechanics didn’t translate well from Warzone and Cod in general to DMZ such as the backpacks? If that’s your main point I think it makes no sense for mild inconvenience such as these to be the cause of DMZ being abandoned. Here’s the reason that’s most likely for them to drop DMZ: MW3 Zombies. It’s pretty similar to DMZ. Main difference is that MW3 zombies is not free. 1) DMZ would have been competing with MW3Z. And people who would hesitate between the 2 would choose the free options most likely. 2) They knew how bad MW3 was and would sell. They needed to put every chances on their side so the game wouldn’t be a complete failure. So they abandoned DMZ and now if you want to get an updated version of this mode, you have to buy MW3. DMZ was competition at this point. 3) Having the 2 still being updated would get the player base more divided and so both of the extraction shooters from cod would look less popular. Not only that but they would have to update both games which means double the work (or close). Now I think they f ed up because people at this point won’t buy MW3. It’s almost a one year old cod game, not even to say a very bad one and a seemingly better cod is coming soon. There won’t be any new players on MW3Z so it will die pretty quick. DMZ would have remained free so there’s always this chance of new people already playing Warzone who want to try this other free mode. But it’s not getting updated anymore or getting you any rewards so what would be the point of picking it up at this point? It’s not just that they wanted to drop the extraction shooter genre. They literally made a new one at the same time they dropped DMZ. They wouldn’t have done that if they simply wanted to drop it completely. DMZ just got replaced by a non free alternative. And I won’t be the one paying for it
@Orokara
Ай бұрын
Great commentary ❤
@alexandreporter705
7 күн бұрын
I played a little of DMZ, I quit because I carried 2 shitbags, but they died, I killed almost everyone in another squad of 4 guys, one got me from behind. They ressurected my shit squadmate that did nothing, and my "squadmate" betrayed me and left me to die. Joined a squad that I had the trouble to almost wipe alone. I realised that DMZ is for psycopaths and left to never return. Maybe not a shit game mode, but full of shit rules (Squad of 6?). If a dev of DMZ ever read this, just know, your game mode deserved what it got.
@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu
Ай бұрын
I miss this game mode i was anticipating it pre release and i played it day 1
@christiancalixto9852
Ай бұрын
The first COD to add the fov was black OPS cold war but for wz it was mw2
@vaquero141
Ай бұрын
Dmz was my most played mode in mwii. It had a great feeling game and made you feel like a real operator. I hope it returns in IWs next game
@Jester_Penetrate1
Ай бұрын
I started playing warzone when wz2 was released and I loved dmz. Today I'm not playing as much as I used to, not because I got bored of it but because it's too sweaty. And I have to say I'm a sweaty player in warzone but when I play dmz I just want to feel like I'm playing an extraction shooter not a slower version of warzone with multiple bugs that destroys the game
@godboy.123
25 күн бұрын
Bro death Note sound got me😅
@chaozZX3
9 күн бұрын
Great video thanks! Can you do one on why MWZ was abandoned mid life cycle please 😂😂
@jermseventy8341
Ай бұрын
Who could have guessed that instead of making DMZ its own codebase and instead a literal cancer on everything else was a bad idea? I wouldn't be surprised if Call of Duty does go Tactical Shooter mode in a spin-off (Call of Duty Tactical Advantage?) and perhaps then DMZ could be made as its gimmick mode. If they gave a studio that project they could do stuff with the Call of Duty franchise that would be popularizing while other developers work on the actual mainline games and it would give casuals the option to do Warzones, Stick to the last game, or go tactical.
@iJobama
Ай бұрын
DMZ was a branch off of the free to play Warzone, not a 3rd mode to MW2. So in the post talking about MWZ recieving the most engagement of a 3rd mode in a MW game. It's only comparing it to Spec Ops in MW2019 and Spec Ops/Raids in MW2
@damirgegedrazenovic3969
Ай бұрын
modern multiplayer fps games are too hardcore to have fun for most players, DMZ was different, casual players had fun... is it ever coming back? no.. reason is: hardcore gaming brings more money cos it convinces players that they would be better in game if they buy this or that, and the only way they would even think of bringing DMZ back is if they find a way to sell you something over and over again during the lifetime of the game.. and they tried to do so by selling you shorter weapon cooldowns and better equipment at the same time they destroyed the game, and, realizied that they couldnt not return it as it was and its much easier to abandon this mode..
@anxboxharddrive9348
Ай бұрын
I see a lot of people who say. "DMZ is the Goat/Best thing ever created by the gaming industry" etc. I mean if you like camping then sure but then just say MWII was the GOAT
@averagenoob2.0
Ай бұрын
Great video also are you stoked for the Delta Force Alpha test
@indigoDMZ
Ай бұрын
I'm waiting for it, not hyped, Delta Force developers have never made a game of this scale (which in most cases ends up badly)
@3GsRuthless
Ай бұрын
DMZ got me into callof duty. Was fun until the pre planned 6 man teams started.
@dangerdang91
Ай бұрын
It was in MW3, they just changed the name to zombies
@murphine969
Ай бұрын
I’m only at the intro rn…but if you go on to talk about the relationship between Infinity Ward and Activision then I think you’re on the right track. DMZ has a massive following and they can’t say it wasn’t successful, I think it has to do with how much those companies hated each other.
@Zesksaken
15 күн бұрын
Respectfully i disagree with your argument that DMZ “almost killed cod”, its more so management’s “unification” of the experiences and developers being spread too thin across too many different things (MP, BR, DMZ, Spec Ops, SP) it wasnt DMZ, this is an argument that the streamers use because they couldn’t slide cancel. I think none of MWII’s components truly lived up to their full potential because of this, DMZ wasn’t an exception, eventually they shut it down because it was part of the MWII ecosystem and it’s more tactical (still very casual) style didnt fit with the hyperspeed of MWIII and the current warzone iteration. What i agree with this video is sadly the ending because yes, there will NEVER be anything like DMZ ever again, indie studios are still endlessly remaking the same realistic tactical milsim hardcore shooter “game” over and over, none to last more than 10-15 days post launch before losing all relevancy and AAA studios still want to copy fortnite, as proven by the leaks that Battlefield is making a F2P battle royale, and CoD likely wont do this anymore cause it doesnt make as much money as warzone, cause DMZ had big problems being monetized, as shown by P2W features. As much as i would love for BO6 to try again and make another DMZ that would fit into the Black Ops setting, they wont, as much as i’d like Battlefield to try its shot at a proper extraction mode its not in any position to do it and they should focus on the multiplayer and scrap the BR entirely. So effectively the closest we might get is Delta Force and nothing else, DMZ was a one time experience.
@gimligloin8439
11 күн бұрын
DMZ was the best part of MW2 but I agree it lacked depth. Once I stopped playing it and moved to Resurgence I didn't go back. It remains special for me however.
@bananamanfrl
Ай бұрын
Cold War and VG had FOV sliders
@FiFaRdoH.
Ай бұрын
amazing video man, 24 minutes totally worth of good researched info, loved the concepts and how u explained and showed everything and where you found it, keep it up and fr nice deep dive tried DMZ back in the day, didn't like it cuz I got my ass sprayed the shit out of me + mwii movement lol, but good mode overall
@DoomyRei
Ай бұрын
I hate slide canceling and bunny hopping
@jeffy225
11 күн бұрын
Get good kid
@DoomyRei
11 күн бұрын
@jeffy225 no that's not how cod is supposed to be bunny hopping was never in classic cod
@jeffy225
7 күн бұрын
@@DoomyRei er nah
@Nazrat84
Ай бұрын
6:22 MWIII's existence debunks this tho, given it had a relatively short production time of a little over a year, starting in the middle of Season 5 of Vanguard and getting *faster* in response to the criticisms facing MWII's movement. A dev at one point (I forgot who) mentioned the creative decisions behind MWII were deliberate and in response to Warzone steering away from "the roots of Warzone" that Treyarch and Sledgehammer brought to the fold, so the only logical conclusion there is that the movement was done in response to how people exploited the systems Warzone 1, which Raven went onto encourage. 12:02 This is also not true in the slightest. This is something a developer stated to defend the game on Twitter, but was debunked by a dataminer who revealed the red dots are a per-gamemode toggle, and Infinity Ward purposefully disabled the ability to enable them for the end user. This is corroborated by XclusiveAce who was able to play MWII in a private play session earlier, where him and many other content creators praised IW for having red dots, only for a notable frustrated dev to forcible stop the session and disable the feature for every player. The ability to have red dots is not tied to the code or engine, it's a function built into it they don't want people to access.
@zacharywest3740
Ай бұрын
It’s honestly just lazy and rushed that they didn’t code separate mechanics for DMZ. But it does make sense because they already had to code mechanics for multiplayer and single player. COD should bring back round based zombies and DMZ 😂
@yeetbobok2852
Ай бұрын
DMZ was the reason why I even played mw2 the chaos that was created it was like a show you didn’t know what happened next until you get there when they ended support I was going to quit but didn’t as fortnite was dead to me and I’m on last gen Xbox so I can’t get any newer games so I was forced to play but dmz was still enjoyable even with the glitches and the sweats
@gourdbox
Ай бұрын
Once they pull the DMZ servers I can finally get my life back.
@knolsey
Ай бұрын
call of duty had more players at this time last year than it does today. DMZ also out performed MWZ. right now more people are playing DMZ than Urzikstan, and MWZ. MWZ was popular for four days, then it tanked. DMZ is still being worked on within the live code right now. i have a whole video breaking this down in whole. what happened was Infinity Ward refused to let SHG destroy DMZ, and the suits wanted zombies. that's it. also DMZ was originally supposed to drop with MW2019, but they could not reach the deadline.
@misterymisterio8778
19 күн бұрын
If only allow us to play solo private matches.
@Fckituppp
Ай бұрын
infinity ward clearly want to make a super tactical game lol
@changye9604
7 күн бұрын
You could tell it was meant to be a tactical shooter. Down to the map design. But the call of duty fanbase clearly doesn't like tactical shooters.
@dannydavideos8106
Ай бұрын
Shipment and DMZ best at ever
@bigd2quick724
Ай бұрын
The "community" ruined this game mode and now you are complaining cause your bored 😂😂😂😂
@michaelsaunders4557
Ай бұрын
It just didn’t make enough money. It was clearly a top tier casual experience
@deathrow5261
Ай бұрын
As a DMZ fan as far as I know sledgehammer don’t have permission to continue DMZ along with the fact that mostly they care about warzone and didn’t think that they needed to bring it which is stupid
@Trouble_Makerz
Ай бұрын
Black ops sound track in the back 👊
@odst_stone
19 күн бұрын
I actually liked DMZ because it was PvPvE
@Cholo-zg6xy
Ай бұрын
Best small streamer ever
@conor-_C
Ай бұрын
I wonder how dmz would do now if released on its own
@Kurowuf
Ай бұрын
Is it even possible to reverse engineer the game? That way a team can use it or release it as new game for the community. Btw, really good video.
@bekerashes
Ай бұрын
I love how Scandinavian countries are completely assimilated by United States lmao
@romabrahimi4072
Ай бұрын
Losing DMZ IS LIKE HELL TO ME 😢
@Jonyi100
Ай бұрын
i startet to play cod in mw2 season 4 at the start i thought it woud be a nice gamemode pve/pvp. But i realized quickly that this mode wasnt something for me. I tried to play more pve because i wanted the upgrades for my account. But i never reached it. Missions like activate 2 anti air stations in ashika island was nearly impossible after activating complete player squads swarm you and dont rezz you. After 2 min of the game start you already had a bounty on you. and not to forget the huge ammount of cheaters in this mode. People only played this mode to get some easy pvp kills.
@Ironcoremagma
Ай бұрын
It makes sense, given how slow the game plays.
@suna9555
17 күн бұрын
Ngl Zombies over DMZ all day everyday. I don’t care for getting sniped by a 40 year old dad who sat on a building and shot me 80 yards away all while I’m doing a challenge for a skin or blueprint. DMZ was so boring getting killed by rooftop campers and then having your body watched for almost the whole game by a full team preventing you from getting your stuff it was just so boring bruh, I could never understand wanting to play that snail paced game mode, I’m glad it got left behind. Basically Warzone for grandpas with no skill and no reaction times at all just able to snipe and camp your items. I absolutely despised playing it.
@fhaithful
Ай бұрын
DMZ should have been its own spinoff, a separate cod IP
@jeremybrown9611
Ай бұрын
Activision never said MWZ was the most popular mode in CoD History. It was one of the most popular modes in recent years. WZ and Zombie Chronicles are still higher
@trippyracks6837
Ай бұрын
They said something along the lines of it being the most popular third mode in MW history. It’s irrelevant for DMZ, as DMZ didn’t launch when MWII launched, it launched a month later as a WZ game mode. Therefore DMZ is excluded as it didn’t launch with a MW game + it was considered a WZ game mode at the time. MWZ was against spec ops and that’s it. Modern day spec ops is absolutely terrible by the way.
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