The R7 SHOULD be the logical camera to go to when shooting wildlife, but my experience so far suggest that is not that simple. The benefits of having a crop sensor camera are two-fold: 1. The smaller sensor produces a smaller field of capture, resulting in an image that when blown up to a size equal to that of a FF unit appears to be magnified as the subject fills more of the frame compared to a FF unit with the same lens. This has disadvantages when using wide-angle lenses, but benefits in terms of what appears to be a magnification effect with telephoto lenses. 2. Pixel density with a crop sensor body. Up to a certain point, a crop sensor may render more pixel per sq. mm, compared to an equal FF unit which may give benefits. The king of Canon APS-C bodies was the venerable 7DII, and one would expect that the R7 would be a successor to that unit. It's not. It's a replacement for the 90D, which is designed for a different market. So, not a pro-level body but one aimed at more at enthusiasts or consumers. The R7 does inherit the brilliant focusing system of the R3, which is outstanding. However, there are things that I find less encouraging. As you mentioned the shutter - 30 FPS on electronic sounds impressive - but it has MASSIVE shutter lag at that rate, which will render SERIOUS issues with distortion for wildlife and sports enthusiasts. Pity, since the electronic shutter is silent: unlike the mechanical shutter that does not show that effect, but sounds like a tinker's cart. However, unlike the electronic shutter, at least it doesn't fill the buffer in about 1.2 secs of RAW shooting! Other issues for consideration. It is not fully weather-sealed (for some folks that is an issue as we can't all pack up and go home when the weather turns to custard), it has no battery grip and that's a shame as the grip not only provides instant access to the extra battery capacity, but provides controls for portrait-mode shooting, and helps balance the super light body when using heavier telephoto lenses - bringing the camera C of G back towards the body. I shoot with R5 and R6 units, and I was sincerely looking forward to the R7 as a replacement for my 7DII unit, but I shall have to wait for another model. This IS a good entry-mid level camera for those looking for an economical entry into Canon's MILC range, but it's mis-named - perhaps they should have called it the R70...
@tobygroves2112
2 жыл бұрын
You neglected to mention the biggest advantage, Pixels Per Duck. If reach is a factor, as it often is with wildlife and birds, the R7 offers 32MP on a crop sensor, whereas the R6 is only 20.1MP and, in the equivalent crop mode, only offers around 7.8MP. The R7 thus gives you four times as many Pixels Per Duck :)
@kaydawgy1999
2 жыл бұрын
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@NECPER
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. I am a R6 shooter, and I can use my lenses an batteries on an R7 as well. And that is my choice and my price range. I am sure an R1 will be better, but my finansial advisor (my wife) probably won’t let me go that crazy. Cheers -Per
@seantheo
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the r7 for the last week and i can say that the buffer can be hit pretty quick when set for 30 fps. I have been either shooting short bursts or just using the 15 fps for the majority. The autofocus is on point. I even have the case study on auto and it is fast and sticky to the subjects (birds). It is worth it. The ability to use my rf lenses with the crop is awesome. The internal crop costs me megapixels on my r6/r5 and the r7 does not. I love it for birding.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
2 жыл бұрын
I use my R6 with my 600mm II lens and I love it. Even with the TC it does a good job. Would you say the AF is similar? Let’s say I stick with mechanical shutter. You think it’s just as good as the R6? I thought about moving my R6 to my landscape portrait work but don’t want to bother if it’s hindered. Thanks!
@seantheo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife they are similar enough. I think that the r7 seems to stay with the subjects easier. I'm not sure what is different other than it inherited it's system from the r3. It has subject detect which just shows what the camera is thinking you want to lock onto which is helpful with multiple birds.... all that being said the low light ability of the r6 is way better. I use my r6 for any freelance work I've done because if this. If I had a 600mm f4 I would choose that with teleconverters over the r7 because if the noisy lowlight performance.... basically the autofocus is slightly improved but the handicap is that with higher iso we may be losing details that we want for birding if it isn't a bright day.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
2 жыл бұрын
@@seantheo thanks, that helps a lot. One thing I will say is the R6 with my 600mm is very strange. For instance, it can sometimes struggle to focus on slow moving shorebirds walking with the 2x tc while I was shocked when I was handholding my 600 with the 2x, it focused very well on the flying skimmers. I think the issue was the shorebirds were against the gray sand on the ground, whereas the skimmers were black and white with the shore and sky behind them. I noticed this also when I photographed black and white dogs, for some reason those colors are easy to lock on. So many combinations is hard to judge an AF system I realize. I did also pick up a 100-500L and I definitely feel the direct RF connection is better AF on the R6. And of course that makes sense. In the future I will probably sell my big 600mm and get the 800mm f5.6. But other than the light weight, it’s not magnificently better, as the 600mm II image quality is unmatched really. I didn’t know the R3 had the same AF as the R7. I guess as long as the battery power is enough to not cause issues. I would like to see if you use a battery grip with the R7 if it helps AF. It might!
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
Impressive that you've managed to get hold of an R7 already
@seantheo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife yeah I have the 100-500mm and it is amazing! It is always my go too. Yeah it "inherited" the r3 auto focus... so it doesn't have all of it but enough to be really helpful. You can adjust zone sizes too! I can see it being extremely helpful.... I usually go with the 1.4x cause I have noticed it doesn't slow the af down as much as the 2x... one thing that is awesome about the r7 is that the 600 & 800 f11 lenses have a bigger af area with the crop sensor which will make BIF so much easier to track than on the full frame. I'll be sticking to that combo with those lenses as long as the lighting is good and I am still saving for the 400 f2.8 or 600 f4... do you think that the rf400 2.8 will be good with the teleconverters or saving longer for the rf600 someday? I figured that the 400 would be the same apertures w/ teleconverters as the 600 & 800 rf lenses. Maybe af will be a tad slower but it would work out the same reach.
@LeCitadin1960
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob for this video. I was lucky enough to get my hand on an R7 the day they were out in Canada. I already own an R6 and my R7 will be used alongside my R6 for clients shoots as well as being a good backup camera. So far I did some tests in low light and high ISO to validate the presence and the amount of noise. From 800 ISO and up, there is more noise than on the R6, which is quite understandable. At least I know the R6 can handle those low light situations if need be. For the R7, Topaz DeNoise AI does a good job on RAW files when there is too much noise.
@paullanoue5228
2 жыл бұрын
I have and R6 and I ordered an R7. Two different cameras for different situations. The R7 is a great RF lens extender and you don’t lose a stop. The R7 has a better focusing system for subjects like birds in flight. It also shoots 30 frames per second. The R7 has extended debt of field which is a plus for shooting macro. When the light gets low the R6 can take over and do a great job. Also the R6 is a jack of trades. A great all around performer.
@rreichar1
2 жыл бұрын
I am using my R7 for birds. I’ve been using the R6 for 15 or 16 months. I think if I had to choose one it would be the R7. It’s difficult to add reach without going to a much larger and more expensive lens. My RF 100-500mm is 800mm equivalent. I use my R6 with the grip and the since getting the R7 I have appreciated the lighter setup. I recorded a video a few nights ago in our kitchen. A 4K Fine video at 24fps ran for 2hrs 14minutes. Here in central Texas my R6 recently overheated while out shooting birds. I wasn’t shooting video but it was over 100 degrees Fahrenheit here and I was in the sun much of the time. It didn’t stop shooting photos but it flashed the red overheating warning constantly. I have been using the R7 for a week in similar heat with no issues. Rolling shutter is an issue. I have not had any problem with the noise. I use noise reduction in my normal workflow so it isn’t an issue. Having much many more megapixels on the birds is really a big positive. I would have preferred a better sensor, EVF, and buffer but none of those things are deal breakers. I am not a professional and 90% of my shooting is birds so I may sell the R6 on to the next person. If I were a wedding photographer I would keep it.
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
Good info thank you
@kevinhumphries763
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. I was undecided but think I will go for an R7. A Lot has been said about its lack of battery grip. However, I use an R6 without a grip and an R with and had no issues and it only takes seconds to throw a new battery in 👍
@MMBParent
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the R6 and love it for its eye-autofocus and its low light performance. The 20 mp sensor, however, is really not great for bird photography where you need to crop quite a bit. I did some math and it seems that the R7 will put 4x the number of pixels on an object (like a bird) than with the R6, assuming the same lens. This should help with quality of cropped images. I've also read that the F11 lenses have a wider autofocus zone in the R7 than in the R6. I'm seriously looking at the R7 for birding.
@messylaura
2 жыл бұрын
i was about to say the same, with wildlife the R7 is about dumping your biggest lens on it and getting the most pixels on target, only down side to that at the moment is the 150-600mm sigma ihas pulsing issues on auto focus so until sigm work out a fix for that its a no atm on the R7 Daude Paton has tested this combo on his channel and mentions the af servo pulsing along with sigma saying that yes the lens is not comparable with the RF servo, and i thik that is on the R6 and R5 as well but i not totally sure there
@frankanderson5012
2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently using the R7 alongside the R6 and if I had to choose between them, as a wildlife photographer, I would choose the R6. I got the R7 to complement the R6 and use it where it has the advantage, but the R6 has many advantages over it. Low light, there's no competition although those files you downloaded made the R7 seem much worse than it is. 30fps has limited use if you can only shoot for a few seconds and I've quickly found I prefer 15fps anyway. Rolling shutter is much better on the R6. The main reason for getting the R7 for me as a wildlife photographer, was the crop sensor reach. I've yet to really get to grips on the focusing system on the R7 to see if it's as good or better than the R6, but the R6 is already fantastic.
@aidanensley3245
2 жыл бұрын
if i'm not mistaken the r7 literally has the same autofocus system as the r3 which isn't even much of a competition to the r6
@abielerickson509
2 жыл бұрын
how did you get your hands on an r7? did you use an online shop or did you find a local camera shop?
@Gazzab6
2 жыл бұрын
@@aidanensley3245 It’s inherited the AF system of the R3, i.e., the same list of subjects but it is nowhere near as accurate and consistent as the R3.
@alansach8437
2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing the same, and feel the same. When you need the reach, you need the reach. Otherwise R6 all the way.
@bikash3003
2 жыл бұрын
Should I downgrade from EOS R6 TO EOS R7??
@iamsomewhere
2 жыл бұрын
I just sent back my R7. Not impressed with the image quality at all. 😕 R6 for now, until something else comes out between the R5 and R6.
@alanm.4298
2 жыл бұрын
Why would I buy an R7 instead of an R6? - It's $1000 cheaper. - R7 is APS-C, ideal for telephoto work. - R7 has faster frame rates for action. - R7 has slightly better AF. - R7 is 32.5MP vs R6's 20MP. - R7 gets nearly 2X shots per charge. Why would I buy an R6 instead of R7? - R6 is full frame, better wide angle. - R6 has better EVF. - R6 has higher usable ISO. - R6 is better in low light. - R6 can be fitted with battery grip. Concerns about one or the other or both: - The electronic shutter on both are susceptible to rolling shutter issues. Chelsea and Tony Northrup felt the R7's 30 fps e-shutter was unusable for birds in flight. This will also limit it's usefulness for sports. - Further, the "pre-shot" feature that captures 15 frames BEFORE you pressed the shutter, which would be most useful for fast action, reportedly only works with the e-shutter. - Can't say about the R6, but apparently the R7's buffer fills awfully quickly and can be slow to clear. Shooting RAW you would get just a couple seconds with the mechanical shutter and about 1 sec with the e-shutter. The Northrups demonstrated this (not my favorite reviewers, but we take what we can get at this point). - Another KZitemr I corresponded with got 3000 shots out of his R7 battery over a 4 or 5 hour shoot. His daughter got over 4000 on a 2nd camera. They were "birding", mostly perched, some BIF. I imagine they were both doing a lot of bursts at max speed to rack up so many shots so fast (as most of us would do first time out with such a camera😎) - Durability? Canon hasn't told us how many shutter actuations we can expect with R7. They say it's comparable to build of 90D in other ways, and that camera is rated to do 120,000 clicks. The 7D Mark II is rated to do 200,000. Best guess, R7 is somewhere in that range. But shooting a lot at 15 fps (or 30 fps), the "mileage" will rack up pretty fast! EDIT: In the days since I posted the above response I've seen more reviews and corresponded with a couple R7 users who report little problem with the R7 and rolling shutter shooting birds and wildlife. There can be rolling shutter distortions, but they often are obscured in the natural world. People viewing the image won't notice the distortions. I suspect it would be more of an issue shooting sports, where the effects will probably be more obvious with out of shape balls, bent bats, leaning goal posts, etc. Also have heard someone questioned Canon about durability ratings and were told that the company felt shutter count was no longer useful with mirrorless since there are far fewer moving parts and electronic shutter would add to the count even though the mechanical shutter was inactive. I suspect increased video use would also be a factor, since a video can mean far more active time for the components, even though it only counts as a single actuation. One heavy user of R-series for birding has commented that the R7's AF system struggles in low light conditions more than his other R-series (two R5 and an R3). He reverts to the full frame cameras very early or late in the day or when shooting in gloomy forests.
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
Great comment 👍
@Glyn_Stevens_Photography
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, watched this video before I went out to do some sports photography. I live in South Australia so the main winter sport is Australian Rules Football the game has 4 quarters of any where between 25 and 30 minutes each (extra time is added for stoppages) the size of the ground is about the size of a large cricket oval eg MCG or Adelaide Oval. There 36 players (18 per side) plus umpires on the field. I used my Canon R6 with a sigma 150 to 500 lense. You mentioned about the battery life. I thought I would share my experience my personal preference is to shoot both Jpeg and Raw. I had no issues with buffering or over heating ( I did a lot of burst shooting. In total I shot 1172 Jpegs and 1172 Raw images and the battery did not require changing Thanks for your channel Glyn - now to short through 1172 photos
@ArcanePath360
2 жыл бұрын
The R7 does not replace the R6 at all when it comes to IQ. You can tell immediately the difference between the two when looking at photos they take. It's like night and day. Which is why one cost a grand more. I really like the IQ of the R6 but love the features and price of the R7. Also there's the 30 minute recording limit that they took away. They should make a firmware update for the R6 and R5 which takes this limit away. I currently have the 1DXii and 6D and have been looking to replace or add to them for a long time. I'm still waiting.
@unknownKnownunknowns
Жыл бұрын
Good info. Can you be more specific about the IQ comparison? Curios to know you view
@ArcanePath360
Жыл бұрын
@@unknownKnownunknowns TBH it all depends what you are shooting. If wildlife and you are cropping your final image, then the R7 IQ is actually better, because of the higher pixel count. The R6 would need to be 80 megapixel to keep up with it, if cropping on that. It all depends what lens you are sticking on them too. They really are different beasts for different styles of photography so perhaps a comparison isn't fair. You have to choose one based on what you need it for
@cerealkiller4248
2 жыл бұрын
I finally upgraded this year from my original 7D. I’ve literally waited since 2015ish got Canon to pull its finger out and provide us with a worthy replacement. The 7D2 wasn’t enough of an upgrade for me, the 90D AF wasn’t for my needs either so early this year I caved in and got an R6. The main thing for me was the crop factor, and I can honestly say I don’t miss it, but I do have the 500/4.
@joseribeiro9564
2 жыл бұрын
i went exaclty in that route, i have the older version of the 500 f4 and is a shame that fps dont go to spec, on the other hand, focus accuracy totally compensates for the lackluster 10fps, at the end of the day i have much more keepers. The 90D is basically collecting dust, never liked the autofocus system nor the results at high ISO, it can make a nice video camera beeing on par with the R6 as far as specs go
@cerealkiller4248
2 жыл бұрын
#some One I really like it, it really is night and day difference in ISO. I’ve not put my 1.4xTC once, I don’t feel the need to. I’ve been injury struck almost since the day I had it so haven’t done a walk around session with it yet, I was feeding the birds and just shooting on the patio until the rats turned up. Then SWMBO made me move it to the perimeter of our property so it’s now approx 80m away ☹️
@Bad_Wolf_Media
2 жыл бұрын
Before I even hit play, the answer to the question posed in the title is, for me, simple: $1,499 vs. $2,499 I have other reasons of my own, too, but that one there? That's the biggest answer to "why" for me.
@Bad_Wolf_Media
2 жыл бұрын
Now if I can just get Canon to send some to Adorama and then Adorama to send me mine!
@martinhommel9967
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the R7, I bought it for it's 15 fps mechanical shutter. 30 fps has a bit of rolling shutter issue as can be expected with electronic shutters and fast moving subjects. Overheating is not going to be a problem for me, in my opinion it's one of those issues used to create controversy.
@LatinLegacyNY
2 жыл бұрын
For me, it’s simple. Use the R7 when I need that extra reach with my longer lenses and I’m not doing any landscape/infrastructure photography. The R6 gets used for pretty much everything else.
@robertlawrence7958
2 жыл бұрын
1/16000 sec shutter? I live in Wales Rob. The only likelihood of getting enough light to use that kind of shutter speed will be if someone lets off an atomic blast!! 30 frames a second. The buffer is rubbish so that isn't much use. I do not want to spend time on computer cleaning up files from high iso images (I ditched my 7D mkii for that reason). For me the ergonomics differ too much from the R6. I have bitten the bullet and purchased a second R6 body. Even though I have gone out on a limb to buy a second R6, I do fully appreciate and sympathise with all of those people (myself included) who have a pretty strict budget. Personally I would love to have two R3 bodies but that is way out of my budget. As a wildlife and sport shooter who is coming up to retirement I am currently looking to gather together all the kit I need to see me through retirement. The gear I get now will have to last me pretty much forever and so I'm going to do my best to get what I really need to do what I want to do.
@michaellekas27
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob excellent video as always. I know a lot of people are worried about the High ISO performance of the r7. I just recently received my r7. I compared it with my r5. But rather than taking my word I strongly suggest everybody view a KZitem video titled “ Canon r7 vs r5 ISO performance Wildlife Photography “ by Wild Alaska. A very thorough and in-depth analysis. And I totally agree with his findings
@vividstudio4651
7 ай бұрын
My R6 cooked itself at 8am on a mild sunny morning after 17 minutes while filming. Audio crumbled and died at 14 minutes. The overheating was very real. I've ditched it for video, too many footage failures. R7 might be the go to for stills.
@lancelot222
2 жыл бұрын
So what is or are your reasons for buying the R7 to go alongside the R6?
@harrisongould9460
2 жыл бұрын
I have two R6's and I ordered a R7 for this reason...the reach. When using the 70-200 f2.8 on a R7 and one crops the output to the same pixel dimensions as the R6, the lens turns into a 140-400mm f2.8. I now have a 400mm f2.8 lens in my arsenal for the low low price of $1,499. See my point?
@vikramyerneni
2 жыл бұрын
Really, thats how it works?? I really dont know the logic and this is a genuine question. I own a R6.
@spyder000069
2 жыл бұрын
I am just a hobbyist and have a GH5. Its been a great camera and enjoyed collecting lenses and gear. I've become one with the GH5 manual focus but always hear how great the canon gear is. I wanted to wait for a camera that could do 4K (without overheating) but also have a larger sensor for a step up in photographs. In my collection is a sigma 18-35 that was used with the GH5 on a speed booster and since that lens was natively for aps-c I decided the R7 having that style sensor meant I at least had an extra lens that could move forward with me (with the adapter). The price point of the camera body made jumping platforms a little easier to dip a toe in the water. I've only had the R7 for a few days but I have done comparisons and found that the photos were slightly better than my gh5 once you pixel peep and the autofocus is pretty amazing. The GH5 in my opinion has the better menu system but I'm sure after I have had more time with the canon system it will be less frustrating. So in summary I was looking to take my micro 4/3 experience and complete it with better autofocus and maybe a little better low light without breaking the bank. Many of the reviews are comparing the R7 to higher end cameras but seems many do not address those who are 'upgrading' from 4/3.
@eliasmustonen
Жыл бұрын
I have Canon eos R but I'm thinking of buying another camera along side with it. Should I buy the R7 or invest more on the R6? It's a hard choise, my budget is not that big
@rainerflucke1378
2 жыл бұрын
Well of course the r7 is going to be a success and a great camera, but hey, whether r6 or r7 - it,s all about whether you want fullframe or Not
@mikedavis5099
2 жыл бұрын
All excellent points and I agree 100%.
@billyinwaves
2 жыл бұрын
The other main difference is the extra reach you get when changing the same lens from the R6 to the R7. Running the R6 and R7 as a pair makes a lot of sense to me because any one lens with both gets you a greater focal range. The R7 with a RF 70-200 fitted gets you out to 200 x 1.6 = 320mm. Use the older EF mount 70-200 with an adapter then you can add a 2X converter and that'll get you reach of 640mm at f5.6 Plus I'd probably use the R6 for low light stuff and the R7 for fast shutter daylight sports.
@panfilomarinucci4788
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, thanks for your excellent videos! I look forward to your impressions when you will have had the chance to test the R7! I received mine a few days ago and so far it seems perfect for my intended use as a second camera to complement my R5 and have the 1.6X crop for wildlife . The autofocus is fast and accurate and the IQ is excellent. The noise on correctly exposed files seems to be only a bit more than with the R5 (noisier than the R6). Full Raw files are 35-40 Mb and in H+ if you just keep your finger on the shutter you will soon fill the buffer. Shooting with intermittent short bursts at 15fps (still faster than my old 1DX!) works fine for me. Using the fastest writing V90 cards helps. You can set the camera to make a sound when shooting in electronic. This gives better control and avoids taking loads of unwanted shots. (saving some buffer). Overall I think it is great value for money...
@martinstocks8992
2 жыл бұрын
i have the 90d 32mp and r6 and the quality of pics on my r6 are a lot better dont no why mabye its the full frame with the back ground compression looks more pro to me and i hope the in side hold up my shutter broke pretty quick and build quality wasnt as good as my r6 and the sound of the shutter on the r7 dosnt give me confidence that it will hold up long term
@andrewelder2739
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!! So does the R6 have any advantages, besides being full frame? Or is that really what the price comes down to?
@adrianzaharia8885
2 жыл бұрын
I had the R6 for 3 days...sold it! I had to film a car show for to days in july. It overheated on me from 5 to 5 minutes in 4k and in 1080p. Useless camera. Went back to my trusty BM 6K Pro.
@Colorado4x4
Жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Say, I have $1,700 for a new body. Outdoor soccer. I’m ok with a better DSLR too. R7, 1DX II, 5D IV, or something else? what would you recommend? I’ve got the glass already.
@Technologyadvisor1
Жыл бұрын
i think the question is do you buy a r5 or a r7 and r6 ?
@johnbelancik1600
Жыл бұрын
Rob, Have you run into any freezing/locking of the R7 while shooting high speed? Also, do you use any aftermarket batteries? Thanks, Happy Holidays! -JB
@jarlathmcnee3833
2 жыл бұрын
I am definitely getting the R7 as I am working up the levels on my sports and wildlife photography. My local camera shop is doing a trade in day at the end of the month so whatever I get for my rebel T7i and a couple of lenses will help! I would love a video on the difference between shooting mechanical vs digital shutters. Both my cameras now are dslr so would like to see/learn more. Thank you
@BR7Fan71
2 жыл бұрын
Don't use electronic shutter for sports. It has bad roiling shutter. I'm not sure if Canon fixed it yet. Check out Tony and Chelsea video on the R7. They have they have photos to show
@BR7Fan71
2 жыл бұрын
Don't use electronic shutter for sports. It has bad roiling shutter. I'm not sure if Canon fixed it yet. Check out Tony and Chelsea video on the R7. They have the have photos to show
@SchardtCinematic
Жыл бұрын
I Love my Canon 90D and my new R7. Those two are all I need. I also have a Canon 5D mark III I don't even use anymore.
@PauloOtago
2 жыл бұрын
Having just bought the R6; thus was a good video to watch. Thanks.
@nicolenc2140
11 ай бұрын
Agree. For a few reasons, I actually like R7 better than R6.
@davidbarr9475
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Rob, my question is the rolling shutter on the r7. I watched a video of a burst at 30 fps of a baseball bat being swung and it looked like a banana. As did a volleyball being hit was completely distorted and oblong. I'm still on the fence with the r6 or r7. Or save a couple years and get the r5. Appreciate your information.
@chankwanting
2 жыл бұрын
That rolling shutter with the electronic shutter make it unusable for moving subjects so we're really talking 15fps on the mechanical shutter. And JPEG if you're shooting burst.
@amberfilart3160
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, what’s the best ‘budget’ camera body if you want to start sports photography?
@audrymorningstar
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have one question that is most important to me as an event photographer, is it with the EF-EFS lens adapter in video photography Decreases the number of frames from 50 to 25 as in the camera R ? And thanks for the video, I really liked
@markk2473
2 жыл бұрын
I currently use two R6 bodies. I’m considering trading/selling one to replace with R7. For me I can make use of the extra reach and megapixels with the RF100-500. And I have had situations where the 30 minute record limit effects my ability to capture events. (I did work around it using a 2 camera setup). I’m also curious about the 6k down sample of the R7. And as an R6 user I have suffered a bit of overheating. Never a full shutdown but it has made me nervous and actually prompted me to get a second body.
@riddleuncc
2 жыл бұрын
So my question is, I have an R5 and 5DIV. Looking to sell my 5DIV and picking up an R6 or R7. I've realized after shooting with the R5, with the EVF, I can see the subject so much better. I do good bit of work in auditoriums, where lighting is low, except for the stage which is super bright. Like the benefits of each, R6 would be another FF, however the R7 has some benefits too. I'm not too worried about the noise of the R7, DeepPrime is out and supports the R7. I've downloaded the Polin and Wegner files and processed, the R7 files are much improved with DXO DP.
@ibjensen1958
2 жыл бұрын
i got the R6 and i bought the R7 because off the speed and the crop factor(cant afford canons big prime lenses) i have the 100-500mm rf tele i doo birds i had the R7 about 7 days now i think when the birds is not too far away there is no big difference when the birds is far away there is a big difference(when i have too crop the picture ) in the pictures ,here is the R6 a lot better than the R7 ,i was realy impressed of the auto focus on the R7 it is great
@ChannelWright
2 жыл бұрын
I need the R7 for video - the R6 has never been very good at that - too many limitations, not the least of which is overheating.
@markkempton4579
2 жыл бұрын
Wait. I thought you couldn't use flash with the electronic shutter on the R series.
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
With the electronic first curtain shutter you can on R6
@ElPescadoMan
2 жыл бұрын
I just got the R7 to compliment my R6. And I found tha Af on the R7 to be better than my R6. I went out with the R6+R 100-400 f5.6-8 the af kept jumping around and I had to use flexible spot to capture the subject. Then I took the R7 when I got it also with the Rf 100-400 f5.6-8 and I could use wide area af and it would find the subject eith no issues. Plus the 32mp come handy when you have to crop a little without losing to much quality.
@wingedpursuitoutfitters4962
2 жыл бұрын
I have an R6, mainly used for sports, and was looking at adding the R7 as an extra camera so I don't have to constantly change lenses, don't want to spend the money to get another R6, so I really appreciate your perspective and thoughts on the R7.
@RichieColemanSr
Жыл бұрын
How is that working for you?
@adamdutka2293
Жыл бұрын
@@RichieColemanSr I wish I would have just bought another R6. The low light of the R6 seems to be much better, the ease of changing settings on the R6 is better, I believe the R6 has an extra wheel vs the R7, the picture quality is even better. I got sucked in by the cheaper cost, and got a cheaper camera...which was to be expected. Going to buy another R6 or R5 in the new year and will look to give the R7 to someone just starting out. R7 isn't a bad camera, but in my hands isn't nearly as good as the R6. I don't pull the R7 out of the bag if I don't have too, which isn't good.
@RichieColemanSr
Жыл бұрын
@@adamdutka2293 Thanks for the honest feedback.
@RichieColemanSr
Жыл бұрын
@@adamdutka2293 I wonder if I should add an R6 with my R6 Mark ii.
@redpillnibbler4423
Жыл бұрын
@@adamdutka2293 Do you shoot landscapes?
@cooloox
2 жыл бұрын
That raw burst mode is not as good as you might think. There is a similar raw burst mode on the M6 Mk II which works the same way, but gives a 1.3x crop, resulting in 18MP raw files. The problem is that it seems to be more of a video mode! You shoot a burst and get one file with a timeline, just like a video. You cannot command it to extract all frames to raw files, you have to literally one-by-one extract raw files and it's tedious as all hell. There are multiple mouse clicks per image extraction. I tried it a few times and stopped using it.
@messylaura
2 жыл бұрын
The R7 is about dumping your biggest lens on it and getting the most pixels on target, only down side to that at the moment is the 150-600mm sigma i has pulsing issues on auto focus so until sigma work out a fix for that its a no atm on the R7 Daude Paton has tested this combo on his channel and mentions the af servo pulsing along with sigma saying that yes the lens is not comparable with the RF servo, and i thik that is on the R6 and R5 as well but i not totally sure there. also for me the R7 seems like its a tester crop to see how people like it, there are things not present on the R7 that should have been like the BSI sensor and quad pixel af
@lumenetumbra4223
Жыл бұрын
I own a 7D mark II and still I can't understand if I should upgrade to R6 or R7 for soccer photography (especially about buffer depth and buffer clear times + AF speed)
@RobSambles
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you'll see a test from me comparing 7dii to R7 very soon
@groundhoppingwlkp3622
Жыл бұрын
I have 7dmk2 too. I had in hands both R6 and R7. Both didn't impressed me by image quality. R6 have better IQ but it's only 20 mpx so you can't crop much. R7 noise is even bigger than in 7dmk2, and you have no "FF look" (compression of backround, bokeh etc). So I'm still waiting, maybe there will be R6 mk2 with bigger FF sensor (30 mpx?). Also it depends what lenses and on what stadium you use. For smaller fields and lower leagues you don't need very long focal lenght because you're mostly closer to the players. On bigger stadiums there are banners, and fields are bigger (wider mostly) so you're not so close to the action. I've 70-200mm 2.8 and on bigger stadiums even on crop it's a bit short, so R6 would be weak choice without 300-400mm lens. On smaller fields or even indoors even with R6 it should do the job ;)
@SteveMorton
2 жыл бұрын
My one concern with the R7 so far is the lack of good quality lens for APSC. Other than that I’m sure it will as you say sell well
@cjonwickham1933
Жыл бұрын
I hope r8 be like apsc r7...it be great ff competitor!!
@noremacpix3516
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your great KZitem Videos and the R7 looks good, however trying to get any info out of Canon is difficult. i understand that the R7 does not have a "Rate Button" unlike the 7D mk2 as this camera is aimed at the Sports snapper that cant afford the R3 its a bit of a mistake not to put one on it. unable to get info out of canon if you can reprogram another button to lock photos or even can you lock photos like the 7D mk1. not sure if you can answerthe question
@videopat3285
2 жыл бұрын
What about the rolling shutter for video?
@niku21111
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! As I saw on dpreview hi iso test, the R7 results are the worse compare to all modern APSC sensors. At the iso 3200, the pictures are almost unusable, if lighting conditions are not so favorable. I don't understand why people don't say nothing about that. Maybe all new reviews are paid... If you pair with new Rf 600, or 800mm f11, what iso you will need?
@doug433
2 жыл бұрын
I have the R7 and find 3200 is useable. Little processing and shots look great.
@blakeparry1983
2 жыл бұрын
and why you wouldnt: the rolling shutter in E-shutter looks pretty bad for panning (motorsport, wildlife) and some sports in general. Shame the R7's mechanical shutter doesnt support older glass at the full frame rate either, 6.7fps isnt enough for me (same with the R6)
@IdrisFashan
2 жыл бұрын
Birder here. R7 released… I had instant buyer’s remorse for buying an R6 four months ago. Had I known, I would have waited. Extra $1k CAD I coulda put toward RF glass. 🤬
@naturealbums
2 жыл бұрын
I pre ordered it on the 25th May still no deliveries at my dealer Watford SRS. It's spec is good for wildlife/birders who want a lot more pixels in the crop. About the same or a little bit more pixel density than a M4/3 camera so if the light is bad there gonna be noise I think for me 1600 ISO I'm critical about my 7DmkII this will be even worse. If you're in the UK those cheap Canon F11 lenses plus this camera won't be a great idea only in the few weeks of summer we get. I wouldn't have minded paying a bit more for a better EVF and a stacked sensor like the Fuji and Olympus have just recently. If I didn't have Canon lenses I think I might have gone for a OM-1. Canon are very slow at sensor development unlike Sony who supply everyone else.
@j.kimmer1509
2 жыл бұрын
Budget: buy the R7 better budget: buy the R6 too. Best Budget: R3... Focusgasm I put my R7 on my 400 f2.8.. Whoa, 640mm f2.8. R7 with pre capture. done.
@alfredknodler540
Жыл бұрын
I wonder when the r6 mark ii will come out to make the race
@johnvanderploeg
2 жыл бұрын
The pixel density of the R7 is very high. If the pixel density of the R7 is extrapolated to full frame you have an 83.2 mpx sensor (which is what I think the R1 will be close to). There are a lot of pro’s to shooting the R7 for distant wildlife and birds. However, if you don’t need the reach and are shooting a focal length below 400ish mm on the R7, the R5 has more res and bokeh. The crop factor is nice but in my opinion the R7 is really only worth it if you are adapting a 600mm or longer ff lens and need more reach than ff can provide.
@sinemaclub1856
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Which one is batter for rhythmic Gymnastics shooting? R6 or r7 thanks
@mb-watches
2 жыл бұрын
Needed a reliable A-Cam for my YT Channel and went with the R7. I like the crop for product shots, its good for blogging with my 10-18 EFS, can shoot in LOG and also has higher frame rate 4K, event though that is binned. Plus the Fine 4K. Future proof for my needs and a good upgrade from my 90D. It’s still big enough and the no Record Limit is tempting.
@TimoRoseNDFilms
2 жыл бұрын
Did you get the r7 yet? Have you shot with it for your channel?
@dsa4931
2 жыл бұрын
ONE CAMERA IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR 90% USERS . PREFERABLY FULL FRAME R6....🤔🤔🤔
@mandofan2616
2 жыл бұрын
so skip the R7 and R10 and just wait it out for RP2. And skip the R5 and R6, way overpriced for all the complaints about them. Also a crop camera is useless at event photography. The Electronic shutter is also crop @ 30fps for bird photography as it blurs out the tail end of the bird.
@amagnier
2 жыл бұрын
Could be a good second camera but for me difference in ergonomy between both is a blocker.
@nclarke110
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Rob, Im really interested in getting the R7 for sports Photography, Im still waiting to see the noise at 6400 ISO. All the video on KZitem noise reduction software is needed to make the image usable. I think thats okay for wildlife. Do you use noise reduction software? How would your workflow be impacted, turn around time after you shoot an event?
@alanm.4298
2 жыл бұрын
Wild Alaska did a lot of noise comparison with R7 and it's generally favorable. Noise reduction in Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw doesn"t work well with R7 images. He felt DXO raw converter and Topaz Denoise will do much better, at least for now. Canon's own DPP also deals well with the noise.
@nclarke110
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanm.4298 Hi Alan, I did see Wild Alaska’ s review, But it was move for Wildlife. Im more interested in Sports Photography, because i find myself at 6400 ISO often. Im using a Canon 300 f2.8 for outdoors, I found that the RF 85 F2 macro is awesome for indoor sports. But again mainly worried about the noise when shooting JPEG at games and pushing the photos to clients quickly.
@seanmuller5145
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanm.4298 yes I saw the noise reveiw it is very informative and answered all my questions about ISO Noise. For me I'm thinking trying out noise reduction software first with my old gear (80D) and see how good it is before paying out the bug bucks. The funny things is I have saving up for the R6 all year and still don't have enough funds to buy it. However I do have enough Toy money for the R7 with money to spare. Which is why I'm checking all the R7 and R6 reviews I can. This review was also a great one. The photo preview option and flash sinx speed is also very interesting.
@alanm.4298
2 жыл бұрын
My uses are mostly sports, too. Check out Chelsea and Tony Northrup's YT review... there appear to be serious rolling shutter issues when using the e-shutter. That in turn effects using the "pre-shot" feature that can capture up to 15 frames BEFORE you pressed the shutter. As handy as that might be for fast action, it reportedly only works with the e-shutter. The Northrups also mention some concerning things about the buffer. (Hey, they aren't my favorite reviewers and these things may only effect certain potential users... Just gathering info and we take what we can get at this point.)
@nclarke110
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanm.4298 Just watched it myself. I think for now, I’ll stick with my 7D ii for wildlife the buffer is insane, and keep using my R6 for sports. Them save up for a used 1D X mark ii only because i need the Low light capability.
@Guironey
Жыл бұрын
thxxx
@maurogalch2098
2 жыл бұрын
I will wait for R7 Mark II or Mark III. I don’t need rolling shutter at 30 FPS
@HeroShotz
2 жыл бұрын
If the r10 didn't have that shitty battery I'd get that lol. I don't understand why that lpe17 battery is hard to find and then you can buy 3rd party but they are super garbage and sometimes don't work. That lp-e6 has 3rd party support but they are great.
@melonmaster2892
2 жыл бұрын
yup, the price says it all.
@markshirley01
2 жыл бұрын
The way the two cameras switch from photo to video is different
@beldin1301
2 жыл бұрын
sorry you can't go off specs ,the r7 has sd cards so rattling of 30fps will fill the buffer ,cup of tea time while it empties out. when i see a youtube vid i want experience not i haven't got the r7 so i read a spec sheet
@JGZphotography
2 жыл бұрын
While I use an R3 and two 1DX2s, I do have a 7Dii, and I would NEVER replace my 7Dii with an R7. What good is 30 fps when the buffer fills up after 1.5 seconds in RAW or 3 seconds in jpg. The rolling shutter is terrible in electronic shutter mode, plus the noise at moderate high ISOs. Definitely made for the budget minded beginner photographer who is not concerned with the technicalities. In the long run, those buying the R7 will discover the camera cannot live up to the growing needs for the newbie photographers. Actually, one is better off with the 7Dii when it comes to all-around general photography.
@cjm8160
2 жыл бұрын
How do you think the R7 compares to the original R?
@JGZphotography
2 жыл бұрын
@@cjm8160 For me, I would skip both the R and the R7 and go with the R6 for the longer haul for the full-frame AF tracking features and a better fit for sports and action genres.
@jamesr5564
2 жыл бұрын
Rob, would your overall opinion of the r6 vs r7 (shutter speed) change now that Canon has released firmware version 1.2.0 that gives the R3, R5 & R6 195 fps? But ... I just read that Canon has withdrawn the release with no reason. Notwithstanding, my question still stands ... Thank you.
@fostervf16
2 жыл бұрын
You CANNOT use electronic shutter with flashes. You are confusing electronic shutter with electronic 1st curtain. But a terrible comment to make none the less.
@peterkrstic498
2 жыл бұрын
R7 is faster, but buffer have very low capacity
@kevinmetcalfe9734
2 жыл бұрын
The r7 the only shutter to act as time machine. Twaddle
@ADivaForLife
2 жыл бұрын
What about the sports folks??
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
The R7 for sports? Yeah absolutely, that's what I'll be using it for
@cooloox
2 жыл бұрын
You're touting up specs too much. I watch a number of bird photographers. One just showed the horrible rolling shutter on the R7 in electronic shutter mode. It is so bad that you can't seriously shoot birds 'in flight' with an R7 in electronic shutter mode, unless it's against a plain blue sky. Even then, the wings and body distort. The entire scene was warping and he showed it real time via Atomos recorder. Secondly, the AF is not as good on the R7 as the R5/R6. Every comparison I've watched, the R7 missed more shots (lost focus). The fan boys will jump in saying it inherited the R3 AF system, but in real world usage it's not even close, in terms of performance to the R3 and lags behind the R6/R5.
@RobSambles
2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry there'll be real world usage vids coming real soon
@cooloox
2 жыл бұрын
@@RobSambles I'll laugh, and be happy, if you prove the other reviewers wrong LOL. I look forward to your upcoming videos. 🙂
@angelogarciajr5356
2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone who preordered the R7 get their camera yet? I am going to get one, but I am waiting to see the overall satisfaction with the R7 first. Gonna take forever now for me to get one. I too have the R6.
@StrangerTwenty
2 жыл бұрын
I ended up cancelling my preorder and buying a kit version from uniquephoto instead since it was in stock and they also dont charge sales tax in most states. They still have them in stock if you want to snag one now instead of waiting. Mine is arriving today!
@angelogarciajr5356
2 жыл бұрын
@@StrangerTwenty Congrats. I think it is Canons plan. They got an extra thousand out of me because the R6 was never available? But guess what, they had the R6 kit available. Go figure. I told them keep the f4 lens and just send the camera. They said they could not do that. See the light? This is their trick.
@StrangerTwenty
2 жыл бұрын
@@angelogarciajr5356 Yeah, I was annoyed I had to buy the lens with it, but it ended up not affecting me too much, because I was able to sell the lens on Ebay. At the end, I only lost about 20 dollars more than if I would've waited for the body. and I glad I didn't wait, because I've yet to see one go in stock lol
@angelogarciajr5356
2 жыл бұрын
@@StrangerTwenty I hope you are happy with it. I checked just yesterday and the kit is in stock but body alone is not. People need to be careful there too. The last thing I purchased that was "in stock" was actually not in stock. I was put on an in stock waiting list and took over a month to get, so it was not actually in stock. More Canon Trickery. At this point debating if I want to wait longer for an upgrade with improvements like maybe a R7C. Note: I would not use the Canon Store because I have had nightmares with their delivery method Fed Ex.
@tintin69rr
2 жыл бұрын
Shot over 2000 shots on a r6 battery
@tysonator5433
2 жыл бұрын
The R7 specs are pretty good, though I had concerns over 30fps electronic. As the sensor is not backlite and stacked there will be bad rolling shutter. Tony & Chelsea have done a KZitem comparing the RP v R7 which is worth a watch
@joethompson5233
2 жыл бұрын
Been on the fence about picking up an R7 as a second body to my R6. There’s another KZitemr with a video out that kind of downs the 35 frames per second because of horrible rolling shutter while photographing a bat swing. Anybody else verify this as well? If the rolling shutter is truly bad…kind of negates this as a sports camera.
@sportsshooter2574
2 жыл бұрын
Rob, before you buy it rent it 🙂
@andylaauk
2 жыл бұрын
Fro Knows Nothing. He hates Canon.
@tintin69rr
2 жыл бұрын
68gramms lol when it’s stuck on a ef 500f4 😭😭😭😆😆😆😆😂
@michaelatherton6055
2 жыл бұрын
I too got an R7 to work alongside my R6. For me the R7 replaces the 7D MII (that I am still keeping). Feature commonality is huge plus. For shooting sports I must decide among the Canon 70-200 2.8 L MII, 100-400 4.5-5.6 MII L and the 300 2.8 IS L which goes on which camera. Note, to my surprise I get full or near full fps with the 300 2.8 IS L which is something that did not happen on the R6 so I think it goes on the R7 for max reach during a game. I actually pre-ordered the R7 at my camera store without asking the price because in my mind I was already to pay 2100 USD! What a value. In my first outing I got good performance at ISO 6400 on edited JPGs as DXO does not yet support the R7's .cr3s.
@oneofthesedays1
2 жыл бұрын
so how many frames do you get with r7 and 300 2.8 is? with r6 it is something between 6-7 frames, i am thinking about r7 as a second body to my r3
@michaelatherton6055
2 жыл бұрын
@@oneofthesedays1 I cannot tell exactly but I was surprised that it sounds like at least 10. It is certainly faster than when on the R6. I'll need to slap it on again and test it but it sounds like when it is on the 7DMII.
@oneofthesedays1
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelatherton6055 if you could just test it, would be great, just count the frames :) r3 does around 15 fps with 300 2.8 is
@michaelatherton6055
2 жыл бұрын
@@oneofthesedays1 Ok, I just squeezed off a bunch of shots and then counted 12 with the same second in the timestamp. So, R7, mechanical shutter, Canon 300 f2.8 IS L in H+ mode with a LP-E6LH battery appears to get 12 fps.
@oneofthesedays1
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelatherton6055 thank you, that's a very good news, i shall borrow an r7 and see for myself
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
It has 1 sec buffer fool for,the e shutter .......the r7 is old vs Sony
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
Rob says the 7d ii is his fav camera in 2026 lmao 🤣
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
Rob makes videos for,just himself .
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
Because ur name is Roberto And ur titles are misleading mate
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t .
@policeluber6720
2 жыл бұрын
Dude,doesn’t even have a r7 move on he’s a wanna be
@doug433
2 жыл бұрын
True with most people. Everyone is an expert pro photographer so they make comments on what they think about something even though they have no idea what is going on.
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