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@Dabe31XD
Ай бұрын
She will get power crept one day, but nothings power creeping her ult animation anytime soon.
@chibifanz
Ай бұрын
tell me how.. her outro increase electro skill and liberation both by 25%
@mormegil84
Ай бұрын
The important part. 👍
@TreetheSmelt
Ай бұрын
@@chibifanzSome people don’t pull her for dealing damage :)
@krishleysahani2147
Ай бұрын
This argument with weapon can be said for almost every single dps unit. 4* weapons are just not that great in this game. That being said, i would said yinlin is definitely a gainer here. Her weapon is so versatile it's worth pulling, unlike changli's weapon.
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@krishleysahani2147 Every other character has a specific quality that makes them still good regardless of weapon. Jinhsi's damage is just absurdly high, Jiyan and AoE vaccuum, and Changli is really good at chasing enemies. Yinlin doesnt have a redeeming quality like this
@eumaren
Ай бұрын
@@ThundahPrimei think people overhyped yinlin coz of genshin mindset.. where in that game, supports and subdps have great value.. while so far in wuwa, dps plus 2 characters that hold moonlit and rejuv is enough...
@krishleysahani2147
Ай бұрын
@@ThundahPrime i would like to differ in this matter. Yinlin has good off field DMG. Even if she use a level 1 jinzhou keeper, she can at the very least generate lots of a stacks for jinhsi. Yuanwu does the same but you need to be in his circle. Also she is a great support, and will gain more Value as more units are released. I believe yinlin is perfectly rated, not overrated. Characters like jiyan will lose value as time passes. Aoe is good, but the harder contents in tower are boss runs. Lower floors can be easily cleared by any units. As for changli, what do you mean by chasing enemy? Anyway, changli is a great unit who is also future proof as the game progresses. But the issue will her is her rotations can be quite unforgiving if she gets interupted (according to cn players). She basically has a high skill cap unlike yinlin.
@joaomarcoscosta4647
Ай бұрын
1) Prydwen's calculations assume you have Cosmic Ripples equiped, not Stringmaster. And Yinlin still has the highest DPS in the game. (Partially because of her short field-time, of course) 2) The gap between giving Yinlin her signature weapon or the standard 5* is about the same as Jinhsi or Jiyan. Skipping her weapon doesn't impact Yinlin's damage by more than any other limited character. (Well, except Changli.) What makes Stringmaster so good is that, while other limited weapons' skills are tailor-made for their signature characters, Stringmater's is universally useful. 3) The majority of the 4* DPS weapons in WuWa kinda suck, in general... This problem is not Exclusive to Yinlin. That said, if you are willing to buy the BP, Augment is the single best 4* DPS weapon in the game. Especially if you are willing to go all the way to r5, at which point it's damage becomes comparable to Cosmic Ripples. 4) I think this video is downplaying the value of Yinlin's outro a bit. ------------------------------------------------------------------ TLDR: Stringmaster is the most valuable limited weapon in the game because of it's flexibility, not because Yinlin particularly depends on it. Also... It's kind of ironic that a video called "Why Yinlin is OVERRATED!" implies that she is so overtuned that Kuro will be forced to nerf a whole element to account for Yinlin's existence.
@WhitbyWyrm90
Ай бұрын
You are right about the weapon except for Jinhsi, Jinhsi's weapon give her a LOT more damage ( about 20%in total ) than the standart 5* because of the +24% skill damage, since 75% of her damage comes from her resonance skill damage and the standard 5* broad sword has no crit values as well.
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@joaomarcoscosta4647 You bring up good points, but most of them can be countered Every other limited 5* has the same damage drop (except Changli), that I do agree with. But they all have things that make up for that fact. Jiyan has AoE vaccuum and insane ease of use, Jinhsi just kinda doesnt give a fuck and wipes the floor with the entire game anyway, and Changli has great enemy chase options. Yinlin has literally nothing outside of damage. As for her DPS on Prydwen, their DPS calcs imply that S6 Chixia is stronger than Jiyan so let's all take it with a grain of salt.
@BotanVal
Ай бұрын
@@ThundahPrime that’s not how prydwen dps calcs work. DPS calcs are based on the damage a character does with their optimal amount of field time. For a character like s6 chixia who wants to come in, do her nuke, then leave the field, it makes perfect sense why her dps is higher than jiyan, who wants a shit ton of field time. However, obviously jiyans total damage will be much higher per rotation, which prydwen has very clearly listed on their damage calcs. The whole “yinlin only does damage” argument falls flat because it dismisses the fact that so much of that damage is coming from off-field, which is currently a far more valuable niche than any of the things you listed. Yinlin also generates concerto energy faster than those other characters. Yinlin is as highly rated as she is because outside of verina, she is the second easiest character in the entire game to slot into any team, stringmaster or not. If your argument is that this is only currently because many of the top dps don’t have dedicated support units, I get that, but I would counter by saying that none of the current top dps take full advantage of yinlin outro skill. if a hypercarry character comes out that does most their damage from their resonance liberation, yinlin would easily be their current best support unit.
@marthaawah8948
Ай бұрын
@@BotanVal the next five star in 1.2 will be able to take full advantage of yinlins outro skill
@koks49045
Ай бұрын
@@BotanVal "off-field, which is currently a far more valuable niche than any of the things you listed", im no idea why offield dmg is valueble, if anything its less valueble than normal dmg beacuse you swap the character and lose the outro buff like in encore case, its only valueble if you have stringmaster. And then main flaw in yinlin's dmg is that she is the only subdps that relies basicly only on her dmg, so you need to invest in both main and sub dps for dmg, so basicly she nerfs the main dps, because she needs as much resources as main dps. But that soon won't be a problem, but also there will be just characters stronger than yinlin. "she is the second easiest character in the entire game to slot into any team," -> this is wrong, she is kinda the hardest because you need to lvl both her and main dps. You can do it cheaply if you will use just he moonlight echo and just invest into elemental 3 cost echos. And if you are encore user than also stringmaster is lvled for free, but you still need those lvls/talents. Overall i got both jiyan/yinlin and their weapons, also used encore/sanhua as the main team and yinlin was mainly usefull to clear non-boss lvls with chixia, i tried do monkey with her+chixia and it was not quite enough dmg, because none of them was fully invested. And i just did it with encore/sanhua with similiar investmend, but needed sanhua s6. Basicly assuming you are still struggling with ToA sanhua s6 still seems more valueble than yinlin even with her weapon.
@mcbx3d
Ай бұрын
What we learned? Pull for the character and their weapon, unless it's Changli, you can skip her weapon.
@dendenmushi9714
Ай бұрын
Nah, Jinhsi still outdamage most Changli team and competitive with Changli-Encore while being easier to use even without her weapon, her weapon just makes her broken. Without it, she's still top tier but not untouchable.
@mcbx3d
Ай бұрын
@@dendenmushi9714 wth Bro, where in my comment I started a Changli x Jinhsi discussion? I only said that Changli's weapon is skipable. This discussion is ridiculous and in the end this dmg output extra that you are saying in my account ended up as 4 sec difference using Changli - Yinlin - Verina vs Jinhsi - Yinlin - Verina. And stop the cap, Jinhsi loses almost 19% dmg without her weapon, this is a lot of dmg for a Hypercarry. And don't even try to continue this discussion because I don't care, it's just stupid.
@alt_original_1
Ай бұрын
@@mcbx3dbro he’s hallucinating there was no Jinshi in this 😂
@abhiss6705
Ай бұрын
@@dendenmushi9714man self inserted Jinshi and started a debate for no reason. Wow 😳 lol.
@vickdinvick5485
Ай бұрын
@@abhiss6705 rofl.. i was wondring, if the guy just replyed to the wrong comment, idk, it makes no sense with what OP says
@nightstar475
Ай бұрын
Tbf 15% diff from next BiS is an argument you can make for a lot of other character sig, iirc Jinhsi sig is 13% better than Jiyan sig and 18% better than standard wep
@nottyseel949
Ай бұрын
My hot take as a Yinlin main is that she kinda needs a rework. Her optimized playstyle is for off-field against groups of enemies, but by the time she has enabled her off-field damage, the Punishment Mark, most of the enemies are already dead so it's only really viable on bosses at which point her off-field damage is not really very high since it only hits the one target. Basically, damage based on marking enemies makes it REQUIRE enemies to stay alive which is generally bad for damage, lol. It would be better if it affected an area around the active character for the duration marking and attacking anyone in range until the skill was finished. In the end most of her effective off-field damage is on bosses and Jiyan's outro skill off-field damage is competitive with her damage at that point.
@beginneral
Ай бұрын
I pulled Stringmaster for Encore but I had some leftover pulls and managed to get her too. Glad that decision is not aging like milk. But even so I'm not sure where to put her on my teams tbh. I have 3 teams now and one is Jinshi c0s1 paired with yanwu taoqi team mostly used for clearing middle tower.
@eagan912
Ай бұрын
yinlin is very versatile and can be put anywhere essesntially, maybe aside from encore coz both need stringmaster. me personally with jihnsi. hrover, calc, changli could also work. she deals enough dmg as is rly.
@beginneral
Ай бұрын
@@eagan912 I initially was using her with hrover actually, but ever since changli arrived and I wanted her to pair with encore, I had to look for a spot for my C6 Sanhua, she's too good to be benched so I eventually made my Hrover be paired with C6 sanhua and C6 Baizhi. I might have to explore Jinshi + Yinlin + Maybe a yanwu? The main reason I was using jinshi team was so I can free verina and put her on encore + changli team
@eagan912
Ай бұрын
@@beginneral as i dont have changli i cant rly say. But my team from left to right tower is LF4 Jihnsi Yinlin Yuanwu MF1 Encore Sanhua Verina MF2 Jihnsi Yinlin Verina RF4 Encore Sanhua Yuanwu Hmc is on LRf2-3 duty alongside danjin baizhu. I always opt for verina in middle, yuanwu baizhu even yangyang could work as a replacement for left and right towers. Just slot them with reju bell set with 3* heal weap.
@beginneral
Ай бұрын
@@eagan912 I guess I am overthinking stuffs then. Ty for your input.
@keno-o1484
Ай бұрын
I use her in tandem with Calcharo and Verina. My only gripe was that I wasn't able to get her weapon, so I only have 1 copy of an ATK substat rectifier (4*). Basically, I had to sacrifice my Verina by equipping her with an HP weapon. For context, her healing scales with ATK. 😅
@zakim3O
Ай бұрын
I think this applies to almost all the limited 5stars, I think this is a strategy to spend indeed, especially since Kuro is enticing players on a guaranteed 5-weapon banner.
@joaomarcoscosta4647
Ай бұрын
Yup. The gap between having Yinlin's signature weapon or not is about the same as Jinhsi or Jiyan. If he is going to argue that Yinlin is overrated because because she loses a lot of damage without her signature weapon, then the same can be said about every limited character that isn't called Changli.
@dendenmushi9714
Ай бұрын
@@joaomarcoscosta4647Jinhsi damage is absurb even without it. Its only when not counting it that Changli is anywhere near her but harder. Counting it and its a stomp. Jiyan does indeed way less but he makes up for it in AoE, crowd control and easiness to Changli, so both being same tier is fine.
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@joaomarcoscosta4647 The problem is that Yinlin has literally nothing else going for her. Jiyan has AoE crowd control and insane ease of use Jinhsi is just kinda absurd either way Changli has very good gap closing ability and can chase aerial enemies Yinlin doesnt have anything that makes her good outside of damage.
@joaomarcoscosta4647
Ай бұрын
@@ThundahPrime Jiyan, Jinhsi, and even Changli (for the most part) all act as a main DPS character in their beast teams. (Either as a hypercarry, or as a quick swap, Dual DPS comp.) And they are all very good at it. But Yinlin fills a different role - she is a sub-DPS and a buffer. And, in these roles, she is pretty much unmatched. When paired with the right character, she has the most powerful outro buffs in the game. She also provides the highest damage output out of any sub-DPS. And her coordinated attacks can help Jinhsi out. (And potentially other future characters as well.) And she can also charge her concerto relatively quickly. She is so strong and versatile, that you can even squeeze her into teams with practically no synergy and she will still do fine. The one thing holding Yinlin back from being truly OP is the lack of a meta character who fully synergyses with her outro. I mean, Calcharo is fine, but... Assuming Xiangli Yao is at least on the same ballpark as Changli or Jiyan - or even if he does about as much damage as Calcharo, but with a bigger AoE and faster / more forgiving attacks - imagine how strong their team could be. Having said all this... I do think that, in the current state of the game, if you could only pick a single limited character to get, Yinlin would probably have the lowest imediate impact on your account. But that's more due to main DPS generally being much more impactful in WuWa when compared to sub-DPS characters, rather than the result of any flaw on Yinlin's kit. And, well, you only need so many main DPS characters. And depending on what we get in the future, Yinlin has the potential to be an absolute menace.
@BotanVal
Ай бұрын
@@joaomarcoscosta4647 I agree with most of what you said with one caveat. I think in most normal circumstances, a newer account would want to prioritize pulling a main dps first. Wuwa is a bit different because havoc rover is one of the best main dps’s in the game and he’s free, which diminishes the value of getting a banner main dps by a lot. I would still say jinhsi is the best value pull just because of how far ahead she is in terms of the current damage ceiling, but I would put yinlin ahead of both jiyan and changli.
@shaine9968
Ай бұрын
The power of powercreep
@touchedme1637
Ай бұрын
Heeeeerrreeee we go. Now that a new female is coming out, they're going to pretend the other characters before are miraculously not as good anymore. Like they got nerfed or something smfh.
@vincentwolf1456
Ай бұрын
That's why it's hard to take all these youtubers seriously. New character released -- everyone: OMG SO OP MUST PULL OMG. Some time passes -- same people: OMG SHE/HE SO BAD TRASH OVERRATED.
@randomcatontheinternet2771
Ай бұрын
what you mean YinLIn overrated? do you see how incrediable her NSFW work are?!
@CamronSaltado
Ай бұрын
A bit hyperbolic. Stringmaster is a good weapon but the whole electro DPS archetype isn't going to get gutted over a limited weapon, that a good amount of people skipped. The standard 5 star weapons should be what the game is balanced around because they are always available. Cosmic ripple isn't that much worse on yinlin and Augment with refines competes with it. Yinlin has plenty of options for viable weapons. She'll be relevant for a good while.
@mohamedsaid2227
Ай бұрын
so i would like to share my point of view im f2p playing 2 accounts i finished all the content on both of them , i rolled for yinlin and her weapon on one acc that i basicly roll on everything on, and the 2nd acc i only roll for dupes for the dps that im useing , so what i have found that geting dupes for the dps seems to be way stronger for the amount of dps u get than rolling for sup dps and there weapon , since the numbers u get in this game from dupes is very crazy like jinhsi at c6 u get extra 110% dps i dont think a sup dps can add this much dmg by herself , specialy if u have something like s6 mortifi or s6 sanhua that give atk buffs , the game is so f2p friendly on that part since u dont need type of element for reaction or u need a breaker and a support , u basicly can run w/e with moonlit and the healing set even if they are not a healer u can run the blue weapon that gives u healing and ur good
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
Ай бұрын
You have to pull her weapon first. That's what I did. I got it early and then pulled her. Otherwise, I never would have pulled her. Since weapons are guaranteed, pull them first. I still don't have a good echo set for her. I can't stand farming echos.
@astrogamerg2263
Ай бұрын
I have YinLin and changli on my second account and I’m glad I have changli she does a lot of damage and I have jinshi on my main account she does a lot of damage 100k is no joke
@midwestairway
Ай бұрын
Yao damage was not heavily nerfed, it is still the highest instant of liberation multiplier in the game, yinlin outro is what makes her valuable, 20 and 25% amplification is a huge multiplier, her off field damage is a bonus for an electro main dps, making your electro main dps do 35% more damage is massive, Yao without yinlin is extremely weaker than him with yinlin on his team, people using her with jinshi are wasting a slot, because jinshi does a lot of damage herself with or without her. I think you are jumping the gun, Yao damage is still 2.5 times Calcharo damage and yinlin will always have a place in an electro team or a quick swap team that works with quick swap.
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@midwestairway where does bro get his calcs
@mohamedsaid2227
Ай бұрын
if he does 2.5 times than calcharo thats almost double jhinsi dps , i think something might not be correct with that statment
@Tjtellsthetruth
Ай бұрын
Thundah please bring the mic closer to your mouth so its clearer/louder thank you
@MrJayslayerjay
Ай бұрын
I don't know I tried her once tagged the enemies they died when she was off-field then I realized she does nothing at all when that happens and skipped her. If she can't continue to do something after they die there's no reason to get her for my account. Strangely it was a really easy decision and it surprised me.
@Red_behelit9
Ай бұрын
That's exactly why I skipped her + no enough pulls for her sig But to be fair in tower enemies won't die early enough to feel bad for playing her
@MrJayslayerjay
Ай бұрын
@@Red_behelit9 yeah I'm not pulling just for tower right now because I also thought she would be fine in there.
@dendenmushi9714
Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, her marks disappear when enemies die. That's an advantage Zhezhi has over her. She will keep attacking in spite of next wave.
@S_1GGG
Ай бұрын
25٪ dmg The ultimate 20٪ dmg Electro
@user-vl3pr4yx9j
Ай бұрын
For wuwa its almost better to pull the weapon over the character lmao. Stringmaster is truly the most Goated five star in this game.
@nightstar475
Ай бұрын
Saying future Electro character being balanced around Yinlin sig is crazy 😂 who said, and why 😂. There is no basis for this.
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@nightstar475 Xiangli Yao's current beta state is very dissapointing, which is why I say that
@darkcastle85
Ай бұрын
don't skip weapon event banner or the character is not as useful and is considered mid yeah of course the Signature weapon is going to be busted more than 4 star weapons thats why the 4 star weapons in this game are trash because none of them are good on damage dealers the only useful ones are ones for the supports for building concerto energy and energy regen because they wont be doing damage if you dont get the weapon then forget about dealing high amount of dps
@eherden2169
Ай бұрын
I do admit as a Yinlin owner with no weapon Stringmaster she feels like a 5 star from the standard banner. If her weapon gets an rerun il pick it up.
@QuincyYhwach.
Ай бұрын
I've always felt something is wrong with yinlin but idk why .. i hated using her even with jenhsi, felt like a clunky af character Ofc ik her combos and rotations from youtube but i just couldn't play her
@kingroger6557
Ай бұрын
Skill issue...
@rjdn1384
Ай бұрын
Be careful buddy simps are comming at ya
@Prodigal450
Ай бұрын
Take away the dps of any dps or sub dps and they become "mid"
@TikraiTaigo
Ай бұрын
I use her for her ULT.
@personnerson7611
Ай бұрын
Well guess ima wait for a re run in a year lol
@AlwaysThirstys
Ай бұрын
This is the definition of misinformation and slander, 1# tectone creator.
@MageGus
Ай бұрын
what? LOL no
@seranganalambaka7354
Ай бұрын
sadly yeah, yinlin is overated. take a lot of time to add mark and without signature are mid
@highlordalcadizakyr1479
Ай бұрын
why would u ever pull a character without the weapon in this game?
@mansamusakervil9130
Ай бұрын
WHERE WERE YOU DURING HER BANNER BRO 😭
@ThundahPrime
Ай бұрын
@@mansamusakervil9130 making Jinhsi and Changli content
@dragonkus6934
28 күн бұрын
Your over thinking too much buddy 😂 just a game relax enjoy have fun
@dendenmushi9714
Ай бұрын
I see why CN where whinning about buffing Yinlin and Changli, they weren't wrong about it. While global complain about Husbandos being done dirty, CN thinks its the waifus who were done dirty. Imo Changli can easily be fixed withan actual synergistic echo (she and Chixia are really hold back with Inferno Rider basic attack bonus) and more liberation teammate (she does more damage than Yinlin, so off field doesn't matter). I don't think Yinlin is bad or overrated, imo its just Sanhua is too strong. They both should be in T0.
@syedgouhar1790
Ай бұрын
Bruh you're damn right
@juice3287
Ай бұрын
changli looks x100 better than yinlin jinhsi looks x100 better than yinlin jiaoqiu looks- nah, too far
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