Omg so many butt hurts in the comments amazing. I think I will never give it a try that way I'm not a part of this toxic community...seriously calm the f down everyone he can give his opinion based on his experience it's his chancel after all...
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
ong
@Lukas-qy2on
Жыл бұрын
there are 53 comment as of today, none of them are toxic bro. 90% of people who have used it across all levels of experience in web dev in the comments just disagree, because it's so plainly wrong
@kylerjohnson988
Жыл бұрын
So much of what is said in this video is objectively wrong.
@pixel7038
Жыл бұрын
"My thoughts on using svelte for this scenario"
@HMSA601
Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail literally asks me not to use Svelte in 2023. The title says "Why *You* Should NOT Use Sveltekit". If this is just his experience, why the clickbait suggestion? Not only for the clickbait, but this is plainly a corner case putting a bullshit opinion of a rails user out in public. @caincobain9318 If you don't understand the bait yet, you've got no clue. Stop speaking for this bullshit and go study and build. P.S: I came here because I thought he had something to say about the new svelte update and how it might have affected his workflow. Nothing. He's just a degrading rails user who doesn't understand growth/progression in technology and pisses on it while he laughs behind the scene for causing unnecessary commotion. Pure tarnation.
@rvft
Жыл бұрын
Somebody gotta tell you bud, click-baiting on tech stuff ain't the way to grow your channel. Title or description doesn't contain any useful information to understand why you dislike it, neither your claims make total sense. Im afraid imma dislike it
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Yeah tbh you’re right.
@monxun
Жыл бұрын
And you still keep the video up after agreeing with it. Bad practice, Sir.
@AlanDanielx
10 ай бұрын
@@monxunhe is a trash content creator
@talmann
9 ай бұрын
Delete this video, you’re totally wrong
@HendrikMans
9 ай бұрын
This comment is correct and I'm muting this channel.
@Rupis94
Жыл бұрын
I am just curious what part of sveltekit syntax is difficult to pick up for new devs compared to react or angular... In my mind svelte has simple syntax which looks like normal js and comparing it to react which has insane boiler plate and way higher learning curve.
@AnassSanba-f5d
Жыл бұрын
He is trolling
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
You're right, SvelteKit is known for its simplicity and ease of use compared to some other popular frameworks like React and Angular. But, every technology has its own learning curve, and what might be straightforward for one developer could be a bit challenging for another
@Rupis94
Жыл бұрын
That's fair, I just found it the opposite personally, and it was refreshing to have readable if statements Vs ternery hell in react
@pernydev8610
Жыл бұрын
@RedMalachi I've used GPT-3 enough. That comment is 100% AI generated. Like what? You make a misleading video and you use AI that has a knowledge cutoff almost 2 years before Sveltekit was released? Did you use that to create the video script? EDIT: Also I posted an image of ChatGPT returning practically the same thing and that comment was deleted.
@snake3837
Жыл бұрын
@@pernydev8610 There are mistakes in first 15 seconds of video with naming so either he has negative competency and couldn't even check what he's talking about or you're right with AI which tbh would not surprise me at all.
@shep9194
Жыл бұрын
Wait. 1:15 “Sveltekit isn’t designed to make gigantic fullstack apps” 1:35 “It works well for building extensive fullstack apps” ???????? Bruh did you even read the script
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Of
@greendsnow
Жыл бұрын
UI libraries are limited yes, but you can import VanillaJs libraries and reference to them on the dom with 2 lines of code...
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
True
@greendsnow
Жыл бұрын
I take this back, we have Melt UI now.
@av-explorations
3 ай бұрын
shadcn-svelte is all you need
@stasoline
Жыл бұрын
You are wrong on every single thing you mentioned. It's really impressive!
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
I’m not actually wrong, as the svelte experience is different for every developer
@stasoline
Жыл бұрын
@@MalachiRails No, you are actually objectively wrong and probably on purpose for click baiting.
@lukebonnici5627
6 ай бұрын
This comment is gold hahahaha (and 100% true)@@stasoline
@WyzrdCat
Жыл бұрын
Svelte is much easier to learn than the other frameworks. You are smoking something
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
I don't smoke.
@benjaminfayle5100
Жыл бұрын
Yeah - I didn't understand this complaint either - Svelte is much easier to learn than React. Experienced developers will likely have a different viewpoint.
@frnjtt-pn6wj
2 ай бұрын
I think React is easier XD and the easiest one is Angular
@forderdrek8757
Жыл бұрын
There's not that many libraries for svelte because it can easily use any vanilla JS libraries
@laztheripper
Жыл бұрын
The community isn't small. The fact is you just don't need as many packages to accomplish what you need with svelte, because they're either provided out-of-the-box or extremely simple to implement given svelte's primitives. If you reach for a library to increment views on something, that's just a skill issue on your part. i +=1 shouldn't need a whole package, and if you've used databases or redis or whatever else to persist data, you should be able to save the view count and fetch it when needed. Saying it's hard to understand when the other players are react and angular is also moronic. Feel like I've been baited, considering all of the claims made are so obviously wrong but whatever :)
@shawn_bullock
9 ай бұрын
We rewrote our enterprise app from React to SvelteKit and never looked back. On the whole our FE team releases features 2x-4x more frequently and with very little post-launch defect fixing compared to what they were doing with React.
@dellaian
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. It motivated me to look into your claims and 4 weeks in of Svelte(kit), I'm hooked. I asked a single question when starting, got my answer in 5 minutes and decided to go for a static Sveltekit project, with golang for the backend. I didn't want anything to do with frontend developments since react / angular became a thing. Thanks to you I have newfound love for frontend development.
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@liondeluxe3834
2 ай бұрын
lmfaooo
@erickmoya1401
Жыл бұрын
Nice trolling bro. XD Apart from the trolling, it is amazing to know I can defend Svelte/kit with all the arguments you mentioned. Makes me more confident to migrate.
@backstabba
Жыл бұрын
SvelteKit is easy to learn. The only problem is that some resources are outdated since the syntax for certain things was slightly different in beta. They have official tutorial though.
@maxterrain
Жыл бұрын
Svelte and Vue might just be the holy grail of webdev.
@oussamasethoum1665
Жыл бұрын
this must be a late April fool.
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Just take the point in the video
@ctw-home
10 ай бұрын
doing things in the "Svelte way" it is just doing things in the normal JS way. With Svelte you don't have to create anything from scratch like you would do with React and it's "React Way" because it just uses normal JavaScript. Also being a compiler means that Svelte will enhance the capabilities of JS rather than downloading a bunch of library stuff into your client. You better say why you should NOT use react ever again
@yogpanjarale
Жыл бұрын
0:50 - As SvelteKit has come from being a frontend framework to what it is, it is unfair to compare. And where Rails is a batteries-included framework, SvelteKit, including most JS frameworks like Next, Nuxt, are too not including database, auth, etc. and other stuff one stitches things from here and there. and scalable gigantic softwares are made in them so can be in sveltekit too It gives you more control over what you do than just rely on someelse's implementation
@yogpanjarale
Жыл бұрын
what double standards sveltekit does not have all the problems ruby on rail has which you mentioned here kzitem.info/news/bejne/y6eZuoJ5bXR-g3o
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
I understand what you’re saying but I’m just trying to relay important information for people that think it will be easy to build a full scale app with sveltekit. When actually it would be much harder
@yogpanjarale
Жыл бұрын
@@MalachiRails comming from battries included framework like rails and django sveltekit definetly might be harder but its more pleasant than using existing solutions in js ecosystems like angular , nextjs , mern stack etc its breeze of fresh air ; plus its more frontend oriented things and you can easily bring external services like clerk,firevbse for auth , serverless databases etc its not as streamlined as batteries included frameworks , but the freedom it give you is unmatched
@studiozoomies3316
Жыл бұрын
Bro, you’ve embarrassed yourself. I’d strongly recommend taking this down
@paulabrudan7896
Жыл бұрын
So the only valid complaint is that the ecosystem is small because sveltekit is new. It is way easier to learn and use, I was able to learn everything I needed in a few hours as a backend dev that never touched any react-like framework. You typically don't need any frontend frameworks, maybe only for ui, but you can just use any vanilla js libs. The "learning curve" is a lie, there is not one sane person thinking react or angular are easier to learn. The third "point" is again, the small ecosystem and community. Also what do you mean by "sveltekit isn't designed for scalable apps"??? How is sveltekit not scaling? The video sounds like it was ai generated, misleading and lazy content
@DanteMishima
9 ай бұрын
I'd actually counter this because the Discord has been super helpful in my transition to Sveltekit
@SaudBako
9 ай бұрын
Doesn't JavaScript have the largest module count of all languages, which I can easily integrate with any framework (server or client)? Am I misunderstanding the "ecosystem" part?
@oliveiraphc
2 ай бұрын
Click bait. Not a single valid point. Thumbs down.
@ScriKidding-eg6vn
Жыл бұрын
What a joke. i have 2 yrs exp with nextjs and SvelteKit is the future
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Sure
@bassam.2023
9 ай бұрын
Don't want to be harsh, but saying that your video (about a Javascript framework) won't be accurate in 2 or 3 years, is a complete non-statement.
@lidinzx
10 ай бұрын
SvelteKit lacks ecosystem?!? dude you can literally use almost any JS library, not Svelte specific, SvelteKit ecosystem is JS ecosystem. In the other hand, React just can use React specific libraries. and some JS libraries that doesn't has to touch the dom.
@MalachiRails
9 ай бұрын
I disagree
@0X_0LL4R-
Ай бұрын
what about now after 2 years , what do you think about it ? thanks
@MalachiRails
20 күн бұрын
It has improved massively
@murr395
14 күн бұрын
1. I'd sum up your point as "it's complicated for new devs". Which front-end framework/"library" is not, besides maybe htmx? 2. Ecosystem - personally I've used a lot of React and a bit of Vue before trying Svelte. A lot of the functionality I've had to search through (often deprecated or abandoned) tons of libraries for in react, are just smoothly built-in for Svelte or SvelteKit. Not to mention that often times the libraries you find are one of (or all of): poorly documented, virtually no support available, convoluted to use. Using external libraries is rarely the way to go unless they have a large group of maintainers that secures its future-proofing. Additionally, it can open your app to security and stability vulnerabilities as we've seen with the npm ecosystem time and time again. I think the idea that react has a big ecosystem is correct, but not that it is healthy or thriving. It is in my opinion too thinly spread. 3. As for receiving help with Svelte/SvelteKit, the same thing applies as for many other small developer communities - Discord triumphs and does it so well! 4. Obviously this is kind of a moot point since you a) provide no evidence for it, and b) contradict it completely in your next point. I'd like to clarify that I'm not trying to shit on your video, opinion, or experience. You are of course free to do as you like with your projects. However, the arguments you make aren't particularly well backed by reason nor evidence. I'd love to see a new one where you expand on this more and don't rush it as much, as I'm certain that SvelteKit is not immune to criticism or drawbacks - like with any system or tool.
@maxwellsmartarse2916
Жыл бұрын
I'm brand new to coding, and have chosen sveltekit as my framework. I haven't worked with angular or react. It's not that hard, actually. I'm not exactly a spring chicken, so my brain doesn't work as well as someone blessed with youth.
@MalachiRails
11 ай бұрын
Ok
@IamSH1VA
11 ай бұрын
You are lucky you didn’t work with React or especially Angular. Unnecessarily complicated, ton of boilerplate code.
@SRG-Learn-Code
Жыл бұрын
Wow, your alternative is rails? I didn't expect that but ok, quite respected in the old days, nonetheless it seems to me that if you didn't get to use it when it was trending you may feel like working on legacy, and don't get me wrong, it may probably be quite alive, but for beginners is like everybody know everything, you can't find learning buddies at your same level.
@karolkacki3654
Жыл бұрын
Apart from what everyone else are saying about this video, i would like to give you some general advice. Honestly man, I would recommend you to write more code from scratch instead of realying on external libraries. For a slef learner and somebody new in some of the technologies or tools it provides you with better udnerstanding of the concepts. Third party libraries can be useful when doing repetitive tasks in something you are already fammiliar with, but relying on them extensivly ftom rhe beginning can give you the wrong impression of ubderstanding certain aspects, which will come up leter during more complicated challenges. Surely, at the beginning it may seem to reduce your productivity, but it's a good long term investement in your own skills. I am not trying to be overly critical, but that's what i can sey from my own experience and from what I saw in some of your videos you seem to also have this problem. I wish you all the best and keep learning.
@mrwilsonone
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's just about what I started thinking to myself immediately when I watched this. This person needs to be writing more code and leaving the external libs alone for a while. Copy pasta won't take you very far.
@alexeymitjaew6926
5 ай бұрын
Man, why would you need a library for adding a view counter?
@MalachiRails
5 ай бұрын
Idk
@mehdiyahiacherif2326
10 ай бұрын
if you search a package for everything, you are a plumber not a developer, what you can do with ither frameworks you can do it with svelte svelte has no bundling ( compiled ) svelte has no shadow dom (faster) js libraries work out of the box ( unlike react)
@benmelis4117
3 ай бұрын
SvelteKit is literally one of fastest and simplest frameworks that are out there, and I've worked with quite a few. I don't like saying this but if you can't implement a counter without a library or framework, that's just a skill issue.
@Frensthescandinavian
Жыл бұрын
3400 views and 22 likes you should scratch your head, if it was a good video you should have around 350 likes. And you didnt read svelte docs did you? there's soooo many things you can do and you dont need additional libraries configs and all that jazz, but you stick to react, see how long that's gonna react. in fact react is not even working anymore and they made more libraries and config files for your coding pleasure.
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
That’s true
@lelilimon
8 ай бұрын
Guy just intentionally created flame wild ride in comments. Though it's bit too subtle to catch troll if you are a new in web-dev.
@user-zz6fk8bc8u
Ай бұрын
I'm a backend dev, but if you have issues implementing a view counter with svelte because there is no package for it, it's definitely not sveltes fault 🤣
@MalachiRails
20 күн бұрын
Ok
@chiroyce
7 ай бұрын
My first ever JavaScript framework was SvelteKit, no way it has a difficult syntax. Any developer is more used to regular variables/stores than useState setState and whatever
@jingle1161
Жыл бұрын
Dude, what's the matter with you? Even a toddler can see how much cleaner Svelte is designed. And why are you adding a like to literally almost every comment in this thread ? That's weird.
@MalachiRails
11 ай бұрын
Look at new video
@jonajo261
9 ай бұрын
Have you test other framework ? Cause they're way worst , except if you go full html css JavaScript ain't easier way
@metmikuyohannes2628
Жыл бұрын
My guy svelte is vanilla JavaScript mostly. Most vanilla JavaScript libraries will work with svelte with absolutely no modifications or wrappers around them. Maybe you just dont want to use JavaScript
@godnyx117
10 ай бұрын
Hello and thank you for the video! I want to ask. I'm new to webdev, and I'm not fully sure how full-stack frameworks work. Could someone use Svelte with something like vixeny instead of SvelteKit to create a full-stack app?
@o0OeftichisO0o
4 ай бұрын
A viewcounter ?? Bro, if you are coding in javascript, just build one yourself. You made the biggest mistake by not switching to svelte.
@MalachiRails
4 ай бұрын
Ok
@theilluminatimember8896
2 ай бұрын
We got outsourcing a counter before GTA 6 💀
@develscrapper
11 ай бұрын
Clickbait still performing well in 2023. 🙏
@giovannialvesdelimaoliveir1418
9 ай бұрын
MY OPINION: I think he is being ironic on purpose, so much so that he mentions several points that are positives of the language and that I understood that no libraries are needed for this.
@MalachiRails
9 ай бұрын
thank god
@sonofdarvin
Жыл бұрын
It has been a recent trend to hate Svelte/Kit just to create a controvercy and collect clout. Unfortunately for those, im here to point it out!
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Fair
@JustMyTwoCentz
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion there is no JS framework easier to get into that sveltekit. I literally learned the most important things in a week for a job project one month ago, two days ago we served it to production.... sveltekit is fucking awesome if you get the basics down. Html, css and js in one file its the shit. On the react projects i also work in my company we have 1 million style sheets for 1 million components, and quadrillion imports and states etc etc, in svelte a component is 1 file, with html, styles and js logic...
@MultiMtech
Жыл бұрын
I personally like Svelte and Sveltekit than React and Next.Js
@MultiMtech
Жыл бұрын
@JohnCanero Due to its ease of use..
@dtesta
9 ай бұрын
What?? You compare SvelteKit, which is mainly a frontend framework, with Rails, a backend framework?? Good job...
@ycombine1053
8 ай бұрын
Just so Im clear, this is a troll right?
@MalachiRails
8 ай бұрын
Yea
@thelazycoder64
Жыл бұрын
If we don't use it how will the community grow?
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
It won’t
@Debianz
9 ай бұрын
Imagine needing a whole package to make a simple view counter. I would take your opinion into consideration if you where actually an experienced programmer.
@MalachiRails
9 ай бұрын
Fair
@JamesLuterek
11 ай бұрын
Why are you using Rails? PHP has been around longer, has a robust community, and easy to find answers. In fact if everyone took your advice Rails should never have been invented.
@lolous-studio
6 ай бұрын
Sveltekit is mature and doesn't need svelte specific 3rd party libs because they almost all work with svelte by default 🙄 Also Svelte is really easy to learn, I learned it in 2 weeks and I'm not a pro
@MalachiRails
5 ай бұрын
Ok
@SubhasishDas-r5o
Жыл бұрын
You're kidding right??? It isn't funny at all.
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
✅
@raiyansarker
11 ай бұрын
If you are searching for svelte counter, you shouldn't be a developer in the first place
@georgewekesa1380
10 ай бұрын
Svelte and Sveltekit is pure heaven for a UI dev.
@mrwilsonone
2 ай бұрын
seriously, I just picked it up two months ago and it's amazing. I'm constantly doing things and then stop and say out loud to myself, "that's it? that's all I had to do?"
@renefournier
5 ай бұрын
Imagination < 0.
@alexandrelandgraf9486
Жыл бұрын
Js frameworks are not cults. You're free to choose whatever you like. "Why *YOU* should not use" sounds a little too much, tho.
@spheenik
Жыл бұрын
I also need someome else to implement a ViewCounter for me, because I'm too stupid to write these 4 lines by myself.
@austriancountryball
11 ай бұрын
I find it easy when i learnt it comparing it to Vue
@forderdrek8757
Жыл бұрын
SvelteKit is a meta framework. Svelte and SvelteKit are two separate things. Don't treat them as the same thing
@matheusdesousamenezes514
Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole vídeo, a few points: 1) Gonna be honest with you, this is a bad thumbnail to talk about technology. This is a tool like any other (with pros and cons). But, it is your channel and shouln't be a big concern. 2) Althought i agree with the comparison with Rails, everything has it's own beginning point. No technology was created solving a really big set of problems in one sit. 3) The learning curve is something "normal" because... People need to study. Eg.: React has the same learning curve but you get the benefits of it. 4) The scalability is a matter of the programmer. Meaning that YOU (or the person in charge of the project) are the sole person responsible for the architecture (no matter the framework, i'm pretty sure an unexperienced developer might be able to make the biggest shitstorms of spagetti code into a Rails application for example). The developers should be able to make their own things as well, and stop relying so much on third party libraries (by the time one of them drops support, depending on the library, it is a big concern for me as well). Don't feel like work into a monolith for example? Create a standalone webservice (rest api or whatever into a different application). 5) I kinda feel the same way, Svelte feels like it's changing so fast. This is actually one of the worst things about JS/TS in my opinion at this moment. Everything that you might feel obsolete in a few years (a thing that has way less chance to happen with a Rails app) EDIT: There is a really wonderful library to use along with SvelteKit called SkeletonUI, give it a try! Looks awesome hehe
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the knowledge and feedback on the video. Will try SkeletonUI out!
@Mid.G.
11 ай бұрын
You lost me at rails gems for a views counter 😂
@theilluminatimember8896
2 ай бұрын
Me too, use Nuxt but I wouldn't look for an npm package to handle something like view a counter. Not everything is a package. Modern devs are too lazy to do stuff themselves. Does the package not exist? Why not make your own?
@vitorguidorizzzi7538
Жыл бұрын
10/10 b8
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Why
@hebestreitfan6973
10 ай бұрын
Legitimate points, but generic. This is "why to pick established solutions", nothing specific to SvelteKit.
@MalachiRails
9 ай бұрын
Well said
@forderdrek8757
Жыл бұрын
"SvelteKit isn't designed to create gigantic, scalable full stack apps" "While SvelteKit has many advantages, like ... and it works well for building complex full stack apps with extensive backend logic"
@chidubememeka-ogbu9286
23 күн бұрын
First time google searching how to mute a channel on youtube
@ollie858585
4 ай бұрын
There is nothing of any value in this video. I'll thought out with no substance. If you cannot understand pure JS / TS then how would you learn any other framework. I don't get any of your points.
@MalachiRails
2 ай бұрын
Appreciate your opinion
@publicname
Жыл бұрын
sorry but it's a skill issue if you can't use svelte
@faizul_official
10 ай бұрын
😂😂 this is perfect reply to this video
@notjek1
Жыл бұрын
tldr; its not for copypasta devs
@weektodo
9 ай бұрын
Svelte is basically JS so you can use any package of JS in svelte without problems.
@albinopepegas8391
11 ай бұрын
Rails is the goat 🐐🐐🐐
@web_dev_cz
Жыл бұрын
Why is this even recommended to me :D is this a rant? But then why would you make two in 6 months :DDD seems like view farming to me.
@whoman0385
Жыл бұрын
component for view counter? are yall really that lazy?
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Crazy
@BruceWayneReal
7 ай бұрын
Svelte(Sveltekit) is the easiest web framework. Your opinion is simply wrong.
@PinheiroJaime
Жыл бұрын
limited ecosystem is BS. Any library that runs in a browser can run in a Svelte app.
@acrunchberry
4 ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZWO0aWsa6eKq3Y This would be true no matter what framework you were using?! What if you decided to use Preact and it didn't "cut it" and then go with Angular? Does this imply that Preact is bad? Bad take.... smh.
@zBrain0
9 ай бұрын
This video can be summed up in a single sentence. " I'm not going to use it because I am too dumb and or lazy to figure it out" this shit is the reason KZitem needs to show the dislike count on videos
@mohammadhasannejad1780
Жыл бұрын
not even accurate in 2 weeks
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
K
@varunaeeriyaulla
2 ай бұрын
1:15 then 1:35 just like Sveltekit, your video doesn't make sense.
@hahouari
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for such a focused and an organized video! I was going to use Svelte for a simple landing page that showcases a product of mine, as a react dev, I don't think there is much of learning curve for me, so overall I find my case is not affected by any of what you mentioned, but definitely would affect whether I suggest Svelte for others. I might add that a good idea to measure a web framework similar to svelte whether you should use it is if there are fully stable and rich UI Libraries that provide ready components for you, and Svelte for most projects (based on my free time research) is simply not there yet! I'm still looking forward to see this framework growth over time.
@aykutakguen3498
Жыл бұрын
If you get the dislike button chrome extension you can see that the like to dislike ratio is 40 likes to 900 dislikes, The guy is prop not a good dev, and thats why he got confused on how svelte works and how it integrates with other libraries etc. This happens if you start and only use frameworks like react etc, check out a proper svelte video. Also his other point that svelte is not scalable is wrong too, the only point where it fits somewhat is when you talk about component sizes in kb, which can become an issue in large projects. But other then that help can be hard disagree strongly
@hahouari
Жыл бұрын
@@aykutakguen3498Already learned Svelte :). I rewatched the vid just to give u more precise answer, this guy seems coming from server-side rendered frameworks like he mentioned rails, he isn't completely wrong, I completely don't recommend newbies to learn Svelte, possibly React or Vue, I didn't learn from docs unless some how-to(s) like how to deploy to Vercel and such, it lacks some examples as well. Also, the way Svelte implements Server-side rendering is completely new to me, I didn't like it much, and took me some days to get used to its behavior and output, Overall I like how lightweight it is, how it integrates with tailwind, postcss, typescript like charm ✅. IDE support is bad which is also another -1 why it's not for starters. Also tools and other libraries don't support it or are alpha, which is +1 to the vidoe he mentioned that. People didn't like the video probably bcz they don't like to hear their fav framework is imperfect, Otherwise, a feedback is always better than a "dislike".
@Noritoshi-r8m
11 ай бұрын
Sold
@b1-66er.
6 ай бұрын
Wow bro. You said that. They gonna shoot you on the spot. 😂 I agree. You are totally right and there is no But. If its the simplicity that matters, choose vue or nuxt. Only then you can really see that Svelt makes no sence.
@MalachiRails
5 ай бұрын
Yeayc
@grimey6728
Жыл бұрын
Might be the worst take I’ve ever seen lol
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
Why
@ThingEngineer
11 ай бұрын
😭 More like 2 or 3 months time…
@dalandan8300
11 ай бұрын
This is the only video of yours with 13k views, everything else is below 2k soooooo...
@Mel-
6 ай бұрын
Ooft, almost took the bait for a second
@ephemeus
11 ай бұрын
I haven't use svelte or sveltekit for a serious project so my opinion might not be relevant here, but the biggest hurdle for me when start learning svelte two years ago is the ecosystem, mainly lack of ui kit as I'm not good at styling. now the ecosystem is getting better though. For sveltekit, there is no need for me to use SSG or SSR feature for now. so haven't try it that much. I have a huge interest in both svelte and sveltekit. I like its syntax, structure, and simplicity, at least better than react. But I don't see myself using it for a serious project now. But I will still use for a personal project
@michaelshea4834
Жыл бұрын
Learn by doing. It works.
@MalachiRails
Жыл бұрын
True
@NimaBirgani
2 ай бұрын
One suggestion I would like to offer, as a software engineer with over 20 years of experience in designing and developing large-scale enterprise and SAAS software, is to focus on learning from seasoned developers rather than content creators who primarily focus on frameworks. Real developers are defined by their ability to solve real-world problems, not just by the tools they use. Many KZitemrs have never written code that has gone into production. Always seek objective, scientifically measurable insights rather than subjective opinions.
@ozgurNY
5 ай бұрын
I love Svelte, but Sveltekit is something I avoid
@MalachiRails
5 ай бұрын
ok
@ozgurNY
4 ай бұрын
1 month later, I am a big SvelteKit fan !
@theilluminatimember8896
2 ай бұрын
@@ozgurNYlol, what's your previous experience. Got Sveltekit on my radar as a Nuxt and Laravel + Inertia.js dev
@adityabanik316
Жыл бұрын
finding the dislike button anyone else?
@IAmOxidised7525
5 ай бұрын
literally so many dumb points, like there is no package for sveltekit for counter, if there is a package is in Javascript, there is package for Sveltekit , like why is it so hard to understand this ?
@HARUN-AKSU
Жыл бұрын
K 👍🏼
@nahfamnah
6 күн бұрын
Man, I like Rails and have been using it professionally for a decade...but you're way off on this one. The JS ecosystem is very good (though rapidly changing for better or worse) and "changing your framework" is a pain in the ass regardless of what language and framework you use.
@ezzywizzy1049
29 күн бұрын
"Why nobody wants to do the work for me ? I just want to make the 4563th twitter clone and change the world you know. What ? WDYM learning by doing ? Why ?" A lost youtuber
@kissu_io
Жыл бұрын
Comparing a backend framework with a frontend meta framework, what? Soon, a comparison between Kinder and Apple?
@danielfernandezaguirre
6 ай бұрын
is this sarcasm? if you need a library for a hit counter you don't need an ecosystem you need to learn how to code my dude
@MalachiRails
6 ай бұрын
it is sarcasm.
@ricoowenene9897
10 ай бұрын
While I believe it is important to let people have an opinion, I would like to point out that the Svelte ecosystem is basically the javascript ecosystem. Unlike React for example, where a wrapper library needs to be created around every JS library for it to actually work in React, with Svelte, you can just use the JS library. I also think that saying Svelte is incapable of building large scalable applications without any substantial evidence illustrating why is a bit misleading.
@MalachiRails
9 ай бұрын
Well said
@tavernellimatteo
10 ай бұрын
yes is a problem for you because you don't know how to program and you import everything patetic import import import point 😄😄
@ZadSoleimaninia
Жыл бұрын
Not true! I have encountered many issues before and all I had to do was to posted it on Stack Overflow... If you learn the basics deep down then you won't run into any issues for a while unless you are trying to do something too complex! I would highly suggest going through the SK's playground and trying things out before giving up on it too quickly without giving it a chance! React is popular because a giant company like Meta is backing it up and we know how that works, when a company with endless resources backs up something then no matter how good or bad it is people will trust it more to rely on for a good few years if not decades! Same thing could arguably be said about Angular except the fact that Angular was and still is always super difficult to learn! Vue is similar to Svelte, or at least from my perspectives though but it took a while to gain popularity! I think you are bashing Svelte too quickly without giving it a proper chance! Harry and his team have done a splendid work here and we should be thanking them all as these are they guys racing Meta and other teams to push for new features built into already-popular libraries and frameworks!
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