We can all agree that Carl's favourite composer is Tchaikovsky
@mohammadgolkar2789
2 жыл бұрын
The statement made about tchaikovsky changes a lot when you keep in mind that he was gay
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Oh god, know I get it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
He's definitely in the top 5 yes🙌🏻😂
@ZicraVEVO
2 жыл бұрын
As it should
@Tizohip
2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker Tchaikovsky have much mistakes in his orchestral works.
@emilycaballero6052
2 жыл бұрын
"a nightmare for performers and conductors" I feel like Stravinsky would have been half flattered by that
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah😂
@Amadea27
2 жыл бұрын
And a nightmare for dancers as well... I faint just by thinking of the choreography.
@nobumiau6472
2 жыл бұрын
And for some listeners xd
@DW_25
2 жыл бұрын
Just conduct in 1 5head. What do you mean you can't subdivide into 7
@davidozab2753
Жыл бұрын
Life goals!
@ssb201
2 жыл бұрын
"One Spontaneous Key Change doesn't make your music epic" I feel personally attacked.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry😂
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547
2 жыл бұрын
What was that Schumann piece?
@ssb201
2 жыл бұрын
@@depisoroszkoltosrac6547 According to one commenter, its Movement 4 of Symphony No. 3.
@depisoroszkoltosrac6547
2 жыл бұрын
@@ssb201 Oh, it is. Tahnks! :D
@BenjaminGessel
Жыл бұрын
But... But more brass... 😁😁😁
@theKobus
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently we all missed out; we remember Verdi as a composer, but his wife said his true gift was his risotto alla milanese
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@tkengathegrateful4844
2 жыл бұрын
Just told that one to the missus - it got a good laugh from her. 👍
@MaxStirner123
2 жыл бұрын
Admittedly, that's why we printed it on the banknotes
@TheHutchy01
2 жыл бұрын
Either that man made a really good risotto or y'know ouch.
@johnnie543
Жыл бұрын
Giuseppina Strepponi needs more credit than she is rewarded for this
@eliot8394
2 жыл бұрын
chopin didn’t need orchestra, chopin had piano.
@mateuszkozieja7537
2 жыл бұрын
Yes🙂
@yoeyyoey8937
2 жыл бұрын
Duh
@kidkrowtaylor
2 жыл бұрын
look im chopin vegetables
@glenngouldschair390
2 жыл бұрын
@@kidkrowtaylor oh god no
@kidkrowtaylor
2 жыл бұрын
@@glenngouldschair390 we be chop pin
@mazeppa1231
2 жыл бұрын
As a proud Liszt fan, I loved the burn "where do I even start", because in reality, he never stuck to conventional norms of composition and always did things different. Liszt always experimented new things with his music, so it kind of rings true, lol. 😂
@hasinaacter4686
2 жыл бұрын
Liszt the GOAT ( look at the pic)
@Emptycat171
2 жыл бұрын
All Liszt fans unite!
@stravinskyfan
2 жыл бұрын
Not really
@KERATOID
2 жыл бұрын
@@stravinskyfan what do mean
@kasajizo8963
Жыл бұрын
@@stravinskyfan bro thinks he's has knowledge
@damienheemskerk
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the only complaint about Chopin is his orchestration just says how incredible he is. The Grieg slander just hurt as well😂
@ryanjeffers679
2 жыл бұрын
Griegs string quartet. A must listen.
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
2 жыл бұрын
Chopin is just the best and most romantic of all time. When a woman judges Chopin, the woman says: 😍
@escuchachopin2856
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha exactly, Chopin is the best, we all love him... but, he's cello works are beautiful...
@al4381
2 жыл бұрын
Chopin is the equivalent of a romanticist hippie
@user-fu7zf4ck9z
2 жыл бұрын
Chopin is a bad composer. There's a lot of compositions of his that are lovely, but outside of the Ballades, his music is written very lazily
@heisenbong6691
2 жыл бұрын
The Brahms one is entirely counterfactual; in reality, she was expecting him to marry her after Robert died, as they were both in love with each other. However, he chose to remain espoused to his music over marrying her. Conclusion: he was the exact opposite of a simp.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Should I change the Thumbnail to Brahms = Chad😂
@heisenbong6691
2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker Yes, sir 😂
@mouf725
2 жыл бұрын
Oh right, I always thought it was a case of unrequited love, interesting. In that case, do you know what his reason for not marrying her was, like why did he want to remain espoused to his music?
@richh9450
2 жыл бұрын
Not only did he try, there are rumours that there was a child.
@Cbawls
2 жыл бұрын
@@mouf725 Robert Schumann was his mentor and great friend. I assume even though the two had an affair, he had too much respect for Robert and felt too guilty.
@marazali2557
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats dude you actually managed to piss me of with every single one of them 🤣
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
That's was the intention😉
@lordcephas5991
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@RachaelLongLastName
2 жыл бұрын
As a Vivaldi fan, I don’t feel like that was even a really good burn. He wrote over 400 concertos and because one of them happens to be beloved by a random suckass talent show, that’s all he’s remembered for. He _invented_ the modern concerto and all he is remembered for is Summer.
@dieweltverschworunggatescl1206
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Vivaldi is more than the four Seasons.
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
2 жыл бұрын
A good burn then would be: "Once you hear one piece, you've heard them all" xD
@RachaelLongLastName
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Lmao, I guess that would be true for someone who just listens to the four seasons. But it is certainly a better "burn" than the one in the video. Maybe I'm just a stingy fan tho.
@RachaelLongLastName
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't even write all the concertos for violin; there are concertos for cello, oboe, flute, bassoon, recorder, lute, mandolin, horn, viola d'amore, (etc) and then he also has a couple of concerto grossos that are really great too.
@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
2 жыл бұрын
@@RachaelLongLastName Yeah, I get what you are saying, but it is a funny burn since so many of Vivaldi pieces sound similar to 4 S.
@ninjaaninjaaaa
11 ай бұрын
In case u want to jump to ur fav composer 0:00 - Bach: B minor mass, Gloria in excelsis Deo 0:03 - Beethoven: 5th symphony 0:08 - Mozart: 40th symphony 0:16 - Mahler: 3rd symphony 0:28 - Bruckner: 7th symphony 0:43 - Brahms: 4th symphony 0:53 - Schubert: "Unfinished" symphony 1:05 - Schumann: 3rd symphony, mov.IV 1:20 - Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances 1:30 - Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe, Lever du jour 1:42 - Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, The Augurs of Spring 1:51 - Liszt: Spanish Rhapsody 2:04 - Strauss: Vier letzte Lieder 2:14 - Chopin: Ballade no. 1 2:25 - Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker ♡ 2:33 - Wagner: Tristan und Isolde 2:45 - Verdi: Nabucco 3:00 - Puccini: La Boheme, Musetta's Waltz 3:14 - Haydn: 87th symphony 3:23 - Händel: Music for the Royal Fireworks 3:35 - Debussy: La Mer 3:48 - Mendelssohn: 4th symphony 4:02 - Shostakovich: 5th symphony 4:16 - Schönberg: 2nd chamber symphony LOL 4:23 - Sibelius: 5th symphony 4:36 - Dvorak: 9th symphony 4:50 - Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin 5:02 - Prokofiev: 6th piano sonata 5:14 - C. Schumann: 3 romances 5:24 - Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique 5:34 - Vivaldi: "Summer" violin concerto, mov.III 5:42 - Saint-Säens: Allegro Appassionato op.70 5:48 - Hindemith: Symphonic Metamorphosis, mov.IV 5:59 - Korsakov: Scheherazade 6:08 - Grieg: Peer Gynt suite no. 1 6:18 - outro - Ravel: string quartet in F, mov.II (little help to @BlueMeeple 's comment)
@BlueMeeple
2 жыл бұрын
List of excerpts (mostly 1st movements or preludes etc.) Bach: B minor mass, Gloria in excelsis Deo Beethoven: 5th symphony Mozart: 40th symphony Mahler: 3rd symphony Bruckner: 7th symphony Brahms: 4th symphony Schubert: "Unfinished" symphony Schumann: 3rd symphony, mov.IV Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe, Lever du jour Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, The Augurs of Spring Liszt: Spanish Rhapsody Strauss: Vier letzte Lieder Chopin: Ballade no. 1 Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker Wagner: Tristan und Isolde Verdi: Nabucco Puccini: La Boheme, Musetta's Waltz Haydn: 87th symphony Händel: Music for the Royal Fireworks Debussy: La Mer Mendelssohn: 4th symphony Shostakovich: 5th symphony Schönberg: 2nd chamber symphony Sibelius: 5th symphony Dvorak: 9th symphony Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin Prokofiev: 6th piano sonata C.Schumann: 3 romances Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique Vivaldi: "Summer" violin concerto, mov.III Saint-Säens: Allegro Appassionato op.70 Hindemith: Symphonic Metamorphosis, mov.IV Korsakov: Scheherazade Grieg: Peer Gynt suite no. 1 (outro - Ravel: string quartet, mov.II)
@Leonecta
2 жыл бұрын
You are our salvation.
@vaniasetti7753
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for throwing some light into this! 👍🏽😃
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much🙌🏻
@unknownchannel3141
2 жыл бұрын
A true angel
@insight827
2 жыл бұрын
Liszt is quite misunderstood, but his music and legacy is incredibly important
@Whaijorhujishkomunyk
2 жыл бұрын
True
@oritdrimer4354
2 жыл бұрын
Very, Very True
@jessicaeskebk5945
2 жыл бұрын
Super duper very very super true
@insight827
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicaeskebk5945 NO!
@vincentvidal-berthaud3755
2 жыл бұрын
Misunderstood? By whom? Everybody knows he's a great composer.
@Quotenwagnerianer
2 жыл бұрын
The Mahler one made me burst out laughing. Especially since I read the letters Alma wrote about him and in one of the early ones she describes how he cried in her arms, apologizing for coming too early the first time they ever had sex. ;)
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Ok I didn't know that😂
@WolfgangXP65-67
Жыл бұрын
I NEED TO READ THAT 😭
@azpizzazz3442
Жыл бұрын
w h a t
@Paolo8772
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, but coming too quickly has nothing to do with the size of one's dick!
@meruem6995ujjoooo
8 ай бұрын
Do you see the likes, some things are perfect just the way they are.
@НуркенАкбергенов
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky is a great melodist, but when it comes to orchestration, no one is better than Ravel.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
I think that Tchaikovsky is way more than just a great melodist. But Ravel is a genius orchestrator, and so is Tchaikovsky, just because Ravel uses more different Instrument combinations does not mean he is a better orchestrator, even if I love Ravel. Not saying Ravel isn't better. But there is a difference between how many different sound colors are used and the actual genius of orchestration.🙌🏻
@iks.7048
2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker It's like comparing Bach to Stravinsky.
@arielorthmann4061
2 жыл бұрын
Messiaen's orchestrations are also something
@worldmusictheory
2 жыл бұрын
cliché comment ngl
@musicfriendly12
2 жыл бұрын
@@arielorthmann4061 Messiaen is Ravel's sucessor in a way, his orchestration is great, the only difference is that the way he writes doesn't lend so well to what really made Ravel the best. Btw, saying Tchaikovsky is better at orchestration than Ravel is ridiculous, Tchaikovsky was a good orchestrator, but not even a master, so let's not compare to perhaps the biggest master of them all. Stravinsky, Messiaen, Schoenberg, they were all so much better and clearly more knowledgeable, not that there is any issue with Tchaikovsky's music
@пейнтболмосквы
2 жыл бұрын
5:14 During Rob's lifetime it was exactly the opposite. She was a Europe-renowned piano virtuoso and he was barely known outside Germany. When they came to Russia someone asked "Who is that guy near you? Ah, your husband? Does he even compose or what?"
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't knew that thanks🙌🏻
@dan-us6nk
2 жыл бұрын
source please I'd wish to read more
@пейнтболмосквы
2 жыл бұрын
@@dan-us6nk I'm not sure if I can give you any sources in English since I've watched some documentaries and read some articles in Russian. You can fing something about Clara and Robert's trip to St. Petersburg and Moscow in 1844. Although, here are some translations from Olga Loseva's article "About Clara and Robert Schumann's Russian trip" from 2002: "Whatever Russian criticists wrote during Clara Schumann's concerts about the popularity of Robert Schumann's pieces "among all of the amateurs, not even saying about the connoisseurs", the facts, unfortunately, claim the opposite. Even among the connoisseurs his music *and even his name* was seldom heard before 1844, and really a few of Eastern European composers of his generation were in such a deep obscurity there. It would be wrong to say that such a situation was specific for Russia and was different for any country outside Germany". Although, in 10 years the situation changed dramatically and Schumann has become one of the most playable composers there. And that had suprpisingly no connection to Clara's recitals.
@Quotenwagnerianer
2 жыл бұрын
Which is also the reason why her father was so fundamentally opposed to them marrying and they had to get a court order to be allowed to. He had groomed her to be a concert pianist being able to maintain not only herself but also provide for her father as well. And when Robert showed up, an unknown musician, a law school drop out, a man that was not made, father Wieck was up in arms against the idea of her daughter marrying him.
@alicja-b8p
2 жыл бұрын
Without Clara you would not know Robert.
@bdragon1445
2 жыл бұрын
Handel is indeed seriously underrated, but I don't think that was his fault.
@LobsngDmchoi
2 жыл бұрын
Not underrated by Beethoven. But he was by Schoenberg -- at least Beethoven had a copy of Handels (almost) complete oeuvre.
@SimoneBattaglia94
2 жыл бұрын
We have to blame 19th century musicology for that I think.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
@@SimoneBattaglia94 Sounds about right.
@indiegrab360
2 жыл бұрын
I only studied Baroque and Romanticism but if I had to answer "Who's the best composer?" I'd just go with Bach Mozart Handel... Schumann or Schubert... always get them confused. One of those.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
@@indiegrab360 Questions like that are completely useless.
@philipkarmanov6318
Жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky: does not suck at all His boyfriend: ._.
@smokefan4000
10 ай бұрын
*His nephew
@KingRenYen
Жыл бұрын
As a Shostakovich Fan, I can confirm that we all like him because his music was inspired by war and oppression.
@hortleberrycircusbround9678
11 ай бұрын
And this is why Prokofiev, who embodies way more fantasy is a trillion times better
@philv2529
5 ай бұрын
Is Shastakovich pronounced, "Shastakovich" or, "Shastakovich?"
@henrywolfecarradine
2 жыл бұрын
Once heard the joke that you can count everything Stravinsky wrote in single beats. One, one, one, accented one, soft one, one rest, one, one, slightly longer one, one…. Etc.
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
Dancers are masters of counting music, because that the way we can set reference points and dance together with the music... I've danced in Stravinsky and you can't imagine how complex it is musically, we had to memorize a sequence of phrases, each of different length, and count it at different speeds depending on what we needed to do... Everything with absolutely no pattern, and counting everything in 1 wouldn't help us😂 it was fun tho, I give him that
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds horrible😂
@lucapop3571
2 жыл бұрын
Although Stravinsky represents at first a considerable challenge for conductors because of his unique bar system and internal elements in the music... it's the most addictive drug once you get used to it and internalise his "game". As a student, I think Histoire du Soldat it's an impassable step in a conductor's education!
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Wise words😂👍🏻
@wsc1955
11 ай бұрын
One of my faves but I'm guessing it would be hard to play.
@brianthomas2434
8 ай бұрын
The hysterical thing is the "Stravinsky conducts Stravinsky " series on Columbia demonstrates how difficult his work is to conduct. Old Igor was a below average conductor.
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky for ever✌🏻 The only composer who wrote 2 hours long ballets and you can listen to the whole thing of every single one of them finding every moment beautiful end exciting, not to mention his other full length works I do not understand why he hates Rachmaninoff that much lol😂
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Me, I don't hate Rachmaninoff, I think he is genius😂
@oritdrimer4354
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call him my favourite, But I like to play his music tho.
@tkengathegrateful4844
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, ballet. I'd rather be condemned to Dante's Bolgia of Mozart Divertimenti.
@Luca-yg5qx
2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Prokofiev?
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-yg5qx Prokofiev is amazing too, one of my favourites... I honestly wouldn't do any ranking with composerz but it was a way to say that Tchaikovsky has a special place in my heart. Also, although Prokofiev's ballets are incredible, it's still hard to stand against Tchaikovsky's three masterpieces, which are enjoyable with and without ballet
@anti64
2 жыл бұрын
love how the first time Saint-Saëns is acknowledged on your channel is for the "Why your favorite composer sucks!" video, that's fair I guess lmao
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious😂
@zevburrows1871
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky a better orchestrator than Ravel? Them’s fightin’ words.
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky's orchestration is widely considered among the best... Ravel has a beautiful use of colour and rythme but Tchaikovsky's orchestration is pure genius... It should be recognised instead that Wagner's orchestration is at God level too and Tchaikovsky has been influenced by it (although he publicly disliked him)
@oritdrimer4354
2 жыл бұрын
But overall Ravel wins because Le Tombeau de Couperin.
@iks.7048
2 жыл бұрын
@@oritdrimer4354 Overall, Ravel wins because he is Ravel. One mustn't forget, he has other orchestral works.
@oritdrimer4354
2 жыл бұрын
@@iks.7048 Ravel is Great, He is in my top 5 already.
@lanaritchie
2 жыл бұрын
Daphnis et Chloe is just out of this world
@plentyofmagoes1143
2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven’s harmonies are simple at times, but many of these instances stand to hold an important meaning within the overall structure of the piece. An example I’ve seen people sight is an instance in the 4th movement of his 5th symphony where he stays on the I C major chord for several measures to pound in the cadence on the first section. I believe this over the top emphasis is there as a means to contrast the much more somber returning theme from the 3rd movement. I would argue his harmonies are not necessarily boring, but more overtly simplistic at times.
@dan-us6nk
2 жыл бұрын
He's just the earliest romantic symphonist so everything seems more simple to us. I personally am addicted to Mahler, so genuinly listening to Beethoven's music sounds a bit simple for me.
@BenjaminAnderson21
2 жыл бұрын
@@dan-us6nk It's that classical simplicity that makes it such a joy to listen to, though. Beethoven's music may be quasi-romantic and large in scale but it never loses that Mozartian charm.
@mattbalfe2983
Жыл бұрын
Beethoven is much more about motific development ( easy example being the 5th symphony.)
@Eclectobit
2 жыл бұрын
Ravel is pinnacle of orchestration and Prokofiev is well-known for many recognizable works, piano sonatas (dunno if you are just a violinist or anything), Romeo and Juliet, piano concertos, etc etc.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, Berlioz was a greater and very innovative orchestrator. He influenced the Russians, esp. Rimsky.
@wsc1955
11 ай бұрын
Love them both since I was 17.
@anoldretiredelephant
Жыл бұрын
I think the thing about Bach that can make his music a little difficult to listen to is that you are never given a break, seldom much contrast in a single movement, and in his pieces start very suddenly and drammatically, which are not bad things but can get overwhelming very quickly, especially with his fugues. Bach in my mind will always be my favourite composer because I can never get bored of him but once in awhile I need a break from his intense and rigorous counterpoint for something lighter, which often ironically involves a bigger orchestra.
@bigjojo2832
2 жыл бұрын
all in favor of changing his name to CHADkovsky, say I
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's funny😂I will keep that in mind🙌🏻
@Samuel-kc1pg
2 жыл бұрын
Prokofiev is so flawless you had to lie in order to find a defect ☠️
@cedricb7904
7 ай бұрын
+1
@alexanderfo3886
2 жыл бұрын
0:56 Schubert was great at writing melodies. It is a quality in itself. I can live with that.
@Balfour.
2 жыл бұрын
About Mahler, it's worth saying that at some point he sought Freud's services to "solve stuff" so yeah, there's that. Although on the other hand, he was almost 40 years old when he met his wife who was barely 18 at the time, and all his and Alma Schindler biographers account that whatever happened between them was wild and instantaneous, so yeah.
@WillWright77
2 жыл бұрын
I was watching this in aggressive anticipation to see what you had to say about Tchaikovsky. Left surprisingly satisfied.
@ligetisspaghetti5763
2 жыл бұрын
4:07 WOW I have a lot to say about this: Lady Macbeth, the Nose, cello sonata, Symphony 1, Symphony 15, Piano Trio 2, Piano Concerto 2, Jazz Suites are all counter arguments.
@robertallan8035
2 жыл бұрын
as a Tchaikovsky/Debussy fan, I got off easy and the most fucking striking thing is that I've been told I look a lot like Dicaprio by entirely different random people a great number of times
@NibblesTheNibbler
2 жыл бұрын
I think Debussy looks more like John C. Riley than DiCaprio.
@indiegrab360
2 жыл бұрын
In college we all wrote a term paper on a Haydn piece. It required listening to it over and over... Doing lengthy analysis of the score. The Monday it was due we're all handing in the papers I go, "I'm sorry, but that was pretty boring. I'm not a fan." Everyone in the room laughed, including the professor.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
I like that story😂
@luanllluan
Жыл бұрын
My man's dead inside
@HMPGENERAL
2 жыл бұрын
can't have the one hit wonder conversation without my boy pachelbel
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's true giuseppe😂
@dariomosbo4270
2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more representation with composers such as Albéniz, de Falla, Gottschalk, Granados, etc. Their music is so great and deserves to be known more!
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I don't know much about them so I can't make any jokes😂
@jesustovar2549
2 жыл бұрын
Spanish composers are seriously underrated, especially the ones from late 19th century and early 20th century, even most spanish people don't have idea of who they are!
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
Gottschalk! I'm so attached to his music since I danced the main character in a fairytale with his music. Very exciting and exotic, yet virtuosity doesn't take away from expressiveness
@kristijanpavlovic
2 жыл бұрын
True, I only found out about them because I play classical guitar, fantastic composers, sadly not very well represented outside the guitar niche.
@bossshrek1241
2 жыл бұрын
bet no one knows edouard wolff
@butter5014
2 жыл бұрын
What a low blow for Chopin! He may not have orchestrated most of his pieces, but there is orchestral quality counterpoint in his pieces! Can you tell that Chopin is my favourite composer?
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
The lack of orchestration in his works is what keeps Chopin in my least listened composers... I do find his music beautiful, but piano alone doesn't meet my taste so often... I also didn't love his orchestrated works, sadly, but I won't to make clear it's just about personal taste, he's a great composer
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Yes kinda😂
@theKobus
2 жыл бұрын
I think if you asked Chopin about his orchestration he would say "oh god please leave me alone will you leave me alone if I write you a mazurka"
@Froge4291
2 жыл бұрын
@@theKobus im a chopin fan so id be very pleased to have a mazurka written for me xD
@dan-us6nk
2 жыл бұрын
stop tapping at tables in public
@Cbawls
2 жыл бұрын
“Tchaikovsky: does not suck at all” Oh the irony…
@elizatoponce9375
2 жыл бұрын
NONO the fact that there isn’t a melody with Debussy is WHY ITS SO GOOD
@weavileoff0461
2 жыл бұрын
I am a proud Wagnerian. He wrote very complex and long works, and you have to be really into there to feel all of the greatness. And when you've reached it, it is simply the best for you. And you also get the superpower not to get tired while listening to his operas))
@ianng9915
2 жыл бұрын
Ppl say they don't like Tristan act 2 because of Brangene warnings and marke's disappointment. I absolutely disagree as personally the whole act was just the most musically fascinating piece, the plot is slow but the pace is perfectly shaped by Wagner
@weavileoff0461
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianng9915 I advise them just to be more patient so they can fully enjoy the music
@ianng9915
2 жыл бұрын
@@weavileoff0461 being patient is one thing. When I first listened to Tristan I was patiently listening to act 1 while my attention kinda flew away until they drank the potion. But act 2 and 3 is something that I don't know how people can think it's boring, cuz it simply isn't.
@ianng9915
2 жыл бұрын
@@weavileoff0461 actually act 1 can be very good too depending on the performance. The Bohm performance left me cold but the Karajan 52 is the best act 1 I've heard because of many reasons that I'm not going to list out here. Anyways Wagner left us long gifts that are not boring.
@kodalycat906
2 жыл бұрын
Ach, you proud, true believers. Those 20+ (?) minutes of stasis in Parsifal (Farcifal, mejor dicho) were the death of me. Pity I didn't have Glazunov's wherewithal to keep trying (he didn't "get" Wagner, either, on attempts 1,2 or 3) until finally... I will definitely give ol' Richard his due, however, as the greatest "bleeding chunks" composer ever!
@danavioloncello
2 жыл бұрын
4:36 Sibelius violin concerto : why am I still here? Just to suffer
@skeletoor501
2 жыл бұрын
This channel represents another fundamental step in recognizing that nobody actually gives a shit about Satie, which is interesting, considering that neither did his contemporaries
@ernstjung6234
2 жыл бұрын
Quite false since he was worshipped in France by Les Six. His music was loved back then in France and he kind of was an icon of French Classical music.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
He made music jokes on the piano so that may be why.
@ernstjung6234
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerwilliams6058 That"s pretty much you being ignorant of the character of the guy.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
@@ernstjung6234 I mean now. His repetoire has a niche scope. Classical music treats most composers that are not Mozart or Bethoveen horribly for no good reason.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
Contempories of more famous composers after spending their whole life creating music and gaining reputation only to be instantly forgotten by an ungrateful public. 💀
@Scrungge
11 ай бұрын
I actually love when the piano in an orchestra gets sole attention for a while. Everyone's at the edge of their seat in those moments
@Monkechnology
2 жыл бұрын
4:02 "All warfare is based" - Sun Tzu
@mormelgil5017
2 жыл бұрын
proud Mozartian. love his Operas, Piano Concertos, late Symphonys and Choir Music
@alexgalter
2 жыл бұрын
That's my man
@sergioescuderoparedes4708
7 ай бұрын
Me too :) His Little Gigue K. 574 is not I-IV-V-I at all!
@usgusdus1215
Жыл бұрын
I have spent 10 years of my life listening Bach's fugues almost non-stop. Never gets old
@пейнтболмосквы
2 жыл бұрын
Alkan: "Who the hell are you? And stop beating the piano, aren't 20 minutes enough?" Sorabji: "If you write 5-hour-long piano pieces with 4 staves it doesn't make your music automatically epic" La Monte Young: "Tune your piano m8" Delibes, Minkus: "I'm not a ballet dancer so your music doesn't make sense to me" C. P. E. Bach: "Stop modulating between movements"
@llamaking1071
2 жыл бұрын
4:48 because he's Bartok, and that's what Bartok does, and I love it!
@seriouslysupersonic
2 жыл бұрын
One simply does not mess with Chopin and Rachmaninoff. Period. Other than that, pretty accurate.
@insight827
2 жыл бұрын
"every piece is war inspired" Piano concerto no. 2 waltz for jazz orchestra 9th symphony 8th string quartet 9th piano trio I could go on...
@sirbowman3158
2 жыл бұрын
Me anytime someone says something bad about Wagner's character: Yeah, he was a real douchebag Me anytime anyone says a single negative thing about his music: Listen here you little schieße...
@treystephens6166
2 жыл бұрын
Kapitol S.
@IR4TE
2 жыл бұрын
*Scheiße but in this case you might want to use 'Scheißer'
@treystephens6166
2 жыл бұрын
@@IR4TE masculine not feminine ❓
@IR4TE
2 жыл бұрын
@@treystephens6166 Scheiße is just the noun for shit/poop, Scheißer is the word for the person who's a little shit/bugger. You could use the feminine form which would be 'Scheißerin' if you talk about a female, but usually for everyone the masculine form gets used.
@vincentsmit1935
2 жыл бұрын
If you can listen to Götterdämmerung without vibing, maybe life just isn't for you idk
@nightwhenjar
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh tchaikovsky was an alright orchestrater Ravel was a literal god
@juancarlosleiva1411
11 ай бұрын
Now we all know Carl is a total nutcracker nerd
@gigogrom216
2 жыл бұрын
Brahms is not a simp, he just paying respect to his friends Robert and Clara
@пейнтболмосквы
2 жыл бұрын
Not only Bruckner wrote 9 (11 with no. 0 and 00) symphonies, but he kept re-writing them, sometimes composing entire new movements. People still mess up with the editions.
@organvideos2597
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to assume since there was no mention of Percy Grainger or Scriabin, that my favorite composers are so indubitably excellent it wasn’t worth taking the time to include them in such a trivial list.
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with such a interpretation.
@chrismcdonald9120
2 жыл бұрын
We sight read a granger piece in school last week and it was hell to play
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
No me mention of Steve Reich or Iannis Xenakis as well. Clearly the way to this person's heart is to write for percussion.
@kasajizo8963
Жыл бұрын
Here I'll roast your favourite composers Percy Grainger: compensates for his small dick by being a hardcore white supremacist Scriabin: bro fully descended into madness
@tj-co9go
Жыл бұрын
Scriabin: you want to play Liszt but find his music too difficult
@Larch3
Жыл бұрын
Me when it got to Shostakovich: "That's not entirely tru- oh wait a second"
@iks.7048
2 жыл бұрын
Ravel is still superior, you'll understand one day. Also, Haydn wrote over 107 symphonies, 104 was just his last.
@jura3443
2 жыл бұрын
What was the piece they played for him?
@iks.7048
2 жыл бұрын
@@jura3443 Daphnis et Chloé, Suite No.2
@iks.7048
2 жыл бұрын
And for Haydn, I'm not sure. I've heard every symphony, but I don't *know* them all.
@aidandavis7657
2 жыл бұрын
Not superior to rachmaninoff that’s for sure, especially with his piano concerto
@Arjun-py4ym
Жыл бұрын
thank god, someone understands. For me ravel is the peak of music and he can never be compared with bitch-ass Tchaikovshy.
@alexp5552
2 жыл бұрын
0:29 That's what one calls a dedication
@ZicraVEVO
2 жыл бұрын
My god… Tchaikovsky… I’ve never been so glad a stranger had been born
@anniefillmore8594
2 жыл бұрын
When I was in school our Music History Prof said that Tchaikovsky wrote "meretricious " music and for that reason, we would not be studying him during her course. We were pissed...especially after we went to the Library and found out what meretricious meant.
@schokoladenritter7969
2 жыл бұрын
You know, I would just drop that course immediately after hearing that. Tchaikovsky is basically my spirit animal, and I would feel personally attacked by that professor's statement. I feel like a lot of musicologists just like the stuff Mendelssohn liked out of respect for tradition, and the stuff that they can write a thesis and essays about, which shows a lack of enjoying music as music. Just because Tchaikovsky was good at making people like his music doesn't mean that it's bad. His orchestration skills and melodic talent are god-tier. Plus, he's good at keeping people engaged in the music most of the time, which cannot be said for a lot of late romantic era composers. Music is meant to be enjoyed... shocking, I know.
@KlimatorUzurpator91
2 жыл бұрын
Misconception with Bach... love his works for solo violin and also fugues. His music is divine.
@fredericfrancoischopin6280
Жыл бұрын
2:17 the piano is already an orchestra
@vibratoqueen450
2 жыл бұрын
Me, a butthurt Bruckner fanatic: "Seriously, where did we get the 'same symphony 9 times' thing??? Ugh. No one UNDERSTANDS Bruckner, which is why I am so special for worshipping him against his will!!!"
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Bruckner is in my top 5 so I agree with you😂Was hard to find something bad about him so I went with that😂
@tkengathegrateful4844
2 жыл бұрын
I was certain that the joke was that it wasn't a joke. 🙂
@tkengathegrateful4844
Жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky: Makes your grandmother feel like she's 75 again.
@dan-us6nk
2 жыл бұрын
0:17 it's monday evening I've been studying calculus for hours and you hit me with that I lost it officially. thanks. that was hilarious I'm still having waves of chuckles I am in danger. you couldn't even insult his music you could give a joke about his height too but you chose the D minor you just love the drama.
@RuleBritannia_-dr8wx
Жыл бұрын
As a lover of Handel… I can 100% agree with the remarks lol! We are a rare breed! Lol!
@wolframsteindl2712
2 жыл бұрын
What's with the hate towards Händel? Aside from Mozart and Prokofiev, he's the composer that got me into classical music. And I still like to listen to his works every now and then.
@TempleofSolomon
2 жыл бұрын
Handels music from Solomon is beautiful!
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
@@Robert_1685 funnily enough, he was the mainstream composer in his time😂
@rogerwilliams6058
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly in classical music everyone is underated.
@hollycarpenter9828
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that I wasn’t a classical music person. I’ve realized that the only classical I’ve been exposed to is Beethoven. And I don’t like Beethoven. So I’m going to take video and choose some cool seeming composers. Thanks for making this! I’m going to start with Ravel because I liked that excerpt you put In here and Shostakovich because I like war music.
@KKIcons
Жыл бұрын
See if you like Glenn Gould. Iearned to love classical through listening to him and studying his lectures. Heres some Ravel. m.kzitem.info/news/bejne/rIhoq3edraqKiaw
@KKIcons
Жыл бұрын
Glenn Gould is most known for his Bach. kzitem.info/news/bejne/1JWk26Fmnox6hG0
@KKIcons
Жыл бұрын
Here is a lecture on Beethoven. With the Tempest Sonata no. 17. kzitem.info/news/bejne/s4Z6qJeafXmjoXo
@KKIcons
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that shows shostakovich influenced a lot of the great OSTs.
@Boccaccio1811
Жыл бұрын
Classical music is very diverse so it’s really impossible to judge it based on just one or a few composers… personally I like Beethoven, but there’s a lot of classical music I love that other classical fans will scoff at and vice versa
@felicity1877
2 жыл бұрын
So happy how you are thinking about Tchaikovsky, my favorite composer, but he wouldn't be pleased that his bestie Grieg is called awful (; still, there's so much light and so much darkness close together. The Nutcracker overture may be sweet, but you will feel completely different with the one from Swan Lake - or ever tried The storm or The Oprichnik (; But forget all other composers, if you can have the Waltz of Flowers, the Final Scene of Swan Lake or whatever else (;
@the.galant.cadential.formula
Жыл бұрын
This was hysterically funny !!! One thing I think you have in reverse about the Schumanns: We would almost certainly not know Robbie had it not been for Clara.
@mirk-oh9549
2 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh hysterically. and I thank you for it.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@espumosoYT
2 жыл бұрын
Chopin's music is so great, he doesnt need orchestration. Just a piano and he'll make the best music you'll evee hear
@mateuszkozieja7537
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a pity he didn't finish his 3rd concerto it would have been a fantastic piece
@FrostDirt
2 жыл бұрын
Good music, but hardly best for me
@omegachadrequiem3831
2 жыл бұрын
Eh sounds like key Spam
@mateuszkozieja7537
2 жыл бұрын
@@omegachadrequiem3831 maybe his thinking is too fast for you😉
@kasajizo8963
Жыл бұрын
@@omegachadrequiem3831 what's bro on about
@Stichting_NoFa-p
2 жыл бұрын
People who like the music of those composers don't suddenly start hating them just because those facts. A very illogical way of thinking. Unless you have statistics of people who told so.
@austinplatt4427
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky swallows XD you are a legend for that joke
@ricucci-hillmusic
2 жыл бұрын
I'd actually also add Verdi's orchestration is more like a marching band with strings added to it. Something about it always makes me feel like it leans a bit tin-y
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
#Roast😂
@ricucci-hillmusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker Got more where that came from. Haha
@garcar2814
2 жыл бұрын
As a DCI fan, college marching band member, and former BOA competitor, I approve of marching band orchestration lol. Like I think that Tchaikovsky invented drum corps/marching band orchestration with the finale to 1812 overture by calling for all available brass musicians
@ricucci-hillmusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@garcar2814 haha don't get me wrong, marching band orchestration is great, just not really what I want to hear in my Italian opera lol
@cliffgaither
2 жыл бұрын
@@ricucci-hillmusic :: You really short-changed Verdi ! The Triumphant Scene is masterly ! His melodramatic music is over-the-top, which suites melodrama. The chamber-atmosphere of La Traviata is relaxingly-calming & dramatic. Cut him some slack ! 😁
@sergei-prokofiev
2 жыл бұрын
Welll the Prokofiev one is definitely not true for Prokofiev lovers but probably true for the rest of the world, but that 6th war sonata you put in its simpely amazing!!!
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
I personally love Prokofiev, and at least his Romeo and Juliet had been choreographed several times and became so famous... More than Peter and the Wolf for sure
@sergei-prokofiev
2 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelebabici yeas true but all not so great pieces in comparison to his 2nd piano concerto
@bernabefernandeztouceda7315
2 жыл бұрын
@@sergei-prokofiev that concerto is especially good, u right, one of prokofiev best works, intense and ominous
@oritdrimer4354
2 жыл бұрын
I love his First sonata and his Second Piano Concerto.
@emanuelebabici
2 жыл бұрын
@@sergei-prokofiev I love his 2nd Piano Concerto, what are you talking about 😂 I was just saying Peter and the Wolf isn't even his most famous work, because Romeo and Juliet is known and played worldwide, and I am personally very attached to it because I love the ballet
@pianosbloxworld4460
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what I love about this video? How every single one of this true in a slanderous kind of way, yet people overreact. Clearly a troll video. Also, Chopin’s orchestration, as a pianist, is not a problem to me. Let the orchestras deal with it. I have to mangle with a hardass concerto that slaps.
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks🙌🏻
@JeffJeff-qb9bx
2 жыл бұрын
His etudes are the perfect distraction from his orchestration
@John-fh8vy
11 ай бұрын
Jokes on you, I have all the time changes in the Rite of Spring down to memory
@cadenzalien4554
2 жыл бұрын
The Liszt roast was unnecessarily brutal 💀
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry
@cadenzalien4554
2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl-FriedrichWelker lol
@fritzg5964
2 жыл бұрын
I recognize the piece from somewhere but can’t remember the name, what is it?
@cadenzalien4554
2 жыл бұрын
@@fritzg5964 It's the Spanish Rhapsody
@odeonmelancholy3711
2 жыл бұрын
As a poet, the one about Puccini really hit close to home...
@Gretchaninov
2 жыл бұрын
Grieg's music is gorgeous, especially the Lyric Pieces but also the Piano Concerto and various other works. Ironically, all these samples drew my attention - they all wrote at least some good music.
@eliza4241
Жыл бұрын
"...and why do you look like Leonardo DiCaprio?" damn i laughed so hard idk why
@emmanelson5363
2 жыл бұрын
Fellow Tchaikovsky-enthusiast here. Your video did not disappoint. XD
@rezasorna
2 жыл бұрын
I loved every one of your jokes :D but how dare you mock Lord Bach's fugues! :D Well done!
@kneza96BG
2 жыл бұрын
I guess other than 'he's boring' there is no proper roast for Bach XD
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Yesssss
@arielorthmann4061
2 жыл бұрын
Bach is the least boring composer out of all of them in the list
@kneza96BG
2 жыл бұрын
@@arielorthmann4061 true, he is the best ❤️
@frenchimp
2 жыл бұрын
I guess Bach's music is boring to those who assume that one should be able to enjoy music without making an effort. On the other hand Tschaikowsky's music is immediately pleasing. So being a Tschaikowsky fan and finding Bach boring makes sense.
@geraldojorgedalmaschio9648
2 жыл бұрын
Behind the sarcasm it hides from someone who obviously loves classical music.
@wheredabanana
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky has always been the GOAT my entire life.
@Lisztomaniac1022
2 жыл бұрын
When I saw Handel I automatically thought, I have yet to run into a friend or a fellow musician that says Handel is their favourite he's... well... he's Handel...
@lanaritchie
2 жыл бұрын
Never realised Debussy looked like Leonardo DiCaprio until you did the honours and pointed it out, cheers
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks🙌🏻😂
@Alea-Iacta-Est47
Жыл бұрын
Bro did Haydn and Rimsky-Korsakov so dirty
@thomasqing7779
Жыл бұрын
I think I'm one of the last haydn fans on this planet
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI
Жыл бұрын
I think I like all classical music tbh though Tchaikovsky is my current favorite but I personally really like Dvorak and Shostakovich.
@lindildeev5721
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky : he's trying to be a Russian Mozart instead of being just Russian Scriabin : he seems to love sex too much Wagner : he thinks he's the god of music Strauss : he also thinks he's the god of music. And if you think his operas make no sense, look at early operas Ligeti : he think world is a horror movie
@sbakst
2 жыл бұрын
1:25 jokes on you this is exactly why i like rachmaninoff
@dariomosbo4270
2 жыл бұрын
I love how you transition between songs, especially Mozart and Mahler 👌 Edit: Pieces 😉
@Carl-FriedrichWelker
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks🙌🏻
@dan-us6nk
2 жыл бұрын
edit it to "pieces" before the comment section shredds you.
@Kchkchkch8415
2 жыл бұрын
Poor Grieg
@natehubbard5062
11 ай бұрын
when Händels came up i laughed so loud 😭shit was so out of pocket
@AerYdmyg
2 жыл бұрын
This guy had a chance to absolutely ruin Beethoven if he had put “ode to joy” as his the bg music for his title card lol. Big respect for goin easy on Olde Ludwiggy, sehr dank kumpel🍻
@luizcadu
2 жыл бұрын
Tchaikovsky: "love the sentimental melodies, really touching, but come out of the closet already, will you?"
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