Not worth it. Those schools generally produce physicians interested in research. All medical school produce great doctors. The way you became a great doc is through experience, not medical school.
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@MasterNinja786
3 жыл бұрын
Yea and this rule applies to anything another example of this is a school because a school doesn't make you smart it is your drive ,persistence and work ethic that determines how smart a person can be not where they go.
Yes! And that's what they care about, at least from all of experience and what I've heard from other nurses in Ontario too. Whether you've gone to Conestoga, Fanshawe, McMaster, etc no one cared unless you had experience. The hardest thing in Canada is just getting your first job. After that you have experience and everything opens up and they care about your actual experience
@Gioviandrea
3 жыл бұрын
It's really refreshing how honest you are when speaking over this. I appreciate the honesty! I'm hoping to apply to the 2023 cycle :)
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Someone has to! I try to keep it as real as possible
@sim_aware
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your interviews! #YouGotThis! Appreciate you entering medicine in a pandemic. #SimTribe
@bridie4583
3 жыл бұрын
Woohoo, exciting times ahead! Good luck with your application preparation!
@catherinediaz5180
3 жыл бұрын
man, i am trying to do like pre reqs at a community college, transfer to a university and then go from there. I'm 27 now and have a 2 year old and I am getting NERVOUS. I haven't even registered for my classes yet. Also your vids with your wife are so great! You guys are very helpful and elaborate in your explanation of, pretty much everything. She basically convinced me to be a PA, it's going to be a long road, but I'm sure it'll work out!!
@baileymclemore6065
3 жыл бұрын
My husband is a medical student at our local state school and has friends at other state schools. The curriculum at our state school is severely lacking and different from our friends' curriculum. The whole structure of how subjects are taught is different. His classes covered about 40% of the information on Step 1, and the rest he had to learn on his own, without resources from the school, which is not the same story for our friends in neighboring states. The clinical side of things in M3&4 are better, but most students from our state struggle at first in rotations because they just dont have as strong a base of knowledge as the MDs expect. I know its not really the point of this video, as it is mainly comparing state schools to ivy leagues, but just want to throw it out there that different schools CAN have very different curriculum. Research your school!
@bobfg3130
2 жыл бұрын
That school has some serious issues.
@excelmd3804
3 жыл бұрын
Augusta University lists fees per semester, so to get the yearly rate you should multiply it by 2. :)
@gracesnuggs6753
3 жыл бұрын
Applying to Augusta University for med school right now! Still, 30,000 is much more affordable and reasonable!
@arabmd1505
3 жыл бұрын
Omgg i got accepted for fall 2021 at MCG I only applied to 2 schools and this was my top one.
@kenjicabahug4830
3 жыл бұрын
@@arabmd1505 bruhhhh omg same!! I’m so excited hahah
@bridie4583
3 жыл бұрын
@@arabmd1505 wooooohoooo!
@yellow8206
3 жыл бұрын
@@gracesnuggs6753 but it's 50k out of state :(. But that's probably still below average tuition as far as med schools go lol.
@Jesus-dz7fh
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not doing med school but this does make me feel better about paying about 7k a semester for Nursing.
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@dogcrazy25
3 жыл бұрын
7k is still a lot of money. How many semesters does it take to get a degree or license
@cloudsunicorns194
3 жыл бұрын
@@dogcrazy25 it will cost 80,000.00
@sim_aware
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do! #SimTribe
@logictd567
3 жыл бұрын
I would be ashamed to tell people I’m getting ripped off. Lol
@samlee6152
3 жыл бұрын
Also, from the perspective of a patient, I couldn't care less about where my doctor went to med school. All I care about is, does this doctor have the empathy, skillset, and record of competency in medicine to help make me better?
@hamaadrahman4196
3 жыл бұрын
Step 1 becoming pass/fail will ultimately give more weight to the “reputation” of the medical school during residency applications. While I agree that residency matters more, with the change to step 1 to P/F, your med school May very well play a role in where you go for residency. For example an applicant from a small state school with a 260 vs an Ivy League with a 210 will both say “PASS”, but PDs will probably pick the Ivy League grad because of the school name. Maybe step 2 will fill in that role, but who knows.
@sim_aware
3 жыл бұрын
It is also going to mean the away rotations become much more important. If they know you and like you, that is better than the unknown. Always true but P/F puts more emphasis on it. We are looking at more simulations to assess applicant strength. #SimTribe
@thesneakygamer4343
3 жыл бұрын
I am an MS1, and unfortunately the residency directors at my school made it seem like letters of rec would be much more emphasized. So if you go to a top school, the person writing you a letter of rec could be world famous and that’s a big plus. I also think clinical grades will be more important as well, and those can be very subjective.
@youtlube7493
3 жыл бұрын
i highly doubt step 2 will fill in that role completely because its so easy, everyone already does well on it its hard to differentiate yourself just from that
@EscapeForTheSoul
3 жыл бұрын
Im an accountant in Quebec, and I can tell that school name matters, pretty much all the time if you want to join high league audit offices as EY / KPMG / DELOITTE / PWC. Usually, people that are working there can attest the education quality AND pretty much everybody comes from high league university! Here, usually, students from HEC Montreal or McGill are more « privileged » than other universities!
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point lol
@pg8982
3 жыл бұрын
Went to a DO medical school. Have colleagues who went to top-tier medical schools. I do the same shit they do, make the same exact amount of money they do, and at the end of the day, I am the same exact thing as they are. Where are you go to medical school doesn’t matter if your goal is to practice clinical medicine. If you want to run a research lab at a top-tier medical system, or if you want to be the head of the department at a prestigious hospital like Mass General, then yeah where you go to school and your pedigree matters. Outside of that narrow career aim, where you go doesn’t matter.
@mario-qq7bq
2 жыл бұрын
DO are just MD rejects
@mario-qq7bq
2 жыл бұрын
As a high schooler with a 4.0 I would never go to a DO school.
@BookieNelsJor
2 жыл бұрын
@@mario-qq7bq Your H.S. GPA is irrelevant. If you wanted to be a doctor, you would happily attend a DO school. If all you want is to attend an MD school, then yes, attending a DO school would not fulfill your goal. As for DO's being MD "Rejects", you are probably right. (I say probably because I have 2 classmates that turned down MD acceptances to attend a DO school) But at the end of the day, my future DO degree means I get to be a doctor and treat patients. Just like any MD. By the way, the doctor's video that you are commenting on is himself a DO.
@Nick_isk
2 жыл бұрын
@@mario-qq7bq with that mentality u wouldn’t be accepted anyway
@aliceazzun146
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I just wanted to kindly mention that some of the information presented in this video is a little misleading. A better way to assess how expensive a school is is to look at the average student indebtedness, not necessarily the published tuition costs. Many “prestigious” schools matriculate individuals with very competitive academic histories. Because of this, merit based scholarships are awarded to the majority of students for all four years. If you look at MSAR, Harvard has an average student reported indebtedness of 111,000, whereas many of the state allopathic programs have an average student reported indebtedness of approximately 200k. Also, some schools that are seen as “less prestigious,” have the highest student indebtedness. For example, many osteopathic schools, because of their private status, have average student indebtedness near 300k. So, while I agree that the medical school doesn’t make the doctor, cost and “prestige” do not always correlate. Just thought this insight could be useful to someone out there, namely premeds!
@bluewater3783
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that important information.
@shanes254
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Also, Harvard was not even on that list. lol. Columbia tops the list but it also has a new and generous need based scholarship that reduces student debt significantly or completely. People are often scared away from pursuing Ivy degrees without being given sufficient information. (Disclaimer, I am a Columbia student, employee and alum but not necessarily considering Columbia for med school. Just tired of the Ivy League schools being unfairly portrayed as money vacuums.)
@temporaryrelief2981
2 жыл бұрын
Facts, very true thanks for clarifying this!
@ashley7360
3 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, you were comparing Augusta’s semester tuition to Harvard’s yearly tuition!
@Web19814
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it truly doesn't make a difference. It's 2 semesters per year. That would be $65k at Harvard or instate in Georgia would be $28k. Out of state would have been closer to $50k. Not including all of the cost for room and board. No matter what Harvard would have been about $400k ( A HOUSE) and Georgia could be $200k-$300k (A house). What is crazy to me is that you spend $400k on a home and they give you 30 years to pay it off. That's a long ass time for a loan to be paid off. College tuition is becoming out of control. We want a better country, but some good people can't afford that. It's so sad
@wiwang1
3 жыл бұрын
All excellent points. True Med school isn’t as important as residency training but i think it does open more doors and provide more opportunities. You get to learb from the leaders in the field. Furthermore, I’d say that top Med schools are consistently ranking their graduates into higher tiered, more competitive residency programs and specialties. Sure you can rank into a top place from a lower tiered Med school, but I’d say that is less consistent.
@samuelsmithmed214
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say for more competitive specialties nowadays where you go to med school does matter. Since the USMLE is going to be pass/fail for my class (year 1 med student currently), you want everything possible that could help you to place into a better residency. Less standardized measures of comparing applicants = more subjectively and emphasis on thing like where you went to school. This means namesake of school by attending a well known university will weigh more and unfortunately I think it will affect IMG and DOs trying to get into more competitive specialties negatively and place more emphasis on those Ivey league grads. Personally now, I think it means more than ever where you go. And obviously attend IS over OOS if you aren't going Ivey League.
@farazr2
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video but a few things as someone who is currently going through the match for residency. 1. You need to look at DO and IMG schools as well for comparison. AZCOM has Harvard prices for example, without the benefits. Caribbean schools are often more expensive. 2. You need to look at match rates and subsequent specialization rates. As an IMG who did decently, the bulk of my interviews are at community hospitals and my co-interviewees are DO students. Low-tier USMDs still get mid-tier residency offers. 3. I think you're underestimating how important clinical interactions are to career choice. A bad attending, an overworked hospital ward, a brilliant mentor can have drastic effects on what you choose. Not just for Ivy league, but for even mid to low-tier programs. 4. Having resources, like a home hospital which is only guaranteed by LCME is a huge boon. In the pandemic, we've seen how med students with a home hospital can continue rotations, while those without struggled to find placement. It also means you're not having to travel and be displaced through your third and 4th years consistently. Overall, I'd say even if you're not looking at the Ivy club, your choice of medical school matters a ton. There are a lot of open doors people dont even recognize being open, that are closed for many applicants. I would 100% pay an extra 200k to get radiology or anesthesia programs to take me seriously and get that 400k+ salary over being a community FM doc forever.
@joshb2686
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t go IMG if you have the option, there are a lot more options going DO....definitely wouldn’t go to AZCOM or Patel....both will put you in over a half mill in debt after residency.
@SOCCERandSKILLS
3 жыл бұрын
I decided to pay extra to attend the “HMS/Penn/Yale tier”. Not only do most people get scholarships (so not many people pay the full $200k+), but as Dr. Cellini the name holds weight. It’s not just helpful for academia or research, it helps for those who know they really want to make world impact in an arena they’re interested in. While you do learn most of your skills in residency, again as Dr. Cellini stated, attending these schools does give you a slight upper hand for residency, especially with Step 1 being pass/fail (we are still not fully sure how this will affect residency applications). So if you’re debating between a “top school” or a cheaper state school, think a little bit deeper about your decision. Also happy to answer any questions ;)
@diksharawat6490
3 жыл бұрын
Your suggestions are also on fire... 🔥
@Jake-pw8rp
3 жыл бұрын
If out of state tuition at Augusta was 28k per semester the yearly cost of tuition is 56k. Thats only 8k less a year than Harvard.
@rivneat6964
3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more arguing that you should just go to an instate school
@Jake-pw8rp
3 жыл бұрын
@@rivneat6964 State schools arent really that much cheaper any more. Here in new york a state med school cost about 50k a year. Most private schools are about 60ish. Its not what it used to be.
@Jake-pw8rp
3 жыл бұрын
@@rivneat6964 Further paying that little bit extra for Harvard would be worth it in terms of doors it would open
@spartan997
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr. Cellini, thanks so much for making this video. I loved it, and have subscribed to your channel! I did want to talk about some of my opinions regarding this topic. Firstly, there is a lot of variation within the ivy league medical schools in terms of affiliated hospital systems, affiliated residencies, research funding and opportuntites, and rotation sites. Harvard is obviously the best of the best, and Penn, Columbia, Cornell, and Yale are not too far behind. Brown and dartmouth, however, do not have nearly the same caliber of affiliated hospitals or the research funding of the other five ivy league schools. They are still definitely top tier schools, but I think entering academia could potentially be easier via other schools. I'm sure the ivy league name helps, but it's difficult to quantify how much it helps. Secondly, there are elite state schools whose reputations within medicine are just as good as, if not better than, those of ivy league schools. Examples include UCSF, UCLA, UMich, UPitt, and UTSW. I think attending any of these schools is considered highly impressive within the medical communitiy and can open the same doors that ivy league medical schools can. At the end of the day though, regardless of which med school someone goes to, they will become doctors once they finish!
@DoctorMitnaul
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! There isn't enough emphasis on considering the culture of the school and students and working hard wherever you get in. I may have to chime in similarly on my channel. Thanks for the idea and keep up the great work!
@andrewhunter742
3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree! However; now that the USMLE Step 1 is pass fail, do you think that Med School prestige will now be a factor in residency placements?
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
I think it will be safe for the top school folks, but harder for everyone else
@callum4387
3 жыл бұрын
$400k that's crazy, it makes me realise how lucky I am to live in a country (Scotland) where it is free (government pays the full tuition) for my medical degree.
@bridie4583
3 жыл бұрын
It’s bonkers over there hey, down in Aus we can either have a commonwealth supported place, where we just contribute small fees or generally we can have our government essentially give us a loan that we don’t have to pay back until we are earning a decent wage. Can’t imagine building up so much debt that then accumulates so much interest 😱😱😱
@true4baby
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!! Your Channel doesn’t miss .. stay humble plzzzzz🫶🏽
@mememachine25dank37
3 жыл бұрын
If Ivy League medical schools weren’t so impossible to get into, I wud say that it’s a better option lol. I’m in a 6 year bs/do program which I would choose a hundred times over any Ivy League undergraduate program, despite my chances at a much better medical school. My goals are like the many other physicians of the US, to get a residency (IM) in a decent area where I can provide for both served and underserved communities. I’d most likely be doing this even if I were go to a top 10 medical school, however, it would take me much longer to do so compared the program I’m in. Gap years for the mcat, shadowing, and research on top of the 8 year minimum time would not be worth it to me, regardless of getting an IM residency in one of the best hospitals in the country. Getting to study medicine and being the person someone can rely on for their medical needs is why I and many docs chose medicine, which is possible through all medical programs regardless of prestige.
@PrincePalmUwU
3 жыл бұрын
Stuck between Mri Tech and CRNA 😞 I have a bad feeling that I will flock so bad and CRNA Med School is a pass or fail situation and your chances is only ONE!
@shyampatel3712
3 жыл бұрын
As a student at a top tier institution, I would like to clarify something regarding financial aid. I am grateful to say that I will be paying a total of ~100k for 4 years of education which is incredible.
@yellow8206
3 жыл бұрын
For medical school? How?
@emasarts
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos doc! You’re such an inspiration. I hope I become a doctor someday 😊
@linaS9479
3 жыл бұрын
Me a Swede, see the costs and getting a little bit shocked. Here we actually get paid (not that much but anyways) to go to university, and we almost have free healthcare. But in another way we don’t have these prestige-full university’s in the same way as you (in the US) and the taxes are WAY higher.
@davids2206
3 жыл бұрын
Most state schools are around $30k in tuition a year. Georgia is more of a cheaper exception
@MsSkal
3 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this video, very interesting 🧐... 💡 idea for next video as a sequel of this : “What are the criteria which are very useful for the acceptance of a residence program?”
@Thewiz729kdojdj
3 жыл бұрын
I think it should be noted though that while that may be the technical cost of attendence at harvard, i highly doubt the vast majority of students pay that much. students who are competitive enough to get into harvard are competitive enough to get into other schools and compete for scholarships. What may be a better statistic is looking at the average debt of the student coming out of harvard. i admit this may be a bit biased because more affluent students are probably more likely to be accepted to higher tier medical schools (for a variety of factors mainly attributed to having more opportunities. ultimately, the best stat may be to look at average debt leaving medical school normalized to net worth. good video non-the less
@LeetSkeetSkeet
3 жыл бұрын
I mean now that Step 1 is P/F......
@braxinator99
3 жыл бұрын
What are your feelings on Caribbean Med school (like SGU or Ross)? They have a stigma around them but if they are US credited, and still produce good SMLE scores, does it really matter?
@baileymclemore6065
3 жыл бұрын
I also want to know his opinion on this. My husband is looking for residencies and I honestly view the residencies with only residents from Caribbean medical schools as not as good. I also know people who were rejected from our low reputation state school and easily got into Caribbean schools. However, I dont know very much about those schools so I could be totally wrong.
@Chris-pt6hh
3 жыл бұрын
@@baileymclemore6065 Caribbean schools are for-profit, they'll take almost anyone who can pay. They have a horrible success rate and are pretty much scams.
@techpoint9540
3 жыл бұрын
What about Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, and Stanford. I figured those were equal?
@deepsinmedicine
3 жыл бұрын
You are amazing making me look at things much differently and considering I study medicine in a country far away from States. Even the country doesn't matter a slong as you are willing to learn.
@simonjones63
3 жыл бұрын
Same over here with Oxford and Cambridge..😁..you can argue the opening doors case but as regards medical education I’m not overtly convinced it’s any better and indeed there are many schools that have a better and more well rounded curriculum. Nice video 👏👏
@MohamedAhmed-wc3pw
3 жыл бұрын
I heard because of STEP 1 becoming Pass/Fail, in order to get good residencies your med school will actually matter more. What do you think of this?
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
I think setting yourself apart from everyone else matters far more than the name of your med school
@stephenessuman3342
2 жыл бұрын
Well reasoned.I really loved the analysis and perhaps the most well thought out...Thanks for doing what you do..
@mohama2018
3 жыл бұрын
I am really grateful to my government they not only teach us for free but give us a monthly stipend. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@cocogarcia3555
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another video on Med School Dr. Cellini!! You're one of the greatest sources of inspiration to me especially in my medical journey
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I can help!
@danyys817
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't pay anything for my schooling, since in Europe we don't. I earn around 4000€ per month as a Radiation Oncologist and am barely getting on with my mortgage and like...life. I couldnt even imagine having student loan on top of these crazy housing prices.
@TheTimWalczyk
2 жыл бұрын
...does anything matter anymore?
@007ETA73
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don’t think this takes into account that residency programs will now be looking at other factors such as a schools reputation for competitiveness since there is no longer a step 1 exam ranking. They will be looking at step 2 and since most students historically do well in step 2 they will have to use other factors to differentiate us. I think subjectivity and letters of rec or connections might play a big part. As an incoming medical student I’d love to get your feedback on the shakeup that’s happening right now.
@fredashay
Жыл бұрын
Just go live in the state you want to go to school at for a year before you enroll, then pay the in-state tuition. You can still take a bunch of your electives as non-matriculated student and get them out of the way during that year so that year isn't totally wasted. I was a computer science major, but I would think the same strategy would apply to medical school, law school, or whatever...
@jacko1380
2 жыл бұрын
i went to texas tech, practiced ER for three years, went into business and now 15 years later my net worth is 450mm (after taxes). no money in medicine practice but lots to be made in other places. true story.
@bradr637
2 жыл бұрын
I see the point and it definitely stands - but I think you may have been looking at semester costs in the public university vs yearly for Harvard. The out-of-state tuition at the state school said ~28k per semester which makes 58 a year compared to 64/year at Harvard.
@dd423d
3 жыл бұрын
The Georgia in-state and out of state tuition is not by year, but instead per semester. This can be a little misleading but the difference between a state school like the Georgia one is still way less the price.
@aamirrazak3467
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video doctor, as a current applicant it's very helpful!
@rodneyh1947
5 ай бұрын
It does matter nukka. Tell that to those carribean MDs that have yet to land a residency lmao
@bonsteration
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer knowing my Dr has graduated from McGill and love the MUHC approach of the teaching hospitals. I know tuition in Quebec is the generally the lowest in Canada, although I’m not sure when it comes to medical school. Example my son will have his degree in game design for just around 10,000 in Quebec University versus minimum 25,000+ in Ontario. NOT medical s hook of course but wonder how McGill measures up?
@DonnaBeautyxo
3 жыл бұрын
Id like to know if the medical schools in the Caribbean are considered to fit within the “second tier”
@rickmoss446
3 жыл бұрын
no. chances of matching are significantly lower for caribbean schools graduates.
@orrinrwilson
3 жыл бұрын
I agree that you can get any residency from any school, but from looking at residency matches, there seems to be certain schools that are great at matching certain specialties. For example, Penn state and Temple’s medical school have similar gpa and MCAT requirements, but Penn state matches twice as many orthopedic surgeons than Temple on average every year.
@imnotalec9877
3 жыл бұрын
True it "doesn't" matter but you should know that would apply to US but not in countries like singapore, if i were to study overseas and come to singapore and work, i would need Accreditation/ eligible/ recognised degree in other countries. its quite sad for me to live in a country in singapore as it is very competitive. :)
@SharaKennedy
3 жыл бұрын
Love these med school vids
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
I’m here for it
@bobfg3130
2 жыл бұрын
Biochemistry, biophysics, anatomy and all the other subject are the same. That's what you learn. Thing is medics say that you learn more during residency than during medical school.
@rachelt2482
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Dr Cellini! Have a good day! :)
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You too
@maseehbeda9060
3 жыл бұрын
Do schools that are not ivy league but competitive schools like mayo clinic UCLA NYU Stanford john hopkins etc open the door for students alsom some of these schools have higher ranking then ivy leagues.
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Yes of course, but not to the same degree Ivy League schools do
@KrazyNigerian14
2 жыл бұрын
I thought you explained it well. At the end of the day, when you initially go into med school you don't know exactly what you want to do or where you want to be. Arguably going to an Ivy opens the most doors compared to going to a mid tier medical school like I'm at right now. That said, where you go does matter to some extent. For example, I would highly advise against going to a Caribbean school. It's crazy to think that some people go to the Caribbean for the MD rather than stay in the states for the DO.
@EdD-ym6le
3 жыл бұрын
Good one . Genuine logical simple to understand advice from *_experience_* carries the most weight with me . Thanks , Hope your doing Well Doc 👍 .
@bobbyknight3589
9 ай бұрын
Yale and harvard carry weight like a engineering degree does especially mechanical or electrical engineering 🤷 Physics degree (phd especially) carry even more weight
@avedawg8
3 жыл бұрын
i didn't know your middle name was hollywood (as evidenced by your desk name plate), lol.
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 I’m surprised more people haven’t commented on that. My family likes to call me that as a joke
@towewedoittowe4038
3 жыл бұрын
I think your awesome and super enjoy your videos. We are from Atlanta. I’m in Nuclear medicine (technologist) my twins are at Tulane one who’s been asked to come to Harvard. So this is great insight. I appreciate you.
@dominiclundquist9577
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Cellini, great video! It actually helped me a lot in making a decision between my in state medical school and another school I have an acceptance at. I was hoping to get your thoughts on how much of an impact residency program directors place on an applicant's medical school now that step 1 will be pass fail. Do you think the rank of an applicants medical school will influence their acceptance (excluding ivy leagues)? Thanks!
@charlesgantz5865
3 жыл бұрын
Or, if you are worried about the cost, and are a U.S. citizen, try the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences. Cost: $0. They pay you. Living cost: They give you an allowance for living expenses.
@seanr.1212
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am an M4 going into radiology, potentially IR. I was hoping in the next month you could make a video about how you made your radiology residency rank list. I know you touched on this in a previous video, but I submit my list in a month and it would be great to know what residency features you recommend prioritizing. I was a UNC undergrad and UNC is likely going to be near the top of my rank list (btw there is a photo of you on their interview day powerpoint). Thank you!
@hsg2422
2 жыл бұрын
@Sean R where did you end up for residency? My daughter is currently an MS4 at UNC and she’s going to go into Family Medicine. The FM Residency at UNC seems to be very interested in her staying there for residency.
@alexwyler4570
3 жыл бұрын
Would you have had a residency in NY city if you had done med school at U of Georgia? maybe next video address that? How do you get the best residencies? Thank You
@bryndrson8289
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I got my degree from the Caribbean. Just as good if not better.
@downinflames15
2 жыл бұрын
me: gets accepted into one MD school at $62k a year for tuition alone... RIP good thing I can get lower interest federal loans to cover most of it.
@4321uchiha
3 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful im crying 😭
@alex61099
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this dr Cellini, my dream med school is Yale with a close second being either Harvard or NYU but now I have to really think about going to a state school! If I were to get a scholarship it would be helpful but we will see! Thank you so much!
@supernerd7093
3 жыл бұрын
no less arrogant to think your residency is top of the top. same thing should apply that you said about MED school. many great hospitals across the country where you can get great training from great doctors.
@joerozario4406
3 жыл бұрын
I believe you were comparing per semester fees of the in-state school vs per year fees for Harvard. in-state is still cheaper but not $14K per year.
@divinefeminist3611
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, did you go to MCG for real? I’m currently trying to decide whether to attend Mercer or Augusta University. If you have any insight on MCG or Mercer, that would be great! Thanks for making this video and hope you’re having a great day!
@aqualife88
3 жыл бұрын
He went to PCOM GA
@jeffreyvallejososa7514
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about how and what residency works plz I’m a first year premed
@summerdow7149
3 жыл бұрын
This is a really really informative video! Thank you for highlighting the cost of med schools and if the Ivy League education is really worth the big name. As a premed and having family in medicine, this is probably an obvious well known thing, but people I know who have gone to state med schools have always reminded me that just because you went and graduate from Harvard med school or any other Ivy League doesn’t mean that you have the common knowledge or sometimes compassion that is really really needed as a doctor, it’s the same for a state school, you could go there and do average but be the most compassionate caring doctor working in the hospital. Vice versa the other way also. I love that you touched on the benefits and cons maybe of going to different schools!! Thank you for this video!!!
@vladimyrhilaire3283
3 жыл бұрын
Incorrect, Augusta tuition is 14 grand per semester (14 credit hours).
@shanes254
2 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that this video didn't disclose the most important information, being that the elite universities also have the largest endowments, which often leads to more generous aid and, in many cases, less student debt.
@CDaeda
Жыл бұрын
How about Emory University in Georgia?
@iamtenrose7479
3 жыл бұрын
With step 1 scores becoming pass/fail the stupid Pads are gonna care about medical school. This is me giving my input as a non-US IMG applying this year lol.
@rodrigohuallanca662
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Cellini you are a DO, Harvard don’t have DO programs, only MD, I don’t think you can compare both and say is the same at the end of the day.
@AfroMedic
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Upstate medical university? I’m taking my time so I can work on the MCAT and my application next year. I’m graduating next spring 2022.
@gvalleygrl2007
3 жыл бұрын
yes, but I definitely look at dr's profile. I will pick a doctor who studied in the US vs out of country. Ivy League doesn't impress me. I would rather choose a doctor who went to state and is hard working person.
@christophersanford1457
3 жыл бұрын
I’m at the beginning of my medical education. Have you spent any time looking at programs that offer full tuition scholarships? There seems to be a big push for this. How can someone stand out when applying to these programs?
@yoh_ii
3 жыл бұрын
A nursing AS and BSN would be like.....17k at my state College 😂
@magnushanson8496
3 жыл бұрын
love the content
@InnerMeditation
3 жыл бұрын
So if you choose cheaper med school you will earn lower salary?
@DrCellini
3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Your specialty denotes salary
@victor1kojic
3 жыл бұрын
What if someone studied in Europe and wanted to do residency in the US?
@charlescoffey695
3 жыл бұрын
Great advise
@TheAmbassador1234
3 жыл бұрын
This video is full of so many gross generalizations and misleading information I do not even know where to begin... 1. Like many other people have pointed out, the top tier schools (going by USNWR) have large endowments that allow for very generous financial aid. There are far more no name low-tier MD schools or DO schools that have baseline tuitions that are more expensive (without the option of scholarships) 2. Your false dichotomy of Ivy vs. Non-Ivy tiers cannot be further from the truth. Would the average Joe you meet at a bar and your grandma be more impressed to hear that you go to Brown for med school than the University of Michigan? Sure. But truth is that anyone in the medical field knows that Brown as a medical institution is vastly inferior to Michigan. I see that you underestimate the reputation and prestige of non-ivy medical schools in the top tier such as UCSF, UCLA, U Michigan, WashU, Duke, U Pitt and etc. UCSF especially is considered a equal of Harvard and Johns Hopkins in the medical world (I'm surprised that you are not aware of this). Just take a look at Biden's Covid-19 task force and you'll find that 3 of its 13 members are UCSF faculty (more than any other medical school in the US). The point is that "Ivy medical schools" cannot be lumped in one tier like its undergrads are because schools like Brown, Dartmouth, and Cornell are just not considered the most prestigious elite medical schools. 3. "residency is more important than medical school"
@Sanyu-Tumusiime
3 жыл бұрын
what about stanford medical?
@mike112693
3 жыл бұрын
a lot of harvard and ivy students are not paying full price. They get scholarships/fin aid. Those that dont need scholarships probably come from rich families where 200k, 300k etc. isnt a big deal. This vid doesnt really tell the full story.
@lrebsten7155
Жыл бұрын
HE MISSED A KEY FACTOR. I went to a competitive high school - think 8 Nobel Prize winners. (The most of ANY HS in the country and we were the most in the world for over 60 years. Now a French HS has matched us with 8 Nobel Prizes). Yes, Ivory leagues travel in packs. But that is really only the top 25%-50%. The bottom just wasted their money. At Bronx HS of Science our graduating class was 800 students. (We are a Feeder School for the Ivory Leagues). That being said, imagine everyone’s horror that there was a nasty rumor saying each Ivory League will only take 15 students each. (Acceptance into Science was 3% whilst Harvard was 5%. So imagine a school EASIER to get into than your own giving you the big old turn down). 😂😂😂 No Ivory League wants their entire campus being turned into, “Bronx Science Town”. THINK Diversity, diversity, diversity. Now that diversity is in full swing, you have to remind yourself if you are not the top for your Residency; you just wasted your money doing a bit of overkill. And once you don’t land that covered Residency and had to SETTLE, people will see Harvard and FOREVER GRILL IN EVERY INTERVIEW ON WHY YOU WEREN’T IN THE TOP HALF of those getting into coveted Residencies, and what went wrong during your Harvard career. Even in Harvard there is the top 25% orbit of gold and everyone else. That 25% is a tight click. It is just best to get a feel for what Residency you want in Undergrad and work backwards. Start looking on the internet now and photocopy the entering Residents who were accepted on their website. (NYU puts theirs up). Look at where they went to medical school and see what medical schools keep popping up as accepted. (See if these schools are Ivory league or ultra competitive). But not to fret; the ultra competitive schools 98% of the graduating student body still get screwed. Start to look at the schools that pop up every now and again. (THINK DIVERSITY. But also start to think how you can use this medical school. If you ever get an interview kinda ask how those students you saw got into their Residencies from their training). They will be amazed that you did your homework. Look at the website every year and just print it out. 3 years should give you a feel for what medical schools you can go to and still get into your top Residency. But make sure to Google these people, because they may have went to an okay medical school, but something in their background has made them stand out that you will never have. (Think military, 6 years in the Peace Corps, being a former nurse or PA, being a Diplomatic Attaché, etc.).
@Pegasus257
3 жыл бұрын
What would you say to DO students who want to do your specialty?
@jcnlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Seasoned divorce lawyer here. I don’t know why this video came up in my KZitem feed, but it did and I watched it. Terrific video! Just my two cents: Harvard Medical School is in a crummy neighborhood. You made the right choice!
@maryblumreich9813
3 жыл бұрын
Is that a liquor bar in the background?
@chrislifts2981
3 жыл бұрын
Augusta says per semester??
@Docta_Dave
2 жыл бұрын
this video made me want to vomit. I'm graduating from one of the big Caribbean schools in April and I'll be in the same amount of debt as someone who went to Harvard's med school 🤢
@brucedienst7553
3 жыл бұрын
I want to do a general surgery residency at MassGen and I think going to Harvard would help with that
@roxyarredondo9451
3 жыл бұрын
Can your wife do one of these for like PA school?!! ❤️
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