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@Rokz_scribbles
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@brandoncooke389
4 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed this video! i also think that by honing in on one idea, you are already able to subliminally add other ideas to it with perspective.
@rottwielerking
4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Mowery Hey Tyler, I found this video interesting in that I connected a few dots from when I was attending film school I’m a new way- I know you used the example of Whiplash representing greatness, and whether it’s worth sacrificing for or not, but can you give other specific examples, or better yet a list of central ideas that have driven stories?
@illusions3d
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@purityancerjallah4643
4 жыл бұрын
tyler mowery am a new writer i use to study in ur video and have help me to be more competitive in script write thanks
@anapaulatirado
4 жыл бұрын
it took me a while to really understand that my first scripts won't be perfect, and me being the perfectionist I am, never finished a script cause of the fear of it being terrible. Your videos have helped me to not hate my ideas and trying to finish a story once :). thanks
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear!
@kevinspazm
4 жыл бұрын
Word! Tyler's course is a real gem. 💎
@donaldaribam
4 жыл бұрын
Ana Paula Tirado wish you all the very best.
@Patrick-pc3vq
4 жыл бұрын
Same problem here man.
@_somestuff
4 жыл бұрын
@@valhatan3907 Same
@BriangjohnsonTv
4 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is beautiful.
@UltimateKyuubiFox
4 жыл бұрын
The genius of Inception is that it obscures its simple theme with details. Inception, at its core, is a story about the narratives we construct to deal with grief. The entire story-universe is built to externalize this theme. Cobb cannot deal with the death of his wife, and he can’t deal with it because he feels he caused it. He implanted the narrative in her subconscious that led her to kill herself. The need to stop constructing narratives and to accept reality is the fundamental fixture of the entire story. It’s where we end the film. And the ambiguity of the spinning top is to ask us whether or not he’s succeeded. Has he lied to himself and fallen deep into a delusion? Or has he truly achieved catharsis and found a way to move on? If this fundamental narrative question wasn’t present in the story, the whole film would be a meaningless exercise. Inception is not about a heist. They aren’t going there to take something, they’re trying to leave something behind-make a businessman accept the lie that his deceased father was proud of him. By the end, the businessman has accepted this false narrative and it’s going to screw him over. What we’re meant to ask is whether Cobb has met a similar fate.
@Cesar_09_
3 жыл бұрын
The heist is the external problem and Cob’s guilt is the internal problem
@TwistVisuals
3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes! Exactly
@McGradyKalcho
3 жыл бұрын
inception suck, barely mediocre movie. only original think would be incepting dreams, but it actually is not, cause they stole it from Paprika.
@RedLaneArts
2 жыл бұрын
@@McGradyKalcho What is your favourite Anime?
@beekenko2379
4 жыл бұрын
Tyler gives all the gems unfiltered and learned more in one video than I did in 4 years in film school...
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words!
@ThreesixnineGF
4 жыл бұрын
Ah crap! What if my moral is "Things are always more complicated than we expect them to be!" ?
@ryannixon4138
4 жыл бұрын
Guess the writing process was more complex than you expected ;p
@urb7355
4 жыл бұрын
Gues then The hero might assume something and make plans according to his beleifs that World/Life is easy but at last he fails and someone or himself makes him realize your moral.
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Then you make sure your story focuses on that idea and not 5 other ideas. That’s still one central idea.
@guicaldo7164
4 жыл бұрын
Stories can still tackle different angles of a complex idea. I love doing that in my screenplays. But it's still just one idea being tackled
@ThreesixnineGF
4 жыл бұрын
@@TylerMowery I was kidding with that question but yeh I still need to cut the many edges in my story's themes.
@nathanieljosephgutierrez
3 жыл бұрын
I'm an inexperienced writer but writing a story allows me to create new world where anything is a possibility. It allows me to reflect on my inner most thoughts that I wasn't aware. I wish to continue this journey and someday earn a living through writing. Thank you so much for all the value you provide in this community and hope for more success to come.
@guicaldo7164
4 жыл бұрын
Never before have my thoughts on arthouse films been summed up so neatly. If your film is vaguely artistic but confusing, it's not deep - that's just bad storytelling. I think movies that get complex ideas across while still engaging and entertaining the audience are far superior
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree
@dally1398
4 жыл бұрын
Gui Caldo Are there any arthouse films that succeed at being entertaining? When I first heard that phrase I thought “oh god those movies are probably boring and pretentious”
@guicaldo7164
4 жыл бұрын
@@dally1398 There are three that I can think of: Joker, Pan's Labyrinth and Snowpiercer. The former is more controversial, but I've met very few people that didn't adore Snowpiercer. It's a Korean action film that succeeds at being a simple, dumb action movie with a strong protagonist, a clear goal, forward momentum, and tight pacing. But beneath all of that there's so much more to unpack. Not only is the protagonist an excellent character with a strong emotional journey and a powerful choice at the end, the film also makes an in-depth commentary about class. At surface level it seems to be saying "rich bad, poor good", but if you dive further in there are more and more layers to unpack. Pan's Labyrinth is slower-paced, but talks about the nature of escapism and gives a fascinating insight into the mind of a child while going through real world traumas it doesn't comprehend. Basically, these movies take their messages and deep themes and tie them into the story and characters. So they're essentially normal, compelling movies but where every single tiny element contributes towards the message they're getting across. Tl;dr: There are incredibly entertaining and engaging arthouse movies out there, they're just few and far between.
@GoldenSpoon109
4 жыл бұрын
This video is the biggest IKR, that’s what annoys me most about video essay culture hands down.
@joaquinhernandez6940
4 жыл бұрын
When I started writing screenplays, I was too focused on the excitement rather than the actual story structure. I learned from the experience, and now I have 3 other scripts that Ibam working on.
@camiloeimbcke987
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think I understand now what Werner Herzog meant in his masterclass, when he recommended this book, the peregrine and said it was great because it could focus so deeply on one thing.
@donaldaribam
4 жыл бұрын
I strongly agree. Three months into outlining my story I drove myself absolutely bonkers not having a clear idea what the message of my fondly written story might be. Then I tried to lay them out in writing, going through each of my character arcs and I ended up with something very similar to one of your slides with all sorts of arbitrary states of minds like, Ambition, Arrogance, Expectations, Disappointment, Depression, Contemplation, Atonement, Humility, and the list went on and on. After condensing everything down to one simple subject, in my instance, Societal Norms - What could be sustained & what could be done without, I not only found the THEME of my story but it came with it an Ambiguity that I have always wanted to incorporate in my story.
@justina3901
4 жыл бұрын
Really liked this video and the message. Was a bit of a deviation from your usual vids, but was refreshing in that it felt like I was listening to a friend in a living room getting passionate about a perspective
@maikelgonzalezart
4 жыл бұрын
Tyler your videos are being a great help for me. I'm in my way from visual arts and video art to film and screenwriting. This specially is one of those problems that I have, complexity of the story. As I came from visual arts I use to think on image before thinking on story or conflict. So I had this problem many times. I am learning how to simplify with out affecting the ideas I want to express. This has been a hard work till now, but i keep strugling. Thanks for your time and your ideas...
@chekitatheanimatedskeptic6314
4 жыл бұрын
that same trend happens in many philosopher's books or articles. There is even an app that produces ridiculous paragraphs that mimic this type of writing. Altough I don't think Im ambiguous, I have deep problems on simpliflying.
@Dylan-bo6nu
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos! it helps me a lot. I make a script for my short film: "On the way to nothing". So really thank you!
@Entratardeysaltemprano
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos, way to go Tyler! I find it absurd when no one talk about this when they talk about screenwriting. To me, this is, actually, one of the most important things, even before you start writing. It took me a loooot of time to figure out that you CAN´T start a screenplay if you don´t know the central theme or idea. To me, that´s the first question you should ask yourself before sit and wander around pages for months: What's this story about? Which one is the main theme? Let´s take a look on some other examples: Three Billboards Outside Ebbings Missouri isn´t about a mother trying to deal with police and justice, is a story about RAGE and how to handle it, even all characters move around that idea. Onward is about BROTHERHOOD, not about magicians and fantasy. Her is about LONELINESS not about the future of the OS. Jumanji (2017) is about GROWING UP, and Jumanji (2019) is about FRIENDSHIP, they´re not about a bunch of guys running on a jungle. Once you know your main theme, it will be easier to start writing, but if you´ve been writing for months and don´t know where the problem is, usually you´ll find it on the lack of main theme or lack of premise. Source: A loooot of workshops I´ve been attending for several years and a loooot of writers struggling with this problem (myself included for a loooot of time)... Once again, congratulations on your video and your channel! Greetings from México!
@cosmicprison9819
2 жыл бұрын
Inception is one of my favourite movies, and I agree you shouldn’t try to write something like this as a first story. However, not because it’s too complex - but because it’s a plot-driven story, rather than a character-driven one. It took a long time until I even got the protagonist’s name correctly. It’s much harder to write a “Heist” type of story and make it interesting, because that entirely rests on how interesting the plot itself is. Even the Inception writers themselves couldn’t quite replicate it with “Tenet”. If anyone doubts that the focus is not on characters here, just remember that in Tenet, the protagonist is actually indeed just named “protagonist” ;) .
@Kishan_Baijnath
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the thing I'm dealing with right now. Thank you, Tyler. :)
@mauriciovenegas2715
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Tyler, I love your videos, thank you very much for clarifying the ideas. George Lucas said "it's about good and evil, what makes a hero, friendship, what is the idea of sacrificing oneself for something greater?" I think I got confused there
@kirankumar4589
4 жыл бұрын
I'd agree to this, I noticed it myself , but then the next question is how do we prioritise the ideas and decide which idea we have to first work on.
@ernolaunis
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again. I was just thinking about this.
@darryl0745
4 жыл бұрын
Incredible! You actually put that into words. I am always simple and consice.
@shawnpyke5521
3 жыл бұрын
light shooting through a prism. it is ONE beam of light, one idea split up into all of its parts. each part might SEEM like it is unique or a different idea, but really it is just a part of the main idea. if you want to have a more wide spectrum of ideas in a script, they should just be different ways to express the same idea, a conversation from multiple standpoints. if it doesnt relate back to the central idea then you are making two movies and neither one will be good.... probably...
@unpluggedfamily1404
4 жыл бұрын
I really wish you had a podcast!
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Something is in the works 👀
@artiscralabs3688
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, just brilliant.
@kripacherian8232
4 жыл бұрын
The laugh in the middle With the irony😂😂
@mhdai83
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the important information 👍
@frederickuhn377
2 жыл бұрын
Thats the advice i need
@Greenwrath5514
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler, just wanted to know how you’ve been holding up during the quarantine? Has it made things easier for you to write?
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Been holding up well! Been working on rewriting a feature. Quarantine is simply a new routine. And for me it gives me even more time to focus and write.
@jimm3370
4 жыл бұрын
A fantastic and insightful piece on a fundamental aspect of the writer's craft. OK... this is going to be a looong comment. Tl; dr: Using screenwriting techniques is a powerful springboard in learning the writing craft. And if you're willing to add a toolbox of marketing skills you can earn a delightful lifestyle self publishing novels. OK, here we go... In late April of 2012, at the age of 54 I decided that I was going to 'Write that book'. I was driving a taxi in a mid-size city of about 100K pop. I had written a couple of unpublished short stories, and one newspaper article. In 60 days I vomited out 90K words of puke. To me, it was by far the greatest novel ever written. When I looked into what the process was of getting published I was crushed. By clicking a link, I learned that there was this thing called 'Self-Publishing' and that the Amazon co had a venue for it. And I went for it. My wife also got on board, and together we started writing a series of really, really terrible books. But we kept at it, and over the course of about 5 years learned enough of the craft and enough of marketing that we started making decent starvation wage $. (About 30K/year US) But with each new skill we developed, it built on the previous set. I'm talking the range from (no kidding) proper punctuation and typing of dialogue all the way to story arc, character journey, etc etc. Today we have a comfortable lifestyle. Not great guns, but about $80-100K/year and we really don't work all that hard at it. Maybe 3/4 hrs a day. Please excuse the humble brag, but I'm trying to illustrate the point that even if you don't know jack shit about what Tyler's discussing, you can learn it. Constant application over time builds up. Looking back from where we are today to where we were 8 years ago... whoa. So if you're overwhelmed by Tyler's teaching a newbie to simplify and write, don't be. Keeping it simple is how I started to enjoy the small success I have (there are hundreds of ppl doing what I do that think my $$ is small change... seriously...) My point is that Tyler, you know your shit, and this is an excellent video. Out of 118K subscribers, you only have 1% who have watched this. You gotta put in the work, but it will pay off. If a potato head like me can make money at this gig... anyone can; if they're willing to do the work. I completely agree w/ Tyler on the need to kill darlings. That applies to themes as well as characters/ scenes/ chapters etc. It's super important. When I start a new book, I usually don't even know what the theme is at the beginning. It's not until I'm about 5-10% in that I sit back and figure that out. And yeah, I land on ONE. All my sub-plots, supporting characters, narrative observations serve to support that theme. Again, an excellent piece, Tyler. You're an awesome teacher.
@illusions3d
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@sensorydetail7438
4 жыл бұрын
Don't think we don't notice you gradually placing the camera closer and closer to you throughout the videos on your channel. :P
@stagelinedpro
4 жыл бұрын
A simple story in retrospect can take on several different meanings.
@JoJo-xp6wr
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Tyler, thanks again, but on the group, I want to submit a draft screenplay to the other writers, any video about that, what software to use in writing screenplays, and also, I am having an absolute Blast in the writers' group!!
@cboweekly1932
4 жыл бұрын
if you need an app, one that isn't too bad is trelby
@cjkalandek996
4 жыл бұрын
You could use Trelby, Celtx, or use Studiobinder's screenwriter on their website. I use Final Draft, but I go that for 35-40% off.
@JoJo-xp6wr
4 жыл бұрын
@@cjkalandek996 well, they say studiobinder is more advanced
@cjkalandek996
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-xp6wr Maybe. Never used it. But Final Draft is advanced and I know my way around it just fine.
@cjkalandek996
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-xp6wr Here. Try it out. It's free. www.studiobinder.com/scriptwriting-software/
@greggeverman5578
4 жыл бұрын
2nd watch! Always helpful Tyler!
@AseAPS
4 жыл бұрын
Man we agree on a ton of stuff. Love the videos 😀
@clintcarpentier2424
4 жыл бұрын
I posted this to facebook a couple days before you put up this video. ---------------- I just saw a thumbnail saying "Christian movies are not good". I'm not knocking christians here, because they aren't the problem. The problem is ideology; you know, the blinders coupled with tinted lenses in echo chambers. So, I like skillet. I'm not a fanboy, but I like... like a dozen songs so far. It's a crying shame that they come off as SJW's; I mean, last I checked, their front-man is going through a lumber-sexual phase, but some of their songs come off as clear SJWism. So getting back to the "ideology is what ruins X entertainment". Skillet's song "Not Gonna Die" is fucking awesome, no doubt, I fucking love it. I recently finished writing a book, and there's a scene where this song plays in my head and... it's heart wrenching (and I hope that's not just me). And then, Skillet slaps this video on it. kzitem.info/news/bejne/z6CAnYKQhnpoY4I Someone in the comments tried to explain what's going on, and he might be right, but the video is shit. And I'm not even talking about the animation, I can get past the animation; you put a top class animator on the job of fixing the art, it won't help. Speaking of bad animation, Ima go drown myself in some Arifureta Skillet AMV's now... kzitem.info/news/bejne/0airp4afjINhnHY kzitem.info/news/bejne/mp-nn6mbmJdooGk kzitem.info/news/bejne/0ISYmnWiip6Fp3o
@Johnn84
4 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to TV-series, or only filmscripts? What is the main idea with for example Game of Thrones?
@rowanstandishhayes6703
4 жыл бұрын
When you play the Game of Thrones you either win, or you die/ the tension between power and madness/ in facing new dangers, can a world stop squabbling ... it seems you could make arguments for a few central ideas, and I think it is the same with films. Maybe the answer lies in the writer's mindset when creating a story, rather than a critics ability to deconstruct the final product.
@rowanstandishhayes6703
4 жыл бұрын
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster Which is?
@PhatLayCes7825
4 жыл бұрын
I do hear what you are saying. But how do you make it an original idea? How do you make a simple coming of age story fill the pages if you decide on not being complex? For example, a nobody from the gutter boxer all of a sudden he gets a lifetime opportunity to face the champion. He trains hard and wins as an underdog.
@Jacob-gu3in
4 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to keep your single theme/idea present throughout every scene without making it badly obvious? What are ways to distract/step away from the theme for a few seconds without introducing new concepts that crowd the main idea?
@ashinchakraborty5299
4 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on how to make characters change ? I know a few templates but they get repetitive and I get stuck at the end
@ryannixon4138
4 жыл бұрын
I swear half of all the "literary classics" have this problem and my English teachers gobble them up
@Bewareofthewolves
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Nixon Any examples?
@H2000-g4d
4 жыл бұрын
I'm at the beginning of writing my first feature film for practice in lockdown. I have a selection if ideas and a vague concept but I am struggling to identify a specific story - any ideas with how to really start? Thanks great video
@gamesgabriel8950
4 жыл бұрын
So, I'm writing and I have everything in mind, every character and every scene. Note: I'm not writing a screenplay, but a book Idk, I'm with this idea for more then a year and I literally just writed 400 words. I spend more time thinking every detail about the history and I can't write. So I decided to write a short paragraph showing what happenes in each scene and the consequences, and after that I would start writing each scene, but I feel like the history won't be great. I mean, the ideia is great and the characters change through the book but basically A LOT of bad things happens (deaths, murderer) and the history is about this and I dont thing people would like to read this What should I do?
@ArtTriad
4 жыл бұрын
Gold
@juju10683
Жыл бұрын
I tried to write three different features before I got a story simple enough to finish.
@amannagar1108
4 жыл бұрын
Great
@JoJo-Hamilton
4 жыл бұрын
Film... To make a Film... Costs involved. Money needed. Time is money. Actors. Etc, etc,. Movie? Story? Write the book first...
@brunobilandzija1823
3 жыл бұрын
so true... =)
@lafeumee4730
4 жыл бұрын
What if the 5 themes are related to each other?
@JillRobertsIsmyGF
4 жыл бұрын
Man this is the most heated I've seen him
@ivanaowona9146
4 жыл бұрын
How to know that I actually have many ideas in my story ? Because I'm more of a story-teller, before learning the writing Technics
@marcogianesello6083
4 жыл бұрын
You should have specified the purpose of the advice, i think it came from a good place and it has its merit as far as practical advice go, the way it's formulated however it pretty much works as just an excuse for people to feel validated in knocking down whatver movie was too dense and intelligent and artistic for them and let go of any desire to understand screenwriting on a deeper level because this video seems to suggest that engaging the audience with self explanatory ideas is sign of good writing and if you don't get what the hell it's about then it's not doing its job properly, now THAT is damaging to new writers, "make a check and balance of your amibition" is not the same as "ambition is just nonsense fake meanings people project o films because they wanna find it when it's not there", that seems like you putting up your own taste or, no offence, lack there of, as an arbitrary meter of definition. Also you didn't give the one important distinction of what an idea even is, you seem to mistake idea for theme, or for subtext or message, you can take a lynch film and reduce it to one central idea and still people will not get what it is about because the way the idea unfolds and the language lynch uses to sew his tapestry is so unique, you take people analyzing complex films and what they say about them and assumr that it's either a projection people make up or that the writer director took a pen and said I'm gonna have this to mean this and that to mean that and so on and so forth resulting in some metaphor ridden fever dream, that's not how anyone good actually writes, but that doesn't mean that a critic extracting a sort of metaphor from a film is implying automatically that the writer came up with the metaphor and then put it down, not the most surrealist batshit crazy writer comes up with a shopping list of themes or metaphors he wants to put down and translate, ideas unfold naturally from one core to many others that manifest themselves in different ways, some in the characters, some in the themes, some in the conflict, some in the plot, some in the aesthetics; the writer/director himself might not really have articulated them but often they just feel right to him, because an artist goes on intuition in the moment he actually creates, no matter how much thought went into it before, you took the idea of, "don't confuse an account of deep subtext and themes listed by a critic as a formula for a good script but instead focus on the execution and then asses how ambitious you can be" ans turned it into "yeah arthouse cinema is a bunch of old men pretending to be smart jerking each other off with big words and if you didn't like 2001 a space odyssey or mullholand drive it's because actually there's nothing to see in them and your entertainment is the measure of artistic merjt of something", maybe that wasn't the intent, or maybe that's actually what you think, whatever the case that's how it came off and it's abhorringly simplistic, a better advice would be to distinguish between theme, aesthetic, plot, and how ideas are conveyed through them,, cause as it stands fron what i've seen , in the comments it's people completely misunderstanding what "idea" even means
@making.food1392
4 жыл бұрын
You should have stated your point in a much simpler and shorter form for better understanding and split your writing into paragraphs. It was a little hard to read and comprehend. However, I agree with you to a great extent. Something is missing in Tyler's explanation. I am not a new writer considering I have written five/six scripts but didn't attend film school. I hope to later but I have confidence in my writing skills considering all I have learnt online for some time now. Regardless, I keep learning which is why I wish Tyler gave a clearer picture of his explanation. I write three to four ideas and I know how to bring my points together at the close or at any given point. Tyler saying... don't do that, I wish he depicted his explanation with practical examples. I ended up writing too much too.
@胖胖熊-l8r
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tyler. this video is amazing and it has been soloved a lot of problems for me in writing . Could i translate this video into another website which is BLIBLI(China`s KZitem .) im glad to see you will have a lot of fans in china . I'll make it clear who the original author is and where your website are
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Sure that’s fine
@胖胖熊-l8r
4 жыл бұрын
@@TylerMowery thank you
@himanshugusain3283
4 жыл бұрын
Bro what have you written , please tell me, how many scripts🤔🤔
@happyandhealthy888
2 жыл бұрын
or to some degree at least.
@chaeyoungvideos5742
4 жыл бұрын
I always get hyped whenever a new Tyler Mowery video pops up
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@louisianaboyjames2660
4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@cclaraoliveira
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing advice. I feel like we spend too much time looking at genius filmmakers and everything they're able to accomplish and in the end of the day we feel like if we're not able to achieve that level of greatness in our first tries then we're failures, but that's not true at all.
@ZheRabbit
4 жыл бұрын
Bro. Talk about perfect timing, this is exactly what I need while writing a script for a play at school
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@mikahong
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler. Just wanna say I'm glad I found your channel. Your advice has an unapologetic tone to it, just something I don't get very often in film school. I'm not naming any names but certain mentors have this "I'm right, you're wrong, shut up" attitude I find irritating. I don't feel that way with you. Please keep doing what you do.
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words!
@lunabloom4913
4 жыл бұрын
He is a smart young guy in love with movies and writing. You are inspiring.
@FabianEllis
4 жыл бұрын
Just realised that this was the problem with JK Rowing’s Fantastic Beasts script- there were way too many concepts and ideas going on in that film! It makes sense because Rowling put loads of stuff into her books and it worked but i in a movie u hav to be more focused. Fantastic video!
@JNFilms
4 жыл бұрын
A film I see a lot of my screenwriting friends tackle in complexity is ‘Inception’ (first film to come to mind even before you mentioned it) and I’ve found that more harmful than beneficial to their works. People seemingly understand ‘Inception’ with having multiple central ideas, but at the same time Nolan spent a decade working on the story/script. A film I personally faltered with when I got into screenwriting was ‘The Tree of Life’ and ever since I’ve spent close to a decade having to reteach myself about the balance between literalism and allegory.
@alexman378
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly, as soon as I saw your comment, first thing I thought was “yeah, but he spent ten years getting it ready and analyzing it, he didn’t do it in a week and went to shoot it.
@aah4735
4 жыл бұрын
ok unpopular opinion but honestly inception's writing is shit, the dialogue is almost always exposition, nolan likes telling over showing, and it feels really clunky. same thing with memento too, the characters are all exposition. obviously the plot is complex and confusing but nolan really goes overboard. if i were to watch it chronologically i would probably just walk out of the theater, lol
@YoBaMo1
4 жыл бұрын
aah I found inception to be extremely easy to understand but the reason for all the exposition is because Christopher Nolan said in an interview that he was worried that if he use subtext and rely on visuals, the audience won’t understand his movies since his movies are made for the everyday general audience.
@aah4735
4 жыл бұрын
@@YoBaMo1 i think nolan should have more faith in the intelligence of his everyday general audience
@YoBaMo1
4 жыл бұрын
aah His Executive don’t think that. I mean when the Matrix was made the executive didn’t have no idea what the movie is about even though it’s easy to understand.
@regentneo
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can do a video how these complicated, multi-themed scripts do it in a clear and artistic way, such that it feels right. Because I'm sure there are many scripts out there with multiple themes with several central ideas as well
@ocubex
3 жыл бұрын
It's an easier conversation if you can give us as an example of a great script with multiple themes.
@Longshotsz
4 жыл бұрын
4:30 someone plz write this book
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
And send me a copy!
@Ruylopez778
4 жыл бұрын
It practically writes itself
@theaddictofgaming9174
4 жыл бұрын
That's just a book about culture, right?
@FilmScoreandMore
4 жыл бұрын
At first, I thought he started with "poverty" and went straight to cooking, so it was even funnier!
@garfieldhainzor2216
4 жыл бұрын
I think you're speaking about one type or approach to filmmaking and I think it's important to make that clarification - you're speaking from a three-act structure, classical Hollywood filmmaking point of view. I like those films too, I have studied it and write stories within that structure. You're trying to claim the entirety of cinema as filtered through this one mindset. You're pigeonholing an entire artform. Telling writers to be wary of ambiguity is dangerous. Because intentional ambiguity in storytelling can be a powerful tool. Yes, I absolutely agree that writers just starting out should learn the basics, learn to walk before you can run. Focus is a good thing. But if you asked Dali to draw a realistic drawing of a still life, he absolutely could. Because he learnt how to walk. But we remember him how he ran, with his pioneering efforts in surrealism. This pigeonholing is going to dissuade Dali from surrealism. There is room for all types of filmmaking.
@marinpavelic5122
4 жыл бұрын
Never try to convey your idea to the audience - it is a thankless and senseless task. Show them life, and they’ll find within themselves the means to assess and appreciate it. - Andrei Tarkovsky
@greggeverman5578
4 жыл бұрын
Huh... Maybe so...
@geniosityfilms
4 жыл бұрын
"When a story comes out and nobody understands it and finds it confusing and weird, a lot of people try to assign meaning to it that it doesn't have to make it seem interesting. They say it did these seven things that was so intelligent, but in reality it just wasn't." That's exactly how I felt about BvS, The Last Jedi, and Cloud Atlas.
@cosmicprison9819
2 жыл бұрын
As a musician, I don’t actually consider Whiplash a good movie - and despite not being a Jazz musician myself, I agree with Jazz musician Adam Neely on most of his points against the accuracy of the depiction of events here. Whiplash could have been about an aspiring olympic athlete, and it would have been the same story. It takes music as a setting, and then turns the personal vanity that’s already rampant in shows like Glee and takes it to 11. I know why I love music, but I never really understood why the protagonist of Whiplash (forgot his name already) likes music. It only seems to be a tool for him to improve his personal status - but in whose eyes? Pretty much only in those of his tyrannical teacher. He doesn’t make music to impress girls or something, like in most other “teenage band” movies. That is actually something I like, the acknowledgement that passionate musicians make music for the sake of it, not as a form of courting behaviour. However, the movie utterly fails to depict the reason for the protagonists passion for music. It’s like a cynical, twisted version of Albert Hammond’s song “The Free Electric Band”, where the singer happily dumps his girlfriend to keep *enjoying* life with this band. And in contrast to a music student, like in Whiplash, he actually drops out of college for that, too.
@christopherrivera1673
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed with almost everything and the point of the video is good advice. But I don't think art has to be philosophical and really, movies just butcher the ideas of genuine philosophers. What is wrong with movies being "merely" entertainment? Entertainment is important; entertainment is the reason philosophers philosophize and also why artists create art. Of course, movies can be thought of philosophically but this is just because they are made by people, who like all of us have some kind of thoughts behind our decisions. Alex Kierkegaard: 873. All enjoyment comes from learning. Even pure hedonism is a type of sensory learning. 147. Prometheus. It is supposed to contain all these "deep philosophical questions" whereas in fact it contains nothing but a couple of childish, outdated non-questions such as "where do we come from?", and do you "believe in God?" - questions that have nothing to do with modern, twenty-first century philosophy. Where do we come from? - there's not the slightest doubt about that: we come from apes who come from primates who come from single-cellular organisms, all the way back to the Big Bang. As for whether we come from "elsewhere", EVERYTHING comes from elsewhere at some point, so there's no mystery there. Even if something "greater" made us, that greater thing was made by combining smaller things, and so on and so forth. Subhumans have no interest in "deep philosophical questions" but merely in seeing action charades on a big screen, and the entire "did other lifeforms make us?" question has nothing philosophic about it but is merely a pretext, a setup, for a battle of us against yet another alien race. Nothing wrong with that - it's great entertainment - but to take it as a "deep philosophical question" is ludicrous. Same with the retarded questions about "belief in God", and any other such grossly outdated shit, which are anyway handled hamfistedly and awkwardly by the script. Prometheus is a good film, but it has nothing to do with philosophy for christsake - at least not any more than any other film. In short, "deep philosophical questions" are only asked - and answered - in philosophical works, duh, and if you still expect show business people or novelists or journalists or clowns or gypsies or priests or politicians, or your fucking aunt Bertha, to pose, much less answer them, you need to have YOUR FUCKING DNA CHECKED. 667. There is no such thing as a perfect analogy; all analogies break down at some point, because if they didn't, the situations wouldn't be analogous but equal. And we've already cleared up that can of worms. 732. The Da Vinci Code. A bunch of silly hocus pocus. A film or a novel in the Da Vinci Code vein, but with the real secrets instead of silly hocus pocus. But here's the catch: this is impossible. For if the excitement and the thrill of 13 billion years of evolution could be condensed into a 300-page novel or a two-hour feature film, what would be the point of the universe's existence? That's why the universe is the artwork that must be lived (or "the game that must be played", as Arthur Rubinstein put it). And the plot of artworks like the Da Vinci Code must be nonsense, to one degree or another, since the only plot that can be completely logical, consistent and coherent is the universe's, which takes billions of years to fully unfold, and perhaps even more. Do you see now how retarded it is of the subhumans to seek enlightenment in art and entertainment in philosophy instead of the other way around? 1005. Journey of an Idea, from the heights of Genius to the Gutter. 1. Friedrich Wilhelm NIETZSCHE: There are no facts, only interpretations. 2. Jean BAUDRILLARD: You mean that all viewpoints are equal? That the simulacrum is never what hides the truth, that it is truth that hides the fact that there is none? That the simulacrum is true? That there's no reality??? Damn, how depressing! 3. Laurence and Andrew WACHOWSKI: You mean that there is a clear distinction between reality and illusion? Awesome idea bro, we wrote a movie about it, wanna help film it? 4. Jean BAUDRILLARD: I said NOTHING OF THE KIND! I in fact said THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're saying! You are complete and utter morons and I want nothing to do with your stupid movie! 5. Laurence and Andrew WACHOWSKI: Ummmm, whatever bro, the movie's already out and your book is in the first scene, sorry. We're already working on the sequels! 6. Mencius MOLDBUG: Hmmmm, The Matrix is such an insightful movie! I especially liked the metaphor of the red and blue pill! Who'da thunk that the distinction between truth and lies is clear-cut and all you need to see it is swallow down a pill! Those Wachowskis are such geniuses! Let me now take this earth-shattering insight and apply it to all our contemporary issues! 7. Alex "ICYCALM" Kierkegaard: Uhhh, guys, Baudrillard simply misunderstood Nietzsche's perspectivism. Nietzsche wasn't saying that all interpretations are equal, he was merely saying that nothing exists besides interpretations and that it was the Overman's job to impose his own intepretation on his environment just as mankind has been doing since the beginning, and the animals before that all the way back to the Big Bang. [This user has been banned for this post.] 8. MANOSPHERE: Moldbug is such a genius! It all makes sense now! It's all THE JEWS' fault! (((THEY))) warped reality with all their evil blue pills! They... write books and stuff and they... make movies! DEATH TO THE JEWWWWWWWWWWWS!!!!!!! 1002. On the unfathomably wide reach and influence of the philosophers. Did you know that the DC Comics character Superman, who essentially launched the entire superhero fiction genre, was inspired by Nietzsche? It's true, look it up. He is basically a crude debasement, a caricature really, of Nietzsche's ideas on the subject (but that's okay because all art is caricature; that's the whole point of it). Would Nietzsche have enjoyed the Marvel movies that derive from the comic Superman, and dominate the art of the cinema today (and will soon dominate videogames too)? Of course he would enjoy them. I just told you he fucking made them didn't I. 852. The entire pseudo-intellectual establishment is currently busy trying to decode the significance of the box-office dominance of superhero movies. And they never will. Because the reason for this dominance is one they are unwilling to confront. "The Overman is the meaning of the earth."
@Sergio_TGV
4 жыл бұрын
Nice videos. Just discovered your channel last month, and as a creative writing teacher, it has helped me a lot. There isn't this much material and critical apparatus in spanish, so it is a most welcome addition to my toolset.
@TylerMowery
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy the videos!
@kyle.siege-lion.siegelin
3 жыл бұрын
How does this apply to TV shows? I'm trying to write a comic / animated series, and it's overall about reaching your inner potential, but it handles multiple themes, like family, environmentalism, the corruption of government, etc.
@tamimnoory2023
4 жыл бұрын
even I'm not a scriptwriter or something I'm just a simple writer who wants to write my first book but your videos really resonates with me thank you so much love it !
@B-MC
4 жыл бұрын
Inception is actually simple because its core idea is in the title. Its about the literal inception of ideas and the good or bad they create as a result. And this is built into the narrative by having Cobb incept a Good Family Revelation into a person to get his kids back, but also has to overcome the Bad Family Revelation as to why he lost his kids in the first place. And all other characters are the storytelling studio there to help or hinder this. (Though this is a very good video, i should make that clear.)
@AmanShrivastava23
4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on the rewriting process for short films/ feature films ?
@rogersjgregory
4 жыл бұрын
People see what they want to see, and some are easily distracted by their own opinion of what’s happening that they miss what is actually happening. I think you can have more than one theme in a story, with side plots, but they must compliment the main story and theme. That’s the meat and potatoes, the rest is gravy.
@flushfries5633
4 жыл бұрын
The movie I’m currently writing explores a massive, cosmic story, bouncing between parallel universes. BUT I’m using that massive, cosmic world be the backdrop to the actual story, which is nothing more than a mystery. Hopefully I won’t over complicate the story in the vein of fleshing out the world.
@ВадяРотор
4 жыл бұрын
2:20 you say Whiplash explores 1 central idea, then right away you name 4 ideas of Whiplash.
@AndonLee
4 жыл бұрын
i am an upcoming filmmaker , learnt alot from this channel already.
@markparkinson6947
4 жыл бұрын
As I am writing this, there are no views! How interesting. 🤔
@joshsfilmjournal
4 жыл бұрын
This video and it deserves wayyy more attention. This might as well be a MasterClass lol
@Eden-xy7gk
4 жыл бұрын
My first script was this terrible short that tried to be about power, religion, the human experience, and so much more. It was 14 minutes. This video helped a lot in narrowing down a script, and putting my complex one on a shelf.
@NatalieMayOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video. I’m using your videos about script writing and applying them to solve my personal life problems and it’s really helping. Keep up the great work! :)
@peppino3609
Жыл бұрын
Bro Is literaly the goat
@owaltec1994
4 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@ireenopilo8685
4 жыл бұрын
But what if you have a complex idea, should you fit this in with a simple story because there's going to be a lot of exposition
@jboushka
4 жыл бұрын
Tyler: What do you think of the idea of a compendium of several stories, as in "DC Noir" from FilmfestDC started online today vimeo.com/ondemand/ffdcdcnoir These films are character-driven, and one short story leads into the next as a kind of daisy chain. Also, many of my favorite films are "layered" and decompose into backstories, each of which are "simple" but which make a more elaborate whole. "Inception" (2010) and "Cloud Atlas" (2014) -- the latter is 6 interconnected stories over many time periods. Then there is "Pulp Fiction" "The English Patient" from the 90s. "Adaptation" (2001) is a meta-movie about screenwriting itself and is layered. Another favorite of mine "In Praise of Love" (2001), in 2 parts. OK, the greatest mystery of all time is "Vertigo" (1958), in two parts, each part a kind of treasure hunt. They're not made of arbitrary sets of ideas, but rather coordinated characters and events and themes..
@oscarrojasjr9984
4 жыл бұрын
And how about focusing 2 or more ideas on a movie franchise? Could I work on the ideas as the story progresses?
@rthur.
4 жыл бұрын
Im glad you made a video about this topic. I think I was falling into the trap of trying to make sure my story has all theses themes that people will discover when that shouldn't be the point. I love watching video essays on KZitem they give motivation to think about my stories. It good to see my people pick out different topics from movies and break them down. However I started realizing that most of these video are toxic to beginners like me because they try to influence us to make stories that cover all sort of complex situations. I don't think Jordan Peele, Ari Aster or Bong Joon- Ho knew about all these ideas when they made their movies.They all focused on the main theme of the story and used symbols to support it. I don't think they are concerned about all theses other deep theories and themes, that just comes as a accomplishment when your story connects with an audience like you stated in 6:51- 7:23 Thank you for the video
@germainemedia
4 жыл бұрын
As soon as you started talking about this I was like "Inception", and then I saw you put it up. 😂 Great info!
@ryannixon4138
4 жыл бұрын
Deep not wide
@Whimsy3692
Жыл бұрын
Tyler, you are a brilliant young mind, and your channel has helped me come out of my rut with my own creativity with my stories. You have a knack for saying things that I have felt were off, but have never found the right words to say. You earned a Sub and a fan. Great work!
@herrimanguy6361
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan...BUT...I much prefer your videos that are scripted and have lots of visuals. This video feels very rambling and ill-prepared, and consequently it's much longer than it should be. I believe you could have conveyed these ideas in 3 minutes and with IMPACT. I hope you'll consider a redo. The before/after could be super interesting, even from the perspective of proving the point of why a movie or book shouldn't ramble.
@Rob_-dv6ei
2 жыл бұрын
In the words of the great jazz pianist Thelonious Monk: “Simple ain’t easy!”
@Davaldod
10 ай бұрын
Essentially, if you deeply explore one idea thoroughly, it has a magic way of invoking everything. In other words, in order to achieve the universal, aim for the specific.
@aptonymic3014
4 жыл бұрын
"If I've ever had a theme in mind thats just the worst, then you feel yourself writing and there's nothing worse than that feeling like your chasing after a theme. That's writing at its worst for me. The best things kind of become something and your happy it's there." ---- Paul Thomas Anderson “Never try to convey your idea to the audience - it is a thankless and senseless task. Show them life, and they’ll find within themselves the means to assess and appreciate it.” ― Andrei Tarkovsky these perspectives seem to be more helpful, as in film makers are kinda incapable of conveying meaning in film but an audience is equally incapable of veiwing a film without some lens of meaningfullness.
@eugenetswong
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. It was very interesting. I have often wanted to simplify, but didn't know how. Now that I have watched several of your videos, I am very optimistic about it.
@DrEllert
4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I still enjoy some art-house films, even if sometimes they tend to get a little bit confusing. IMO they try to challenge the medium, not only by putting all their eggs in one basket - but also stretching the limits in visual, sound, etc. I'd admit that I'd prefer a "normal" film over art at anytime, but sometimes I want that crazy, weird, experimental stuff. In a sense... it helps me focus :) But I don't write scripts so I don't count.
@xzcott
4 жыл бұрын
DOUBT is another great example of a simple theme/idea in a feature-length film. While it does explore Catholicism in a Northeastern American town in the mid-twentieth century, motherhood, sexuality, and abuse--multiple and specific ideas--the main question each character faces is doubt. Meryl Streep's last line always gets me. And the theme is in the title!
@edgarbleikur1929
3 жыл бұрын
So true... Finally catching up with your channel... Hopefully you'll get a little or a lot deeper in your advanced writing programs - looking into the psychology behind story.
@payton292
4 жыл бұрын
I love the authenticity in your videos. No jump cuts or hyper editing. This is what you have to say unfiltered. Keep it up man
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