The sheer variety of art YuGiOh has is genuinely one of the biggest appeals. The fact cutesy shit like Melffy can co-exist with Elder Entity monstrosities and robotic Cyber Dragons is something no other card game can offer. The fact "some archetypes are goofy" was even a point is insane to me.
@maxmaus4402
Жыл бұрын
It's truly incredible that on the one hand, I can play a deck featuring an army of badass spiritualistic samurai-era people with fire, and on the other hand also have the best card in the deck be a pair of zombies who move with great difficulty as they sing without a care in the world. A zodiac-inspired furry can get in the Unicorn Gundam, or he can get on top of his bro and gattai into some kind of winged warrior angel that I just realized has no feet. A coat with some humanoid Rotoms inside it is meta-relevant. What other game can get away with "possessed coat" being a viable choice?
@Ms666slayer
Жыл бұрын
@@maxmaus4402 Literally the meta right know is about Egyptian and Mermaid warriors that fight against an alien invasion vs birds that are on vacation, no other game can have that much contrast.
@DrAiPatch
Жыл бұрын
I got my GF to play master duel by showing her the Dragon maids because Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid is her favorite anime..... How is having cute/ funny card art a negative.
@PhantomThiefXI
Жыл бұрын
i mean battle spirits has gundam fighting evangelion and kamen riders, with a side of godzilla and ultraman, THEN we get to the original cards of dragons, snakes, idols, angels and robots, so id argue on yugiohs setting's uniqueness
@GreatgoatonFire
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that there isn't a coherent reason why they are all the same game. Some cards have a story line but try to fit Skull Servant going on a trip to grill potatoes with the Vendread zombie apocalypse, a bunch of generics fantasy stuff and so on is... Challenging. A few different but connected worlds would be my preferred set up. That way you can have the different tones interacting without making everything work on one planet or whatever.
@EinDose
Жыл бұрын
Complaining that there are weird non-serious decks is the weirdest complaint to hear from an old-school Yu-GI-Oh player. You WATCHED THE ANIME, that's basically the one thing I can be sure of. You surely remember that the big bad of the first major arc played Literal Looney Tunes Bullshit as a deck! It was one of the first codified, themed DECKS you could build!
@thoroughlyjordan
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, it takes a person with a high IQ to understand that cartoon characters are unkillable perfect lifeforms.
@ctusiard9755
Жыл бұрын
And Kuriboh has always been a thing. Tea had cutesy fairies too!
@lyncario5515
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the complain of some archetypes not being serious is super weird since there has almost always been a tonal clash between monsters. The fact that it also ignores every archetypes that are more serious is just as infuriating. Part of the beauty of Yu-Gi-Oh is that you can see Orcust, an archetype about the tragedy of Ningirisu's life, his denial over the death of his little sister, his rising madness because of his grief, and his now innevitable fight against one of his former friend, and then next year there's Mathmech, an archetype about summoning a monster named "Final Sigma" to one-punch the opponent that gets released.
@nondescriptcat5620
Жыл бұрын
back in the Good Old Days we had *serious* monsters, like.... Hungry Burger?
@jeremysollars5922
Жыл бұрын
Can I pilot ships made of sushi in magic? no? 0/10
@reinatheomni-panda7028
Жыл бұрын
The whole "non-serious" thing really urks me, because often you'll hear that from people who also play Magic, but when you talk to them about Magic, they ALSO complain about every set and story arc in recent memory being essentially the Jacevengers versus whatever multiverse-ending threat there is for that year - the Jacevengers, Age of Bolas, the Jacevengers versus Cthulu-Galactus (the Eldrazi), now it's the Jacevengers versus the Oil-Borg essentially with New Phyrexia. The whole direction of the story and design for years hasn't ever really lent itself to having fun sidestories that aren't determinative of THE FATE OF THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE AS WE KNOW IT, and it seems like every year they have to craft the new "biggest story Magic has ever told", and it's so exhausting, like I just can't really care about these characters anymore. Meanwhile, over in Yu-Gi-Oh land, you DO have big long epic stories like the Abyss saga with Albaz and the Swordsouls and Despia and so on, or the Duel Terminal stories with the Ritual Beasts and Zefra and the Qli and the Shaddolls, or the World Chalice story with the Krawlers and Mekk-Knights and the Orcustrion and whatnot, but you also have fun stuff like the Live Twins, the Floowandereeze, Dragonmaids, Kozmo, Weather Painters, Dangers, the Vendread, Suships, Spyral, Geargia, Plunder Patroll, Madolche, the Melffys etc. that are completely divorced from any overarching grand story and I love that. Plus it gives an extra couple degree of creative freedom in design by not having to be confined to SUPER SERIOUS "ADULT" HIGH FANTASY.
@PhantomThiefXI
Жыл бұрын
mtg is dbz
@jmanwild87
Жыл бұрын
To be frank i love the Phyrexians and eldrazi as a concept (also they get some of my favorite art whenever they pop up.) The problem is that we're lacking story beats that aren't avengers level threats or leading to avengers level threats
@sakuraryuji01
Жыл бұрын
I also love the variety in how some older yugioh animes and mangas had an established mini generational story about Kuribohs. Their adorable little things. It always warms my heart to see more made. I also like the established lore of yugioh and GX etc about certain duel spirits being dedicated to serving a master. They have their own motivations to do so. Particular Blue Eyes, Dark Magician , Dark Magician Girl, Neo Spacians, Heroes , Yubel. All of those lores are so expansive and can all coexist. You could even make your own lore as a duelist if you ever thought to go that far.
@Ms666slayer
Жыл бұрын
@@jmanwild87 Why we just can't have a block when we see just how normal folk that lives on a plane do their stuff, i mean you have all of thies universe with cool shit and we don;t know anything on how the normla folk do their stuff, how is the politics, how is the culture of every plane, etc. we just go to a plane then we need to fight the same flavor of villian that wants to destroy the multiverse like on the last 10 block.
@christopherb501
Жыл бұрын
@@Ms666slayer I miss Lorwyn...
@BaneHydra
Жыл бұрын
"Now we get an archetype based on cars?" is also a weird take cause Vehicroids debuted in Cybernetic Revolution which released in 2005, only 3 years after Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon. Calling Vehicroids "modern Yugioh" is like calling Lugia or Scizor "modern Pokemon".
@cbbblue8348
Жыл бұрын
It's so painful, definitely like what you described. If a genwunner made a "Pokemon used to be good, what happened?" and you have a section where they decided to go ham on Sunkern and Sunflora. Or "Which pokemon you would like to play? A badass fire breathing dragon or A floating inanimate ice cream." It's clear that he is the ultimate yugioh normie who just watched Duelist kingdom and battle city and call it a quit.
@bassgx1459
Жыл бұрын
For real, it's like he just searched for weird monster in yugioh, got the Vehicroids pic and pretended like this is what yugioh has "become". Dude really just want to have a boomer period. The only take I can give him is the text format but that's also what the community have been asking Konami for years and it's noticable even from an outsider perspective.
@Malkibaal
Жыл бұрын
You are correct and Steamroid and Drillroid appear in the Japanese Dub of Yu-Gi-Oh GX already in the end of 2004. Theactman was born in 1995 so he was just 9 years old in 2004 and 2005 he was 10. Drillroid appeared in episode 11 Season 1 in GX, that was in 2005 in the English dub. It means also that he just could watch Yu-Gi-Oh the first time from the age of 6 to 10 he probably missed a lot details and perceived the whole show superficially.
@Chief-Remeldian-Olympus
Жыл бұрын
@@Malkibaal Most that I've talked agree saying modern yugioh is anywhere from Duelist Kingdom to 5ds. That because levels stills matter back then you can't use Xzy and Links monster for ritual summons or synchro summons.
@Rahnonymous
Жыл бұрын
@@cbbblue8348 "Icecream and garbage bag pokemon bad." said the person who played a game with literal magnets and a sludge monster.
@Ragnarok540
Жыл бұрын
The act man is one of these players that attacked a timelord thinking "the opponent is an idiot for summoning a 0 ATK monster" then after taking 4000 damage, proceed to use raigeki on it.
@thebloolinegamer
Жыл бұрын
wait thats just like me fr
@user-lt2zu4qo8z
Жыл бұрын
Hehehe. Timelords were fun.
@greengandalfziggy1
Жыл бұрын
Let's be real, Yugioh players don't read cards, and regardless, modern Yugioh cards are a nightmare of bad formatting and text bloat.
@sonicboy5
Жыл бұрын
So basicly 90% of the playerbase?
@isidoreaerys8745
Жыл бұрын
Okay so instead of addressing his valid point about card text conventions causing unnecessarily long difficult to read text. Make up a hypothetical situation in your own head and make fun of that.
@thunderstarchampion
Жыл бұрын
The "it's not serious enough" is so silly to me considering we have a video game that is about an Italian plumber who jumps on Chestnut-esque creatures while trying to find a medieval era princess from a giant turtle with mechanical traps.
@matthewkuscienko4616
Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but I feel as though a big part of Yugioh not being "serious enough" comes from a combination of 2 things primarily, those being some archetypes that have a silly theme (such as Fluffal or Madolche) and the popularity of the abridged series that parodies it. These 2 things, for better or for worse, have the power to color people's perception of the game and make it into something it's not, and the more people complain about them, the more fuel it just adds to the fire by spreading that opinion to more people
@autobotstarscream765
Жыл бұрын
Which normies shit on for not being Call of Duty and having guns, which is the mentality that birthed Ow the Edge.
@bernardjohnson6413
20 күн бұрын
The difference is yugioh was not always coupled with silly and goofy archetypes. Mario on the other hand is a franchise that has stayed consistent. Super Mario bros. had all the same elements that the brand new Mario movie had, and everything in between. And it's not inherently about being serious 100% of the time, but when you go from Egyptian black magic and mythology into Outstanding Dog Mary, you have to see where it's become less intense (a word I find better than serious for this topic)
@ryanhall5360
Жыл бұрын
It's honestly impressive how you managed to fit all those points, history lessons, and rebuttals into only a 13-minute video. The editing is sharp and fast-paced without cutting the jokes or messing up the timing of the jokes, and it's altogether just a really tightly-written video. Plus, it was nice how you didn't "insult" TheActMan for not knowing about these things, but at the same time validated how a lot of current yugioh players feel about those kind of takes. This was great work, and I hope you make more of this type of stuff in the future.
@johnuselmann2704
Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean missing the timing of the jokes?
@ActuallyNotIlmatar
Жыл бұрын
@@johnuselmann2704 His timing on actmans favourite deck was on point.
@delbanking9940
Жыл бұрын
I hate this video going after the Actman video, because none of what Actman says represents my thoughts on why I don't like Yugioh anymore. I don't like Conditional timing because I find it an annoying concept, that only exists because of specific wording. Not that I can't understand when its done. I just don't like that it is a factor in the game. That my card doesn't work even though I filled outs conditions because its being part of another ongoing interaction in the game. And that I and many people feel is the game is too fast and uninteractive. Games decided in two to three turns. Hand traps don't feel interactive to the boomer, because I can't predict whats in your hand nor know how many tools I have to deal with. Counter spells in magic have the fact that I can see how many lands you have before I play the card. So I can think and realize what the limit of our play is. Hand traps not only make traps useless, but turn every action into a guessing game. And turns bad hands into unplayable ones, you'll even see from MBT Himself. Play a card get negated, scoop. And there's not much he can do about it. And sure there are ways to play that way, but its in specific communities. And, its not like the game will ever again cater to how I play. The game is way too far gone now to ever become the game I enjoyed back in the day. I know that, but I hate hearing yugi boomers 'just don't get the game'. Nah I don't enjoy the game has on offer anymore.
@ashikjaman1940
Жыл бұрын
@@delbanking9940 you're not a yugiboomer, you're someone who just doesn't like yugioh
@Petsinwinter2
Жыл бұрын
@@ashikjaman1940 Which is perfectly valid.
@ShredAimlessly92
Жыл бұрын
For every cool, badass archetype, there’s an equally goofy and fun archetype. And that’s not something many games really embrace. And it’s OG characters like Pegasus who set that trend from the beginning with toon cards. Nothing has really changed in that way.
@ShyRanger
Жыл бұрын
Also he basically acts like badass archetypes don't exist anymore. When really they never left. Pretty sure Branded was the biggest thing when that video came out, and now we have Kashtira which, while reviled by many, does look super badass.
@letsgostupid
10 ай бұрын
@ShyRanger I would rather play against Branded than Purrely and Kashtira. Not Tear tho...Tearlaments can stay where it is 😂
@xdantex9724
4 ай бұрын
Calling kashtira and branded a badass archetype is the biggest cope ive ever seen, they're meta thats why people like them 💀
@Steph_N
3 ай бұрын
@@xdantex9724 and that's a bad thing because...?
@eclipsedarksouls6036
Жыл бұрын
Ritual: tributing with levels Syncro: tributing with specific levels Xyz: tributing with same levels Link: this is just tribute summoning from the Extra deck with pointing
@pink_kino
Жыл бұрын
and Fusion Summoning which is basically Ritual but with a specific recipe
@coolguylynxy
7 ай бұрын
Xyz more like stacking 2 monsters with same level
@VojvodaSloboda
Ай бұрын
im not sure what your point is? are you trying to say tributing for caius is essentially the same thing as exceeding into zeus or linking into sp? that would be a ridiculous notion
@eclipsedarksouls6036
Ай бұрын
@@VojvodaSloboda this comment from a year ago is trying to say that at there most basic and least nuanced form all these extra deck types that yugi boomers are complaining about are basically different ways to tribute summon.
@VojvodaSloboda
Ай бұрын
@@eclipsedarksouls6036 pretty shallow way to understand the criticism if you ask me dont you think? No one is complaining about the summoning mechanic in of itself, but rather the power creep that associated with those platforms. Plus there are further nuances that alter game interactions such as xyz's being ranks and links not having a level or a rank. Its simply easier for people to group the whole platform together. Of course not all link monsters are as effective as SP but to act like the power creep isnt getting out of hand would be ignorant, at least to me. I play both modern and edison too, I think both old and modern yugioh have there appeals. But its pretty undeniable that newer summoning platforms have way to many effects for little cost, especially with how common omni negates are involved.
@nsiderultimaseth
Жыл бұрын
8:47 I am genuinely staggered by the huge L that Act Man took by making his example of "bad card concepts" one of the most beloved and enduring archetypes in the game.
@MogFlintlock
Жыл бұрын
Possibly the most popular rogue archetype that doesn't have ties to the anime.
@jbutchet6317
Жыл бұрын
as a madolche user i was absolutely offended by the act man's opinion on madolches. like yeah they ARE adorable dolls that references desserts but do you expect a deck like that to go wide and hit hard? probably. and that's what makes them scary to go against.
@SageTigerStar
Жыл бұрын
@@jbutchet6317 I imagine if he had to actually PLAY against Madolche, he'd see why people would rather use them over his Legendary Ocean deck. :P
@dyldragon1
Жыл бұрын
He disrespected the goat
@legeul
Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it, of all the decks, he really had to go after the most beloved archetype in the game, yes i would rather play a deck with dolls named after deserts over a deck with fish and mermaids.
@Dramatic_Gaming
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only two actual criticisms I see worth mentioning are the text bloat and the complexity. I feel like there should be a way to pare down the amount of text even on modern cards to make it more digestible rather than having to just know what to look for. As for complexity, I think the bigger issue is that konami does a piss-poor job at teaching players that complexity & how to navigate it, especially once you start to reach those edge cases. I still remember seeing multiple debates about how Mirrorjade's effect was supposed to resolve even among judges when it first came out.
@mrbubbles6468
Жыл бұрын
I mean there absolutely should be. 3/4 of a card are just conditions and summon requirements. TCG should really just put alll of that in the rulebook and come up with keywords for it all going foward. It’s what the OCG did and especially Rush Duels
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Konami doesn't seem to give a sh about new players and actually building up a duel. It's goal is to sell new overpowered cards to their solitaire game.
@davidmorrison8925
Жыл бұрын
The thing that I think you're missing about complexity is literally every card game I played has some strange interactions that require clarity. I actually think Yugioh is a bit ahead with PSCT, it makes effects on cards easy to understand once you understand PSCT. I do certainly wish there was an easier way to learn the card game for sure, but like every game there will always be a learning curve
@jorda8915
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 Yugi boomer detected
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@jorda8915 Any other "arguments"?
@heyguysdavehere2609
Жыл бұрын
What gets me the most is people never mention the legitimate issues (Text size, Short printing etc) and always go for the ‘Back in my day’ approach. Especially when just 1 hour of digging would allow you to find out that BEWD and Dark magician were not good cards and half the cards you remember got banned/limited because they were stupidly broken.
@asdion
Жыл бұрын
To play devils advocate, at least pot of greed is just a +1, meanwhile modern yugioh has fusion spells that let you go ~+5 like take branded fusion -1 activation +1 on the discard of a gy effect despia (limited to 1 burial) following this you activate the effect and gain +2 by recovering a spell/trap and adding a despia to your hand, you obviously fusion summon something like Lubellion, which allows you to recover albaz and summon mirrorjade. So in effect a single Spell that is at 3 in TCG (at 1 as it should be in OCG) gives you a massive + while blatantly doing the same thing other limited cards do just better. Most of the original banned and limited cards have gotten powercrept by new cards, and people simply can't bring any argument as to why they should stay so, except for modern additions that have been put on the list because the newest release was made so broken that they had to ban something and they couldn't afford to ban a cashcow. I think the biggest issue for people who talk about the old days is less that they want BEWD and pot and more that they want BEWD to be playable, and it's not like it doesn't get modern support, the support is just awful compared to the stuff new archetypes get.
@brutalnobody5240
Жыл бұрын
yes, dm wasn't good at all. BE actually had a short window of play back then because it was actually bigger than an Summoned Skull.
@drowsyCoffee
Жыл бұрын
@@asdion The thing is, though, that there *is* an opportunity cost for modern power cards. Things like Branded Fusion, Tri-Brigade Revolt, Predaplanning, etc. require you to play a certain engine to be able to plus you like hell. You need to invest resources into getting them into rotation (At least, if not hand drawn), you need to invest deck space and extra deck space into fitting their engines to be able to play them (Which has all manner of impact, from opportunity costs, to garnets and brickiness, etc.), and most of the time, there is a multi-step combo involved in getting these swings of advantage, which creates a window of opportunity for interruptions to stop said combos. Cards like Pot of Greed do *not* have these weaknesses, as the trade offs for playing them are minimal. In the example of Pot of Greed, it would realistically only occupy one to three slots in deck (Depending how many copies of it are legal), would always be live (Since it isnt part of a multi-card engine that might require to be played in a certain order to be on), and wouldnt really impose any incidental deckbuilding costs like limiting what other engines you could play due to having xenolocks, hogging extra deck space, etc. That is, ultimately, what allows these cards to be legal while something like Pot of Greed isnt. The impact something like Branded Fusion can have in deckbuilding is limited, because not every deck can afford its requirements. The impact something like PoG would have is much higher, because there is virtually no cost attached to it
@asdion
Жыл бұрын
@@drowsyCoffee The fact that Branded Fusion is limited to 1 in the OCG proves my point tho none of the "costs" of it are relevant because the archetype is build in a way that makes all of the costs and "cons" move into additional card advantage, and most archetypes that come out these days have this kind of design arguably even more powerful. I doubt Pot of Greed would have any relevant impact these days, it would end up as an ash bait at most because most relevant archetypes are so incredibly consistent that the draw 2 is a "win more" type of situation. It would effectively end up in the same state as handtraps a mandatory include in most decks early on and in non modern archetypes, while later on it gets replaces by blatantly more powerful in archetype cards. Nowadays "Cost" is not a cost just like nowadays "locks" are not a con either. to return to Branded Fusion The cost is 2 monsters from the deck Which is blatantly just 2 copies of Burial and there is a reason why Burial is limited to 1 because it's not a cost it's a + Meanwhile for example Ultimate Fusion is purely just a recovery that only activates its extra effect if you had difficult to summon material on the field. But i agree the "limitation" lies within the fact that it is not completely generic ie it requires a tiny bit of investment into out of archetype cards if you want to splash it, but that is a non point since there is no modern archetype that doesn't have equivalent cards to Branded Fusion, that's like saying Pot of Greed is bad because it's generic while every modern archetype has in archetype pot of greeds that allow them to go +5. But ultimately you are missing my point my statement was not meant to imply that Pot of greed should be unlimited, i am implying that the powercreep is bad for the health of the game because it has outpowered Pot of Greed while ignoring any archetype that is not new leaving them so extremely weak that they are unplayable.
@sluggernott
Жыл бұрын
What it is simply is that people don't like change, hence the "boomer" moniker given to these people. It's similar to people who complain about the good old days of their favorite sport (Look at how much the 3 major team sports have changed while still remaining 98% the same) or how much video games have evolved from side scrollers on an 8-bit system , to open world simulation in 4K and 240 FPS. By all accounts, I am a YugiBoomer. I played when I was in middle school-early high school from 2002-2005 and only quit because I was trying to be "cool" and spent my money on music equipment instead. Fast forward nearly 20 years, and I'm a 33 year old grown ass man who likes yugioh now more than ever and think it's a lot more interesting now. My story is long and convoluted, but I eventually grew to accept and even like it's evolution. Nothing should ever stay the same. The game has stayed relevant for so long because of its evolution. Complexity makes the game an interesting challenge. There's a ton of diversity too. Sure, the modern Meta is usually defined by a handful of Top Tier decks, but there are 20 or so very playable decks capable of topping locals or just fun to play in general.
@aidanobrien5591
Жыл бұрын
I will absolutely never get over the "Yugioh is too goofy" complaint. I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head with the Magic comparison. I, myself, find Magic (specifically Commander) to be the more enjoyable card game these days. That said, Yugioh consistently manages to keep my attention just because it ALLOWS itself to be goofy. I can't make a Magic deck that features "tokusatsu fire fighters" or "furry sky pirates" or even fucking "French and Italian desserts mixed with jobs or animal sounds".
@The2012Aceman
Жыл бұрын
Ragavan: "Am I a joke to you?"
@williamfalls
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget ships that are sushi.
@Hauki336
Жыл бұрын
@@williamfalls gunkan is such a funny archetype
@pascalsimioli6777
Жыл бұрын
I loved ygo mixing of archetypes but I've always found the abstract backgrounds awful. Once I needed a better game and a funnier one than "learn this combo and repeat it step by step forever" Magic just came from the heavens above to give me art and gameplay.
@pokeluis2002
Жыл бұрын
Literally I can’t take that point seriously when one of the main villain’s main archetype are fucking cartoons
@EnjinSosei
Жыл бұрын
Yugiboomer here (judged nationals a few years during the synchro/early xyz era), and while I feel like there are some critiscisms to be made of modern YuGiOh, TheActMan sure didnt seem to make any of them, at least not well. Solid video and I think you may have sold me on Rdison format.
@bernardjohnson6413
20 күн бұрын
What would you say are valid critiques?
@EnjinSosei
19 күн бұрын
@@bernardjohnson6413 The power creep, the price, the speed and complexity of the game creating a learning curve an order of magnitude worse than most of its competitors which makes it very difficult to draw in new players or even returning ones. In a year old comment elsewhere I talk about how the game simultaneously only takes 4-5 turns tops while also going to time frequently enough that sideboarding in cards that take advantage of the time rules was a Thing. I dont play paper rn so idk how accurate that is anymore.
@itsmetristan3671
Жыл бұрын
Correction at 7:48, it's not only if it's during a chain resolving. If you tribute a Dupe frog for a Tribute Summon, the last effect of Dupe can't be activated for instance. It's better described as "Optional trigger effects that activate 'when' X thing happens cannot be activated if X thing was not one of the last events to occur prior to the next chain opportunity.
@DuskoftheTwilight
Жыл бұрын
I mean, let's be real here, out of all the complaints mentioned in his video, "Optional When effects can't activate unless their condition was the last thing that happened before open game state, while Optional If effects can activate as long as their condition happened at any point since the previous open game state" is pretty dang dumb.
@tonberryking42
Жыл бұрын
@@DuskoftheTwilight And here I am saying that mandatory when effects should also miss timing - I mean, we already do chain blocking for both our opponent's cards AND OUR OWN for the purposes of targeting or making sure certain things are in certain places by the time chain link 1 is trying to resolve, why not justify the cards that meaninglessly have "when" where an "if" is equally valid due to being mandatory?
@Nitrus7
Жыл бұрын
Tristan you dont have to nerd emoji your judge status in the comment section of a fucking MBT video of all things 😂
@Adderflail
Жыл бұрын
@@tonberryking42 they have been changing them to if as they get reprinted
@rune4543
Жыл бұрын
The quality on this one is insane. Extremely well paced, edited, and straight to the point. Really would love to see more of this kind of content.
@whitefox6274
Жыл бұрын
Honestly on of my favorite things about Yugioh is the uniqueness of not only the archtypes but also the artwork, it’s got a little bit of something for everyone really, whether you like giant robots or magicians you will find something to like
@NARFNra
Жыл бұрын
I feel this super hard as someone who's grown really tired of modern MTG art design lol, the only thing I wish is that YGO credited the artists
@GreatgoatonFire
Жыл бұрын
@@NARFNra What about the alt-art WotC makes each set? The glass-pane Walkers from Spark or Black and White stuff from Innestard for example.
@Dz73zxxx
Жыл бұрын
I can testify to this Why? My favourite archetype is chronomaly
@rabbitbeargaming2441
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I like certain card arts for reasons. Madolche, Frightfur/Fluffal, and Ghostrick are cute. Meanwhile, Flower Cardian, B.E.S., and Gimmick Puppets look super cool to me. Mostly the reasons why I use certain decks is because of the card art lol
@NARFNra
Жыл бұрын
@@GreatgoatonFire I don't really like the way that the alt-art cards are done these days. It feels a bit gimmicky because instead of the cards feeling like they express an individual artist's style or something, it's like they just said "ok everyone, draw black and white sketchy versions as a secret lair type set of collectibles for this set". I think that essentially they moved all the interesting art variety out of it "naturally" appearing in the main cards and put it all in whatever promo they're doing every set, which also means that every time you look at a spoiler list on Scryfall or something you're tabbing through like three alts of the same few cards and they're not very recognizable anymore on the battlefield because they come out in massive sets of promos that look similar instead of the art style being something that adds to an individual card's flavor. Instead it'll be like "here's 15 rares that were carefully crafted into this single art style to fit the set gimmick" and so on, which feels much less earnest than the way it was done in like even the Alara era or something to me. And ultimately, I really do wish they'd let the style variety exist in the main set cards more without it being pushed into promos as just a bonus.
@khornebread4802
Жыл бұрын
My only complaint is this: Need better Archfiend cards (Which tbf, was partially addressed with a couple of Labrynth cards and Simult). Also thank you for showcasing some of the Summoned Skull archfiends. I just wish there was more support for them so they see more use.
@dex1157
Жыл бұрын
Missing the timing is one of those things I sort of get, but can never explain, so I appreciate the cliffnotes version that helps explain it fairly cleanly.
@jessedale4287
Жыл бұрын
Ive been playing dark worlds since release in TCG, so I learned real quick how the miss timing thing works
@dex1157
Жыл бұрын
@@jessedale4287 ahh shit. I bought three copies of the structure deck recently, so I guess I gotta learn it perfectly now. Although I am still waiting to try and get my hands on the rest of the cards I want for my sub-optimal cheesy backup archetype I threw in there.
@ayngrand3212
Жыл бұрын
@@jessedale4287 Dark Worlds don't miss timing, though. Most, if not all Dark Worlds' discard trigger effects are mandatory. What trips players up about that deck ist that they don't trigger off of being discarded for cost, since they specifically state it has to be by effect.
@phucdisshiet6838
Жыл бұрын
It's like english in a way (though that probably doesn't help). If can be applied to any hypothetical situation while when cares about the specific period when something occurs. “If” is surprisingly easy to understand. For this word, timing is never an issue. All that matters is “If” something happened. Doesn’t matter when it happened, just that it happened. "When" means that the condition has to be the last thing to happen. For example my opponent activates feather duster, in response I activate call of the haunted to revive e-hero stratos from my GY. The chain resolves backwards, stratos is summoned and immediately after duster destroys call of the haunted. As chain links cannot be interrupted once it starts resolving, the last thing to happen was not stratos hitting the field but duster destroying my cards as such stratos does not meet its condition. If you replace stratos with something like souleating oviraptor that says if instead then that will trigger.
@BirdmanTCG
Жыл бұрын
Missing the Timing only happens If you have an When effect that's optional.
@sporkmclork
Жыл бұрын
YuGiOh's biggest problem is definitely the text-box. It's too small relative to how much useful information it contains (and how useful it is compared to stuff like the Level/Rank bar or the Attribute.) Make it bigger, divide it up between Summoning Condition/Ignition Effect/Trigger effects and conditions, and color the font differently. It would be a welcome change. Hell, do what they do with Planeswalker cards and bleed the art through the textbox so that you can make it a larger part of the card without cropping the illustration.
@SamLabbato
Жыл бұрын
We actually saw a simplification like this in Rush duel cards. If it wouldn't cause too big of a stink in competitive, they should just do a complete redesign of the cards and slowly reprint old cards in the new style.
@mfoltran
Жыл бұрын
Its usually so big because the game really dont like keywords like magic. There are effects that are seen ALL THE TIME, but they still spell it out instead of using a keyword.
@drillygo6984
Жыл бұрын
Yeah rush duels did a great job simplifying yugioh. The layout redesign is so good (the new art direction for the artwork itself is debatable tho). They use numbers to represent level, colors for clearer stats,Bigger frames for artwork and separate sentences for Costs and effects. There are no miss timing, soft once per turn effects, self chainshain, limit of normal summons, oppressive card advantage,floodgates, negates nor redundant card types like continuous,quick spells,continuous and counter traps.
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@drillygo6984 So it tries to solve everything that is still wrong or got even worse in game. The complaints are valid.
@ScarHydreigon87
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t play Yugioh for over 11 years, and only played Playground meta. Fast forward to 2021 when I decided to get back into the game, and after spending several weeks relearning the mechanics, understanding the meta, looking into archetypes, and going to locals, I now enjoy the game more than ever. All because I had the open mindset to learn and expand. That’s why I hate Yugiboomers so much. They’re so close-minded and not willing to learn and adapt.
@STEPHxCA
Жыл бұрын
based
@Dz73zxxx
Жыл бұрын
I beg to bit differ, as an ex-yugiboomer. On point there, "open mindset to learn". But truth be told, skimming throughout todays mechanics and meta is certainly jarring, the likes of handtraps, misstiming, these and that. What makes me an ex is because i, firstly, agree with you, dare to dive into meta and common cards, and secondly (probably the most decisive), is to liking an archetype. And i suggest to all yugiboomers to do so. Find your favourite weapons, your archetype, then try to dive in. Countless techs to utilize.
@silviechangames
Жыл бұрын
@@Dz73zxxxAgree! I am sure that me sticking with crystal beasts will pay off soon..someday..someyear!
@silviechangames
Жыл бұрын
@@slayer100141 so then what? you should be able to work your 40hour job a week then go to a tournament and crush anyone? same with chess tournaments right? you work 40hour then go home and beat masters at the game? no? oh almost like hobbies require time and dedication you got weekends to play at and try to enjoy yourself while learning could find a friend and learn together then you'd avoid all of the "bad bad horrible meta" even though meta isnt a bad thing and you or anyone else wont be able to solve that "problem" since its been around as long as games has been around and the mind set is "I play a competitivly game to try and win" not "NEED TO FTK" why are you playing anytime of versus multiplayer game if you not even trying to win or at least learn? do you start streetfighter and never attack?? Do you start forza and never accelerate?
@fallencloser5028
4 ай бұрын
Bro is yapping but playing nurse burn 💀
@Jcbryant123
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the main disconnect people like Actman have is that they are too focused on what they personally don't like about the franchise, as opposed to having any drop of curiosity about inquiring what/why active players like modern YuGiOh. And they are unable to come to the realization that many of the things they dislike or hate about the game, active players and fans enjoy or embrace. So they go on these rants about how Yugioh should radically change trajectories in order to win over people who haven't played in 15-20 years. And a lot of their suggestions have no semblance of understanding what people who play enjoy about the game. A lot of people like Actman need to internalize MBT's last point, that they never truly played Yugioh, and if they did... they probably wouldn't have enjoyed it. Yugioh isn't for everyone, and that's okay.
@mnorth1351
Жыл бұрын
That's fair. I have said before that modern Yu-Gi-Oh is a different game than old Yu-Gi-Oh - not a different game like an evolution, a different game like football is different than basketball. Some people like both; good for them. Some people like the new thing; great, enjoy your present reality. Some people like the old one: can you blame them for complaining that the game they liked was destroyed and replaced by one they don't like?
@gemscythe
Жыл бұрын
@M North It's a flawed way of going about things tho, it can virtually be said about everything and anything so being upset seems contrary to common sense. It is obvious that things will evolve to a certain level at some point in time
@streetgamer3452
Жыл бұрын
@@mnorth1351 it was never destroyed. It evolved. The game these old people who don’t play anymore usually don’t play anything past playground Yugioh which just isn’t Yugioh cuz it’s primarily not even playing by the actual rules.
@mnorth1351
Жыл бұрын
@@streetgamer3452 Blatantly false, bigoted mischaracterization to say fans of old Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even play by the rules. Just look at the popularity of goat format. Plenty of rules, and complexity, and card interactions back and forth. It's just not power-creeped up the Wazu. And my claim is precisely that the two games are so different that it is NOT just an evolution of the same game, it amounts to one game being discontinued, and a new one replacing it.
@streetgamer3452
Жыл бұрын
@@mnorth1351 MAJORITY of old fans didn’t. Because they played it purely as a kid
@richardstamm2144
Жыл бұрын
I think so much could be fixed by making cards more readable. The original video in which you both pointed out that the top lines are often activation/summoning conditions, and activation limits in this one are both recurring generators of 3-5 lines of text. This would be a massive undertaking for Konami to implement, but just being able to make in-line symbols that indicate that the following is an activation/summoning condition, or that a card name can only be used once per turn/chain/duel would free up a lot of space and allow the formatting of the cards to lend themselves better to quickly parsing what it does. More than that, it makes it easier to pick out which part of a card to read, especially when it's something you're playing against and want to know where to look to read what the opponent is doing.
@FyrenRei
Жыл бұрын
That's literally modern japanese cards, they have bullet points (not just xyz cards) and numbers in circles to denote number of effects, as well as denoting restrictions like hopt more optimally and with less words. They don't do that in international releases because the printers they use either charge more money for those specific characters or they can't make them at all, but card text readability has been addressed just not internationally due to circumstances.
@shadoeboi212
Жыл бұрын
they could just go the magic route and do Key words.
@sun332s7
Жыл бұрын
@@shadoeboi212 YGO has keywords in a form tho
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@shadoeboi212 That is a dangerous game to play, because then it becomes harder for newer players to decipher an already hard to decipher game state, so they have to be used very sparingly and only on terms that are extremely common, like searching
@shadoeboi212
Жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 thats kind of my point you key word the sections that in common with other cards and PSCT for anything semi unique. Yugioh already has them and so do most of the popular tcgs
@keerbeer6519
Жыл бұрын
This might be your best video ever, a combo of laughs, history, general information about the game and the responses tied it together sooo damn well. Well done man keep it up, started playing again because of you
@yatakarasu98
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe he described Bakura as _the twinkiest frame imaginable_ 💀💀💀
@AquaHedgehog
10 ай бұрын
A point about summoning mechanics - I'm actually pretty fond of Xyz summoning because it enabled Extra Deck play without the need for extraneous spell cards or specific Tuners. The only real materials needed to get Xyz monsters out are a couple of same-level monsters, which you'd most likely be running in your deck anyway. There's also plenty of support options including changing the levels of monsters that could be used as Xyz material.
@dyrr836
9 ай бұрын
That was what I loved about Xyz myself. I was a casual fan as a kid and got into competitive YGO around the time Xyz first launched in the TCG. I immediately clicked with them because they were legitimately the most straightforward summoning mechanic of the time. And then I stuck around because seeing all the new potential they offered had me hooked.
@Atestinal
5 ай бұрын
I had a yugiboomer friend who needed to be re-taught synchros a few times, but picked up Xyzs no problem
@NickersonGeneral
Жыл бұрын
What I really don't get about yugi boomers is if you hate modern yugioh so much, why not just not play it? Yes, you are allowed to dislike it. Yes, you are allowed to express that opinion. But I swear, every video talking about modern yugioh (good or bad) is FLOODED with commentors bitching about it. This is like me going to every baseball video I can find to complain about how much I dislike baseball. I don't think they can grasp the concept that people genuinely enjoy modern yugioh, and arrogantly assume that because THEY PERSONALLY dislike it, it must be objectively bad.
@wackywoohoopizzaman1290
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Act man haven't watched Yu-Gi-Oh GX how big of a Yugi Boomer he really is.
@pink_kino
Жыл бұрын
even though Fusion summoning existed since Season 1 of Yugioh that and Ritual Summoning.
@wackywoohoopizzaman1290
Жыл бұрын
@@pink_kinoI know that,but Yu-Gi-Oh GX just is the anime series that really made fusion summoning popular as it is today.
@Bombastic_daioh
Жыл бұрын
Or 5D's the real goat.
@1stCallipostle
11 ай бұрын
I skipped GX in my youth. Sorry 2006-2008, more reruns of the older stuff was available to me at the time
@Bombastic_daioh
11 ай бұрын
@@1stCallipostle 5D's was better in many ways so you missed on the peak of yugioh lol
@Scourgerr
Жыл бұрын
The main thing about the "too many extra monster types" that always bugs me is that most decks usually use just one or two MAYBE 3 at most. Even then, most of the other extra deck types are toolbox stuff you can ignore as a beginner. You can just learn that one that is integral to your deck and then learn the others by watching others play
@amiablereaper
Жыл бұрын
And even then often it's the deck's signature type+link summoning, which is far and away the easiest to understand
@michel0dy
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the variety of archetypes in yugioh. I love that I can pick from such a wide range of themes, art styles and change my playstyle to match. The part of "doing it like the anime and using an archetype to convey your character" is honestly the huge appeal yugioh has for me over other card games. My sister, who never played TCGs before, got interested in Speed Duel because of the cyber skater archetype, because she loves watching figure skating and she felt the deck represented her tastes. If that isn't amazing I don't know what is.
I've often explained yugioh to people trying to learn as "a game where for every rule, there is at least 3 cards that break that rule". As your teaching a new player you basically have to end every sentence with "unless you have a card that says otherwise"
@wubwubdododo5656
Жыл бұрын
card text trumps rules every times.
@u.a.perfectace7786
Жыл бұрын
Reading card text in the TCG is a pain in the ass. At least the OCG separates multiple effects with an icon. It makes it easier to read. Rush Duels had simplified card text that separated the actual effect and cost to activate it by name. Less card text and still conveys the useful information to player on how to use the card. I would love to see the current card text could get overhauled. Reprints are thing, could modernize them while still allowing the pre updated cards to be played (that way you can still play the cards with the old text format) while newer players don't get overwhelmed by so much bloat.
@fikkitchen
Жыл бұрын
This is literally me explaining Yu-Gi-Oh to my roomie 😂 You really have to be explicit about card texts.
@ToxicAtom
Жыл бұрын
That's pretty much true for any card game though. Magic, Pokemon, Vanguard, all of them have cards that break the rules as written. That's like, kinda the point of card games. Hell, this is true for most _games._ Like, yeah, in Skullgirls, you take Chip Damage while blocking, EXCEPT if you're playing big band and press an attack at the same time as the directional input, then you parry instead, blocking without taking chip damage. In DnD 5e, melee weapons modifiers are determined by your strength score, EXCEPT is that weapon has Finesse, in which case you can use your dexterity instead. In Magic, you can only cast a spell that targets if there is a valid target when you try to cast it, EXCEPT if the card has an intervening clause that only causes a targeting effect to apply while it's resolving, then you can cast it even if that effect wouldn't have a legal target. Just like all of those, in Yu-Gi-Oh, monsters are only ever treated as 1 tribute for tribute summons, EXCEPT the Mega Monarchs, who have an effect that allows you to treat another tribute summoned monster as a single tribute. This is just, a game design constant.
@demonkingsparda
Жыл бұрын
@@ToxicAtom yes but few things are as egregious about it as Yu-Gi-Oh. How do you teach a person the basics when the basics mean nothing? Look at Tear, the only rule that deck follows is the battle phase. Not the best wording but It's 5am and I can't think straight
@qlxmaosldk3576
Жыл бұрын
"Yugioh No Serious" is very possibly the dumbest argument ever hit this game. There is no other game that you can group a team of a folktale princess with hairy paws AND bigass giant all-devastating creatures, or crayon-drawn fluffy baby wildlifes AND a battalion of renegade beasts which led by a half-machine man-crow with bigass barrels. please correct my writing i'm learning english
@animedegenerate1437
Жыл бұрын
Wildlife is naturally plural so you don’t need to add the s on the end. Otherwise everything else is grammatically correct (yugioh no serious isn’t but it’s in quotes).
@MVAS-mp9oo
Жыл бұрын
The only correction is that Shuraig is a man-shrike.
@KnightlyBrosGaming
Жыл бұрын
It is cool to see Summoned Skull have a variant for Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, and Link summoning.
@Dr.AvenVon
Жыл бұрын
too bad none of them are any good
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Konami should officially create categories of competition by types of summoning and/or deck building, almost like the development of the anime. That would be a lot better to see what's more popular and would open the game for any type of player. Mixing it all as the only option is a mistake.
@teiten3806
Жыл бұрын
The link wasn’t summoned skull, but he had a ritual form if you want
@costelinha1867
9 ай бұрын
"Fit the dark themes of the story plot" Dude, this show is literally a "power of friendship" type of anime where a bunch of investors unironically lost faith in a dude's company because he lost to a fellow teenager high-school student at a children's card game, this anime was NEVER THAT SERIOUS! (Yes I know it has dark moments, but it's also goofy as fuck and I love it for this.)
@manwithnewname
3 ай бұрын
Idk if you only watched the 4kids english dub or what, but both season 0 of the anime (only released in Japan) and the manga have some very serious dark themes, and even the Japanese version of later seasons had characters literally die if they lost a duel. So yeah, it was pretty damn dark in the original vision
@TwistedNightmar3Gaming
Жыл бұрын
A near 40-year-old yugituber, is one of the first people come to my locals to learn the game or ask questions about it. I genuinely want people to enjoy the game at all levels play.
@TwistedNightmar3Gaming
Жыл бұрын
The person is me btw. Just a few weeks ago, a kid and his family sat and watched me play RTT GK va branded-bystial. Probably one of the worst matches for what was going on, but every time he had a question, I'd answer. Last week, his father literally bought a set of every gk card in the game.
@L1nk2002
Жыл бұрын
I fucking love older yu gi oh formats. I wanto to fucking play every single match waiting for 20 turns until either me or my opponent draws BLS.
@silent7159
Жыл бұрын
I find it ironic how people complain about the amount of text on modern cards when cards like Relinquished and Toon DMG were printed
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Proportion and average is a thing.
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Power creep to $ell more cards with multiple effects is also a thing.
@The_Big_Jay
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 What's wrong with cards that do more than 1 thing?
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@The_Big_Jay It's not the cards themselves separately (duh), it's the overpowered combo driven solitaire summoning engine that completely takes the "duel" part of the game. One either must try to stop it so they can do the same. It's ridiculous.
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@The_Big_Jay the game is becoming more and more like the playground rules only kids could come up with.
@vixune
Жыл бұрын
"Cards these days have too much text." - How to say you've never read Thousand-Eyes Restrict. They literally had to shrink the font to near unreadable levels to put all its text on it. Something that even Endymion or Nirvana haven't had the honour of.
@drwho9319
Жыл бұрын
Difference is majority of players didn’t play thousand eye restrict. It wasn’t common to have a card with a lot of text on it compared to today. Players didn’t like that to begin with
@raptors11111
Жыл бұрын
Cool, you have 1 example. 1. Lol. Today every single card is as many words as Thousand eyes restrict
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@drwho9319 lol. TER is basically THE Metamorphosis target at the time, and was a staple in Goat
@drwho9319
Жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 how can it be a staple if majority of duelist weren’t running thousand eye restrict. I say that’s a stretch to call it a staple at the time. Cards barely had text, it was better game
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@drwho9319 That's because the meta wasn't as well documented before Goat, and by then, TER was always ran if you had Metamorphosis since it let you turn a goat token into TER and suck up a monster
@11wildy63
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that I do feel is wrong is how hard it is to get into the game. You can try to teach someone, but most likely they'll find it too complicated, unless they really want to learn
@OscarSanchez-vo9dx
Жыл бұрын
I think with master duel being out that shouldn't be much of an issue anymore
@lyfed2566
Жыл бұрын
i think yugioh comunity is very kind toward new player to help them overcome the vertical learning curve yugioh have. yugioh player may be very sweatty at times but they always have soft spot for newplayer that is willing to learn
@monkeylemur
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you need a person with a right mindset and a person who's actually personally motivated. Usually it takes learning 1 deck and actually start winning with it to get hooked
@mynameisjohnjackajoe
Жыл бұрын
@@monkeylemur This can't be understated. Constantly losing because you got nostalgia baited and build a Blue Eyes deck is not fun. Throw returnees and new players into cold water. Encourage them to build a good modern deck with longevity. They might not get the full potential of that deck at first but the more they play, the more they learn not only about their deck but also modern Yugioh in general.
@dontmisunderstand6041
Жыл бұрын
@@OscarSanchez-vo9dx Master Duel isn't good at teaching people the game, and the fact that the only game mode is "play against solitaire meta decks controlled by losers with no life" is an actively negative part of the game. Especially when the tutorials for Master Duel don't teach you how the mechanics actually work, only walk you through one specific set of steps that achieve an outcome where those mechanics have been used. On the other hand, Legacy of the Duelist actually does a decent job of showing you how those mechanics work, and gives you a massive depth of opponents to face that lets you experiment and find out how things work without just losing to a field of omni-negates set up on the opponent's first turn.
@ArtistNotFound123
Жыл бұрын
That was something that Act Man was completely wrong about, in regards to different art styles and archetypes. There is nothing cooler than combining different archetypes and seeing how their gameplay styles compare and contrast with their art styles. Combining a cuter more innocent looking archetype with a darker more mysterious feeling one feels like the anime team up I’d watch 2 seasons trying to understand. That’s when I make my own stories up and it becomes even cooler for me.
@ianbailey4213
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of bubble beat down and how people were just throwing in whatever cool warrior toolbox thing you could
@shonwooten6550
Жыл бұрын
Seller/collector here; Don't actually play outside of digital. Gotta say, if someone complains about the artstyle of yu gi oh in particular, their opinion on it just doesnt matter. I love Pokémon and I like MTG, but the only cards I bother to purchase are yu gi oh. There isn't another TCG with anywhere near as much variety and for collecting? I have ¢10 cards I plan on putting in a display and $20+ cards I was disappointed to pull and wanna sell immediately. The card art is bonkers with yugioh to the point where I'll literally take a common over a holo, depending on the style. Yu Gi Oh has the goofiest and most beautiful artwork you can find on cardboard. It's like nfts, but with value
@Populon993
Жыл бұрын
6:26 this actually is a nice example for both the good and bad points about this "card texts too long" criticism. Yes, this one card does a lot. But as MBT points out, theres only really one thing that you have to worry about when your opponent puts this in front of you. Maybe a second one, when you plan to get rid of it. IMHO The process of "gittin' gud" in this game includes learning how to skim through those texts somewhat efficiently and learning this "Yugioh language". "Reading a card" doesn't necessarily mean reading and understanding every letter on there, but rather figuring out the important part(s). BUT as the video shows pretty well, this single inportant bit is right in the middle of one big paragraph. Plus the texts can be pretty inconsistent. E.g. sometimes a "once per turn" is at the end of the text, sometimes its in the beginning, sometimes it's somewhere in the middle because it only affects the previous (or following) part. If the texts would be written more consistent and would include things like actual formatting and word highlighting, the game would be a hell of a lot easier to learn and less tiring to play. Sure, doesn't really work with the actual cards. Those only have so much space. But simulators have virtually infinite space to work with. Imagine Master Duel would have been released with neatly formatted texts in those detail views. At least they somewhat go in this direction now with some text highlighting and popups that only show a currently active effect...but this also only works with newer cards. Not sure if they also gradually implement it for older stuff (aside from solo mode stuff maybe)
@dannyboers4704
Жыл бұрын
Tbh i got so used to yugioh card text it isn’t even a issue for me anymore. I can just skim read every card and remember it for the rest of the day. And even if I need to read a card from my opponent i can just ask to read it and take only like 5 secs. I’m probably in the minority with this though
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Yugioh has a text format issue. They overpowered the cards and didn't update their info system.
@RedZeroX
3 ай бұрын
"yugitubers that disagree with him" When? Me watching the videom right before this one, seemed like they had similar opinions. "Yu-Gi-Oh isn't complicated" Just 'cause you spent enough time with the game to adapt to all the changed that happen and all the small details in rullings that... don't exist anywhere else, doesn't mean it's not complicated. As someone who keep jumping on and off since the synchro era, I still think the "if and when" difference is dumb, unnescesary, and just forces player to learn more stuff then needed. "I don't get the complaint about summoning mechanics" Except each time a new summoning mechanic was introduced, it broke the game for a while until it eventually somewhat kinda balanced out. Not to mention, MORE RULES in terms of "properly summon", "not having levels", "treated as both monsters and spells" etc. It's just more stuff to keep track of when knowing what your deck can and can't do. "text bloat isn't that bad" Still exists, still makes it daunting, because yu-gi-oh (mostly) hates keyword Also didn't mention anything about archetypes limiting creativity options or the game being about 5 minutes of set up so your opponent can't play, or other valid / depends on your preferences complaints I wouldn't bother dumping the word-vomit here, but you seemed very aggressive and/or demeaning in your response, compared to his mix of both respect and annoyances to the game. I don't agree the archetype being more whacky and all over the place is bad, but it's hard to get back into the game when I can't ever sit down and figure out on my own what cards are the best to use to support an archetype I like, without looking up a guide, unlike in some other games where you can just search engine a keyword or line of text, and then build an archetypal or non-archetypal deck from there. Haven't played Master Dual in a year now, and honestly, some of your videos just remind me why that's the case (not because of you, because of what's happening in the game that you covered... which Tier-0 format are we on now?)
@VanessaVersus
7 ай бұрын
"An archetype based on CARS?!" holy shit he really was trying to make the Nuts and Bolts video again
@justinmadrid8712
8 ай бұрын
You are not being honest. ‘Missing the timing’ is notably more difficult to communicate to a new player than you claim. You didn’t even mention the whole ‘If… you can…’ versus ‘When… you can’ thing, as well as other forms of ‘missing the timing’.
@butterspike680
Жыл бұрын
It's kinda nuts how he made fun of Madolche, a beloved rogue archetype', only to reveal minutes later that he really likes Nurse Burn, which I'd dare to say, it's universally hated to Mystic Mine levels. Also he suggested Umi Water monsters are better, but they're unamusing at best.
@ShyRanger
Жыл бұрын
It's especially weird cause like, isn't Nurse Burn a "don't let your opponent play" deck too? So you're gonna talk shit about Fisherman III being uniteractable but then play a deck that also kinda isn't?
@nuclearcrayons3511
9 ай бұрын
I certainly think Yugioh was in a bad spot for a while but those days are gone imo. The game feels decent to play and there are plenty of different strategies that work at the top level.
@Ghost_Drive
Жыл бұрын
The Act Man fan with almost no Yu-Gi-Oh experience who had this video recommended to him, this was really interesting! I was almost certain that things were a bit simpler than he made them out to be, and this made that clear to me. I think the major difference in opinion here come's down to people's preferences in games and thoughts on feature creep. I can tell from watching The Act Man's videos that he is a fan of games and stories that get straight to the point and are easy to experience. I can tell that you are a fan of games that are full of depth and are willing to navigate through complicated rules to learn and enjoy them. I ultimately think you both have a point; the game needs a way to make it so that new players aren't dropped into the deep end right away with all the complex mechanics, but people also need to understand that the game isn't unplayable, just complex. While comments are mentioning that Konami can do more on this, I feel the community is also a big part of this based on my experience getting into the fgc 5 years ago, and outside of attacking The Act Man (which I don't care about because he's a 1 million sub KZitemr, he can take it) you seem like you're very willing to do that. You get a like from me.
@Nerobyrne
Жыл бұрын
I love Yugioh but I'd never play it in real life. I'm glad games like Master Duel and Link Evolution exist so I don't have to deal with all those rules and can just focus on playing my decks^^
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@ExeErdna Konami should officially create categories of competition by types of summoning and/or deck building, almost like the development of the anime. That would be a lot better to see what's more popular and would open the game for any type of player. Mixing it all as the only option is a mistake.
@TheKeksletsplay
Жыл бұрын
My opinion, if you go trough all the hastle of learning the game properly, play competitive or it's a waste of time, energy and money. There is no fun in playing dark magician and getting slapped by a single mst.
@VergaVenuda
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKeksletsplay no thanks, id rather just play jank in gold than use $500 on a deck that will get outclassed in 3 months in a game which takes ages to make banlists irl
@Nerobyrne
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKeksletsplay you're wrong
@DatAsuna
Жыл бұрын
The wildest take in the original video for me was that he hates archetypes because they simplify the game. But also hates that the game is too complicated and has too many cards. I dropped yu-gi-oh around the same time he did, and got back in just a year or two before his video with legacy of the duelist (which he shows in his video a lot) because it catered to anime nostalgia for people like me who want a bit roster of AI opponents using anime decks. I was able to grasp the new mechanics just by playing the rather good included tutorial in an afternoon, and archetypes made it easy to me to learn in bitesize chunks while also appealing to the "holy shit buster blader is a whole deck now?" factor while also enabling powerful if limited legacy support so my old but bad pet decks like charmers could enjoy some powerful support cards that would never be printed to work generically. So as a yugiboomer, he's still wrong, just learn to read and don't expect half remembering a tv show from 15 years ago to teach you everything.
@TheWizardMus
Жыл бұрын
Wait he said that in the original? The Archetype system is the literal best thing about yugioh to me. I've tried getting into magic but the way it just treats all cards as a big clump turned me away. There's something so nice about being able to say I'm playing Ghostricks and my opponent being able to pick a different deck of around the same power level. Or get a free win.
@danfelder8062
5 ай бұрын
Agree with most, but the "Miss the Timing" complaint mises the point. Some rules are more intuitive than others. Situations that cause abilities to "miss the timing" are unintuitive. The fact a card says "when I'm destroyed, do a thing" and is destroyed but never gets a chance to do its thing is unintuitive. In MTG the ability just gets to do its thing the next time it makes sense to do its thing.
@bassgx1459
Жыл бұрын
The anime is both a blessing and a curse to Yugioh. It brought the franchise to popularity but also made people who watched it got the wrong impression about the game. I'm a yugiboomer and for the longest time, I thought that whatever thing they did in the anime is also translated to IRL. Imagine my shock when I learn people were into degenerate shit like triple pot of greed into raigeki as early as the game goes that my child-like mind couldn't comprehend back then.
@andrejv.2834
Жыл бұрын
Seems like konami realised the anime's effect later on, as from arc v onward anime decks resemble real yugioh more and more, even zexal decks can be kinda compared to dino rabbit gameplay wise, except their individual cards weren't as powerful ofc But this isn't helping the majority of yugiboomers who only vaguely remember dm
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@andrejv.2834 Yea, ZeXaL effectively had its characters run diet versions of Dino Rabbit with a less effective Rank 4 package (especially notable with Yuma and Shark)
@Doku71
Жыл бұрын
I got back into YuGiOh just recently. Buying old cards I liked when I couldn't get them as a kid. At first I was overwhelmed till trying Duel Nexus, and reading rulings again for traps, effects, and spells. It was actually much easier to understand than I thought. Master Duel did help a bit but held my hand a lot, and as I came to find out, Dragonmaids are expensive on tabletop.
@ondusidaja
Жыл бұрын
It's the waifu tax
@drakeredgrave6747
Жыл бұрын
9:04 this is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever seen... not only is goofiness kinda necessary or else everything would just be a "super important thing" where the "super important people" are and have to do "super important things", but he failed to mention the fact that yugioh at its early age(aka YGO DM) had toon monsters, baby dragon, time wizard, landstar, marshmallon, petit dragon, etc. Yugioh didn't change its philosophy in card styles/seriousness, it's always had goofy shit and that's what makes it fun. If you wanted to make a deck that was based on what you like and if you like desserts the play madolche, if you like plush toys use fluffal, like strong woman then play amazoness, like demons and literally HELL, play burning Abyss
@forcommentingpurposesonly2918
Жыл бұрын
i love people who say "the game isn't about skill anymore". really? you're that sure that you don't just suck?
@bernardjohnson6413
20 күн бұрын
When "being good" means googling the meta, buying the specific cards to build meta deck, then you play an opponent also using a meta and hope your hand blocks them out of play completely, it's not skill. It's luck and rng
@easiestcc6451
7 күн бұрын
@@bernardjohnson6413 Having a meta deck doesn't mean you're good. You can have a meta deck and still lose to Ojamas if you don't know what you're doing. Being good is more like reading the opponent's card effects, activating effects at the proper timing, knowing what you're doing, and reacting to your opponent's card effects.
@tiszach
Жыл бұрын
The fact that a demonic version of the Catholic Church and boats made of sushi can exist in the same world is quite possibly my favorite thing about this game
@finalfantasymemories7846
Жыл бұрын
Thats cool and all, but when full archetypes are otaku teenagers, or lolis showing their feet, i wanna puke
@tiszach
Жыл бұрын
@@finalfantasymemories7846 Yeah, that's a really good point.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@finalfantasymemories7846 Lemme guess, the former is Libromancer, and the latter is Ash Blossom alt art or Traptrix
@xboxgamer474246
Жыл бұрын
As a magic player and fellow act man disliker I love this video. It’s honestly super refreshing to hear someone say YuGiOh didn’t develop a modern identity until 2008
@-clod-8948
Жыл бұрын
yugi-boomers are so facinating to me as I only got into yugioh from my friends playing at it a lunch in high school around 2017. one of my friends was playing an odd-eyes deck and honestly, that deck was what got me into the game
@Dz73zxxx
Жыл бұрын
Quite ironic since yugiboomers would patronize pendulums as YGO killer 🤣 i, too, despised pends, then i find comfort with qliphort rn
@dudono1744
Жыл бұрын
IMO the only confusing thing about pendulums is "why tf do they go to the extra deck ?". Turns out it's plot armor
@rabbitbeargaming2441
Жыл бұрын
@@Dz73zxxx I myself never really used pendulums except a few I just used as spells and nothing more. Examples being Edge Imp Cotton Eater, Guiding Ariadne, Lunalight Tiger, and Lunalight Wolf. I almost never pendulum summon except in Abyss Actors which is a full pendulum deck
@dudono1744
Жыл бұрын
@@rabbitbeargaming2441 same I only used SHS general coral as a spell in duel links
@dudono1744
Жыл бұрын
What I love about yugioh is that you can find archetypes for nearly every kind of gameplay you can think of.
@bloodmage7173
Жыл бұрын
I mean yea so long as you over look some of them being three cards that at best vaguely interact with each other Because Konami either forgot about them or thought they'd be too strong
@willsoe
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a longer react style version of this video somewhere?
@Shinn4703
Жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that one of the “serious” cards he says is pumpkins king of ghosts. Is there no other zombie he could use??
@solobugg5087
Жыл бұрын
7:51 Missing the timing also has to do with a card specifying the word "when" instead of "if", a minor and finicky difference.
@Skasaha_
Жыл бұрын
Something which is notably less common these days, missing the timing doesn't really come up with modern cards.
@Slobo182
Жыл бұрын
The act man not even bothering to try Abyss Actor is a shame.
@gravekeepersven82
Жыл бұрын
The new abyss actor stuff is cracked
@SageTigerStar
Жыл бұрын
considering his love for Water decks, why not something like Mermail/Atlantean? that seems more up his alley. It's not even competitive anymore, so it'd still give him and his friends a good run in their casual games.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@SageTigerStar Hell, even Umi Control is pretty good, even if it's just TCBOO Turbo. Or Sharks. Or god forbid, Ice Barriers
@SageTigerStar
Жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I agree. There's plenty of fish in the sea. XD
@somenerd7046
Жыл бұрын
Yugiboomers when you have to read more than one sentence 😦
@CatManThree
Жыл бұрын
The fact that actman mains nurse burn but shits on modern yugioh is something...
@theharvardyard2356
Жыл бұрын
"this can just be simplified to [thing that still goes way over my head]" You did this like four times in a row. I think we have different concepts of "simple."
@HoseB932
Жыл бұрын
It’s really not that hard. But being serious about the rules and trying to be cool with them is part of the game. When he says “Open game state.” It just means in the down time when nothing happens, so whoever’s turn it is, gets to start by using a card. From someone who hated and failed numerous reading assignments, Yugioh rules are like, easy in practice over in theory.
@theharvardyard2356
Жыл бұрын
@@HoseB932 I always did great on reading assignments, in fact now I teach them, but I have trouble with directions on tabletop games
@cody501
Жыл бұрын
All MBT does is win. What a great video! Clearly and concisely debunked the typical complaints that we are all tired of hearing!
@ianbraun271
Жыл бұрын
I dunno. I think he came off as a bit condescending and disrespectful toward us Old School/returning players. See: MTG comparisons in terms of game speed, which it was not. It was less interruptions/negates, less abilities per card, and more back and forth. Oh, and traps mattered. Also see: comparisons to "playground Yugioh". Just because we new/returning players can't keep up with the massive combos of modern Yugioh, doesn't mean we came back to it from playing it on the playground with no knowledge of the rules.
@TimothyGod
Жыл бұрын
@@ianbraun271and yet typically those are the cases. Most returning players haven't played proper yugioh. And a lot of what MBT says to refute act man is, come on, it's still a game, you have to learn some stuff. And agreeing with some of the real annoyances.
@42Tonyallen42
Жыл бұрын
I've loved this game since I first got my Yugi starter deck in like 2004, I love the complex rules, I love the summoning mechanics, I love the artwork, I love the diverse mix of goofy and serious cards, I love it all
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Do you like playing solitaire with extra steps?
@galaxyvulture6649
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 It's literally not solitaire if you arent a goober that doesn't run hand traps. Besides the most negates people get nowadays is 2 negates max and playing through 2 negates isn't hard.
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@galaxyvulture6649 Proves my point that you either try to stop your opponent half hour summoning strategy where cards are only tokens to be easily replaced by overpowered cards you can access OR you try do the same. The game practically turned into kids playground rules with extra steps.
@galaxyvulture6649
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 It's literally not. The rules are easy to understand and people don't even get massive boards anymore. If anything it's like solving a puzzle to overcome people boards or sabotaging their process. If you can't understand this you might be a yugioh boomer since the game gotten easier especially if u play master duel.
@oussama6701
Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem when I returned to yu-gi-oh via Master Duel, but it doesn't take you too long to learn about new rules, you just gotta be open-minded about it
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
No way to be open minded by modern day solitaire.
@Eyeshield11721
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 *Looks at Tear* Yeah, you have no idea how good you have it rn before they show up in MD
@The_Big_Jay
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 Modern day solitaire? You mean literally none of the good decks?
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@The_Big_Jay I mean any deck that can easily access all your overpowered cards and dominate the board in just a couple of turns.
@The_Big_Jay
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 Overpowered? Lol. Lmao even.
@lewisallen5849
22 күн бұрын
As someone who's not played Yu-Gi-Oh for ten years and came from Act Man's video, thanks for addressing some of his complaints really well. Some of your responses seemed like strawmen but this video makes me want to jump back in to the community to see what's changed so again, thanks for this.
@LilyApus
Жыл бұрын
I promise you these people wouldn't still be playing Yugioh 20 years later if it had stayed even remotely the same, it's their oppositional defiant nature about the game being "too complicated" that keeps them playing or thinking about it at all, they aren't still playing classic Yugioh so much as they just aren't playing modern Yugioh, they're basically just hipsters.
@Sammysapphira
Жыл бұрын
"Why isn't yugioh exactly like mtg or hearthstone...? This is why yugioh has FAILED"
@lofnforseti8447
Жыл бұрын
Came back to the game when Master Duel came around as my friends invited me to play it with them. Left the scene sometime just before Tengu Plants, so I did not have any pre-conceived contempt on summoning mechanics since I was a fan of Synchros, big fan, love the white frame. But I thought the speed of the games would have taken me away from the game, I remember watching a TeamSam video back in 2016/2017 I believe, whenever the Deep Sea Diva video was, and I thought "Game looks broken", as I tried to make a shitty Blue-Eyes fusion deck in Dueling Nexus. Fast forward today, I am in love with the game MORE than I've ever been. Unchained and Salamangreat are my go-to comfort decks. The playground Yugioh schtick I did went through, I tried to make an actual fusion hero deck instead of Diamond Dude turbo, so pretty nice when they Compulse my Shining Flare Wingman. Also, one thing about this Yugiboomers doesn't realize that there are newer players who got into the game without even seeing the original anime nor experienced this T-set pass you've played, and it is irreverent for them to take these people for granted. The game does not revolve around you since A: you aren't the only audience and B: you left the game more than a decade ago and you think you have the knowledge to present these arguments when you've known nothing about the community and the game for a long period of time?
@simplyyunak3189
9 ай бұрын
As someone who plays Magic the gathering and modern ygo and goat format i can really feel the struggle if returning ygo players. I just showed one of my friends the optimal first turn combo of the new salamangreat deck and he just said: lets try magic instead
@Yous0147
Жыл бұрын
So I think the video you were responding to was ridiculous to a frustrating degree. But likewise I feel like this reply video is if not equally then similarly so in "the opposite direction". A lot of this is responding to the lowest denominator problem posed by them, with biased opinions the way I see it. Yes, the history and overview you lay out is great and objective, but the conclusions you take are clearly your own presented as the argument to take and crucially not highlighting or addressing the underlying problems and difficulties that has lead to that otherwise shallow complaint video. Why even address "Yugioh has changed" with "Yes, everything changes?", it's pointless. Instead what about Yugioh changing is good/bad for you and me and why is it that way is much better. "Card text is too long" is valid criticism, ues the examples are bad, but by highlighting the examples you focus more on the fact that they're casual at best and less on the underlying problem and yet the video is presented as response to those criticisms.
@ianr.navahuber2195
Жыл бұрын
9:57 I am sure you can say this critic about A LOT OF STUFF in general. of how many want to make different franchises (like say pokemon and power rangers) and stories into "the most super dark and edgiest think ever, deconstruct it to their core, so everybody can take it too seriously" , when the reason why those things can be aimed towards children while still having an adult fanbase is because they strike a balance between the drama and the comedy. the dichotomy is key to the success
@condemnedd684
Жыл бұрын
Really my issue when it comes to yugioh is particulate text functions. Like “oh this card negates a card on the field? Ok I’ll just send it to the grave and it still resolves”. That’s not really a welcoming ruling since this isn’t 100% true to every card as there are lingering effects that actually do follow the effect to the grave
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
Yea, the game isn't always quite clear about how this aspect works, because wording is very specific yet unnoticeable
@vparsa87
Жыл бұрын
Yugioh being complicated is what makes the game fun. Games that are too simple are too boring. One thing I LOVE about modern Yugioh is the art of deck building. It feels like I’m Tony Stark building an iron man suit.
@anakinsmith4770
Жыл бұрын
pokemon is a great example there is a reason the video games competitive scene is far bigger than it's tcg the tcg is a snooze fest
@shadowsonicsilver6
6 ай бұрын
All the Duel Monsters are based on OUR spirits and imagination. That’s why we have such a large variety! That’s part of the actual lore from Yugioh established by its creator.
@_Rndom
Жыл бұрын
I've waited for a video like this It's so baffling that people with their childhood impression of yugioh, who then continue to not interact with it for 10+ yeah return think THEY have the right idea about "what went wrong". I myself only got into yugioh around 2019 thanks to duel links, and only because I wanted to find out what the deal with yugioh is and I got hooked. Then in 2021 I got into the actual tcg, I played my first locals in 2022, went X-4 but it was still a good experience. Yugioh is a great game, it pisses me off when yugi boomers continues to make these nonsensical arguments solely based in things they thought were legit over a decade ago, it's a card game, read the card it's not that hard. I seriously hope the negative stigma associated with yugioh will go away at some point in time, it's a fate this game doesn't deserve and if it wasn't for this stigma a lot more people would find out what makes yugioh special
@soukenmarufwt5224
Жыл бұрын
Sadly Yugiboomers are the loudest when it comes to talking about YGO. The r.e.t.a.r.d.s that constantly talk about and praise the YGO anime for the most nonsensical reasons, are also the worst kinds of people (especially 5Ds fans). Every video on YGO anime or Yugiboomers always pull the same unoriginal, out of touch, and nonsensical points and options thinking its fact. As someone who plays the real game it's an enormous chore to watch the anime without ripping it apart, least in the dueling side (especially 5Ds and Arc V) I also despise when out of touch players defend bad cards or mechanics (geminis) for inconsequential reasons. This is why no one should take Yugiboomers seriously and no one should take YGO anime fans seriously
@rayzebbs6614
Жыл бұрын
Same thing is gonna happen to u kid. don't waste your youth, go play sports lol
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
Watch the other video to not make the same scarecrow argument.
@_Rndom
Жыл бұрын
@@VNeto94 imma be honest I do not understand what that's even supposed to mean, if you're telling me to watch the act man video, I did, in its entirety. I've been subscribed to him for like 2 years and watch most if not all of his videos on release and despite liking him, his yugioh video is undeniably a fucking joke. I'm not surprised by it more just disappointed. It's just the most cookie cutter "new bad old good" shit ever that delves devolves into downright pathetic nitpicking at the end
@VNeto94
Жыл бұрын
@@_Rndom you did not get the point about the nature of the game.
@Ruxin34
Жыл бұрын
DANG This was a banger video
@imalwaysbluffing
Жыл бұрын
A few points 1. I stopped playing around 2008 because of how the game was changing 2. You have convinced me I should have switched to magic 3. People eat chicken nuggets that are shaped like dinosaurs? How ridiculous! I only eat ones shaped like chickens
@AlexTenThousand
Жыл бұрын
Yugiboomers are the rare case of the Venn diagram of "ACKTHTUYALLY AINMEN IS MATURE AND BLOODY AND EDGY AND I HATE THE WORLD" (despite these guys soon approaching their 30s) and the kids who made up shit while playing on the playground because they couldn't take the idea of not everything going their way.
@zacharylindahl
Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing just after highschool when the lost millenium dropped. Haven't thought about the game in years until this came up on my watch page. Good to see it's still chugging along
@SYMgenshin
Жыл бұрын
Just go play Master Duel if you're interested
@bullshitchannel5247
Жыл бұрын
try Master Duel, trust me you wont regret it. (maxx c doesn't exist if you don't know it)
@CaptainMarvel4Ever
Жыл бұрын
Master Duel is a great casual way to slowly catch up on the game. You’ll get your @$$ kicked online for a month straight, but there is a solo story mode to play and practice and build your card pool up as you level up.
@RamonChiNangWong078
4 ай бұрын
Dad 2024: Hey Son how's the Yugioh Solitaire game?
@Goblin749
Жыл бұрын
The reason Yu-Gi-Oh sucks is because I like playing angel decks in other card games but in ygo they are called fairies, to me that just sounds so dumb. Kinda like my opinion, I'm aware.
@YukiFubuki.
Жыл бұрын
it sort of is, blame the west forbidding religious, death related and sexual reference because the original terms for fiend and fairy types were angel and demons types something like the despia's monster and attribute typing being LIGHT-Fiends and DARK-Fairies has more of an oomph to them when you realize they're suppose to be LIGHT-Demons and DARK-Angels
@Nomlezz6th5
Жыл бұрын
Then go learn Japanese, Ocg uses angel not fairy.
@DOESITMATTER7734
Жыл бұрын
I’m a yugi boomer and I love the modern game.. for me it’s finally like the cartoon. They’re so many decks out now you can literally duel 30 different decks online In one day.. if you’re good enough you can break most decks. The term “good deck” now implies to multiple decks not just a small group. Meta decks are still a thing but that’s never going away but at least now it’s diversified
@eaterofyes9999
Жыл бұрын
THIS!!! this is my exact opinion
@DOESITMATTER7734
Жыл бұрын
@@eaterofyes9999 boom 🤯
@verymelonman12
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this was a damn good rebuttal. I don't have an issue with TheActMan's opinion but it's very uniformed about the game as a whole, so seeing someone refute his points with nuance and brevity is very welcome.
@nerazim1110
Жыл бұрын
I actually learned most of the rules from the anime. It made me want to actually play the game and made the learning curve much easier to overcome
@greengandalfziggy1
Жыл бұрын
A whole lot of disingenuous points made in this video about MtG, and points made in ignorance about the history of Yugioh. I say disingenuous for MtG because I know MBT plays MtG but he utterly and intentionally misrepresents it's gameplay for the sake of reinforcing his talking points.
@EnderBroadcast
Жыл бұрын
10:17 Mf they're literally TWINS. Not lesbians. You did this shit with Exosisters as well, stop calling every archetype with women in it "lesbians"
@Ashe_Forester
Жыл бұрын
They are not twins it’s the name of their channel
@cools-mc-fools
Жыл бұрын
exosisters are called that because they are based on nuns in a sisterhood.
@EnderBroadcast
Жыл бұрын
@coolerfooler Yes I know that, but the Exosister example was more towards MBT's tendency to call any archetype with women in it "lesbians", and not the whole "they're blood related" part that only applies to the Live Twins
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Жыл бұрын
@@cools-mc-fools Also, the fact that this kind of concept can very easily be used for yuri plotlines where the girls hide their relationships
@gayjebus4079
Жыл бұрын
I mean he does this with literally every archetype let's not forget that the entire Visas lore was just gay sex and so was libromancers
@MeUltimateX
Жыл бұрын
Ok, here are some things I disagree on. 1. Some parts of the rules are more complicated than they need to be, TheActMan's example of targeting effects is accurate. Also, you said optional trigger effects miss the timing. That's not entirely true, since there are some optional trigger effects that won't miss timing. It all comes down to the wording, more specifically "if" vs "when". That's another layer of unnecessary rule complication imo. There are plenty more examples like this so I don't think TheActMan's criticism about this is wrong. 2. It's not necessarily the summoning mechanic or the archetypes that ruin the game. It's the way they are designed, and I think this is a major point. Konami unfortunately developed this game with the sole intent of making as much money off it as possible while disregarding the fun factor of the game, they only made sure for it to be at least bearable so the players will continue playing it out of addiction and not fun. I don't think there is a sane yugioh player on this planet who enjoys watching his opponent play basically solitaire for 30 minutes only to realize he already lost the game. That's what's really off-putting about modern Yugioh. I'm not saying powercreep is wrong as a whole, I understand that it's necessary, but it could have been handled a bit more balanced and not have these sky-high differences in power level for a new deck that makes it tier 0, then limit the shit out of it so it cannot be played anymore, that's unhealthy for the game. I guess the main point the "yugiboomers" are trying to make but can't bc they aren't familiar with modern yugioh is that the game should be balanced to be more than just a coinflip game, with more back & forths and interactions. I'm pretty sure if all meta decks played more like branded despia in board building, which is what, like 2-3 special summons in a turn and pass, no floodgates, no 10 kinds of negations and no 30 minute combos, old yugioh fans would be more eager to come back to it. That was the main point TheActMan was trying to explain and you didn't address it at all.
@LadyTsunade777
Жыл бұрын
On long card text: I have felt for a very long time that Yu-Gi-Oh _really needs_ to make keywords a thing, and they need to actually format the text box instead of just having a single giant un-parse-able paragraph. Keywords cause a tiny bit of initial complexity, but once a new player knows what a word means they can far more easily parse any other card with that word. Piercing, SOPT and HOPT, etc. Formatting the card text better would made every card far easier to parse. Separate every effect with a new line and a numbered bullet point. Kinda like how the Japanese cards do, but also starting each bullet on a new line. This way players can just say "activate X card's # effect" and the other player, judge(s), and spectators can all immediately know where on the card to look to read the effect. On summoning mechanics: I don't have a problem with new summoning mechanics, I have a problem when they're just literally easier and less restrictive versions of the prior one for the sake of power creep and selling the new sets. Fusions originally required two specific materials and a fusion spell, then there was contact fusion which removed the spell, then there was synchro which required no spell and two mostly specific material, then XYZ (which has become the least broken of all extra deck summons over time) which required two only somewhat specific material, then Links which have practically no requirements other than "have any monster(s) on field". Old obscure rulings _should_ all be verified and codified. MtG has Gatherer, an official online database of every card ever and easily understandable official rulings (with examples most of the time) on how they all work. AFAIK there is no such easy way to know if X Yu-Gi-Oh card interacts with Y other card in an unusual way. Missing the timing _should not exist._ It is literally only caused by some cards using the word "when" while others use "if". All cards with "when"s should just be errata'd to "if"s and the problem disappears instantly. My main issue with Yu-Gi-Oh are the "excavate vs reveal vs mill", "target vs non-targeting", "destroy vs tribute vs send", and so on. There's plenty of places where they've used different words or wording for essentially the same action but minutely changed the interactions every time, thanks to the ever increasing arms-race because of no rotation and infinite power creep, that it just causes the game to at least _feel_ far more complex than it needs to for no real gain other than said power creep.
@raptors11111
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@HalozillaEX
Жыл бұрын
I am somewhat of a yugi boomer in the sense that I feel the game has gone in a direction I can no longer enjoy, but that is not because I tried playing with my old playground deck. I made the most competitively viable blue eyes deck(s) I could master duel; I watched deck profiles and kept up to date with every new addition to the game. But the reason I can’t enjoy ygo anymore isn’t because I can’t keep up (I got plat 5 with pure blue eyes). it’s simply because the act of playing the game is frustrating and tedious. I could go into detail but you can probably guess what my complaints would be.
@Varooooooom
Жыл бұрын
8:50 Bro made this point while wearing the goofiest cosplay I’ve ever seen
@Farmers-Almanac
4 ай бұрын
the power creep is what has kept me from the game for years
@sterben5590
Жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on a yugitube video, but my god was this video amazing. Theres always something people will complain about, but theres also the side that most people dont appreciate or take for granted, and that's its sense of community. Fan based tournaments and formats are very widespread and by all means are defaulted to actual terms we throw around both online and at card shops. Theres always something we can never be happy about, but that shouldn't overshadow what we as a community have built up over the years and will continue to do so for the love and sport of it.
@sterben5590
Жыл бұрын
One complain I had before for a while after zexal when I quit was the way the pendulum mechanic worked. Obviously learning what new mechanics do should be at the forefront of keeping up with an ever evolving game. Yet something about spamming all your monsters onto the board and then doing it again turn after turn had left somewhat of a bad taste in my mouth. Keep in mind I'm well into probably well out of middle school entering high school I. lm 13 and this is deep. Yet after a small hiatus I decided to peek into what the meta has developed into oh boy did my friend give me a good time facing his pepe deck. I looked up videos on the meta and determined that not even a ban on the deck would be enough for me to hop back in. Only until lunalight (tiger jumpscare) and TOSS did I hop back in and now truly am immersed with the game and keep up at locals.
@maximiliankot6030
Жыл бұрын
I could not care about boomer Yu-Gi-Oh opinions after playing recently dueling book goat format. I mean on masterdual plenty people still playing hero's, blue eyes and dark magician. People still using old boss monsters and just old cards in general as staples... You know what they playing on dualing books?! The same deck like every match Sure not every match is going to be like sykunno versing his friends and fans.. you will find matches where it's just pure negate, banish, miling, your opponent probably playing during your turn and basically your opponent doing their best to not let you play. If you aren't having fun just play masterdual in bronze and silver, people just having a good time in those ranks fr or try and have fun learning a new meta archetype/or troll decks.
@Bill2bearockstar
Жыл бұрын
For me there are 2 things that ruin modern yugioh for me as a yugiboomer. 1. Archetypal decks = I want decks to be very diverse and consist of cards that mesh by their effects despite having no appearance relations. I want to come up with weird strategies that combine effects. Being able to predict an opponents deck based on seeing one card is just bad. 2. The pace of the game. For me Yugioh needs the back and forth spread out around turns. A game needs to be much longer than less than 5 turns. You need to be able to do (most) of your stuff in your turn and not have the opponent have multiple stuff to disrupt it. Or and this is what made me quit MasterDuel. Do a whole combo chain with his cards during my turn and locking me out of doing anything during MY TURN. I really really dislike that. 3. This one goes together with 2. You shouldn't be able to fill your whole board up because one combo goes into another combo, unless you need all the stars to align. It should be rare to pull of and not be consistent if possible. And a minor one: 4. XYZ summoning feels like it's to easy compared to Synchro and normal fusions. Especially Fusions can be super specific and be this super combo you manage to pull off. Fusions make sense lore wise because there are specific materials and synchro's make a little sense because you need specific levels and a tuner and non-tuners. I can get behind that. XYZ's however are very very generic and make no real sense and I don't like that. (Despite me using XYZ in MasterDuel all the time). I wish Yugioh would have just fleshed out the old cards and give them support, but not give them full archetype decks. If an archetype makes up like 1/3 of the deck that's fine I guess. My main issue is with the restrictions those archetypal cards tend to list.
@andrejv.2834
Жыл бұрын
But generic decks still exist, just about a year ago we had a 60 card pile which people then cut to 40-45 But tbf those egenric enablers, like halqdon or verte, aren't legal anymore, but even now you can usually combone multiple archetypes
@YukiFubuki.
Жыл бұрын
As the other guy there are generic pile decks running around and 1 was even a top meta contender for a bit too a while back, it went by a couple names until it eventually settled on either rose tenyi or b.a.s.e.d Besides, pile decks were anything but diverse; they all play mostly the same cards and engines that you could more or less predict most of the deck already from the start I’ll agree that giant boards of negates really shouldn’t be a thing but these decks generally aren’t all that competent, for 1 thing they don’t have much answers to floodgates that is already active and they lose hard to cards like DRNM and/or droplets because of how monster centric they are, the right hand trap can literally jsut stop them in their tracks too then in the event you break their board they generally don’t have much of a recovery either These types of deck is mostly seen in the lower ranks of the ladder on MD specifically because the lesser decks and players don’t or known how to counter them, it’s also just MD thing because of being BO1 rather then BO3 otherwise in the subsequent games the player can just side in cards that hard counters them xyz is suppose to be generic, fusion and synchros were harder to utilize without certain cards and aligning lvls, xyz is the counterweight being easy to summon and with powerful effects but limited usage and not much offensive prowers, like excluding crazy box who can’t even atk without relying on rng the highest base atk for a generic rank 4 is 2600 on gem knight pearl and that’s a vanilla, most rank 4 barely even breaks 2000 atk so without being generic or having good effects they wouldn’t even see any play
@unamusedrowlett6303
Жыл бұрын
I honestly do not get actman or anyone that bashes yugioh like this. Yes the games changed, yes shits complicated at times but find me a single game that hasn't had some form of change over the years. Magic the gathering, loads of 1 mana red cards are power crept cause a monkey gives you more card advantage. Monopoly has an infinite number of variations to make them more compelling than "the guy with a basic concept of capitalism and the best die luck wins", bloody Mario Bros evolved from fire flowers to possessing your enemies to get through levels, why is it so hard for Yugioh to change without backlash.
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