Niki said herself on her alt that her time in England was some of the darkest times of her life and thinking about it makes her physically start shaking. Poor thing. She was freshly 18.
@jacencade4019
3 ай бұрын
I actually remember that first one. At the time I thought she was just exadurating for content. I really didn't want the bruises thing to be true. Man has a problem. He needs to find the source of this behavior and correct it.
@AubergineManDSaFxFNaF
3 ай бұрын
Oh poor baby though-
@phibiefrog34
3 ай бұрын
:(
@aytch000
3 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for her… :(
@transfems4raytoro
3 ай бұрын
😨😨😨😨?!?
@EMMCNEELY
3 ай бұрын
first time that man has ever vacuumed apparently 💀💀
@lillollipop_
3 ай бұрын
💀💀💀 real
@ohnosir
3 ай бұрын
@@krowta2062 fr it's annoying 💀
@leiadaaamon11
3 ай бұрын
@@ohnosirfrl 💀
@hyper_grace
3 ай бұрын
BAHAHHA THIS IS THE ONE LADIES AND GENTS
@VerifiedDirectioner.
3 ай бұрын
@@krowta2062litro it’s so annoying 💀💀
@Dsmp-Edits.
3 ай бұрын
WELL THAT AGED BADLY
@OpalBelladonna
3 ай бұрын
Oh hi I love watching your content 😂
@blah_lejandro
3 ай бұрын
REAL
@Dsmp-Edits.
3 ай бұрын
@@OpalBelladonna Thank you❤❤
@Catburr
3 ай бұрын
So original
@logangonzalez5321
3 ай бұрын
💀
@nickisanerd
3 ай бұрын
"He keeps biting me." Well that aged like some abusive wine
@vidishanarnaware4963
3 ай бұрын
Abusive milk
@MxSae
3 ай бұрын
More like milk
@zpanazura
3 ай бұрын
I think in one of the vlogs on Tommy's channel will kept biting the camera "as a bit" and, i might be misremembering, but i think tommy at some point said "stop biting me" i am... Im at a loss of words
@nickisanerd
3 ай бұрын
wow..🙂@@zpanazura
@vampire-p
3 ай бұрын
Aged like cherry wine you could say… (I hope someone gets the reference)
@Crazydragon71
3 ай бұрын
“Your new boyfriend” sounds creepy now…
@Pato-vp9gr
3 ай бұрын
That was always creepy
@piero8927
3 ай бұрын
Many of his song kinda do
@lillollipop_
3 ай бұрын
I always thought his lyrics to his songs were just sorta strange.. in reality he was talking about himself.
@itsmeberry1908
3 ай бұрын
@@lillollipop_no, actually in that album he is plays as a character , thats not actually him
@lillollipop_
3 ай бұрын
@@itsmeberry1908 oh alr thanks for the info!
@James_pookieott
3 ай бұрын
My heart fucking melted for niki, Shelby and every single victim. They didn’t deserve this
@bubble_mcyt
3 ай бұрын
Why more for Shelby?
@YourFavoriteMoonLightQueen
3 ай бұрын
Niki got shipped with Wilbur more why Shelby
@Blackandblueapples
3 ай бұрын
@@bubble_mcytbecause Shelby was the one dating Wilbur, which means that Shelby likely got most of the abuse
@danielmcluckie9596
3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why you would say MORE for Shelby (unless you haven’t seen Niki’s statement) when they both spoke out about his abuse. The top comment on this video explains her statement too. Also there are more and more people speaking out about his abuse. He’s definitely a serial domestic abuser at this point.
@James_pookieott
3 ай бұрын
@@danielmcluckie9596 holy fuck I haven’t seen Nikki’s statement. I take it back
@Ssshonic
3 ай бұрын
How the fuck did we not notice this sooner like have you ever listened to the lyrics in his song “abused those I love while I ostracized the ones who love me back”
@Rohannn0007
3 ай бұрын
What do u mean bro he was supposed to be playing a character or as we thought he was Edit: fucking hell
@Ssshonic
3 ай бұрын
@@Rohannn0007 no those lyrics are from “your sister was right” which is from “your city gave me asthma” his normal album.
@locallucifer6505
3 ай бұрын
Oh also in maybe I was boring! Practically the whole song. "He never had cool stories He doesn't make your heart beat Used to love his mystery But now he's just exhausting Another day spent just laying in his room The stench of incense And some undelivered food And she thought "What if he thinks I'm the one? And I'll be forced to rot away With him and his obsessions, with trivial things Like the amount of f-cking love hearts I finish a text message with" And when you hold his hands It doesn't feel like flying And when you take his breath away He might as well be dying And you're dying to breathe You're trapped in his cage And it's shrinking And she thought "What if he just never leaves? Or if he doesn't get the message? And he doesn't hear my please?" So she just started screaming"
@ChayanneMinecraft-fl4kc
3 ай бұрын
I feel so so stupid
@flarie7853
3 ай бұрын
Eulogy is SO different now
@phoenixflame3129
3 ай бұрын
Between these and the quote book idk how we didn't notice😭
@flamelikesminecraft718
3 ай бұрын
What’s in the quote book??
@CJ-sp6lh
3 ай бұрын
What were the bits in the quote book?
@phoenixflame3129
3 ай бұрын
@flamelikesminecraft718 so like in Tommy's parts he said wilbur uses his music to manipulate people which sounds like a joke but everything now it's like...
@alpinesgenesis
3 ай бұрын
AND Shubble tweeting on her priv "I'm in a bad situation sorry I haven't been streaming as much"
@holyheckinheckohheck
3 ай бұрын
This made me look at the Google preview for the quotebook (I don't have a copy) and Wilbur's brain written by Tommy has one part that says "I will never harm anyone or anything" 😬
@milkymoo1525
3 ай бұрын
He clearly takes pleasure in the power dynamic, knowing that if he brings it up first, non challantly, that everyone will think whatever nikki says is a bit. Add the hoovering, basically communicating to her that he knows hes horrible to her and deliberately wont listen, and its a clear power play...
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
I can see why you would believe that, but I don’t think that’s what he was doing.
@milkymoo1525
3 ай бұрын
@@Duny4-ni6gu I agree that it’s super nitpicky, but a lot of times abusers do things that clearly illustrate how they feel without even noticing it themselves. I don’t think he was consciously doing what I said, but I do think subconsciously his actions were speaking for him if that makes sense.
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
@@milkymoo1525 Ahhhh… ok
@coinbowl
3 ай бұрын
"yep"
@jaffa3717
3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not that deep lol
@felony97
3 ай бұрын
The way she says "he keeps biting me" immediately, i hope she didn't go through the same Shelby did and if she did, i hope she's in a better mental state today. Hurting your loved ones is not love.
@BrookeKatherine.
2 ай бұрын
She obviously did. She mentions having bruises all over from him biting her.
@destinyjustdied
3 ай бұрын
This aged horribly
@jaysha8553
2 ай бұрын
It never aged horribly it was just horrible from the jump but not many people caught on.
@Luu.cave-__-
3 ай бұрын
This just proves shubles point. Edit: Holy shit how did i get that many likes 😭😭
@tshirt101
3 ай бұрын
Posg pfp?
@Luu.cave-__-
3 ай бұрын
@@tshirt101 Huh
@tshirt101
3 ай бұрын
@@Luu.cave-__- u just changed it
@Luu.cave-__-
3 ай бұрын
@@tshirt101i changed it because i don't support lovejoy or wilbur anymore, ty for reminding me
@Mimi-bl2qj
3 ай бұрын
to be honest i play bight my friends...
@ZiggyMarley917_
3 ай бұрын
We got so many clues- how did we not realize sooner..
@Marshie_Gum
3 ай бұрын
Probably cause we thought he was playing a character or joke. People loved him and we didn't see any signs cause we weren't looking for them.
@lillollipop_
3 ай бұрын
@@Marshie_Gumso true he's actually really good at hiding his true intentions that why we never caught on. Honestly terrifying
@ZiggyMarley917_
3 ай бұрын
@@Marshie_Gum very true, it’s just sad seeing these clips now knowing the type of person he is
@abillionzebras
3 ай бұрын
“are you alright?” ARE YOU ALRIGHT NO IM NOTTTT ughhh my 5th grade self is crying
@Marshie_Gum
3 ай бұрын
I've had people like this in my life and they can be so fucking terrifying
@linaland
2 ай бұрын
I can’t stop thinking about the fact that they stopped talking and being friendly to each other in front of a camera or in public. They said it was because it felt uncomfortable being “shipped” together but now I’m realizing there’s actually more to it…
@kamakshisingh6049
15 күн бұрын
shitttt i never connected those two
@Walter____White
Ай бұрын
"Don't worry, the dog doesn't bite," The dog:
@TempestIsTrying
3 ай бұрын
To everyone wishing they realized he was a bad person sooner...please don't blame yourself! We're all in the same boat- I promise it isn't your fault. ❤❤❤
@nottzo
3 ай бұрын
If people did feel guilty like… come on… stop making it about YOU. People act like wilbur hit his fans but he hurt his friends and they should stop taking it personally and support the people who were ACTUALLY affected by his actions
@mewzie_
3 ай бұрын
@@nottzoim pretty sure they mean that people wish they realized he was a bad person sooner so he could have been called out quickly and stuff instead of not realizing for ages which allowed it to continue, relax.
@itsmeberry1908
3 ай бұрын
@@nottzochill tf out, they are saying they wished they realised sooner so they stop supporting Wilbur and help her
@nottzo
3 ай бұрын
@@itsmeberry1908 na im actually so done w these parasocial relationships
@pey5571
3 ай бұрын
yeah, why are fans acting like they’re the ones being hurt here when in reality it was Wilbur’s friends/ex’s lmao. like i’m disappointed he’s been outed as an abuser since i liked him and i was a huge fan of his music, but it’s not going to keep me up at night or hurt me nearly as much as the people in his life
@cloudypuffpika9371
3 ай бұрын
Oh god he was even laughing
@bebitamira3054
3 ай бұрын
So was she.
@charlotteparville8123
3 ай бұрын
@@bebitamira3054 and? You think it was from the same reason?
@Ryan-ob7yt
3 ай бұрын
@@charlotteparville8123 yea? you think he just started eating her and she was fine with that? no niki prob said it was fine
@charlotteparville8123
3 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-ob7yt the whole thing is that she wasn't, that's why this whole clip poorly aged
@Scarlettt343
3 ай бұрын
@@bebitamira3054yeah probably out of fear
@rodrick.s
3 ай бұрын
This is so sad bad and disappointing :((
@Ch4rmss1s777
3 ай бұрын
I LEFT THE FANDOM LIKE 3 YEARS AGO, WHAT HAPPENED 😭😭😭
@PrinkleChan
3 ай бұрын
Gurl,stay out of it,thats the best thing you can do,you will never see someome the same again
@Ch4rmss1s777
3 ай бұрын
@@PrinkleChan Well damn 😭 js hoping quackity didn't do anything bad recently 🙏
@PrinkleChan
3 ай бұрын
@@Ch4rmss1s777 NOTHING happened with quackity(I AM GLAD) he has a smp and people really LOVE it(me too) its very wholesome BUT its not quackity don't worry
@Ch4rmss1s777
3 ай бұрын
@@PrinkleChan OMG THANK GOD 😭
@aespere
3 ай бұрын
Ok but actually I left the fandom a long time ago as well but what else did Wilbur do that makes him a bad person😭 biting till Nikki got bruises is horrible I js want to know what else he did
@finblaster
3 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for Wilbur’s cover of the toxic gossip traaaaaiiiinnnnn 😂
@lizzy-fk4zu
3 ай бұрын
he already did an "apology" and thats not fucking funny
@finblaster
3 ай бұрын
@@lizzy-fk4zu sorry if you felt offended, but I have to stress that I’m not trying to make light of the situation, I’m trying to cheer people up that might be struggling because they looked up to him, dark humour might not be your cup of tea, but the 104 people who liked my comment would say otherwise. Also, If your calling his shitty public service announcement an “apology” I think it’s you who’s not funny SUPPORT SHELBY
@platypusparasol9825
3 ай бұрын
it would go so hard ngl make a trashy indie rock version of it white boy its the least you can do when ur actual apology was ass
@finblaster
3 ай бұрын
@@platypusparasol9825HELL YEAH, WE NEED THIS LOL
@kidkillerchemostar1429
3 ай бұрын
@@lizzy-fk4zuit’s kinda funny
@its_myaa
3 ай бұрын
He sounds so proud of it..
@Al_X-2005
3 ай бұрын
I really hope he didn't do anything worse to her. I know they were just friends but still the fact he'd bite her to the point of bruises is concerning
@abbieuniverse8934
3 ай бұрын
I agree.
@qualitycomedy3049
2 ай бұрын
I am obviously on Shelby’s side and think what he has done is disgusting but my friend bites me that hard sometimes
@bibi7512
2 ай бұрын
@@qualitycomedy3049 your friend is abusive then. Joking has limits even between friends If your friend is seriously hurting u as a joke then there's something wrong with them
@nocturnaliance6684
2 ай бұрын
Everyone gets to set their own boundarys in their own relationships as long as they know when to stop and are willing to listen to each other it's up to them, stay out of other people's buisiness
@bibi7512
2 ай бұрын
@@nocturnaliance6684 abuse is abuse. Some people can't even tell they are being abused
@soda-mon
3 ай бұрын
Bro the fact that I truly believed everything he said was a joke is crazy I can’t imagine how hurt they would’ve been if I’m sad abt this. Yk sometimes u believe in a person till u just don’t
@AceiplierOFICIAL
Ай бұрын
The fact he was the victim makes yall look so wild. 😍❗️
@Lime.Fursuits
29 күн бұрын
Real!
@Theodosia_Lovejoys-version.
5 күн бұрын
Real ‼️‼️
@Ayuraaaa428
2 күн бұрын
How is HE the victim?
@nothingisdue
3 ай бұрын
“Your sister was right” Honestly now looking back at his songs I’m surprised how we didn’t catch on sooner
@ukulelegrandeurofficial
3 ай бұрын
i have a rule where i cannot take thing off my bucket list… even though most things are highly unreasonable, but after all of this i’m taking off my hope to meet him one day. i hope he comes out and genuinely apologizes because otherwise i will feel guilty listening to his music even though it’s soooo good
@ancdlll7466
3 ай бұрын
I have the same rule for MY bucket list... 💔
@nottzo
3 ай бұрын
I had such high hopes for lvjy. I was like “this band is gonna take the music industry by storm one day!” But. I guess all lead singers end up being assholes 👹
@snap.-_-
3 ай бұрын
Listen to his music through other sources. On KZitem, there's a lot of people who do lyric videos for his songs. It'll give them money instead of Wilbur
@ceilingfan1813
3 ай бұрын
Frankly I think it's better for all of us not to expect a genuine apology. Nothing anyone could say would truly make up for all of that awfulness. For him and others like him, it's best for us to not hold out for change and just find better people. I wasn't a huge fan, but I forgot about him for a few years and the reminder makes me want to find all his old music and I'm holding myself back because he doesn't deserve the support. If he cared more about fame than other people's health and happiness, then he would probably eventually make a better fake apology for more fame. So... I really hope we all do the right thing and boycott this guy. Edit: oh yeah I didn't see the comment about stealing his stuff, nevermind I guess. But still. Feels a little icky to listen to it anyway now.
@mychemicalimbalance_
3 ай бұрын
He literally has a song that says “abuse as I love” we should have seen it coming with Your Sister Was Right.
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
What does that mean? (Sorry if I come across as rude, I’m just genuinely curious)
@mychemicalimbalance_
3 ай бұрын
@@Duny4-ni6gu he’s saying in his song that he’s abusive and manipulative. Mostly. That’s how I take it
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
@@mychemicalimbalance_ Ohhh ok, thanks
@kharmagoodkarma5344
3 ай бұрын
The way he seems prowed of abuse. My heart goes to shelby and niki and all the girls. He's broken viewer's heart and loved ones
@EvanJGMegson
2 ай бұрын
proud*
@feelingsoupy
2 ай бұрын
"Tell them how awful I am to you" is a very loved phrase by abusers. It is WILD that we never saw this before Shelby came out about it.
@Einthebestboi
2 ай бұрын
“Sorry I can’t hear you over the Hoover!” That’s how I act when I’m guilty or avoiding something and my friends about to tell someone 😅
@sillyxoxo
2 ай бұрын
its the fact he KNOWS what hes doing by “tell them how horrible i am to you” LIKE??? 😦
@gotfries6828
Ай бұрын
the way he started vacuuming to distract her (and the viewers)
@reedsminecraft
3 ай бұрын
How didn’t we see this before, this shows that he doesn’t realize how bad he was
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
I think he does know, he just, for whatever reason, can’t stop
@reedsminecraft
3 ай бұрын
@@Duny4-ni6gu that’s also a mental thing, almost like an addiction. It makes him feel good when nothing else could so he dose more and more and ends up hurting someone.
@Duny4-ni6gu
3 ай бұрын
@@reedsminecraft maybe… I just hope he gets therapy…
@meowmeow0510
2 ай бұрын
“this shows that he doesnt realize how bad he was” Dawg he literally says in this clip ‘tell them how bad i am to you’ and if you’ve listened to any of his songs a lot of them go into his obsessive and oftentimes abusive nature and plays it off as being a character. He absolutely knows how horrible he is.
@reedsminecraft
2 ай бұрын
@@meowmeow0510 yea, I did see that stuff. Low key I didn’t pay any attention
@clove5753
3 ай бұрын
Both niki and Shelby didn't deserve this. To be honest I really didn't think Will would do stuff like this but the fact that he does makes me so sad for niki and Shelby :(
@nataleexx_
3 ай бұрын
He doesn't even seem like the guy to do that kind of scary
@smorespg3d312
2 ай бұрын
it’s probably his way of showing affection and dominance… his mom said he does it to her which is prob why he think it’s ok 😅 but the man has a serious biting urge to not only his gfs but guy friends too?! that is so peculiar and bizarre.
@pvic6959
2 ай бұрын
@@smorespg3d312 i mean love bites are a thing. but those are gentle. my mom used to do it to me as a sign of affection. HOWEVER it NEVER left a mark and it never hurt. the fact he bites until they bruise is weird
@kayden1333
3 ай бұрын
Seeing it now makes it sound like a cry for help :(
@theotherhorse9233
3 ай бұрын
there were so many signs... how did the miss them? your sister was right, tommys vlog, the quote book, nikis stream and so many more things.... im so sorry to any of his victims or any victims in general, remember that you are not alone
@An-kp4lw
3 ай бұрын
"tommy's vlog" is so broad. Which one of them??
@justdre4m1ng.66
3 ай бұрын
@@An-kp4lwmultiple, i remember one where he bit tommy on camera. i think it was the disneyland vlog?
@ansianeedsgrass
3 ай бұрын
He really convinced us he was just a lil quirky, nothing more😭😭
@future.dead.person-finn
Ай бұрын
this isn’t “poorly aged, haha!!!” this is lroof that wilbur DID bite and hurt his friends
@Lenni_fr
5 күн бұрын
Errrnnn 🤓☝Technically he didn't hurt his friends but only Niki 🤓🤓
@future.dead.person-finn
5 күн бұрын
@@Lenni_fr there’s footage of him biting james. look it up, do research before you “correct” me. he was also SUPER aggressive with tommy in the vlogs, again, do your research
@SanguisDeorum
3 ай бұрын
This Aged Like A Fine Wine Made Of Bitten And Bruised Grapes
@Annabelle_2048
3 ай бұрын
He also bit James Marriott at one point- dont remember when tho
@natsueyama
3 ай бұрын
I've always wondered why most of his songs sound a little weird but, now i know it's just him victimizing himself for the actions he's done and making it seem like hes a "struggling terrible person with mental health issues." shame really, my favorite song was literally 'Since I Saw Vienna' but now that I look back at it's lyrics,,,,,,,
@slaughtrrbeach
3 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! And your sister was right is such a.. red flags
@pvic6959
2 ай бұрын
@@slaughtrrbeach who is this sister i keep seeing in the comments lmao
@slaughtrrbeach
2 ай бұрын
@@pvic6959 it's a song
@noashaham5438
2 ай бұрын
I’m curious, what is it about the lyrics of “since I saw Vienna”? Asking bc it’s not as obvious as ur sister was right and it’s my favorite song as well :(
@natsueyama
2 ай бұрын
@@noashaham5438Honestly the main problem I saw in Since I saw Vienna was the whole theme his songs seem to have and makes it sound like "ooh. I'm sad, I'm a bad person, and i regret everything i have ever done. I'm a tragic personnn" And Since I saw Vienna is about him traveling and being with someone but still being lonely blablabla. there's just a pattern in his songs where he just likes telling people that he's a bad guy *(which he is)* and that he has done things he has regret and is trying to improve on them *(he hasn't)* which is conveniently what he's been saying??? in his ""apology""
@jonathangaming7510
Ай бұрын
Ironic how he's vacuuming for a bit since he apparently doesn't clean anything himself
@noxinabox38
2 ай бұрын
shelby said that he would flex it like that to people i think thats what he was doing with chat
@chillinghamster7188
3 ай бұрын
This is just so sad. All that and i still didn't realize. I just hope everyone he's hurt is going to be alright. This man helped me through depression... I am just so disappointed
@XENO_MATCH
2 ай бұрын
The bite of 87 got realistic💀
@Zyesghost
3 ай бұрын
Mans a fking vampire 😃 crazy...that aged well.
@Amella_gay_edition
3 ай бұрын
THIS AGED BADLY
@Matty27
2 ай бұрын
The only reason he was hoovering is to stop her talking about it. He knew if people found out that it was an actual abusive problem, he’d be fucked
@arnaldocosta-uh4um
Ай бұрын
Not that deep bro. It was just a joke
@Snad_witchz
3 ай бұрын
the fact that so many once wilbur fans are looking back at these old videos and we now realize just how many signs there really were and we never noticed until now is kinda sad. Its not our fault we didn't notice but once you know what happened and you watch these old videos, they are so much clearer.
@nininyoko13
2 ай бұрын
well, that just teaches us that when a person says they're bad - they're probably quite bad.
@nininyoko13
2 ай бұрын
it makes sense as a tactic, if you can't hide your bad tendencies, you cover up by making them so obvious that they turn into the opposite.
@Fnakms
27 күн бұрын
I was a bad girl..I did some bad things😼
@Not_marisol
3 ай бұрын
This makes me so disappointed in Wilbur. I just spent 700$ on lovejoy tickets last week and I’m thinking of it’s got going to see them live because of these Wilbur allegations. This makes me Not see Wilbur the same anymore. I have been a fan of Wilbur and Shelby since 2021 and I equally love both of them. But I have to defend shelby! Biting people can hurt them really bad!
@Not_marisol
3 ай бұрын
@@lauraleth2934yeah I watched half it’s very bad. I can’t even defend him..
@koi_eats_grass
3 ай бұрын
700$???? Can you get a refund in anyway
@sturniolofann_
3 ай бұрын
"allegations" ? It's literally confirmed even by him that it's real and he is real abuser...💀
@sturniolofann_
3 ай бұрын
And you equally love them? Are u dumb?? He literally abused her and hurt her and you are still gonna love him even if he hurt his ex girlfriend or his friends...how sad
@gabith_
3 ай бұрын
Bro I went to a lovejoy concert and now I just feel sick…
@milkycat2109
3 ай бұрын
Okay but Niki didn't seem too bothered about it and will laughs almost like he knows that it's a little strange/funny. But with Shelby it sounds like a whole nother person. I'm so glad he's getting therapy (at least what I've heard)
@Desolate_Schematics
3 ай бұрын
I think Niki took it as a joke and playful and ok with it so Will thought it was fine mean with Shubble there’s two very different sides of the story and I don’t know which one is correct. This is based off of what I have seen in this clip.
@aflower5768
3 ай бұрын
It's normal to laugh in such situations, it's a coping mechanism. In some instance, a person may be touched oddly and they'll just laugh it off, but that doesn't mean that person considers it funny/playful. Laughter ≠ safety. It's uncomfortable so the only way to deal with it is by turning it into a joke. It's difficult to find out that you're a victim, of any form, since it's new to you. No normal person would find being bitten normal, that's something insane
@EclipseRose-rg2pq
3 ай бұрын
Shelby mentioned that when he would do it in front of their friends that she would laugh along with him as a joke to make her friends think it was ok. It was in fact not ok and was hurting her.
@locallucifer6505
3 ай бұрын
She actually spoke out about it on her alt. She said that she was freshly 18 and didn't realize a lot of what was wrong with the situation. She even said that those times in England were some of her darkest moments. Clearly it wasn't as innocent.
@milkycat2109
3 ай бұрын
@@Desolate_Schematics this what i think (at least from what I've seen while looking into this deeper)
@sicklygator
2 ай бұрын
the way he just says “yep!” …. revolting.
@deadflypremium
3 ай бұрын
I bite people sometimes I don't fully bite down though, and I'm always super gentle If someone tells me to stop, even if to me it sounds like they're saying it jokingly, I'll stop, because I can't be sure. Consent is key, and it can always be revoked. When I'm with someone who I know is comfortable with me biting them, I don't ask first, but I always make sure they know I'll stop if they ask And if I'm with someone who may not be comfortable with it, I always ask first In a made up scenario, if someone mentioned that I overstepped a boundary or anything, I'll apologize and have a conversation with them where they tell me what happened, and I'll tell my end of the story so we can figure out what went wrong and how to prevent it in the future. That's how it should have gone.
@donnie1725
3 ай бұрын
Amen 👏👏
@ariiuchinara1746
2 ай бұрын
I'm a biter as well, it's something I do naturally and if it's with someone I'm comfortable with (and them in turn) I don't even realize half the time I'm biting. I don't bite hard most the time, but if I do hurt someone I freak out because I genuinely don't want to hurt them. It's an ingrained habit but I'm telling you now, you can be taught to control yourself. When I realize I'm biting I immediately apologize even if the other is fine with it, and ALWAYS communicate with a lover or loved ones if they're comfortable with it. Most aren't and, it's hard yes, but can be controlled if you actually care about their feelings. Wilbur obviously got off on the power dynamic and cared more about that than his partner's emotional and physical state.
@sharkaroonii
3 ай бұрын
First and last time he actually used a hoover.
@Milk_Tea_Boba_Bear
2 ай бұрын
#wilbursupportsquad
@spidybat7658
Ай бұрын
You are disgusting to think being an abuser is ok
@MarzThePlanet
2 ай бұрын
I’ve never watched Wilbur or Niki but even I knew about him biting her and think he was weird or being concerned for her. Weird how their biggest fans never questioned jt
@samsationeel
3 ай бұрын
Video shows the only time he cleaned
@estelatdl
2 ай бұрын
HELP
@justspersonalaccount6721
3 ай бұрын
As a survivor I am physically disguised by this whole situation. I did like Wilburs content including his music and I would have never imagined he was this bad. I am disgusted beyond belief to hear about what he is really like. I really hope all the survivors get the help and support they need.
@abisomorjai7564
2 ай бұрын
Enyone els notice how proud he sounded
@QuintessaLane-un4xb
3 ай бұрын
I used to have some of Wilbur’s songs in my playlists and now I had to take them out cause I listen to some of them and I imagine niki or Shelby and I just can’t.
@Camlling
2 ай бұрын
I always thought his music never made sense. Now it makes perfect sense
@kidkillerchemostar1429
3 ай бұрын
Crazy that he got away with doing this shit to her, shubble, AND Minx. Shits insane
@Hazbin_GDJ3ll0
3 ай бұрын
This is just simply not good for my mental health
@foxglove4814
3 ай бұрын
honestly might be better to take a break, don't force yourself to watch the siruation unfold if it isn't having a good effect on you
@louzo5175
3 ай бұрын
yep time to change the pfp (sademoji wich ido not have due to me being on pc)
@louzo5175
3 ай бұрын
true im also voting for u to take a break from this situation and distract yourself from it while you procces for at least couple days
@TheOtherOne7isBlueMaid
2 ай бұрын
when i heard shelby talking about the biting, this was the first thing I thought about
@_Sloob_
Ай бұрын
WILBUR IS INNOCENT There’s so much proof that he did nothing wrong, Shelby is known for lying and manipulating people Shelby also wears clothes that would show where she was “bitten” but there’s proof of Wilbur being the abused one instead No he did not “admit” to it, at least do research
@may.isineffable
Ай бұрын
and shelby posted (if you want proof go to my community posts) that she bruises really easy.
@taylorperry-zh8gj
Ай бұрын
he did admit to it on twitter he admitted to it in this video too wilbur isnt innocent he is an abuser
@ZeCroutonLord
Ай бұрын
that literally proves nothing, he admitted to it MULTIPLE TIMES. in this video, a tommy video, his statement. plus, how is she known for that?
@Lime.Fursuits
29 күн бұрын
She had two other exes in the past and also accused them of the same thing she accused Wilbur of, of course those accusations against her two other exes in the past were already brought to light and proven as lies tho. She has a history of lying about abus3 soo- @@ZeCroutonLord
@Lime.Fursuits
29 күн бұрын
@@ZeCroutonLordshe also deleted every single stream and tweet talking about how her two other exes "hurt" her a few years ago because people found out she was lying.
@Absolute_Cyn
3 ай бұрын
That aged poorly
@tallulahxsa
2 ай бұрын
PROOF THAT THE SHELBY THING IS REAL
@Jealousy_Jealousy
2 ай бұрын
He literally admitted it with the worst apology ever on Twitter/X. Also, Dream responded to his post, absolutely destroying him
@Matty27
2 ай бұрын
@@Jealousy_Jealousydream has nothing to do with it, he just got himself involved for no reason. Just because dream has subscribers doesn’t mean everything he says is true
@ThomasWooods
2 ай бұрын
I missed what he did but all I can say is its not all that bad or weird to bite. From Nikis response here I can only assume this was clearly playful biting, otherwise she wouldnt be addressing it live on stream while Will is in the room with her like that. Dont correlate things that arent connected.
@c.b.8192
3 ай бұрын
Man, the evidence is stacking up against Wilbur, poor Shelby and Niki 😢
@emma_nutella58
2 ай бұрын
Bro took inspo from the bite of ‘87
@Itadoriisabrat
2 ай бұрын
Bro’s bouta pull the ukulele with this one💯🔥🗣🗣
@rianeishere
3 ай бұрын
i didnt wanna know this, he was my idol. why did i have to know this, why now?
@Charadediana
3 ай бұрын
Better late than never.
@donnie1725
3 ай бұрын
Take the qualities you love and leave the ones you hate, fam. People are multi-faceted. And it sucks they were attached to such a person. But that doesn't make the qualities you thought were good or were inspired by any worse. Just try to surround yourself with the type of people that inhibit these qualities you like, without having any of the horrible ones. I'm certain they are out there (maybe even inspired by the same person at first). You've got this ❤
@rianeishere
3 ай бұрын
@@donnie1725 it was so unexpected :(
@CharlotteHewett-vk7gy
3 ай бұрын
I really want to defend him but I just can't 😭
@SomonSally-he5qz
3 ай бұрын
Yeah same. I just wish He is innocent but he dosent look innocent. I wont pick any sides I just hope shubles okay
@CharlotteHewett-vk7gy
3 ай бұрын
@@SomonSally-he5qz same
@Rohannn0007
3 ай бұрын
Same guys, i looked up to him so much but this is just sad
@omoxii
3 ай бұрын
@@SomonSally-he5qz “wont pick any sides”??? Always side with the victim. You don’t even know him apart from what you see of him online. He abused someone, there is absolutely no need for you to side with him. There isn’t any defence for his behaviour. If his friends he has had for years aren’t defending him and standing with her on this. you should be too. Don’t ignore the abuse and manipulation he’s done to others because you like his music or watch him play games.
@CharlotteHewett-vk7gy
3 ай бұрын
@@Rohannn0007 same, Im actually so shocked
@JBStudius
2 ай бұрын
Its not the biting in it of itself that is a problem, its the fact that he keeps going after being told to stop, and weaponizes it by saying that "it is who he is", essentially guilting his victim into thinking they are wrong for wanting him to stop.
@ssssssgrjibhnmfdxj
3 ай бұрын
"Abuse those i love while i ostracize the ones that love me" Those lyrics are haunting after hearing the news...
@NewtmasGivesMeJoy
3 ай бұрын
The fact that she was freshly 18 is just creepy
@aaronboxer7344
2 ай бұрын
There’s two sides to every story and Wilbur did say he had proof from dms that they said it was fine and encouraged it so i refuse to take a side
@oda6721
2 ай бұрын
It would have been fine if it was just one victim but there are so many girls who said that same thing
@no-ks2cl
3 ай бұрын
this is so heartbreaking because i remember finding wilburs love or host in 2021 and i was obsessed with how sweet they both were. 3 years later around the same time i try to reminisce on that but now hes outed as an abuser and the sweetness between will and niki that i thought was real wasnt so real after all :( anyway prayers to shelby, niki and all others that were abused by him.
@faded_lilac5647
2 ай бұрын
All of his music is just more evidence against him it’s unsettling to listen to now
@qwaver408
3 ай бұрын
Also when he kept throwing apples/lemons at techno AFTER HE HAD HIS DAMN SURGERY WHEN HE HAD CANCER!!!
@Aceusedtobehere
3 ай бұрын
WHEN WAS THIS?!
@qwaver408
3 ай бұрын
@@Aceusedtobehere He said on stream when he went to technos house, he said he 'felt bad' THEN CONTINUED TO LAUGH AND SAID 'its kind of funny tho, and he kind of deserved it" All Technoblade did was say 'you suck at throwing' .
@Aceusedtobehere
3 ай бұрын
@@qwaver408 NO WONDER WHEN THE STREAM AFTER TECHNO DIED HE WASNT LIKE UNEASY OR ANYTHING HE WAS JUS UNEFFECTED! he is so sick. It disgusts me.
@qwaver408
3 ай бұрын
@@Aceusedtobehere Real, I'm absolutely disgusted, hes one of the people who really helped me, And he does THIS and the worst part is he's been manipulating all his 'friends'..billzo said he apparently made a joke about Wilbur and he kept kicking him. And he also stomped on Tommy's hand in the Disney vlog..
@Aceusedtobehere
3 ай бұрын
@@qwaver408 ...damn. didn't know he was that bad. Welp, that gives me more reasons to hate him now!
@Isabellegunning
3 ай бұрын
I did always think the biting was rly wierd ngl 😬
@Ich_mag_frechen
3 ай бұрын
biting is a very common form of affection and desplay of love that alot of people have.it does seem odd at first but it's important to remember that different people have different love languages and display affection differently.also while there is a lot of similarities between what we know about the abuser and wilbur, theres not any description of the abuser or a huge amount of evidence saying he's guilty.people should be innocent until proven guilty.
@Isabellegunning
3 ай бұрын
@@Ich_mag_frechen yes I really hope he is not the abuser coz I genuinely liked him 😢
@Ich_mag_frechen
3 ай бұрын
@@Isabellegunning I do hope you now understand how the biting isn’t weird and shouldn’t be thought of as bad
@Isabellegunning
3 ай бұрын
@@Ich_mag_frechen yes xx it’s just coz him & Niki were never in a relationship 🤍
@_NicoYT_
3 ай бұрын
@@Ich_mag_frechenwilbur confirmed it
@cccccc6667
2 ай бұрын
Freshly 18 Wilbur bite
@PandaCatapult
2 ай бұрын
THAT AGED SO BADLY #Supportshelby
@-Eclipse-_-
2 ай бұрын
Guys stop i know what he did was fucked up but it doesn't give anyone the right to tell him to kill himself because shubble and her fans have convinced 3 and i mean 3 other people to commit suicide and i saw Wilbur in the last video with tommyinnit he was super skinny and like and un normal pale while being anxious and nervous stop it its NO ONES JOB TO DO THAT even if he did do something that bad and how would you feel if actually did it stop making a very serious situation into some fucking joke stop it (I wrote this while crying sorry if i came off a tad bit aggressive)
@oagardo
2 ай бұрын
It's messed up how even his friends turned against him in an instant.
@-Eclipse-_-
2 ай бұрын
@@oagardo I'm especially upset at punz response to Wilbur
@burkey623
2 ай бұрын
Out of all the responses, I feel like Tubbo handled it the best.
@stan8479
Ай бұрын
Shubble didn't convince anyone. She explicitly told the people who did those things (supposedly on her behalf) to cut it out, because it made them no better. Criticise the rotten folk, but leave Shubble out of this. Merely speaking out doesn't make one at fault when the other party decides to off themselves - in many cases, that's a manipulation tactic people will use to shift the conversation away from them.
@Lenni_fr
Ай бұрын
I'm a will stan and I always be.
@horrorcrisp
28 күн бұрын
I'm an abuser stan* is what you meant to type!!
@Lenni_fr
28 күн бұрын
@@horrorcrisp if your so right. Show me visible proof. I need a video of the scars. You know the world is cruel and full of lies. She could be doing that for attention. I'm not hating but just theories
@horrorcrisp
28 күн бұрын
@@Lenni_fr "show me a video of the scars" you mean bruises?? Wilbur literally admitted to it, just accept that your "silly little comfort streamer" (as SO MANY wilbur stans call him) is a bad person. also, you're*
@Lenni_fr
28 күн бұрын
@@horrorcrisp no. You don't know him. You probably don't even know this world we live in. Bdw I have my own mind. They could be lying. This could be true. Some even say that Shelby abused Wilbur and stuff I'm not saying I belive everything I hear. But you also should stop believing in social media Please understand that I have my theories and you have your own. Don't argue about this there is already enough drama about this online
@horrorcrisp
28 күн бұрын
@@Lenni_fr mf you don't know him either??😭😭defending a grown ass man is crazy, you do you though
@xianlieh
2 ай бұрын
" Jared, the guy who took you away from me. " o7 Jared, legend.
@Reverbarating
3 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for shubble and nikki:(
@official_earthling
3 ай бұрын
This is absolutely horrible. What Wilbur has done is NOT ok. Not only did this age horribly, but Wilbur should be indeed cancelled. If possible please pin this comment to make people aware. Here’s what’s happening Wilbur soot was recently (today’s date 2-28-24) accused of domestic violence by biting. Shubble (his ex) made a vod explaining exactly what happened and how she was feeling and being constantly manipulated by Wilbur. Wilbur then made an apology but instead of making it sincere and about her, he made it all about himself. Even with him trying to get help, he only did AFTER being constantly told to stop and he would continue to do horrible and cruel things to Shubble. No one deserves to go through this. This makes me and probably a lot of Wilbur soot fans sad, but I will NEVER and I mean NEVER support abuse.
@Silly_James
3 ай бұрын
It was totally consensual I’m not gonna go and defend violence that is wrong but wilbur doesn’t deserve to be fully cancelled he was mentally unwell he just needs some professional help he’s not a horrible person Niki was clearly alr with it so he couldn’t have been a problem
@tickk5448
3 ай бұрын
@@Silly_JamesExcept Niki said on Twitter that her time with him in England was one of the darkest periods of her life, and that she didn't see anything wrong with the things he was doing due to being young (freshly 18 at the time). Yes, he is mentally unwell, but people who are so mentally unwell they physically harm women and weaponise their safeword shouldn't have a platform.
@snap.-_-
3 ай бұрын
The tweet was probably vague so it can't be used in court. It sounds like it was written with a lawyers help
@Silly_James
3 ай бұрын
@@tickk5448 instead of arguing with other people’s opinions why don’t you go help Shelby because clearly you care so much about THEIR private matters that you go and harass Wilbur
@Silly_James
3 ай бұрын
@@snap.-_- key word PROBABLY someone didn’t do their research
@Summer-bh2ok
3 ай бұрын
#Shelbysupport 💜💜💜💜💜💜
@Karma_550-o
3 ай бұрын
This hurts to watch now
@Cupid2522
2 ай бұрын
Well well well..
@coral00672
3 ай бұрын
I want to refuse to believe all of this but I can’t bring it to myself… to think that he done all of this and not a single person said something about it until he was already slightly loosing lots of interest. Some thing has caught by attention, in Dream’s downfall he was accused for for something now Wilbur’s victims have spoke up after his slight downfall…
@novreetosdoritos
3 ай бұрын
That's because at the low points it's easier for people to believe and less chances of being attacked by fans
@williamafton3503
3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but I'm a little confused about what Wilbur is being accused of. Can you explain please?
@coral00672
3 ай бұрын
@@williamafton3503 abusing shubble when he was in a relationship with her , he has confirmed that he did do that.
@novreetosdoritos
3 ай бұрын
@@williamafton3503 he's not accused it was something he did. He abused shubble who was dating him at some point and there's been other people like Niki who were also bit by him what shubble said was that Wilbur had a habit of biting to show his affection and his mom also says it's true and in this clip it seems as Niki is alright with it but shubble wasn't and they had a safeword bu Wilbur didn't listen
@slaughtrrbeach
3 ай бұрын
????? What are you even saying
@Solangelo_shipper
2 ай бұрын
there's no proof that shelby was abused and Wilbur has bruises not shelby
@spidybat7658
Ай бұрын
Wilbur admitted it. This clip is proof
@_Sloob_
Ай бұрын
@@spidybat7658 no he didn’t, he gave his view on it but he never admitted to something that didn’t happen
@bugs1nthewa11s99
2 ай бұрын
wished people cared as much when it happens to someone who isn't a celebrity.
@S1r_Solo
2 ай бұрын
As Nibbler Soot, the god of biting, unleashed his domain “Domestic Yums” His girlfriend shrunk back in fear and un leashed her domain “Allegations..” Nibler Soot, if your girlfriend made a video about you commiting abuse would you change the situation into a mental illness? Nah I’d nibble
@redisokay
3 ай бұрын
HUH WAHT I NEED INFO WHATS HAPPENED???? DONT TELL ME WILBURS BEING CANCELLED ISTGGGG- PLEASE TELL ME HELP-
@starielyt
3 ай бұрын
Not just cancelled hes an abuser, im not gonna go into details bc it makes me uncomfy but if you wanna know what happened you should watch Shubbles vod, he confessed shes telling the truth in a statement
@redisokay
3 ай бұрын
@@starielyt I've done research and onll......
@AceBeamedYou
3 ай бұрын
@@starielytkyself
@RiptideST
2 ай бұрын
Holy go outside
@muffins2318
2 ай бұрын
Okay, but look a little closer. Wilbur is trying to change and fix himself, while the victims are encouraging the death threats towards Wilbur.
@Korok_with_a_bag
2 ай бұрын
He also says 'How awful I am to you.' So I agree with you.
@spidybat7658
Ай бұрын
@@Korok_with_a_bagthis is what Shelvy said tho, he is proud of it. He is proud of the abuse
@spidybat7658
Ай бұрын
Shelby and Niki never encouraged the death threats. Shelby never said his name. He was the one that outed himself. He is not trying to change he is proud in this clip of the abuse. Do not defend this guy
@Korok_with_a_bag
Ай бұрын
@@spidybat7658 yes but I have my own evidence of images that I found, making me support will, these pictures have him with bruises and very pale, his eyebrows also dipped as if he were crying beforehand.
@spidybat7658
Ай бұрын
@@Korok_with_a_bag and? Maybe he got in a fight? Where did you find these pictures. I don't think Shelby would lie when others have come forth and this clip is there confirming he did bite people.
@sdrxke
2 ай бұрын
I hate this- poor Shelby, poor Nikki, poor Alice man jeezus I wanna erase him from my mind-
@1andOnlyBiTrombonist
3 ай бұрын
Well gonna listen to Alec Benjamin and deal with whatever is happening with my love life. I love Shelby and I love Wilbur’s music but I don’t support abusers. I don’t know everything that happened so I’m not gonna jump to conclusions and pick sides. I hope everyone gets well and gets the help they need.
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